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Rugby Direct - Episode 202 · Rugby Direct

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  Speaker 2: Welcome into Rugby Direct powered by habit hel Physio. Book
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  Speaker 2: today and stay in the game Rugby Direct Direct. Back
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  Speaker 2: for our midweek podcast Elliott Smith and with me. Liam
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  Speaker 2: Napier has been summed out through injury. Well, hopefully touch
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  Speaker 2: base with Liam later next week. And then is Nick Bewley,
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  Speaker 2: our Crusader's commentator to join us this week? Bills, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for giving up some of your time and joining us
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  Speaker 2: on Rugby Direct.
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  Speaker 3: Ellie.
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  Speaker 4: Always a pleasure and it goes to show, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 4: Row to and Super Rugby Pacific. It's already taking a
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  Speaker 4: toll on players and broadcasters.
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  Speaker 2: And journalists, so my thoughts to Liam. Hopefully recovers absolutely
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  Speaker 2: let's ripen to it. Dalton Papalletti announcing a couple of
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  Speaker 2: days ago now that he is leaving New Zealand rugby
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  Speaker 2: after the season. He only played one test last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's played nine on forty tests for the All Blacks
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  Speaker 2: but decided that he is out heading to Castra Olympeak
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  Speaker 2: in France. Did this catch you by surprise, nekor did
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  Speaker 2: that perhaps the interview gave with TVNZ the week before
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  Speaker 2: signal that he might be on the way out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I suppose, without knowing the full extent of the
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  Speaker 4: details and the timeline, part of me thought Dalton would
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  Speaker 4: be one of those players who was clearly out of
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  Speaker 4: favor under Scott Robertson that might stick around and at
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  Speaker 4: least wait to see who the next All Blacks coaches
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  Speaker 4: and push towards the twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cup
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  Speaker 4: in terms of getting a flight over to Australia. So look,
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  Speaker 4: this deal may have been done for all we know,
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  Speaker 4: you know over the Christmas New Year period. I just
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  Speaker 4: think I do wonder whether he has perhaps a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of regret around the time, and given he spoke
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  Speaker 4: so highly of his experience and the All Blacks fifteen
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  Speaker 4: at the back end of last year with Jamie Joseph
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  Speaker 4: who was the coach of that All Blacks fifteen team,
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  Speaker 4: who is now one of only two realistic contenders to
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  Speaker 4: replace Scott Robertson in the top All Blacks jobs. So
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  Speaker 4: curious timing to say the least. But here's a guy
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  Speaker 4: who's given plenty to the Blues in particular and New
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  Speaker 4: Zealand rugby, and you current begrudge a player at this
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  Speaker 4: point of his career looking at the riches of France.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't blame him either. I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: play going before his time, though I think he had
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  Speaker 2: more to give the All Blacks Jersey. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: he had a great Super rugby year last year, but
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  Speaker 2: he's always delivered. I felt on the international stage in
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  Speaker 2: the kind of open so flanket that I think maybe
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  Speaker 2: the All Blacks have been searching for in terms of
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  Speaker 2: luck basement for Sam Kine. Obviously, DSRVs lotted in at
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  Speaker 2: seven most of the time last year, but in terms
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  Speaker 2: of that that similarity is Sam Kaine. I think Golden
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  Speaker 2: Papaletti had it. But he made his point clear that
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  Speaker 2: he probably didn't gel with the All Blacks coaching staff
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  Speaker 2: last year, didn't know that they'd be on the art obviously,
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  Speaker 2: and when he didn't get selected for the end of
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  Speaker 2: year tour last year, he had a clause in his
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  Speaker 2: contract that meant he could head abroad. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a lost in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 4: Rag.
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  Speaker 2: We certainly lost for the Blues as they go forward,
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  Speaker 2: and look, I think you know he'll be He can
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  Speaker 2: console himself if he's at any point disappointed or second
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  Speaker 2: thinks the decision, he can go. Look, I'm probably getting
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good payday out of out of it all.
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  Speaker 2: Another news item in the last couple of days bulls
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  Speaker 2: the AB's coaching timeline. This is from a colleague Liam,
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  Speaker 2: of course, who said that it's probably still three weeks away.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you ought exactly the same in box Facebook
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  Speaker 2: messenger chats. Everything's blowing up with all sorts of theories.
