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Speaker 1: In the morning. You I'm talking right, and you're about
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Speaker 1: to experience a morning showing like any of you. Bast
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Speaker 1: club what you guys are doing right now. It's the
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Speaker 1: hub culture. Breakfast club is my morning sick. I need
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Speaker 1: it and I love it. Something. I feel like you're
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Speaker 1: really not popping until you do the breakfast Club. I've
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Speaker 1: been waiting come to y'all show man. I know you
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Speaker 1: gotta be a big time celebrity to be up and
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Speaker 1: here you gotta be. You gotta be a big time
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Speaker 1: j Ali and Charlotmagne the guy the breakfast club. Bitch,
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Speaker 1: this is your time to get it off your chest.
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Speaker 1: Whether you're manaking from you on the breakfast Club. You
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Speaker 1: got something on your mind? Hello? Whose this? Yeah, Josh, Josh,
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Speaker 1: get it off your chest first. Always want to say, man,
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Speaker 1: I listen you guys every day. I love you guys.
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Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. Thank you. Man U is Charletmagne
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Speaker 1: in today, Yes, I am, sir. That's amazing. Y'all got
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Speaker 1: to ask him on in the day you kill me
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Speaker 1: when out went out. I listen to you guys and
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Speaker 1: don't here that yo yo yo yo yo. At the beginning,
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Speaker 1: all right, well, this is for you man, for Charletts, Maine.
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Speaker 1: You know, I understand that a couple of days ago
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Speaker 1: you said that you wanted your daughter to bring home
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Speaker 1: the same race that that you guys are, which is black.
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Speaker 1: I understand that completely. But seven out of ten domestic
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Speaker 1: violences that are reported on a female are from a
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Speaker 1: black guy. How would you feel if you kept putting
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Speaker 1: it on your daughter about dating the black guy, but
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Speaker 1: then she was getting beat up all the time. First
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Speaker 1: of all, I don't even know if the statistic is
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Speaker 1: really and it's coming and it's coming from a white man. Sorry,
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Speaker 1: used to believe it. It's real, It's real. Google it.
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Speaker 1: You sound like the Jeeves. Yeah, I mean that's that's
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Speaker 1: like saying, you know a majority of black people in
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Speaker 1: America have probably been killed by white people historically, whether
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Speaker 1: we go from slavery to Jim Crow, segregation to now. So,
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Speaker 1: so I should never let my daughter day the white man.
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Speaker 1: The white man has historically been behind every mass carnage
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Speaker 1: and murder in America. So I should never let her
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Speaker 1: my daughter day to white man just saying she dates
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Speaker 1: of Jacob or Stephen Man, she might be more comfortable.
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Speaker 1: You never know, man, get off my phone. He got
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Speaker 1: that devil. I don't know where he got that statistics. Ki, okay,
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Speaker 1: get it off your chests. I didn't call him that either.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I said before I called him, before
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Speaker 1: you called crack ass cracker. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I took a deep breath. We got you. You know
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Speaker 1: before I say, did you think to whoever he is, hello,
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Speaker 1: who's this ing it? That was that Brandon? Get it
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Speaker 1: off your chests? All right? So I've got two things, well,
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Speaker 1: mainly for Charlotte Magagne, but all um telling me, I
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Speaker 1: know you're talking about how are your munch caller or
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Speaker 1: South Carolina and all that? Yes, sir um, So are
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Speaker 1: you implemented any like mental programs for like the young
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Speaker 1: kids so they don't do any of these crazy things?
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Speaker 1: Because if people are interested in union into the dustry
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Speaker 1: like TV, film, radio, because anything that you're introducing to
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Speaker 1: those kids down downs off where you're from and say hey,
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Speaker 1: you can do this instead of bt to me crazy
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Speaker 1: or keep keep up the street. Yeah, you know, I've
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Speaker 1: been doing that for a while because I got a
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Speaker 1: nonprofit called Third Eye Awareness, and like one of the
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Speaker 1: first initiatives we did years years years ago was called
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Speaker 1: the No Matrix movement, and it was the show kids
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Speaker 1: that there was other career options other than wrapping apple.
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Speaker 1: But we do a mentorship program every year that my
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Speaker 1: cousin and Kenta does, and you know, basically we just
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Speaker 1: show guys other career options. And I know that always
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Speaker 1: sounds like hypocritical coming from me because I'm in the
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Speaker 1: entertainment business. But I mean I know a lot of
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Speaker 1: doctors and lawyers and engineers and architects and politicians and
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Speaker 1: tech guys cold creators. And I'm not always talking about
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Speaker 1: like on air or suff like may behind the seming
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Speaker 1: stuff like sound more camera anytime, some stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I always encourage kids to do that before
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Speaker 1: they get into the before they become on air personalities.
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Speaker 1: Like I think that, you know, the pro the program
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Speaker 1: inside of things in radio is lacking, Like you know,
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Speaker 1: we need those next program directors and music directors. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: By because I'm gonna say right now, I'm like one
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Speaker 1: of those two black dudes on set, like I'm working
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Speaker 1: for T show right now in California and camera cruit
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Speaker 1: camera people stay getting work all the time, all the time.
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Speaker 1: One more thing, U ye, I have one thing to you. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you had Melvin call in and he's saying that all
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Speaker 1: the things about him calling a girl and get upset
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Speaker 1: with her about the conversation that he would have not
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Speaker 1: getting with her. Correct And you're promoting men doing better
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Speaker 1: and talking to me a woman better and doing all
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Speaker 1: these things to better men, right, So why would you
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Speaker 1: giving it's a little hypocritical to say that to men
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Speaker 1: and then tell a loot of women or condone women
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Speaker 1: not being up in an honest with men saying okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm not interested, instead of ignoring them and doing things
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Speaker 1: like that. Yes there are men who are crazy. Yes
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Speaker 1: there are men who are doing these wild things. Once
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Speaker 1: for not doing that. Listen, if a woman is not responding,
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Speaker 1: If a woman is not responding to you, my whole point,
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Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be mutually. I mean, it
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Speaker 1: could be two different things. But if a woman's not
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Speaker 1: responding you, that doesn't give you the right to be
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Speaker 1: nasty and root to her. That's all I'm saying. I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying. I'm not saying to be nasty at all.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying the ones who are front, honest and saying
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Speaker 1: the things that they need to say that are correct
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Speaker 1: for two women like no that at one at the
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Speaker 1: beginning at least, is it a little hypocritical to say, okay,
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Speaker 1: it's okay for her to ignore him. I didn't say
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Speaker 1: it's okay, but it is okay for her to ignore
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Speaker 1: him if she's not interested. She doesn't owe him anything.
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Speaker 1: She doesn't even know him. I know she doesn't owe
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Speaker 1: him anything. She wasn't she wasn't nasty, she wasn't rude
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Speaker 1: to him, she didn't lie to him about anything. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: you just have to take the hint. If someone doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to talk to you and doesn't have to want
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Speaker 1: to respond to you, they did not obligated to worry you,
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Speaker 1: got it? So that's all like, listen, take the clue.
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Speaker 1: I'm not interested. I just didn't respond. You know it
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Speaker 1: didn't work out. Get it off your chest eight hundred
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Speaker 1: five A five one oh five one. If you need
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Speaker 1: to vent, you can hit this up right now. Keep
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Speaker 1: a lock this to breakfast club for the morning. The
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Speaker 1: breakfast club. This is your time to get it off
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Speaker 1: your chest. Whether you're man, flash from you on the
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Speaker 1: breakfast club. But you got something on your mom let
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Speaker 1: wilburt Hey Wilbur get it off your chests, Wilbur, Hey
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Speaker 1: yourmb your bet you guys, what would you do? Call
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Speaker 1: full and before? Oh yes, if you don't remember, If
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Speaker 1: you don't remember, who Andy is? Andy is the guy
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Speaker 1: that was willing to give palatio to get the water
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Speaker 1: into the firefest. Name is Andy King? Andy King, Andy
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Speaker 1: the b J ching. I was thinking about this real
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Speaker 1: horror many. It got to be hard for you to
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Speaker 1: think about doing it. I'm about to suck for Travis
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Speaker 1: Scott singing live again. Love My Man is a super
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Speaker 1: whack all on way. So you would you would give
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Speaker 1: another man filacio for Travis Scott not to sing live
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Speaker 1: ever again? Hell? Yeah, bro, man yo live b yeah.
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Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say you suck all the
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Speaker 1: time on the regular. You don't you know if that's
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Speaker 1: your if that's your excuse for wanting to suck, bro,
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Speaker 1: I think that you suck more than you letting know
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Speaker 1: you like it? We love it, bro, enjoy Andre. I
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Speaker 1: don't think that's a good time to say. If you
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Speaker 1: like it, I love it, okay? Andre? Was something? Man?
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Speaker 1: What's up? Every year? You know what's going on? You
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Speaker 1: know you know it's good? Huh? From Atlanta. When you
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Speaker 1: say when people say you know what's going on on?
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Speaker 1: You from Atlanta? I just assume you gay, Nah, don't
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Speaker 1: do that. Don't you know what's going on? It's Atlanta?
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Speaker 1: What you want to say? No, not like that world
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Speaker 1: was going on like that. Let you know what's you
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Speaker 1: know about eighteen? You know about to start about to
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Speaker 1: uply the cops today, Georgia State today and hey, what's up?
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Speaker 1: What's you're doing? Good? I like your whole I'm all
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Speaker 1: like you. That's you. I what's me all? That's what's
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Speaker 1: the games? The gate? All right? But you got you
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Speaker 1: have a great day. Okay. It was a pleasure talking
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Speaker 1: to you this morning. It was a pleasure talking to
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Speaker 1: you to have a good morning, says Chris Day. What's up? God?
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Speaker 1: Damn man? What God got to do with this? Let's y'all.
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Speaker 1: Do not know how much I am at this belief?
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Speaker 1: Like I try to call you mother so much, Christie.
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Speaker 1: You can't. You can't keep our cursing on more. That's
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Speaker 1: what we don't pick up for you. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: My daddy was a sailor, all right, Christy, Well yeah,
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Speaker 1: let it let it out. Well, um, I'm an artist
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Speaker 1: from day and all hum I go buy Christie. I'm
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Speaker 1: a lusci and all I wanted was just, you know,
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Speaker 1: an opinion. I want an opinion from God damage, I'm sorry,
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I want a pinion from Charlotte Magne and
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Speaker 1: I want to pain from DJ mmy. I want to
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Speaker 1: try to check my music out. Give me out the
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Speaker 1: basement downcloud wrapper category out right now, then ahead, I'm
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Speaker 1: glad I don't have to give an opinion. I'll ha
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Speaker 1: edrela gir, I love you too, girl, gok ahead, rap
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Speaker 1: rap right now. Okay, but my music is a little verder.
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Speaker 1: You go God, We'll believe you. We'll bleep you out
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Speaker 1: the curses gave okay. Um, if you look at my purse,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna think that I purch my Zone sixes, pull
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Speaker 1: up on the urt shit, the licking, we swerve, No,
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Speaker 1: we get to them. They're just the first to go
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Speaker 1: get it. How I do is work. I don't put
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Speaker 1: no man before the business. I'm getting married to get Richard.
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Speaker 1: I've been leaving the more talk getting Richard. I'm just
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Speaker 1: trying to turn my next to December. I'm just trying
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Speaker 1: to get prepare for the women to pull for me.
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Speaker 1: Didn't get pup to you. We can't eat no more
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Speaker 1: tudience for then, we can't rad no more grad persons.
8:57
Speaker 1: I grabbed out my b and told them, let's get
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Speaker 1: it a lot of real names, handy, leave it to
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Speaker 1: me to put off my city. Okay, now I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be honest. You sign all right. I mean, you don't
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Speaker 1: sound like nothing I've never heard before, though, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying with that right there, maybe you want
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Speaker 1: to check out a song or two just to see
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about. I gotta hear you on the beat. Now,
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Speaker 1: that wasn't bad watch so I'm see. Look, I'm nervous
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Speaker 1: and see I'm so scared that Charlot Ma ain't gonna
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Speaker 1: say something mean to me. You got my voice shak,
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Speaker 1: You got my nerves up, you know, because I was
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Speaker 1: all I practiced this in my head. I didn't plan
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Speaker 1: on getting through. Well that's good. That's that's how I
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Speaker 1: want people to be in there around me, to be
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Speaker 1: honest with you. And secondly, secondly, I'm gonna checkut. Im
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Speaker 1: gonna check it out. I'm gona check what you you
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Speaker 1: gotta SoundCloud down cloud is Christie. I'm gonna Gucci. H R,
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Speaker 1: I S S Y y A MG were boycotting Gucci?
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Speaker 1: You stupid tag us right test tag us on social media. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I will thank y'all. Look all right, Christie, I'm gonna Gucci.
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Speaker 1: All right, So I'm gonna Guci the same as regular Gucci.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Get it off your chest, keep it locked.
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Speaker 1: This to Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy we
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Claude. You got a special guests in
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Speaker 1: the building. Yes, it's good to be back. Good to
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Speaker 1: be back, come back. You're probably super high off life
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Speaker 1: right now. I after watching d have that marvelous come back. Oh,
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Speaker 1: it's a good one. It's a good one. I like
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Speaker 1: seeing other teams cry. It's pretty funny. Let's talk about
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Speaker 1: the business. Yes, and I see all y'all businesses all
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Speaker 1: the time. I know about you on real estate. I
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Speaker 1: know about you and your juice bars. I see what
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Speaker 1: you do. Obviously we share somebody together and Karen Kenny.
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Speaker 1: So I mean it's really about how you evolve your
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Speaker 1: own business. And now I think it's actually somewhat culturally
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Speaker 1: relevant to beat business savvy, where that hasn't always been
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Speaker 1: the case. Man, That's not always been the case. We've
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Speaker 1: been so busy being consumers for so long that was
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Speaker 1: just all this emphasis on ownership and entrepreneurship. I'll tell you, man,
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Speaker 1: when I first came out of college, I got a
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Speaker 1: chance to start reading a book that really changed my life.
