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The Ron Verb Show - 3pm Hour Wednesday - 08/19/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: A hot off of an explosive broadcast that we had yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have to have Ted the Conservative dissect it at
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  Speaker 2: some point here on the broadcast. When we were talking
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  Speaker 2: economics last night, Ted the Conservative, G2, and myself, it
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  Speaker 2: was explosive. It was explosive. And with my disagreement with G2,
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  Speaker 2: very explosive segment yesterday. So maybe Ted can dissect all
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  Speaker 2: of that, perhaps sometime this afternoon here on NewsRadio 570.
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  Speaker 2: So keep that in mind. U.S. ally cuts Iran's economic
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  Speaker 2: artery that Trump has struggled to reach. I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: some details on that coming up shortly. How about all
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  Speaker 2: these people, as I mentioned at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: broadcast yesterday, how about these people in this country that
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  Speaker 2: make a big damn deal out of everything? And when
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  Speaker 2: I say everything, I mean flock cameras. Flock cameras. So
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  Speaker 2: many people, for some reason, seem to think the government's
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  Speaker 2: so interested in them and their lives. I mentioned yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll say to you today, cameras are everywhere. So
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  Speaker 2: if you go in a store, you're on camera. If
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  Speaker 2: you go outside, people have ring doorbells, ring cameras all
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  Speaker 2: over the place. I mean, cameras are everywhere. So people
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  Speaker 2: get all upset because your local police department has flock
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  Speaker 2: cameras or they're going to install flock cameras. And I
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  Speaker 2: see some of the people that are upset with my
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  Speaker 2: trustees in Austintown because they made a decision to put
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  Speaker 2: in some flock cameras. And for the life of me,
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  Speaker 2: here I am. I will defend them. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with the decision that they made at all.
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  Speaker 2: Austintown is getting six cameras, not 10, 20 or 50.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting six. in a couple months, so six flock cameras.
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  Speaker 2: And it's a pretty good bet that they'll be placed
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  Speaker 2: in areas that make sense for investigating crimes, where people
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  Speaker 2: flee in vehicles around commercial areas and the main roads.
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  Speaker 2: It's where you're gonna get best use of your flock cameras.
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  Speaker 2: So when I hear people say, oh, it's government intrusion,
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  Speaker 2: you're losing your privacy because when you drive by it,
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  Speaker 2: it grabs a picture of your car and your license
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  Speaker 2: plates and looks to see if it's a stolen car,
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  Speaker 2: are there any warrants and that kind of stuff. The
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  Speaker 2: fly cameras are looking for criminal activity, criminals. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing, it's a good thing. And yet people
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  Speaker 2: seem to make a giant big damn deal out of them.
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  Speaker 2: They're not traffic cameras. They're not going to be used
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  Speaker 2: to mail people speeding tickets, anything like that. So let's
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  Speaker 2: make it clear. Flock cameras are not these speeding camera tickets.
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  Speaker 2: They're simply there for your police departments. They take a
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  Speaker 2: picture of your license plate in your car, runs a
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  Speaker 2: check on that to see if you're guilty of some
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  Speaker 2: criminal activity, if you will. Maybe it's a stolen car.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you just robbed a bank. They're an investigative tool.
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  Speaker 2: Stolen cars, wanted people, be on the lookout, bolos, thefts, robberies, assaults,
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  Speaker 2: property crimes. Where somebody leaves in a vehicle. This is
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  Speaker 2: really to make a community safer. And it will make
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  Speaker 2: Austintown a safer community with six flock cameras. Niles has them.
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  Speaker 2: Canfield has them. City of Canfield has them. Niles has them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of all the places that have
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras. But the people who bellyache and bitch about
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  Speaker 2: them must– I'm not making the connection as to why
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  Speaker 2: they would do such a thing. As I say, these
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  Speaker 2: are an investigative tool. They're there for stolen cars. Wanted
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  Speaker 2: people be on the lookout, say, we're looking for this car.
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  Speaker 2: Just hit a kid on a bike. Thefts, robberies, assaults,
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  Speaker 2: property crimes where somebody leaves in a vehicle. Basically, if
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  Speaker 2: somebody steals your car, breaks into your house, and takes
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  Speaker 2: off before the cops get there, it gives the cops
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  Speaker 2: another way to figure out where that vehicle went or
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  Speaker 2: what direction it went. And that is a good thing. Officers...
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  Speaker 2: Can't just get on there and start looking up random
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  Speaker 2: people because they want to know where somebody is going.
