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Darwin's Lord Mayor Kon Vatskalis wants itinerants to be banned from the city for 12 months if they break the law · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio right now is the
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  Speaker 1: Lord Mayor of Darwin, convat Scarlets. Good morning to Yukon.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, a beautiful day, and I think we're heading
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  Speaker 2: back to the Builder.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon we might be too. It's certainly a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more humid.
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  Speaker 3: Out there is nash conditions coming again.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Corn last week, we didn't get the opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: catch up with you last week, but I know that
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  Speaker 1: you would have been as disgusted.
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  Speaker 2: As the rest of it, because if we have got
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  Speaker 2: me here that week, I will be blonde, my stuck
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  Speaker 2: because I was so so pissed off towards things like
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  Speaker 2: that happening in the middle of Darwin. I've been here
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  Speaker 2: for the years, keating, I never seen anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: And we actually have a situation now, and I've been
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  Speaker 2: taught by senior police officers that these guys are so
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  Speaker 2: brazen that we'll stand up to the police.
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  Speaker 3: Now. Now, that's unacceptable.
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  Speaker 1: Now, to those of you listening who aren't sure what
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about, or if you missed the show last Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: we did obviously cover extensively the situation that unfolded in
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  Speaker 1: the CBD at the Woolworths center there the CBD with
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  Speaker 1: people with knives brandishing knives. We know that the police
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  Speaker 1: arrested one person, at least one person. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: if they's set to be more arrest made. But con
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  Speaker 1: you and I have been speaking about anti social behavior
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  Speaker 1: on this show well for years, but really a lot
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  Speaker 1: and with a real focus since the beginning of this year.
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  Speaker 1: Now do you feel as though there's been any improvement?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 2: To hear in the policeman give any review, says I
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  Speaker 2: can put the sequest tonight, but I can't guarantee there
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  Speaker 2: are going to be enough people to get out tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Hold On, we've got the highest per capitol police force
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  Speaker 2: in Australia. You've got nearly twice as many policemen as
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  Speaker 2: when I was a minister in two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't put people well, my suggestion is employ
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  Speaker 2: a private person to actually do your ROSTA. She might
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  Speaker 2: find policemeners put them out. Also, I reckon that the
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  Speaker 2: policy of setting everybody who graduates from the college down
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  Speaker 2: south first, it's wrong.
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  Speaker 3: One should be reviewed.
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  Speaker 2: Third, the Tukilometer law, bring it back quickly, and another
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  Speaker 2: one make bridge Bay of bail and offense. Again, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: it was a good experiment.
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  Speaker 3: It failed.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the Facebook, most of the video
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  Speaker 2: clips from cissydvs, the kids that are roaming around, they're
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  Speaker 2: wearing bracelets. And on top of that, the kids that
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  Speaker 2: they storm the news agency and the mall, they're wearing bracelets.
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  Speaker 3: Store they feel untouchable.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing is that we've got this issue with obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with some of our youth recidivist defenders, there's
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about that. But then we've also got an
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  Speaker 1: issue with people traveling in from community doing the wrong thing,
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  Speaker 1: and quite frankly, they're incredibly intoxicated on the streets of
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  Speaker 1: Some of the vision that we have seen in recent
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  Speaker 1: weeks has been quite horrifying to say the least. How
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  Speaker 1: do you reckon the two kilometer rules can help?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's more than that.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote a four page later the Chief Minister expressing
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  Speaker 2: what I think about the whole story. I told you
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  Speaker 2: to bring back the tukilometer lot. I told them to
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  Speaker 2: starn the BDR to address the second supply. I even
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  Speaker 2: suggested that trust push. In order you have a disocial
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  Speaker 2: behavior from a community here in Darwin, you get twelve
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  Speaker 2: months in spension.
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  Speaker 3: You can't come into Darwin or any other.
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  Speaker 2: Set of where you bridge the law unless it's medical
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  Speaker 2: reason or legalism and with an escort.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we have to address the issue.
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  Speaker 2: People come from communities that they can only drink mental
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  Speaker 2: strength beer.
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  Speaker 3: They come to Darwin.
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  Speaker 1: It's party con Why do you reckon that the government
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  Speaker 1: seems so resistant on this? So why do you feel
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  Speaker 1: like you know because the Chief Minister that essentially said
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  Speaker 1: that you know that they're not going to change this
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  Speaker 1: two kilometer rules she did say yesterday on the show
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  Speaker 1: might keep to consider it if there is any day
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  Speaker 1: are not the ones he likes well. But then of
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  Speaker 1: course the you know, with the with the band drinkers register.
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  Speaker 1: She has said that yes, she would like it to
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  Speaker 1: work better and that she'll look at that. She's also
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  Speaker 1: said that she'll look at some of the lighting issues
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  Speaker 1: that had been raised in the CBD. But con do
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  Speaker 1: you think, like, do you think that's going to be enough.
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  Speaker 3: It was four thirteen the afternoon in Woolworths.
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  Speaker 2: It was twelve o'clock mid day at the storming of
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  Speaker 2: the news agency. The more it was six o'clock in
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  Speaker 2: the afternoon in full daylight where that woman took your
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  Speaker 2: clothes off.
