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Republican Candidate On Trump, Epstein, Zelensky, Mossad, JFK &9/II · Chris Thrall's Bought the T-Shirt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello friends, I'm your host, Chris Thrall. I'm a former
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  Speaker 1: Ruleries commando. I've adventured for better and sometimes worse, across
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  Speaker 1: eighty countries on all seven continents. Welcome to the Port
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  Speaker 1: the t Shirt Podcast. John, howi you, sir?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing well? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm phenomenal. Thank you very much. You're a man
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  Speaker 1: of much experience. Looking at your biography.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting it old.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming to us all mate, But yes, where to start?
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  Speaker 1: So friends at home? John, like myself. He's a former
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  Speaker 1: marine cancer survivor, father, trial attorney. He's advocated for underrepresented communities,
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  Speaker 1: having come from a marginalized community himself. Twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: John Rant as a Republican candidate for the US Senate
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  Speaker 1: seat in Massachusetts. And I think that, John, the thing
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  Speaker 1: that tweaked my interest, alongside obviously our Marines connection, was
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  Speaker 1: the mesothelioma. You'll represent representation of victims of that poisoning.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. You know asbestos a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: you know classic as a mineral found in the ground
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  Speaker 2: that's been here forever, but it really is poison, and
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  Speaker 2: it's poison to humans, and it's been poison for humans.
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  Speaker 2: You know, from the beginning of time. You could go
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  Speaker 2: back to the fourteen hundreds and slaves that were sold,
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  Speaker 2: they'd be sold at a discount if those slaves had
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  Speaker 2: woven asbestos blankets or asbestos clothing, because they knew that
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  Speaker 2: those slaves would live a less long life, so therefore
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  Speaker 2: they would be reduced in value. And so then you
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  Speaker 2: get into the nineteen twenties and companies knew that it
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  Speaker 2: was harmful to humans and still used it, incorporated it.
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  Speaker 2: And unfortunately, there is a disease called mesothelioma and it's
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  Speaker 2: only caused by asbestos. There is no other cause known
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  Speaker 2: in the world. And so if you have mesotheliomas because
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  Speaker 2: you were exposed to asbestos and it only, unfortunately can
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  Speaker 2: take a very deminimous amount of exposure. It could be
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  Speaker 2: one summer job as a laborer, you know, or you
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  Speaker 2: could live downwind from a manufacturing plant and get it
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  Speaker 2: because you're playing in your backyard as a youth. So
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  Speaker 2: pretty insidious product.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my mother died of it. She was a nurse.
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  Speaker 1: We had charing Cross Hospital in London got heavily bombed
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  Speaker 1: during the Second World War and of course, back then,
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  Speaker 1: the quick go to material was always asbestos, wasn't it
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  Speaker 1: same the same same with the twin twin towers. And
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  Speaker 1: she said, the nurses, you know, they're all junior nurses.
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  Speaker 1: They used to just hang the towels up to dry
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  Speaker 1: on these asbestos lag pipes, and they obviously knew nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And then years later you get this lung complaint and
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  Speaker 1: you go to your doctor and you not only get
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  Speaker 1: the bad news, but by that time, what you've you've
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  Speaker 1: maybe got a year to live.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they like, you know, mesathlielma, as you personally know, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: is incurable and the life expectancy is between twelve months
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  Speaker 2: and eighteen months. Can be less, can be a little more,
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  Speaker 2: but it effectively is it's such an insidious disease because
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  Speaker 2: from the last time you're exposed until you get diagnosed,
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  Speaker 2: the average length of time is thirty six years, and
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  Speaker 2: it lays dorman in your lungs or the lining of
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  Speaker 2: your lungs all those years, and then once it manifests,
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  Speaker 2: it's just too late. You know, there's really no cure
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  Speaker 2: for it, and so it's very unfortunate. Sorry hear about
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  Speaker 2: your mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, thank you. It was she was very brave.
