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Ernie LaBrecque- William & Mary: Americas First Masonic College Part 1 · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings are going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: share with other people. What is going on, sir, Hawaii?
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  Speaker 3: And I appreciate it. Thank you for letting me join
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  Speaker 3: you guys. It's always a pleasure to be over here,
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  Speaker 3: be with like minded people. Best author of Journey through
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  Speaker 2: That's all. That's all I like to do.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care about anything else, but just sharing exactly
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  Speaker 3: what I've read.
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  Speaker 4: That's awesome, man, Thank you very much. And we got
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  Speaker 4: Tim Constantine with us tonight. What is going on so well?
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  Speaker 1: It's up man.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm too.
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  Speaker 6: My show is sixth Censory Podcasts. You can find me
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  Speaker 6: on Spotify, Apple YouTube. Hello, Ernie, that was getting guy.
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  Speaker 6: I was getting good man. I'm happy to hear. Happy
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  Speaker 6: to be here and hear what you gotta say for real, Nick,
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  Speaker 6: thanks for having me, but happy to.
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  Speaker 4: Be here of course. Always love having you on, sir.
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  Speaker 4: And finally, to the guest himself, we got Ernie. What
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  Speaker 4: is going on sir? Please?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 4: First off, I'd like to let people know. He actually
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  Speaker 4: reached out to me. He was a listener of the
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  Speaker 4: show and he hit me up and he said that
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  Speaker 4: me and Headless we're talking about something and it was
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  Speaker 4: blowing his mind and he's got stuff to add to it.
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  Speaker 4: So here we are. We got Ernie. Please, sir, let
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  Speaker 4: everybody know about your show where they can find all
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  Speaker 4: your amazing work. Cool.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm Ernie. Me and I usually have a co host, Daniel.
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  Speaker 7: We do Virginia's for Conspiracy Lovers podcast. You can find
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  Speaker 7: it on everywhere podcasts are. And then we have a
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  Speaker 7: YouTube channel because I try to do as much as
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  Speaker 7: much visual kind of aids as possible. And it is
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  Speaker 7: va con Lover's podcast, which I didn't realize sounded like
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  Speaker 7: a bunch of dudes who were into like Virginia Convicts
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  Speaker 7: until after the thing was already made. But it's up
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  Speaker 7: there now, so va con podcasts on YouTube. And yeah,
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  Speaker 7: born and raised in Williamsburg, Virginia and been into conspiracies
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  Speaker 7: and stuff for a long time and then stumbled upon
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  Speaker 7: the fact that I grew up in the town that
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  Speaker 7: is like the basis for some of the biggest conspiracies
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  Speaker 7: and hidden history ever, and just started diving into it
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  Speaker 7: and found some really cool stuff that I've been able
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  Speaker 7: to bring to a couple like professionals and they were like, yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 7: this is real stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And so that, you know, encouraged me to keep going.
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  Speaker 7: And we started the Virginia's for Conspiracy Lovers podcast because
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  Speaker 7: I started noticing all these regional kind of conspiracy podcast
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  Speaker 7: pop up and there was nobody really like covering Virginia stuff.
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  Speaker 7: And when you talk about Virginia, you got everything from
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  Speaker 7: deep state to conspiracy to hidden history to uh, you know,
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  Speaker 7: it runs the gamut with the amount of military and
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  Speaker 7: defense spending and all that stuff and uh into uh like.
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  Speaker 5: Hitting history and whatnot. So yeah, that's me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember you were talking about a whole bunch
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  Speaker 4: of shit before we even started the show. But like
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  Speaker 4: I had said, I remember when I was driving through
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  Speaker 4: Virginia before I got through North Carolina, I was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of shady fucking companies that just Trump
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  Speaker 4: passed on like one side of the road too. I
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  Speaker 4: was like, what the fuck.
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  Speaker 7: That's kind of the trip through Virginia. If you come
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  Speaker 7: in from the west, you hit a lot of like
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  Speaker 7: crazy uh, you know Mountain Appalachian towns that have their
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  Speaker 7: own awesome you know, folk magic history and old like
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  Speaker 7: kind of Hatfield McCoy like stories and coal miner like
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  Speaker 7: war stories. And then as you head further east, you
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  Speaker 7: run into the Colonial area where I'm I'm coming from.
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  Speaker 7: And then if you come from the north down through
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  Speaker 7: d C, you've got the deep state and deep tech.
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  Speaker 4: And oh yeah, that was a ship I was passing.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he lost me. He lost me at West Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: I see wrong turn too many times and go through
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  Speaker 3: that area.
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  Speaker 7: You state of the parkways, you're usually pretty safe from
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  Speaker 7: West Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: I don't get out though. Make sure you got enough
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  Speaker 5: gas to get through the state.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, gas oil transmission.
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  Speaker 5: Fluence everything you could get a cost.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a person, I'm actually living in Old Virginia. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen the maps of Virginia back
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  Speaker 1: when they first decided it was going to be a
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  Speaker 1: state that went all the way out. It's like the
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  Speaker 1: whole city.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like the whole thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: It went all the way up the main Yeah, and
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  Speaker 7: in sixteen oh seven and went all the way through
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  Speaker 7: until they came over and started the Massachusetts Bay or
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  Speaker 7: the Plymouth Colony. It went up to Canada and went
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  Speaker 7: up to Nova Scotia, which is interesting and what I'm
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  Speaker 7: going to talk about.
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  Speaker 6: It's got to be got to be something going on
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  Speaker 6: special with the land itself for them to pick that
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  Speaker 6: through the capital there. I think that they were shoot
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  Speaker 6: or looking at other locations and they settled upon what
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  Speaker 6: would become Washington, d C. But I think they were
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  Speaker 6: looking at places in Ohio because and I'm talking about
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  Speaker 6: Washington and Henry Knox and some of those guys, they
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  Speaker 6: were fascinated with like the mounds, yeah, and the remnants
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  Speaker 6: of the ancient civilizations there. And they liked Cincinnati because
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  Speaker 6: it had seven hills like Rome. So there's that Rome connection.
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  Speaker 6: But for some reason they didn't go with Ohio. They
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  Speaker 6: went with Virginia. So I know it's got to be
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  Speaker 6: something potent there. Wellminstill like ancient civilizations.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Well, and Richmond our state capitol.
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  Speaker 7: Richmond, that is a land of seven hills as well,
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  Speaker 7: and that's where the state capitol is. And they say
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  Speaker 7: that Williamsburg had possibly had mounds too, but that town
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  Speaker 7: is so populated and so like kind of you know,
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  Speaker 7: been bulldozed over so many times over the years. Like
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  Speaker 7: any real Williamsburg history, you really got to dig for it.
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  Speaker 5: It seems crazy.
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  Speaker 7: It's like the history destination in the in the country,
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  Speaker 7: but it's so manufactured and just kind of plastic at
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  Speaker 7: this point, you really got to dig for it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, man, that's a great point. I
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  Speaker 6: think I've read. I've read that before too, going back
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  Speaker 6: to the seven hills part, because they like that about
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  Speaker 6: the DC area because it had seven hills too, So
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  Speaker 6: it's like there's that there's definitely a Roman connection there.
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  Speaker 6: There's an Etruscan connection there too, because Truscan's built wrong.
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  Speaker 1: What was the what was the name of Washington, DC
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  Speaker 1: before they switched it over to Washington.
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  Speaker 6: I have a feeling, you know, maybe Columbia or.
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  Speaker 1: It's called Rome, Maryland.
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  Speaker 2: Because wow, he's actually seven.
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  Speaker 3: The number seven is found in every old civilization, seven steps,
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  Speaker 3: seven pillars, all these different things, right, that's seven lot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that number seven is very important in a lot of
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  Speaker 3: ancient civilizations from different places. So yeah, that that's interesting
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  Speaker 3: to me about the number seven. I was just talking
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  Speaker 3: about that the other day, about the number seven and
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  Speaker 3: the seven and three makes ten, which makes it perfect perfection,
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  Speaker 3: like seventy three is the way that perfection is just
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  Speaker 3: number ten is actually perfection and stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, I got you back. Now I can
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  Speaker 5: hear you now.
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  Speaker 4: We launched it for a second.
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  Speaker 5: You're good.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I was going to say is the
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  Speaker 7: word you're talking about Roman influence and things like that,
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  Speaker 7: but Greek as well.
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  Speaker 5: The or no, I guess it. I guess it would
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  Speaker 5: be Rome. The word capital.
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  Speaker 7: The reason that every state capital in the United States
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  Speaker 7: has spelled CIP or c A P I T O
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  Speaker 7: L instead of a L, because the capital of somewhere
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  Speaker 7: is spelled with an al OL comes from the capitolium,
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  Speaker 7: which was on the one of the hills of Rome
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  Speaker 7: that they that they did saturn esque sacrifices. I don't know,
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  Speaker 7: it's kind of muddled, but it was like a human sacrifice,
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  Speaker 7: like hill in Rome. And the first capital in the
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  Speaker 7: colonies was Williamsburg, what I'm going to talk about today,
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  Speaker 7: and so the capitol building there, it wasn't the ol
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  Speaker 7: wasn't used until they built the capitol building, and they
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  Speaker 7: spelled that with an O L to pay homage to
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  Speaker 7: the Capitolium, the capital.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the Etruscans built that over and Rome. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 6: there was there was, yeah, definitely human sacrifice involved. There's
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  Speaker 6: there's a story that allegedly there's there's some comparisons between
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  Speaker 6: decapital and the word decapitate because they were they were
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  Speaker 6: cutting people's heads off and using it for divination. And
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  Speaker 6: apparently there were still heads disembodied heads in the foundation
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  Speaker 6: of the capitol in Rome because the Etruscans wanted you know,
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  Speaker 6: they were sorcerers.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, well, and the crazy thing about it too
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  Speaker 7: is d C, the capital of the country, got spelled
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  Speaker 7: with that ol, and nobody else was at the time.
