Latest / Becker’s Healthcare -- Pediatric Leadership Podcast / Nathaniel Beers, CEO of Blythedale Children’s Hospital
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- 0:02This is where health care leadership comes together.
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- 0:32Welcome to Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Chris Sosa,
- 0:35your host, and I'm thrilled to be joined
- 0:36today by doctor Nathaniel Beers. He's the CEO
- 0:39of Blytheale Children's Hospital in New York. Nathaniel,
- 0:42thank you for joining us today. My pleasure.
- 0:44Thanks for having me.
- 0:46Nathaniel, you just took over officially
- 0:49as CEO of Ideal Children's about four weeks
- 0:51ago.
- 0:52But for those in our audience who may
- 0:54not be too familiar with you and and
- 0:56your journey as a health care leader, can
- 0:58you please introduce yourself and tell us a
- 0:59little bit about your background?
- 1:01Sure. So by training, I'm a general and
- 1:04developmental behavioral pediatrician,
- 1:06and have been,
- 1:08providing pediatric care for close to thirty years
- 1:10now.
- 1:12And I have really focused my pediatric
- 1:15career
- 1:16on the interface between health and education services
- 1:19for kids with disabilities. And so unlike many
- 1:22pediatricians, I haven't had sort of a straight
- 1:25trajectory of, you know, just working in clinics.
- 1:28I actually,
- 1:30did my fellowship up at Boston Children's,
- 1:33in child advocacy after doing my residency at
- 1:36Children's National.
- 1:37When I came back to DC,
- 1:39I,
- 1:40was able to,
- 1:42join the faculty at Children's National,
- 1:45and I saw patients there for the last
- 1:47twenty four years.
- 1:49But I left Children's,
- 1:51from a work perspective,
- 1:53and,
- 1:54went and worked for the DC government for
- 1:56a number of years, including,
- 1:58as the Deputy Director for Policy and Programs
- 2:01for the Community Health Administration for the DC
- 2:03Department of Health.
- 2:05And then from there went on, to work
- 2:08for DC Public Schools,
- 2:10where I was hired to overhaul their early
- 2:12childhood
- 2:14evaluation process
- 2:15and think about how could we identify more
- 2:17kids,
- 2:18with special education needs since we were under
- 2:21identifying children.
- 2:23And then was promoted to be the head
- 2:25of special education for DC public schools and
- 2:27ran special education for DC public schools, helped
- 2:29DC get out of three class action lawsuits,
- 2:33and then,
- 2:34decided it was time to go back to
- 2:36healthcare.
- 2:37And so I,
- 2:38took another year being the chief operating officer
- 2:40at DC public schools,
- 2:42which is again, another strange twist,
- 2:45where I learned about construction and all kinds
- 2:47of things that help me now in this
- 2:49type of job, to be more informed in
- 2:51the conversations.
- 2:53And then went back to healthcare and worked
- 2:55for the,
- 2:56health services,
- 2:58or HSC
- 2:59health care system,
- 3:01which is, again, similar to Blythe Dale in
- 3:04that it's focused on kids with disabilities in
- 3:06DC.
- 3:07And in 2019,
- 3:08HSC health care system and Children's National merged.
- 3:12And so I was back in the Children's
- 3:13National family where I spent the last,
- 3:16six years,
- 3:17serving,
- 3:18as the executive vice president of community and
- 3:20population health,
- 3:22and working together with the team there prior
- 3:24to joining the team here at Blythedale.
- 3:27As I said, it's anything but a straight
- 3:28line that got you from Very circuitous.
- 3:31Over the last thirty years or so.
- 3:34What led you to Blythe Dale in particular?
- 3:37Yeah. I mean, I think the unique thing
- 3:39about Blythe Delta is the only,
- 3:41children's hospital in the country and probably in
- 3:43the world where, there is also a co
- 3:46located special education school district,
- 3:48on the same campus. And so for my
- 3:50interest in working with kids with disabilities
- 3:53and kids who've been discharged from the, you
- 3:55know, neonatal or pediatric intensive care units,
- 3:59and being able to partner together with the
- 4:01school system,
- 4:02to think about how are we supporting kids
- 4:04when they go home,
- 4:06is really a unique opportunity that doesn't exist
- 4:09anywhere else in the world. And so, I
- 4:11really couldn't pass up the opportunity to think
- 4:13about this as an opportunity. I'm thrilled that
- 4:15I'm here to lead the team.
- 4:17They are glad you mentioned
- 4:19what makes Blaiddell unique.