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  Speaker 1: She was going on the radio news, you know, telling everyone,
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  Speaker 1: this is it. I can't do anything about it. And
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  Speaker 1: when they had to read the news on the radio
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  Speaker 1: that mum had died, the you know what do you
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  Speaker 1: call it, the presenter just broke down in tears. They
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  Speaker 1: had to take him off air. So, yeah, at least
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  Speaker 1: some good came out of it, John, Can you explain
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  Speaker 1: what came first, your law degree or your marine's time.
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  Speaker 2: It's a combination. Between my second and third year of
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  Speaker 2: law school, I decided I wanted to join, so I
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  Speaker 2: joined the Marine Corps and between second and third year,
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  Speaker 2: during that summer break, I went to Officer Canadas School
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  Speaker 2: for ten weeks, became commissioned as a second lieutenant in
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  Speaker 2: the Marines, went back, finished my third year of law school,
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  Speaker 2: and once I was admitted to practice law after I
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  Speaker 2: passed the bar, the Marine Corps brought me on active duty.
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  Speaker 2: I did another year of training and then I went
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  Speaker 2: and did a couple of tours of duty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, where did you see auction?
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  Speaker 2: I had not any combat action. My service pre dates
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  Speaker 2: ninety eleven. It was you my Arizona and Newport, Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 2: So I had a pretty good, pretty good gigs. I
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  Speaker 2: was teaching at Newport, Rhode Island Naval Justice School in
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  Speaker 2: the Naval War College, so I could I got to
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  Speaker 2: teach generals and admirals on certain rules of engagement, and
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  Speaker 2: the lawyers coming in. So I had a pretty cushy
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  Speaker 2: job in the Marine Corps, you know, the Marines. Even
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  Speaker 2: if you're a lawyer, you still have your rifleman first,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, right, So you still have to do
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  Speaker 2: all the infantry training. You still have to be able
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  Speaker 2: to hike twenty miles with sixty pounds on your back.
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  Speaker 2: You have to do all those things. You just happen
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  Speaker 2: to be a lawyer, but you're a rifleman first, as always.
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  Speaker 1: Dealing with the top brass. That's a that's a tougher
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  Speaker 1: gig than combat.
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  Speaker 2: Well it can be, there's no doubt they don't. They
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  Speaker 2: don't like being told what they can't do either.
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  Speaker 1: No, No, it's many a year since I said it was.
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  Speaker 1: It's a funny kind of you know ecosystem there. So John,
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  Speaker 1: tell me sorry, I just want to go back to
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  Speaker 1: the mesili mesophilioma thing, so over here. Once the kind
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  Speaker 1: of cat was out of the bag, you kind of
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  Speaker 1: got like a standard payout if you could prove. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know how hard it was to prove.
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  Speaker 1: You Basically, if you found somebody that had made a
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  Speaker 1: successful claim in court, you could kind of piggyback off
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  Speaker 1: the back of that and say, look, I work with
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  Speaker 1: that person, I'm dying too, and they couldn't really sort
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  Speaker 1: of argue with it.
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  Speaker 2: Was.
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  Speaker 1: Is that how it is in the US now?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a combination. There's active cases in the civil
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  Speaker 2: justice court system as well. But a lot of these companies,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, filed for bankruptcy and they took their
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  Speaker 2: insurance and other proceeds and they established trust and so
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  Speaker 2: there's multiple bankrupt trust and some jurisdictions and I'm not sure,
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  Speaker 2: uh you know yours, but it sounds like it may
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  Speaker 2: be more of a claims process in America. It's a combination.
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  Speaker 2: If you can prove a company still in business. You know,
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  Speaker 2: for example, General Electric, you know, made big turbans that
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  Speaker 2: you know for power plants across the country, or Westinghouse,
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  Speaker 2: they're still in business. So if you have that, or
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  Speaker 2: residential boilers or commercial boilers that were covered with the
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  Speaker 2: asbestos those old cast iron boilers. Those companies are still
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  Speaker 2: in business, and so it's a dual track. In America.
