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Hutton & Withrow: SEC vs. Big Ten TV Battle, Braves Advance & September Heisman Leaders | Hour 1 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: This is Hutton and Withrow. He's Chad Withrow. I'm Jonathan Hutton.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, chop on, man. Braves win. Bravos advance. And, well,
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  Speaker 1: all is well with the world.
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  Speaker 3: I still say that the whole playoff format, postseason format,
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  Speaker 3: is broken.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That the Braves, again, who were 26 games over. 500,
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  Speaker 3: six games better than the Phillies, had to turn around
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  Speaker 3: after battling the Phillies throughout the month of September in
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  Speaker 3: separate four-game series to make sure they got the division championship,
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  Speaker 3: won the pennant, to then have to turn around and
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  Speaker 3: play the Phillies in a best-of-three is ridiculous. It should
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  Speaker 3: be best-of-five. This is a game that is decided in
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  Speaker 3: more games. I don't like a division champion playing a
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  Speaker 3: three-game series.
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  Speaker 2: But justice prevailed. in this thing. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: The right winner won the game. The division champion found
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  Speaker 3: a way to make it happen. Kudos to my Atlanta Braves,
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  Speaker 3: Ray Kerr, who seven years ago was working at a
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  Speaker 3: 7-11 and working at a movie theater who was out
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  Speaker 3: of baseball completely, did not have the grades to stay
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  Speaker 3: in junior college at the time, was raised in foster
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  Speaker 3: homes and decided, hey, there's one guy who's going to
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  Speaker 3: take a shot on me, shot on me in junior college.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go play for him He parlays that
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  Speaker 3: into going to the Alaskan Frontier League, pitches well enough
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  Speaker 3: to get offered a scholarship hunting by Cumberland University in
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  Speaker 3: my native Wilson County, Tennessee in Lebanon. He was about
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  Speaker 3: to go to a great NAIA program, about to go
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  Speaker 3: to Cumberland, gets a tryout with the Padres and the Mariners,
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  Speaker 3: signs with the Mariners for a $ 2, 000 signing bonus, eventually
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  Speaker 3: gets traded to the Padres. then gets traded to the Braves,
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  Speaker 3: has to undergo Tommy John surgery, spends an entire year
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  Speaker 3: in Florida at the Braves facility trying to recover from
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  Speaker 3: Tommy John.
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  Speaker 2: And fishing every day. He's an avid outdoorsman.
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  Speaker 3: He found that fishing helped his elbow, helped his arm
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  Speaker 3: loosen up as he was doing that every day in
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  Speaker 3: the Florida swamps. And then gets his chance to start
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  Speaker 3: game three, do or die playoff game. And my guy
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  Speaker 3: delivered in that one. I love when he exits the
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  Speaker 3: game in the fourth inning with the tip of the
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  Speaker 3: cap and does the tomahawk chop on the way off
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  Speaker 3: the diamond with a three nothing lead at that point.
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  Speaker 3: and one out and a runner on base. Kudos to
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  Speaker 3: Ray Kerr. Kudos to Chris Sale.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness.
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  Speaker 3: The guy on his throw day decides, hey, I feel
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  Speaker 3: good enough to go, even at his age. A possible
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  Speaker 3: future Hall of Famer, Chris Sale, goes out there in
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  Speaker 3: an electric moment, shuts down Bryce Harper, strikes him out,
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  Speaker 3: and gets an inning and a third. As the Braves
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  Speaker 3: close it out and win it against Philly. Incredible night.
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  Speaker 3: And again, Hutton, justice prevails. This is what should have
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  Speaker 3: happened in this series.
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  Speaker 1: I've been going against my gut feeling recently with Hard Rock.
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  Speaker 1: So like last night, right as we signed off, I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: last week I got screwed on Atlanta going to Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay on Thursday. Cleveland, I'm not touching this game. And
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  Speaker 1: then you sent out the story, which is crazy, about
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  Speaker 1: Ray Kerr. And I'm like, I'm going to bet the Braves.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to bet the Braves just based on the
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  Speaker 1: fact that we're all expecting the Phillies to go yard
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  Speaker 1: with the bullpen game and take advantage of the game three.
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  Speaker 1: I just went the other way just based on the
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  Speaker 1: fact that my gut feeling was, hey, bet the Phillies.
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  Speaker 2: And wouldn't you know it, the Braves came through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I bet the Phillies just because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can't have nice things as a fan.
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  Speaker 2: Also, and this is what's going to happen. But great job.
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  Speaker 3: And Aaron Nola had the two walks and gave up
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  Speaker 3: the home run to Michael Harris in the first, which
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  Speaker 3: was another electric moment on the three-run homer.
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  Speaker 1: Remind me, Chad, when did the pitcher join the club?
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  Speaker 2: So he's been with the team.