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  Speaker 2: McCaul is apparently in as an assistant coach. We've got
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  Speaker 2: Hanson coming back. I think they're going to get Fred
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  Speaker 2: Allen back in at some point too. So are you
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  Speaker 2: surprised that it's taking perhaps this longer? Do you like
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  Speaker 2: the way that they're going about doing their due diligence?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Look, outside of people asking me about who the Sam
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  Speaker 4: Ruth kids, that has been the question I've been put to,
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  Speaker 4: or put the most too, over the last six or
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  Speaker 4: so weeks.
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  Speaker 3: What is going on with this all? Blacks coaching situation.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, and.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to add to the fuel by rumor
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  Speaker 4: or scuttle. But here, however, based on Liam's report, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't dismiss his reporting whatsoever, I'm not surprised to
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  Speaker 4: hear that, you know, Interim CEO Steve Lancaster and former
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  Speaker 4: All Black Dame Coles, who are on this panel, this
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  Speaker 4: appointment panel, have gone to observe Jamie Joseph in his
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  Speaker 4: environment at the Highlanders and then now heading to Japan
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  Speaker 4: to do the same at Kobe with Dave Renni. Although
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  Speaker 4: I do find that a little bit, I wonder what
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  Speaker 4: sort of what they're actually going to see. I feel
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  Speaker 4: like if my boss was coming down here to the
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  Speaker 4: christ Church offers to observe how I was looking ahead
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  Speaker 4: of a potential promotion, I'd probably act on my best behavior.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe not, you know, compared to what I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: week and week out. Alas, I'm not surprised by the
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  Speaker 4: timeline I was. I was pretty shocked to hear that
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden it sounded like an appointment could
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  Speaker 4: be made last week, earlier this week. I think, you
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  Speaker 4: know New Zealand Rugby that there is no real rush
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  Speaker 4: in the sense of July as the first Test match.
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  Speaker 4: I know there's been discussion around it being a potential distraction.
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  Speaker 4: Well the Highlanders dismissed any notion of that by dispatching
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  Speaker 4: the Crusaders last week, and I did hear and read
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  Speaker 4: that Kobe had to win in the Japanese competition. So look,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sort of pleased they're doing their due diligence and
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  Speaker 4: taking their time because they ought to. It's it's the
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  Speaker 4: top job in New Zealand rugby.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. It's an important decision. They didn't get it
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  Speaker 2: clearly right last time. By what transpires, they need to
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  Speaker 2: get it right for the run to the Rugby World Cup.
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  Speaker 2: And you're right, there is no real rush because if
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  Speaker 2: they do appoint Dave Rennie, look he's contracted through until
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  Speaker 2: May June with his Japanese club, and no amount of
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand dollars is going to attempt Kobe to release
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  Speaker 2: him early. You know, if Jammie Joseph were to be
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  Speaker 2: appointed the job, they could maybe get him out of
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  Speaker 2: the Highlanders. But I think you know, he said obviously
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  Speaker 2: got to have a coach in the next couple of months,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think there's any point rushing into a decision,
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  Speaker 2: And when they made the decision on January sixteenth, I
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  Speaker 2: think it was to part ways with Scott robertson two
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  Speaker 2: months or thereabouts felt about rights. In terms of announcement,
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably about where we'll land with this
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  Speaker 2: All Blacks coaching job. Bill's News from your way. As
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  Speaker 2: we get into the Super rgby teams, lesterfying Onnoku, would
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  Speaker 2: you say dropped to the bench for this game against
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  Speaker 2: the Brumbies on Sunday afternoon? He had a Barry Crocker
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  Speaker 2: on the opening ground against the Highlanders. Not great defensively
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  Speaker 2: dropped A lot of ball would be classified as being dropped.
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what it is, certainly bingch and look,
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  Speaker 4: they had to get Will Jordan back there obviously after
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  Speaker 4: not starting last week. They've got huge raps on shay
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  Speaker 4: Fie Harkey on the wedding in terms of what he
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  Speaker 4: can offer, particularly defensively and under the high ball.
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  Speaker 3: They've got Sebby Reese.