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Speaker 1: It was called Power Noomics by Claude Anderson. Right, none
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Speaker 1: of you guys have heard about it, and uh, it's
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Speaker 1: so incredible where it talks about, Hey, you know, right
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Speaker 1: after Jim Crow, when everybody felt like they were doing
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Speaker 1: African Americans such a service by desegregating socially, but that
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Speaker 1: was just one of the symptoms. That wasn't the cause
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Speaker 1: of the issue, right, and how it should have been
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Speaker 1: about the redistribution of wealth and power because the reality
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Speaker 1: is that that was always maintained by Caucasian people for
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Speaker 1: a very long time. So it's not until right now
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Speaker 1: that we have certain African Americans that are in that
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Speaker 1: rarefied air. And there's so many times where, you know,
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Speaker 1: for me going to a school like Duke and play
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Speaker 1: in this game, I'm the only black person early minority
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Speaker 1: in the room, in the room, and I have to
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Speaker 1: be comfortable in my own skin. But then when I
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Speaker 1: go back to my home, I was being called an
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Speaker 1: uncle Tom or sellout because I was trying to play
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Speaker 1: in that world and trying to establish myself business wise.
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Speaker 1: And now I think it's cool to be smart. It's
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Speaker 1: cool to be savvy. It's cool to understand how your
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Speaker 1: business works in and out, and it's cool to not
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Speaker 1: let people be culture vultures and extract from our culture.
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Speaker 1: And it is important when we become successful that we
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Speaker 1: do things in the areas where we're from to help
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Speaker 1: build up those areas. Also, like to own businesses instead
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Speaker 1: of letting other people come in and own those businesses.
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Speaker 1: And watching what Katie and rich Climate have done is
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Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty special because you know, they've made so
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Speaker 1: many investments. They invested in Postmates, which obviously just raised
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Speaker 1: another one hundred and fifty million and got you know,
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Speaker 1: evaluated over a couple of billion dollars at the same time, Like,
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Speaker 1: this is not a show where we're trying to sit
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Speaker 1: here and pound in our chests and tell you all
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Speaker 1: the different strategies you need to you know, insert into
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Speaker 1: your business, Like this is a show where we're all
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Speaker 1: learning together. Right, So Katie's in the room listening to
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Speaker 1: a Steve Bomber like how many times do you get
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Speaker 1: a chance to And it's about access too, though, Maine. Right,
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Speaker 1: we listened to a story from Steve Bomber. We're like, well,
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Speaker 1: how'd you get started? He's like, well, I just happened
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Speaker 1: to be next to Bill Gates at the right time.
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Speaker 1: What like. So so now you're telling me, granted, you
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Speaker 1: have to have a certain intellect to continue to you know,
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Speaker 1: leverage your brand and build it, but it's about accessing.
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Speaker 1: It's about being around the right kind of people. You
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Speaker 1: could have the Hamburger stand. We saw Bill Gates. I mean,
12:48
Speaker 1: but look, I mean that whole conversation with Steve just
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Speaker 1: turned into him owning the Clippers and how they're moving
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Speaker 1: to Englewood and how they're going into tax abatements and
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Speaker 1: how they're building out retail around it. You're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: this is like you're looking at this is a multi
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Speaker 1: billion dollar business and how many minorities do we have
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Speaker 1: as far as team ownerships. Even from a woman's perspective,
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Speaker 1: like Clara Sai, who is a minority owner of the
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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, like is out here putting in work and
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Speaker 1: she's from China, and what she's doing with Justice reform,
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Speaker 1: what they're doing with the nets, what they did with
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Speaker 1: the liberty and buying the liberty. I mean, we need
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Speaker 1: to talk about more of that so that becomes the
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Speaker 1: norm and we hear other young people of minority or
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Speaker 1: different ethnic backgrounds and understand that they can achieve that
13:26
Speaker 1: same thing. That's that's the truth that you know. The
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Speaker 1: one problem that we always have is we always feel like,
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Speaker 1: well we give excuses too much. Oh, I don't have
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Speaker 1: any money, I can't start. Oh well they got this,
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Speaker 1: or I couldn't do that. And that's my problem with
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Speaker 1: our people sometimes is sometimes we don't want to put
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Speaker 1: into work. We sabotage ourselves exactly, well, I can't do this,
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Speaker 1: I don't have the resources. Like my thing is, it's
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Speaker 1: almost like my accident. I used to say why all
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Speaker 1: the time, and it's became why not me, Like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I can do it. I mean Robert Johnson started BAT
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Speaker 1: with a fifteen thousand dollars loan, Like you can go
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Speaker 1: to friends and scrape up money if you have the
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Speaker 1: right kind of strategy in place, and you surround it
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Speaker 1: with the right people. But it's also about allowing our
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Speaker 1: young people to have access to the right people. So
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Speaker 1: you know, and I look, I'll own it. I think
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Speaker 1: sometimes when you try to climb the ladder, you're so
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Speaker 1: busy climbing, you're so busy trying to achieve that you
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Speaker 1: forget to pass it forward. And now I think, watching
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Speaker 1: what Lebron's doing, watching what Kad is doing, it's about like, hey,
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Speaker 1: let's rise up together, like let's share, listen, let's help
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Speaker 1: other people. All right, we are more with Jay Williams
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Speaker 1: when we come back, so don't move. It's the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy
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Speaker 1: and Jeluyee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 1: We have Jay Williams from ESPN in the building. Now.
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Speaker 1: The first episodes, you guys are talking about sneakers and
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Speaker 1: the whole sneaker culture, which was an interesting conversation because
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Speaker 1: you think about, of course, nowadays with players, it's not
14:49
Speaker 1: just how great you are on the court. It's also
14:52
Speaker 1: more of a lifestyle thing too. It is and also
14:55
Speaker 1: even understanding the sneaker business right, And I think it's
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Speaker 1: something that culturally we're into sneakers, Like, just take it
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Speaker 1: another level for all the kids out there understand, like, hey,
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Speaker 1: Footlocker just invested one hundred and fifty million dollars into Goat. Right.
15:07
Speaker 1: It's a secondary marketing tool for sneakers, secondary market for sneakers, right,
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Speaker 1: and it's close to a two billion dollar industry. So
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Speaker 1: if you have some pairs of dope kicks, like put
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Speaker 1: them on a stock X, put them on a goat, like,
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Speaker 1: sell them, you can make three multiple off what you
15:22
Speaker 1: pay for because people love the culture of sports. I mean, look,
15:25
Speaker 1: I found this out about ESPN a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: like seven years ago. We used to play heavy metal
15:31
Speaker 1: music going to break off NBA games. Right now we're
15:35
Speaker 1: playing hip hop going to breaks. Like hip hop has
15:37
Speaker 1: become like pop music to everybody. Right, So if you
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Speaker 1: have that culture, if you understand, you know the strength
15:43
Speaker 1: of it, take advantage of it, and just it comes
15:46
Speaker 1: with just doing research and doing your due diligence. How
15:48
Speaker 1: did you and Katie get a business relationship? I met
15:50
Speaker 1: Rich climbing man back in two thousand and one from
15:53
Speaker 1: a party I went to a scooter Bron. Literally we
15:55
Speaker 1: were just hanging out with method Man and next thing
15:57
Speaker 1: I know, I'm meeting Rich and we talk a little bit.
16:00
Speaker 1: And then Scott had connected us maybe about a year ago,
16:04
Speaker 1: and we just started talking about what we do in
16:06
Speaker 1: our lives and he was like, Hey, I got this
16:08
Speaker 1: idea that I want to do with KD. We want
16:10
Speaker 1: to find a way to create a platform where we
16:13
Speaker 1: could bring all of our friends, you know, bring you
16:15
Speaker 1: guys on board, talk about what you're doing and have
16:17
Speaker 1: conversations about how people got started. Like create a forum
16:20
Speaker 1: where people are talking about their struggles and how they
16:22
Speaker 1: start their business, you know, where they see future markets
16:24
Speaker 1: in their potential industries, and really just work together and
16:29
Speaker 1: collaborate and just create content. I mean, everybody is in
16:31
Speaker 1: this content while West space anyway, So we can be
16:35
Speaker 1: informative with the content that we create with people that
16:38
Speaker 1: are able to move the needle from a culture perspective
16:41
Speaker 1: that's still now. We see these guys like Lebron, we
16:43
Speaker 1: see k D. Are they anomalies? Are athletes really getting
16:46
Speaker 1: smarter when it comes to business? I think athletes are
16:48
Speaker 1: really getting smarter coming to business out So you've got
16:50
Speaker 1: those people that are in the rarefied air. But I mean,
16:53
Speaker 1: look at the TV right, steals that are happening right
16:55
Speaker 1: now with sports, it was a multi it was in
16:58
Speaker 1: the double digit billion dollars that you're getting these rights
17:02
Speaker 1: to sports. So you have athletes that are making more
17:04
Speaker 1: money than ever right now. You have guys that are
17:06
Speaker 1: marginal players, right, guys who are scoring eleven twelve points,
17:10
Speaker 1: who are signing four years, seventy five million dollars deals. Wow,
17:14
Speaker 1: and it really makes me want to come back for
17:15
Speaker 1: a ten daycome and it's just out there. So I
17:19
Speaker 1: think that the money is getting so high made that's
17:21
Speaker 1: getting to this point where it's like, all right, great,
17:23
Speaker 1: Like you just made seventy million dollars off of four years,
17:26
Speaker 1: you know after taxes, say that's thirty five million. How
17:29
Speaker 1: are you investing that money? What kind of things are
17:31
Speaker 1: you doing with that money so you can create that
17:33
Speaker 1: long sustained wealth that we all want, we all talk
17:37
Speaker 1: about doing. But then when you see our habits, our
17:39
Speaker 1: habits are conducive to doing that because we're spending money
17:43
Speaker 1: on frivolous stuff. But you know what I realized with
17:45
Speaker 1: a lot of players, and not just NBA, NFL, they
17:48
Speaker 1: honestly don't know, and a lot of times people around
17:51
Speaker 1: them just try to I wouldn't even say fake, they
17:54
Speaker 1: don't know either, but they just try to invest in
17:56
Speaker 1: things that they don't know, and you runs up the
17:58
Speaker 1: money all the time. And that's what we do. We're
18:00
Speaker 1: helping a lot of players that necessarily don't know what
18:03
Speaker 1: they're doing and helping them investing properties and investing things
18:06
Speaker 1: that they'll make money for a long time down the
18:08
Speaker 1: road because a lot of them just don't know. And
18:10
Speaker 1: let me tell you how this happens though, So I
18:12
Speaker 1: would see some of my other friends get drafted, and
18:14
Speaker 1: I will also know that there's such a business behind
18:17
Speaker 1: the business of what they get drafted. So the agents
18:19
Speaker 1: are paying money to different family members or you know,
18:23
Speaker 1: different accountants or social advisors, whatever it may be. Financial advisors,
18:27
Speaker 1: excuse me, are paying money and everybody's trying to get
18:29
Speaker 1: to the kids. So you know, as a kid, all
18:31
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now that you're about to make all
18:33
Speaker 1: this money and all these people come out of nowhere,
18:36
Speaker 1: you don't know who the hell a trust. So who
18:37
Speaker 1: do you trust? You trust some your family members. You're
18:39
Speaker 1: looking at your family members, no clue and by the way,
18:42
Speaker 1: their hands are in your pocket because if they bring
18:44
Speaker 1: you to the table for an agent or for a
18:46
Speaker 1: financial visor, they're getting a percentage of your deals. Right,
18:49
Speaker 1: So then I'm something you're you're making those kind of decisions.
18:51
Speaker 1: That's the foundation of how you're looking at your business. Like,
18:54
Speaker 1: we need people to start reaching out and be like,
18:56
Speaker 1: you know, it's not about I don't trust my family.
18:58
Speaker 1: You can still trust your family, but you don't know
19:00
Speaker 1: what you don't know with me. I got so many
19:02
Speaker 1: artists and athletes that call me all the time, especially
19:04
Speaker 1: about real estate, and they want to learn. And the
19:06
Speaker 1: first thing I always tell them, if you want to learn,
19:08
Speaker 1: I want you to come with me. And the reason
19:10
Speaker 1: I say that is because I want you to see
19:11
Speaker 1: it for yourself. A lot of people just invested, they
19:13
Speaker 1: don't know what they're invested, but a lot of people
19:15
Speaker 1: don't have that innatability to want to work. So my
19:19
Speaker 1: thing is, if that is the case for you, then
19:21
Speaker 1: be smart enough to carefully invest your time in the
19:24
Speaker 1: people that you think love to work too. Then the
19:27
Speaker 1: more you can asually say no too. You can't be
19:29
Speaker 1: afraid to fire people if somebody ain't care in their weight, like, Yo,
19:32
Speaker 1: I love you, but this is business. I gotta let
19:34
Speaker 1: you go. And I think the most important thing that
19:36
Speaker 1: everybody in this room is doing is dispensing the information
19:38
Speaker 1: because a lot of times we say that all people
19:40
Speaker 1: don't want to work, but they really just don't have
19:42
Speaker 1: an information. They don't even know why to work, you
19:44
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, like what you're doing with
19:45
Speaker 1: your show, and if you're doing real estate, we're giving
19:48
Speaker 1: them the information. And that's what it's about. Man, It's
19:51
Speaker 1: you know, this show for me is it's such a
19:53
Speaker 1: bigger thing. And when I go and when I talk
19:54
Speaker 1: to kids, and this is only from my personal experience,
19:57
Speaker 1: but you know, growing up and growing up a predominantly
20:00
Speaker 1: African American in Latin neighborhood and then going to school
20:02
Speaker 1: in a predominantly white school, Like every time I would
20:04
Speaker 1: go to school wearing my kicks or wearing my pants
20:06
Speaker 1: down a little bit, I got called being ghetto. I
20:08
Speaker 1: got called being black. And then when I went back
20:10
Speaker 1: home and I started talking about things that happened politically
20:13
Speaker 1: or things that I learned in chemistry class, I was
20:15
Speaker 1: called Uncle Tom. I was called being a sellout. So
20:17
Speaker 1: when I go on the streets, and I work with
20:19
Speaker 1: some of these kids like I want them to have
20:21
Speaker 1: informed conversations with me. I want this to be the
20:23
Speaker 1: new norm. I want you to be smart and not
20:26
Speaker 1: be called Uncle Tom or sellout. That's the only way
20:28
Speaker 1: that we're going to change it from a foundational perspective,
20:31
Speaker 1: so we can start being in that verified air and
20:33
Speaker 1: start having these conversations to start owning our own ship.