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  Speaker 3: He got called up like mid-season, but he was coming
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  Speaker 3: back from Tommy John. So he was in AAA and
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  Speaker 3: then got called up. And he's been with the team
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  Speaker 3: for a few months now. But, I mean, he's been
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  Speaker 3: like an emergency starter before. But he's a middle relief guy.
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  Speaker 3: So this was a brilliant move by Walt Weiss. The
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  Speaker 3: Phillies haven't really seen him. He's got a wicked two-seam
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  Speaker 3: fastball as a lefty. Let's see if he can get
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  Speaker 3: us three to four innings. And he got them into
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  Speaker 3: the fourth with a 3-0 lead. And that was all
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  Speaker 3: she wrote. Because at that point, the Braves could go
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  Speaker 3: to Grant Holmes, who was going to be the starter originally.
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  Speaker 3: But they could go to him for a couple of
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  Speaker 3: innings later. get him out of some jams, and they
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  Speaker 3: go to Dylan Dodd, who's been really good as a
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  Speaker 3: lefty out of the bullpen, and then eventually they get
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  Speaker 3: to Chris Sale after a couple other guys in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 3: So it was a bullpen game and a bullpen win
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  Speaker 3: for the Braves in that one from a pitching standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: Did you say it was the Alaskan Baseball League? I'm
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  Speaker 1: Googling this right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you've got Cape Cod League, which a lot
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  Speaker 3: of big-time college players go and play during the summer.
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  Speaker 3: The Alaskan League, I think, is like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Division I players or big-time high school prospects play it.
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  Speaker 2: From June to August. Yeah. Wood bat.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly what you said. It's high-level competition for
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  Speaker 1: NCAA college players. Founded in 1974, Palmer, Alaska, the premier
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  Speaker 1: amateur collegiate summer baseball league.
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  Speaker 2: And they produced a premier player.
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  Speaker 1: You have the Matsu Miners, the Anchorage Bucks, Anchorage Glacier Pilots,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagle River Chinooks, and the Peninsula Oilers.
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  Speaker 2: They're your teams.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Peninsula Oilers was the team you played on.
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  Speaker 3: There's a great profile in the New York Times. The Athletic,
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  Speaker 3: I guess, that's owned by the New York Times. It
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  Speaker 3: always pops up differently. Every time I get one of
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  Speaker 3: those stories, it goes to the New York Times page
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  Speaker 3: on it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's The Athletic that did it.
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  Speaker 3: But anyways, great profile of Ray Kerr from earlier this
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  Speaker 3: season where they interviewed him during that Dodgers series that
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  Speaker 3: we watched on the way back from Birmingham where the
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  Speaker 3: Braves swept the Dodgers late in the year, and they
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  Speaker 3: were talking to Ray Kerr, and he was looking across
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  Speaker 3: the diamond at Max Muncy, For the Dodgers, that was
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  Speaker 3: his first career strikeout when he entered the game in
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  Speaker 3: relief for the Padres at one point. That was 2023,
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  Speaker 3: I think, was when he got his start. But it's
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  Speaker 3: an incredible story. Baseball has a lot of stories like
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  Speaker 3: that of guys who just bat around the minors and
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  Speaker 3: make it happen.
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  Speaker 1: I would say, what's the equivalent of that in the NFL?
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  Speaker 1: Is it like Mark Mariani or something? He's a draft pick.
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  Speaker 2: Kurt Warner. Kurt Warner, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Kurt Warner's the ultimate. Underdog story, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the Arena Football League.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 3: Eventually gets his shit. Now, Ray Kerr's not, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl quarterback. And I don't know that he's ever
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  Speaker 3: going to be a starter for the Braves.
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  Speaker 2: But what a path. It was a great one-night story.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool.
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  Speaker 3: And a guy that hopefully can hang around and pitch
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  Speaker 3: in the majors for a bunch of more years.
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  Speaker 1: And what is– it's just something about baseball where I
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  Speaker 1: always learn something new every single season. Like, I had
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  Speaker 1: no idea this Anchorage-Alaska league was– like, Barry Bonds played
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  Speaker 1: in this league. I'm looking– I'm just going through the
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  Speaker 1: former players. It's just crazy. Why Alaska? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Well, maybe we should go at some point. Is that
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  Speaker 3: just the time of year where it's daylight throughout? Like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's dark part of the year.
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  Speaker 2: All the time.
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  Speaker 3: Is it daylight the entire time it could be part
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  Speaker 3: of it? Brooks lets us know, and he's right. It
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  Speaker 3: was the first winner-take-all series win for the Braves in
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  Speaker 3: 30 years. 1996 NLCS was the last winner-take-all game. deciding
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  Speaker 3: game for either team that the Braves won, and they
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  Speaker 3: got it done last night.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it.
