Latest / The Breakfast Club / DONKEY: Hakeem Jeffries & Chuck Schumer Are Being Called To Step Down If They Can’t Step Up.
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- 0:01Speaker 1: This is America.
- 0:04Speaker 2: There is no question that there are problems in this
- 0:07Speaker 2: country between police and community.
- 0:11Speaker 1: You are a donkey.
- 0:13Speaker 2: The latest on that police killing of a black man.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Now to new developments in the deadly spa shooting rampage.
- 0:18Speaker 1: It was a really bad day for him, and this
- 0:20Speaker 1: is what he did. And so we are in a
- 0:22Speaker 1: state of emergency.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Okay, white supremacist violence is and always has been the
- 0:27Speaker 3: number one threat to our society.
- 0:29Speaker 1: But I'm also very proud that my wife is white.
- 0:33Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club, bitches! All right, Charmaine, please tell me,
- 0:36Speaker 1: why was I your donkey.
- 0:38Speaker 4: Of the day?
- 0:40Speaker 3: Well, donkey of the day for Friday, November 6th, is
- 0:43Speaker 3: going to the Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House
- 0:46Speaker 3: Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries. Now, this past November 3rd, I
- 0:49Speaker 3: saw something that I never saw in my lifetime on
- 0:51Speaker 3: an election night. We are underselling it when we say
- 0:54Speaker 3: it was a historic election night. OK, some people say
- 0:57Speaker 3: an historic night for Democrats.
- 0:59Speaker 1: That's part of it.
- 0:59Speaker 3: But what I saw was America taking its power back
- 1:03Speaker 3: from an administration that was hell bent on being a
- 1:05Speaker 3: fascist regime.
- 1:06Speaker 1: OK, a complete and total rebuke of 10 years of MAGA.
- 1:09Speaker 3: OK, Trump has done such a terrible job in this
- 1:12Speaker 3: country that Texas, South Carolina, Georgia and Kansas went blue. OK,
- 1:16Speaker 3: and as a result, Democrats won back control of Congress.
- 1:19Speaker 3: But there's a conversation happening inside the Democratic Party that
- 1:22Speaker 3: deserves just as much attention as the election results. And
- 1:26Speaker 3: that's whether Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries should continue leading
- 1:29Speaker 3: the party.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Let the record show.
- 1:31Speaker 3: That your friendly neighborhood bad guy, Charlemagne the God, has
- 1:34Speaker 3: been telling you for well over a year that Chuck
- 1:36Speaker 3: Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries should step down. So it warms
- 1:39Speaker 3: my cold heart to see so many people calling for
- 1:42Speaker 3: the same thing now. I saw Peggy Flanagan asking them
- 1:45Speaker 3: to step down. I saw Annie Andrews in South Carolina.
- 1:48Speaker 1: I saw Dr. Abdul Syed saying the same thing. I
- 1:51Speaker 1: was reading a letter.
- 1:53Speaker 3: To the editor in the Portland Press Herald from Timothy
- 1:56Speaker 3: Stevens of Norway, Maine. The headline was Schumer and Jeffrey
- 2:00Speaker 3: simply do not get it. And Timothy raises a question,
- 2:03Speaker 3: you know, worth asking, a question I've been asking. What
- 2:06Speaker 3: kind of leadership does the Democratic Party actually need?
- 2:09Speaker 1: Fantastic question. And I am here to provide some.
- 2:12Speaker 3: Answers because I like to tell you the why of things. OK,
- 2:15Speaker 3: why do I have a problem with the Democratic establishment?
- 2:18Speaker 3: I have actually have four. OK, the first one is
- 2:21Speaker 3: I need to know that when the interests of working
- 2:24Speaker 3: class Americans conflict with the interests of corporate America and
- 2:28Speaker 3: powerful foreign policy lobbying organizations, the people leading this party,
- 2:32Speaker 3: Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, are prepared to put working
- 2:36Speaker 3: Americans first.