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  Speaker 2: You do a claims process, and you're right, it's pretty
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  Speaker 2: easy if you show that you have a mesothelioma, we
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  Speaker 2: know it was caused by asbestos, and if you can
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  Speaker 2: prove you know, exposure to their product, then they're going
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  Speaker 2: to pay you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha. And friends at home with John and I
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  Speaker 1: were kind of speeding through this a bit because John's
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  Speaker 1: on a schedule and there's obviously a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that I want to ask ask this gentlemen. Going back
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  Speaker 1: to the Marines thing, then what kind of crimes were
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  Speaker 1: going on? I mean, I served here in the rural Marines,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it wasn't it wasn't too far out
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  Speaker 1: the box to find Marines, you know, smuggling cocaine in
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  Speaker 1: from abroad and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know the military, Chris as you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: a microcosm of society, right, and so ninety percent of
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  Speaker 2: the Marines, I mean, you have drug use, you have
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  Speaker 2: domestic violence, you have assaults and batteries, murders. Ninety percent
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  Speaker 2: of the Marines are outstanding, but there's that ten percent
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  Speaker 2: that get in trouble. I was at neme Arizona, so
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  Speaker 2: right on the border, twelve miles away from the Mexican border.
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  Speaker 2: So marines could be hired as mules to transport you know,
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  Speaker 2: marijuana back then, cocaine, heroin. Today it would be fentno
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  Speaker 2: and other drugs. So there would be those charges and sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my first case was an attempted murder case.
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  Speaker 2: A marine was attacked by a couple other marines and
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  Speaker 2: he stabbed another marine, so they charged him with attempted murder.
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  Speaker 2: And I believed it was self defense, and I argue
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  Speaker 2: to the jury it was self defense. The jury agreed.
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  Speaker 2: And so the same kind of crimes in the civilian world,
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  Speaker 2: just maybe on a lower scale as far as volume.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, got you, got you. Okay, let's come on to
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  Speaker 1: a more sort of recent stuff. Do you have to
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  Speaker 1: be a Trump fan or can you say no, I
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  Speaker 1: don't like the guy.
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  Speaker 2: No, I ran for US Senate. I'm not. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a Trump guy, more of a moderate centrist Republican. I've
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  Speaker 2: been an independent all my life. That disappointed some people.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we live into such this divided world that
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  Speaker 2: these two sides seem like they want to tell you
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  Speaker 2: that you have to belong to this one side, and
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  Speaker 2: the other side doesn't love America. The other side, you know,
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  Speaker 2: is evil and you know, well, I'm one of these
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  Speaker 2: people that I can admit that. For example, Trump securing
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  Speaker 2: the border was a good thing. That's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have twelve million people coming in as a
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  Speaker 2: national security crisis. And we needed deregulation and we needed
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  Speaker 2: certain industries. But I've never been a big Trump fan myself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha, what do you think? Then I've got to
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  Speaker 1: ask you or my friends out there would be like, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't you ask this? The Epstein the list that
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  Speaker 1: everyone's talking about the other day. I think the President
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  Speaker 1: upset a lot of people because he said, oh, what
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  Speaker 1: are you still going on about that for when obviously,
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  Speaker 1: with its connection to Israelits and the Mossad, it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: much like the most major thing that he could have
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  Speaker 1: been talking about. What's the kind of you know, people
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  Speaker 1: being told to play that down or people this.