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  Speaker 7: It was the colonial capital, the capitol building in Williamsburg.
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  Speaker 7: But Thomas Jefferson was absolutely adamant that the capital in
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  Speaker 7: DC be spelled with an ol because of his Williamsburg roots,
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  Speaker 7: living literally two blocks from the capitol when he was
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  Speaker 7: at William and Mary and then when he would come
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  Speaker 7: and be mentored and lived with George, with the guy
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  Speaker 7: who created are the Virginia Seal which has Athena on
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  Speaker 7: it shaking her spear over.
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  Speaker 1: There's some controversy on that one, so I think.
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  Speaker 5: On whether it's Athena.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's.
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  Speaker 2: I got a slide. I got a slide.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I was hoping we get into some of this god
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  Speaker 6: goddess worshiped, divine, feminine stuff, because I mean, that's everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: So I've got a cool slide.
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  Speaker 7: That both that George with he created the first seal
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  Speaker 7: for William and Mary, and then he also created the
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  Speaker 7: Virginia seal, and well, i'll show you the slide.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get to it.
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  Speaker 7: But it's because Minerva is kind of the equivalent, like
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  Speaker 7: the equivalent of that.
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  Speaker 2: You struggle like that right there.
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  Speaker 1: But that's here's the here's the problem though. It's not
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  Speaker 1: the pose. The pose is very much a you know,
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  Speaker 1: what's her name, the colleague. It's a Collie pose, and
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  Speaker 1: the secretism of colleague is Artemis. Artemis is far more
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  Speaker 1: well used in ancient Greece, and that Artemissian flavor there
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  Speaker 1: is what I think that's the Columbia type goddess personality
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  Speaker 1: they're going with in BC. But you know, all that
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  Speaker 1: came through what's his name. I went to the college.
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  Speaker 1: The guy who designed the seal said that it was Vertus.
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  Speaker 1: It's clearly not Vertus.
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  Speaker 7: Wait what Celia, Are you talking about the United States
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  Speaker 7: Seal or the DC Virginia flag.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's his flag ever.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's got a booby on it.
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  Speaker 7: It's got a movie clearly the best state flag that
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  Speaker 7: we have. It's got an exposed booby.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'll pull it up and I just had.
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  Speaker 2: I just pulled it up too.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, what George, George With is George With
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  Speaker 5: is responsible for that seal?
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  Speaker 7: And he's he He is the reason that Thomas Jefferson
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  Speaker 7: was obsessed with Francis Bacon because he was obsessed with
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  Speaker 7: Francis Bacon so much so that both of them, well,
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  Speaker 7: Jefferson married into the Bacon family through the Randolphs, and
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  Speaker 7: then they both were so obsessed that they both employed
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  Speaker 7: direct descendants of Bacon at Monticello and then George with.
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  Speaker 5: In his his home in Williamsburg. But yeah, es, this
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  Speaker 5: is this is really interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I want to bring this up. And I know a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people says they just won't see it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just airing out, man, It's just airing out. Man's
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  Speaker 3: right out there and open.
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  Speaker 4: Uh when it comes to I was gonna ask before,
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  Speaker 4: and I really fucking wish I did now really, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: this guy's making it up. I was gonna ask you,
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  Speaker 4: is this lady holding a stick or a spear or anything? Yeah? Yeah, Now,
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  Speaker 4: the reason why I wanted to bring that up, and
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  Speaker 4: I swear to God, it's an idea that I do
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  Speaker 4: want to try to make and I've tried doing it
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  Speaker 4: with Jack Gibte and it doesn't work out too well.
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  Speaker 4: I tried to have like Horus or Toath in the middle,
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  Speaker 4: and I wanted two Egyptian chicks to look like they're
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  Speaker 4: pole dancing. And the reason I want them to look
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  Speaker 4: like they're pole dancing is because I do think a
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  Speaker 4: lot of feminine, especially her. Now with that titch showing
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  Speaker 4: a lot of feminine. This is just my opinion, a
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  Speaker 4: lot of feminine images. Especially if they're holding sticks, they're
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  Speaker 4: representing the hyaloid canal. The stick it is straight when
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  Speaker 4: your eye is one way, and then it bends like
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  Speaker 4: they're fucking pole dancing or sitting. They bend like an
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  Speaker 4: s and then that's another pose when your eye changes again.
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  Speaker 4: And now, if you want to think about it, the nipple,
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  Speaker 4: the nipple on a female, when the baby puts its
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  Speaker 4: mouth on there, it's gonna send a signal to the
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  Speaker 4: fucking pineal gland and it's gonna tell the baby where
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  Speaker 4: it is, what fucking sees, and it's in and all that.
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  Speaker 4: So I do wonder if that type of ship right
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  Speaker 4: there is actually showing something to do with your ibel.
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  Speaker 4: And that sounds fucking out there, But I do think
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  Speaker 4: that some of that ship might be the William and
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  Speaker 4: Mary seal.
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  Speaker 6: The nudity signifies that it's a goddess. If she was covered,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think, you know, they would be.
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  Speaker 2: Up for debate.
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  Speaker 4: But and then like even there, even the or that
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  Speaker 4: ship around it is what the zagnols of z In
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  Speaker 4: look like. That surrounds your whole lens on your eyebel. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: your zaniols is in look just like that ship. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I could bring up pictures, you'd be like, what the fuck?
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  Speaker 4: I'm being serious.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, do you see the reverse side of it? The
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  Speaker 1: reverse side of it has some major squid images as well,
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  Speaker 1: But that's that's the obverse. That's the front of it.
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  Speaker 1: But the backside is her in three parts giving out
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  Speaker 1: grain or something.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, I've never paid attention to that one much.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know why.
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  Speaker 4: I think, Sorry, I throw it over the eyeball symbolism.
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  Speaker 4: It's just that's that's what I've.
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  Speaker 3: But see that that that that that goes back to
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  Speaker 3: language starting as a pictographic script. This is the way
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  Speaker 3: they will communicate to people through pictures because their writing
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  Speaker 3: system wasn't as as advanced as it is today. We
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  Speaker 3: have in the writing system that we can understand things
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  Speaker 3: word by word now or back in the day, I
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  Speaker 3: should say, in the mainten time to look at a
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  Speaker 3: picture and you have to decipher that picture based on
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  Speaker 3: what you see from the ancient symbolism, and that's where
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  Speaker 3: you get, you know, the different narratives and theories and
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  Speaker 3: ideas of what's going on with that with that story.
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  Speaker 3: But the people who master these stories understand that when
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  Speaker 3: they look at that picture, it tells an exact story
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  Speaker 3: the same way every single time.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. You can see that a lot in the alchemical
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  Speaker 1: symbols for different materials too. They're telling a story with
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  Speaker 1: each one of those symbols, and you can see it
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  Speaker 1: in how they draw the symbols themselves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really amazing how some of these people can
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  Speaker 3: look at pictures and tell you a whole They can
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  Speaker 3: make a whole, entire movie hour and thirty minute movie.
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  Speaker 2: Just from one symbol. That's why use a symbolic thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, it's important.
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  Speaker 3: It's important to understand that because a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: don't understand that.
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  Speaker 2: They want things to be told to them easily.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to have to decipher and understand it
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  Speaker 3: on a logical level. That is given to everybody because everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I always say it like this, when you go to
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  Speaker 3: a museum the first time you go to a museum,
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  Speaker 3: you don't want to go to a museum that somebody's
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  Speaker 3: telling you all the fine art that's inside there. You
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  Speaker 3: want to go in there with a fresh mind, fresh
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  Speaker 3: set of eyes, and fresh understanding of what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: Meaning, once you walk in there and see.
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  Speaker 3: That picture, you see it for what it is without
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  Speaker 3: somebody having to already tell you this is what it is.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Give an example, the Mona Lisa. Everybody knows about the
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Mona Lisa on a basic level, and they know when
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: they go see it for the first time, they're going
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: to take all the things that they remember from what
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: they was told about it and apply it to what
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: they've seen at that moment and magin going there with
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: a fresh understanding, without even knowing anybody telling you anything
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: about it, you're going to see things that other people
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: haven't seen. And that's where the symbolism understanding comes from.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Well, all the old paintings were encoded with symbols as well.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: D Yeah, Da Vinci all most of them I think
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: had some sort of an Esoterican cody to them. And
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: going back to the goddess stuff, I think you see
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: that godd is symbolism a lot as it relates to Virginia,
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: especially in some of these old artworks. Like if you
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: think about it, like this got Virginia, virgin Goddess.
• 18:37
  Speaker 7: Virginia, Virgin Queen Elizabeth, Virginia, Virgo.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: Virgo is Australia. Virgo is also August through September twenty third.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: The Constitution was signed September seventeenth, falling right into Virgo
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: and Virgo is Austraya. So there's all these connections between
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: the Goddess Australia and in America, in Virginia and even Lady.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Justice and the Knight's templars.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I got some of that too, Yeah, nice, I know
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: you do.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It's Virginia. They got knights templars there. I mean, that's
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: crazy if you think about.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: It, all right, So what's yeah, sorry, so what's where?