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  Speaker 3: We've also got people in the chat saying the NBC
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  Speaker 3: broadcast and Joey Votto was terrible. I did, as it
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  Speaker 3: went along, got to like John Kruk and the dynamic
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  Speaker 3: with him and CJ Nikowski a lot because they had
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  Speaker 3: the Braves color commentator and then Kruk. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you heard it, but when Grant Holmes entered
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  Speaker 3: the game, who looks like Kenny Powers– The dude's got
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  Speaker 3: long curly locks and a mustache.
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  Speaker 2: It looks ridiculous. I am a real American.
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  Speaker 3: Well, uh, Nick Kowski turns to Kruk and says, you know, Kruk, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't want to speak for you, but
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  Speaker 3: looking at his hair and mustache, he'd fit in great
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  Speaker 3: with those early nineties Phillies teams with Lenny Dykstra and
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  Speaker 3: Kruk as, as calm as can be goes, well, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to out anybody here, but does he like
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  Speaker 3: to party? And, uh, And CJ said, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: only thing that parties with him is the hair and
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  Speaker 3: the mustache. He's actually a pretty straight-laced guy. And he's like, well,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that he'd fit in with us then
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  Speaker 3: on those Phillies teams. Really, really funny.
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  Speaker 2: Joey Votto.
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  Speaker 3: I got to hit this, though. Joey Votto. So I
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  Speaker 3: take my daughter to her practice. We're driving back. I've
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  Speaker 3: got YouTube TV on. I've got the broadcast on my
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  Speaker 3: speaker in my car. And I hear right before the Aussie.
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  Speaker 3: Albies two run bomb, they go to Joey Votto and
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  Speaker 3: he says, you know, I'm going to say this right now, guys,
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  Speaker 3: the way Zach Wheeler's throwing right now, the Braves aren't
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  Speaker 3: going to score another run this game. So the Phillies
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  Speaker 3: are right there in it. This is the fifth inning.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's only a three run game. They still
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  Speaker 3: got to go through Schwarber and Harper and multiple more times.
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  Speaker 3: And the way Zach Wheeler's thrown, they're not going to
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  Speaker 3: score another run. I mean, two batters later, it's a
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  Speaker 3: two-run homer by Ozzie Albies. But I'm thinking that's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit too much of a stretch in the prediction
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  Speaker 3: market of a guy that's calling the game to say
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  Speaker 3: that Zach Wheeler's not giving up another run this game.
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  Speaker 3: That was a pretty wild prediction. I mean, that's a
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  Speaker 3: four-leg parlay he just gave.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But there was another one. I think it was Votto
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  Speaker 3: again early on in game one. Or no, it may
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  Speaker 3: have been Kruk, too. He's like, well, Philly's just won.
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  Speaker 3: They're up 1-0 in the first. And it shows these
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  Speaker 3: playoff games. The Phillies score first. They don't lose in
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs, and they score first, I'm thinking. And the
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  Speaker 3: Braves end up winning that game, too. But I'm like, man, that's– Boy, look,
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  Speaker 3: I get doom and gloom with my teams at times.
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  Speaker 3: You probably heard that yesterday with the Braves.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. But, I mean, come on. Like, the game
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  Speaker 2: just started. It's 1-0. Game's already over. That was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, if Nashville gets a baseball team, will you remain
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  Speaker 1: a Braves fan?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no leaving. This blood runs Braves red and blue.
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  Speaker 3: There's no leaving the team.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious about that because I grew up watching the
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  Speaker 1: Braves a lot on TBS.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: With college, I just kind of stopped watching Pete Van
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  Speaker 1: Weerden and all of them. But that's the team I
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  Speaker 1: would be. I watch all the time. And then I
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  Speaker 1: became an Orioles fan, so there's nothing to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, I think that I would want Nashville to
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  Speaker 3: get an American League team for that very reason.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 3: Because I still would be a Braves fan. I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to be a fan of whoever Nashville gets also.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And follow them and hope that they do well.
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  Speaker 2: But that's the beauty of baseball.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, unless you're in the same division with that team,
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  Speaker 3: you could have an American League team and a National
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  Speaker 3: League team, and they're not going to cross paths– very
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  Speaker 3: often in meaningful series. But if you're in the same division,
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  Speaker 3: that would be a problem if, let's say, the Braves
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  Speaker 3: got the Miami Marlins, you know, or the National got
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  Speaker 3: the Miami Marlins to move here, then you're in the
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  Speaker 3: same division with the Braves.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't enjoy that.
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  Speaker 1: Because we always assumed the Rays would be the team
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  Speaker 1: to move, and that was the AL, right? So, it
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  Speaker 1: makes sense, though, to have this market in the NL,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just based on traveling and stuff like that, but.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you. I understand why it would be the
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  Speaker 2: American League allegiance there.