- 2:37Speaker 1: And I don't think Schumer and Jeffries.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Have answered that question convincingly enough, okay? Look at the economy,
- 2:42Speaker 3: all right? Democrats spent this election talking about affordability. We
- 2:45Speaker 3: all know rent is too high. Healthcare is too expensive.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Groceries cost too much. People are working every day and
- 2:50Speaker 3: still struggling. So what are we prepared to do about it? Okay,
- 2:54Speaker 3: now I know Trump is in office for two more years,
- 2:56Speaker 3: even though I don't think he's gonna make it, but
- 2:58Speaker 3: that's a combo for next week. So I'm not really
- 3:00Speaker 3: expecting Dems to be able to do too much, but
- 3:02Speaker 3: Hakeem and Chuck, are we going to.
- 3:05Speaker 1: Confront Corporate price gouging where it's happening.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Are we going to make corporations pay their fair share
- 3:10Speaker 3: in taxes?
- 3:11Speaker 1: Are we going to challenge monopolies?
- 3:13Speaker 3: Are we going to strengthen workers' bargaining power and make
- 3:15Speaker 3: health care more affordable? Are we going to keep telling
- 3:20Speaker 3: Americans we understand their pain while protecting the relationships that
- 3:24Speaker 3: help finance political campaigns?
- 3:26Speaker 1: Okay? Second problem. Let's talk about Israel.
- 3:30Speaker 3: OK, in July, one hundred and three House Democrats voted
- 3:32Speaker 3: for an amendment to cut military aid to Israel.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries voted against it.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Now, Hakeem said the amendment was too broad and could
- 3:39Speaker 3: interfere with humanitarian assistance and other programs.
- 3:41Speaker 1: That's his explanation. And people should hear it. But here's
- 3:44Speaker 1: the question. What specific conditions would change?
- 3:47Speaker 3: You support placing on American military assistance to Israel Hakeem
- 3:51Speaker 3: because you can't keep saying American policy needs to change
- 3:55Speaker 3: without explaining what you're actually prepared to change. And I
- 3:58Speaker 3: have questions about Chuck Schumer's position, too. What should happen
- 4:01Speaker 3: when the policies of the Israeli government conflict with American
- 4:05Speaker 3: interests or international humanitarian law? What standards should apply to
- 4:09Speaker 3: our allies? What consequences should follow when those standards are violated?
- 4:14Speaker 3: Those aren't unreasonable questions.
- 4:16Speaker 1: They're questions leadership should be able to answer. Third problem.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Hakeem and Chuck never seem like they really want to win.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Everything seems like establishment self-preservation. And this brings me to
- 4:28Speaker 3: the Washington Generals. What the hell are you talking about,
- 4:30Speaker 3: Uncle Charlotte, the Washington Generals? Yes, the Washington Generals. Y'all
- 4:33Speaker 3: know the Washington Generals, the team that plays the Harlem Globetrotters. OK,
- 4:37Speaker 3: the Generals, they wear uniforms, they got coaches, they run plays,
- 4:40Speaker 3: they show.
- 4:40Speaker 1: Up to compete.
- 4:41Speaker 3: But everybody understands it's just entertainment. OK, the Globetrotters are
- 4:44Speaker 3: the attraction and the Generals.
- 4:46Speaker 1: They're there to play the opposition.
- 4:49Speaker 3: And that's the comparison I make when I look at
- 4:51Speaker 3: establishment Democrats competing. like Hakeem and Chuck, going up against Republicans.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Plenty of speeches, plenty of outrage, plenty of fundraising emails
- 4:58Speaker 3: telling everybody how important the next fight is, but they're
- 5:01Speaker 3: not really trying to win.
- 5:02Speaker 1: They are controlled opposition.
- 5:04Speaker 3: But when progressive Democrats challenge establishment leadership, oh, now they
- 5:08Speaker 3: want to fight.
- 5:09Speaker 1: OK, the fight looks very different.
- 5:11Speaker 3: OK, now we're talking about primary endorsements and campaign spending
- 5:14Speaker 3: and control the party committees and who gets to decide
- 5:17Speaker 3: which ideas are considered politically acceptable. And I want to
- 5:21Speaker 3: know why that internal fight sometimes seems more intense than
- 5:24Speaker 3: the fight over corporate power. in health care costs and
- 5:28Speaker 3: the influence of money in Washington, because the criticism isn't
- 5:31Speaker 3: simply that Democratic leaders lose the Republicans. It's that they
- 5:34Speaker 3: appear comfortable fighting Republicans within the existing political system, while
- 5:39Speaker 3: progressives are challenging whether that system itself needs to change.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Those are two very different fights, people. OK, progressives, from
- 5:46Speaker 3: what I see, they actually trying to win. Now there
- 5:48Speaker 3: are legitimate disagreements about what policies can pass and how
- 5:51Speaker 3: to win elections and how to govern a diverse coalition.