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Where were we actually before I went off on that, we.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Was kicking knowledge? Man, it is supposed to go.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: I've got I've got like a Williamsburg is so dense
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: as far as different tendrils you can go down in
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: Virginia in general, because once you start talking about the
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: founding of Jamestown, then you got to start talking. You
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: kind of have to start talking about, well, who started that,
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: and that was the Virginia Company of London, and who
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: was on that that was Francis Bacon. Then all of
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: a sudden, you're, you know, thirty forty fifty years back
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: in Francis Bacon's like timeline. But I put together kind
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: of a a little timeline that I could just speed
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: through to give you a quick It's kind of a
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: parallel timeline between the Stuarts, the Stuart dynasty and what
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: was happening in the New World, and that everything kind
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: of lines up so perfectly with my thesis, which is
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: that the New Atlantis started in Virginia, and the New
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: Atlantis wasn't wasn't necessarily a Francis Bacon's big dream. I
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: think it might have been something slightly simpler, still more
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: secret and hidden, but I think that it was. It
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: was almost a breakaway civilization for the Stuart dynasty. And
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: then when you and then it gets more interesting when
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: you trace back the Stuarts and find that they come
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: from the mayor Vingian line and their whole divine right
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: of kings. I think I can show that they didn't.
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: Care if they were Catholic or Protestant. But I have
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: a quick just.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: I can speed read through it real quick, and then
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: I'll go and I've got a bunch of really cool
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: slides and alignments and measurements that.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Will probably blow you away.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: But I think it's helpful for people who it's crazy
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: that a lot of people don't have a lot of
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: like just general Virginia history, and it's kind of the
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: birthplace of the country.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: But I could go through that real quick. If you're interested,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: go for it, good, all right? Pulled this up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: History and knowledge always interests me, so you ain't even
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: have to ask that question.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: A good deal, all right.
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: So below chronological account of key events that illustrate the
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: narrative that Merrivngian that this is a Merrivingian Stewart breakaway civilization.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: First and foremost, the Lodge of Edinburgh was created in
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: fifteen ninety nine.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: That charter was given by James the First, who took
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: over the UH.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: I think it was sixteen one hundred, and it might
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: have been fifteen ninety nine when he took over the
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: throne after Queen Elizabeth died. I know she died, I
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: think fifteen ninety eight, so sixteen oh seven the Virginia
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: Colony was established with the founding of Jamestown, marking the
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: first permanent English settlement in North America. This event allayed
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: the groundwork for the English colonial expansion and signified the
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: beginning of the Stewart influence in the New World. Now
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: I'm going to be connecting a bunch of things to
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: Oak Island. I think Oak Island is far more significant
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: than that show. Again plasticizes and makes you know, it
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: makes for pretty good entertainment, and they've strung us along
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: for a number of years now. But I think what
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: happened there was a little bit more simple, but far
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: more interesting, because they've spun these these yarns in so
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: many directions that they could drill down I think in
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: one area and get most of their answers. But what's interesting,
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: And so we're over here in sixteen oh seven John
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: Smith and Gabriel Archer and Christopher Newport, the whole gang,
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: and they're dying. They can't stay alive like they They
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: starve and they die, and they fight with natives and
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: they die, and they make up with the Natos, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: that they die. They have periods called the starving time.
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: They have evidence of knife marks on skulls where they
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: were cannibalizing each other inside the James Fort.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: But during this time, I mean they came over in
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: sixteen oh seven.
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: By sixteen thirteen, they thought, with all that going on
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: in Jane Sound, that it was super important for a
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: guy named Captain Samuel Argall to leave Williamsburg, cruise up
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: with a force to Nova Scotia and attack the French
• 23:46
  Speaker 7: in Acadia and take it back from the French. So
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: in the middle of all that nonsense, they go up there,
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: split their forces and take Acadia back. And they took
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: a ton of money because they noted off this fort.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: They talk about it a lot on Oak Island twice
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: and both times it was the equivalent of billions of
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: dollars in treasure that was at that fort. I can't
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: remember the name of it right now, Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: If I could stop you real quick. So these guys
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: have descendants that fight in the Revolutionary War, oh yeah,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and so they would probably be officers in the Revolutionary.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: War Society of Cincinnati.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: And society is Cincinnati against French and English, Oh yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: battling it out over these old teplar sites. What does
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: that tell you?
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: These are times then down into the then down into
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: the Delta and into down the Mississippi and then down
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: into uh, Louisiana. The word Cajun comes from Arcadia. Arcadia
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: turned into Acadia turned into Cajun when they got when
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: they got down south. And when you talk about the
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: possibility of Prince Maddock and that whole crew coming up
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: uh into the Bay of Mobile around Alabama, it gives
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: them a little bit more importance to that that New Orleans,
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: Louisiana area.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: So that Kadia is an old Mesopotamian Mediterranean civilization.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Right yeah.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: And then Arcadia, Arcadia is the Greek like of.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: Kadia is is basically over there in Holyland or nearby.
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: And they don't know, yeah, And they don't know whether
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: or not that it might be an amalgamation of the two,
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: but why they started using that to name French peoples
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: and French places, Kadias.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Seems to go back to older orders. Sorry, I'll let
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: you finish, but it's like like you know, with the
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: Society of Cincinnati. Yeah, there's some temple art, but it's
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: also just representative of older orders as a whole. Those
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: group of guys brought different things to the table, So
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: I don't see why. And like we're talking about these
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: old forts named a Katie and stuff like this all
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: points back to older orders to me, even maybe even James,
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: the James fort that you brought up, the sixteen h
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: seven fort, Like it kind of looks like a star
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: fork to me, and it makes me lake out older.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's laid out like that for sure, like a
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: crude version. You know.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: Immediately they pissed off the natives and building palisades and
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: a and a fancier architectural fort went out the window
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: and they just had the three sided palisade with kind
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: of like a turret area on each one, and then
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: they just all died.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I think they were.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: At one point one of the supply missions came back
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: and there was like forty people there.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: I mean, they just they they couldn't stay alive, all right.
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: So we're talking about the Stewarts. King James is the
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: is the king. They go take Acadia Nova Scotia from
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: the French. Charles becomes the king after James. He's executed
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: in sixteen forty nine. That begins the period of like
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: the Cromwell the Commonwealth. What's interesting about Charles and I
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: get this from my good buddy court Lindall. His last
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: words before they chopped his head off were Pamela's prayer
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: from a book called Arcadia by Philip Sidney. And then
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: I go on to say, you know a Kadia the
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: name of Nova Scotia at the time. Also the book
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: Arcadia by Philip Sidney, who Charles's last words were a
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: prayer from that particular book has a treasure story that
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: mirrors almost one for one, the Oak Island treasure story,
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: and it was brought up when court Lyndall was brought
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: onto the show. He's got the most popular like in
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: like they did some vote, He's got like the most
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: popular like view on what happened there, and they never
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: talked about it again. But in Arcadia there's literally a
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: story about a guy sending another guy out to go
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: find a treasure that he buried underneath an oak tree
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: that has several levels to it. He gets down to
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: a certain level and there's a stone with an inscription
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: on it. Underneath that stone, he finds a box of
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: poetry or something like that, and it's almost it's I
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: think it's allegorical, and it's it's almost kind of this
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: this kind of death and rebirth ritual light, you know
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: what I mean. Like it's it's a an adventures tale.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: It's a massive pressure a joke.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: It's a kind of a toctical joke that they kept
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to themselves all these years until people started taking up
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the muddy pit. Yeah, they call up the muddy pit.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: It is now they maybe something there, But I've fallen
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: on the side of Lendall and I think that it
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: probably has more to do with Momento mora and probably
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: a burial. Okay, So civil war happens Parliament Rule sixteen
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: fifty one to sixteen sixty. As soon as sixteen sixty hits,
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Charles the Second starts his reign. Okay, So they boot
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: the Commonwealth out. They're like, we want the kings back
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: Charles the Second starts. That's the exact same year the
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: Royal Society is founded, founded by Christopher Wren and a
• 29:37
  Speaker 7: handful of other natural philosophers, which was a precursor to masonry.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: The very first building, the oldest building at William and Mary,
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: is the Christopher Wren Building. It's argued whether or not
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: he he designed it or not, but we do know
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: that very early on it did burn down and he
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: sent his personal He was in the middle of the
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: rebuilding of London, and you know, after the sixteen sixty
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: six fires, and he still took the time to send
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: his personal landscaper over to do the landscaping around the
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: Wren Building what's now called the Ren Yard, in the.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Middle of all that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: So Charles the Second is reigning. Now, when Charles the
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: Second is the king, they don't want him there so
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: much so that Parliament is continually trying to pass a
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: law to remove James, Charles's brother from the line of succession.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: They want the Stewart dynasty to end with Charles the Second,
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: however that may come. This leads me to the opinion
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: that I think the writing was on the wall for
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: the Stewarts Now remember Mary, Queen of Scott's James the
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: first Mother. She has really the best claim to the throne,
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: and she should have been the king before Bloody Mary,
• 31:03
  Speaker 7: and before Bloody Mary's little brother, and before Queen Elizabeth.
• 31:10
  Speaker 7: But when they do, they stuck her in a tower
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: and chopped her head off.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Ernie, do you believe that the Stuart line
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: is still alive in Appalachia.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I believe it's possibility.
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: I believe that the Stuart line and the Stuart ideals
• 31:24
  Speaker 7: just kind of morphed into Mason, just kind of rebranded
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: into Masonry and a different type of control system.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: I think they could.
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: See the writing on the wall that their personal monarchy
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: in England was out, and that monarchy is in general,
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: we're going to be a thing of the past. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: they rebranded in a new land. And they did it
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: with the help of their boy Francis Bacon, who wrote
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: the King James Bible for King James set up the
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: Virginia Company of London to go over and start you know, Virginia.