20:36
Speaker 1: We appreciate you for joining us, man, Man, it already
20:40
Speaker 1: came out. It came out Monday, the first two or
20:42
Speaker 1: behind the paywall for ESPN on ESPN Plus. Everything's going
20:45
Speaker 1: direct to consumer now anyway, So four ninety nine per month,
20:48
Speaker 1: which is great. And how many episodes are there? There
20:51
Speaker 1: are six episodes in total, but the first two came out.
20:54
Speaker 1: We did another one with Brian and Mad, which would
20:57
Speaker 1: be pretty cool out of air, you know, around when
20:59
Speaker 1: those two teams meet up. But I got to be
21:01
Speaker 1: a fascinating one to question. You talked about sneakers. What's
21:04
Speaker 1: the most you spent on the pat sneakers free ninety nine?
21:08
Speaker 1: He got on sneakers right now? No, No, I'm kidding
21:16
Speaker 1: and got me an that one three ninety nine, Man,
21:18
Speaker 1: I just I just barter deals. All right, Well it's
21:21
Speaker 1: Jay Williams. Respect, It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning.
21:24
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
21:28
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in
21:30
Speaker 1: the building, the cast of Black Ink Crew Chicago, Ryan
21:33
Speaker 1: Henry and Don Brumfield. What's going on? For the foremost, Don,
21:37
Speaker 1: congratulations to you for becoming a member of the Faithful
21:40
Speaker 1: Blackmail community. Ru faithful Blackmail community. There was a lot
21:45
Speaker 1: of time coming to put that whole jersey in the rafters?
21:48
Speaker 1: What made you want to evolve, sir? I mean, honestly, man,
21:51
Speaker 1: you are you start growing? Man, You just started realizing
21:54
Speaker 1: the headaches that you create for yourself, and then you
21:57
Speaker 1: start noticing that any of your people are like a
21:59
Speaker 1: zoodom from you. Man. Like honestly, early, like, I wasn't
22:02
Speaker 1: expecting every being on TV, you know, I want expecting
22:05
Speaker 1: to wake up and catch myself a little popular, you know,
22:07
Speaker 1: a little famous, you know what I mean? So honestly
22:10
Speaker 1: that there was a quick little transition, you know what
22:12
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I had to just learn I was kind
22:14
Speaker 1: of killing myself. I was draining myself and give myself
22:17
Speaker 1: some negative headaches. And when you look up, man, you
22:19
Speaker 1: got beautiful children and family. You just kind of realized, like,
22:22
Speaker 1: you know, you even draining them with you know, ignorant
22:24
Speaker 1: movements and you know, being young and silly. Man. So
22:27
Speaker 1: I love to see y'all walk through it too, like
22:29
Speaker 1: to work through everything, you know, because she did stay
22:33
Speaker 1: with you, and there were times you thought it wasn't
22:35
Speaker 1: gonna work out, and she thought it wasn't gonna work out.
22:37
Speaker 1: But it's nice when she stays in. She sees the
22:39
Speaker 1: work that you're putting in. Like, y'all, you didn't even
22:41
Speaker 1: go to Vegas, And I think part of that was,
22:43
Speaker 1: of course you had family obligations your son's birthday, but
22:46
Speaker 1: the other part of it was you don't even want
22:48
Speaker 1: to put yourself in a situation in the shoes, especially
22:51
Speaker 1: with these cameras. It's like, no, no, no, that was
22:56
Speaker 1: he was wild. It was wild. I was like, no,
22:59
Speaker 1: I'm good on that though, and just honestly for me, honestly,
23:02
Speaker 1: ever since a little snapchat situation, I've been chilling though.
23:04
Speaker 1: Since that stuff happened, it's been over a year. Okay, see,
23:07
Speaker 1: I've been I've been faithful for two years and four months.
23:10
Speaker 1: I cut off all my side chicks two years four
23:12
Speaker 1: months ago, and your life really does get better. And
23:15
Speaker 1: what you said is real, Like you don't want to
23:17
Speaker 1: ruin your family, man, Like I saw my father rome
23:20
Speaker 1: my family because of infidelity. So I didn't want to
23:22
Speaker 1: do that to my family. You know. Well, Ryan single,
23:24
Speaker 1: so he's out. He still Ryan? Oh, man, I ain't single.
23:29
Speaker 1: About the choice I got it, don't now. I was
23:34
Speaker 1: trying to get married to it. I had to take
23:36
Speaker 1: my brother in Valentine's dinner, the last one. I don't
23:41
Speaker 1: gonna think about the lonely man. You don't think you
23:44
Speaker 1: could possibly work that out? I don't know. Probably I'm
23:48
Speaker 1: not against it. You know, I ain't dating, like I said,
23:50
Speaker 1: I ain't holing, you know. So I was on the
23:52
Speaker 1: path to get married. I just had some you know,
23:55
Speaker 1: bumps in the road in my relationship. So what happened?
23:58
Speaker 1: You know, you know how it is, and y'all just
24:00
Speaker 1: certain stuffy'all just can't forgive um. So so you did
24:03
Speaker 1: some dirt and she can't get over it. Yeah, you
24:06
Speaker 1: know what it was. It was. It's like with the
24:07
Speaker 1: level of being on television like when the woman is
24:10
Speaker 1: it is embarrassed more, you know. I mean I put
24:12
Speaker 1: in a position to be more embarrassed than average person,
24:16
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm naturally embarrassed. Yeah,
24:18
Speaker 1: I didn't even I an't need this girl. It's just that,
24:20
Speaker 1: you know, for it to be, like I say, when
24:21
Speaker 1: you allow for somebody else to be on the level
24:24
Speaker 1: of your woman, that means in the level of respect,
24:27
Speaker 1: then that's worse than anything else that you could do.
24:29
Speaker 1: You know, say, I've prided myself on never letting no
24:32
Speaker 1: other chick ever come to the level of that. In
24:34
Speaker 1: the end, like I say on TV, jump out the
24:37
Speaker 1: boat and to sell the story on your ass, you know.
24:39
Speaker 1: So it's like that level of embarrassment is just he
24:42
Speaker 1: is kind of un forgive. You got everybody, and she
24:44
Speaker 1: got everybody. Never mentioned the room ball alert. You know,
24:48
Speaker 1: don't stop saying I'm surprised y'all ain't step in and
24:51
Speaker 1: say something to Van because on this season did he
24:55
Speaker 1: So just because I know, shopman, you might not one
24:57
Speaker 1: hundred percent know what happened, but Van and has an
25:01
Speaker 1: apprentice that he ended up cheating on his girlfriend with
25:04
Speaker 1: his long term girlfriend, and I'm feeling like y'all went
25:07
Speaker 1: through these things, so why not be like, dude, not
25:09
Speaker 1: the move. It's some deleted scenes on v H one
25:11
Speaker 1: that showed me call them stupid about a hundred times.
25:15
Speaker 1: And then I actually told her like, man, get away
25:17
Speaker 1: from him. Like you know what I'm saying, Like this
25:19
Speaker 1: man got a girl. You know, she was ultimately disrespectful.
25:22
Speaker 1: She told Yea his girlfriend that she slept with him
25:26
Speaker 1: the night of her dad's funeral. Yanks, she could have
25:30
Speaker 1: left that little detail. Yeah, that was just at that point, man.
25:32
Speaker 1: That's why I was talking about them people not on TV.
25:34
Speaker 1: She wouldn't leave me destroy you, right, They won't that fame.
25:37
Speaker 1: They need that fifteen minutes. Yeah, and that's what we
25:39
Speaker 1: had to realize. Like people, you know, for the fifteen minutes, Bro,
25:41
Speaker 1: they do whatever, go the limits full extent. I don't
25:44
Speaker 1: want to breeze past the fact that Ryan is out
25:47
Speaker 1: here being his brother's keeper so much to the point
25:50
Speaker 1: that he told the other woman get away from my man.
25:53
Speaker 1: Devil be gone. Yeah, we gotta do to protect ourselves
25:58
Speaker 1: and our people's man. Yeah, I mean, because it's like
26:01
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I'm already at a loss
26:03
Speaker 1: I'm not wa out there in Vegas, like now, I
26:05
Speaker 1: ain't that with my girl, Your girl out here and
26:07
Speaker 1: she on the way to the damn party and you
26:09
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, this broll she they was in
26:11
Speaker 1: the Jacuzi. She hopped in JACUZI was trying to you
26:13
Speaker 1: know that she was throwing it on him, and I'm
26:15
Speaker 1: just like, man like stayed over there, yeah night, MAAG
26:18
Speaker 1: might be the only place where you could fight at
26:20
Speaker 1: work and not get fired. What a set of black
26:22
Speaker 1: ain't crew? I resent that only because you know what
26:26
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, um, you know how, like I said,
26:29
Speaker 1: I knowing you for longer, you know how I feel
26:30
Speaker 1: about my business and you know about my brand, and
26:33
Speaker 1: for what has become on a television show has just
26:36
Speaker 1: been some you know what I mean, some garbage to
26:38
Speaker 1: be able to say that, you know what I mean,
26:39
Speaker 1: people walked in my shop from what they see on
26:42
Speaker 1: TV and be like, hey, man with a drink set,
26:43
Speaker 1: and it's like it's a business, right and I'm there
26:46
Speaker 1: conducting every day. So what's exuded on the show, you know,
26:50
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not what's really going on for me,
26:52
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. In the light, so that's
26:54
Speaker 1: why I opened a new shop. What you'll be seeing coming. So, um,
26:58
Speaker 1: it's a separation between you know what is what was
27:01
Speaker 1: done there before and what can go on now. Though
27:05
Speaker 1: we can yeah, I can show what I can do,
27:08
Speaker 1: but you know what everybody else is doing, what they're filming,
27:11
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I said, people will
27:12
Speaker 1: do whatever to be on that camera. You know what
27:14
Speaker 1: I mean, when it's time to fight it, when it's
27:15
Speaker 1: time to turn up, or what she thinks she got
27:17
Speaker 1: to do to secure her spot for another season. You
27:19
Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is it's literally like that,
27:21
Speaker 1: and they don't understand. It's like just because these cameras
27:24
Speaker 1: that were recording for thousands of hours, you get ten
27:26
Speaker 1: minutes later and the attention span of the people is
27:28
Speaker 1: even shorter. You know, So what you just did to
27:31
Speaker 1: diminish yourself and my business in the same sense, it's
27:34
Speaker 1: worth more than what you're trying to show, you know. So,
27:37
Speaker 1: and they put it out there and it's like you know,
27:39
Speaker 1: when it's edited for television, you know, people, that's what
27:42
Speaker 1: cuts to commercials, that's the stuff that make people tune
27:44
Speaker 1: back in. But you know it's tarnishing my Brandy because
27:48
Speaker 1: never forget Ryan is one of the best tattooed artists.
27:51
Speaker 1: When I press met him, he was known for doing
27:53
Speaker 1: tattoos and in Chicago, and I was like, I don't
27:56
Speaker 1: have any tattoos, as I've ever got a tattoo. I
27:57
Speaker 1: would let Ryan do it if I ever got one,
27:59
Speaker 1: because he he's like always been known for that. And
28:02
Speaker 1: when you first got on, I was like, don't have
28:03
Speaker 1: to fool I did I hit him? I said, I
28:07
Speaker 1: hit him. I sa Ryan, please don't be actually crazy
28:09
Speaker 1: on TV. Yeah, and it's got to be weird too,
28:11
Speaker 1: because a lot of confrontations and stuff probably happened only
28:13
Speaker 1: because the cameras roll. Absolutely, but you don't know what's
28:15
Speaker 1: really it was not right, you know, people turning out,
28:18
Speaker 1: how people get lost in it, man, Like it's it's disgusting, man.
28:21
Speaker 1: Now is it good for business in the sense of
28:24
Speaker 1: like more tattoo artists want to come apply just because
28:27
Speaker 1: it may want to be on TV? I don't know. Well,
28:28
Speaker 1: I mean most definite lists are like tattooing, it's a
28:31
Speaker 1: it's a visual business in there right now, in the
28:33
Speaker 1: climate of social media, you know what I mean, it's
28:35
Speaker 1: probably the best way to be promoted in you know network,
28:39
Speaker 1: so to be able to have an entertainment television show
28:43
Speaker 1: shows a little bit of the boy. But what I
28:45
Speaker 1: can get through that is, you know, some of the
28:47
Speaker 1: messages about how we really some South Side do from
28:50
Speaker 1: Chicago who conduct business and we didn't stand in the streets,
28:52
Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, it's more that can
28:54
Speaker 1: be done. We got more with the cast of Black
28:56
Speaker 1: and Clue Chicago. When we come back to it, move
28:58
Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club. Good Morning Morning, everybody is DJ Envy,
29:04
Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We all the Breakfast Club.