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  Speaker 2: You need a legitimate law enforcement reason for the search
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  Speaker 2: to get on there. I mean, anybody who breaks out
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  Speaker 2: will lose their job, whether that's the existing leads computer
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  Speaker 2: or it's flock cameras. So there's a lot of guardrails
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  Speaker 2: and laws pertinent to these. So they all have their
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  Speaker 2: own logins, have to put in a reason for the search,
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  Speaker 2: All the searches are logged. They can be audited. So
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  Speaker 2: if you ever have an officer that's using it for
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  Speaker 2: something they shouldn't be using it for, there's a record
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  Speaker 2: of it and obviously consequences for that. These flat cameras
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  Speaker 2: do not use facial recognition. I want you to know
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  Speaker 2: that to figure out who's driving. It's looking at license
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  Speaker 2: plates and vehicle information on public roadways. Public roadways. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's an asset in my opinion. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I am just bewildered by the people that just, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they just are running out of things
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  Speaker 2: to bitch about. I don't know if they're just paranoid.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what their problem is. But it's not
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  Speaker 2: a bad idea, in my opinion, as we expand these
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  Speaker 2: in Austintown with six cameras. Canfield City has around 15
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  Speaker 2: to 19 cameras, depending on the point in time you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at. And that's a smaller community than Austintown. They
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  Speaker 2: obviously see a value in them. Boardman's an even bigger comparison.
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  Speaker 2: Boardman Township is about 24 square miles with 40,000 people.
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  Speaker 2: So it's similar to Austintown in both size and population.
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  Speaker 2: Boardman moved forward with flock deployments. It was reported locally
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  Speaker 2: at around 90 cameras. Austintown's talking six. Six. This isn't
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  Speaker 2: something that I fear or I worry about or I
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  Speaker 2: think it's an invasion of privacy. Hey, driving is a privilege.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a right. And with that comes responsibilities. You
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  Speaker 2: got to have insurance, all kinds of stuff. And these
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  Speaker 2: flock cameras are there really for technology. In Austintown, the
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  Speaker 2: police department could use the help. They're understaffed, overworked, operating
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  Speaker 2: at minimum staffing. So if technology can take some of
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  Speaker 2: the workload off the cop or detective and help them
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  Speaker 2: develop a lead faster, how's that a bad thing? And
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  Speaker 2: from a taxpayer standpoint, of which I am one, If
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  Speaker 2: an officer or a detective can get a direction or
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  Speaker 2: location on a suspect vehicle in a few minutes instead
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  Speaker 2: of spending hours driving around, finding businesses and houses with
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  Speaker 2: cameras and then watching videos, that's less manpower and taxpayer
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  Speaker 2: money being spent trying to look for a lead. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't replace the cop. It just cuts down on
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  Speaker 2: some of the time-consuming bullcrap so the cops can move
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  Speaker 2: on to the next call or detectives can work the investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be a bad thing. I mean, I think of
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  Speaker 2: when they stole that ATM from the one bank on
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  Speaker 2: the 46, the credit union over there. What if there
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  Speaker 2: were flock cameras that we had at that time? Would
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  Speaker 2: have probably been a good thing. Because the cops can't
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  Speaker 2: be everywhere. I just don't get the people that fear
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  Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. It's like, well, it's okay for
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  Speaker 2: me to have ring cameras or you to have ring cameras.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay for a store to have cameras. Why do
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  Speaker 2: stores have them? Because of shoplifters. Why do people have them?
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  Speaker 2: Because of security with their own household. But somehow it's
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  Speaker 2: a bad idea for your police department to have them
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  Speaker 2: to try to get the guy who just stole your
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  Speaker 2: car to find your car. Or an Amber Alert on
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  Speaker 2: a child. Or somebody that just robbed a bank or
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  Speaker 2: committed a crime. Somehow this is like a bad idea.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can have privacy concerns about them. And
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  Speaker 2: you can question that. But there's controls on who can
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  Speaker 2: use it and search it. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: to me, it's pretty simple. If someone steals your car,
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  Speaker 2: assaults you, breaks into your house or business, or commits
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  Speaker 2: some other crime and takes off in a vehicle before
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  Speaker 2: the cops get there, it'll give the cops another tool
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  Speaker 2: to try to figure out where they went. Here's a shocker.
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  Speaker 2: The cops aren't that interested in you unless you're a criminal. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I sit back and I hear the people
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  Speaker 2: that are bellyaching about it and I just think, It's technology.
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  Speaker 2: It's a tool to help your police department become more
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  Speaker 2: efficient so that we have a tool that can make,
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  Speaker 2: we can do, we can become more efficient, solve crimes.
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  Speaker 2: And who should fear flock cameras? I'll tell you who. Criminals.
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  Speaker 2: Criminals should fear flock cameras.
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  Speaker 1: Period.