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: So we'll get into that too, because now I'm starting
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: to get into some Bacons. So Charles the Second is in,
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: but they don't want him in and immediately Nathaniel Bacon
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: pops on the scene. Okay, now you will hear over
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: and over type it into Google. You will hear that
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: Nathaniel Bacon of Bacon's Rebellion in Williamsburg, Virginia is the
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: distant cousin of Sir Francis Bacon.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: Okay, he's only Can I ask you a question real quick? Yeah, yeah,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: go for it.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Hey, let me ask you. A lot of people say that.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: The King James version is the most inaccurate Bible out there.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: I would say that it's it's inaccurate in that the Puritans.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: The Puritans came through and eighty six to all the apocrypha,
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: like the apocrypha that no Protestant like denomination will touch
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: with a ten foot pole, now was absolute cannon.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: In sixteen eleven when they printed that Bible.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: They also and they don't they changed Passover to Easter.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: It seems to paganized it in that.
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I think what you had with the Puritans.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: They had a real nice name, sounded like they were
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: these really pious Jesus loving and no they were Calvinists
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: with a you know, with this with this predestination idea
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: which smacks really of you know, they're getting away from
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: monarchies and and and oppression, but they're coming over here
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: and they are the most oppressive people within their own communities.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: You start talking about the witch trials and things like that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 7: The Puritans weren't pure, man, They they sanitized and they
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: are from it. They Yeah, they turned Christianity into like
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: a deist movement.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 7: Once you strip all the once you strip all of that,
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: you know, the super natural and the mysticism away from Christianity,
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: it can be turned into this Joel Olstein like, uh,
• 34:09
  Speaker 7: you know financial.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Jesus is Jesus is a hippie.
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: There's no demons, there's no hell that, you know what
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: I mean? Like it they set it up.
• 34:21
  Speaker 7: The Puritans really did set up the Christian religion to
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: be this plastic, just milk toast thing that it was
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: not early early on first century Christians.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Man, But how much how much did these Puritans looked
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: out on the colonies of Virginia.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: The high Man.
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: They thought that there was two different It's it's still
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: the same a little bit, no offense New Yorkers, but
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: like still the folks up up North Past and Mason
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: Dixon look down on us, like we're a bunch of hillbillies.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: These we are.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: These cycles just keep repeating over and over again. You
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: see those same repeating cultural cycles between these two different factions.
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they get away from the Origins. That's why
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: the Origins they don't even care about They don't care
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: about the foundation. They want to build a house without
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: the foundation, that's what they want to do.
• 35:17
  Speaker 9: I almost I think it goes into this whole angle
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: of the privateer sort of you know night you know,
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: kind of mold that these Southerners had versus the Northerners
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: who immediately instituted socialism and then ended up starving to do.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean there was a lot of starvation in the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: James Colonies certainly, but at least they were trying a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: little bit harder than up north, where they just you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: divided up all the resources equally, and then when nobody
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: had anything, they're like, well what do we do now?
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's just a complete failure of it.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: You brought up William and Mary did that college sort
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: of become a hub of their way of thinking of
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: their new doctrines.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: The Puritans, Yeah, that's there was Anglican. There was an
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: Anglican based so it was it was tied with the
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: Episcopal Church, which Anglican.
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: That's just Catholic light.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: And actually, you know the James Fort, the big swinging
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: dong in that whole mission over there was a guy
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: named Sir Gabriel Archer that when they finally found his
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: burial site in twenty ten, he was buried facing away
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: from the way that Christians are supposed to be buried.
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: I can't remember, you're supposed to be buried in the east.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: So you write either way, he was facing away, and
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: he was. He was buried with a a a reliquary
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: on his chest, a little lead box that had holy
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: water and parchment and fragments of bone in it. And
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: so at a time sixteen oh seven when it wasn't
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: okay to be Catholic, because remember this is this is
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: James Stewart, who was from the Catholic family, who all
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: of a sudden was a Protestant. And that's the thing
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: they go back and forth on. All the Stuarts were
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: staunchly Catholic. Well, if you look back at the monarchs,
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: there was a wide spectrum of hardcore Catholic Stuart monarch,
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: and then hardcore Protestant, and then a Protestant Stuart who
• 37:23
  Speaker 7: was cool with Catholics, and then a Catholic Stewart who
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: was cool with Protestants. The only thing that the only
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: thing that I think the Stuarts cared about was their
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: Marivingian bloodline and the divine right of kings. And if
• 37:38
  Speaker 7: you look at the Marivni and blood line in itself
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: inherently is a heresy to Christianity. So they couldn't have
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: been really at their core. Now the people following them
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: they fell into line, because it's a great control system.
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: Just you know, if you announce you're Catholic, you're the
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: Catholic king, and all the Catholic people are on your
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: side and vice versa. But deep down within those families,
• 38:04
  Speaker 7: that family in particular, I believe all they cared about
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: was this blood line, whether they whether they even themselves
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: believe that they were from some bloodline of Christ, because
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: I don't even know that they believe that themselves, but
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: it was what imbued their family with this divine right
• 38:20
  Speaker 7: of kings right. And you can't claim that Jesus had
• 38:24
  Speaker 7: a kid and then also be a staunch you know
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: religious Christian It's it's heresy on its face.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: This might be why they're worshiping Job the Baptist is
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: because they wanted to take that dividity away from one
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: character and add it to a different one.
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: And the Meyrivingians.
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: The connective tissue between the Stewarts and the Marivingians is
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: the Templars and the French, the French noble knights that
• 38:52
  Speaker 7: came out of the South of France, which.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: Are the a lot of the Templar order are Let's see.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: I just have to add this in because it seems
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: like I'm just trying to get this a picture of
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: what's happening here.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: Right, and it's hard. Dude, I know, I'm through.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Like what everything you just said resonates that that really
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: paints the portrait for me. But I just want to
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: add one little thing in. You brought up that Wren
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: Building on the campus of William and Mary. I think
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: it's considered to be the oldest academic building yeah standing
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: still in the US. So there's some importance there, specifically
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: when it comes to the ties to the Royal Society
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: that you mentioned.
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: Especially when it's named after the founder of the Royal.
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: Society am and that was you know, around sixteen sixty
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: when that kicked off. That to me signifies this this
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: new type of doctrine that's coming in.
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and let me blow you away real quick. Why
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: you just said that. The next point I'm getting into
• 39:49
  Speaker 7: is Nathaniel Bacon, And like I said, he was, he
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: was a much closer descendant to Francis Bacon than people say.
• 39:59
  Speaker 7: They say he was a distant relative. He was Francis
• 40:04
  Speaker 7: Bacon's uncle's grandson, you.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Know what I mean.
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: Like, I don't know if that means anything to anybody else,
• 40:10
  Speaker 7: but down here in the South, your uncle's your uncle's grandson.
• 40:15
  Speaker 7: That ain't a distant relation, you know what I mean.
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: That's that's pretty close. So he wasn't that far away.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: Because I think people try to use that to say that,
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: you know, his ideals had nothing to do with what
• 40:32
  Speaker 7: Bacon was thinking and doing.
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case.
• 40:36
  Speaker 7: Because in sixteen sixty one, Nathaniel Bacon he's over in
• 40:41
  Speaker 7: England and he starts studying under natural philosopher in the
• 40:54
  Speaker 7: Royal Society named John Ray, another natural philosopher.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: From sixteen sixty three to sixteen sixty four, he.
• 41:02
  Speaker 7: Tours Europe and all the old Old World sites with
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: John Ray, who is best buds with Christopher Wrenn. So
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: that's sixteen sixty three to sixteen sixty four. I believe
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: by sixteen sixty five he is He starts doing law
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: at Gray's Inn, so he went to the same college.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: He went to Cambridge, just the same as Francis Bacon did.
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: He starts hobnobbing with the member the founders of the
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: Royal Society, which I think is a continuation of Bacon's
• 41:38
  Speaker 7: Rosicrucian beginnings.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: And then obviously the Royal Society is.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: The beginnings of what is going to become like the
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: Book for Masonry, I think, or the at least the
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: group of guys that are going to kind of push
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: the national you know, the coming out party and science.
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: In sixteen sixty five he's at Gray's Inn, which was.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Where Francis Bacon was studying law.
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: In sixteen seventy, he marries a noble This is the
• 42:10
  Speaker 7: most interesting part about Nathaniel Bacon. In sixteen seventy he
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: marries a noble woman, Elizabeth Duke right, her dad's a
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: Lord something duke, and.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Four years later he just gets a bug up.
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: His ass and decides up, A'm moving me and my
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: noble woman wife out to podunk nowhere, New World, Virginia
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: to grow corn and tobacco. Right, this is sixteen seventy four.
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: By sixteen seventy six, he has started a revolution, taken
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: over the entire government of Williamsburg, and then shit himself
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: to death from dysentery.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: Died, the body was never found, Okay. And this was
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: not like Nathaniel Bacon. He gets brushed off a lot
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: as like Ah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: He had this little rebellion where he wanted to kill
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: natives and they didn't want to. What it was is
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: he was rebelling against the corrupt government within Williamsburg because
• 43:14
  Speaker 7: they had all these like side trade deals with different
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: tribes and stuff, and so all those guys were protected,
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: but all the plantations on the outskirts of the colony
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: were getting just raided and mrked like all day long,
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: and he wanted some help and they wouldn't.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Give it to him.
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: So he took over the government in sixteen seventy six,
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: exactly one hundred years.
