Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NBA Show | December 19, 2023 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:06Fall systems, going clear, the lifting, what is going on everybody?
- 0:39We're back talking some hoops. Four games I like, I don't know,
- 0:43six seven I like more a little more than I do last. But I
- 0:46think it's a pretty good four gamer. Injury news important injury news. We're
- 0:50waiting on as always. John moranz is back, the story of the sleigh
- 0:55talking my man Rio looking nice, the green, the green, the Yankees
- 0:58hats. I'm not ready for baseball back. Baseball is fine, IMLB,
- 1:03the FS, baseball in the streets every single day, but it is a
- 1:06grind. I love this time. You give me some NFL, give me
- 1:08some NBA. I was just going over there on this Tuesday afternoon. Real,
- 1:14Yeah, it's going good. Definitely agree with you. Fall winter is
- 1:17definitely the nut time for sports. You got football, basketball overlapping, weather's
- 1:23getting colder. You can just chill inside, have some hot drinks and watch
- 1:26sports all day. It's the best time of year for sure. But yeah,
- 1:30I think I like these little four game slates. Definitely a lot less
- 1:34work for me to do throughout the day in terms of the matchup stuff and
- 1:38getting be in discord answer questions all day. But pretty nice slates some pretty
- 1:45high totals, few blowout spots, but a couple guys returning from a guy
- 1:52returning from a big suspension, which we'll definitely talk about. Excited to talk
- 1:53about that one. But yeah, I think this is a pretty pretty solid
- 1:57slate, pretty fun one too. Yeah. Absolutely, we're gonna use our
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- 3:00basketball and shout out to go collect. They don't see him in here right
- 3:04now, but man, does that dude have a tank of a Drafters team
- 3:07in the three dollars sitting in second fifteen k right now. So good luck
- 3:10to you, go collect. I'm cheering you on. That is an absolute
- 3:14horror. Juice is in here, Runny is in here. JB's in here,
- 3:17King of Smack, kid lining and what's going on, a lot of
- 3:20familiar faces. Appreciate everyone hanging out. Yeah, as you see right there,
- 3:24the big one, John Morant is back ninety three hundred. Any broad
- 3:30Slate overviews are waiting on Zion, Chris Paul, Chris Tasporzingis, and I'm
- 3:35missing one other Q tag, Shade and sharp. Those are the four main
- 3:38Q tags we got again four games, and you can see looking at the
- 3:43start times thirty minutes later than usual. Six thirty that's where I'm at,
- 3:46So seven thirty pm Eastern, seven eastern, nine eastern and then nine Eastern
- 3:53any broad slate overviews besides the injury news, obviously we'll get the Zion to
- 3:58kick it off, but what are your thought on this four game or anything
- 4:00before we go game by game? No, I mean the the next game
- 4:04is gonna be a big talking point. I think that there's a lot of
- 4:08strategy questions revolving around the Spurs and how you want to build for that game.
- 4:14Obviously we'll get the Zion news early kind of lean to him being out,
- 4:19but you know, weird things can definitely happen. But yeah, I
- 4:24mean not necessarily necessarily a backload type of night, but I think the Porzingis
- 4:30news is semi big for the the just the way that the Slave is gonna
- 4:32shake out, it will definitely open up a few value pieces on the Boston
- 4:38side of things. And then yeah, I mean should and sharp young guy
- 4:43should probably be able to play through his injury. But yeah, if he's
- 4:46out, going to open up a ton of two three minutes for some guys
- 4:50on the Blazer side. But yeah, I mean, oh no, I
- 4:55think this is a pretty pretty fun slave with a lot of strategy questions that
- 4:58will definitely go through absolute let's start it off right here before we go game
- 5:01by game, because I saw you talking in discord about it, But answer
- 5:05this, how many minutes do you think Job plays in his first game back?
- 5:10Yeah, I mean, I think he should be pretty full. Go,
- 5:14I mean, it got to be somewhere between thirty two to thirty five
- 5:17minutes. I would assume just him making his return probably gonna be a little
- 5:21bit on the negative side of in terms of his cardiovascular endurance right now.
- 5:27But he's not returning from an injury. It's just a suspension, So I
- 5:30would assume that he's done a good job keeping himself in a basketball shape.
- 5:34So I think that he should be pretty full, And I mean he's gonna
- 5:38be needed pretty badly. This Memphis team has been just one of the I
- 5:42think they're dead last and offensive raiding this year. They've struggled just to have
- 5:46any sort of offensive game with you know, Desmond Baine and Jared Jackson Junior
- 5:50kind of leading the way. I think that just John Morant's going to bring
- 5:54a whole new type of element to this this team, and I think that,
- 6:00I mean, it's obviously a huge boost. We know how good John
- 6:01Marin is. We know that he likes to play up and pace. We
- 6:03know that he's he gets his team teammates involved, gets the better shots.
- 6:08I think that just the whole outlook of the Grizzlies is going to improve a
- 6:13ton with John Marin returning, and I would expect him to be be pretty
- 6:15full. Go thirty two to thirty five minutes is what I would expect from
- 6:18him tonight. Yeah, I think he steps into his normal alpha role.
- 6:21I mean, like you said, suspension the dude. I mean, he
- 6:25could be at the YMCA if you wanted, playing every single day, getting
- 6:28up and down the court. Obviously he's got some better, better competition,
- 6:31some money, he can play against anyone. But I bet you this dude's
- 6:33been in the gym hooping for this whole time. So yeah, talking about
- 6:36Russ, Yeah do you think so? I mean, it's not like he's
- 6:40really going to get too much ownership right now, but we'll go through as
- 6:43always and then yeah, Pop might get some run to night that geeks me.
- 6:46I was. I was happy because I was debating on going to the
- 6:49Bucks game today or Thursday, and I wanted to see Wemby. It didn't
- 6:54work for a friends, so we ended up selling for Thursday, and man,
- 6:57I'm very happy with Wemby ruled out. How about we go oh something
- 7:00we very rarely do, but how will we go that Spurs Bucks game first
- 7:03and then go Memphis Pelicans? Because this game is the story of the Slates
- 7:08thirty minutes after that Memphis Pelicans game. But I mean that, like we
- 7:12said, that is the story the other two games nine pm, nine pm.
- 7:15There is some injury news. I'm not yeah, I mean, I
- 7:17guess you can backload some teams or some spots, but this is the game
- 7:21that I need exposure to, and I'm gonna hope the Sharps, the porzingis
- 7:26other worlds do play. So let's start with Spurs Milwaukee. Then we'll go
- 7:30back and touch on Memphis and the Pelicans. So Spurs Bucks two forty nine
- 7:35total, sixteen and a half point favorites are the Bucks, man, I'm
- 7:39so happy I'm not going to it on the Bucks side, Crowder is out.
- 7:43On the Spurs side, Victor is out, so with when min Yama
- 7:46out, The Spurs are the story of the Slate. Looking right here at
- 7:49the solver, you can see absolutely popping for value. Let's go all of
- 7:54them so you can just see the top three players for the value at our
- 7:58projections over at chipin' is in this game, and then you go to some
- 8:03other value in this game as well. The cell, Middleton, Keldon Brook,
- 8:07A lot of very strong plays in this one. How I see ownership
- 8:11going. I think Jannis is to spend on the slate pretty easy to get
- 8:15with a lot of this Spurs value. Middleton I think is gonna be pretty
- 8:18popular fair price six six point four K playing a lot better as of late
- 8:22the Mamu Revenge game. Look at that man, Sandro mamas Feeley in price
- 8:28three K. I think he makes a lot work, helps people spend up
- 8:31for the Giannises of the world, Keldon Johnson, Trey Jones, Basel,
- 8:35Bobby port Is, Dame. I don't know if I said Zach Collins yet,
- 8:39Branham, Doug. I mean literally the whole Spurs team I think is
- 8:43in play because they just I mean without Victor. The usage is gonna go
- 8:46around, rebounding goes around. So how many Spurs is too many? Who's
- 8:50your favorites? Can you play Giannis and Dame together? Of course grading up
- 8:56pretty well. I don't know, talk about like a Brook like he's like
- 8:58the one guy projecting pretty well for US, but centers loaded on this late,
- 9:03mainly Zach Collins and Mamu. So can you get a little different there?
- 9:07How you attacking this game? Yeah, I mean the Spurs are going
- 9:11to be very shorthanded in terms of in terms of talent. I think that
- 9:15even if if Title showed up in a Spurs jersey, he might be able
- 9:18to get some run for this team. Just sit him at the end of
- 9:20the bench, give him some garbage run at the end of the game.