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  Speaker 2: Period. I can assure you the Austin Police Department could
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  Speaker 2: care less. Say, hey, Ron Verp said five guys. They
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  Speaker 2: could care less. They don't care where you are, what
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  Speaker 2: you're doing. That's not the purpose of flock cameras. It's
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  Speaker 2: no different than if you're sitting at a traffic light
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  Speaker 2: and the cops running your license plate to see if
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  Speaker 2: you got any issues, outstanding issues. Driving is a privilege,
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  Speaker 2: not a right. You got to get a license plate.
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  Speaker 2: So something to think about when I hear people bellyaching
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  Speaker 2: about this kind of stuff. It's technology. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: bellyaching about it. As a matter of fact, I'm applauding it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a step in the right direction for
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  Speaker 2: the community in which I live. Boardman has them. Canfield
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  Speaker 2: has them. Niles has it. And we're just getting six.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they should get a couple more, quite frankly, on
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  Speaker 2: some of these major intersections. Because the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I am seeing is we are having more crime. We
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  Speaker 2: are having more issues with that crime. And if this
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  Speaker 2: helps the cops capture the criminals, then I think we're
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  Speaker 2: all better off as a result of it. So many
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  Speaker 2: people are just paranoid. Are they paranoid because everybody's got
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  Speaker 2: a ring camera? You're walking down the street, taking your
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  Speaker 2: dog for a walk, you're probably on a camera. You
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  Speaker 2: go into Walmart, I'm sure they can watch wherever you
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  Speaker 2: are and whatever you're doing. So there you have it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let me see what is awaiting me today
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  Speaker 2: on NewsRadio 570 WKN. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Ron, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: It's Gino. Gino?
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  Speaker 4: Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Gino the commissioner. Commissioner Gino DeFabio.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir. There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, I'd like to weigh in on those cameras.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if people think that they're
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  Speaker 5: building a database on every car that goes by because
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  Speaker 5: the police don't have time to do that.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 5: And like you said, it is a tool. If they're
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  Speaker 5: looking for, say they're looking for a murderer or looking
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  Speaker 5: for a stolen car, and that is the information.
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  Speaker 3: They get immediately.
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  Speaker 5: They don't know if I drive past a thing in
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  Speaker 5: Canfield 12 times, that camera's not going to hit on
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  Speaker 5: me or they're not going to make a log, well,
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  Speaker 5: Gino was here 12 times. That absolutely, I want the
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  Speaker 5: police to have every tool they have, every advantage over
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  Speaker 5: the criminal. If they're looking for an armed robber who
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  Speaker 5: got away in a car and they haven't found him
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  Speaker 5: for a few days. I mean, I've read stories where
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  Speaker 5: they found people like two states over. They saw they
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  Speaker 5: were in an area on a flock camera. I don't
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  Speaker 5: have a problem with them. And I can't see, I
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  Speaker 5: think people aren't getting the message out. I think too
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  Speaker 5: many people are saying, oh, it's government intrusion. They want
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  Speaker 5: to know where you're at all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Nope. Well, they don't care, Gino. They don't care about
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  Speaker 2: where you are.
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  Speaker 7: Ron, they don't have time.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Our sheriffs don't have time. I know Canfield police don't
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  Speaker 5: have time. Austin Town Police, their numbers aren't enough that
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  Speaker 5: they want to see, well, let's see, maybe, hey, why
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  Speaker 5: is Ron driving past again?
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  Speaker 4: That's not, well, yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Is Rod at Chipotle again? My God.
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  Speaker 5: The dispensary's not even open yet. Why is Ron driving
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  Speaker 5: past that at the storefront? But I think people have
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  Speaker 5: to have a better understanding of what they're for.
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  Speaker 3: And you're right.
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  Speaker 5: Everybody's scared of the government. They think, oh, they're doing this,
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  Speaker 5: they're doing that.
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  Speaker 2: But this is ridiculous to be concerned about this at all.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I would say Austintown, we're
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  Speaker 2: late to the game. This makes your police department more efficient.
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  Speaker 2: And the people who should fear them, once again, Gino,
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  Speaker 2: I say, are the criminals. That's who should fear fly cameras.
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  Speaker 5: Especially with the interstate out there. Imagine how many people
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  Speaker 5: trying to get away, use that interstate, and you get
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  Speaker 5: off in Austintown. If you can get those crazies and
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  Speaker 5: those criminals off the street, I say more power to you.
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  Speaker 5: And we still got some room in the jail. Lock
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  Speaker 5: them up in our jail. Get them off the street.
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  Speaker 5: We have to be able to move about safely. The
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  Speaker 5: cops are doing all they can, and I'm all for it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I support anything that helps the police support
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  Speaker 5: our residents and do a better job of protecting them
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  Speaker 5: and serving them.
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  Speaker 2: I'm 100% with you. Any other exciting news you want
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  Speaker 2: to share with us before I got to pause? Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God.
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  Speaker 5: If I wasn't, honest to God, if I wasn't heading
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  Speaker 5: to a meeting right now, I would talk longer.