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  Speaker 4: My understanding during the bulk of pre season is that
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  Speaker 4: Lester Fying Nuku trained primarily at center, so for me,
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  Speaker 4: it was more a discussion around whether it will be
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  Speaker 4: Lester fying Anoku or Brighton in or outside the skipper
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  Speaker 4: David Harvey in the midfield. But look, it's been a
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  Speaker 4: fascinating one for us down here because Lester fying Noku openly,
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  Speaker 4: in fact, I sat next to him while he put
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  Speaker 4: this on the record, declared himself that he wants to
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  Speaker 4: showcase his versatility. He wants to have a familiar a
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  Speaker 4: similar role sorry to what he had at Tulin in
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  Speaker 4: terms of being a hybrid player where it's start games
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  Speaker 4: in the midfield and finish them in the as a flanker.
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  Speaker 4: It seems to me, having spoken of Rob Penny and
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  Speaker 4: got comments from him on the record on Tuesday of
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  Speaker 4: this week, that they're keen to sort of get back
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  Speaker 4: to basics with Lester Fyingnook. You get, you know, declutter
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  Speaker 4: the mind of the potential of playing as many as
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  Speaker 4: three different positions across eighty minutes of rugby and just
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  Speaker 4: get back to being the athlete we know he can be.
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  Speaker 4: So it'll be fascinating actually to see where he comes on.
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  Speaker 4: I suspect it'll be in the midfield, but based on
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  Speaker 4: his performance last week drawn a line in the sand
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  Speaker 4: here really to say you just can't drop that many balls,
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  Speaker 4: You can't have those defensive reads that allowed for that
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  Speaker 4: first Highlands try to Caleb Tonguey tell and I don't
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  Speaker 4: mind it. I do worry, though there was a lot
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  Speaker 4: of excitement about being a hybrid player, we may never
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  Speaker 4: see this before it even got off the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's right. I mean you don't think you'll see
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  Speaker 2: him trotting at number eight in the second half against
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  Speaker 2: the Brumbies and the christ which sun on Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say no. And look, look they've got
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  Speaker 3: Corey Callo there.
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  Speaker 4: They've got plenty of depth in the loocifle trands, not
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  Speaker 4: as if they need to. And I think it's always
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  Speaker 4: just going to be based on the sea situation of
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  Speaker 4: a game. But I think to get the best out
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  Speaker 4: of lessa finding who's particularly early on he hasn't been
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  Speaker 4: in a crusader's environments is twenty twenty three, they should
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  Speaker 4: just primarily focus on home being the best center or
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  Speaker 4: the best winger, if that's what they decide is his
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  Speaker 4: best position. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Not too many other surprises from the Super Rugby team
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  Speaker 2: Namings Wednesday. We saw the Blues make a few changes
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  Speaker 2: to their pack, none to the back line. Chiefs bring
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of all wax Leroy Carter, Simon Parker
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  Speaker 2: and Moni Nadawa come back in to their side to
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  Speaker 2: head south to the Highlanders who have made just the
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  Speaker 2: one change with Ethan the group coming back into the
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  Speaker 2: starting side. The Hurricanes. We'll have Royguard and Billy Procter
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  Speaker 2: coming off the bench. There's I think seven debutants, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: ten debutants. I think it might be across the two
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  Speaker 2: fifteens or two twenty threes rather from that, Hurricanes more
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  Speaker 2: in a Pacific game, but not too many other surprises
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  Speaker 2: from those respective sides, so probably a good chance you'll
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  Speaker 2: to run through the weekend. And you've been handed Liam
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  Speaker 2: Napiers tipping pen for the week. He got two of five.
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  Speaker 2: I got one of five in the opening round. So
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't the greatest in all honesty.
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  Speaker 3: And what was your one? Sorry?
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  Speaker 2: My one was the Chiefs beating the Blues. His two
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  Speaker 2: were the Moratars in the Brumbies. I picked, we both
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  Speaker 2: picked the Crusaders. I picked the Reds, we both picked
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  Speaker 2: the drawer and I picked the Force. So yeah, tough
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  Speaker 2: fold start to the tipping comp for both of us
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  Speaker 2: in all honesty, so let's rip in to it. Hurricanes,
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  Speaker 2: More one of pacifica gold sport, iHeartRadio seven O five
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  Speaker 2: Friday Night More one with a good win in Fiji?