29:07
Speaker 1: We have the cast of Black and Crewe Chicago here,
29:10
Speaker 1: Ryan Henry and Don here. What I do love about
29:12
Speaker 1: Black in Chicago is y'all touch on some really real
29:15
Speaker 1: life issues. So we see the issues that Flour is
29:18
Speaker 1: going through and he's talking about And I actually cried
29:21
Speaker 1: when I was watching an episode. I felt so bad
29:23
Speaker 1: of him struggling with his depression and not wanting to
29:25
Speaker 1: be here and having these suicidal thoughts and then he
29:28
Speaker 1: went missing. So how is he doing now and how
29:31
Speaker 1: did he feel when he watched that episode? My brothers,
29:34
Speaker 1: well most of us to the point we barely watched
29:36
Speaker 1: the show and stuff, damn, so I know what I'm saying,
29:39
Speaker 1: Like no, it's like, no we do chatas you don't
29:42
Speaker 1: want to relive certain moments. Something would be too hard
29:44
Speaker 1: for you to go back and watch. It was the
29:45
Speaker 1: first episode we actually watched together. Was at my shop.
29:47
Speaker 1: Who was watching it but me and don you know
29:49
Speaker 1: what I mean? It was tough watching because he showed
29:52
Speaker 1: it in the real light, you know what I mean.
29:53
Speaker 1: He showed somebody that we love being weak and um.
29:56
Speaker 1: But what they would you know, what people would think
29:59
Speaker 1: is we you know, even that time we talked to
30:00
Speaker 1: four right afterward and he hadn't seen it, but he
30:03
Speaker 1: thought at that point you know what I mean, it
30:05
Speaker 1: was a vulnerable state from him where he was being
30:07
Speaker 1: viewed this week. But the response of the world was
30:09
Speaker 1: that it was some strength for most people, you know
30:12
Speaker 1: what I mean. In our community or even as black men,
30:14
Speaker 1: some people will act like the depression is just the norm,
30:17
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you should deal with it, like,
30:18
Speaker 1: especially in Chicago, is like the things that you deal with.
30:21
Speaker 1: It's like, man, you tell you get over that, you
30:23
Speaker 1: know what I mean? As opposed to being diagnosed, so
30:25
Speaker 1: being addressed or even like I said, he allowed for
30:28
Speaker 1: so many lanes of people reaching out to be like, man,
30:30
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with it two you know, by the millions
30:33
Speaker 1: to be able to say, oh, I finally can speak
30:35
Speaker 1: on it because I see you on television, But you're
30:37
Speaker 1: dealing with something real. I'm dealing with I've been dealing
30:39
Speaker 1: with that. And then we in this erator with mental
30:41
Speaker 1: health is being spoken about in our communities like it's
30:43
Speaker 1: never been. Yeah, that's never people sitting there videos like
30:46
Speaker 1: hey man, I was about to go today, like I
30:49
Speaker 1: was about like you literally saved the life that day.
30:51
Speaker 1: You know we can do one, you know, I mean,
30:53
Speaker 1: then that's what the purpose was for. And even with
30:55
Speaker 1: your family, you talk about the history and your own family.
30:58
Speaker 1: It's it's just tough because you know, after we had
31:00
Speaker 1: lost my little sister a couple years ago to suicide,
31:03
Speaker 1: Ryan didn't know like I just I'm real. I'm always
31:07
Speaker 1: trying to be an advocate about mental rather's depression, rather's
31:10
Speaker 1: you know, people will suffer from anxiety, people who suffering
31:13
Speaker 1: from like you know, he just when he was young. Everything. Man,
31:17
Speaker 1: You just I think people want to look at where
31:19
Speaker 1: a person at and they never can really see the
31:21
Speaker 1: wounds underneath. And so you know, me and Ryan have
31:24
Speaker 1: been those people that's like me, y'all stay up to
31:26
Speaker 1: five in the morning on the phone before or Ryan
31:29
Speaker 1: do the same thing, because I'd rather speak to you
31:30
Speaker 1: all night and you convince me all dayd for you
31:32
Speaker 1: to be a I took me all the time. I'll
31:34
Speaker 1: give up all of this to hit my sister's voice again,
31:36
Speaker 1: be to talk to them on the phone again. You know,
31:38
Speaker 1: that's more important. So for my for my brother to
31:42
Speaker 1: have the strength to be vulnerable to everybody know I'm
31:46
Speaker 1: dealing with this. It allowed for everybody to come together
31:48
Speaker 1: support him, which is what he needed. And I'm just
31:51
Speaker 1: glad that my brother had the strength to come forward
31:53
Speaker 1: with it because now allows us to put in help
31:55
Speaker 1: and supporting places that he needed. You know, he's fine
31:58
Speaker 1: with being open and saying he needs to go talk
32:00
Speaker 1: to somebody a little bit more often. And he's cool
32:02
Speaker 1: with calling us and say y'all, I'm lonely. They mean
32:04
Speaker 1: what y'all on, I want to chill when the hangou,
32:06
Speaker 1: I want to come over and see my nieces and
32:07
Speaker 1: nephews like. I love that he's doing that now because
32:09
Speaker 1: it allowed us to be that support Systel. Yeah, in
32:11
Speaker 1: that conversation, gonna change the generation because back in the
32:14
Speaker 1: day you called somebody and say something like that, man,
32:16
Speaker 1: like a little bit, you know exactly. That's whack. Brothers
32:21
Speaker 1: need people to talk to too, you know what I mean.
32:22
Speaker 1: We need to open up and be vulnerable with each other,
32:25
Speaker 1: tell each other what we're going through on a daily basis.
32:27
Speaker 1: You know what about you guys, does that make you
32:29
Speaker 1: reflect on because Ryan, you've been through a lot yourself,
32:32
Speaker 1: you know, John, You've been through a lot. Does that
32:34
Speaker 1: make you guys reflect and say, well, maybe I need
32:36
Speaker 1: to even seek some help or somebody that I could
32:39
Speaker 1: talk to professionally, just because there is a lot of
32:41
Speaker 1: things I'm sure that you haven't completely dealt with absolutely,
32:45
Speaker 1: you know. Like I said, I mean a lot of
32:47
Speaker 1: the things that I spoke to four on when during
32:51
Speaker 1: an episode and even during uh you know, in real life,
32:54
Speaker 1: is just the fact that like, hey, man, I know
32:55
Speaker 1: what it feels like to be in that position. I
32:57
Speaker 1: shared a story with him, you know about us situation
33:00
Speaker 1: I had been in that you know that I recognized
33:02
Speaker 1: now was the position that he was in. You know,
33:05
Speaker 1: you can have all these people around you, and you know,
33:07
Speaker 1: even me and his brother we felt like, hey man,
33:09
Speaker 1: I've been here with you, but even having that support
33:11
Speaker 1: of somebody right next to year, you can still feel
33:13
Speaker 1: alone at whatever point. And I had felt that before.
33:15
Speaker 1: I know what it was like to feel that way
33:17
Speaker 1: all the way down, you know, when you're at rock bottom,
33:19
Speaker 1: and I think I was, well, I was in my shop,
33:21
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, feeling that same way, and it
33:22
Speaker 1: was outside kicking it, you know what I mean. But
33:24
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I ain't had nobody to talk to,
33:26
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I understood that when
33:29
Speaker 1: I've been there with him every step of the way
33:31
Speaker 1: and he's still able to feel that way. You know,
33:32
Speaker 1: it's funny with mental health too, Like it got to
33:34
Speaker 1: be triple for y'all because you know, not only you
33:36
Speaker 1: got social media that the affecting everybody's meant to tell
33:38
Speaker 1: y'all learn reality television, so y'all opening up the opinions
33:41
Speaker 1: of other people every time an episode is how do
33:44
Speaker 1: y'all how do y'all keep y'all mental health intact? With that?
33:47
Speaker 1: I told him, like at one point, like he seemed
33:49
Speaker 1: like I had to get back into the gym heavy
33:51
Speaker 1: just for meditation for myself, and then I even go
33:53
Speaker 1: to a wellness coach. And to be honest with you,
33:55
Speaker 1: I know that y'all watched up, but we don't have
33:57
Speaker 1: to take breaks. You know, sometimes it does get tough
33:59
Speaker 1: to media your family going through my low wife, she
34:02
Speaker 1: was going for six months with my baby, and that
34:04
Speaker 1: was the realest time my life. I just took a
34:06
Speaker 1: break from the show, like it was hard, and Ryan
34:08
Speaker 1: do the same thing at one point, like you gotta
34:11
Speaker 1: have that outlet. I literally wasn't on the show for
34:15
Speaker 1: you know a while last year, you know what I mean.
34:16
Speaker 1: And you know, I just if I didn't reset it,
34:18
Speaker 1: I'd have been done. You know. I mean that that
34:20
Speaker 1: new level of of being attacked is something crazy, like
34:25
Speaker 1: people would think that, you know, just because you're at
34:27
Speaker 1: a certain level, you can't be this. That's why I
34:29
Speaker 1: heard even when it's your own people that was actually
34:31
Speaker 1: coming at you too, because they did the whole yeah man,
34:34
Speaker 1: Ryan Henry campaign. Yeah, they did an f Ryan Henry campaign.
34:39
Speaker 1: When I left my shop, and you know what I mean,
34:42
Speaker 1: the people that were still there, they took it over,
34:44
Speaker 1: and you know, it was just a whole, you know, Gryan, Henry, this,
34:47
Speaker 1: that and the other. And that's just like even though
34:49
Speaker 1: like I said, now you'll see moving forward as things
34:52
Speaker 1: have changed, like I said, I ain't forget you. That
34:58
Speaker 1: is yeah, I mean it comes that. It come from
35:00
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, being with people who you've
35:02
Speaker 1: worked with that I hurt, you know what I mean.
35:03
Speaker 1: They was hurt. I was hurt, you know what I mean.
35:05
Speaker 1: So I just I knew at that point I had to, uh,
35:08
Speaker 1: I had to retract because while they were saying for me,
35:10
Speaker 1: I couldn't say coming back, you know what I mean,
35:11
Speaker 1: because when it was time to move forward, you know
35:13
Speaker 1: what I mean, I didn't want to have to to
35:14
Speaker 1: apologize for but they were just going off the deep end.
35:17
Speaker 1: So you know, you got to take that in strike. Now,
35:19
Speaker 1: Charmaine gonna still be a celebrity concierge for you guys.
35:22
Speaker 1: I don't see one person she is CYNC. She planned
35:28
Speaker 1: a trip to Vegas and they look, I don't know,
35:36
Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't think having a you know,
35:39
Speaker 1: a fight at a convention and you know what I mean,
35:41
Speaker 1: a mental situation mental word in a situation on your
35:45
Speaker 1: hands is you know a plus for you in that job.
35:47
Speaker 1: So what about the word bitch because on the last episode,
35:51
Speaker 1: this fight broke out because of the side bitch comment
35:55
Speaker 1: that was made. Is calling another guy or using the
35:57
Speaker 1: word bitch to another guys that grounds to start a fight?
36:00
Speaker 1: Is that if you if I call you, I'm trying
36:03
Speaker 1: to do something to it. Like it's people who do that.
36:05
Speaker 1: I don't play with the word like that. I don't
36:06
Speaker 1: play with it with my friends, you know what I mean,
36:08
Speaker 1: Like my daddy can't call me, know like, I don't.
36:10
Speaker 1: I don't play with that word. It's not even to
36:12
Speaker 1: be played. Why would I disrespect you in that sense?
36:14
Speaker 1: I could have thought of something else, you know. So
36:16
Speaker 1: that's how I feel about something money. Yeah, just so
36:21
Speaker 1: people play like this, It's just like I don't play
36:24
Speaker 1: like that, So you know what I mean. When people
36:26
Speaker 1: saw my homie Junior calling, you know why he said that,
36:30
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And if he ran up
36:31
Speaker 1: on Junior after that, like the Junior had to be
36:33
Speaker 1: playing for that what he was, man, my boy, he
36:36
Speaker 1: knew why you well, I knew why I said it.
36:40
Speaker 1: At that point. It was it was it was a
36:42
Speaker 1: lot going on that was big and yeah a lot
36:47
Speaker 1: that like in that second white he was there and
36:49
Speaker 1: I get it first time on TV in the room
36:51
Speaker 1: full of guys. He won't want to seem like he
36:53
Speaker 1: was acting very like it was being I think like
36:55
Speaker 1: like I tell people all the time, like, man, really
36:58
Speaker 1: to recognize real you walk to anna be itself or
37:00
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Muna, people gonna gravitate to you.
37:03
Speaker 1: They could tell if you we tell you a goof,
37:05
Speaker 1: you're not just be yourself. And I'm telling you, man,
37:07
Speaker 1: social media is making everybody socially awkward because they're still
37:10
Speaker 1: used to talking to people like that on social media
37:12
Speaker 1: and they don't know how to interact more people in person.
37:16
Speaker 1: You really send it out a tweet? You know what
37:18
Speaker 1: I mean? Are you and the Brumer somebody on your
37:23
Speaker 1: computer right now? We face the face bro like man,
37:27
Speaker 1: you know what's you know? Every action got a reaction? Man,
37:30
Speaker 1: that was We got more with the cast of Black
37:32
Speaker 1: and Creue Chicago. When we come back, don't move. It's
37:35
Speaker 1: to breakfast clubs. Good morning right now morning. Everybody is
37:41
Speaker 1: DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy. We all the
37:45
Speaker 1: breakfast club we have the cast of Black and Creue
37:47
Speaker 1: Chicago here Ryan Henry, and Don here Yan. People were
37:51
Speaker 1: excited that you had your shirt off on this last episode.