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  Speaker 3: The way the league works now with their scheduling formula,
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  Speaker 3: everybody plays everybody. It's not as rigid about National League
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  Speaker 3: and American League. You still play your division more, but
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  Speaker 3: not as much as you did five years ago. It's
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  Speaker 3: really just about who are you competing with for a
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  Speaker 3: pennant or in positioning in your own division. Just stay
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  Speaker 3: out of the NL East. That would be my advice
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  Speaker 3: to the Nashville ownership group. They're not going to have
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  Speaker 3: a say. But my hope is AL East. I'd love
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  Speaker 3: to see Red Sox, Yankees, all those teams would be great.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like the old AFC Central division that the
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  Speaker 1: Oilers slash Titans were in with Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and the
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  Speaker 1: lot there. When we come back, we're discussing the SEC
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  Speaker 1: dominance in regards to the television, the agreements, the media rights,
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  Speaker 1: the money, the ratings. and what that means for the
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  Speaker 1: Big Ten. Because the awful announcing has got a story,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, detailing how they're not in panic mode, but
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  Speaker 1: they are urgent about trying to figure out what to
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  Speaker 1: do with their broadcast compared to what the SEC and
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  Speaker 1: the ESPN is doing. We have our September Heisman list.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up, Chad.
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  Speaker 1: Plus, Engel Martin is going to join us. And I
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  Speaker 1: want to promote this because this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a fascinating chat with him. Chad, you've got CPA, Christ
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  Speaker 1: Presbyterian Academy, he's the head coach. He wrote a piece
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  Speaker 1: in the Tennessean today, and it details why it's the
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  Speaker 1: right move for CPA to go independent outside of the TSSAA.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to figure this out with him, because...
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  Speaker 1: He details the 99% of the players that are just
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  Speaker 1: going to play high school football.
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  Speaker 2: He was the 1%, you know, whenever he played.
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  Speaker 1: NBA, Florida, Furman, drafted by the Packers, backed up Brett
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  Speaker 1: Favre and Aaron Rodgers. Like, I'm fascinated to get his
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  Speaker 1: take on exactly why this is the solution. And maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's just the current solution. But it's crazy, man. This
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  Speaker 1: is like college football finding high school athletics.
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  Speaker 2: It is a national story.
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  Speaker 3: This is a localized story in the state of Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: that absolutely applies to everyone, everywhere in high school sports.
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  Speaker 3: And philosophically, what's high school football? What is the purpose
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  Speaker 3: of it? What are we doing with it? And I
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  Speaker 3: think CPA and Engel, and I don't want to steal
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  Speaker 3: words from them, we'll talk to them about it, they
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  Speaker 3: just don't believe that they want to have, everybody have
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  Speaker 3: an opportunity within their program, within high school football, to
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  Speaker 3: have that experience, even if you're not the 1% that's
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  Speaker 3: going to get a chance to go on and play
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  Speaker 3: college ball, play in the NFL. But the way the
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  Speaker 3: game works now, we're tailoring it more to the 1%.
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  Speaker 3: And this is all about Baylor. and Macaulay and what's
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  Speaker 3: happening in that region, that classification, that these schools are
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  Speaker 3: angry that, you know, Baylor's bringing in a DGG from
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  Speaker 3: Canada and all these players from all over the place
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  Speaker 3: to play. I've always thought too, if you're someone who's
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of money and you're a third, you're
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  Speaker 3: a legacy Baylor student and you're sending your son to
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  Speaker 3: Baylor and he never gets to play high school football,
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  Speaker 3: he's just on the team because they've recruited over him
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• 16:13
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  Speaker 3: I wonder how that sits with those parents. Look, we're
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  Speaker 1: Chad, the SEC doesn't just have higher ratings. They're lapping
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten and the television deal, or any other network,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: for that matter, with ESPN and what ABC's doing. When
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you pointed this out, you said that like, wow. We're
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: doubling the spread in some of these games.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, they're tripling the numbers. It's not even close. Yeah,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and look, this is a one-week snapshot. Yeah, sure. This
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: is a trend now. Yes. This is most of the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: week so far in college football.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Texas and Tennessee, this was the most watched game in
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: a decade on ESPN or ABC at 11 a.m.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Central Time.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And let me point out, like the 11 a.m., that's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: the big noon kickoff window, and that's the average.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That's not the peak. on the numbers, right? Yeah.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: And your big noon kickoff game was Illinois and Ohio State.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: This is the trend that I'm seeing more than anything else.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Look at these teams that played. Texas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Florida,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: A & M, LSU. The A & M, LSU game
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: was a blowout. didn't think Florida-Ole Miss was going to
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: be much of a blowout, but Florida handled that game.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: Texas-Tennessee was a great game, a three-point game that ended
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: with Tennessee throwing into the end zone to win the game.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Illinois-Ohio State. I mean, the league is too top-heavy. This
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: is the competitive issue.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: With the conference right now. Oregon-USC was fine. That was
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: a good matchup. That game came way closer to the
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: SEC than anything else.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: But Iowa-Michigan, while it was a.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Good game, I mean, those two teams can be pretty
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: boring for television viewers at times, even though Michigan, because
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: of that brand, is going to bring in a lot