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  Speaker 2: Can they back it up at sky Stadium Bules.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, look, it's not out of the realms of possibility,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, I know how much teams, how difficult
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  Speaker 4: it is for teams coming back from Lao Toka, and
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  Speaker 4: that's just evident based on Tana among his team sheet
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  Speaker 4: here where he's made twenty two of a possible twenty
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  Speaker 4: three changes. I think miracle fire Lung he's the only
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  Speaker 4: survivor after his hat trick and he's been moved back
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  Speaker 4: to the bench. While the Hurricanes, you know, it's effectively
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  Speaker 4: a one week longer pre season. They've got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of class on this team sheet. Jordy Barrett. Of course
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  Speaker 4: back from Leinster firepower off the bench as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: in the form of cameroy guards. So I can't go
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  Speaker 4: past the cane training and particularly given I'm here covering
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  Speaker 4: for Liam, I'm going to look after my own welfare.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say the Super Round might be,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a tough round for you if indeed you
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  Speaker 2: were to tip against the Hurricanes when Liam heads it
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  Speaker 2: down for that a bit later in the year. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe just stick to the stick to the games, which
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  Speaker 2: is exactly what I'm going to do. War Tars Fiji
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  Speaker 2: and drew a good start from the war Tars last week.
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  Speaker 2: I was really impressed by the way they kicked home
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  Speaker 2: in the last twenty minutes against the Reds. I can't
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  Speaker 2: see the drawer getting close on Friday.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very encouraging signs from the war Atars. And it's
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  Speaker 4: about time too, you know again, you look at that
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  Speaker 4: the class on paper and it's about time that they
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  Speaker 4: are really contender and super Rugby Pacific. We saw last
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  Speaker 4: year the drewer terrible on the road and until there's
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  Speaker 4: evidence to suggest otherwise, I think that could continue.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, Chipson for the task.
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  Speaker 2: Highlander's Chief Saturday Night, seven oh five. Paul Allison, Brendan
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  Speaker 2: Laney calling this one on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio. Interesting game,
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs obviously winning in round one. They weren't entirely convincing,
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  Speaker 2: but still got the job done. Their favorites for the
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  Speaker 2: title Highlanders get too home games at back to back
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  Speaker 2: to start the season. What say you, where do you
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  Speaker 2: see this one going?
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is a tough one a call, and
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  Speaker 4: perhaps I wouldn't say that a week ago, but kudos
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  Speaker 4: to the Highlanders and you know, you look at them
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  Speaker 4: without Fabian Holland and Dylan played here and then there's
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  Speaker 4: a few question marks here in terms of how well
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  Speaker 4: they can contend. We did see last year that they
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  Speaker 4: started the season, whether real, hissin orw I think they
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  Speaker 4: won two of their first three before the wheels completely
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  Speaker 4: came off. So I'm going to go with the outside
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  Speaker 4: the home team. I'm going to say they keep on
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  Speaker 4: keeping on. Joan and Ariki's fiftieth game, I thought he
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  Speaker 4: was super impressive, and in combination with Jacob Ruttamatavuki Niekins
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  Speaker 4: and Caleb tonguingtown the back three, I really like Lucas
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  Speaker 4: Casey at number eight. Yeah, I didn't see enough from
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  Speaker 4: the Chiefs to convince that they're hitting their straps at
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  Speaker 4: this point of the season, so I think they're a
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  Speaker 4: little bit vulnerable. If you're ever going to beat the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's now.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big call. I'm going to go the Chiefs. Look,
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  Speaker 2: but I can see the case for the Highlanders and boy,
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  Speaker 2: if they win two from two, the drums are just
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  Speaker 2: going to beat there a little bit louder, aren't they
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  Speaker 2: fit for Jammie Joseph to be the All Blacks head coach.