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: Before the revolution in seventeen seventy six.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: And also, and I think from what I've learned is
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: that Nathaniel Bacon was closer to those people's George Washington
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: than anybody would give him credit for now, so much
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: so that they buried him in secret, and to this
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: day nobody knows where he's buried. And that's actually one
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: of court Lendel's theories on this, this vault that supposedly
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: Manly P Hall's wife decoded some some Shakespeare and kind
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: of pinpointed at some the thing that perked up the
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: Rockefellers and got and like got them obsessed with Williamsburg.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Well, anybody, anybody who knows about the Shakespeare code, they've
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: left these coded messages in a trail all around England.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But if it picks up in the New World, it
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: would make sense that that would be that fault.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: That well, and have you ever heard of the.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: So in the Wren churchyard, I'm sorry, the Bruton Parish
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: churchyard in Williamsburg.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: So it's literally a block or two away from the
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: campus of Wayman Mary.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: It's the oldest church in Virginia and it's it's the
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: one that Manley P Hall's wife said. There's something very anyway,
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: there is a I might get some of this wrong,
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: but the general idea.
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: There is a.
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: Tomb right next to the right, next to the church,
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: and the inscription on the tomb starts off dear Reader.
• 45:28
  Speaker 9: In it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: I listened to another researcher who has scoured.
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: The globe trying to find another epitaph that starts off
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: dear Reader, and it just wasn't ever done anywhere Ever,
• 45:39
  Speaker 7: this is a very unique thing to.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: Write, dear reader. Well, this particular person, his name was Nicholson.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: I'm about to get into the Nicholson family, and they're weird,
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: kind of secret esoteric beginnings and and and activities in Williamsburg.
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: But not only that, he was boys with Thomas Jefferson,
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: and and he paid Thomas jeff Thomas Jefferson owed this
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: dude money like their whole friendship. And then just before
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: this guy died, he paid Jefferson this certain sum of
• 46:12
  Speaker 7: money that everybody kind of assumes it was to get
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: his burial stonemade. And like I said, Thomas Jefferson was
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: married into the Bacon family through the Randolph line of
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: the Bacon family.
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: The Randolphs were boys. They were also members.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: Through a different side of their family with Philip Sidney,
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: who wrote the book Arcadia, and they are the ones.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: The Randolphs were known to be, the ones who had
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: the second.
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: Folio of Shakespeare. There's like two of them in existence.
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Don't they any.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Beverly Randolphs.
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the Beverly was, Yeah, one of them. There's tons
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: of around Williamsburg or Virginia's important Randolphs.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about Pennsylvania because in Pennsylvania that's where the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: uh Roscian rome through the Beverly.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know if they're the same Randolphs, but I
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: would I I can't imagine they didn't have some sort
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: of relation.
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So is there something to.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: This Shakespeare code in this in these tombs in the
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: area and the mainly p Hall stuff? Is there something
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: to it?
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: So so as I understand it. Marie Bauer Hall mainly
• 47:35
  Speaker 7: p Hall's wife, Uh huh, she's about.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was her. That was her maiden name.
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: She was Abouhina b a u r or b a
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: u e r or something like that.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: So she this guy got in contact with her.
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: He was a physician from I want to say, Ohio,
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: but I might be wrong on that. And he was
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: obsessed with he was obsessed with Shakespeare and decoding Shakespeare,
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: and he got in touch with her and she spent
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: tons of time with him.
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: And then shortly after that she.
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: Comes out with this book called Williamsburg on Earth or
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: The Brute and Vault on Earth, something like that, and it's.
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: This entire this book is all about how she was
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: able to.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Decode some tombstones in the churchyard, some Francis Bacon stuff
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: and some Shakespeare stuff, and that told her where the
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: original church footprint was, because that church was built in
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: like the sixteen forties, burnt down once rebuilt on the
• 48:41
  Speaker 7: same site, and then in the seventeen hundreds it was
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: rebuilt again on the same piece of land, but just
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: like I don't know, like fifty feet next to it, right,
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: but the original footprint of the original church had been
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: lost to time and just overgrown, and that's where all
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: the tombs were and whatnot. Well, she got in contact
• 49:04
  Speaker 7: with the Bruton Parish church and was in the twenties
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: and was like, hey, I can tell you, like to
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: the inch where you can find that original Sure enough
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: they did, they.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: Went out and dug it up.
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: But also in those same conversations she was like, and
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: also where twenty foot below where the original bell.
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: Tower was of that church.
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: There's a vault twenty foot by twenty foot twenty feet down.
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: Below that where the bell tower would have been in
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: that original footprint.
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Right well, right around that time is when the Rockefellers
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: swoop in, right and then Bruton Parish doesn't want to
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: talk to her anymore, and they don't want to investigate this.
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: They don't want to investigate this supposed vault.
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: Well, she bangs the drum on this stuff all the
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: way into the nineties.
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: So much so that there is a cult called the
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: Sages of the Seventh Seal, this New Age cult out
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: of somewhere in California, who are obsessed with Manly p
• 50:06
  Speaker 7: Hall and her, and so much so that they claimed
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: that in this vault that she said she found or
• 50:15
  Speaker 7: reported was underneath the old Bruton Parish church, there was
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: some sort of information Francis Bacon, information down.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: There that would set off the apocalypse. I don't know.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: And in the nineties you can find news reports they
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: came over to Virginia, hopped the fence of the churchyard
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: in the middle of the night and start digging up
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: the graveyard.
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: Well, so somebody may have been following an older alchemical
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: tradition that's been encoding stuff into the church. Because they
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: did that, Folk and Elliot wrote a book about it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 6: All the cathedrals, the Gothic cathedrals that kicked off, they
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: were all built at the moment the templars started up,
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: and around eleven hundred they were encoding alchemic coal secrets
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: into the architecture of the buildings themselves. So if Bacon
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: or Shakespeare, or some weird combination of both, or if
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: they're the same person, that person may have been following.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: There's an now chemical strand of this, you know, That's
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: Well, when you walk into the bell tower of the
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: seventeen forty circa seventeen forty Bruton Parish church that sits
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: in the same churchyard, now, the first thing you see
• 51:28
  Speaker 7: when you walk in is a giant stained glass window
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: of Nathaniel Bacon the Elder. So there were two Nathaniel
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: Bacons in Williamsburg at the exact same time. One was
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: like a royalist, like on the teet of the government.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: The other one was the guy who started the revolution.
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: The guy who started the revolution. They can't find him,
• 51:47
  Speaker 7: but there's pretty solid evidence Court Lindall has pieced Marie
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: Bauer Hall's research together and he's got some really incredible
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: evidence that what is probably in that vault maybe the
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: maybe the body of Nathaniel Bacon the younger.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: So Ernie, Ernie, I gotta ask you, are you following
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: the current sort of disclosure movement coming out of the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Knights Templar right now?
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: The the the Hogan guy talking about the uh, the
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: different boxes that they supposedly have buried all over the states.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I am, they say that there are there are. Yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: it's kind of an I am cult. But this guy
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: claims to have the lineage. I mean, we know it's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a lidiage tradition, and they don't claim that in any
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: of these offshoots. And there's a recent video of them
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: opening up the the tide capsule in the base of
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Roberty Lee's statue.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah I heard about that.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And they pull out the postcard from the Knight's
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Templar in there.
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:58
  Speaker 7: And the literally that happened during during the Black Lives
• 53:04
  Speaker 7: Matter marches on Monument Avenue in Richmond, like in my backyard.
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, I know people.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: The lady has pulled it out. She goes oh no,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: audibly on camera, she's looking at it.
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because she knows with this stuff, now touch it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: But this is what I'm talking about with Virginia. They
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: decide to move a statue that's offensive and they just
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: find incredible hidden history.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: Just stuck in the rock.
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: So that was that was put there in the twenties.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: That statue was place there in the twenties.
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a little calling card for the nights timper like, hey,
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: we were here. Whatever you're looking for, we got it.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: And when I when I finally get to my like
• 53:47
  Speaker 7: alignments and measurements and stuff.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: This all helps to prove.
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: Like what I've found that this is not only you know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 7: just cathedrals that were built and imbued with like symbolism.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: This happens to this day.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: I can show you a piece of what I found
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: that I think was placed there in twenty ten that
• 54:07
  Speaker 7: falls directly in line with a Tree of Life configuration
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: that it's pretty stunning. Let me burn through real quick
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: this the rest of this, because I think you guys
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: get get the point we're locked in.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, after this, I do want to bring up something,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: so just remind me of okay.
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, let me just burn through. I got like a
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: couple of more dates. James the Second, his reign is
• 54:32
  Speaker 7: sixteen eighty five to sixteen eighty eight, and then he's
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: deposed during the Glorious Revolution. That's when they booted out
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: the Stewarts for good, except for the Hanoverian. William married
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: the daughter of James the Second, So William and Mary
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: is a Hanoverian and a Stewart, and then Mary's daughter
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: Queen Anne of the Queen Anne's Revenge fame, she becomes
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: the queen after that, and then after her it's all
• 55:03
  Speaker 7: Hannoverian after that sixteen eighty seven. Okay, So King j
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: what I'm trying to show is that during the Stuart
• 55:14
  Speaker 7: reign they had all these ups and downs where they're
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: kicked out of the monarchy and then they're back in,
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: and then they hate them and they don't want to
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: give the brother the line of succession, and then they're
• 55:23
  Speaker 7: back in, and then they get another one. And meanwhile,
• 55:26
  Speaker 7: this stuff is also happening in Virginia right during the
• 55:31
  Speaker 7: Stewart's the first Stuart rule, they go over to Virginia. Well,
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: James the first, he knew that his line was probably
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: gonna their time was gonna be short. I mean they
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: held his mom captive who had the stronger claim, and
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: then cut off her head.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Then he becomes the king.