- 9:22Might be able to score more than some of these guys. I should make
- 9:24your call off. I'm only thirty minutes away. I'll bring my I'll buy
- 9:28some shoes, I'll show up at the Pfizer. Hey, we already know
- 9:31you got the jumper. You could probably get out there and put up a
- 9:33couple of points for this. I get squatted, I get squatted. EF
- 9:37you play or pick, they'd press me to death. But yeah, keep
- 9:39it going. But yeah, on these I'll start the Spurs side. So,
- 9:43yeah, like you said, really good value on a lot of these
- 9:45guys. Obviously, Zach Collin's going to be stepping right back into the starting
- 9:50role for this team, and I mean it's hard to hard to say that
- 9:54he's bad Shock. I think four point nine k's. He obviously was in
- 9:58like the mid six k's for most of the season when he was starting alongside
- 10:01Wemby. He's always been a solid fantasy point permitted producers. So I'm fine
- 10:05playing into Zach Collins Shock. And I'm not sure how viable or how high
- 10:11owned this this type of thing would be tonight. But I mean, if
- 10:16you just played Collins and Sandro in the same lineup, you just take your
- 10:20seven point nine K and hope that they're splitting the center minutes right down the
- 10:24middle, you get forty eight center minutes from from two guys, and you
- 10:28know you're pretty much paying eight K for for a center that's going to see
- 10:31the whole game. That's kind of an area that I think that I'm hoping
- 10:37that's that's low owned. But there, I mean, they've alakes not a
- 10:39ton of value. I think that it makes sense to to do that,
- 10:43But yeah, I mean that if that's gonna be the way a lot of
- 10:46people are gonna go, then you're gonna get literally no ownership on guys Like
- 10:52use of nurkids Jonas, Valentnis, Valentnis, DeAndre Ayden Brook Lopez, all
- 10:56guys who are in really good spots as well, and yeah, they'll they'll
- 11:01be low on. They all have huge value and that's just like a big,
- 11:05a big leverage point that you can make if you can, you can
- 11:07change the build and flip the build on its head and kind of pay up
- 11:11at center with one of Sandro and Zach Collins. I think that that'll be
- 11:16a very interesting way to play the slate. But yeah, I mean,
- 11:22initially when I was riding this game up, I had a lot of interest
- 11:24in in Keldon Johnson, Den Vessel. Obviously they're gonna see huge usage boosts
- 11:28with no Wemby, but I mean it's kind of uncomfortable paying almost seven K
- 11:33for these guys in a sixteen point spread. And really, I mean,
- 11:37Kelden doesn't have that good of a matchup if you think about it, He's
- 11:41probably gonna be guarded by Giannis or I mean, I would assume Jannis gets
- 11:46gets the Keldon assignment, and that's a pretty pretty tough matchup to beat.
- 11:52Usage will be there for him, so he can definitely get there. But
- 11:56like the downside of a guy like Kelden Johnson is huge and just talking like
- 12:00pivots. You look at guys in the same range at sixty sixty nine to
- 12:05like, you know, a little bit cheaper or a little bit more expensive
- 12:09Jamie Grant two hundred dollars more and looking at a third of the ownership.
- 12:11I would much rather find the money to get up to Jeremy Grant or even
- 12:16pay down to Chris Middleton in a better matchup less I mean, more mouse
- 12:18to feed on the Bucks sid obviously, but I just think that there's a
- 12:22decent amount of downside to a guy like Keldon Johnson more inclined to play into
- 12:28Devin Vessel just for the matchup, Gonna be guarded by Malik Beasley and Damian
- 12:33Lillard, most likely on offense, and yeah, this is a pretty solid
- 12:39matchup for three point shooters. Devin Vessel had had a bounce back game against
- 12:43the Lakers two games ago after shooting, you know, not making more than
- 12:46one three pointer, and three straight games went five for ten from three,
- 12:50and I think, yeah, he's yeah, he leads a team in usage
- 12:54with Wemby off the court, so I think that he would be the preferred
- 12:58spend up option on the Spurs side if I was choosing between Calden and Vessel.
- 13:03But I don't think that it's too crazy to get away from both of
- 13:05them and just say, yeah, this game is gonna blow out, and
- 13:09maybe neither of them go more than thirty to thirty two minutes and they just
- 13:13completely bust at their price tag, and then you're gaining a ton of leverage
- 13:16on the field just by fading the guys. You don't even have to get
- 13:18too crazy with the rest of your lineup. But yeah, Facill would definitely
- 13:22be my preferred spend up and seeing a good amount of ownership on Trey Jones,
- 13:30which I'm not really seeing. His minutes are fluctuted a lot lately,
- 13:35not seeing a ton of minutes. The fantasy scoring has been way down.
- 13:39I guess the matchup is good, but I think that I would probably rather
- 13:43pay three hundred more for Malchi Brandham, who is probably the safest in terms
- 13:48of playing into blowout or playing into a close game. I mean, he's
- 13:52been getting a lot more ball handling roll and Pop likes him a lot,
- 13:56so I think that he would probably be the preferred option. But choose between
- 14:00him and Trey Jones. But I mean, all these guys are gonna play
- 14:05play minutes. They're not. It's just not like a situation where they only
- 14:07have eight seven eight guys that are gonna play. I mean, Cheddy Austin's
- 14:09gonna see minutes, Champagnee is gonna see minutes. Doug McDermott, we'll see
- 14:15minutes. I don't think DeVante Graham will see much or Dominic Barlow, but
- 14:20they definitely have bodies they can throw out there. It's not like a super
- 14:24shorthanded situation. So I just think that I would rather just play into the
- 14:31value centers and try to find a different way to get some upside of my
- 14:35lineup while fading Kelden and Devin Vassel and then on the buck side. I
- 14:41mean, yeah, it's it's an easy matchup for all of these guys,
- 14:45Damian Lord, Jannis, Chris Middleton, brook Lope has all all very easy
- 14:48matchup for them to dominate in. Obviously, Giannis is going to be one
- 14:52of the more popular spend ups, but rightfully so. He could definitely,
- 14:56I mean he could put up sixty real points in three orders of play for
- 15:00sure, maybe get up to seventy five eighty draftings points and only three quarters.
- 15:03That's definitely in the range of outcomes. So I don't think that I
- 15:07would be too scared to play into Giannis regardless of blowout. And yeah,
- 15:13if you don't want to pay the eleven K tag for Jannis, Damian Millard
- 15:16totally fine play as well. Took over a little bit last game against the
- 15:20Rockets, went for thirty nine to five and eleven put up seventy draftings points.
- 15:24I mean that was in thirty seven minutes of play, So I think
- 15:30he's a little bit less likely to hit a ceiling outcome in three quarters of
- 15:33play, whereas Giannis could definitely do it. So that would be a little
- 15:37bit hesitant to play Damian Lillard unless you think the game is going to somehow
- 15:39stay close, then maybe you'd want to correlate Dame with Devin Vessel Keldon Johnson
- 15:46type of player. And yeah, Middleton's gonna get a lot of ownership as
- 15:50well. Tough to say that he's a bad play, I mean he's not
- 15:54gonna. I think that he is probably the quickest one that would be pulled
- 15:58out of the game if this if this one does get out of hand,
- 16:00just with the injury history, not to say he can't put up a big
- 16:06fantasy game, fantasy game in twenty five to twenty eight minutes, but I
- 16:10think in the fourth court, if they're up by thirty points, I don't
- 16:14think that he's gonna gonna see the floor. He might even sit halfway through
- 16:17the third quarter if that's the case. So he would probably be my least
- 16:19favorite. And yeah, Brook Lopez just a just a leverage standpoint, just
- 16:25he's not going to come in with any ownership, and he's got a huge
- 16:27block up side obviously every time that he's on the on the court. So
- 16:32I think if you're mming twenty to one to fifty max, I would probably
- 16:34want to get over the field whatever he's going to be eight to eleven percent,
- 16:38maybe get fifteen twenty percent of him. I think it's definitely reasonable.
- 16:45Yeah, I mean Millik Beas is going to make his return tonights, that
- 16:48that would take Andre Jackson out of out of the starting lineup, out of
- 16:52play most likely. Bobby portis just fine. I think at five to three,
- 16:56great matchup also, but I would just be looking to get to Jannis.
- 17:00I think, yeah, I'm with you, first of all, what's
- 17:03going on? Slap, what's going on? Chris? And I wanted to
- 17:07touch on this before we touch any more on this game, whereas it's so
- 17:11it was comparing the is Mamu gonna be the Rashaun Holmes of yesterday? And
- 17:17I mean, I like, we talked. I messaged you like five minutes
- 17:19before locker yesterday. I got a little late start on the NBA research,
- 17:25but I was like, I don't understand why Holmes is like thirty forty percent.
- 17:27Like the Dallas can go so many different ways even without Lively, Derek
- 17:32Jones, Grant Williams, Powell, the prospers, Morris, Like, I
- 17:36could easily see a d MP for him. Where's Mamu? Unless you think
- 17:38it's gonna be Barlow getting the run over? I'm like, he has to
- 17:42be the backup five. They just don't have a backup. Big Bucks always
- 17:47will have one up Brookianness, Bobby on the court, Zach Collins, if
- 17:51Kelvin's the starting four, Collins at five. They just they have to play
- 17:55Mamu. So I'm not worried at all about that. In three k He's
- 17:57probably my favorite play on this burst literally just because he makes so much work.
- 18:02So yeah, I didn't play Holmes yesterday. I'm definitely playing mom ou
- 18:06dmpz dmsp's. But they could be down thirty then and then he gets his
- 18:08run kind of like Holmes got at the end. So definitely think mom,
- 18:11move's the backup five, you get the revenge narrative a little bits, and
- 18:15he's actually good. I mean they're gonna need a size, So I definitely
- 18:17like, mom, Well, I'm not worried about the Rashaun Holmes thing.