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: of eyeballs. Hutton, right now the Big Ten makes more
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: money than the SEC off their media rights package. The
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: concern for the Big Ten would be this won't last forever.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: when everybody sees these numbers. And the seesaw of this
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: is going to swing back in favor of the SEC
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: whenever they sign their next deal.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, so they have some brands. They've
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: got Oregon, they've got USC, as you see here. But
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: when those teams travel east, they're playing earlier in the day.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And it's practically Ohio State on at big noon all
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the time. Big noon kickoff doesn't really go many places
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: around the conference. You know, they're mainly at the shoe
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: for the most part. I think that's the other quality
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: with the SEC is all the brands. And, yes, ESPN
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: is going to go to the best games.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: They should.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And, you know, that's normally an SEC matchup or an
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: SEC team. And there's a vibe to it. There's more
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of a sense of a huge, massive matchup, you know.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: And it's not just that. It's the depth.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: Of games because Fox is a good example of this.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Fox seems content with, we'll take a decent Friday night
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: game and get a good number on a Friday night
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: with the game. But tonight is going to be Penn
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: state at Northwestern. As an example, a week ago, it
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: was Indiana Northwestern. We'll take that decent Friday night rating.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: We'll get a good rating on Saturdays on big noon.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: We will just bloat our numbers with the Ohio state
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Michigan game at the end of the year.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Like they always do.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: That's going to do so well that it's going to
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: make the whole package look better than it actually is.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Because then when you get Ohio State-Michigan, you also get
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Illinois-Ohio State, which is a blowout. The big loser in
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: this is CBS, who had the prime slot for SEC games.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: When you heard that music strike up, you knew this
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: is the game of the week in the SEC. And instead,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: now they've got a collection of terrible games at 230.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Now, this is the test, Hutton. This is a test.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: They do not have a terrible game this week. The
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: 230 CBS Big Ten game is Iowa-Ohio State. This is
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the ESPN College Game Day game. This is the game
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: of the week, okay? How does that game perform against Florida-Missouri?
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Another top 25 matchup. That's their competition on ABC.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: At that time.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: I think Ohio State-Iowa will do better. Maybe far better
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: than that game. But if it's even close between those two...
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: then you're starting.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: To see an issue because that's.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: A premier game for the conference. And it's a 14-point spread, right?
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's another thing.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: 14 and a half.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this game close is another factor in this. Chad,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: and here's to that point. Coming up October 17th, the
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: matchups that day is insane. Florida and Texas, Auburn and Georgia.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: You have, let's see, Alabama-Tennessee is that day, I believe.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Missouri and Ole Miss. Mississippi State-LSU. I mean, you keep
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: on going. Oklahoma plays Kentucky. Meanwhile, you have Notre Dame-BYU.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Florida State-Miami is that day as well. It's going to
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: be an incredible day in football. But I'm looking, like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Oregon plays Nebraska. The depth is really.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: You've got Ohio State-Michigan that day, which is huge. So
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Ohio State– I'm looking at the comparison. Ohio State at
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Michigan is going to be gigantic. So the Big Ten
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: will have maybe the biggest game of the day on
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: that one. Again, it's the depth of it. Penn State-Michigan's fine.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: But then you get Rutgers-Maryland, Northwestern-Michigan State, Wisconsin-UCLA. You get
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: a collection of other games that just don't really matter.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Their Friday night game that week is Washington-Purdue. Washington at Purdue.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: It's just– It's the depth. It's the quality depth of
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the SEC that I keep going back to that Big
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Ten people freaking hate hearing about.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But it's true.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: There's just so many more matchups that matter in that conference.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Here's also what matters.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Geography.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: In the SEC, everything makes sense because every SEC state
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: touches another SEC state. When I see Washington-Purdue on a
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Friday night, I want to induce vomiting.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Thinking about watching that game.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I am so happy that on that weekend, we will
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: actually be in Knoxville getting ready for Tennessee and Alabama.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: The other problem is I do want to watch Oregon
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: and Ohio State or Oregon-Indiana, but they don't play every year.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: It just depends on the schedule. There's too many teams
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to make the schedule work out that way. It's so
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: lopsided one way or the other where you don't really
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: know year to year if you're going to get these
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: big matchups. That's the other problem with the conference. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: don't know how you combat it, really. I mean, I
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: know that the column was on, like, the strategy behind
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: what to do in noticing this trend. I don't know
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: how you stop it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: You don't.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing you can do other than, you know,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: tell Illinois and Northwestern to be nationally relevant.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right. They need a Greg Sankey speech for basketball.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean, I don't know what Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue–
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Washington could, I guess, theoretically. UCLA, maybe they found a