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: I think as soon as he became king, he was like, Bacon,
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: get some dudes, go over to that other piece of
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: land and find us like a safe haven and start
• 55:59
  Speaker 7: setting up.
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: That's kind of where I'm at right now, and I think.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: They do something. Can I put that out real quick?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Just one second? This is what happens when your elites
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: are fighting with each other. You get massive explosions in
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: colonization and movement and strength and different forces. But when
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you don't have that competition, you get stagnation like what
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: we're in right now. We're in the stagnation put when
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: none of these people feel like they're in competition with
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: each other. So podcasts like this are very important to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: spread around because you can build that tension within the
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: elites and hopefully they start killing each other again.
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: All right, That was basically the question. Are we talking
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: about two bloodlines here that are kind of warring?
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, nobody wanted the Stewarts. The Tutors didn't want
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: the Stuarts in. The Tutors held on as long as
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: they possibly could. They were kind of they had a shaky,
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: you know, claim to the throne anyway.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: Really, Elizabeth probably.
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: Shouldn't have been the queen, and Mary, Queen of Scotts,
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: should have been the queen. But yeah, Tutor, they were
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: all scott Scottish too, These were the Scottish nobles. They
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: didn't want the Scots to be run in England, you know.
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: And as soon as the Tutors were out of the picture,
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: they had a good little reign of about eighty five years.
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: And then here come the Hanoverians in you know, who
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: aren't even don't even speak English, and they they take
• 57:37
  Speaker 7: over the monarchy.
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: But so James the Second is.
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: All right, So James the Second is in from sixteen
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: eighty five to sixteen eighty eight. In sixteen eighty seven,
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: Sir William Phipps, who was the governor of the Massachusetts
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  Speaker 7: Bay Colony crap discovered a silver treasure of the conceptcy
• 58:03
  Speaker 7: on Spanish galleon. This event was significant for the economic
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: and political landscape of the colonies during this period. Now
• 58:11
  Speaker 7: he finds he wasn't the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony,
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: yet he was a rags to riches kind of Guy
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: and he came from nothing and then became a captain
• 58:22
  Speaker 7: of a ship. Was put on as a privateer for
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: the Massachusetts Bay Colony to go down find the concepcion
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  Speaker 7: and get it. Was like six tons of silver on it.
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: He finds it, he brings it up. He only takes
• 58:36
  Speaker 7: like three tons to England and gives to the king.
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: So they wonder where the other He says that they
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: weren't able to get it all, and then they couldn't
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: find the ship anymore, but they wonder where it is
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: a big theory. One of the best theories of what's
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: on Oak Island, especially when you see the stuff.
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: Now they're testing the water and it stuns the silver
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: not gold, is.
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: That William Phipps hid his silver on Oak Island, an
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: island that he knew about because it had been used
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: for years for kind of the same thing. Now, what
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: points even better to that is that Francis Nicholson also
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: served as the Massachusets Bay Colony governor following phipps governorship.
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: Nicholson was also the governor of Virginia from sixteen ninety
• 59:24
  Speaker 7: to sixteen ninety two and then again from sixteen ninety
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  Speaker 7: eight to seventeen oh five, and then from seventeen twelve
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: to like seventeen fifteen, Francis Nicholson of the Nicholson.
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: Family of the Deer Reader Tombstone.
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  Speaker 7: Is the governor becomes he finishes off his gubernatorial career
• 59:45
  Speaker 7: as the governor of Nova Scotia.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Now they say that Nicholson and Phipps didn't.
• 59:50
  Speaker 7: Know each other, but they were a year apart in
• 59:53
  Speaker 7: being governors in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. And then Francis
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Nicholson was the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony while
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: William when William.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: Phipps found the treasure.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 7: Then he becomes the the governor of Virginia during the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: time that the camp that the campus of William and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 7: Mary is being built, and then he ends his governor
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 7: career as the as the governor of Nova Scotia. Now
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: they say that Nicholson and Phipps didn't know each other,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: But Nicholson has one family member in the New World.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: It's a sister and the only thing that we know
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: about her in history at all is that she lived
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: in Nova Scotia and that her married name was Phipps.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: Phipps had a wife in Massachusetts that he was with forever,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 7: but just so happens these guys who are very close
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 7: to this treasure and Nova Scotia.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: His his sister has the privateer's name.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 7: Now, sixteen ninety three College of William Mary is founded,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: becomes oldest institution of higher education in the United States.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: The second oldest, and really the establishment of William and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: Mary was like sixteen eighteen, but the building didn't start
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: to be built until sixteen ninety three, so really it's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 7: older than Harvard seventeen twelve. Anyway, this is just a
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 7: synopsis as I share visual examples of free Masonic and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 7: cabalistic symbolism woven into the campus of William and Mary
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 7: from its inception all the way up until present day.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: These symbols reflect the underlying influence of the Stewart dynasty.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: Their use of free masonry to maintain power connections between
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: Williamsburg and Oak Island suggests a deeper narrative of these events.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: The timing of the founding of William and Mary and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: the concurrent of the influential figures like Nicholson Phipps indicates
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: potential clandestine activities involving hidden treasures. Blah blah blah, The
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 7: establishment of the Grand Lodge in London seventeen seventeen marked
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: the rise of Freemasonry as a powerful force, allowing the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: Stewarts to rebrand themselves and retain influence without direct monarchy.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: Principles of Freemasonry, which emphasized brotherhood and enlightenment, aligned with
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: the values I would later underpin American society.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I just have to point this out real quick. Yeah,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: the value of rebranding in this time period is much
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: more valuable than gold. If you can rebrand yourself, it's everything.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: We wipe the slate clean, all of your associations are
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: now new. Rebranding is always the most powerful force throughout history.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: So that's also what I was going to say. Similar
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: to what I was going to say, I was going
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 6: to ask, at least are we talking about Freemasons proper
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: here or are they did they break off and create
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: an So.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 7: You always have kind of the York right hardliner Masons
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: in England Grand Lodge type folks, which is infiltrated by
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 7: the Scots as well. But as early as fifteen ninety
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 7: nine that first charter and ed given by James the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: First there was a Masonic order in Scotland and the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 7: Scottish righte of Freemasonry comes from that. Now, when you
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 7: look at most of the Masons in this country, the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: percentage of York right Freemasons to Scottish righte Freemasons is
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 7: crazy lopsided, like America is Scottish right.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: And I think there's a reason for that.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, Ernie, oh did you go out?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 5: Got you back? Nope? I got you back.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have you ever read Albert Pike's book Morals
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: and Dogma at right there?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: Crazy man?
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: I found a really old version too.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 7: That's like a late or I'm sorry, like an early
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 7: nineteen hundred version. So some of the parts that have
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: been kind of redacted are still in there.
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  Speaker 5: So there's some some wild stuff.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: And oh yeah, I got a lot of times on that.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 7: It's so you'll so you know how important and I
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: know I have listened to you guys before where you
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: know how important Calaism is to free masonry.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I get that. I'm I'm ready to go on
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: the visuals.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I know one thing I didn't want to bring up
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: real quick. Yeah, I would like to see those visuals. Uh.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: I want to ask Tyrone when you were at oh shit,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: I lost them. He's like, taking a break there is Yeah,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: you're back, uh tyrone. I wanted to ask real quick
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: when you were at the Cosmic somebody, did you go
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: to the night simpler uh lecture? Nah?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: But I went to go talk to Scott Walter, and
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: it's funny because he asked me straight up.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: He was like, are you a brother? And I was
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: like nah. He was like, how do you know some
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: of this stuff?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: I said, Man, I read a lot of books about masonry,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: from Albert Pike and Godfrey Higgins, the Albert Church Ward.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I said, I learned a lot about masonry, as much
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: as I possibly can because the symbolism and them just
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: alone tells you their stories. And if you don't understand
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: the symbolism, if you want to understand their stories, not
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: even one bit.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: Michael Wan, who's never been a brother, is giving lessons
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: on early American history, the stuff we're talking about now,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: to the Freemasons on their history.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 7: I did two talks at the Randolph Lodge in Petersburg, Virginia,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 7: on the history of Virginia Freemasonry to the Masons and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 7: was introduced as hey, listen up, brothers, this guy probably
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: knows more about our history than we do.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 4: So Y know that is what Joe, remember, I had said,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: I bet you it has to do with the history.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: Why they asked him to go there, because they probably
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: like this guy knows more than they fucking do. Yo.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: But the reason I was bringing up to asking him
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: about the Knight's Templary, it's just interesting that we're mentioning them,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: and a lot of people are bringing them up in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: the chat too, I guess because we talked about it.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: But when I saw them at the Cosmic Summit, I
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: mean they did, you know, not to bring it up again,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: but I mean they did make some fucking wild claims.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: In my opinion that.
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  Speaker 3: This is from his book that I I bet I read.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Look at all these times. There's more tabs pages that
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I have in this book about Mason Reed.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: You can you can just flip through and point to
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: a place and go and have your mind blown in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 7: that book.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: Nick.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that that was pretty significant though. Man, I
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: me and you were talking about it. You've got a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: modern conference held this year and and essentially the Templar
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: show up and announced their presence.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah they did, they Yo and Ernie when
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: they were there and then this is I mean, you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: can go look at my YouTube. It comes right out
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: of their mouth. They say that they have like they're
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: pretty sure that they found one of the arcs, and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: they found the Jesus's bones, Mary's bones. I think maybe
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: one of the kid's bones or something.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Say they've got six arcs, right, No, this is this
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: is kind of weird. He said that there are six
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: of these things from these different temples, but they know where.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: What is so that that they are sure about?