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  Speaker 2: Is one of the areas you know. And actually confronted
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren when I ran for Senate on the Epstein
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  Speaker 2: stuff because she didn't ask JP Morgan, Chase's CEO she
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  Speaker 2: was questioning him, and she didn't ask any questions about Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: They financed Epstein. They actually settled for two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: ninety million to Epstein victims, and they had to pay
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  Speaker 2: seventy five to the US Virgin Islands. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: how come you couldn't You're in charge of the banks,
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  Speaker 2: and how do you not ask any questions? And so
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  Speaker 2: I'm someone who believes that we have to eliminate this
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  Speaker 2: two tier justice system where the wealthy and the power
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  Speaker 2: just seemed to play by different rules. And I think Trump,
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  Speaker 2: you misread this. He's been pretty good, obviously with his
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  Speaker 2: political instincts. Right, he's president again, so you have to
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  Speaker 2: give the man credit as far as his political instincts.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he misread the wrong, the room wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I was quick to say that I don't think the
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  Speaker 2: Epstein thing's going to go away, and it hasn't went away.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, now we've seen his deputy Attorney General
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  Speaker 2: interview Maxwell for two days in a row. She was
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  Speaker 2: moved to Texas. There's there's rumors out there that the
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  Speaker 2: FBI redacted Trump's name out of the files, and so
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  Speaker 2: I think we haven't heard the last of it. But
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  Speaker 2: but people want when you think about this, how come
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  Speaker 2: it was just Epstein and Maxwell? How we know that
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  Speaker 2: the man couldn't have carried this off by himself. We
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  Speaker 2: know that there are other people who participated, but they're
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  Speaker 2: not there. Listen when Elizabeth Warren, I when I confronted her,
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  Speaker 2: I said, listen, I know why you're not. Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 2: was involved, right, her donors were involved. High powerful people
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  Speaker 2: are involved. And I think there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: that just want justice and they want transparency and they're
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  Speaker 2: tired of this.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I just like long story short or
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  Speaker 1: cards on the table. I never voted, I thought from
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  Speaker 1: quite a young I mean, first of all, I was
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  Speaker 1: in the marine, so I was away for seven years.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a thing, you know, my apparently my dad
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  Speaker 1: could have gone and voted for me. And then and
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  Speaker 1: by the time I sort of got my head around
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  Speaker 1: the whole political thing, I just thought, hang on, why
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  Speaker 1: why would I vote for my own slavery? That kind
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  Speaker 1: of doesn't And you know, the president called it a swamp,
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  Speaker 1: but of course he's calling it from a swamp, from
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  Speaker 1: the swamp that he's in. And when you look at
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  Speaker 1: his history bailed out by the Rothschilds for his you know,
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  Speaker 1: casino business that he comes up a lot of doubt.
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  Speaker 1: I think in people's he's a very hard card to
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  Speaker 1: read because sometimes, like the other day he gave our
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  Speaker 1: Prime minister a bolakin on public television. Not that I
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  Speaker 1: watched public TV, but you know, apparently he did, and
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  Speaker 1: I saw the clip and he was like, oh, so
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  Speaker 1: you're letting in all these you know, illegal immigrants. You know,
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  Speaker 1: do you not kind of realize that's really a stupid
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  Speaker 1: thing to do. And of course our Prime ministers is
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  Speaker 1: totally controlled. He's been told you let in as many
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  Speaker 1: immigrants as you can. We need to destroy the sovereign
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  Speaker 1: nation of England, which has become this abomination that people
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  Speaker 1: call Great Britain. But you know, I'm an Englishman, so
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  Speaker 1: already my identity is being stolen by whatever we're going
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  Speaker 1: to call it, the cabal. And you know, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: comes up with these absolute classics, and then at other times,
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  Speaker 1: like with the Epstein thing, you you you kind of
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  Speaker 1: wonder and what about the tariff issue. I read somewhere
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  Speaker 1: today that that could drastically backfire, But it does seem
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  Speaker 1: like a bowl move can you explain it to the audience,
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  Speaker 1: what essentially what he's doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know he started off with when he
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  Speaker 2: first unilarily announced terriffs across the board to every country, Canada, Mexico, China,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, he was picking big numbers, fifty percent
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  Speaker 2: tear of some product. The stock market crashed. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people were like, he's going crazy, He's going to
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  Speaker 2: ruin the country, We're going to depression. Then he stopped it,
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  Speaker 2: started negotiating. Listen, strategic tariffs is something that I believe in.