37:55
Speaker 1: Did a whole article about it. Yeah, yeah, I've seen
37:58
Speaker 1: it yesterday about that priest was So I was telling him,
38:02
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh so, just being in my position, like
38:05
Speaker 1: I said, you know with me how I am. I'm
38:08
Speaker 1: a provider and I'm a protected you know, especially when
38:10
Speaker 1: it comes to women. There were women in the shop,
38:14
Speaker 1: and regardless of what they went over there to say
38:16
Speaker 1: to him, his mouth was already bleeding and he spit
38:18
Speaker 1: blood in her face. So when he did that, like, man,
38:22
Speaker 1: you know, my sisters have been killed by feel like
38:25
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. At that point of a
38:26
Speaker 1: woman being in harm, I was just at red, you
38:29
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So for some reason I thought,
38:30
Speaker 1: all right, is blood, let me not get it on
38:32
Speaker 1: my white sweater, as if my skin was better to
38:34
Speaker 1: get it on. So, you know, because you look like
38:40
Speaker 1: he fight after you fight, and then it's blood all
38:43
Speaker 1: of you, you look crazy, you know, I mean, especially
38:45
Speaker 1: you get a white tea on. So yeah, that's what
38:47
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was just like, let me
38:48
Speaker 1: take that off. And in just we had been in
38:51
Speaker 1: a gym like crazy for those those couple of months,
38:53
Speaker 1: so you didn't see any episode of us like anything
38:57
Speaker 1: we do, like women getting touched the space as well.
38:59
Speaker 1: We don't play point. We were getting some backlash from
39:02
Speaker 1: people like, oh, man, y'all jumped from y'all this. It's
39:05
Speaker 1: like when he first ran up on Junior there was
39:08
Speaker 1: a one on one live in these women's face. Everybody
39:12
Speaker 1: hit you up that. I mean, all systems go when
39:14
Speaker 1: the women are. I mean, if I'm messing with you
39:17
Speaker 1: and I put my hands on you, if your father,
39:19
Speaker 1: your brother, and your uncle come to me up, they're
39:21
Speaker 1: not wrong, right, know what I mean, I'll do it
39:24
Speaker 1: all over again. I told him. I talked to him,
39:26
Speaker 1: and I told him like, hey, man, I didn't want
39:28
Speaker 1: that harm to come to you, you know what I mean, Like,
39:30
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, didn't have to happen to you, but you
39:32
Speaker 1: knew you was in the wrong. Right Is he understanding?
39:34
Speaker 1: Was he he was understanding of it? He knew what
39:36
Speaker 1: it was. Do you feel like the crew is stronger now?
39:40
Speaker 1: I think yeah. You know what, for the basis of
39:43
Speaker 1: the people who originally started we are you know what
39:46
Speaker 1: I mean, but I mean it's other entities is included
39:48
Speaker 1: into that, you know. I mean people have come into
39:50
Speaker 1: the show. Uh, they've been staying and um, you know
39:53
Speaker 1: they caused riffraff, you know, so uh as a whole
39:56
Speaker 1: unit for the cast. Um, it's not as strong egos
39:59
Speaker 1: and involved now, you know what I mean. People are
40:01
Speaker 1: five seasons in on the number one successful show. They
40:04
Speaker 1: feel away, you know what I mean. So some people
40:06
Speaker 1: can't be talked to, some people can't be told nothing.
40:09
Speaker 1: Some people feel like, man, you know that Superstar is crazy.
40:13
Speaker 1: At that point, it's like, all right, let me just
40:14
Speaker 1: stick back with my originals, you know what I mean. Again,
40:16
Speaker 1: we'll see what else happened with everybody else if you
40:18
Speaker 1: can last. But I mean, one thing is just like
40:21
Speaker 1: if you've seen even in that that was so one
40:24
Speaker 1: thing is this, like, man, we're gonna round for each
40:25
Speaker 1: other regardless whatever the situation. We're gonna have always have
40:28
Speaker 1: each other back. We're coming together and learning the process.
40:32
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, I'm proud of my brother
40:34
Speaker 1: Ryan for doing his research on what we need to
40:37
Speaker 1: do to be fully successful while having this experience and
40:42
Speaker 1: then after the whole point is learning the longevity of
40:45
Speaker 1: utilizing this platform so that we all are able to
40:47
Speaker 1: look back on and say, at least we didn't go
40:50
Speaker 1: through all that bullets that came out of it at
40:51
Speaker 1: the end. All right, you know, I mean you just
40:53
Speaker 1: opened up another shop. So yeah, just open a new
40:56
Speaker 1: shop actually on a fifth of January. You know, so
41:00
Speaker 1: this separate from the show, you know what I mean,
41:02
Speaker 1: Like it's all in my hands, you know what I mean.
41:04
Speaker 1: We got more shops coming, you know, me and Donn
41:07
Speaker 1: are working on some other things, you know what I mean,
41:09
Speaker 1: just going into so many different lanes of investable I
41:12
Speaker 1: like taking my kids to school in the morning, going
41:15
Speaker 1: to work for a little bit, and then being with
41:16
Speaker 1: them once I pick them up for the rest of
41:17
Speaker 1: the day. Damn. So life, greatest salute do you Ryan?
41:22
Speaker 1: It dumb? And I love what you'll stand for. Man, Yeah,
41:24
Speaker 1: no more naked videos and nothing. Oh man, I'm cooler, man,
41:29
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm good, like I swear like it. Just
41:32
Speaker 1: take a moment, man, It's just like it hits you
41:34
Speaker 1: like a light bulb and sometimes to take the worst
41:36
Speaker 1: things and like that happen for you to realize like
41:39
Speaker 1: you just got change or you're just gonna be in
41:41
Speaker 1: a like a down spiral. I'm just to that place
41:43
Speaker 1: where I have to protect my family. That's the first
41:46
Speaker 1: thing I am a husband, father, son, you know, a
41:48
Speaker 1: brother to be in order to protect my people, I
41:51
Speaker 1: gotta be on point at times. That's dope. That's nice. Man,
41:55
Speaker 1: is part of the fitful black mail community. I'm going
41:58
Speaker 1: I enjoy. I enjoy arguing about who picking up the
42:00
Speaker 1: kids today, but you know who cooking a night. That's cool.
42:06
Speaker 1: You know, I'm cool with them. Arguments, man, all the
42:08
Speaker 1: other stuff for the birds. And I know you feel
42:10
Speaker 1: responsible for your dad now too, and it's nice to
42:12
Speaker 1: him to be in that loving environment with the family. Man.
42:15
Speaker 1: It's real because like my dad has always been like
42:18
Speaker 1: a strong man to me, Like I was that kid
42:20
Speaker 1: who literally saw his dad a superman. I love my dad, man,
42:23
Speaker 1: And for him to be going through what he's going through,
42:26
Speaker 1: through the losses we took. He lost his mother at first,
42:28
Speaker 1: he lost my uncle, uncle durl and then my grandmother
42:32
Speaker 1: passed who grieving over losing her son. So for my
42:34
Speaker 1: dad to lose some of the most important people in
42:36
Speaker 1: his life, like back to back, and it was it's
42:38
Speaker 1: just like he never just kind of bounced back from it,
42:40
Speaker 1: and he felt almost responsible. And sometimes that's how people are.
42:44
Speaker 1: We feel responsible when for our people when to take
42:46
Speaker 1: a long time for us to heal from it. And
42:49
Speaker 1: that's just one of my dad that he had a
42:50
Speaker 1: healing point. And I just want to see him be
42:52
Speaker 1: great and be around for his grandkids, teach them the
42:55
Speaker 1: things he's taught me, and be a part, you know,
42:57
Speaker 1: just being around. He loved these guys. He loved my
42:59
Speaker 1: dad is. My day is like a life of a
43:01
Speaker 1: part of me. Here, come in and kick it, crack jokes.
43:03
Speaker 1: He's a great person and it's just tough. Like I'm
43:06
Speaker 1: just glad my dad is able to admit to me too. Like, man,
43:08
Speaker 1: So I'm going through it and I need you Jo.
43:11
Speaker 1: I'm fine being film. I'm find being for anybody at
43:14
Speaker 1: this point in my life. So Season six on the
43:16
Speaker 1: way immediately, immediately we will be done with five and
43:21
Speaker 1: about you know, a few weeks. We need to come
43:23
Speaker 1: on to Wednesday day. Wednesdays lady too busy, man, I'll
43:28
Speaker 1: be trying. Man, I can't do it. I'm like season six, yeah, man,
43:36
Speaker 1: thank god Ryan got head now yeah yeah, but when
43:42
Speaker 1: day h one time nine ninety Central, right, and this
43:45
Speaker 1: season has been amazing. So I just want to say
43:47
Speaker 1: congratulations to y'all, thank you so much. Appreciate that. Or
43:51
Speaker 1: Black and Crew Chicago, Ryan Henry and Don Broomfield, thank
43:53
Speaker 1: you for coming, Bron. We're gonna start this thing over wanting.
43:59
Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela, Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
44:02
Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. If you want to sland to
44:04
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club, call us right now. Hello, who's this?
44:07
Speaker 1: This is Miss Friday Angela. We love y'all, Evy, y'all
44:11
Speaker 1: love you too. But Envy, I've got to let you
44:13
Speaker 1: know from your social media, we all see how you've
44:17
Speaker 1: been getting money, and we respect the hustle. But the
44:20
Speaker 1: piers they were a little counting and rustlings to other
44:24
Speaker 1: people that are not out here getting it like you.
44:27
Speaker 1: I would have Russ. You showed us ways in different
44:30
Speaker 1: things other than slipping their houses, on how to get
44:32
Speaker 1: back and take care of our family for the communities.
44:35
Speaker 1: Also easy. You seem to be a little biased, like
44:38
Speaker 1: you're riding this Cardi B Trained, but she show Nikki
44:41
Speaker 1: no love. I love Nikki. I love Cardi B. Too,
44:44
Speaker 1: but I do If you follow my Instagram, you see
44:46
Speaker 1: that I talk about my toys for my toy drive,
44:49
Speaker 1: I talk about the Thanksgiving drive that I do in
44:51
Speaker 1: the mentoring and I also try to help people to
44:54
Speaker 1: learn how to make money, not just put money in
44:56
Speaker 1: their face. I do the real estate. I do a
44:58
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things. So if you would follow me
45:00
Speaker 1: and stop looking at that, maybe you see other things.
45:03
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that, she says a lot of I
45:10
Speaker 1: knew the beige was gonna come out. I know I'm
45:13
Speaker 1: trying to teach you. If you're just listening, I'm trying
45:17
Speaker 1: to teach you. I was waiting for the Beige raised
45:19
Speaker 1: to make an appearance. That's funny to you. It's hilarious.
45:29
Speaker 1: Day Trio Da is in the building representing Virginia. Morning,
45:34
Speaker 1: Good morning. You want to sland the ye You know,
45:36
Speaker 1: every time I hear yeaths, I think ye. I think
45:38
Speaker 1: the heath. I hate the name. I can deal with Angela.
45:41
Speaker 1: She didn't Angela. She didn't make that name. Mamma. And
45:46
Speaker 1: by the way, you eat yeast every day, she has
45:48
Speaker 1: the yeast infection. Ye be sensitive to her. Okay, clearly
45:51
Speaker 1: she has the east infection. Her name sounds itchy, and
45:54
Speaker 1: I just hate it. I tease my name to Angela Minustad,
45:59
Speaker 1: that Angelamanus, that left wall of hers. It's so crazy
46:05
Speaker 1: right now, So you gotta be you sense it called appropriate? Andrew, Hey,
46:10
Speaker 1: good morning. Who you want to slander, sir? DJV, I
46:12
Speaker 1: gotta slander you were real quick. I got a problem with, like,
46:15
Speaker 1: how insecure you are? Well, Angela goes on vacation, rate
46:23
Speaker 1: you do you do the rumor report. When Charlott Magne
46:27
Speaker 1: goes on vacation, you let the community do don't the
46:29
Speaker 1: other day, But when you go on vacation, you still
46:31
Speaker 1: try to do that. Dj MV. You should let me
46:34
Speaker 1: do it. Ye make people's choice. Why don't you want
46:36
Speaker 1: somebody else to do this? Yeah? A couple of times
46:39
Speaker 1: and he actually dead here. Yeah, you're right. I'm insecure.
46:45
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let nobody compare and do my mix.
46:48
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, I don't even want to give
46:49
Speaker 1: somebody that that sort. I don't want anybody to think
46:52
Speaker 1: about it. Roberto, what's p damn? What's going on? What's
46:58
Speaker 1: happening in? What's happening in an slay that today day?
47:01
Speaker 1: We gotta talk k K listen. You say you deleted
47:05
Speaker 1: everything R Kelly from your computer? See Poppy, So you
47:09
Speaker 1: deleted stepping the name of love? Yes, see see everything
47:13
Speaker 1: all Telly because the songs are negative. See. I cannot
47:16
Speaker 1: support him anymore. He's a don't do that fake accident.
47:19
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to slay to you. Did you delete
47:21
Speaker 1: Maxwell Fortunate? He wrote and produced that? Did you delete Life?
47:29
Speaker 1: Produced and wrote that too? You're not listening, Sammy, So
47:32
Speaker 1: so you're not listening. If you're gonna delete R Telly,
47:35
Speaker 1: you have to delete the whole laptop, my friend, because
47:38
Speaker 1: what have you played lately? That's positive? What's song in
47:41
Speaker 1: your laptop right now? That you played that? He's positive? Lamar,
47:45
Speaker 1: we got you, Lamar, what's song right now? I know
47:50
Speaker 1: a song? I can I can name a song. He
47:52
Speaker 1: played that with positive. Smile, bitch, smile, you need to smile.
47:57
Speaker 1: You're too angry. Hey, going back and forward, I'm living
48:01
Speaker 1: my best time. And make sure you're tell him to
48:09
Speaker 1: watch you'all for Florida. The craziest people in America come
48:14
Speaker 1: from the Bronx and all of Florida. Yes, you are
48:18
Speaker 1: a donkey, a Florida man, a chap and ATM for
48:22
Speaker 1: a very strange reason. It gave him too much money.
48:24
Speaker 1: Florida man is arrested. I can definitely say he's riggs
48:27
Speaker 1: the door to his home and an attempt to elect
48:28
Speaker 1: your hit his clidet's life. Police arrested in Orlando. Man.