- 4:21I'm curious what else excites you about taking
- 4:24over this job.
- 4:26Yeah. I mean, I think it is again
- 4:28a a really unique opportunity in health care
- 4:30right now. That is a hospital that,
- 4:33is,
- 4:35doing well financially,
- 4:37and is really positioned to think about how
- 4:40can it be,
- 4:41at the forefront of the field. And so
- 4:44because of, where it is financially, we're able
- 4:47to think about what is,
- 4:49where's the innovation to happen?
- 4:52How do we make sure that we can
- 4:53impact the lives of more patients and families?
- 4:57And think about what the future of health
- 4:58care is gonna look like and how can
- 5:00we be prepared,
- 5:01to be a leader in that space.
- 5:04Gotcha. Well, that dovetails nicely into my next
- 5:06question, which simply is,
- 5:08what do you consider Blythe Dale Children's best
- 5:10strengths, and how can it best go about
- 5:12using them? Yeah. I mean, like many children's
- 5:15hospitals, I will say its people are its
- 5:17best strength. Right? We have lucky to have
- 5:20an, a workforce that is
- 5:22truly committed to the mission that we have
- 5:24around serving,
- 5:26patients and families of children with medical complexity.
- 5:29And so, that passion that people bring to
- 5:32work every day
- 5:33makes it a lot easier,
- 5:35to do the work, and, and to work
- 5:38together.
- 5:39In addition,
- 5:40Blytheville has been fortunate to have been led
- 5:43by a leader, for the last twenty six
- 5:45years who really was an incredible advocate for
- 5:47children,
- 5:48and an incredible advocate for those children who
- 5:50had medical complexity. And so he's been able
- 5:53to pass a local legislation to make sure
- 5:56that children with disabilities are being better supported
- 5:58and that there's appropriate,
- 6:01financial resourcing for the services that they need.
- 6:04But also,
- 6:05has led a team that is, really leaders,
- 6:09in the space of making sure
- 6:12that we are sort of stepping forward,
- 6:14and not just continuing to do things the
- 6:17same way we've done them for the last
- 6:18twenty years. And so the culture of innovation,
- 6:21the culture of a willingness to embrace change,
- 6:24all of those,
- 6:25I'm stepping into,
- 6:27as opposed to having to build those pieces
- 6:29out, so that the organization can can be
- 6:32ready for the changes that are gonna come
- 6:33to all health care organizations, particularly with legislative
- 6:36and Medicaid changes that are coming, in the
- 6:39coming years.
- 6:40Nathaniel, to say that there's
- 6:44a plethora of changes coming would
- 6:48be maybe the biggest understatement ever. So without
- 6:51no need to
- 6:53elaborate on
- 6:54the avalanche or changes. I mean, I think
- 6:56it they're they're fairly well documented in the
- 6:58health care community.
- 6:59But I am curious,
- 7:01given that change and the innovation and the
- 7:04mindset that you mentioned that Blytheville has,
- 7:07what exactly do you think you and your
- 7:08team will be focused on over the next
- 7:10eighteen months, two years, whatever timeline you think,
- 7:13best fits from for for you at this
- 7:15moment?
- 7:16Yeah. I mean, I think, again, like many
- 7:19children's hospitals, but even
- 7:21even more so here, right,
- 7:23about eighty percent of our patients are Medicaid
- 7:25patients because of the long term care needs
- 7:27that they have. Right? So even families who
- 7:29may not qualify on their own income are
- 7:32patients qualified just given the long length of
- 7:34stays that they have and incredible medical expenses
- 7:36that they have.
- 7:38So we are highly dependent on medical, on
- 7:40Medicaid as an adequate payer. And so, certainly,
- 7:44as we think about sort of our payer
- 7:45mix and thinking about those components, continuing to
- 7:49make sure that we are
- 7:50partnering with our state and local,
- 7:54legislators
- 7:54and making sure that we're thinking about how
- 7:57we are
- 7:58navigating the changes of Medicaid is going to
- 8:00be a big piece of this.
- 8:02But I also think that it is an
- 8:04opportunity for us to make sure that we're
- 8:05thinking about where is healthcare going as well.
- 8:08Right? And as we think about pediatric healthcare,
- 8:10we've seen a lot of progress in the
- 8:12adult healthcare market around micro hospitals
- 8:15or hospital at home programs,
- 8:17about making sure that people can be in
- 8:19the community they're in and thinking about those
- 8:21components,
- 8:23about how we improve the quality of life
- 8:25of patients
- 8:26as they're navigating through the systems.