- 18:19One bits. Yeah, buck Side's easy for me. Dame is by far
- 18:23my least favorite of the three. Like Giannis can easily get there in three
- 18:26quarters, Dame can. But what do you think, like he's got to
- 18:30hit nine threes ten three, Like he's got to just start hot and they
- 18:33just feed him and he has one of those games because Giannest is gonna be
- 18:36able to get to the paint any time he wants and dominates. So and
- 18:40look I pulled it up. You look at the whole slate again, these
- 18:42are projections at shipping nation. We haven't projective for roughly twelve points higher than
- 18:48the next highest on the slate, which is KD. Right here, of
- 18:51course, I poor Zingos was out. Tatum would get a bump there,
- 18:53but just shows even in three quarters a run, or you take off five
- 18:57minutes from him, he gets you fifty five fifty eight. There's enough value
- 19:02on this slate where that might not kill you at all. So definitely good
- 19:04with Yannis. I love Mamu. Dave's not a bad play. He's just
- 19:10gonna get ownership. So I'd rather just get up to Yannis or probably Middleton,
- 19:15which I don't really like either. I think I like Bobby is my
- 19:17second favorite book running the second unit. If the game gets out of hand
- 19:19a little bit, maybe he gets it five minutes in the fourth or something
- 19:22without the starters then comes out. But usage is there and they're gonna pound
- 19:26these guys on the inside. So that's my take there. Spurs side.
- 19:32Yeah, Mom Wu definitely my favorites. Outside of that, I'll lean into
- 19:36you. Vicel Chucks, We've been on that train a little bit. I'm
- 19:38good with him. Zach Collins as well. Four to nine, him and
- 19:41Mom we're gonna split the five minutes, is how I see it. I
- 19:44like your brand, Ham shouts. I don't think his ownership. All these
- 19:47guys are gonna get some. But I think like the brand Hams of Soacans,
- 19:51the Doug mcdermot's of the world, I think they I like Doug.
- 19:56Actually, what's your take on Doug? They're gonna need up. He's gonna
- 19:59chuck. He always chucks. Bucks can be beat. I don't know this
- 20:02year. You're the numbers guy there, but Bucks have given up threes,
- 20:06I mean pretty much ever since I'd known him, especially with Bud So I
- 20:10like myself a little Doug, Dougie McDermott, what about you? Yeah,
- 20:14the Buck's definitely much more of a three point final this year, obviously having
- 20:17guys like Giannis and Brook Lopez out there to kind of just block the paint.
- 20:22We'll make them like that. But I don't know. I mean,
- 20:27you're he's not going to play twenties minutes. I think that, like realistically,
- 20:32got to ask yourself what is the upside of Doug McDermott and can he
- 20:37get you close to twenty DK points at three point four k? Probably,
- 20:41but I don't think it's the most likely outcome. Just they're not that shallow
- 20:45at at the small four position. They got keled in, you got Sohan,
- 20:49you got Cheddy. You got Champagnee, So I think they're they're pretty
- 20:56pretty deep at small Ford. I don't I don't think that he's much in
- 20:59play right now. It looks like he's getting a little bit of ownership to
- 21:00fifteen thirteen fifteen percent, So I'm find getting away with that, to be
- 21:06honest. Yeah, all those guys did our man Jordan, Yeah, he
- 21:08knows the bus guy over here, Mamu nukes every time he gets his run.
- 21:11Our man chets appreciate that. Two questions I'll throw it back to you.
- 21:17I'll answer Travis is after it's is there any Spurs you wouldn't play together?
- 21:22And then who do you like for run? You talked a little bit
- 21:25about that. For me, it'd be the mom moos. I like the
- 21:26brand Ham shout, probably Cheddy Asman, maybe Trey Jones, I think is
- 21:32how I see It's how do you see the blow out run? You mentioned
- 21:33brand Ham for sure being the safest either way. Let's just say we know
- 21:37they're losing by twenty five today, how would you approach that? And then
- 21:41any Spurs you wouldn't play together? So in terms of grouping for the Spurs,
- 21:47I feel like you should probably be. I think I'll be Max one,
- 21:51Brandham and Trey Jones, probably Max, I mean definitely Max Max one,
- 22:00Barlow, Mamu, but I don't think you'll get both of them in
- 22:03lineups. I feel like probably Max two of Helden's Champagnee, Doug and Sohan
- 22:15and Chetty. I think I'll probably max two of those guys, and I
- 22:18think everybody else can kind of flot. I think Devin is kind of I
- 22:22think he's pretty pretty safe to play in any any grouping, So I think
- 22:26those would be the guys I would look to pair away from each other the
- 22:30blowout run should be should be definitely Mamu, probably Champagnee, probably Brandham,
- 22:38maybe Devonte Graham, and then yeah, I think Cheddy would be the fifth
- 22:45one. Yeah, yeah, I think I think that probably makes the most
- 22:48sense. And I mean I didn't mention this on the buck side, but
- 22:52some of these guys are going to play in a blowout as well. I
- 22:55mean, campaign three point a K coming with one to two percent Ownershi,
- 23:00I don't think that's the craziest play either. He's obviously always been a really
- 23:03really solid fantasy guy, somebody that we look to when he's doing spot starts,
- 23:07but he's he could definitely play in a blow and I think eighteen twenty
- 23:11minutes out of Campaign very well could put up twenty five to thirty drawkings points.
- 23:15He's done that multiple times. And a matchup versus the Spurs, he
- 23:18could just be out there running up and down the court, just piling up
- 23:22the stats for sure. I think Boat, it's not even clicking Boat.
- 23:26Yeah, uh it. Salver doesn't show his his game logs. I think
- 23:32it's something to do with his name. I'm weird, But I mean he
- 23:37would definitely get blought run too. I mean he was. He was hooping
- 23:41a couple of games ago. It was back on Saturday. He had a
- 23:44great first half. He would young guy. He would definitely get a bunch
- 23:47of blowot run too. Yeah, and this is just large, large field.
- 23:48Do you feel really confident Blaut? I would probably still rely more on
- 23:52those Spurs guys that you still know will get some run in the first I
- 23:56mean yeah, like Campaign will get some run two in the first half as
- 23:59well. But I would much prefer taking the shots on these the moor mom,
- 24:03who's gonna be chalked? The cheddy Austin's, the Champagnes of the world,
- 24:07the Trey Jones of the world. Bran Ham's probably more than I would
- 24:11these scrub bucks, but I don't think it's the craziest thing if you throw
- 24:14one or something in there. Pat Conington is back, Yes, he is
- 24:17back, which does muddy up things a bit, But like you don't want
- 24:21bow Champion a close game, he's still going to get his run in blowout.
- 24:23Champagne can get hot very fast. Yeah, we mentioned Cheddy. We're
- 24:26spending a bunch of time on this game because it's by far the premiere game
- 24:30on the slates. I like Brook though, Yeah, any center outside of
- 24:34Mom will count. Like Unfortunately, I don't think it's gonna be low owned.
- 24:37They're just way too cheap for their projection, for their role. Splitting
- 24:41all forty eight, you think people saying Collins an easy fade at ninety percent,
- 24:45Mom w forty five? Give me Mom. I'd just like Mom will
- 24:48way more in this spot. I like Collins too. I'm immming I'll have
- 24:52some. I don't think you need a max one to sheets question how I'd
- 24:55max it for sure, the Barlow one, but I doubt I get any
- 24:57Barlow, since I do love them with that much. Outside of that,
- 25:02I'm not even sure. I usually don't make too many rules in NBA,
- 25:06just because there's five guys on the floor, the possessions up and down like
- 25:10they I don't the sport. I hardly make any rules. So yeah,
- 25:14I'll lean on I'll lean on what you said for sheets right there and the
- 25:17ball run the brand hands of the world. I have some interest in Doug
- 25:21and then Cheddy also would be a blow guy for me as well. But
- 25:22any final thoughts, the main takeaway this is where all the ownership's gonna go.
- 25:27I guess how many spurs are too many? You're gonna set any rule
- 25:30there? If you got five, I guess six. I don't know if
- 25:33I want six, But if you got five, how would you be beyond
- 25:37that? I probably don't see myself getting more than two to three in some
- 25:41of my lineups, just because I I just think that this is a pretty
- 25:45big leverage spot to make in fading guys like Keldon and Vessel. There's some
- 25:51guys that are a little bit more expensive, a little bit cheaper that I
- 25:52like more than these guys that we'll talk about in a little bit, But
- 25:57yeah, I think I gotta respectfully disagree with some of the guys in chats
- 26:00saying that Collins is an easy fade. I mean, he's gonna be starting
- 26:03at four point nine k. I mean, regardless of the matchup, it's
- 26:07hard to see him. He's not gonna give you fifteen to sixteen draftings points,
- 26:12I don't think, and if he does, then I'll just I'll take
- 26:15my l But I think that he's a pretty I think he's pretty good Chuck
- 26:18personally. Yeah, I mean I don't know how anyone could be an easy
- 26:22faate, like be that confident when he's the highest owned player on this late.