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  Speaker 3: Now the lighting is are furfey.
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  Speaker 2: If anybody's got a problem with lighting, the only thing
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  Speaker 2: they have to do is talk to the council and
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  Speaker 2: will address it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you have got businesses who are saying that they
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  Speaker 1: would like to see me.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to come to us and talk to us.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I actually think when it comes to those
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  Speaker 1: business owners saying it, you want to we want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that they are feeling as those things.
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  Speaker 2: Again, our light is adjustable. We adjusted in certain times.
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  Speaker 2: Now if there's something that blocks the light, like trees
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  Speaker 2: overground trees will trim them. If they want extra lights there,
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  Speaker 2: we'll put extra lights. But again, if you work at
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  Speaker 2: night in Knaki Street, you can read the book in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the street.
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  Speaker 3: It's full illuminated.
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  Speaker 1: Con You sound like you've had enough when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to this antisocial behavior.
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  Speaker 2: We're in another one hundred and twenty nine nine nine
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  Speaker 2: nine people in dow and had enough.
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  Speaker 1: What's the next steps? From your perspective as the mayor,
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  Speaker 1: what is the next steps here? Because you know you're
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  Speaker 1: you are really re is writing what a lot of
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  Speaker 1: is a feeling at the moment that we've had enough.
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  Speaker 2: People try to pass the back to the council. Now,
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  Speaker 2: council's got an outreach program. I've got two officers every
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  Speaker 2: day go at six o'clock in the morning, told to
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  Speaker 2: all the rough slippers, referred to services if there's a problem,
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  Speaker 2: to to the police. I've got rages that go out.
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  Speaker 2: Ragis have got limited powers. They're not policemen, they're rangers. However,
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  Speaker 2: they work very close with the police, passing information to
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  Speaker 2: the police. We pay four hundred thousand dollars a year
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  Speaker 2: for the CBD patrol. We talked to the Latakia people.
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  Speaker 2: We do everything. We've got the TV cameras, all of
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  Speaker 2: them gifted to the police. So we have done a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things regarding crime and a dissociate behavior.
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  Speaker 1: TV cameras are enough or do you think we actually need?
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  Speaker 1: And you've said up.
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  Speaker 3: Before, question the police. Are they enough policemen monitoring the cameras?
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  Speaker 3: Not the number of cameras. How many police officers more
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  Speaker 3: to the cameras. That's a question.
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  Speaker 2: You can have two thousand cameras, but if you've got
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  Speaker 2: only two policemen monitoring, it's a.
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  Speaker 3: Waste of time.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I guess it's a hard one in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the police trying to juggle everything and all
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  Speaker 1: of the issues that they've got across the board. It
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  Speaker 1: is tough, but you know, fundamentally, right now, people don't
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  Speaker 1: feel safe.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean community policing. It's been at the corner
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  Speaker 2: store of safe communities. I've been told that one by
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  Speaker 2: commissioners after commissioners, after commissioners in my political life.
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  Speaker 3: Where's the community policing now? Why it's not there?
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  Speaker 2: Look, I know task force, I know we've got problem
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  Speaker 2: with domestic violence, but we've.
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  Speaker 3: Got problems on the streets now.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to know why the achievements that will
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  Speaker 2: not repeated to kilometer law, what's justification behind it? I
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  Speaker 2: would like to know why did that make bits of
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  Speaker 2: bailing offense again when so many bail bailed people continue offending, unpunished, untouchable.
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  Speaker 3: Now people had enough. What we have to do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they've do and what my worst
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  Speaker 2: fear is somebody would do something stupid and then everybody
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  Speaker 2: would throw their hands in the airs.
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  Speaker 3: Oh terrible, Well, action reaction. You have to be careful
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  Speaker 3: what you wish for.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you have to remember
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  Speaker 2: in our legislation, you're allowed to use rhythmal force.
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  Speaker 3: What I don't want to see people search the force.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, unreasonable, That's exactly right, and we don't want to
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  Speaker 1: wind up in that situation. I think all any of
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  Speaker 1: us want to see is this issue dealt with and
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  Speaker 1: you know, broking record.
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  Speaker 2: But this is exactly what I hear all the time
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  Speaker 2: from people in the city. People are not feeling safe.
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  Speaker 2: People had enough for drunks through the street. People had
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  Speaker 2: enough with people coming in our parks and they can't
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  Speaker 2: use them. People had enough down in Bandila having tribes fighting.
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  Speaker 2: People had enough having this kind of behavior inside.
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  Speaker 1: The city corn There's plenty of other things on the
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  Speaker 1: agenda that I do want to ask you about this morning,
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  Speaker 1: and one of those is the waters Ward by election.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that there is going to be an information session,
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  Speaker 1: or there was yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: We had one yesterday. One person turned up. That's it.