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  Speaker 2: Force in Blues nine thirty five on Saturday night and
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  Speaker 2: jundle up in Western Australia, which I think is about
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  Speaker 2: twenty k's outside of Perth. The usual stadiums being used
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  Speaker 2: for the Women's Asia Cup, so they're basically playing on
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  Speaker 2: this sort of suburban ground on Saturday night. But the
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  Speaker 2: Force were pretty disappointing last week. The Blues were in
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  Speaker 2: great but I fancy the Blues to get the job
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  Speaker 2: done in Perth. What about you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, similar with me. I've got some concerns regarding the
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  Speaker 4: this year. I'd like to be corrected, but I think
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  Speaker 4: they stand to be one of the sort of easier
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  Speaker 4: beats weekend week out. So look, I think the Blues
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  Speaker 4: they'll be disappointed. They were clunky, So we're many teams
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  Speaker 4: last week, but I think were the week under their belts. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: it is a tough road trip to get all the
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  Speaker 4: way out to suburban Western Australia. But I think there's
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  Speaker 4: enough class there that they should click in together and
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  Speaker 4: get their first win of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And the game you'll be calling Saturday, sorry, Sunday afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: three thirty five Crusaders and Brumbies. The TB's got the
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  Speaker 2: Brumbies as rank outside is at three forty to the
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  Speaker 2: Crusaders one thirty. The Crusaders, you know, were clunky last
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  Speaker 2: week and then they had the bench come on, looked
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  Speaker 2: a little bit better, but the Brumbies rolled over the
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  Speaker 2: top of a pretty poor forced team. This is a
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  Speaker 2: fascinating game. Look, I think the Crusaders should win. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna tip them, but you know, the Brumbies coming to
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  Speaker 2: christ Jitch and getting up seat wouldn't necessarily be out
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  Speaker 2: of the realms of possibility. Although I did note last
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  Speaker 2: night and this stumby that the Brumbies have them won
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  Speaker 2: in christ Jurge since the year two thousand, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: Is that right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I did get some information through that they've never
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  Speaker 4: won at Apollo Projects Stadium out in Addington. This is
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  Speaker 4: the third to last game the Crusaders will host the
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  Speaker 4: Highlanders and the Drawer here before moving into their shiny
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  Speaker 4: new indoor arena in Central Town. But yeah, as you
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  Speaker 4: read out those odds there, Elliot, it must have been
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking gamble responsibly.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a bit, there's a bit of value there.
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  Speaker 4: I think this Brumbies team again, like I know, it's
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  Speaker 4: the four, so how much do you read into piling
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  Speaker 4: on fifty six points in the sun. But Charlie Klee
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  Speaker 4: in the back roll and the way their back line
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  Speaker 4: was humming. It's an afternoon game and the weather whether
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  Speaker 4: it does look good for Sunday afternoon, I think the
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  Speaker 4: Brumbies are in with the real sniff. I am going
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  Speaker 4: to tip the Crusaders just in terms of history and
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: bounce back from a disappointing showing last week.
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  Speaker 3: They get Fletcher Mule back as well as a starter.
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  Speaker 4: They have to Mighty Williams off the bench as well
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  Speaker 4: as will Jordan's starting. So they usually put away Australian
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  Speaker 4: teams at home. But I'm like you, I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: shocked if we're sitting here Monday and the Crusader's roun two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's much closer game than friends at
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  Speaker 2: the tab. Looking at a couple more things before we
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  Speaker 2: go the tipping comp. Of course, you can join us
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  Speaker 2: on Rugby Direct podcast, just search it there on the website,
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  Speaker 2: which is play Fantasy Rugby dot com. How did you
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  Speaker 2: go first week in the fantasy bills?
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  Speaker 4: Well, speaking of Charlie Calee, I see he was the
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  Speaker 4: highest scoring player of the lot in round one, I
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  Speaker 4: did not have Charlie cale and Bewley's battlers, which really
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  Speaker 4: set me on the back foot. I put my faith
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  Speaker 4: and Lester fining Anooko as my captain, and, like many
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  Speaker 4: across the codes, play but a nral fantasy and the like.
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  Speaker 4: The pressure, the weight of expectation to be a captain
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  Speaker 4: and my fantasy teams is obviously too much for mere mortals.
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  Speaker 4: And as you outlined earlier, Elliott to Lesta had a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a shocker and is now finding himself on
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  Speaker 4: the bench.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I'm.
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  Speaker 4: About sixty seventh of your ninety odd teams in the
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  Speaker 4: Rugby Direct Fantasy comp.
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  Speaker 3: But it is round one. I'll keep chpping away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm aout same sixty two out of one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and three. If you want to join us, please do
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  Speaker 2: on at Rugby Direct podcast, searching on the Fantasy website
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  Speaker 2: and we are going to dig into the mailbag every
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  Speaker 2: Thursday on Rugby Direct. Rugby Direct at inz dot co
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  Speaker 2: dot nz. Producer Mark has dug through the mail bag.