- 26:26But it also if you feel that way, I mean, you can
- 26:27always make a case of faith the chalkiest play on this late as well.
- 26:30So if that's your lead, go for it. I mean, he'll definitely
- 26:33be in my lineups as well. I just if I had to pick one
- 26:37at their ownerships and the price and everything, I would pick Mamu myself over
- 26:41Zach Collins. Today, let's keep it rolling. Next game on the slate
- 26:45again, that is the main one by far. We're gonna go backwards and
- 26:48talk on the first game of then Night Memphis Grizzlies, New Orleans Pelicans two
- 26:52twenty eight and a half total. Pelicans are favored by seven on the injury
- 26:56report here. For the Memphis side, Derrick Rose is out. That's all
- 27:00that matters as far as the Pelicans. Larry Nance is out. Zion is
- 27:03questionable. Do you have any lean? It's an illness, so I'm not
- 27:07really sure how you can have a leen. But if Zion's out, what
- 27:11does that do obviously for the Slates then like the Dames of the World become
- 27:15less owned because it's in, or even the Honest too. Then it comes
- 27:19probably what actually looking at it now, if Zion's out, what does that
- 27:22do to like Keldon and Vasel and all that too? Compared to the cjs,
- 27:26the Ingrams, the Joe Veils of the world. You absolutely nailed Trey
- 27:30Murphy last week. I believe it's a Tuesday maybe the Wednesday show. Absolutely
- 27:34nooped Zion obviously huge Jews. If he's in, I think this game is
- 27:40pretty low owned across the board. If he's out, people are gonna go
- 27:44to that Pelican side. But how do you think that compare, Like what
- 27:48would it do to the Middletons the Keldon's, the Vassels, the Yannis,
- 27:52the Dames. Ownership would it be Pelicans talk more? So? Do you
- 27:55think or you still think it's saying the Bucks game. I don't think that
- 27:59a ton of ship would flock to these guys, No pun intended, but
- 28:04I mean, because Ingram seven eight, I think people would probably much rather
- 28:08play Keldon at almost a thousand cheaper in a role where he's gonna have more
- 28:14usage to go around. Maybe. I mean, Jonas Valentin is definitely not
- 28:21going to get a lot of ownership just just for the matchup and for the
- 28:26Spurs that having way more value at center. So I think that he's pretty
- 28:29pretty safe at his ownership projection right now. And yeah, I don't know,
- 28:36I probably get some more ownership to the secondary guys like Drey Murphy,
- 28:41Harb Jones. But sorry, if you got it, just meet it.
- 28:48You're good. If if you got to mute, yeah you're good. I
- 28:52agree with you totally. Joe val would be all in regardless, he'd beat
- 28:56I still don't know man at seven point two, kay, I feel like
- 28:57I prefer I don't know, I'll let when you get a mute. I'm
- 29:00not sure how much Joeveil, I'd get to even if Zion's out, because
- 29:04I love Mamu so much, and I mean, I'd definitely be playing Collems.
- 29:08It's just the roster construction that gives you. If you look at these
- 29:11other guys in that three K range, in that four K range, they
- 29:15don't even close to compare to these Spur guy Spurs guys, which everyone will
- 29:19be going to that roster construction. I get if you want to get away.
- 29:22Joe Veil fits in that boat, same boat as Brooke, but I
- 29:26probably would have a little more Brooke. I agree with you though. The
- 29:30Ingram's the CJS. I think it eats into the vessels Kelvin Johnson especially people
- 29:34worried about the blowout, but because of the price savings a little bit,
- 29:40I don't know. I'm not as confident though, Like shooting Guard small Ford
- 29:42eligibility is nice for BI. I definitely the Trey Murphy's the Herb Jones I
- 29:47think would get a little boost and ownership, but again, you're still in
- 29:51that five K range, like you got to do something, and those Spurs
- 29:53are still priced around that, so I still don't think. I still think
- 29:57it is the Buck Spurs that would would have the ownership over the Pelicans,
- 30:02but keep going. Yeah, so I in terms of Zion, I think
- 30:07that he's gonna sit just even if you take away them prematurely ruling him out,
- 30:12it's still a downgrade to questionable. With the illness, which is most
- 30:17of the time leaning on the side of being out. He probably ate too
- 30:21much food at the buffet last night, has upset stomach, I'm guessing.
- 30:23So probably gonna sit here, I would guess, And Yeah, that would
- 30:29definitely bring Trey Murphy would for sure be the one to start. I saw
- 30:32somebody in Chad mentioned Dyson Daniels. I think that it's gonna be Trey Murphy
- 30:36show. He's gonna see thirty plus minutes, and I think that he just
- 30:37becomes a smash play. Great matchup for him against the Grizzlies, who are
- 30:44one of the worst three point scenes in the league, and Trey Murphrey just
- 30:48he's a stud, big fan of him. I would definitely be getting a
- 30:52lot of him at five point a k if Zion is out. In terms
- 30:55of how that would affect the guys like Ingram, CJ. Joval, Ingram,
- 31:00definitely all these guys go to see bigger usage bump. But the guy
- 31:03that I would have the most interest in if Zion were to be out would
- 31:06be c Jim McCollum. I have a lot of interest in him regardless.
- 31:08This is like one of the best matchup for opposing point guards. Grizzlies are
- 31:12bottom three and DVP to point guards on the year, and I don't think
- 31:17that getting a guy like John Morant back is really just gonna improve their on
- 31:19ball defense that much. Yeah, like I said, great matchup for three
- 31:23point shooters. CJ is knocking down over three a game, so I think
- 31:26that he could have a big, big scoring performance on top of the added
- 31:32perfer rules like rebounds and assists. Got a twenty four percent usage rate in
- 31:37the year, twenty four percent assist percent, and so I really like the
- 31:40the price SAG and upside of CJ McCollum in this one. At seven point
- 31:42three K and that would definitely I think that Joe VAL's minutes would be pretty
- 31:48safe and I think he would definitely be in play. You gonna have no
- 31:52ownership, like we said, all the ownership is going to be on the
- 31:56Spurs side for centers. I think that he becomes a pretty intriguing option at
- 32:00seven point two k with the low and center spot, but it is a
- 32:04definitely a tougher matchup. I know we make fun of Bismack Biambo sometimes,
- 32:08but I mean he's a He's a really solid defender. Even behind him,
- 32:12you got Xavier Tillman. Tillman who's been pretty strong. Jared Jackson Junior will
- 32:15slide over to the center at some sometimes. He's always been a really,
- 32:19really solid defender. But Joe VALA's just been crushing lately. Seen scored no
- 32:24less than forty four Draftings points in four straight games, and one of those
- 32:29was in a game where he only played twenty three minutes against the Spurs.
- 32:32So just match up aside, I think that his minutes can be safe.
- 32:36Upside is definitely there, so I would not mind him. He'll see a
- 32:38big rebounding boost with Nozaian on the floor too. And then the last guy
- 32:45I'll mention on the Pelicans, Hart Jones, gonna have a tough defensive assignment,
- 32:50definitely gonna beginning the John Moran assignment, and that actually does bring a
- 32:52good amount of foul risk. His jaw averaged over eight free throws three free
- 32:57throw attempts per game last year, so he could has been losing a ton
- 33:00of minutes to Naji Marshall and definitely a lot of downside to him. But
- 33:06it is a pretty decent matchup for shooters if you consider Herb Jones one of
- 33:10those. But I would much rather be looking to c J, CJ,
- 33:16Trey Murphy than Ingram and Jovel on the on the Pelican side and on the
- 33:22Grizzly side. Yeah, I mean the game John Rant back, obviously,
- 33:27that's the big story. I think that kind of takes pretty much everybody out
- 33:30of play. Everybody's pretty priced up as if job were not to be playing,
- 33:36and I actually think that this is a pretty solid price tage for John
- 33:38Morant nine point three K. You're definitely kind of just guessing on how many
- 33:43minutes he's going to be playing, how how rusty he's going to be,
- 33:45or how effective he's going to be. Tough matchup against against Herb Jones for
- 33:50sure, but I think that he's very, very worth playing into the upside
- 33:54case. He's had a couple of pretty good games against this this team in
- 34:00his career, and I mean his offense is going to be needed really badly.
- 34:04So I think that Jaw is a pretty pretty intriguing payoff spot, only
- 34:08looking at five percent ownership right now. Last last year, he dominated usage
- 34:15on the team thirty four percent, led the team in assists percentage forty one
- 34:17percent, seven point six minutes of touch time average over twenty drives per game.
- 34:23Johns foun Erina is not the best defenders. I think he could definitely
- 34:27get downhill, get to the rim and put up a pretty big scoring night.
- 34:30And I think he's definitely gonna want to show out in his first game
- 34:32back. So I like John Morant a lot as a contrarian spend up option,
- 34:37and I will kind of be off of the other guys. I guess
- 34:39you can keep in Jeron Jackson Junior in your playerpool if you wanted to.