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just find it wheel like all over the place.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: I want to see it. It's like Oak Island.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: I'm like, just show me something, just tease me with something.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 7: I just get worried. It's gonna be that Heraldo rivera
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: thing at Capone's house where he just opens up the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 7: door and there's a barrel sitting there.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: I'm wondering if like some of this ship might actually fly.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying now again, I had said this multiple times.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: Just it doesn't have to be real. It just has
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: to be believed. I'm not saying it's real or it's
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: not real, but imagine like this ship actually does come out.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: That's like I don't know, an own thing that'd be
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: fucking weird.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: You know, you know, I'm gonna significant if it's anything.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Guy, here's the big problem that I see. These guys
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: don't even know their own history. They're having to take
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: lessons from people like us.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, listen, I'm just gonna be keeping real though.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, they probably asked him because he's probably the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: most knowledgeable in that lodge area. I'm just saying that
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean that everybody's fucking stupid that's in their lodge, dude,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying that in that area, well.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: You have you have the guys.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: Transfer I'm not knocking you, Alreny when I say that
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: you don't understand.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: And my my opinion on it is is that it's
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 7: a spectrum like anything else. In every lodge, you've got
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 7: what I call your fish fry. Mason's the guys who
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: are the first three degrees, they're happy with that, they
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 7: run the local fish fry, and then it's like anything else,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 7: you get out of it, which put into it, and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 7: some guys go as far as they can and learn.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 7: One of the guys in that lodge who was a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 7: regular of one of my restaurants, he he went deep
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's he's got every degree you could you
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 7: could imagine. I could talk to him all day long
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 7: about the really.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 5: Intense esoteric stuff. And then there are other guys from
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: the lodge, like the I don't want to say exactly who, but.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 7: Important people in the lodge who it was literally just
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: like you know, being part of the Kowanas Club is
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: in that town something a lodge named after the Randolphs
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: who literally their charter from the sixteen hundreds is still
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 7: in the lodge, signed by random like.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: It's it doesn't make sense.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: This is just something I want to bring up, and
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: Tyrone can probably totally vouch for me on this. When
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: we were at the Cosmic Summit, there was a lot
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: of people there that I met that were in orders
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: that have actually been to the fucking Pyramids, have been here,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: have been there, have been here, have been there. I'm
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: not trying to be a dick or stick up for anything,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: but those people probably more, no more than the fuck
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: we do about those places. And you know, I'm just
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: being serious, So like just again, they know shit we
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: don't because we haven't been there. Well their books, yeah.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 7: Me too, But and a lot of those guys I
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: think nowadays, a lot of them that I meet started
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: off like us, where they were into conspiracy and history
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 7: and stuff, and they were like, well, I gotta know,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 7: I need the cheat sheet, like I need to know
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 7: what some of these symbols mean, and then got really
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: into it because you find that a lot more of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: the hereditary brothers and things like that just kind of
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 7: do it because their grandfather was. But the people who
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 7: have like a real ind I mean, you can't look
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 7: at like Randall Carlson, like that guy is a thirty
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 7: second degree Mason, and you know he got into it
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 7: so that he could learn some stuff.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: You know. Well, it's not like I'm saying, like you
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: see all these people there and like they go together
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: in groups and droves to like these places that I
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: dream about going to them, Like they actually go there
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: and research and see the shit, and like, I'm sure
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: they fucking know him a little bit more than I
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: do about that.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: I think they're signaling. I think they're signaling so that
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: whole JJ vance idea of one day they're going to
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: merge back together into a Vultron style giant robot. They're
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: signaling that they don't have what they need and they're
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: trying to reconnect with the other pieces. You know, you've
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: got Mormonism, you've got Freemasonry, you've got Templars, you've got Rosicrucions,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: You've got all these different groups that.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: Are Reiner's jess.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yo, I met a Shriner there, I met there.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Sometime, don't you guys think that sometime after Pipe
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: there was a transfer of the knowledge of the secrets
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: to other orders. Some of the stuff just went somewhere else. Well.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: And what you also have is the the is it
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 7: Henry Morgan or William Morgan? The Morgan affair in the
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: eighteen twenties when some Masons took out a guy who
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: was going to write a tell all book, and Masonry
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 7: goes in the toilet for a couple of decades. And
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: that's when the Oddfellows and the Shriners and all these
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 7: different the Order of the Red Man and the Knights
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 7: of Pitheus and all the knights of things started because
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 7: it was a way to continue free Masonry in all
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 7: these other arms. And while all this fote, this negative
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: attention was on the Masons. I mean, that's when we
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 7: had the anti Masonic Party that John Quincy Adams was
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: a part of.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: We had a kop up here in Black River Falls.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: They're gone. There's nobody who even knows who the Kop is.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: Well, that's that's the thing that all these these side
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: groups that he just mentioned and did a great job
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: at it, they are super mysterious. You mentioned the Red Man.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: I looked into that order, still very serious. Pithies, the
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 6: Knights of Pithies.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: They had a.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: Building here where I live in Nashville, shrouded in mystery.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: I can't find anything out about it.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: We have a huge we have a huge So.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 7: I look back in our town register and we had
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: a Knight of the Scissors.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 5: The only place I could never find it mentioned.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 7: But it was a fraternal order called the Fraternal Order
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: of the Night of the Scissors.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: I don't know if it was like like a Taylor
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: Guild or something like. Yeah, it might have been like
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 5: the Eastern Star for.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: Hey man, you know, it could have been a thing.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, you've got those, You've got these orders that
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: are based around shoe crafters whatever that's called. You make shoemakers.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's an order of shoemakers that scholars.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: That's because and I doctors too.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: There's an order of this.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very old world idea because you had
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: to create a guild or a trading union so that
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: you control prices on your product, so you wouldn't be
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: constantly getting undercut. So all of these different guilds from
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: all these different ancient European towns, we coordinate on price.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: And so all of these guilds were very important to
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: maintain their way of life. And the problem is once
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: they got to America, then they had to change their perspective.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: It became a fraternal order and they started paying for
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: death insurance. But the whole death insurance thing that was
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: very ancient in Europe. That goes back to the tribal
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: systems that they had prior to Rome or anything like that.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: That was a much more ancient system than people give
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: it credit for.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: You know, I just I would not I would not
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: sleep on some of these smaller orders that are shrouded
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: in mystery, like going back to the cobbers, the shoemaker's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 6: skilled over there in Spain. The thing is is like
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: they had their hands on some old old knowledge that
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 6: that cobber skill over there outside of Toronto was purpose
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: with holding the secrets to a five thousand year old
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 6: legend about Lucifer coming to Earth on an asteroid from Venus. Like,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: the stuff that some of these smaller groups know is
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 6: is very it's very esthetic. And like even the Knights
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 6: of Pithies. I'm gonna try to say that that they
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: had their little building next to the Parthenon, which is
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: a recreation of the real Parthenon, and it and a
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: pyramid in Nashville. So there's something going on with some
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: of these orders.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: You know, tip, who were the Knights of Pythia ancient Greece.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: Pithies was it's I looked into it. It has something
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 6: to do with the Oracle of Delphi or delf.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: The central Order of Delphi was all based around this
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: giant python that was slain by tell me a night now.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: It was what's his name, Apollo? Apollo? Yeah, So Apollo
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: slayed this Pithia, this python, and it went under the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: ground at this mountain to write the base of Mount Carnassis,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: and the priestesses would inhale the fumes from this dead
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: steak and that's what they would use to produce the visions.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: So the Knights of Pythia would be the protectors of
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the oracle. It's a very agent thing. But they changed
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: the story to be about friendship when it hit the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: United States. So those new Knights of Pithia had this
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: other history about friendship and sacrificing yourself for your friends,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: and it's it's very strange, but it's evocative of an
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: ancient Greek style text.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they were bringing in there was a main oracle,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: and then later they brought in a newer tradition of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: bringing in like younger virgin oracles. I think the idea
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: was like, if you bring in these young girls who
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 6: are untouched by the world, they're going to be able
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: to channel better. They're cleaner vessels for the to you know,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 6: to bring out a channel essentially, you know, to bring
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: out messages from somewhere else.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Temple virgins was a common way of showing your appreciation
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: to society back then, So you would donate your daughter
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: to being a temple virgin, and instead of you being
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: in charge of who she marries, the temple would be
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: and they would often put them up for prostitution. So
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: there's this temple prostitute virgin angle that goes along with
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: the ancient religions before Christianity, but that that idea there
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: is that this virginal energy is far more valuable. And
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: so what they would try to do is show, hey,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: this virgin can can be the cavity for the gods.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: She becomes the vessel because she's untouched by man, right,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: That's what we're knocking on the doors. We're knocking on
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 6: the doors of goddess worship here, in my opinion, which
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: is one of the old I mean, it was an old,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: old tradition that got lost. In my opinion, I think
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: the secrets of freemasonry go back to goddess worship largely,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 6: maybe not entire.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Albert Pike talks a little bit about that in his
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: book about that how it goes back to the feli side.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: And I mean, I just have a feeling, you know,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: tell me if I'm wrong, Ernie. But there's got to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: be a that's got to play a part when we're
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: talking about Virginia history.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, I mean when you name it after you know,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: when you name Virginia after the Virgin queen, her whole
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: is she wasn't a virgin by most accounts, but this
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: image of the virgin Queen was super important one. It
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: was important to her because her whole family, they were
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 7: constantly trying to kill them all off and take over
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 7: the takeover the monarchy. And if you had a child
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: one of the big reasons that you know, it's speculated
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 7: that Francis Bacon was the child of Queen Elizabeth and
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 7: Sir Robert Dudley, because if she had a child, then
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 7: there would be a way in one A male heir
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 7: was always better than a female So if she kept
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 7: this pregnancy a secret, and there's there is written proof
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: of a time just before Francis Bacon was born that
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 7: in like fifteen ninety something, I can't remember the exact date,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 7: but where a bunch of people got their heads cut
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: off and their tongues cut out because they went to
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 7: court and then they came back to their little villages
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 7: and whatnot and were like, Hey, I just saw the
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: queen and I don't think she's a virgin anymore. She
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 7: looks pregnant. Yeah. Literally, she made Robert Dudley was his father,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 7: was an advisor to her father, and he was kind
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 7: of a nobody. They were locked in the Tower of
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 7: London together when her sister had her locked in the
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: Tower of London and then when she became clean, she
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 7: up jumped Sir Robert Dudley to her Master of Horse
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 7: or Lord of Horse, so he quite literally.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Was the stable.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 7: Well, do you want me to get into these visuals
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: because I've got got a good amount album and they're
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 7: pretty pretty rad.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna share my screen and uh yeah.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Sure screen. Oh something. I was just showing real quick.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to bring it back up, but for
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: people listening, you can use this cycle guide star and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: Tim was like mentioning, like, you know, sometimes I wonder
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: about these rare weird orders. You can go in there
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: and like type in odd Fellows of Moose Lodge and
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 4: like start looking at places that like have hundreds of
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: thousands of dollars because it shows you how much if
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: there's certain tax breaks, they have to show that shit.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: And I was just showing there there was an odd
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Fellow's lodge. I think it was a few thousand, a
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: few million. It's like, where the fuck is that money
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: coming from? You know, so you have to so wondering
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 4: what is up with these weird lodges that don't seem
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: active anymore? If they got all this fucking money pumping
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 4: through the Moose Lodge in the Elk has got millions of.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 5: Dollars profit thing.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 7: I was a member of the Moose Lodge in Williamsburg
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 7: for one year because they sold they had beer on.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I've heard I've heard somebody else say that.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 5: Until amy and they didn't.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 7: I was working for an alarm company and we did
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 7: the alarm work in there, and I was like, how
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 7: do you become a moose?