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  Speaker 2: I'll call you back.
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  Speaker 7: We'll do a story.
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  Speaker 2: We'll do some time. All right. Hang on, Gino. Wait
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  Speaker 2: a second. I want to access my flock camera to
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  Speaker 2: see where you are at the present time. According to
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  Speaker 2: my flock camera, Gino, you're going to the Taco Bell drive-thru.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, I'm going out to our wellness center to meet
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  Speaker 5: with the next, actually, the Attorney General.
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  Speaker 2: He's coming in.
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  Speaker 7: He wants to tour the building.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. All right, Gino. Good hearing you. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, sir. Have a good day.
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  Speaker 2: There you.
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  Speaker 3: Go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with him 100% on this kind of stuff. You
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  Speaker 2: want to be in a safe community. This is a
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  Speaker 2: tool for the police to use that are That's really short-staffed.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the people that are really... I've got to
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  Speaker 2: call them as I see them ragging on my trustees.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous. I just think it's absolutely ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: And people are paranoid, and I don't think it's right.
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  Speaker 2: You're on air. Hey, Ron.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm well, sir. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't think the clock cameras have... been
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  Speaker 3: sold to the public as its sole purpose. It has
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  Speaker 3: a lot to do with the data centers that are
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  Speaker 3: being built and whether or not we can solve crimes
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  Speaker 3: with these cameras is one way or the other. I
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  Speaker 3: could have swore we passed a bunch of levees and
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  Speaker 3: mills to have..
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  Speaker 2: Well, stand by for me. Let me do my break
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  Speaker 2: and come back to you, all right? Hang in there
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  Speaker 2: for a minute. I'll let him finish his thoughts when
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  Speaker 2: I come back after these messages.
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  Speaker 2: And Ron Firm from the Kingdom of Mahoning here. On
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  Speaker 2: this Wednesday, August 19th, 82 degrees. All right, sir. Sir,
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  Speaker 2: hello there. Pay attention.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, take it from the top. What is it
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  Speaker 2: that you wanted to contribute?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so... We're having flock cameras installed around the country.
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  Speaker 3: And at the same time, we're having these data centers
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  Speaker 3: installed as well. We've passed levies. Everybody's paying taxes for
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  Speaker 3: what we've already allowed the police to do their jobs with.
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  Speaker 3: I think what is going above and beyond the... Flock cameras.
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  Speaker 3: It is a violation of everybody's movement. Our cars are
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  Speaker 3: tracked with GPS. Our phones are tracked with GPS. What
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  Speaker 3: more could they possibly be looking for?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to tell you. I mean, you just
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  Speaker 2: bring this up. You have a cell phone and probably
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  Speaker 2: anything that you Google. If you ever Google something, next
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  Speaker 2: thing you know, you get an ad for it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: so that's part of the terms and condition. So you
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  Speaker 2: can choose not to have a cell phone if that's
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  Speaker 2: the case. You're talking about all of this other stuff
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  Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with law enforcement. Fly cameras
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  Speaker 2: are there for one purpose, to aid police in catching
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  Speaker 2: criminals in your community. That is the sole purpose of them.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we've.
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  Speaker 3: Been told, Ron. Well, what do you think they're doing?
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  Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying, and I believe that the police...
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  Speaker 3: and I don't want criminals running through our streets getting
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  Speaker 3: away with lawlessness, but what if you're driving a car
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: without tags on it? You know, this is ridiculous. It's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: all the other people that aren't doing crime that are
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: being a victim of this kind of surveillance. And this
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: is exactly what it boils down to. And the people
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: that are building these..
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Are you that paranoid? For example..
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: No, it's not paranoia, Ron.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: Listen, I pay taxes.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Well, wait a minute.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I don't give a damn. I pay car payments. I
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: pay car payments. I do the same thing you do
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: every day. But guess what?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: What?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I don't appreciate the ability for somebody else to take
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: it one step further than what you know about. And
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: that's what's coming.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I think I know about it. I'm not fear
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: about what's coming.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: They take the illegals out of the country. They're more
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: worried about who the other..
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: That's a whole different topic.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: The tag on their car? What about the illegal stuff
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: that goes on?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Well, if you don't have a tag on your car,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: that's probably something that should get the attention of a
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: cop and or a flock camera, don't you think?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Exactly, but that flock camera is inoperable when you don't
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: have a tag on your car. And the things that,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: and I'll tell you what, there is no proof that
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: they don't do facial recognition because they do.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I told you they do not. I'm telling you for
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a fact.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm telling you they do.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? What is it based on? If you're telling
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: me they do.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It's all China technology. This did just come out of
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: a whim for the United States to just stand firm
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: on criminal activity. Well, we've got congressmen and senators ripping
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: our country off.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Hey, pal, I live in Austintown, Ohio. If somebody steals
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: my car, I'm not worried about what the congressman is doing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about if my car is stolen that they
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: can get it and get it back to me. I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: worried about if somebody robs the bank that they can
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: determine where they're going when they.