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  Speaker 2: So are you all right that it's on the twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven August. You've got the opportunity to somebody to represent you. Now,
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  Speaker 2: don't come later complaining about nothing happens when you don't
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  Speaker 2: bother neither to nominate or to vote. Because you've got
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  Speaker 2: the chance at the end of the day, the person
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  Speaker 2: you're going to put select and elect, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be your voice in counsole. If you want your footpaths fixed,
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  Speaker 2: if you want the podcosts fixed, if you want your
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  Speaker 2: parts worded, you can actually do it yourself, but will
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  Speaker 2: be better to actually have somebody there to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that it's followed from A to Z. And it only
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  Speaker 2: takes very little bit of your time, but at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, you contribute something to our city. If you
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  Speaker 2: want to nominate on the fifth of August, nominations open
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  Speaker 2: and I think this on Friday and close on the
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  Speaker 2: eleventh of August, with a by election on the twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven of August.
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  Speaker 1: Now, con I dig an email through the week from
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  Speaker 1: one of our listeners about the busy foot path in
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  Speaker 1: Bayview where at the moment it's not safe to walk.
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  Speaker 1: There is work which is happening at the moment, but
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  Speaker 1: apparently well there's actually no work happening at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: It seems as though they're waiting for light bulbs. What's
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  Speaker 1: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if the footpath is not safe to work at night,
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  Speaker 2: we will close it down.
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  Speaker 3: Now. The problem with like everybody. Every other business is down.
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  Speaker 2: We've got problem with supply of goods and services.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody complaining.
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  Speaker 2: You had the speaking before about not having enough people
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  Speaker 2: to actually address the issues in hotels. I've got the
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  Speaker 2: same issue with people actually not to not finding enough
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  Speaker 2: people to work, or when we order something, because usually
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  Speaker 2: it has to come from down South, it will take
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  Speaker 2: a month or a month a half.
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  Speaker 1: Well, look, I know that that the person who's spend
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  Speaker 1: in contact lives in Bayview and is out there exercising
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  Speaker 1: all the time and wants to know why can't the
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  Speaker 1: footpaths still be worked on while you're waiting for the
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  Speaker 1: light fittings or whatever you want.
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  Speaker 3: I'll find out, Kate and come back to you.
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  Speaker 2: However, if they use a click and fix application we've got,
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  Speaker 2: they can actually get straight to the council and they
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  Speaker 2: will get a reply.
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  Speaker 3: But I will find out about it and come back
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  Speaker 3: to your next program.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know it's something that we've spoken about before,
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  Speaker 1: and it is obviously an area where there's lots of
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  Speaker 1: people working walking i should say exercising, and yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: there's that there is actually a huge concrete light blocks
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  Speaker 1: someone's bound to trip up, and that it's actually a
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  Speaker 1: bit dangerous how it is.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I accept that one, but as I do before,
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  Speaker 2: we can do things, but we can't do miracles. But
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  Speaker 2: certainly we'll find out why it is a problem and
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  Speaker 2: we'll come back to you in that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Now, before I let you go saying this month,
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  Speaker 1: what is the council doing for saying this month?
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  Speaker 2: Did you go on Saturday to the seniors export? It
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  Speaker 2: was magnificent, It was really good, so many people, absolutely amazing.
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  Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of things to do with seniors.
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  Speaker 2: We've got computer education classes, grandparents and grandchildren, morning tea,
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  Speaker 2: drumming workshop, walking through Darwin's bidding and Dreamcatches workshop and
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  Speaker 2: line dancing.
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  Speaker 3: All of that presented by the City of Darwin.
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  Speaker 2: You only got to have to go on our website
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  Speaker 2: and you find out time place location were supporting our seniors.
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  Speaker 2: I have to say that I'm so pleased we've got
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  Speaker 2: so many grandparents in Darwin because when of us came here,
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  Speaker 2: it was very rarely you see somebody retiring in Darwin.
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  Speaker 2: But now it becomes the place of preference. I can understand.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to put to pay hitting bills down
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  Speaker 2: south which is a really good plus it is.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Look, we are going to be catching up with
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  Speaker 1: Sushira from Kosha, the Council.
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  Speaker 3: Of the Item. Sure you've done tremendous job, yea, the
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  Speaker 3: Seniors expert.
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  Speaker 1: We will catch up with her a bit after ten
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  Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. Now I am just hearing news as well,
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  Speaker 1: and i'll certainly get onto this seat. Well that the
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  Speaker 1: Voluntary Assisted Dying Bill did pass through parliament as I
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  Speaker 1: understand at the Federal Parliament ninety nine to thirty seven,
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  Speaker 1: according to Luke Gorsling. So we'll see what we can
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  Speaker 1: find out.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent, and that's not about it to die. It's the
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  Speaker 2: right of territory partner to do it. Our legislation not
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  Speaker 2: only for that but for other things. So we don't
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  Speaker 2: have somebody who lives in Canberra or in Sydney or
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne tell us how to live our life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think is fair enough that we get
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  Speaker 1: to make that decision for ourselves. But I'll get onto that,
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  Speaker 1: find out exactly what the go is go to Senate. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that could be back be the where we hit a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a roade block. Convat Scarl's good to catch
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  Speaker 1: up with you this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you Winging.
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  Speaker 2: It's all right.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're all.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty fired up about the anti social behavior, so people
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  Speaker 1: just want to see some change. They want to see
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  Speaker 1: it fixed, you know, Coln, thank you as always