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: coach now, and they're going to be nationally relevant and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: help out. But, I mean, look, in these conferences, everybody
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: can't be good. In the SEC, everyone's not good. It's
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: just you get so many teams that people care about
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: that are compelling, and it's top to bottom.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: It's way better in the SEC.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I like that awful announcing point of this out because–
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: there's always this immediate backlash to anyone that wants to
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: prop up the SEC.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Right. And I get it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of SEC propagandists out there when it
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: comes to these things, and they want to fight against that. But, look,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: just reality is reality in terms of what people want
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: to watch. And people want to watch the SEC more
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: than the Big Ten right now, even though the Big
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Ten's been winning the national titles.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Well, and, you know, you see the ranking next to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the names. You know, the games– are important. There's a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: lot at stake. They built it up where there is
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: something on the line every week is what you feel like.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: That is where I'll cry foul if I'm the other
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: conferences is the ranking system is ridiculous. In terms of
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: how we start in the preseason and everybody's going to
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: vote for the SEC teams because that's the most coverage
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: and that's what we know more about.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: There should be more movement than what we see. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you can start it wherever you want.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But as the season really gets going, you have to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: move teams around. Clay gets a lot of feedback for that.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: But that's the way he goes about it. But see,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think the voters, Chad, are watching a lot
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of these games. Because a lot of them cover a team.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: And if they're at a game, that is their day.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Is covering that team and that beat. Meanwhile, Clay's watching
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: all the games. We're watching games. There's a lot of
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people that sit around and watch games in the media
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that aren't voting. I think that's another issue because you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: don't really move teams around if you don't watch the games.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: You just see a one-point loss or a two-point loss,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: so to speak.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I am not for an AI computer algorithm takeover in
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: most aspects of life.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: But you know where I am for it? AP polls.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want humans to be involved in it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: But for the reason you're saying, there's no possible way
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: you could see every team and know about every single
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: team if you're covering one team. So there has to be,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: just like the old BCS, there is a computer model
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: algorithm of strength of schedule mixed with offensive, defensive, special
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: teams performance mixed with recruiting rankings. and star players, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: NFL draft prospects. You could blend all these together. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: guarantee you someone in Stanford right now has that model,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: and we could more properly rank 1 through 25 so
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: we could stop everyone else from bitching about it because
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: of SEC bias.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I think for the most part it would be pretty accurate,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but the problem is someone would tinker with the qualified
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: players aspects of what goes into this algorithm.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: To produce your top 25.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You know, there's always different additions, subtractions, what the focus
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: is now versus over here, strength of schedule, all that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Like there's too much of a gray area with what, like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if the average fan can really dive
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: in to what the college football playoff committee is looking at,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you know, whenever they're, I think we view it way
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: different than what's in front of them with what they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: told to view.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: It's just, it's, there's a lot that we don't realize
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that are within the guidelines of what they're supposed to do,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I guess. And then at the committee too, like at like... teachers,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: professors on this?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't want to hear about SEC bias anymore.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: So just let a computer decide. The computer's not biased.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: AI won't be biased with it. Have an algorithm in
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: place that here are the factors. Everybody can see what
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: they are. You put all the teams in that system,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and then you spit out a top 25. I don't
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: like preseason polls, but even if you want to do
• 30:02
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• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Here's who they got in the transfer portal. We're going
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: to take their stats and what they did at their
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: previous school. We're going to apply it to the new school.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: We're going to put all this into one system. and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: we're going to spit out a new top 25, I
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: think that would.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Solve a lot of this.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I don't want that picking the playoff teams, but in
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: terms of a running meter of where teams are ranked,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: and hell, don't stop it there. I want to see
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: if Vanderbilt is ranked 33rd or 45th nationally. Go through
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the entire FBS. Show me where Central Michigan's ranked in
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the FBS. I'd like to see one through the very
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: end of college football and where teams rank.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Would this algorithm, though, Chad, realize that Michigan screwed over?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: They got the extra second they shouldn't have. Because I
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: think the voter would know.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: But yes, I think, of course, you would factor in
• 31:02
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• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Penalties.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Look, you could get this computer and algorithm to do
• 31:07
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• 31:08
  Speaker 2: And what about my idea? What if everybody had a
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: number next to them?