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: Stole the ATM.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: You know what that is? That's called technology. Are you
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: concerned that I've got a ring camera, sir?
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: That thought process just tells me that by the time
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you find out or the time that you've heard about it,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: it's too late.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You are not that interesting. You are not that interesting.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: The cops don't care about you. The government doesn't care
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: about you. The only thing they care about is if
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you rob the bank. They don't care. You're not that interesting.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: You're not under surveillance. You're not.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: That's why they put flock cameras up, because we're not interesting.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: What does a flock camera do? You're wrong, Ron.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I love you, brother, but you're wrong on this.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You don't know what you're talking about. I'll find out
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: in 10 years. You don't know what you're talking about.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: It's nothing but paranoid nonsense. And I do mean paranoid nonsense.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: If this makes my police department more efficient with the
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: staffing it has to catch criminals in my community, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: support it. That flock camera is taken, does not have
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: facial recognition. It's taking a picture of your car and
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: a license plate. And just as a cop can do
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: when he's sitting behind you or when you drive by
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: an intersection. And guess what? It catches criminals. It's there
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: for people that are breaking the law. You, sir. Everything
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you said was inaccurate. I'll be back. News Radio 570 WKVN.
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: A family of a man who was fatally shot by
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: an Akron police officer is filing a $ 10 million lawsuit
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: against the department. 54-year-old Michael Jones was shot in August
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: of 2024. during the investigation of a stolen U-Haul in Kenmore.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: The officer was later cleared of any criminal wrongdoing. The
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: lawsuit claims that the officer took an unnecessary, unreasonable risk
• 23:47
  Speaker 8: when he jumped into the moving U-Haul. Bond is set
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: at $ 50, 000 for a Toledo woman accused of stabbing a
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: man Tuesday morning. Police say 34-year-old Alyssa Casella stabbed the
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: 39-year-old victim in the back during an argument. In Mahoning County,
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: a man charged in the killing of his half-brother is
• 24:04
  Speaker 8: pleading not guilty. Isaiah Donaldson was shot to death back
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: in June at a home on Bonita Avenue. Isaac Chapman
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: pleaded not guilty yesterday to a charge of involuntary manslaughter.
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: I'm Andy Betts.
• 24:16
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• 24:28
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• 24:34
  Speaker 2: He loves me and I love him. But we strongly
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: disagree on this. And what he was saying was factually
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: not true. It's just, it's totally false. It's totally untrue.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: But we'll just say it anyway, even though it's not true.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just, it's ridiculous. I don't know that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you even have an expectation of privacy when you're out
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: in public, incidentally. You take a dog for a walk
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: down the streets. I can assure you you're on somebody's
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: ring camera as you're driving down the streets, as you're
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: walking down. How many times have those ring cameras that
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: citizens own helped solve crime in neighborhoods? People breaking into cars,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: stealing cars, whatever. How often do you see on Facebook
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: where they post these pictures? Hey, do you know who
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: this guy is? We're looking for him because he just
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: stole a bunch of stuff from Home Depot or Walmart's.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Have you ever noticed the pictures that they put out
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: there are crystal clear anymore? They're not those grainy black
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and white ones of years ago. It's like a professional
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: photographer has taken a lot of these pictures that you
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: see from people that are shoplifting from Walmart. Should we say,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: how dare them invade that person's privacy and put their
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: picture out there because they're stealing stuff? They're criminals. They
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: don't put your picture out there. I mean, when you
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: walk in Walmarts, when you're in a parking lot of
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Walmarts or in the store, you're on camera. And that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: how they do their security. Because we got so many
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: thieves anymore who steal stuff. Whether it's at Walmarts, at Meijer,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Home Depot. Are they all supposed to have four cops
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: working there? The police department only has so many people
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that a community can afford. If you can give up
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: state-of-the-art technology, and these aren't new cameras. Flock cameras have
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: been around a long time. Have you felt your privacy's
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: been violated when you're in City Canfield or Boardman or Niles?