- 34:43I think I don't think his upside seats too big of a hit with Jaw
- 34:47as way different than Desmond Bain, who's been doing all the ball handling that's
- 34:51gonna be taken over by Jaw now, So I think JJ is kind of
- 34:54fine to keep into your pool. I think he's still got a little bit
- 34:58of upside, but Jaw definitely my preferred option on the Grizzly side, I
- 35:05got you a mute, so much going on. I can't wait to get
- 35:08these two monitors on back home. We don't have to worry about that.
- 35:12I definitely am with you on the Grizzly side. It's just jar R bust
- 35:15and he's so interesting. There is obviously risk involved, but like I said,
- 35:20it's been suspension. He's been practicing with the team, like thirty five
- 35:22percent usage rate last year, at five percent ownership in nine point three K.
- 35:28Like, man, I'll be having some job for sure. He has
- 35:30that slate breaking up side that. I'm good with the Joevell talk. I
- 35:36like the Joevel talk. I like if Zion is out. Let's say,
- 35:39if Zion's in. Someone asked about or the Zion sid Someone asked about if
- 35:46Zion was in, talk about Trey Murphy, what would that do with Yeah,
- 35:50with Trey, and then talk about if Zion. You said you have
- 35:52some interest in CJ. But seven point nine K is a good price for
- 35:57Zion. He has that power forward eligibility, which is he's probably pretty low
- 36:00owned. What are your thoughts there? And I do feel confident if Zion's
- 36:05out that Ingram will probably be the highest owned, the guy that gets the
- 36:08biggest bump in terms of ownership for the Pelicans. Yeah, I don't think
- 36:14I would really have much interest in Zion. If he's in, he's gonna
- 36:15be guarded by a Jaron Jackson junior. Tough matchup. The Grizzlies, as
- 36:20bad as they've been offensively and defensively to a degree, they're actually one of
- 36:23the better rim protection League teams in the league, top two in rim defense,
- 36:30and they're really solid transition team to bottom. I guess top four in
- 36:35transition defense, which is two areas that Zion kind of operates the most,
- 36:38is where he gets a lot of his upsides. So I would be fine
- 36:40getting away from Zion personally even if he's in. Just not the matchup for
- 36:45him. But yeah, I mean that's gonna take a big, big minute
- 36:52ceiling doc off of Trey Murphy. Still, the matchup is good for him.
- 36:57I could see him creeping up to twenty seven to twenty eight minutes if
- 37:00Zion is in just just for the matchup. It's just it's really good for
- 37:05him. So I think he's okay, not definitely not as good as a
- 37:08play obviously. If Zion were to be out five point eight k, you
- 37:12know, almost reaching six k off the benches. It's tough. It's like
- 37:15like paying for Malik Monk. Who could you know? He could definitely break
- 37:17the slate at that that price tag. But there's a lot of a lot
- 37:22of downside to it as well, So I would definitely be I mean,
- 37:25Murphy projects as a really negative value right now with Zion projected in, So
- 37:30that's kind of how I would I would follow, maybe give him a little
- 37:34a little bit of a boost on the solver, and if I get,
- 37:38you know, slightly over the field seven eight percent of him, then I
- 37:40would be fine with that, but not as good of a play with Zion
- 37:44in. Yeah, if Zion's in, I mean this game is gonna be
- 37:46very low owned. If he's out, I still think the Memphis I will
- 37:51be low own. Maybe some Trey. I don't like her, last last
- 37:54guy, Nausei Marshall, he's been losing some minutes to her. He's down
- 37:59there at four points two k. Again, we have this spurs value and
- 38:04stuff, which is why I really not sure we need to get to any
- 38:07of these guys. But could you mix them in the pool again? If
- 38:09Zion's out only I take or would be for me for sure, but I
- 38:13still not even sure I need it. Yeah, So the I don't necessarily
- 38:19think that Zion in or out would do too much to Nausey Marshall, I
- 38:23think that his minutes are more connected with with Herb Jones because they kind of
- 38:30swap in and out. If you should just bump, you think or you
- 38:34just think Zion can get him some more open shots, so you would actually
- 38:37not look at you look at it more of a positive if Zion for nause
- 38:42Yeah, because you said Zion like Zion doesn't do anything like I'd look at
- 38:45it more like you like, Zion's gonna shoot the ball, get in the
- 38:46paint, and that's less shots to go around there. But you can also
- 38:49look at it the other way. Defenses collapse, focus on them more,
- 38:52then you get more open looks. So I don't know. I guess I'm
- 38:55going back and forth on what what Zion would do to nause Yeah. I
- 39:02don't necessarily know if that would increase or decrease his upside. I just think
- 39:07that it's more so just about how you're playing it. If you're considering playing
- 39:10keeping both of herb Jones and Naji in your playpool. I would be Max
- 39:14one of those guys for sure, just because they directly eat into each other.
- 39:20I guess that I mean have to funnel some more minutes his way if
- 39:22Zion were to be out. I think the last time Zion missed, I
- 39:27know in the Wizard's game, Zion was out of that one, and now
- 39:30you go out to twenty eight minutes. But then you look at HERB Jones
- 39:34minutes in that game, he was down to twenty minutes. So that's where
- 39:37you can kind of make the connection that they are very negatively correlated. I
- 39:43did see somebody mentioned Jose Alvarado and chat. I saw us people talking about
- 39:45him in discord earlier being a pivot to trade Jones, and I definitely can
- 39:51see that he's been playing really well always. I mean, he's just like
- 39:57a hesky little dude that can rack up steals. He's a pretty solid it's
- 40:01a pretty solid offensive game, decent shooter, been shooting a lot better,
- 40:05and I think that he's gonna see his normal eighteen to twenty two minutes most
- 40:10likely, and it's a really good matchup for opposing point guards. The Grizzlies
- 40:15are bottom three. I believe in DVP versus the position. Yeah, bottom
- 40:20three, So yeah he can. He can knock down some threes and add
- 40:23some of the perfields. We know he's gonna add some some assists, a
- 40:27couple of rebounds and definitely well we'll mix in some steals. I don't think
- 40:30that he's the craziest pivot off of off of Trey Jones at all. Actually,
- 40:34I actually kind of liked that a lot. I like it. Yeah,
- 40:37he'll be very low on for sure. Any of these value guys outside
- 40:40of these spurs are going to be low on. So don't mind that four
- 40:44games. Like got to try and get different in some spots. Our man
- 40:47Shawan v What do you say? Rio nudas ship I haven't seen him yet.
- 40:51He did double down or not double down? He said after that,
- 40:53it's NFL season, hasn't really wide and watch an NBA but the chat already
- 40:58said it go it's Rio is the man, absolutely the man, very knowledgeable
- 41:02in the NBA streets. It puts in a lot of time. He does
- 41:05our slate plan over here at chippination dot com. Not going to show that
- 41:09you'd bet to be a member. But he bays sound top tier, mid
- 41:12tier, lower tier, writes a blurb on the guys that he writes up
- 41:15as well updates throughout the day as well Core report he's on we have cash
- 41:21core reports of course these are projections. We have ownership correlation tools. We
- 41:25have another tool, Soft launching coming out. Very excited for that. With
- 41:29a lot of data ceiling rankings. It's all coming together. Data is starting
- 41:32to pile up for this year. So very excited for these tools. The
- 41:36more data we have, the better they get. But yes, Rio is
- 41:38with us at ship. It contributes a little bit in NFL. He's knowledgeable
- 41:43in all the sports shipped one hundred K and MMA two weeks in a row,
- 41:46seventy K, thirty K right there. So Rio absolutely the man.
- 41:51Love talking some hoops Tuesday Wednesdays with them. Let's keep it rolling again.
- 41:54Hey, we love talking hoops up. This is a fun show. Four
- 41:57games. Rio and I are like man forty five minutes may the chat you
- 42:00guys, ask questions. We have time today. Obviously the Buck Spurs game
- 42:04was the biggest one, but always fun. Talking some moves again thirty minutes
- 42:07after a thirty minute later is locked Today seven thirty pm Eastern Let's keep it
- 42:13roll. The next game on the slate two games at ten Phoenix Suns Portland
- 42:17Trailblazers two thirty one total. Phoenix is favored by seven and a half.
- 42:22Unfortunate for Bradley Beal now it is the ankle. He is out. Josha
- 42:25Koge out as well. On the Portland side, Shaden Sharp is questionable in
- 42:30terms of ownership for this game. I mean they're all going to be low
- 42:35on man outside of this Bucks Spurs game. As a total game ownership,
- 42:38it's gonna be low, I think d book. And of course, if
- 42:43Shadon Sharp's out, then Anthony Simons would definitely get some ownership. How much
- 42:47ownership, though, would it change, because if everyone's locked into this Spurs
- 42:51Bucks game, you might only have so many roster spots to be messing with.
- 42:54But Simons would by far get the biggest bump on the Portland side of
- 42:59Sharp's outs. Talk a little DeAndre eight in Revenge game. I saw my
- 43:01guy Jake bring it up. Center's loaded. You know where Center's going to
- 43:06go. Collin's Mammuve for cheap. But we mentioned Brook Joe Val which can
- 43:09only get better. Zion's out eight and in this revenge spot right here,
- 43:13Nurkic right here on the revenge on the other side. So senator's a very
- 43:17very important position. And yeah, most nights feel like two center nights nowadays.