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  Speaker 2: If China is stealing our intellectual property, or if the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese government is subsidizing a car manufacturer electric car manufacturer
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  Speaker 2: that makes it impossible for an American car manufacturer to compete,
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  Speaker 2: then yes, you use those ten But it hasn't turned
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  Speaker 2: out that bad because right now they have I think
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  Speaker 2: it's fifty billion, it's surplus. It's the first time they've
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  Speaker 2: had it. So my whole position is, we haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: if the tariffs are going to be bad news or
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  Speaker 2: good news. Right now, the administration is celebrating as though
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  Speaker 2: it's good news, but listen, tariffs are ultimately attacks on
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  Speaker 2: consumers at some point. So the question is you know,
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  Speaker 2: how much will the manufacturers assume the cost or push
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  Speaker 2: it down to the customer. And we have a real
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  Speaker 2: affordability issue in America for sure. And that's why you see,
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  Speaker 2: like the guy running for mayor in New York City
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  Speaker 2: who is a socialist and openly says he wants to
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  Speaker 2: control the means of production and there'll be city run
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  Speaker 2: grocery stores and all of that. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are turning to him because of that affordability issue. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. I think that so far the Trump tariff
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  Speaker 2: plan hasn't been terrible news, but I think it's still early.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, gotcha, gotcha? So you wanted to talk about NATO,
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  Speaker 1: So let's cover that so you don't feel you came
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  Speaker 1: on and didn't get to talk about what I've.
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  Speaker 2: Talked about anything you want to, Chris, Uh, NATO is
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  Speaker 2: an interest. You know, you said that Trump is a
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  Speaker 2: hard fellow to figure out. And you know, Trump said
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  Speaker 2: that he was going to think about getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: NATO like America. He talked about America with drawing from
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  Speaker 2: NATO because he was sick of America being the pocket
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  Speaker 2: book for NATO and that we were paying you know,
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  Speaker 2: a way dispportionate amount. And now you have countries like
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  Speaker 2: these Baltic state countries who are saying that they're going
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  Speaker 2: to pay five five percent of GDP when it's historically
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  Speaker 2: been two percent and they didn't even meet the two percent,
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  Speaker 2: but now they're going to pay five percent. And interesting,
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  Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, has reaffirmed that America's
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  Speaker 2: commitment to NATO. So it's almost this where Trump creates
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  Speaker 2: this chaos. Right, we're drawing to NATO. Everybody's going crazy.
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  Speaker 2: The critics are saying, how could you do your allies
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  Speaker 2: like that? And now you've got countries paying more, and
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  Speaker 2: he's committing to it more, you know, and now we're
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  Speaker 2: selling weapons to these countries that are paying American manufacturers,
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  Speaker 2: you know, military contractors the money. Trump's very transactional, so
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  Speaker 2: he's he it's almost like there's there is a method
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  Speaker 2: to this madness sometimes even though some of us can't
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  Speaker 2: see it. And so it's just interesting because now there's
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  Speaker 2: this reaffirmation of NATO, when just six months ago people
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  Speaker 2: want it rid of Trump because he was destroying our
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  Speaker 2: alliance with NATO.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's almost as though he goes ahead and
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  Speaker 1: says just what you would say if you were the president.
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  Speaker 1: But then he gets rained in and it's like, mister president,
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  Speaker 1: you know, remember.
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  Speaker 2: Two people think that way for sure, because it could
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  Speaker 2: be the Epstein thing. I mean, listen, Trump guaranteed he
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  Speaker 2: was going to get released all the JFK files the
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  Speaker 2: first time, and then he didn't, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, whether we call it the deep state or
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  Speaker 2: whether we call it the suits in the back where
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  Speaker 2: no one knows what's going on that's pulling the strings,
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  Speaker 2: it does seem that way because the swamp isn't getting drained.