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I would say six cameras in Austintown isn't enough. They
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: should probably have some more. But anybody that's, sometimes I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: think people think that the government has that much time
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: to really be concerned about you specifically. I mean, most
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: people are pretty much anonymous. You take, for example, you
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: file your tax returns. That's all supposed to be private.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You had a guy that stole Trump's tax return information
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: and put it out there in Sean Hannity's. But that
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: guy ended up going to jail, as he should have.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Because that's against the law. And quite frankly, the New
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: York Times, which published it, I don't know if they
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: sued him or not. I didn't follow it through that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: But they should have been held accountable for that as well.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: This is the reality. So occasionally, can you have cops
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that are... Abuse elite system, well, we know what's happened
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: and we know what's happened to them. Just as if
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: this is abused. And it has to have ramifications and
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: it does. But if it makes it easier on you
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: or on the cops to catch criminals, we should support it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I certainly do. All right, News Radio 570, WKVN, you're
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: on the air.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, you're making a great case for your flock cameras.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: However, I'd like to throw a couple things at you
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: and let's see what you think. Okay, there are safeguards
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: and guardrails on it now that they're only allowed to
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: do certain things. What about under the next administration or
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: your next governor? What if they take those off?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: They're not going to.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Take it off.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: How do you know? What if instead of 600 in
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: your neighborhood and on both ends of your street?
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Listen, what if this? What if that? I'm not going
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to deal with the what ifs. Here's the reality.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: It's called a slippery slope, Ron.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's called paranoia. Are you paranoid when you go to
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: the city of Canfield? They have flock cameras. Does it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: bother you? Does it bother you that they're in Boardman
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: or in Niles?
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: No.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: It takes a picture of your license plate if your
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: car is stolen. It takes a picture if you had
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: grabbed a child and abducted a child so that we
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: can rescue that kid. You robbed a bank. It's a
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: tool for the police where police departments are stretched pretty
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: thin and budgets are pretty thin to be able to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: apprehend criminals. Is that a good thing?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's a good thing. That's why I say you
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: make a good point. But what if they take it further?
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: But what if there are no what ifs? I tell
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: you what.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: How about the next time the Democrats get in charge
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: and decide to shut the country down and there's a
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: flock coming right in front of your house, you step outside,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: you get a notification, Ron Verb, why are you outside
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: of your house? This is a shutdown.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, believe it when I see it,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: because you can what if constantly. But you know what?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You should be more concerned about just having a digital
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: money supply. That would be more of an issue with
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that with your federal governments. You have a cell phone.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Do you have a cell phone?
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Well, gee, do you Google anything?
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Absolutely. And I know what you're saying there.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. So why is it wrong for the police department
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: to have a tool to apprehend criminals in the community
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: in which I live, which I would support?
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: There's nothing wrong with that.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: But you want to come forward.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: They can be abused very easily. And you say they
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: don't have time to watch everybody. Of course they don't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: But AI does. The data centers do.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Well, these aren't data centers. Flock cameras have been around
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: a long time before data centers have been around.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: And they can't tie those flock cameras into the data
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: centers and record absolutely everything all the time and compile
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: lists of whatever they want to now?
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Of what? What are you worried about them compiling? Are
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you worried about them compiling a list that you went
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to Giant Eagle, Five Guys, and then you also got
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Ice Cream at Handles? Do you honestly think anybody gives
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a damn about that with you?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Ron, it is surveillance, and it can be abused under
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: the wrong administration.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: I guess we should do it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: You haven't watched any movies about the future.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Have you? All right. Thanks. You're on the air. Some
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: people are just paranoid. This is crazy. Hello? Hello?
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Calm down, Ron. You've had a couple of days where
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: you're really getting riled up here.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I know. It's not good for my ticker at my age.
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: No, it is not. But honestly, you have a point
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: and they have a point.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they have a point because they
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: want to deal with the, it could be, what if,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: what if this happens or whatever. I'm dealing with the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: reality right here, right now, what they use for and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: what the law is. I'm not dealing with paranoid speculation
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: on it. I'm dealing that if a child is abducted
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: in Austintown, this can help save that child because we
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: can know where this car is. Or somebody is coming
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: into town who just killed somebody. This is what flock
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: cameras are used for.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Yes, but with anything, it could be the start of
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: something more. That's all the people that are calling are
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: trying to say. You know, like anything, like, you know, look,
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: you know, you can go to any subject. When they
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: said about women's rights, okay? And they said, oh, they
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: have a right over their body, which, you know, does
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: make sense. But they've taken it all the way to
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: the extreme now. You can kill your baby at nine months.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: So it's a step that they're taking no matter which
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: area you talk about, whether it's health care, whether it's
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: gas gouging, whether.