- 43:22This definitely does thoughts on that, thoughts on this game what Shayden Sharp
- 43:24does. Yeah, I have a lot of interest in this game for sure.
- 43:28I think that I'll have multiple pieces in across a lot of my lineups.
- 43:31In this one. I was actually pretty surprised to see the over under
- 43:36but two thirty one right now in a Sun's game. I mean, both
- 43:39these teams usually on the lower end of scoring, and the games toles usually
- 43:45kind of reflect that. A lot of times they're in the two twenties sometimes
- 43:47in the teams. But yeah, like you said, Bradley Beal going to
- 43:52be out, so we already know what that looks like for the Sun's going
- 43:54to have a starting lineup of Booker, kd Nurkic, Eric Gordon, Grayson
- 43:59Allen most likely, And yeah, start with the Sun side. It's I'm
- 44:07pretty into Devin Booker here just in terms of his role. It's just really
- 44:10good as the lead ball handler, second on the team and usage first,
- 44:14assist percentage, first in touch time, just kind of I guess a slightly
- 44:19negative to neutral matchup for him against the Blazers. They've done a pretty good
- 44:22job defending opposing ballhandlers this season. I mean you look, even one game
- 44:27ago, they held Steph Curry and Chris Paul to a combined three six and
- 44:30sixteen line on four of nineteen shooting, which is just insane. I don't
- 44:36think that. I mean Booker just he's a lot a lot younger and a
- 44:39lot like more consistent. Right now, I'm going to see a ton ton
- 44:43of shot volume, assist number is going to be up. But I think
- 44:47if you're just comparing him to some of the guys in that same range,
- 44:51the Tatum jaw Dame type of plays, I think I would I slightly prefer
- 44:59those other guys a little bit more than Booker right now. That's kind of
- 45:04how I'm approaching I definitely I would just take the ownership discount on a guy
- 45:07like John Moran or just play into the upside of Damian Lillard a little bit
- 45:09more. That's kind of how I'm gonna go about it. But fine matchup
- 45:15for him. I guess if you wanted to play him. Definitely would not
- 45:16fault you for that nine point seven k pretty solid price tag for him.
- 45:21A similar story for KD tougher matchup gonna go against Jeremy Grant, pretty plus
- 45:25defender. I would say KD hasn't really shown the same upside as the as
- 45:30years before, hasn't really been adding a ton of assists or rebounds to a
- 45:34stat line. His upside has taken a pretty big hit because of that too,
- 45:37So I am kind of like talking myself into more of being underweight on
- 45:44these guys as as good as they're projecting, and I guess, as fine
- 45:46as the matchup is, I just am kind of struggling to see the upside
- 45:51case. But I guess on a four game slate you don't really You're just
- 45:53looking for raw points. So they make a ton of sense in certain ross
- 45:58constructions. I would not fault anybody for going to them. And yeah,
- 46:02I think that Nurkic, although only being center eligible, my favorite option on
- 46:08the Sun side. His minutes have been up there now seeing at least twenty
- 46:13nine and six straight games. Scored thirty three plus draftings points in five of
- 46:15those six games, which is not if he scored thirty three. I don't
- 46:20think you'd be happy with that at seven point four K, but he's gone
- 46:23over thirty seven Draftings points four out of his last six games, so the
- 46:29upside is definitely there. He's got up to fifty a couple of those games,
- 46:31and in the same matchup earlier in the year, he went for eighteen
- 46:35points, twelve rebounds in twenty nine minutes, put up forty four Draftings points,
- 46:38so he's definitely got the upside. He has been pretty involved as a
- 46:44playmaker too, assist numbers are a little bit up there, so I think
- 46:49Nurkic obviously is gonna come in with little to no ownership. Seven point four
- 46:52quick four K. Totally fine with him. And then I think the last
- 46:58guys that would make your pool Eric gord in, Grayson Allen five point six,
- 47:01five point five K. Sally preferred Grayson Allen just I guess for the
- 47:07position of eligibilities shooting guard, small forward. Been more consistent than Eric Gordon
- 47:12this season, so he's fine. But I think just a lot of my
- 47:16interest is in Nurkic, and then I am fine getting to Devin Booker and
- 47:20Kevin Durant, but most of my interest in this game is on the Blazers
- 47:23side. I mean, great matchup for Anthony Simons. He's gonna be the
- 47:29first guy in my core today for sure. Definitely would set up even nicer
- 47:34if Shadon sharpbord A, miss woul Funnel more usage his way, for sure.
- 47:37But I mean, you just look at how bad the Suns guard defense
- 47:40has been the last week. I just read some of these numbers of guys
- 47:44that have had good games against him. Last game twenty two to fourth and
- 47:47eleven line with six steals for Tyas Jones, Jalen Brunson fifty points, six
- 47:53rebounds, nine er sister five steals. Spencer did Waiting and Cam Thomas both
- 47:58had good game sixteen to eight seven, twenty four, two and four for
- 48:02both of them. And yeah, I mean, since Simon's has returned,
- 48:07he's just been lights out, leaving the team in usage assist percentage. He's
- 48:10averaging twenty seven points, three point two rebounds, five point eight assist since
- 48:15he's returned. I love this matchup for him. I'm gonna be playing him
- 48:19regardless of Shade and Sharp his enter out just he's a smash play tonight for
- 48:22sure. And Jeremy Grant a lot interested in him too, since he returned
- 48:27from injury two days ago or two games ago and really didn't even miss it
- 48:30beat. He saw thirty eight and forty one minutes in those two games and
- 48:37shot the ball no less than nineteen times in both those games. So I
- 48:40think that just his minutes four is going to be high, which would boost
- 48:45his his fantasy ceiling for sure. So I think he's a great price to
- 48:47I much prefer Jimmy Grant to Kelton Johnson tonight at two hundred dollars more expensive.
- 48:54And yeah, same same theme, I guess. So the slate is
- 48:59low own center off DeAndre Eighten minutes are finally back to normal. Got to
- 49:02thirty three minutes last game. The fantasy output wasn't really there, but we
- 49:07know he's He's shown the upside before at six point four k got pretty big
- 49:10rebounding upside. And it's a slightly neutral to above average matchup against Yusef Nurkic.
- 49:16The Suns are bottom eight and rim defense, but are much better in
- 49:22terms of fantasy scoring versus the center position. Last time these teams faced off,
- 49:27Aiden went for thirty seven draftings points in thirty one minutes. So I
- 49:30think that he's a pretty solid low owned play and you're just you're gaining a
- 49:34ton of leverage off the field by playing anybody that's not a Spurs center.
- 49:37So I think that he should definitely be making the player pool as well.
- 49:40But yeah, a lot of a lot of interest in this game, for
- 49:44sure. This is Yeah, this by far is my second favorite game outside
- 49:47of that Spurs Milwaukee game. I really do like Book. I don't need
- 49:52KD. The upside isn't there. I do prefer Book over Jah. I
- 49:55don't know if I would say the floor is high. I feel like the
- 49:59floor is high or they're just you know what you're getting from Book, whereas
- 50:01the ceilings are the same. I do like JA two Tatum. I like
- 50:06Tatum more. Por Zingis is out, but you do if you have a
- 50:08couple of roster spots they both start at nine or ten Eastern, you will
- 50:12get that news. But right now, I like Book the most. Who
- 50:15is the other guy you said in that range, Dame? Yeah, Book's
- 50:17my favorite. I would go Book Jah Tatum Dame right now in that range.
- 50:22I love the book. Anthony, I mean Anthonty Simon is just a
- 50:24hooper without If Shadon Sharps in completely fine. If he's out, maybe people
- 50:30don't have the roster spots to get him and just would be a smash nass
- 50:32play. I mean, any guy's getting forty minutes basically Jareddy Grant Simon's with
- 50:37the usage they have, this is by far my second favorite. I do
- 50:40prefer nurkic over eighteen. I think I still think they're both totally fine that
- 50:45one case savings. I just we've seen the upside for NRK a little more
- 50:50as of late. But again I'm good with Ayton. Any thoughts on like
- 50:52the Scoots, the Malcolm Brogden's, if Shadon Sharp's out, if you do
- 50:58have the roster spots, if you want to keep talking real quick, I
- 51:02will look at some of the just like the usage numbers with rugging off the
- 51:07courts, I'm not not sure exactly how it's gonna affect things. So Grayson
- 51:10Allen and let me go to all and sort by salary because the Grayson Allen
- 51:15and Eric Gordon talks very interesting. So can's right here in the middle that's
- 51:22gonna get soak up all the ownership right there. I don't know. I
- 51:25wanted to say I prefer Gordon slightly. We have Gordon projected forero point three
- 51:30to six more. But that shooting guard and small Ford eligibility is nice.
- 51:32If I just had shooting guarden spot, I don't know. You know,
- 51:36Eric goreon the minutes are up there, three pointers are there. Grayson Allen
- 51:39does a little more with the peripherals. I guess not too strong to lean.