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: What if instead of unranked versus 17th Auburn versus Tennessee,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: it was 29 versus.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: 17 this week is what appeared on the screen.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Everyone's got a ranking next to them, one through 122
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: or however many teams.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Are in FBS right now. I think that'd be pretty cool.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: There would be a huge gap in the Big Ten.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I know that. In their week-to-week matchups. Purdue would be
• 31:33
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• 33:09
  Speaker 1: we were talking earlier in the week, like looking back
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: on the first month of the college football season, where
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: we would be placing votes for our, for Heisman. If
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we had one, uh, the September Heisman with honey with
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: row has arrived. And, uh, Chad, I, I don't think
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: there's a big debate here based on the result of
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: last week, uh, with, uh, what happened with Ole Miss
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: after the big win. Um, We've got our Heisman list
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: with Kamario Taylor. I mean, he's the best quarterback right
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: now in college football, completing like 70% of his passes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: over 1,100 passing yards so far, 14 touchdowns, only two interceptions,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: and Mississippi State is going into a big game against
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Alabama where if they get this one, everybody's going to
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: be on board with this dude.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and what is a ranking without recency bias? And
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: certainly there is some recency bias here. If we did
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: this two weeks ago after that performance against LSU in
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: the National Spotlight, we'd probably have Trinidad Chambliss at No. 1. No.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: 1 in the arch would be there based on the comeback. Yep,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and then he goes to Florida, and he doesn't look
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: quite as good. And Kamara Taylor's coming off a great performance, 360,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: three touchdowns in that win over Missouri this past week.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: So we're going Kamario Taylor this week. Look, this is
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: going to change.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: We're going to do this each month. We'll have a
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: September Heisman. We'll have an October Heisman. Then by the
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: end of November, we'll grant our Heisman Trophy vote and
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: show you what we'd go with for the entire season.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: But right now, Kamario Taylor, who's going to get a
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: gigantic test this upcoming weekend against Alabama, I don't think
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of controversy in saying that he's the
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: guy with what he's done statistically and how he can
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: do it with his arm or his legs.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Now, legitimately.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith can win the award as a non-quarterback. I mean,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: he already owns Ohio State's career receiving yardage record. But,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's got, what, 12 passes, four touchdowns in
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: last week's game. The dude's unstoppable. It's just another Ohio
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: State wide receiver that is dominant. And he was the
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: chosen one, you know? Like, he's put up there. Trinidad
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Chambliss has been very good. But then there's Mensah, right?
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: That's one to watch, man. Miami hasn't really played to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the talent level for evaluating who they are, where they are.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I will say this week is probably a start to that.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But he could catch fire, too, and put up some
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: big numbers based on competition.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Miami's best win so far is Wake Forest. And they
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: beat them by 13 at the time. We thought, boy,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: that wasn't a great performance by Miami. But then Wake
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: Forest goes to Louisville. and wins and looks way better.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: So look, Miami is going to get tested. I think
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: in this game at Clemson, we'll talk about top 10
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: games coming up and where that ranks.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: But it's just, it's so hard to evaluate the ACC
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: right now, because it does feel like it's Miami, big
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: drop off everybody else. And Miami is just playing a
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: bunch of exhibition games up until they get to the
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: college football playoff, which feels inevitable at this point. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: when you're paying a quarterback, the way they paid a
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: quarterback a year ago with Carson Beck, now with Darian
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Mensah to bring in that big transfer, this is the
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: expectation at Miami now with what they're spending in the portal,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: and Darian Mensah is delivering on those expectations. The guy
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: that I'm fascinated with is Jaden Ball. That's the one
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: that for a running back to be in this one,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: I think he's got a chance to do it the
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: way Buster Faulkner and that Florida offense, the way they
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: run the football.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: He leads the nation in.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Touchdowns, 11 already, 600 yards rushing, 142 against Ole Miss. Look, Florida, though,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not buying in completely on them yet.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: I feel like if you can find a defense that
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: stops the run, you're going to beat them. Maybe just
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: control the run game would be a better way to
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: phrase that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: But no one stopped him yet. You're right.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: He's deserving of being mentioned here. He would be in
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: New York on my vote, for sure. And then there's
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: our coach, our top coaches. Now, I'm on board with
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Summerall at number one. What he has delivered to that
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: program is the energy they have lacked for seasons. And
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: that is for real. They're on board with him. He's
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: all in. He's the coach that's got the chip on
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: his shoulder that can deliver results. Well done to him.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And then Golding winning the matchup over Kiffin. How can
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you not automatically think of him there?