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: It's the war.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: You know, there's always more than one point. And that's
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: all people are saying. Something gets a start, and then
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: before you know it, it gets full-blown. And then we've
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: lost everything. There's no going back. I agree with you.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: It's a good safety thing for children. God forbid if
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: they're abducted. If it was your child or anybody's child,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: you would want that person to be caught. Now, in
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: my situation, I have, you know, I'm going to say
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: two different, it's going to sound like I'm talking about
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: both sides of my mouth, but I'm just trying to
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: make a point. I called because I had gotten one
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: of those tickets with the, Not where the police come
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: to your car, but with a camera.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: I was going 34, so it said, and a 20
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: at the college area.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: And so I called and I asked, you know, Beatrice,
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: you know, that day on Thursday when they talked about
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: if you have any questions. And different people gave different
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: comments that... that evening when I said, should I pay
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: it or not? I'm responsible. I did realize I was
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: going over. Do I pay it or, you know, should
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: I not? And they said, well, David Beatrice said you
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: shouldn't because when he said I wouldn't pay it, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: so then I didn't pay it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: I took his advice. I didn't pay it. Then next
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: thing you know, a couple of months go by every month.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: I didn't pay it. It's $ 20 added on $ 20. Right.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: So the point is, you know, I have a conscience
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: and I wanted to do the right thing. I wanted
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: to admit that I was going over. Was it right
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: that they didn't physically give me a ticket? You know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: I have mixed feelings on that. But anyway, so I
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: did call and I asked about it just for people
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: that this may happen to. I'm giving what happened to me.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: They could do what they want. But you brought this
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: up the other day saying one guy was bragging that
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: he got nine of them and he didn't pay any
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: of them. Well, the point with that is That's causing irresponsibility.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: If you get a ticket, no matter which way you
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: get it, pay it. You did something wrong.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: All right. Listen, you can do whatever you want to
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: do on them. You're asking a legal question. And from
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a legal question standpoint, just so you understand. When you
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: get that ticket, if you don't pay it, nothing's going
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: to happen to you. They're going to send you a
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: letter saying the fee goes up or the fee goes
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: up or it's going to go to collection and nothing's
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: going to happen. That's the answer from a legal standpoint
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: if you own your car and you're not leasing your car.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: If you lease your car, you better pay it because
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: when the lease is due, you're going to have to
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: pay it. So that's what the answer is from a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: legal standpoint. So, no, you will you be quiet? You
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: can you can choose. You have that. You don't have
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to call us. You could pay it. You could pay
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: the fine. You can do whatever you choose to do.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: You have the freedom to do that. They're merely understand
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: and telling you what the law is and what the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: ramifications are, which, since I host that show, was what
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: your question was. Which is exactly what you ask, and
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: now you're bitching about the answer.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: No, no, I'm not.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, you are.
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: No, listen, please, don't interrupt. I'm trying to tell you
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: what happened. I didn't finish the story. When I called,
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: I asked questions, and the police officer said that it
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: was an Ohio police constitution that it is legal you
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: have to pay it so i told him i'm a
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: i'm a senior citizen i'm on oh for.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: The love of god i remember your call you got
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: a camera ticket right.
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: Yes but the point is i did pay it and
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: they reduced they took off that okay great i don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: care but you should care i don't.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Care I honest to God, listen to me, sit down.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I don't care what you do with it. I don't
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: care if you don't pay it. I don't care if
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you do pay it. You can make it's freedom. You
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: can do what you want in your world. I've said
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: this a million times, but you don't comprehend it. Your
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: call was a legal call. What happens if I don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: pay it? It was answered by saying, do you lease
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: your car? No, I own my car. That is what
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you said. So if you don't pay it, here's the process.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: They'll say that you owe more money. And then they'll say,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: after that, you're going to collections. And if you don't
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: pay it, nothing happens. There's no points to go on
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: your driver's license. It's not going to increase your insurance.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: They answered your question from a legal standpoint. Now, the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: final decision, as they said, incidentally, on a call was,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: you can choose to pay it or not. It's up
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  Speaker 2: to you. And if you said to them, would you
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: pay it? And they said, no, that's their decision. So
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: what are you calling me and bitching about?
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  Speaker 6: I'm not bitching, Ron. I'm trying to explain.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe next time, you know, what's the benefits, as
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I say on that show, as I will say to you?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Guess what? Here's the benefits of the cameras. They do
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: get people to slow down. The reality is when people
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: know they're there, they do slow down. And so they
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: are effective on it. And there you have it. But
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: this is not what a flock camera is. So I'm
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: not here to talk about your speeding ticket or these
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: camera tickets. I'm talking about flock cameras in the community
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  Speaker 2: in which I live, which are there to catch criminals.
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  Speaker 2: There's no more speculating, oh, they could do this, they
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: could do that. None of that's happening. None of that's
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: in the law. None of that is what it's used for.
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  Speaker 6: Can I ask you something, Ron? While we're on the subject, okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: you made a comment about if you rent your car. Now,
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: do you think that's right? If you're renting your car
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: or leasing it or whatever, you don't have to pay it.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Why is that? Because you don't own your vehicle because
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: it's a leased car and the license plate is owned
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: by the leasing company. And as a result of that,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: it goes against them because you were driving it and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you have to pay it. That's why. Thanks for your call.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Honest to God, I'm on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, right here, she must forget I host that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: show with the attorneys. I remember her call and what
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: she said. Well, what happens if I don't pay it? Well,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: here's your answer. So she can choose to pay it. Hey, listen,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: the bottom line is, in all reality, if you know
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: they're there, you shouldn't be speeding. Now, it's different if
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: a cop... But see, this clouds the discussion because I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: not here to talk about camera tickets. I'm here to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: talk about flock cameras, a totally different thing that has
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with you speeding. Nothing. It has everything
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to do with you as a criminal. And criminals should...