- 5:54Speaker 1: I get all that.
- 5:55Speaker 3: But if party leadership can gather resources to defend its
- 5:59Speaker 3: own political positions, voters have every right to ask how
- 6:02Speaker 3: that same determination translates into confronting powerful economic interests okay
- 6:09Speaker 3: the Washington generals comparison it's not about whether Democrats you
- 6:13Speaker 3: know like Hakeem and Chuck know how to compete it's
- 6:15Speaker 3: about whether they're willing to change the game they're playing
- 6:19Speaker 3: and actually try to win fourth and final problem okay
- 6:23Speaker 3: after the midterms Hakeem Jeffries said Democrats aren't focused on
- 6:27Speaker 3: uh retribution or revenge let's listen.
- 6:30Speaker 1: So, Mr.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Speaker-elect, let me ask you, how do you keep your
- 6:33Speaker 4: caucus focused on the things that got them elected, on
- 6:38Speaker 4: the cost of gas, the cost of diesel, the cost
- 6:40Speaker 4: of groceries, the cost of rent, the cost of health care,
- 6:43Speaker 4: instead of retribution? You know, Donald Trump said, I am
- 6:46Speaker 4: your retribution. He spent two years on a campaign of retribution,
- 6:51Speaker 4: and he got wiped out. His party got wiped out.
- 6:54Speaker 4: How do you now say, hey— Let's not look behind us.
- 6:58Speaker 4: We'll let the oversight committees do what they do. But
- 7:00Speaker 4: we're going to focus on bringing costs down.
- 7:03Speaker 1: For working Americans.
- 7:04Speaker 2: The American people don't want us to get even. They
- 7:07Speaker 2: want us to get things done on their behalf because
- 7:12Speaker 2: life is way too expensive. We ran on affordability. We
- 7:16Speaker 2: won on affordability. And now it's our job to govern
- 7:20Speaker 2: on affordability.
- 7:21Speaker 1: Oh, I can't.
- 7:22Speaker 3: We want you to do both. OK, nobody is asking
- 7:25Speaker 3: you to seek revenge. We're asking about accountability. You keep
- 7:28Speaker 3: saying affordability and accountability. OK, but asking you to seek
- 7:32Speaker 3: accountability is different than asking you to seek revenge.
- 7:35Speaker 1: Those are two completely different things.
- 7:36Speaker 3: OK, the next person who interviews Hakeem Jeffries, ask him,
- 7:40Speaker 3: why does he keep saying affordability and accountability? Ask him,
- 7:43Speaker 3: what does accountability look like? Because that's what we the
- 7:46Speaker 3: people want. We know where revenge is. Revenge is going
- 7:48Speaker 3: after somebody because they did something to you. Accountability is
- 7:51Speaker 3: investigating whether somebody broke the law, abused their power, or
- 7:54Speaker 3: violated the public trust. Revenge is personal. Accountability is about
- 7:58Speaker 3: the rule of law.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Okay?
- 8:00Speaker 3: So when Democrats talk about investigating alleged corruption in the
- 8:04Speaker 3: Trump administration, I don't want that conversation confused with political retaliation.
- 8:09Speaker 3: If there are legitimate allegations involving Trump's business interests and
- 8:14Speaker 3: government contracts and You know, conflicts of interest are abuses
- 8:17Speaker 3: of power. Congress has a responsibility to examine that evidence.
- 8:20Speaker 1: OK. And if those investigations uncover criminal wrongdoing, so be it. OK.
- 8:24Speaker 3: The evidence should be referred to the appropriate authorities. That
- 8:28Speaker 3: standard applies to Democrats, too.
- 8:30Speaker 1: OK.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Now, Chuck and Hakeem have both expressed support for investigations.
- 8:34Speaker 1: So that's important.
- 8:35Speaker 3: But the real test comes when Democrats have the power
- 8:38Speaker 3: to conduct meaningful investigations.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Oversight?
- 8:41Speaker 3: Will they issue subpoenas when necessary? Will they hold public hearings?