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  Speaker 1: No. Well, if they were going to drain the swamp,
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  Speaker 1: they would have had an inquiry into nine to eleven
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  Speaker 1: by now, would they not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely. And you see also if you look at
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the fact that Nina who comes basically says he's sending
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a letter because he wants to nominate Trump for the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Nobel Peace Prize, and then immediately shortly thereafter the Epstein
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: stuffs off. There's just a lot of things that make
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: you make you scratch your head.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Nenya, who recommending you for the Peace Prize? That's like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a pedophile recommending you as a babysitter.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: It's pretty good.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's not a good look.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I may have to steal that one.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well the whole you know, I always think
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Israel's just a front company for the global mafia, and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it was set up by the Rothchilds. And it's good
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: to see now people who are no longer afraid of
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the anti Semitic gaslighting slur just coming out and saying
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it how it is. You know there's a genocide going
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: on over there, it's not. And I kind of think,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, this dark element have had it too good
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: for too long. In fact, I did a jff K
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: podcast couple of days ago and uh oh, what was
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I saying? You know what were we would discuss We
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: were discussing the connections there and totally forgot.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You forgot, I mean, you know, we were talking about Epstein.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: We still don't know how Epstein went from being a
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: high school math teacher to a billionaire with several jets,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: with an island, with the largest man apartment in Manhattan.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: No one's no one's figured that out, right, How How
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: how are you a teacher and then all of a
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: sudden you're a financier, billion multi billionaire, like there's a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of unanswered questions. The uh. When an
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: assistant the United States Attorney says, listen, I gave him
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: the sweetheart deal because I was told that he was untouchable.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I was told to back off. I was told that
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: he is part of intelligence. You know that is that Cia?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Is that Masad?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Like I think CIA and Mosada that's the same thing,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: is it not?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Some would argue so absolutely.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Well, cous her dad was Robert Maxwell, wasn't he? And
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Robert who who mysteriously went off the side of his
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: boat one night and that was the end of him.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: But I think he certainly had his finger in a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: few few pies.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, just just the whole thing. When
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: you see Cash Patel and Dan Bongino, Uh, before they're
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: in the administration, they're out there, they're pounding the table.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: There's no way this guy committed suicide. Uh, they're asked
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: demanding these questions. Cash Pattel says, the director of the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: FBI has the list. Then he becomes the director of
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the FBI and he's like, there's there's no list. Yeah.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I mean it's almost like, how did I get angry
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: for that? Don't treat me like a moron.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this that was what I was going to say
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: during this this JFK podcast. We I was just chatting
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: with my guests, and you know, I truly believe when
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: JFK said we're faced by a dark, monolithic conspiracy that
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: operates by covet, Covet means, you know, I think he
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was saying it as as it is, and probably, along
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: with a host of other policies, he pay for it
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: with his life.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: His brother called the director of the FBI and and
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: uh and asked, did the CIA kill my brother? You
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? That's that's the Attorney General of
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: the United States at the time, and the brother of
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: the president. His first thought was his own intelligence agency.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So John moving on to some of a bit more
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: well pleasant certainly for me. You know, we're of a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: certain age. We've both been through the mill a bit.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: You've come very close to death and you know, pulled
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: it back, and that is a life changing experience. And
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I've certainly been close to it through my shenanigans over
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the years and through addiction and whole host of other things.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to go anywhere near politics because I'd
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: rather sit in a field on my own with the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: son on my face, knowing this beautiful existence, that we've
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: got this one chance at in this set of molecules,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and then our energy will go back and you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: join the mothership, so to speak. Do you not worry
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: that this is kind of sapping your your energy or
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: your your sort of years on this planet being and this?
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And please don't think I'm not trying to be rude
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: if I am telling me to shut up, But I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: just like I just find the spiritual way.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Is it pays so many dividends for me to be
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: able to just switch that material nonsense of and remember,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like you know, just remember why we're here. And I
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: wondered if you'd had any sort of forays in that area.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, my oldest daughters I have twenty five,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: twenty three, and six year old daughters, and my oldest
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: daughters want me to just relax, you know, after my
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: life and have that sun rate. But you know, I
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: got into politics and decided to run only because when
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: you learn my story, I really am the embodiment of
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: this theory of the American dream that if you have
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: an opportunity and you work hard for it, and you
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: make sacrifices you can achieve, and I see it dying
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like our country is. I've never been this pessimistic about
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Erica and about the world, the wealth gap, There's so
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: many issues in this country, and it's almost like, as
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: corny as it sounds, before I check out of this world,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I want to be able to say, you know, if
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't win a race, I didn't win, but I