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's one that kind of feels like the tug-at-the-heartstrings
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: one for beating Kiffin because most of America hates Lane Kiffin,
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: hates LSU and what they've done now. especially with trying
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: to bring in the NFL guys. But I love Golding. Golding,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: to me, seems like that dude that most every program
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: wants that's just all about ball, and he's a good
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: relationship builder also. He can kind of block out the
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: noise and not be about all that stuff too.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, Golding's definitely going to be out there. How
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: about Kirk Ferentz? Yeah.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk about the model of
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: consistency as a head coach and how long he's been
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: in the program. I'm looking at guys now, and I'm
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: thinking you stay one place– six to eight years, and
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: that's an eternity, and things start to wear thin at places,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: and other programs in your conference catch up to you,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: and you better be able to adapt, and then it's
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: hard to sustain things over that period of time, and
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: you look at Kirk Ferentz, who took over, I think,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: in 1999 as the head coach at Iowa, a remarkable
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: run for him.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Will Stein's deserving, so well done, Jeff Levy,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know, like that's the that's the surprise. Kentucky's been a,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: been a surprise, uh, with just the new coaches, the
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: new coaches, Chad, that jump out to me on this list.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: That's, that's the surprise to this point.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Um, and I mean, the team we're not talking about
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: is Georgia. We never mentioned Georgia in our discussions. Uh,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I bring that up because Kirby smart, still Kirby Smarty
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: um I've got a feeling man that he he's not
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: going to forget the Jared Curtis stuff they're out for
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: blood this week what do you do you agree yes
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: and uh I I need to go check the distinction
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the injury distinction is for Curtis
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: if that's changed from questionable from Wednesdays to Thursdays.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: So we'll go look that up. Okay, yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: And see if he still lists as questionable. But, I mean,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: at this point, he was questionable. I don't even know
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: if he's playing in this game against Georgia, which may
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: be a savior for Jared Curtis going into Athens and
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: playing this game. Hey, shout out to a guy's name
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: that I don't even know how to pronounce.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: But if we're looking for a group of five candidate
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: to be in this top five coaches of September, how
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: about Joe Harasmiak of UMass?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: As I like to pronounce it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: UMass is 4-0, and they were predicted to be maybe
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the worst team in FBS. They go to Rutgers and
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: win easily on that opening night of college football on
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: the Thursday, and now here they are at 4-0 on
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: the season. Pretty incredible. They're in the MAAC, and yeah,
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: they have won. Rutgers 37-21, and since then they have
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: beaten three nobodies, but still. They're beating them easily, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: they're 4-0. So Joe Harasmiak, who I know was a
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Greg Sciano. You can get the word ass in that one. Harasmiak.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: That's how I'm pronouncing it. I don't even know if
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: that's right. But he coached for Greg Sciano at Rutgers, too,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: which makes it all the more crazy that they went
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: to Rutgers and won.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: So, Clark, I'm looking up the injury report. Here's Clark
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Lee's quote after yesterday's practice.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I'm hopeful.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I think every day he's felt a little better. He's
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: done a little more in practice, so certainly not ruling
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: him out. Hopefully the next 48 hours we see improvement
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: where he feels comfortable to go out there and play,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: but he's our starting quarterback.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I take that as he's starting.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Brooks Carter, who does a lot of research and graphics
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: for us, He's in the YouTube chat right now. He
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: informs us Yamass came into the season on a 16-game
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: losing streak, which makes it even crazier. They're 4-0 right now.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: And what I've asked Brooks to tell me is if
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I'm pronouncing the name right.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: It's somebody. Help me. Help me if it's Harassmiak, Harassimiak.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Where is the.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Emphasis in this name? Country of origin. If we're doing
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: a spelling bee, I'd like to know that too. It's
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: spelled H-R-A-S-Y-M-I-A-K.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, man. I'm saying Harassmiak. Is it Harassimiak? I don't know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: He just probably goes by Joey H to his friends.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: If this were Auburn, they would make it very clear
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: how to pronounce this dude's name because Auburn's got the
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: punter last name Cock, and it's spelled K-A-A-K.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: They wanted everyone to know.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: That it was, in fact, yes, pronounced exactly the way
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: that you would say it for Gamecocks or anything else
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you wanted to throw in there. Mike Keith, a good
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: friend of ours, Chad, mentored to many and to me.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I was joking with him about this. If this guy
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: comes on to punt, he will mention something that will
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: be funny.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is Cocktober. Also here with us.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: It's going to be a big month for Hudson. JT
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: in the chat says, UMass, hashtag not ass. And Mark says,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: UMass versus IS. That would be a good game. Hey,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Titans versus UMass right now is one that I might watch. UMass,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: we've talked about this before. It's a program I never
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: think about, ever. Programs, especially some that have had some success,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: like John Calipari. UMass teams with Marcus Camby and others
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: that went to a Final Four. I'm pretty sure Dr.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: J played at UMass also, so he's a UMass grad,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: but that's just not a program that I often think
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: about being in the middle of nowhere in Massachusetts. So
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: UMass football, I don't know how many UMass fans there are,
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: but if you're a fan of UMass, then you're happy
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: right now with your start.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Hey, quick break, and then we have... Oh, we actually...
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: What time is Eagle coming on officially? He's coming on.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: We've got college football top ten games coming up. Okay.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I've got. I left that out of my rundown.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: It's my bad.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: We have that plus Profit Like It's Hot a little
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: bit later. Chad, I think you're going to like mine.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I think you're going to be all aboard to rake
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it in this weekend. We have the top ten college
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: football games of the week in courtesy of Chad Withrow.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Straight ahead here on How to Do Withrow.