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  Speaker 2: Got time for one this week. This is an interesting
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  Speaker 2: one actually from Steve. What was the point of Super
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  Speaker 2: Rugby coming out and saying the two po vi try
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  Speaker 2: should not have been awarded It was in the thirty
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  Speaker 2: first minute of the game. I understand if it was
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  Speaker 2: the last player of the game, but still plenty of
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  Speaker 2: footy to be played. That's from Steve and the King
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  Speaker 2: Country Love the pod guys, cheap smart. Thanks Steve for
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  Speaker 2: your email. I'll throw this to you. Are you first buels?
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  Speaker 2: We're Super Rugby right to come out and say that
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  Speaker 2: tri shouldn't have been given the green light from Ben
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  Speaker 2: O'Keeffe on the.
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  Speaker 4: Night, I actually didn't mind the transparency, to be totally honest.
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  Speaker 4: I think there is an element of gray with this
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  Speaker 4: rule and cast my mind back to the British and
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  Speaker 4: Irish Lions series last year. In fact, there was an
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  Speaker 4: incident in the Six Nations Ireland game at the weekend
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  Speaker 4: against Italy. I think it might have been Dan Sheen
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  Speaker 4: again diving with the ball where it just seems like referees.
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  Speaker 4: It's a little bit open for interpretation where the rule
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  Speaker 4: has been in place of the law. Sorry, it has
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  Speaker 4: been in place for some time now in terms you
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  Speaker 4: can't dive, you know, into into a tackle or over
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  Speaker 4: an attempted tackle. So I think it's more a case
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  Speaker 4: of giving this publicity because of the nature of the law,
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  Speaker 4: as opposed to we got this wrong, we got this right.
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  Speaker 4: I cast my one back to the Crusaders Highlanders game,
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  Speaker 4: and I know there was a couple of decisions there
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  Speaker 4: that Crusaders weren't particularly happy with, but they didn't feel
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  Speaker 4: like it needed a full blind forensic investigation and public
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  Speaker 4: you know outcry over either. So personally I don't mind it,
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  Speaker 4: particularly if we're now going to have more consistency for
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  Speaker 4: a law that for me anyway, seems reasonably clear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does seem pretty clear. On the night I
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  Speaker 2: had a question mark over it. We talked about it
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  Speaker 2: in the commentary box, but it wasn't beside a ruck,
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  Speaker 2: so I thought that legally you could be able to
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  Speaker 2: do it. But having seen the footage up closed and
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: replayed since then, you can see the Blues defenders I
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: think one of them is Bradley Slater and I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember who the other one is, but they're clearly duck
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  Speaker 2: and low and TUBOVII is going over the top to
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  Speaker 2: evade a tackle. I think that's the nature of how
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  Speaker 2: close in defenders are. They're taught to go low, close
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  Speaker 2: to the line. I saw them coming. I leaped over
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  Speaker 2: the top, clear breach of the rules. But I suspect
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  Speaker 2: that they may need to clarify a few things just
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  Speaker 2: around you know, when you can be taken in the year,
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  Speaker 2: and various things, because there's been a few instants in
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: recent times of defenders jumping over the top try as given,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and defenders don't seem to know exactly when they're allowed
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  Speaker 2: to make tackles in the year, if they're allowed to
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  Speaker 2: make tackles in the year when players are in flight.
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  Speaker 2: So I think we'll Rugby needs to come out and clarify.
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  Speaker 2: But having seen the footage back subsequently, I think they
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: made the right call. And look, I don't mind them
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: coming out and saying that it was interesting to hear
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: from the Blues who basically were a bit frustrated by
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  Speaker 2: the decision and raise the alarm on Saturday night, But also,
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  Speaker 2: you know, applauding the transparency even though they don't get
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  Speaker 2: five points back, and you know they had plenty of
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  Speaker 2: time in that game to cancel out that Chiefs try
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  Speaker 2: and they weren't good enough to do so, so five
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  Speaker 2: points gone. But Vincotta made a point as well of
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: saying the postmatch that sometimes you've actually in this competition,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: got to be happy with taking one point away from
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the game. Sometimes that actually is a not bad return.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But having said that, they'll want a few more as
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  Speaker 2: they head to Perth on Saturday night. Nick Bully, thank
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  Speaker 2: you very much for your time on Rugby Direct. Look
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: forward to catching up on Monday after another big weekend
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: of Super Rugby. Some more Six Nations as well. Call
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: well on Sunday afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate that Elliott, cheers mate.
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