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: tried to try to make a difference on a grander scale, uh,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to try to improve the world that we live in.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: That really is it. I enjoy my life. I'm blessed.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: There have been some bad moments, addiction, cancer, poverty, violence,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: all those things, but I certainly appreciated the time we
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: have left. Because you're right, you get a different perspective,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: as corny as it sounds, when you when you when
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: you face your immortality, you realize what a fleeting moment
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: we really have and we we need to do our
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: best to not waste it.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, that would be a good point to finish.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: But do you have that five more minutes? Is that cool?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I think they're calling at ninth there's some radio that's
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: calling it nine thirty I believe. Let me double check, though,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: but I don't want to.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think your agent said nine thirty five, but I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: could be wrong.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: O get you're right, it's nine thirty five.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to cover the I want to
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: talk about the blockchain obviously linked to digital currency. That
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: the fear here in the kind of awareness community, the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: freedom community is the central banking. Digital currency combined with
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: digital ID will be the death knell for all of
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: us or the aor welly in future. We were warned
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: about when there's just a digital currency and you're you know,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: we've all got a credit score, and when every single
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: transaction on the planet is logged in a in a
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: ledger for life, that's quite frightening in respects. It means
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: that you know, if I I don't know, if I
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: want to buy some weed off a guy today, great,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But then when he gets arrested in ten years time
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and they trace the ledger back and it's like ah,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: and I get a knock at my door and next thing,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm getting hauled off to Guantana, Mobai or some such thing.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Can you just give us your thoughts on it, John,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: because I know you probably know way more than I
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: do well.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: One of the reasons I got in the race against
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Warren Elizabeth Warren because she favors going to a consumer based,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: federal reserve central bank digital currency where they can control it.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: So you're right or well spinning in his grave, where
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: they can control the money. If we ever get to
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: that state where you have a central bank digital currency
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: that is for even retail us, then they can turn
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: that money on and off. Oh, you made a donation
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to ABC. That's an extreme group. It doesn't work. Oh
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you've had too many sugary drinks. We're going to turn
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: it off for sugary drinks now. And they can literally
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: control your money, They control your finance, they control your life.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: And so I don't think, you know, I'm not someone
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: who favors getting rid of cash forever and that world.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: But there's going to be alternatives. There's privacy coins out
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: there on the blockchain as well. But I would fight
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: and die on that heel of any central bank digital
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: currency that is given to regular folks. If if if
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: one central bank wants to deal with another central bank
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: with some intra brank currency, that's one thing. But to
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: the rest of us out there where they can see
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: how you're spending your money where you're spending your money.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: And I'll fight that battle with my last breath because
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. That's that's that's some scary stuff.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: One last point, just going back to the NATO thing.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: So you've got this Zelensky character who was an actor
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: in sado masochistic erotic videos, brought to power by Colin Moyski,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: who's a you know, global mafia billionaire. By the looks
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of it, all the charges he's had against him. They're
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: imploying a right there, two Jewish guys imploying a right
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: wing battalion, and people want us to believe in NATO.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just chucking it out there. Something is going on
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in that equation. The billions they've had in weapons that
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: must have just been siphoned straight off onto the black market,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you know, or shared out amongst their dark club buddies. Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: any any thoughts.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of people that feel
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: that way. One of the reasons Trump won is because,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: you know, America is exhausted from the foreign wars and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: exhausted by the industrial military complex. I mean, listen, the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: major military contractors are owned by the black rocks and
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the vanguards of the world. And then they have a
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: contract to rebuild Ukraine, right trillions. So they make money
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: destroying it and then they make money rebuilding it. That's
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: a pretty good business model. It's immoral, it's you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: all those things, but from an economic standpoint, that's a
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: pretty damn good business model, don't you think. And so
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a lot of people feel that way. And you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: NATO itself was established. It's like social security, you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: we established some of these programs and structures from the thirties,
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you know, or the Code war after World War Two.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Doesn't necessarily mean that it's meant to stay like that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: for the rest of the existence, you know, And so
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: unfortunately these politicians get in and it becomes self service
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: instead of public service.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, John, you've been absolutely brilliant. I've totally enjoyed this chat.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I really want to thank you for your honesty, because
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I think now is our time. You know, we've fed
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: up with all the nonsense. We've fed up with you know,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: buildings falling out the sky, and it's time for everyone
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to speak their truth and create a better future for
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the kids that we brought into this world. So John,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I know you've got to go, so don't hang around
• 33:24
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• 33:27
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• 33:30
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