48:31
Speaker 1: We're talking of La to breakfast club. Bitchy donkey here
48:34
Speaker 1: to day with charlom Haining the guy. I don't know
48:36
Speaker 1: why y'all keep letting him get y'alllected well, I'll do already,
48:40
Speaker 1: keep letting me get him like this because they keep
48:42
Speaker 1: doing things like this, all right. Donkey today goes to
48:45
Speaker 1: a substitute teacher at a school and Sarah so to
48:49
Speaker 1: Florida named Heather Carpenter. Now it's twenty nineteen and nothing
48:52
Speaker 1: has changed when it comes to the Sunshine State. If
48:54
Speaker 1: you're new to the Breakfast Club, my name is Charlomagne
48:56
Speaker 1: the guard, a uncle Charlot. And what did your uncle
48:58
Speaker 1: Charla always tell you? The craziest people in America come
49:01
Speaker 1: from the Bronx in all of Florida. And this Donkey
49:04
Speaker 1: of today is just the fresh reminder of twenty nineteen.
49:07
Speaker 1: Got Florida gone Florida. Now, Heather Coppenter, like I told you,
49:10
Speaker 1: as a substitute teacher. For whatever reason, she had a
49:13
Speaker 1: dispute with the school's principle. Heather was allegedly upset to
49:16
Speaker 1: the school's principle was set to have a birthday party
49:19
Speaker 1: at a particular venue. The venue in question was the
49:22
Speaker 1: pavilion in Erfa Park. Now, I don't know what Heather
49:25
Speaker 1: has against the principle or the principal's daughter, but Heather,
49:29
Speaker 1: a substitute teacher, decided to be a party pooper. Literally,
49:33
Speaker 1: let's go to Fox thirteen for the report. Police. All
49:35
Speaker 1: eight of these picnic tables here at Erfur Family Park
49:38
Speaker 1: had to be replaced after a woman spread human waste
49:41
Speaker 1: and fecal matter all over the wood as a form
49:43
Speaker 1: of payback. Let's mixture of urine and feces, and she
49:47
Speaker 1: had it in a big cup. The nasty vandalism costs
49:49
Speaker 1: the county more than twenty three hundred dollars for cleanup,
49:53
Speaker 1: replacing tables and grills, and reimbursing and rescheduling a birthday
49:56
Speaker 1: party set for the pavilion later that morning. It only
49:59
Speaker 1: to the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office a few days to
50:02
Speaker 1: track down and arrest Heather Carpenter. The forty two year
50:05
Speaker 1: old is charged with felony criminal mischief. Turns out, Carpenter
50:09
Speaker 1: is a substitute teacher at Philippi Shores Elementary School. According
50:12
Speaker 1: to arrest paperwork, Carpenter wasn't happy with how the principle
50:16
Speaker 1: handled a professional complaint she made. At the end of November,
50:19
Speaker 1: the Sarasota woman admitted to investigators she smeared the feces
50:23
Speaker 1: with the goal of spoiling the birthday party planned at
50:25
Speaker 1: the park that day. The celebration was for the principal's daughter.
50:28
Speaker 1: Official say Carpenter is no longer a substitute and can't
50:31
Speaker 1: volunteer at any district schools. Well, this investigation is active.
50:35
Speaker 1: You think Heather was with the sugar honey iced teas. Okay? Now,
50:40
Speaker 1: I have a homeboy who shall remain nameless, who used
50:42
Speaker 1: to have a real problem beating people up. So he
50:44
Speaker 1: went to angle management as part of his probation for
50:47
Speaker 1: beating people up. So whenever he wanted to beat people up,
50:49
Speaker 1: instead he would resort to fighting with pieces. What I
50:52
Speaker 1: mean by that's wax is crazy. I didn't say him.
50:55
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is if he had a
50:57
Speaker 1: beef with someone, he would cut your cars he opened
50:59
Speaker 1: and put ankleberries in the cushions, or he might go
51:02
Speaker 1: on your house and put a couple of chocolate delights
51:04
Speaker 1: in your sneakers. I remember it is I remember he
51:07
Speaker 1: had an issue with his next door neighbor, and the
51:09
Speaker 1: next door neighbor's roommate, you know, let him in the house.
51:12
Speaker 1: So my guy put butt truffles in the neighbor's couch cushions.
51:15
Speaker 1: What's a butt truffle turd? Never understood why the roommate
51:19
Speaker 1: was down with that, because he had to live there too.
51:22
Speaker 1: All right, tomorrow of the story is it's just some
51:24
Speaker 1: real live turn terrorists out here, and Heather Carpenter is
51:27
Speaker 1: clearly wanted them. My thing is, Heather, you got beef
51:31
Speaker 1: with the principle, why resort to attacking the kids, Because
51:33
Speaker 1: that's essentially what you were doing about spreading button mud
51:36
Speaker 1: all over the picnic tables and grills at this part,
51:38
Speaker 1: none of the adults were gonna be affected by these
51:40
Speaker 1: rusty nuggets. I mean, sure, you put some rector warriors
51:43
Speaker 1: on the grills, so that means everybody's burger would end
51:46
Speaker 1: up getting fudge. Babies on them. But why do that
51:48
Speaker 1: to the kids? Okay, what is something else to r
51:51
Speaker 1: Uncle Charla always tells you never go to war with
51:54
Speaker 1: someone who gives an f less than you, And clearly,
51:56
Speaker 1: Heather Carpenter don't give an f anyone can get it, man,
52:00
Speaker 1: women and children. If she got beef with you, then
52:02
Speaker 1: all of y'all getting butt beans, all right, everybody at
52:05
Speaker 1: this party gonna get all the fanny fud. You can
52:08
Speaker 1: eat chocolate bananas for everybody, simply because I got beef
52:13
Speaker 1: with one person. I'm telling you don't go to war
52:15
Speaker 1: with somebody who gives an f lest than you, especially
52:17
Speaker 1: erect the warrior. Now Heather has been charged with third
52:20
Speaker 1: degree felony mischief in property damage, and there's no way
52:24
Speaker 1: she can be in population with other prisoners because what
52:26
Speaker 1: if this tird terrorists decided to let a bunch of
52:28
Speaker 1: frightened turtles loose in a prison. Did you really want
52:32
Speaker 1: a corn massacre in one of these correctional facilities? Think
52:35
Speaker 1: about it, Florida, Please give Heather carbon to the biggest
52:38
Speaker 1: he are. I don't want to hear your question. Now
52:43
Speaker 1: I got a question so for her to carry in
52:46
Speaker 1: your guys, your friends, you know, terd terrorists. So he
52:50
Speaker 1: does he does he poop on the floor and pick
52:52
Speaker 1: it up. Never asked if it was human fisis. It
52:55
Speaker 1: could have been dog fisis. I don't know what kind
52:57
Speaker 1: of fisis it was was using. Come just cars like
52:59
Speaker 1: do you just pick out? Know what kind of feasts
53:00
Speaker 1: Heather was using? Okay, you know what I'm saying, just assumed.
53:03
Speaker 1: I'm just assuming it's hers. I just need to pick
53:06
Speaker 1: it up or are you going to toilet? And I'm
53:07
Speaker 1: just saying, if you got to go to a prison,
53:09
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's your weapon of choice.
53:12
Speaker 1: You always got someone Jack, I always got someone day right,
53:15
Speaker 1: I'm pretty regular at of fact eight thirty this morning.
53:18
Speaker 1: If anybody and he turned terrorists need something, holler at me.
53:20
Speaker 1: I got it for the low. My goodness. Um, let
53:25
Speaker 1: me see what I had. Well last I had fish
53:27
Speaker 1: for dinner. This morning, I had my regular approach. Should
53:29
Speaker 1: always look at this, figure out how well you're doing
53:31
Speaker 1: as far as your diet. I never looked at my pool.
53:34
Speaker 1: That's got to make sure it looks normal. Texture. All right, guys,
53:40
Speaker 1: the breakfast club back you're checking out the World's most
53:46
Speaker 1: dangerous morning show. Morning Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee,
53:51
Speaker 1: Charlemane the guy. We all the breakfast Club. We got
53:53
Speaker 1: a special guest in the building, Michael Eric Dyson. Good brother,
53:57
Speaker 1: Michael Eric. Damn man, it's good to be up here
53:59
Speaker 1: with y'all. See, you got a nice little book in
54:02
Speaker 1: your hand. You just handed it to me, and now
54:03
Speaker 1: I'm sou I don't want to start reading it. No, man,
54:06
Speaker 1: this thing is off the hook. Veronica Chambers as an
54:08
Speaker 1: extraordinary woman. She did that book, that edited book collection
54:11
Speaker 1: essays on Michelle Obama that did so well last year,
54:15
Speaker 1: and then this new book, Look, it's hot off the press.
54:17
Speaker 1: It ain't even out yet. They come out next month
54:19
Speaker 1: called Queen Bee, a celebration of the power and creativity
54:22
Speaker 1: of Beyonce Knows Carter and I got an essay in
54:26
Speaker 1: there all right, called the King of Popping, the Queen
54:28
Speaker 1: of Everything. And my argument is that Beyonce snatched the
54:32
Speaker 1: crown from Michael Jackson. I saw him at his height.
54:34
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all went to his concerts and
54:35
Speaker 1: saw him at his height, but I did not, and
54:37
Speaker 1: he was extraordinary. It's a genius but what she's doing
54:40
Speaker 1: is on another level. I'm on record as saying I
54:42
Speaker 1: think that she's a better performer than Michael Jackson. But
54:45
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't see Michael in contract. But
54:47
Speaker 1: I just compare, like, you know, the Black Michael at
54:50
Speaker 1: the super Bowl to Beyonce at the super Bowl, Motown
54:52
Speaker 1: twenty five, the Big Cheller, Like I just compare those
54:55
Speaker 1: type of things, and I'm like, I just think she's
54:57
Speaker 1: better on stage. She she absolutely is. I did see
55:00
Speaker 1: them at their height. Since you said that she took
55:02
Speaker 1: the crown from Michael Jackson. When you think about all
55:04
Speaker 1: this Finding Neverland controversy with this documentary that HBO is
55:08
Speaker 1: going to show about Michael Jackson, Yeah, you know, it's tough,
55:12
Speaker 1: isn't it. Michael was a great icon, an extraordinary genius.
55:16
Speaker 1: Nineteen fifty eight, Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson. I mean, happens
55:21
Speaker 1: to be my year too, but I ain't putting myself
55:22
Speaker 1: in their league. Just extraordinary creativity was born in that year.
55:26
Speaker 1: And yet we know that Michael had tremendous traumas did
55:30
Speaker 1: he have videlago, certainly in terms of his skin and melanin,
55:34
Speaker 1: but he also had self hatred because his father deposited
55:38
Speaker 1: that in his subconscious he didn't think he was very handsome,
55:41
Speaker 1: or he told him he was ugly and he chided him,
55:43
Speaker 1: and then Michael began to have spooky European ideals transplanted
55:47
Speaker 1: onto his face. Was he involved with children, That's what
55:52
Speaker 1: the documentary says. Those two guys when they were younger
55:55
Speaker 1: said it wasn't true. But we know what happens when
55:58
Speaker 1: you're younger and you're seduced and the hypnotics way of
56:01
Speaker 1: fame and celebrity may preclude you from telling the truth,
56:04
Speaker 1: or your parents got bought out and then they sold
56:07
Speaker 1: you out. All of that is true, but think about it,
56:10
Speaker 1: hanging out with kids like that at that age. It ain't.
56:13
Speaker 1: It ain't something that we would recommend. It's not something
56:15
Speaker 1: that we would do for our own kids. It ain't.
56:19
Speaker 1: And if it is normal, it's pathological. So the thing
56:22
Speaker 1: is we have to be open and honest. It's hard
56:24
Speaker 1: to reckon with the flaws of our great heroes, and
56:28
Speaker 1: all of us as human beings are flawed. But we
56:31
Speaker 1: got to go where the evidence, you know, tracks us.
56:33
Speaker 1: But that's important where the evidence tracks us because we're
56:36
Speaker 1: living in a me too generation. That is extremely important
56:41
Speaker 1: in terms of reckoning with the flaws, especially of toxic masculinity,
56:46
Speaker 1: of poisonous patriarchy, and how men have had free, if
56:51
Speaker 1: you will, free ways to do everything that we do
56:54
Speaker 1: that are often messed up and jacked up. At the
56:57
Speaker 1: same time, you can't just have an allegation and your
57:00
Speaker 1: career is done. You can't just disappear after somebody said something.
57:04
Speaker 1: You know the mantras out now believe women, and I
57:06
Speaker 1: understand what that means. That means that women who have
57:08
Speaker 1: historically been not acknowledged, have been denied, have been delegitimated
57:13
Speaker 1: in a culture that refuses to acknowledge their humanity or
57:16
Speaker 1: that the words they say are true, or to take
57:18
Speaker 1: at face value what they mean. I get that. At
57:22
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, it doesn't mean that people
57:25
Speaker 1: haven't been in complicated situations where nuance is called for.
57:29
Speaker 1: Believe people who tell the truth, because whether man or woman,
57:33
Speaker 1: and we know that's very complicated. Believe black people. Yeah,
57:36
Speaker 1: believe black people who tell the truth. And when we
57:40
Speaker 1: have the state of evidence here now that you can
57:43
Speaker 1: merely make an allegation and somebody disappear, I think that's problematic.
57:47
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the best ideas of feminism. I
57:50
Speaker 1: think feminism is height Now. I know a lot of
57:51
Speaker 1: people who think that's controversial. I don't think so at all.
57:54
Speaker 1: Feminism is about the recognition of women. It's about putting
57:57
Speaker 1: forth the principle of emancipation for human beings who happen
58:01
Speaker 1: to be women. And it's dealing with gender as the
58:03
Speaker 1: predicate for our social examination of issues that continue to
58:08
Speaker 1: be shunted to the priphery or deny legitimacy in our
58:11
Speaker 1: own lives and socially speaking. But at the same time,
58:15
Speaker 1: you can't use me too as an adjudication of competing
58:17
Speaker 1: claims about good dates or bad dates. It can't resolve
58:21
Speaker 1: horrible sex. It can't resolve the fact that it's complicated.