- 51:45I side a little bit with projection, but with that guard Ford elgibility,
- 51:50especially in a timeframe like this, you you might want some roster spots
- 51:52open there to plug him in that forward So I'd fit whoever fits my bill.
- 51:58I'm good so Can's gonna get all that ownership. And I personally don't
- 52:00like Soeka much. We didn't talk about him too much in Matt's first game.
- 52:05Oh man, I have a lot of a lot of bad things to
- 52:07say about him. I mean, he we both did. Man. Our
- 52:09teams were, oh gosh, actually no Jalen noell Man. I want to
- 52:14throw my phone out. Yeah, yes, I saw it. I see
- 52:20some just usage numbers. Looks like Broggden and Scoot both see a pretty big
- 52:23usage bump with with uh Shade and Sharp off the floor. I think that
- 52:29I'm not sure exactly how they would go with their starting lineup if sharpoard a
- 52:32miss, because to me, it makes sense to just slide in matisse tible
- 52:37and get some more on ball defense for Devin Booker. So that's kind of
- 52:40how I would lean lean them going. But I yeah, that just makes
- 52:46no sense. I don't know if they would. I think they kind of
- 52:47like Broggden off of the bench, definitely would see a more secure minutes floor
- 52:52if Sharp board a miss, But because that's about thirty two thirty two thirty
- 52:59four minutes to go around, so I think Tyble will take some of those.
- 53:02Probably a guy like Kamara would get a little bit more. I feel
- 53:07like Scoot is probably pretty secure in his role right now, regardless of Shade
- 53:10and Sharp. I think that Brogden might might get more of the minutes bump,
- 53:15But it makes sense for me to for them to go Tyble over over
- 53:20Brogden if Sharp is out. Man, you know, you know that it
- 53:23excites me, But it doesn't because I don't know if he'd probably be on
- 53:29book and he can go the book or KD routes. I don't I I
- 53:32don't worry about individual matchups much. I look at the t Stible as the
- 53:37best defender he can put up right there with herb Jones as well, so
- 53:39I wouldn't love that. But so many pick and rolls nowadays, the double
- 53:43screens, like there's so many switches. I don't worry about that too much.
- 53:46But maybe in the nights late able Tyble somehow gets the start man.
- 53:50I'm definitely interesting in a little thighable for cheap without the Spurs Milwaukee value Nissum
- 53:57Williams meaning this is Nurkic's first game back in Portland because he has been playing.
- 54:00But that does make sense. Yeah, I mean this by far my
- 54:05second favorite game. I think we covered it pretty well. I like Simons,
- 54:07I like book, both contrarian Spen centers, Jeremy Grant. Right here,
- 54:12it's more of the mid tiers. Like if you're not going to Danes,
- 54:15you're not going to Giannises the Ja. It's hard to get away from
- 54:17Spurs man like, I'll probably have at least two Spurs and almost every single
- 54:21one in my lineups, just because that's where the value offers. And I'll
- 54:23probably have one of Collins and Mamu in pretty much every lineup too. If
- 54:28you go an eight and Nurkic a Brook, if you go any two centers
- 54:32not named Mamu and zach Er and Collins, you can do whatever you want.
- 54:37So I don't see myself doing that too much. If I had to
- 54:40get to value right now, it would be Eric Gordon, Grayson Allen,
- 54:44but the Scoots, the Brogdens of Sharps out, I'd give a little boost.
- 54:47Any final thoughts before we go to the last game, last game of
- 54:52the Nights again the same time as the Phoenix Portland game, Boston head in
- 54:57Golden State two thirty five total. Boston is favored by six Chris as Porzingis
- 55:02is questionable big news on the late Chris Paul is also questionable. On the
- 55:07Warriors side, of course, Raymond is out, Gary Payton is out.
- 55:13Any leans on it's Porzingis's calf. I do think you said you had a
- 55:16lean that Porzingis would miss correct? Am I wrong? Was I imagining that?
- 55:21Um? You might have been imagined that. I'm not sure. It
- 55:22probably was that you just had zion. I know, so Porzingis, you
- 55:27didn't mention anything. Do you have a lien on Porzingis on CP three,
- 55:31and in terms of ownership in this game, obviously, if Porzingis misses Tatum
- 55:37at nine to five Jalen Brown at seven seven, I think would become I
- 55:42don't know if I want to say pretty popular, because you still have all
- 55:45this spur stuff. You still have Jiannis is the spend ingram. If Zion's
- 55:47out, their ownership would definitely be boosted. If Chris Paul's out, I'm
- 55:52not sure. Brandon Podsman another Wisco boy absolutely then who open Saint John's I
- 56:00did not expect him to be what he is in the league. Took a
- 56:02huge charge last game at the end too. I think he'd probably get the
- 56:06biggest boost, and I'd have interest at six to one, Not sure I
- 56:09want to go to anyone else. I mean Steph's nine k. He struggled
- 56:14last game mightily, but low owns Steph at nine k. Is that something
- 56:17you can get interested in? CP three's out talk about this one? Yeah,
- 56:22So I think that I'll start with the injury stuff first. So Porzingis,
- 56:27I think it's really just a fifty to fifty right now because they the
- 56:30Boston is on a back to back. This is the front end, and
- 56:32they get Sacramento tomorrow, so I think that one of Porzingis and Horford has
- 56:38got to be sitting. It would make sense for Porzingis to sit tonight and
- 56:43then Horford to sit tomorrow, just for just to keep them fresh. So
- 56:47I would probably slightly lean with Porzingis being out tougher with the late start,
- 56:53but I don't think that. I mean, definitely gonna give guys like Jalen
- 56:58Brown, Jayson Tatum dere quite bigger usage bumps. But I don't think that
- 57:01it's Chris tops being in is really like enough to get you off of these
- 57:07guys. I think if you're interested in In Tatum or Jalen Brown, I
- 57:09think you could play them regardless and then and then maybe feel a little bit
- 57:13better about your lineup if Porzingis were to be out. But Chris Paul,
- 57:19Yeah, I don't have a I don't have a strong lean. Illnesses are
- 57:22definitely tough this time of year. Everybody's sick, so really good chance that
- 57:25he sits. But yeah, if he's in kind of takes I mean pretty
- 57:31much everybody in the Warrior side out of play. I would think if he's
- 57:36out I mean, those minutes are going to get absorbed by Podzimski, probably
- 57:42Minga to a lesser degree, maybe a little bit funnels to to Moses Mooney,
- 57:46But I think that basically what that would do would kind of just secure
- 57:50POD's floor for minutes. I mean he's already seeing I mean it was three
- 57:54straight games of at least thirty two minutes and he got to thirty five in
- 57:58one of those. Yeah, definitely would be one of my favorite plays on
- 58:02the Warriors side if Chris Paul is out. But I mean, regardless,
- 58:07I feel like he's probably the safest option out of all the secondary guys beyond
- 58:13the Celtic side to start with Jason Tatum. It definitely an easier matchup with
- 58:17no Draymond Green. He's gonna get some of Jonathan Caminga Andrew Wiggins. They're
- 58:21both solid defensively, but it's a different They're not as physical as as a
- 58:24Draymond Greens. I think that Tatum could definitely have the upper hand in this
- 58:29matchup. I mean, nothing really stands out because both of these teams are
- 58:32pretty solid defensively. I mean Boston's top two in defense, Warriors are middle
- 58:37of the pack, but they do a pretty good job of limiting pretty much
- 58:40everything. They're good, good interior defense, pretty solid three point defense.
- 58:45So just kind of hoping that Tatums has a breakout game and a slightly below
- 58:50average matchup, but definitely could. Thirty percent usage rate on the season for
- 58:54Tatum leads a team in rebounding percentage two, which gives him a higher floor.
- 59:00And I think that just with this game, this has got to be
- 59:05a nationally televised game, right, It's got to be a TNT game.
- 59:08I'm guessing. Yeah, I'd imagine, I want it's probably the Memphis Pelicans
- 59:14and then Boston or and then this game. Let me look though quick.
- 59:17Yeah, so I would just assume that this game being a nationally televised game,
- 59:22it's gonna be one that the starters play pretty heavy minutes. You can
- 59:25see Tatum get close to forty minutes, and that would obviously boost his upside
- 59:30case. And yeah, would definitely see a usage uptick if Porzingis misses.
- 59:34I definitely think that he's a solid play in this range. I mean,
- 59:37I probably preferred him to Kevin Durant. I mean, ownership is kind of
- 59:40following that too. Yeah, I mean, there's not a ton of negative
- 59:46things to say about Tatum, pretty solid play. I think that I I
- 59:52might slightly have a preference to Jaylen Brown here, just he's an eighteen hundred
- 59:58cheaper then the Tatum. He has a lot of the same numbers used to
- 1:00:01just right behind Tatum second on the team. I mean, he's got kind
- 1:00:06of his floor is definitely definitely lower, but he's gotten up to the fifties
- 1:00:10scoring a couple times this year. And it's not like Tatum has really had
- 1:00:14a performance that's like blown you out of the water, and he hasn't posted
- 1:00:16like I had to have it score probably since the Indiana game a while ago.