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: He's like, you want to be a moose?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 7: And I was like yeah, And he was like fill
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 7: this out and come pick up your membership card.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: That's all I had to do.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 7: But they did still, and it was just I mean
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: it was this like nicotine cigarette smoke, like soaked yeah.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 5: Guys playing like pull tad that's drink. Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 7: But they did have a room off to the side
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: that nobody ever went into that had crazy moose symbol
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 7: of very Masonic moose symbolism, like like like the Masonic
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 7: tracing boards, but like moose themed.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: And they were old and but I mean, did they.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: Have a library? That would be the thing.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: See, I didn't care about that stuff then, was.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Right right, And don't don't that you now.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: Warm beer man.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: That's the thing. Like maybe like some of these orders
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 6: actually had stashes of knowledge and documents and old manuscripts,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 6: and like the Odd Fellows might be one of them.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, even like the Order of the Red Man,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: like when I was reading up on them, very mysterious.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: But they were it seems as if they were inducting
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 6: like Native American shamanism and and uh, what's the other
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: word sorcery, various types of sorcery into their order. So
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: they were whatever they were before. Like if they will
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: say there were Masons, I think a lot of them were.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 6: They were Masons and templars. They start to Order the
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 6: Red Man, they branch off from the Masons. They keep
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: some of the Masonic stuff, but now they're bringing in
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 6: old New World or New American North America and shamanism
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: from the Native Americans. So there's something to that order
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: now right well.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: And and and that that in particular is important because
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 7: our boy Albert Pike, I don't know, after he was
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 7: a general in the Confederacy, he also became like the
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 7: ambassador to the Native American nations.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 5: He was like the guy and he was he had
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: a obsession.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: He got a question about it, He got questioned about it,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: and what did he say? There are brothers over here.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 5: And I think he was along those lines as.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: This guy was a pure racist when it came to
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: black people. But when you mentioned the Native Americans, he
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: was very specific to say that they are our brothers,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: indicating that they had been inducted into the same societies.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 7: And and there's I don't know how much truth there
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 7: is to it, but there is those those threads of
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 7: evidence of possible templar arrival here much earlier and then
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 7: integrating into the Native American tribes.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: And then you've got you know.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: Artie, if you look at the Hope tribes, they have
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: the same secret society everything.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: So does the.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: Matt up In the Natives up near up near, Yeah,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 7: they have they have the same templar imagery. And then
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 7: you've got Jefferson tasking uh uh you know, uh, Lewis
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: and Clark with hey, yeah.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 5: Go do the exploring.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 7: But also I want you to keep an eye out
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 7: for the Mandan, the blue there, the blue eye blonde
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: haired natives.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: The remnants of the mound builders.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and it looks like they came up the their
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: like origin story is they start down in Alabama near
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: that Bay of Mobile where the legend of Prince Maddock,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 7: who was a relative of King Arthur ended up coming
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: out and they have.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: The there's a really weird uh there's a like.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: Petroglyphs in the hills in a national forest in Alabama.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 7: It's like a cliff with a with like a man
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: made wall built around this this cave on the side
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 7: of a cliff and then this man made wall and
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 7: the natives in that area say that white people built
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 7: that and they built it before us.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 5: And then it's so sorry, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, it's so funny that y'all
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: mentioned Albert Pike and how he was supposedly racist and stuff.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: He is actually supposed to be is a rumor that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: he was the founder of the ku Kuk Slan.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: I think, yeah, Pike in Pike in William Bedford Forest.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 5: Brought brought in the clan and it.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 7: Was supposedly to it started offsedly to deal with carpetbaggers,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: and it pretty immediately turned into.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: Just a racist organization. It was.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: I think that that's that's yeah, that's more modern ideas
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: of apple Pike like trying to be anti Mason, I guess,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: but that that is that he is.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: His statue was brought down in twenty twenty. They went
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: there and took it down again. That book that you
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: just held up that was in his hand, in the statue,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: his morals and dogma, and they ripped that down because
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: well he was Southern general and he's the only Southern
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: general in the North. But once you rip that down,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: guess what nobody has any idea how this country's running him.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: Know that Bike was a Confederate, right he was general.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a Confederate general.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: Bron Man, that's great. I want to just see.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: But see when you read when you read him this book,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: it seems like it's all about being good and being
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: a human to another human, being nice, being honorable, being respectful.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: That's what it says in the book. In the book,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: like a lot of it is like it's almost like
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: what would Jesus Christ would be like?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Being a better person, being a person that you know,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: if somebody needed help, you would help them no matter what.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: But then you have the racist ideologies in there that
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: not in the book itself, but about Albert Pike and
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: It's just like, man, what can you believe because what
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: you read in the book is different than what you
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: know about him from modern ideas of it.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 5: And that was his life's work too.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, that was a rumor that he started it.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 6: I didn't know if that was.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a rumor. It is a rumor.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: Nobody knows for one hundred percent for sure. But he
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: was a Confederate general Confederacy in general so well, and
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: he was known that.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: He was definitely also involved in the Knights of the
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 7: Golden Circle, which started before the Civil War, and the
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: definitely was a branch off of these They called them castles,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: the lodges of the Knights of the Golden Circle with castles,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 7: and in the South, the Knights of the Golden Circle
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 7: were kind of defunct on the surface, but still had
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 7: that real secretive part that a lot of people say
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 7: went on even into like sixties seventies. Maybe there are
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 7: still Golden Circle sentinels that patrol the gold that they
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 7: hid in the mountains in Kentucky to this day.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: But they do think that.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 7: The clan kind of was born out of this kind
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: of castle system that was already set up.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Mexico was Mexico was always for sale. So if there's
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Nights of the Golden Circle anywhere, it's anywhere along that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: high Ridge, because that's where they settled, that's where they
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: had trading posts. They were already We.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 7: Should check out You should check out the Virginias for
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 7: Conspiracy Lover's episode with Daniel Duke, who is the great
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 7: great grandson of Jesse James. Jesse James did not die.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 7: He faked his death and changed his name to James L.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: Courtney.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 7: This is James L. Courtney's great great grandson. Dude, Him
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 7: and his mother have done incredible research. And the only
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 7: reason that history books don't say that James L. Courtney
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 7: was Jesse James is because where the town that the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: James Museum and burial is.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: It's like Stratford upon Avon.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 7: That's how all of their And this guy was harassed
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 7: by the Attorney General of Texas while he was doing
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 7: his research to the point where they would just come
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 7: and sit in the archives of the State Library while
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 7: him and his mother were researching, just sit there at
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 7: the table.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: But oh yeah, I treasure up there.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 7: Oh he definitely did. Oh, he definitely did. And this guy,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 7: James L. Courtney, his great great grandfather. There's stories of
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 7: him having a trunk full of gold or no, a
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 7: trunk full of greenbacks that he would make one of
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 7: one of.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 5: The nephews or nieces. They had to count it every night.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: And then there's other stories from the town that he
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 7: grew up and everybody or from the town that he
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: lived in. Everybody in that town knew like, yeah, that's Jesse.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: We just don't talk about it.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 7: And there was a kid he was a child when
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: when Jesse was an old man, this James L. Courtney guy,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 7: and he recruited him one day to go bury What
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 7: he said was like thirty like wheelbarrows full of gold
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 7: bars and go figure. The place where that guy remembers
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 7: it being buried is now owned by the.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 5: Army Corps of Engineers. And there's a lake on top.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 6: Of Forrest is a lake.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: You know what lake that is brown?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 5: I can't remember.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: Close your eyes, look into the darkness, find the blazing star,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: focus on.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: It and it become the eclipse. Don't feel that the
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: show will begin and death, You've the show