- 8:44Speaker 3: Will they follow the evidence even when politically inconvenient? Will
- 8:48Speaker 3: they make their findings available to the American people? They
- 8:51Speaker 3: should because nobody should be above accountability and nobody should
- 8:54Speaker 3: be targeted simply because of their political affiliation. Once again,
- 8:58Speaker 3: accountability isn't revenge.
- 8:59Speaker 1: It's what happens when.
- 9:00Speaker 3: The rule of law matters more than the person being investigated.
- 9:04Speaker 1: And that's the standard. Okay. The bare minimum.
- 9:08Speaker 3: Democratic leadership should be expected to uphold.
- 9:11Speaker 1: And if you can't do that, bye. OK, and I
- 9:13Speaker 1: give Hakeem credit.
- 9:14Speaker 3: He helped house Democrats pass legislation, extending Affordable Care Act
- 9:19Speaker 3: tax credits. And, you know, Democratic leadership has promised to
- 9:21Speaker 3: focus on lowering costs.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Those actions matter.
- 9:23Speaker 3: But I don't know if Hakeem and Chuck are built
- 9:26Speaker 3: for the next test.
- 9:27Speaker 1: The next test is what happens tomorrow.
- 9:29Speaker 3: When the legislation becomes more ambitious, when your powerful donors object. OK,
- 9:34Speaker 3: when corporate lobbyists start calling and when you know you've
- 9:38Speaker 3: got to make difficult decisions about American foreign policy, especially Israel. OK,
- 9:44Speaker 3: that's when the American people get to see what leadership is.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Really stands for because winning elections is one responsibility. Governing
- 9:51Speaker 3: in the public interest is another. Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck
- 9:54Speaker 3: Schumer should have to demonstrate that their commitment to working
- 9:57Speaker 3: Americans is stronger than their commitment. So far, establishment self-preservation
- 9:51Speaker 3: is winning, but the standard.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Should be preserving political relationships. It should not be preserving
- 10:12Speaker 3: political relationships and financial support.
- 10:14Speaker 1: Okay?
- 10:15Speaker 3: And whether Chuck or Hakeem meets that standard is a question.
- 10:18Speaker 3: Their colleagues and the American people deserve to debate. I
- 10:22Speaker 3: personally say they don't. And I've been saying this for
- 10:25Speaker 3: over a year.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Okay?
- 10:27Speaker 3: The point of winning political power isn't simply to keep it.
- 10:30Speaker 3: The point is to use it to make people's lives better.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Let me say this real clear. OK, so you can
- 10:36Speaker 3: have it and listen to it on repeat. Hakeem, Chuck,
- 10:41Speaker 3: the real test of leadership isn't how much money you
- 10:43Speaker 3: can raise or how many elections you can win. It's
- 10:46Speaker 3: what you're willing to do when the interests of the
- 10:48Speaker 3: American people conflict with the interests of the people financing
- 10:52Speaker 3: your political career. Are you willing to challenge corporate America
- 10:55Speaker 3: on wages? Are you willing to challenge, you know, the
- 10:58Speaker 3: health care system, you know? Are you willing to challenge
- 11:02Speaker 3: corporate America on housing and taxes? Are you willing to
- 11:04Speaker 3: challenge Israel's government when its actions conflict with American interests
- 11:08Speaker 3: and human rights? Are you willing to hold Trump and
- 11:11Speaker 3: other powerful people accountable regardless of their political connections?
- 11:15Speaker 1: Because if your commitment.
- 11:16Speaker 3: To the American people only goes as far as your
- 11:19Speaker 3: donors will allow, then voters.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Have every right.
- 11:23Speaker 3: To be on your ask, and even ask you to
- 11:25Speaker 3: step down. Please let Remy Ma give Chuck Schumer and
- 11:28Speaker 3: Hakeem Jeffries the biggest hee-haw.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Hee-haw, hee-haw. You stupid motherfucker. You dumb. All right. Well,
- 11:35Speaker 1: thank you for that donkey today. I think that's a
- 11:37Speaker 1: fantastic way to end the week.
- 11:38Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Yeah. All right. Well, when we come back, Megan Good
- 11:43Speaker 1: will be joining us. Yes, she will. And we're going
- 11:45Speaker 1: to talk to her next. So don't go anywhere. It's
- 11:47Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
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