- 1:00:22So Brown is going to see it easier matchup most likely, So I
- 1:00:28kind of prefer him. Warriors have kind of been giving up bigger games to
- 1:00:32guards over the past week or so. Give up a twenty four to three
- 1:00:35seven lines to Anthony Simons forty one points, five rebounds to assist to Cam
- 1:00:39Thomas, a big game to James Harden twenty eight seven fifteen Devin Booker last
- 1:00:45game thirty two, four and seven. So I don't think it's really that
- 1:00:50crazy to think that Jen Brown could have a have the better game in terms
- 1:00:53of the price tag than between him and Jason Tatum's I kind of slight prefer
- 1:01:00him. I won't touch on Porzingis right now, just kind of assuming he's
- 1:01:05going to be out. But if he's out, Derek White also sees a
- 1:01:09pretty big usage bump, and he sees an uptick in his his fantasy scoring
- 1:01:14too. And I mean he probably gets the easiest matchup out of all of
- 1:01:19the Celtics starters I would think probably gonna have. I mean they like to
- 1:01:24hide Curry on defense. I think they would probably be Podzimski on Derek White.
- 1:01:30And I don't really know too much about the kids defensive game. I
- 1:01:34know he's so decent, he move his he kind of long, good rebounder.
- 1:01:37Steph is definitely I feel like the matchup you want. I don't know.
- 1:01:40I look at Clay so much different than I used to look at Clay,
- 1:01:43and I wouldn't be surprised if it's Clay and White either. I think
- 1:01:46Pods might play a little. The thing is, they're just so many switches.
- 1:01:50I mean, nowadays in the NBA, it's so hard your match up
- 1:01:52with someone one pick and roll on the next thing, you know, they're
- 1:01:54on different guys. But the rebounding, said, White gets a big you
- 1:01:59said, Usage has to be a rebounding little bump as well without KP.
- 1:02:02He's a good guard rebounder. I know Tatum obviously gets some if he starts
- 1:02:07with someone asked if he's out. If he's out, it's got to be
- 1:02:10Horford that slides in the starting lineup. He's five to nine. He does
- 1:02:14that power forward eligibility, which is nice, but otherwise I think it's this
- 1:02:17this nemes kwaits a guy back to that, I mean, not that he'd
- 1:02:21be owning all that, but back to when he almost was chalk and then
- 1:02:23didn't starts literally had like five fouls and ten minutes fouled outs, and then
- 1:02:29I think, I don't even know would they go any like Brissett or something
- 1:02:34Lamar Stevens where Stevens that he would probably get some run too. I don't
- 1:02:37even see him there, not that you'd want to play them, but I
- 1:02:39think it one hundred percent be Horford. So I guess what would you do?
- 1:02:44Horford at five to nine? I probably treated if I had a power
- 1:02:46forward spot or like I landed on him, and he made stuff work fine,
- 1:02:50but nothing a priority, Yeah, not a priority. I think that
- 1:02:53he would fit a lot of builds at five to nine, and I think
- 1:02:58that he's definitely in place actually decently solid matchup for opposing centers, with the
- 1:03:04Warriors being bottom ten in DVP versus the position this year. But I mean,
- 1:03:09you we know what Al Horford is at this point of his career.
- 1:03:12He's not gonna He's had a couple of pretty pretty solid games, but I
- 1:03:15don't think that he's gonna really like post a like blow you out of the
- 1:03:20water, like had to have a type of DraftKings score. So I think
- 1:03:22that he's fine. There's probably better options than him at that same range.
- 1:03:28Like I mean, obviously I would rather play Trey Murphy different on the screen.
- 1:03:35Now check out the stream yard right there there you go. Yeah,
- 1:03:40I mean it's kind of tough just because there's not a lot of power forwards
- 1:03:45in that same range, Like I wouldn't. I don't think I would play
- 1:03:46Santy over him, maybe Andrew Wiggins over him. Looking at it though,
- 1:03:52like because these games, yeah, like because you get the brook lock in
- 1:03:58the Middleton locking, the Trey Murphy and all that locking. If I had
- 1:04:02the two hundred, i'd probably I'd still prefer Pods, I think if even
- 1:04:05if Horford was starting, but I think i'd prefer Horford to like Eric Gordon,
- 1:04:10Grayson Allen, I mean, Wiggins. I definitely would our projections one
- 1:04:15hundred percent agree to this. Twenty five would be boosted if Tatum's out.
- 1:04:18So I guess, yeah, it poor Zingis is out and I have a
- 1:04:21couple, I'll probably end up again. I'm in meeting some teams. If
- 1:04:26you have like three four spots backload and Porzingis is out, that's I'll probably
- 1:04:30end up with some Horford just because he makes things work in that range.
- 1:04:34Yeah, for sure, But I don't love it. We know what Horford
- 1:04:38is for sure. Yeah, yeah, you know what you're getting out of
- 1:04:41him, I think. Yeah, Warriors side pretty it's kind of been pretty
- 1:04:45easy to break down. I think a lot of the times you're just looking
- 1:04:48to fade them. Just their rotation is so deep right now, they're giving
- 1:04:55end of twelve guys sometimes mid to teens to twenty minutes. So Steph has
- 1:05:00been pretty limited all year. Gets a really tough matchup versus Drew Holliday and
- 1:05:03Derek White. I mean there are two of that backcourt duo is two of
- 1:05:08the better like on ball defenders that they have. So I kind of am
- 1:05:14on the underweight side of Curry just. I mean, he's just been so
- 1:05:16bad lately too, just had his first first game not making a three pointer
- 1:05:21in a something. Yeah, had to be years. Yeah, I would
- 1:05:30much rather go Jow. I would even rather get up to Dame if I
- 1:05:32could. Booker would definitely be ahead of him. Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:05:41I'm not gonna say anybody's wrong for playing him, because he always does
- 1:05:45have the big ceiling upside, but just hasn't really shown it much this year.
- 1:05:49So I would just I'm gonna be underweight on on Curry for sure.
- 1:05:56Clay has actually been playing a lot better lately, three straight games of thirty
- 1:06:00eight draftings points at least, shooting much better. Maybe he's kind of starting
- 1:06:05to find a rhythm. Maybe you want to leave him in your in your
- 1:06:08playerpool. Six point five K could also act as a pivot to the Kelvin
- 1:06:12Johnson Devin Vessel range, And I don't think that it's the craziest thing to
- 1:06:16keep him in there, but yeah, I like Pods the most I think
- 1:06:20on the Warrior side. Yeah, just his minutes have just been really strong,
- 1:06:26and he has, like you said, he's a really solid rebounder.
- 1:06:29I think that he's got a good amount of upside with just with the rebounding
- 1:06:32and if he could get some shots to fall. He's got a pretty solid
- 1:06:35price tag at six point one K. I think he's got some upside to
- 1:06:39it for sure. So I think that he might be my favorite play on
- 1:06:41the Warriors side. Yeah, and I like like the Clay the Pods.
- 1:06:45Stuff that excites you. There is that means you're already saving some spots to
- 1:06:48backload, and it's Chris Paul, It's Porzingis, and it Shade and Sharp
- 1:06:53in that Portland game. So while I like Porzingis, I don't think does
- 1:06:58Crazy or CP three Shadan Sharp News I think is the biggest of the three.
- 1:07:02I would definitely want to sign in the grants that. But if you're
- 1:07:05backloading and you're making the Vasell Calvin pivot which we didn't love too much to
- 1:07:10Clay and you're backloading more, if News does break your way, you can
- 1:07:14have a lot more flexibility. And these guys are gonna be a lot lower
- 1:07:15owned because everyone's jamming that Spurs Milwaukee game, and rightfully so, but gets
- 1:07:20you on a different, different roster construction a bit with some flexibility. So
- 1:07:25I don't mind that he always we rip on him a little bit, but
- 1:07:29man, he does always had that forty to fifty point upside just because he
- 1:07:32can hit all them threes. So what's going on, Sean, Hope Everything's
- 1:07:36going well? That's all four games, I mean, story of this late
- 1:07:41San Antonio Milwaukee. That's where all the value is, especially on the spur
- 1:07:44side center Cowen's Mamu. People are going to go there and there's a lot
- 1:07:48of good pivots. They can get different. Zion will get that injury news
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- 1:08:45as always. Final thoughts my man, No, not much. Think that
- 1:08:49it's a pretty fun slate. Yeah, I mean we'll be breaking down.
- 1:08:55I'll be in discord most of the night, breaking down injury news as it
- 1:08:57comes out, if there's anything big that hits. But yeah, I think
- 1:09:00we did a pretty good job of doing the If then scenarios mentioned a ton
- 1:09:04of pivots in certain price range, I think that people should be pretty set.
- 1:09:09And yeah, it's definitely how we'll be playing it. Good, good
- 1:09:11slate to get away from some of the chalk tonight, I think, yeah,
- 1:09:15and right on cue Porzingis was ruled out there, so we did touch
- 1:09:17on that. If I mean we take a four games an hour and ten
- 1:09:21minutes, Yeah, Porzingis is out al Horford sizes in the starting lineup.
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