- 8:28I think we have an opportunity here at
- 8:31Blythedale that we have an incredible knowledge base
- 8:33about how to take care of kids and
- 8:35make sure they can go home. Over eighty
- 8:36five percent of our kids actually go home,
- 8:39not to another facility. And so, for those
- 8:42kids with medical complexity, that's not always the
- 8:44case. And so how do we take that
- 8:47knowledge and think about where we fit into
- 8:50a care that's being provided at home, in
- 8:52the community? How do we think about, the
- 8:54possibility of smaller satellite spaces?
- 8:57All of those pieces are things that over
- 8:59the next five to ten years, we can
- 9:01expect to start to happen more regularly in
- 9:03pediatrics
- 9:04as we get there.
- 9:05And then the last piece is really about
- 9:07being a good partner for our referring providers.
- 9:09Right? So our referring hospitals
- 9:12are gonna get a ton more pressure
- 9:14to make sure that they're discharging kids sooner.
- 9:17And to be able to safely do that,
- 9:18they have to have an organization like ours
- 9:21that can take kids who are getting discharged
- 9:23from the neonatal or pediatric intensive care units
- 9:25and are ready to be supported
- 9:27in a lower level of acuity, but are
- 9:30not ready to go home. And so all
- 9:32of those are pieces that we will have
- 9:34to think about. How do we raise the
- 9:36bar on what we can take and how
- 9:38we can be a good partner in that
- 9:39space? And how do we also think about
- 9:41how we're building those supports in the community
- 9:43so the patients can continue to go home
- 9:45safely.
- 9:47Got it. I mean, those are all worthwhile
- 9:48goals, and they're gonna take a lot more
- 9:50than just eighteen months. I'm sure.
- 9:53But, you know, that that's you work out
- 9:55a little bit at a time, of course.
- 9:57Lastly, Nathaniel, I my question is,
- 10:00what aspect of children's health care deserves a
- 10:03sprite a brighter spotlight in your mind?
- 10:06Yeah. I mean, I think that it is
- 10:08the care that we provide at Blytheville and
- 10:10other hospitals like ours around the country. Right?
- 10:12They are the piece that people forget about
- 10:15as a really critical linchpin,
- 10:17to the success for kids with medical complexity.
- 10:20Right? The reality is if you're a patient
- 10:22who spends,
- 10:23you know, three months in the neonatal intensive
- 10:26care unit and is going home with, you
- 10:29know, tubing and alarms and maybe a gastrointestinal
- 10:32tube and maybe a tracheostomy
- 10:33and maybe other equipment needs,
- 10:35going straight from the neonatal intensive care unit
- 10:38to home sets you up for failure. And
- 10:41really it is about sort of making sure
- 10:42that we can continue to stabilize kids,
- 10:45think about how they can be ready to
- 10:47go home,
- 10:48how patients and families can have the time
- 10:51to learn what they need to learn to
- 10:53be able to safely monitor their children at
- 10:55home.
- 10:55Our home healthcare system in The United States
- 10:58is so broken,
- 11:00and has so many gaps in services
- 11:02that for many families who are going home
- 11:04with a child, they can experience around 25%
- 11:07of the,
- 11:08prescribed
- 11:09home care hours is being uncovered.
- 11:12And so that means someone in that household
- 11:14has to be ready to care for that
- 11:16child if there's not a nurse coming into
- 11:18that space. And so our job is to
- 11:20really prepare the family for all of those
- 11:23realities
- 11:24and make sure that they can be ready
- 11:25to go home, and that that child can
- 11:28experience life. And so,
- 11:31in a way that like allows them to
- 11:33really be a child,
- 11:34and so the family to sort of embrace
- 11:36them in that space.
- 11:38And everyone knows where to go to the
- 11:39emergency room, where to go if you need
- 11:42sort of that high, you know, intense,
- 11:44you know, cancer treatment or surgery, you know,
- 11:47you're going to, you know, the big children's
- 11:50hospitals around the country.
- 11:52But the hospitals like Blytheville Children's are really
- 11:54about making sure you can go home afterwards.
- 11:57And so need to be part of how
- 11:59people are thinking about how they think about
- 12:01their care.
- 12:03Daniel, thank you so much for sharing your
- 12:05time, your insights, everything that's going on at
- 12:07Lydaysdale. We love to hear it, and we
- 12:09can't wait to share it with our audience.
- 12:10And we I hope our paths cross sooner
- 12:12rather than later. Me too. Thanks for having
- 12:14me.