58:24
Speaker 1: I am sixty years old. I have never in my
58:27
Speaker 1: life asked a woman to have sex. Now. I know
58:29
Speaker 1: affirmative consent has developed because now we're living in an
58:32
Speaker 1: era where people have to say something explicitly, but there
58:35
Speaker 1: are other manifestations of consent rather than verbal. But I
58:38
Speaker 1: think we have gotten off the rails here by not
58:41
Speaker 1: grappling with the nuanced, complicated ways in which sex and
58:46
Speaker 1: eroticism and romance get involved. So we've got to figure
58:50
Speaker 1: out a way to acknowledge the context of sex. If
58:54
Speaker 1: you want to be nuanced about anything in this country,
58:58
Speaker 1: it's got to be sex. But let's not ten ween
59:00
Speaker 1: in the age we are now, and that a different
59:02
Speaker 1: age prevailed not long ago. Do we have amnesty? Do
59:05
Speaker 1: we say, hey, rules used to be this way, not
59:08
Speaker 1: even unchanged up. Now we're retroactively going back and holding
59:11
Speaker 1: people of accountable for now. Don't get me wrong here,
59:15
Speaker 1: not for explicit sins, not for problems, not for legally
59:18
Speaker 1: challengeable activities and behaviors that should be held to the
59:22
Speaker 1: highest account. But when we're talking about nuance and interpretation,
59:25
Speaker 1: do you like it? Do you not like it? No
59:27
Speaker 1: means no period. And yet in the interaction between men
59:31
Speaker 1: and women, many people who turn people down twenty five
59:33
Speaker 1: times and not married with three kids. Right, that's the
59:36
Speaker 1: kind of reality of sex that we're not seeing taken
59:40
Speaker 1: in a serious fashion, in a nuanced way in the
59:43
Speaker 1: broader public discourse about that. I know we got off
59:45
Speaker 1: of that on the Michael Jackson thing. But the Michael
59:48
Speaker 1: Jackson thing to me is about nuance and complication and
59:51
Speaker 1: being willing to face up to the flaws of our
59:53
Speaker 1: iconic figures and at the same time seat their humanity
59:56
Speaker 1: and then figure out what to do from now. You
59:58
Speaker 1: said a lot of three things. I want to say.
1:00:00
Speaker 1: Number one, I agree. I think you should listen to everybody,
1:00:03
Speaker 1: listen to all women, but believe all proof too. I
1:00:07
Speaker 1: think the Michael Jackson thing is unethical only because those
1:00:09
Speaker 1: guys did you don't understand and say, hey, nothing happened,
1:00:13
Speaker 1: and they said that all through their adulthood. Even the
1:00:14
Speaker 1: God's mom said he really even said in Ape Michael.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: And Third, yes, we're not acknowledging that culture has changed.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: We grew up in and told me today the eighty
1:00:23
Speaker 1: to nineties was totally different than now, with language, with action,
1:00:28
Speaker 1: everything right. So I'm saying that you can't both assert
1:00:31
Speaker 1: the necessity of the agency of human beings, especially women,
1:00:35
Speaker 1: as agents of their own sexual desire, and then deny
1:00:38
Speaker 1: that agency when it comes time to talk about culpability
1:00:41
Speaker 1: and responsibility and mutuality. So it is important that we
1:00:44
Speaker 1: encourage women when there's bad behaviors to be able to
1:00:47
Speaker 1: feel that they have power to speak about it and
1:00:50
Speaker 1: that they will be supported because I still see when
1:00:52
Speaker 1: women say things, people don't believe them. They think that
1:00:55
Speaker 1: they're just trying to, you know, get some cloud off
1:00:58
Speaker 1: of saying something. So it is different time for women
1:01:01
Speaker 1: who and think about the women who still won't come forward,
1:01:03
Speaker 1: that's still it's too scared to do that. I think
1:01:05
Speaker 1: those numbers are far greater than somebody that will say
1:01:08
Speaker 1: something like, oh I dated him and I had buyers
1:01:10
Speaker 1: with Morse the next day. But what I'm trying to say,
1:01:13
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you just said. I'm not denying
1:01:15
Speaker 1: the legitimacy of women having the voice now to come forward.
1:01:19
Speaker 1: The reality is is that we are not We cannot
1:01:22
Speaker 1: resolve the infinite complexity of human relationality and the intimate
1:01:27
Speaker 1: relations of sex with a resort to a kind of
1:01:32
Speaker 1: all or nothing approach. And I think that's part of
1:01:34
Speaker 1: the problem. We got more with Michael Eric Dyson. Where
1:01:37
Speaker 1: we come back, don't move is to breakfast Club, Goal
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Speaker 1: Morning Yea. Where back is the breakfast club dj N
1:01:46
Speaker 1: v Angeluee, Charlemagne the guy we have Michael Eric Diyson
1:01:49
Speaker 1: in the building. What do you think about this era's
1:01:52
Speaker 1: cancel coach and mentality? I love young people. I ride
1:01:55
Speaker 1: with him. I write books about here by bud canceling.
1:01:57
Speaker 1: That's some white supremacist notion to me. First of all,
1:02:00
Speaker 1: you can't cancel nobody. You ain't got no subscription to
1:02:02
Speaker 1: a magazine or a credit card. You ain't canceling nothing.
1:02:04
Speaker 1: And if you want to cancel something, cancel Donald Trump.
1:02:06
Speaker 1: How idiotic is that? Because you can't cancel Trump. He's
1:02:09
Speaker 1: there politically, He's an existential and empirical fact that you
1:02:12
Speaker 1: can't dismiss because I'm done with you read the hand.
1:02:15
Speaker 1: Digital culture cannot deal with analog realities, it seems to me,
1:02:19
Speaker 1: and an analog reality here is there are persistent social
1:02:23
Speaker 1: facts and features of our existence that have to be
1:02:26
Speaker 1: dealt with. I want to say that again. Digital coaching
1:02:28
Speaker 1: can't handle analog facts sometimes, I mean, and that's what
1:02:31
Speaker 1: the deal is, right, because here we are we canceling.
1:02:33
Speaker 1: There were some analog canceling going on too. I mentioned
1:02:36
Speaker 1: Malcolm X, who was murdered by people who were intolerant
1:02:39
Speaker 1: of his viewpoint canceled him. Now, now, young people will
1:02:42
Speaker 1: tell me that's a metaphor. But the metaphor to me
1:02:45
Speaker 1: is wrought. It's it's it's it's not only is it flawed.
1:02:49
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's it's especially flawed because it
1:02:52
Speaker 1: borrows from the very logic we want to oppose. Right,
1:02:55
Speaker 1: white supremacy wants to cancel people out, hang you, let
1:02:57
Speaker 1: you castrate, you remove, you, cancel, no argue, put them
1:03:01
Speaker 1: in a in a moral box, and say this is problematic.
1:03:04
Speaker 1: Let's resist them. But the impulse to cancel, to me
1:03:08
Speaker 1: is borrowed from the very people we want to resist.
1:03:09
Speaker 1: This cancel culture. You're canceled, You're done. I'm just tired
1:03:12
Speaker 1: of the intolerance that young people show, especially young black people,
1:03:16
Speaker 1: and trying to cancel each other. And then somebody gonna
1:03:18
Speaker 1: cancel your black ass. You're trying to cancel somebody, Then
1:03:20
Speaker 1: you're gonna be to cancel lead, and then what's gonna happen?
1:03:23
Speaker 1: Then a great a man to steal said, cancel coach
1:03:25
Speaker 1: is real, but redemption coaches should be real as well. Well,
1:03:28
Speaker 1: it is real as well. But the cancel culture to
1:03:29
Speaker 1: me and canceled he's saying, I'm just saying to cancel.
1:03:32
Speaker 1: But first of all, you can't cancel somebody. What does
1:03:34
Speaker 1: that even mean? You can't cancel somebody? Right? You can't
1:03:37
Speaker 1: even cancel your bills. You can't even cancel the people
1:03:40
Speaker 1: living with you. What you should be saying is I
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Speaker 1: will put you in a particular situation where I hold
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Speaker 1: you accountable. I want to resist you. I think you're problematic.
1:03:47
Speaker 1: You can't even cancel Donald Trump because I think the
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Speaker 1: logic of canceling is derived from a white supremacist culture
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Speaker 1: that believes that human beings are subject to our arbitrary
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Speaker 1: will and caprice. And I think that's more deep than that.
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Speaker 1: It's deeper than that. I think that's what makes people
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Speaker 1: evolved to when you when you when you hold them accountable,
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Speaker 1: and you say, look, I'm gonna hold you accountable. I
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Speaker 1: want you to think about the things that you don't
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Speaker 1: think about the thing that you said. If that person
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Speaker 1: really cares, I think that's what growth happens, of course,
1:04:13
Speaker 1: because otherwise, look, I'll tell you what cancel culture is.
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Speaker 1: Young kids second third grade getting kicked out, life folk
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Speaker 1: canceling them every day, right, cancel, throwing them out of school.
1:04:24
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Johnny messed up, little killed you messed up, Chanique,
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Speaker 1: were messed up. But can they get some redemption? Little
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Speaker 1: little Johnny is little Sally is getting redemption. They ain't
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Speaker 1: getting canceled. They're getting sent to not even probably to delinquents,
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Speaker 1: you know, to delinquency or putting in a situation in
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Speaker 1: a classroom where they are held separate from the other
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Speaker 1: class they are being talked to, they are being putting
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Speaker 1: put in time out. Negroes believe time out means the
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Speaker 1: time I knock you out for what you did wrong
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Speaker 1: and the time you wake up that's time out. So
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Speaker 1: the reality is we've got to understand more complicated ways
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Speaker 1: and approaches, because, yeah, canceling somebody to meet borrows from
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Speaker 1: the logic the very people that we hold as enemies
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Speaker 1: or that our enemies to the process of development and evolution.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're canceling our young kids. And look at
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Speaker 1: the result of that. What do you think about, you know,
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Speaker 1: US canceling super Bowl halftime and US canceling Gucci and
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Speaker 1: Product and Mount Clary. See the super Bowl half time
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Speaker 1: to me is complicated. Let me tell you why. I
1:05:20
Speaker 1: think when jay Z refuses to go, that's huge. When
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Speaker 1: Rihanna refuses to go, that's huge. And I think they
1:05:26
Speaker 1: should stand with their principles and I stand with them. Right,
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Speaker 1: jay Z is a friend of mine. Love him, love
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Speaker 1: his consciousness, love his commitment of conscience to our cause,
1:05:36
Speaker 1: and refusing to participate was a huge statement. Travis Scott
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Speaker 1: now so much. Travis Scott doesn't do it. The next
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Speaker 1: need grow up. We'll stand in that place. Right. So
1:05:44
Speaker 1: the thing is, or people want to cancel Gladys Knight
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Speaker 1: Last Night is seventy four years old, recognize her game,
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Speaker 1: Recognize what she's meant to this culture. Midnight Train to Georgia,
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Speaker 1: Go get Farah. Jasmine Griffin's book Who Set You Flowing
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Speaker 1: to look at her examination of immigration, Native Black and
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Speaker 1: black migration narratives and how the music in part set
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Speaker 1: the terms for our own self understanding, and that The
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Speaker 1: thing is is that when when you think about canceling
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Speaker 1: Gladys Knight, she's women, even if you think she made
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Speaker 1: a mistake. I didn't agree with the statement she made
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Speaker 1: about the anthem that I didn't agree with that, but
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Speaker 1: I agree with the fact that Gladys Knight is such
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Speaker 1: a huge figure who should be seated legitimacy right TB.
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Speaker 1: I believe women to what women do we believe? What
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Speaker 1: do we believe Gladys Knight? Do we believe Canada's owns.
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Speaker 1: She's a black woman too, right. So the thing is,
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Speaker 1: we got we got to test the durability of their
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Speaker 1: truth and the insight that they bring. Gladys Knight is
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Speaker 1: a seventy four year old black woman who was fought
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Speaker 1: before some of these people were born. She got she
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Speaker 1: got the cash, She got the cash, she got the
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Speaker 1: you know, she got the rigorous testimony to what she
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Speaker 1: has been committed to. So and plus, Atlanta is a
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Speaker 1: black city with a black mayor. Right. Meek Mill was
1:06:53
Speaker 1: there that weekend talking about criminal justice reform. It's complicated.
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Speaker 1: There are multiple streams of resistance. Third good Marshal. It
1:07:00
Speaker 1: was in the courts, Martin Luther King Junior was in
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Speaker 1: the streets. What happened to the inside outside, And everybody
1:07:04
Speaker 1: can't be the point guard. Somebody got to be the forward,
1:07:06
Speaker 1: somebody got to be the center. We got to have
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Speaker 1: multiple strings unconscious. But when black people cancel I canceler
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Speaker 1: you because I disagree with your style and your route,
1:07:15
Speaker 1: I think that's problematic. It doesn't mean that they are
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Speaker 1: black people who sell us out. There are many of them.
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Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas Ben Carson, Right, we can talk about that
1:07:22
Speaker 1: but others would say, wait a minute, let's be more
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Speaker 1: cautious about saying that. But I don't believe in canceling them.
1:07:27
Speaker 1: I don't believe in eradicating them. I believe in engaging them.
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Speaker 1: If we can talk to white supremacists across the table,
1:07:33
Speaker 1: Martin Nuther King Junior sat down and negotiated, what white
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Speaker 1: supremacists you mean? We can't do the same thing for
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Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters. We have to cancel you out.
1:07:42
Speaker 1: So now you're telling me we can't disagree with each
1:07:44
Speaker 1: other while saying I hate you, I think you are
1:07:46
Speaker 1: so wrong. Look, I can disagree with you, I can
1:07:49
Speaker 1: think you're wrong, but I don't have to hate you.