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Fear flock cameras. The police don't care what you're doing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: You're on air.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, how you doing?
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: You know what they say in Youngstown, don't you?
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: Get the flock out of here. We don't want them cameras.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Why don't you?
• 40:34
  Speaker 9: Because the longer it takes for them to solve a crime,
• 40:37
  Speaker 9: the more overtime the police and the detectives make.
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: They don't care about anything else.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Well, that's foolish. That's why they have flock cameras.
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, but have you ever dealt with the
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: city of Youngstown?
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  Speaker 3: They're foolish.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a phone number.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: 330-742-8911.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: If you could have someone call that.
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  Speaker 4: I bet you the voice box is.
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: Filled, and we can't take your call right now.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know what the number's for.
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: The Youngstown detectives.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: All right, so they're busy. I don't know if you
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of crime in Youngstown.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: For four weeks?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. What crime are you... What crime do
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you have? What's going on?
• 41:26
  Speaker 9: I got a rental property.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Uh-huh. Stand by.
• 41:30
  Speaker 9: The guy's stealing the aluminum.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Stand by. I want to hear this in a minute.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: News Radio 570. Go ahead with your.
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: The issue was the neighbors called and said the siding
• 41:48
  Speaker 9: is getting ripped off of your house. So I went
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: down there. The next-door neighbor comes pulling in when the
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: cops showed up, and he was the one who was
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: stealing the siding. So two people saw him stealing the siding.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: I'm there.
• 42:05
  Speaker 9: He says, I got permission to remove the siding off
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: this house.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: And I said, I'm the owner.
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: I didn't give no permission. So the police wrote out
• 42:12
  Speaker 9: an incident report. You could go down in three days
• 42:15
  Speaker 9: and get a police report. So I went down like
• 42:18
  Speaker 9: an idiot and got a police report. Don't go there
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: at lunchtime, by the way.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: They all go out to lunch, can't get a police report.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Can you get to the point? I don't care about
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: any of this except the point.
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: Okay, the point is try to make a case against him.
• 42:33
  Speaker 9: Call the prosecutor. Call the detectives. You can't call the detectives.
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: The phone's been full for four weeks now. And what
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: am I supposed to do? Called the mayor's office, pushed
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: the button for one for mayor, rings, rings, rings, no
• 42:47
  Speaker 9: one even answers it. I mean, the city's a joke.
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: It's like that Sobe thing. Oh, we don't want it.
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: But now that they have to pay their increase in prices,
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: maybe we should have took the Sobe thing. I mean,
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: all this stuff, Youngstown is like, you know, time lost
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: a long time ago.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Well, why don't you move?
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: I don't live there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: It's just a rental property.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. So you did move.
• 43:09
  Speaker 9: 30 years ago.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: All right. So why don't you sell your rental property?
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: Well, that's another one. It was up for sale. I
• 43:22
  Speaker 9: had a contract to finish it up, but they took
• 43:26
  Speaker 9: the siding off before and did about $ 30, 000 damage, according
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: to the estimate. Then it was vacant at the time
• 43:33
  Speaker 9: for about six weeks. The insurance company won't kick in.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Because they can't insure vacant houses. Right, exactly right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's exactly right, but the city's exactly wrong.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Well, you've got to be. You're saying, hey, somebody was
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: standing on a siding, you were there, and then you
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: should pursue it, obviously. Go down and talk. You need
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: to physically go down, talk to the police chief, talk
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: to the mayor, go to the office, try to ask
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: your question and listen. Don't be an a-hole and see
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: what the answer is. And then go to the prosecutor's office.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: That's what I would suggest you do. This has nothing
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: to do with my discussion on flock cameras, though. I
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: appreciate your call. We'll pause momentarily. on News Radio 570
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: WKBN for the news break at 4. Then we'll come
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: back with more. We'll take your calls till 6 tonight.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: 330-729-9977 will get you through to me. 330-729-9977. We'll get
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: you through on News Radio 570 WKBN. See, people want
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: to confuse everything. Well, speeding cameras, it's a whole different subject.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: This guy with his problem with the police department, a
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: whole different subject. I'm merely talking about flock cameras in
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: my community in the city of Canfield that make your
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: police officers more efficient and a bunch of paranoid people
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: who think there's more to them than there happens to be.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And there isn't. And that's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. We'll be
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: back in a minute. I don't know what that was.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: On News Radio 570, WKBN and Ron Verb from the
• 44:57
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