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Speaker 1: I don't have to cancel you. So I think when
1:07:53
Speaker 1: we look at the Super Bowl, that was a far
1:07:55
Speaker 1: more complicated affair than we made it to be. And
1:07:58
Speaker 1: look look at what happened entered the nisin squabbles. So
1:08:02
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick my man whom I love, and Eric Reid
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Speaker 1: my man whom I love. Right, Eric Reid got into
1:08:08
Speaker 1: a fight rhetorically ideologically with Malcolm Jennings. Malcolm Jennings is
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Speaker 1: doing the work in Philadelphia. He's talking about criminal justice reform.
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Speaker 1: He's talking about cash balls, He's speaking about the ways
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Speaker 1: in which the system of justice for black people is
1:08:24
Speaker 1: fundamentally flawed, and using his resources, took one hundred million
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Speaker 1: dollars right that group of his players, fellow players from
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Speaker 1: the NFL, to say we're going to leverage this in
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Speaker 1: defense of our practices. How but that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: They feel like Malcolm sold them out. But Malcolm, this
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Speaker 1: is my point about the cancel culture about to sell
1:08:42
Speaker 1: out language. Right, Martin King Junior was called to sell out?
1:08:45
Speaker 1: Did he sell us out? Let me think? I think
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Speaker 1: he didn't. But at the time, people thought that, why
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Speaker 1: can't we do both hands? Why can't we say, Malcolm
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Speaker 1: do this, Martin do this, Fanny lew Hammer do this,
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Speaker 1: Ella Baker do this, we all do it together. How
1:08:57
Speaker 1: come you can't do something somebody else can't do something
1:08:59
Speaker 1: I can't do some Then we say, look, we're dealing
1:09:01
Speaker 1: with the same elephant as many parts of us, and
1:09:04
Speaker 1: yet we are so intolerant. Why because we are so desperate,
1:09:07
Speaker 1: we are so traumatized. Any expression has to represent all expression.
1:09:11
Speaker 1: One film, you know what you didn't do in that film?
1:09:14
Speaker 1: And neck grow it's one film, right, so I think
1:09:17
Speaker 1: that we have to have an open mindedness. We want
1:09:20
Speaker 1: to sit around on the sidelines casting stones at people
1:09:24
Speaker 1: rather than building together and doing something we think is affected.
1:09:27
Speaker 1: We got more with Michael Eric Dison where we come back,
1:09:30
Speaker 1: don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
1:09:33
Speaker 1: Your mornings will never be the same. Yep, we're back.
1:09:37
Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. DJ Envy Angela, Ye, Charlemagne the guy.
1:09:40
Speaker 1: We have Michael Eric Diyson in the building. I got
1:09:43
Speaker 1: a couple more questions yet here. What do you think
1:09:45
Speaker 1: about all the backlash that Kamala Harris's receiver. I mean,
1:09:50
Speaker 1: she was on the Greatest Show in America yesterday, a
1:09:53
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, the Breakfast Club where she broke
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Speaker 1: it down. I mean this is an example of what
1:09:58
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Kamala Harris been black from the Getty up.
1:10:01
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody course she'd been black. She was black and fine.
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Speaker 1: She was black and intelligent. She was black and showing
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Speaker 1: up doing her thing. And whether you agree with or not,
1:10:08
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with her blackness, is with her ideology.
1:10:10
Speaker 1: Maybe you disagree with the politics she has, that's fine,
1:10:13
Speaker 1: but don't question the black name, right, the same people
1:10:16
Speaker 1: that want to hold black people to account in this
1:10:19
Speaker 1: generation council culture and with the me too, which is
1:10:22
Speaker 1: extremely important. Ain't saying nothing about the passage in Michelle
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Speaker 1: Obama's book where she went a whole hog against Jeremiah
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Speaker 1: Wright in one of the most misrepresentative pieces of literature
1:10:35
Speaker 1: we've seen in the last five years. Yeah, I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't agree with that either, because it's like they
1:10:40
Speaker 1: loved Jeremiah right at one point, but when it became
1:10:43
Speaker 1: bad for business politically, they wanted to stand to the side.
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Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't like that. I'm white still doing
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Speaker 1: that in the book like y'are not selling a billion copies.
1:10:52
Speaker 1: I love Michelle Obama, right, but Michelle Obama gratuitously assaulting
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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Wright is offensive in the nth degree. But where's
1:11:01
Speaker 1: the cancel culture? Cancel Michelle? Are you gonna cancel Michelle
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Speaker 1: or a lot you're gonna cancel Michelle? Or they don't
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Speaker 1: know that that digital error don't know about Jeremiah right.
1:11:08
Speaker 1: Let's say that's my point. Something you just said don't
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Speaker 1: know and ain't and ain't trying to know and ain't
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Speaker 1: trying to ax what they don't know. This is my
1:11:16
Speaker 1: problem with digital culture. On the one hand, it's brilliant.
1:11:19
Speaker 1: It puts an entire library at your keystroke. That's the
1:11:22
Speaker 1: genius of digital culture. And no more encyclopedias. Remember we
1:11:25
Speaker 1: all have en cyclopedias at home. But see but then
1:11:27
Speaker 1: the browsing is cut off. So when you go to
1:11:29
Speaker 1: the car calog you're looking for the book. Oh, I
1:11:31
Speaker 1: was looking for Charlotte Mayne's book, but I discovered dj
1:11:34
Speaker 1: Every's book. I discovered Angela Ye's book. You know, I
1:11:37
Speaker 1: discovered something else because I was looking. And I think
1:11:40
Speaker 1: again the illusion of omni competence that the digital culture
1:11:44
Speaker 1: gives you it believed. It makes you believe because I
1:11:46
Speaker 1: can will the keystroke, I can say something Ooh, I
1:11:49
Speaker 1: said something bold, and I can cut somebody out, or
1:11:52
Speaker 1: I can I can, I can shade them. Look at
1:11:55
Speaker 1: the shades of meaning, not the shade you can give Facebook.
1:11:57
Speaker 1: I had to face the book and read it. Look
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Speaker 1: at the digital errors genius, but look at its subversion
1:12:03
Speaker 1: of tradition and apprenticeship. There is no sense of apprenticeship
1:12:08
Speaker 1: that you can't have it. Now, everybody shouldn't be famous.
1:12:11
Speaker 1: Everybody shouldn't have a platform. Everybody doesn't have the capacity
1:12:15
Speaker 1: to speak well at a particular time, and we should
1:12:18
Speaker 1: acknowledge that just because you have access to that particular
1:12:21
Speaker 1: forum doesn't mean you got something profound to say. Should
1:12:25
Speaker 1: it democratize expression so that people that you want to
1:12:28
Speaker 1: rule out have something to say? Absolutely, But you gotta
1:12:31
Speaker 1: have the bona fidays, you gotta have the chops, you
1:12:34
Speaker 1: gotta have the ability once you get in to show
1:12:36
Speaker 1: you deserve to be there. Back to your point about
1:12:38
Speaker 1: Kamala Hairs, it's ridiculous. Judge her based upon her performance,
1:12:41
Speaker 1: Judge her based upon her politics, Judge her based upon
1:12:44
Speaker 1: what she will or will not do. But to dismiss
1:12:46
Speaker 1: her is not being black enough. We've haven't been down there. Well,
1:12:49
Speaker 1: we hadn't been there and done black before. Let's figure
1:12:51
Speaker 1: out more complicated than nuanced ways to engage a figure
1:12:54
Speaker 1: like Kamala Hairs. What should the black agenda? Because a
1:12:57
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, we're not even thinking about
1:12:58
Speaker 1: voting in twenty twenty if these candidates don't have a
1:13:01
Speaker 1: black agenda, Okay, just get what you already got here, right, Look, look,
1:13:05
Speaker 1: look talking about the black left. I'm part of the
1:13:08
Speaker 1: black left. I had huge arguments with the black left
1:13:11
Speaker 1: last election. Ain't no difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump?
1:13:15
Speaker 1: How you like it? Now? Are you telling me that
1:13:18
Speaker 1: you don't think as flawed as Hillary Clinton was, as
1:13:21
Speaker 1: problematic as you thought she was? That Hillary Clinton was
1:13:24
Speaker 1: no different than Donald Trump. This is the trauma and
1:13:28
Speaker 1: problem and tragedy of so much of our politics. And
1:13:31
Speaker 1: again for younger black people getting involved, it didn't turn
1:13:34
Speaker 1: out my way. Welcome to the world. You gotta fight again.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: This ain't Jesus versus Muhammad, right. This ain't no pure
1:13:41
Speaker 1: ecstasy of divine appropriation of human form to express identities.
1:13:46
Speaker 1: These are flawed human beings who are jacked up like
1:13:49
Speaker 1: you and I are, but some less so than others,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: and some with better policies than others. We have to
1:13:54
Speaker 1: make them accountable to our interests. The black agenda should
1:13:57
Speaker 1: be what crime? Criminal justice reform is huge, The persistence
1:14:02
Speaker 1: of poverty is huge in this country. Voters suppression. Let's
1:14:06
Speaker 1: not ask Kamala Harris how black she is. Let's ask
1:14:09
Speaker 1: what policy she has to combat voters suppression in this country.
1:14:14
Speaker 1: We will never have perfect politics, but we have to
1:14:17
Speaker 1: understand the need to get involved in the game. And
1:14:19
Speaker 1: if we laid back with that same attitude. Look at
1:14:22
Speaker 1: the last election, people were putting in harambee and filling
1:14:25
Speaker 1: in the blank of something just to be voting for protests.
1:14:28
Speaker 1: This is what the right wing understands. You ain't just
1:14:30
Speaker 1: voting for Trump, You're voting for the Supreme Court. Look
1:14:34
Speaker 1: how ingenious they were. There are now probably three choices
1:14:40
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump will have to shape that court. And
1:14:43
Speaker 1: if you don't think that makes a difference in your life,
1:14:46
Speaker 1: you are sadly mistaken. This is why it's extremely important
1:14:51
Speaker 1: for young people to get involved and for us to
1:14:53
Speaker 1: continue to vote. You ain't gonna never have no perfect candidates,
1:14:56
Speaker 1: but you got to be perfectly engaged in the process.
1:14:58
Speaker 1: What did Grace Jones say? I may be perfect, but
1:15:01
Speaker 1: I'm perfect for you. That's what we gotta That's the
1:15:03
Speaker 1: attitude we have to have when it comes to voting
1:15:05
Speaker 1: in this country. Man, Well, thank you for joining us.
1:15:08
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Michael Michael, Eric Dyson, Baby, please bills
1:15:19
Speaker 1: to pay kids. Some people are uncancellable. Thank you, love
1:15:22
Speaker 1: your breakfast club, good morning wanting everybody is DJ Envy
1:15:28
Speaker 1: angela Ye, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
1:15:32
Speaker 1: It's Black History Month when we're doing five people. Today's
1:15:34
Speaker 1: Black History Month moment is courtesy at The Fresh Prince
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Speaker 1: of bel Air. It's one of the greatest scenes in
1:15:39
Speaker 1: TV history. It showed us that Will Smith could really,
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Speaker 1: really act, and if you are a deadbeat father, it
1:15:44
Speaker 1: made you want to get your act right and be
1:15:46
Speaker 1: there for your churn. This is when Will Smith's father
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Speaker 1: left him for what seems like the nineteenth time on
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Speaker 1: The Fresh Prince of bel Air. This is a Black
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Speaker 1: History Month moment. I'm sorry, you know, if there was
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Speaker 1: something that I say, you know you ain't gonna do no,
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Speaker 1: not knuckle Phil. You know, ain't like I'm still five
1:16:03
Speaker 1: years old. You know, ain't like I'm gonna be sitting
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Speaker 1: up every night asking my mom when's daddy coming home?
1:16:08
Speaker 1: You know who needs him. He wasn't there to teach
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Speaker 1: me how to shoot my first basket, but I learned
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Speaker 1: didn't and I got pretty damn but as two didn't,
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Speaker 1: Uncle Phil got through my first day without him right.
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Speaker 1: I learned how to drive, I learned how to shave,
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Speaker 1: I learned how to fight without him. I had fourteen
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Speaker 1: great birthdays without him. He never even sent me a
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Speaker 1: damn car will Now you know what, Dona, Phil, I'm
1:16:28
Speaker 1: gonna get through college without him. I'm gonna get a
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Speaker 1: great job without him. I'm gonna marry me a beautiful honey,
1:16:33
Speaker 1: and I'm having me a whole bunch of kids. I'nna
1:16:35
Speaker 1: be a better father than he ever was. And I
1:16:36
Speaker 1: sure it's held on needle for that, because they're a
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Speaker 1: damn thing he could ever teach me about how to
1:16:40
Speaker 1: love my kids. Uncome, you don't want me, man. That
1:16:45
Speaker 1: was a Black History Month moment brought to you by
1:16:48
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. There's no way you can watch that
1:16:50
Speaker 1: scene and your eyes don't water up. If you a
1:16:52
Speaker 1: full blown cry is gonna make you cry. The same
1:16:55
Speaker 1: thing when Ricky gets shot in the Backing Boys in
1:16:57
Speaker 1: the Hood, when Mufasa dies in the Lion King, and
1:17:01
Speaker 1: when Thomas j Gets stung by all those bees in
1:17:04
Speaker 1: my girls, those three things and Will Smith right there
1:17:07
Speaker 1: guaranteed to make my eyes water without question. All right, well,
1:17:10
Speaker 1: thank you for that Black History Month at the moment.
1:17:11
Speaker 1: Now when we come back, positive notice to Breakfast Club.
1:17:14
Speaker 1: Good morning, all right, cool morning, everybody is DJ Envy,
1:17:23
Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the Guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
1:17:27
Speaker 1: It's time for your positive note. Gives some positivity. Listen man,
1:17:30
Speaker 1: The positive note for the day is simple. Some people
1:17:33
Speaker 1: dream of success while others wake up and work hard
1:17:36
Speaker 1: at it. Get your earth up and go work on
1:17:38
Speaker 1: your dream to date Breakfast Club, you don't finish for y'all.
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Speaker 1: Dumb