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Bristowe's Bros · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Wow oh wow, it's another week
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  Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast and I am lucky enough
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  Speaker 1: to be talking with my wonderful co host Ashley. I
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  Speaker 1: con Eddie, Hi, Ben, Hey, Ashley, how are you? I
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  Speaker 1: am lucky and blessed to be talking to my co
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  Speaker 1: host Ben Higgins. I uh, this week is a big
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  Speaker 1: week for us. We have a lot of really exciting
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  Speaker 1: things to talk about, and so we just need to
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  Speaker 1: dive into it right away. First off, Ashley, I know
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  Speaker 1: you and I are both thrilled with this idea because
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  Speaker 1: we had just kind of gotten in the rhythm of
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  Speaker 1: being able to meet the people who have listened to
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  Speaker 1: this podcast for years in person, and then obviously with
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  Speaker 1: the shutdown, we haven't been able to continue that rhythm,
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  Speaker 1: and so we found a way to make it work.
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  Speaker 1: So here here's the deal. We announced it last week,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk about again this week. We have the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous Live Yes Live podcast coming to you June four
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  Speaker 1: to five pm Pacific time. Ashley tell everybody about it.
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  Speaker 1: So you guys, it's basically like a cocktail party before
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  Speaker 1: you get to watch Ben season re air on ABC
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  Speaker 1: for a nine. Ben's gonna need some drinks to He'll
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  Speaker 1: be having his whiskey during this UM Live digital podcast.
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  Speaker 1: So for nine dollars you can join us. Um jas
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  Speaker 1: will be on a couple of the girls from Ben season,
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  Speaker 1: and Mike Johnson, who is appearing on our podcast today,
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  Speaker 1: will also be back next week and UM you know, ladies,
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  Speaker 1: we might be doing something like a special meet and
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  Speaker 1: greet with him and with us. So if you if
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  Speaker 1: you pay a little lecture, you might have a personal
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  Speaker 1: meet and greet with Mike Johnson. And who knows what
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  Speaker 1: can happen in a little alone time, that's right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so for a little extra money, so the nine dollars
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  Speaker 1: get you into live podcast, then the meet and greet
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  Speaker 1: will be a little extra more. But I tell you what,
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be worth it because Mike Johnson is gonna
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  Speaker 1: have a lot to talk about. He's never been one
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  Speaker 1: to shy away from saying how he feels, which he'll
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  Speaker 1: be on the podcast, uh here in just a bit
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  Speaker 1: today to talk about everything going on in Bachelor Nation.
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  Speaker 1: But I think on the live meet and greet, I
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  Speaker 1: could see him sharing a lot more details. Obviously, meeting
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  Speaker 1: all of you beautiful people out there who are fans
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  Speaker 1: of this podcast, And as Ashley just said, I'm actually
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  Speaker 1: really excited because for the first time in a long time,
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  Speaker 1: some for the first time since the show, some of
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  Speaker 1: the women from my season are gonna be joining us
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  Speaker 1: as well, just to hang out, to talk, to laugh, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and to reminisce on everything that happened during our season
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  Speaker 1: uh The Bachelor. So again, that's June from four to
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  Speaker 1: five pm Pacific time. Uh. The link to the tickets.
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  Speaker 1: I'll read it out loud here, but we'll also be
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  Speaker 1: posting about it. It's see why a dot Live slash
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  Speaker 1: channel slash almost famous. Again. We'll be posting about this
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  Speaker 1: and saying a couple of times throughout the podcast, but
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  Speaker 1: we're super pumped to see you all, especially celebrating a
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  Speaker 1: night that will be nerve wracking for me to say. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: before we get in the hot topics for the week,
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  Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. When we come back, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be talking all of Bachelor news, and we have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of it along with the new announcement of
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor. Also, Claire Crawley season The Bachelorette is still happening,
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  Speaker 1: so let's take a break and we come back. It's
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  Speaker 1: almost fame as podcast first topic of the week, Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: at Claire Crawley didn't get a heads up about Matt
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  Speaker 1: jane Is being named the Bachelor, Ashley, I have my thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: but I want to hear yours first. It's according to
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  Speaker 1: US Magazine, So this isn't Claire saying it directly to
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  Speaker 1: US magazine. Does it definitely sound salacious like she thinks
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  Speaker 1: she's supposed to be in the loop on all Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: decisions when you read the headline, But when you go
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  Speaker 1: into it, it says a source says that Claire didn't
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  Speaker 1: know this was going to happen. Um, there's nothing salacious
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  Speaker 1: about this. It's a simple statement. She didn't know, and
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  Speaker 1: they announced, and she found out the way that everybody
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  Speaker 1: else found out, through the Good Morning America announcement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the headline reads as it. It's true, right,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't know, not that she should have known, not
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  Speaker 1: that she's saying she's mad that she didn't know, but
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  Speaker 1: she found out through Good Morning America. I do think
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  Speaker 1: that if I was Claire, and I'm sure Claire is
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  Speaker 1: a better person in the night, I would be a
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  Speaker 1: little I would imagine there's this like dang, Like typically
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, no matter what the circumstances, isn't announced before
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor at season has even started, and it's like
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  Speaker 1: you get your one moment to be the lead, and
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  Speaker 1: there's already another lead waiting, like typically you at least
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  Speaker 1: get till after the final rows. But Claire is not
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  Speaker 1: even gonna get that. But she's probably a better person
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  Speaker 1: than I. That's just how I would feel. I know
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying. To use a phrase from Tiara, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: she feels like perhaps she could feel like this is
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  Speaker 1: taking her sparkle away a little bit. But on the
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  Speaker 1: brighter side, she doesn't have to worry about any of
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  Speaker 1: her guys um being there starting a campaign to be
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  Speaker 1: a bachelor. You know, none of her guys are going
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  Speaker 1: to become bachelor. Yeah. It well, And I honestly, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: do you view that I viewed as a positive for her.
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  Speaker 1: I've used a positive it for her for sure, because
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  Speaker 1: the guy's no going into it is Hey, I'm here
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  Speaker 1: for Claire and Claire only now. There's obviously other things
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  Speaker 1: that can happen, paradise and all the stuff, But at
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  Speaker 1: least your first intention, there's gonna be this no who's
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  Speaker 1: going to be the next lead in that house? And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's wonderful for her. It sets her up
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  Speaker 1: and and talking about setting up the process and doing
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  Speaker 1: it well. Ari lion Dyke Jr. Has made headlines this
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  Speaker 1: week saying the bachelor process barely works that according to
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  Speaker 1: e Online, he's married with a kid. So I think
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  Speaker 1: what he's saying here is that it doesn't work often
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  Speaker 1: for a lot of people. And it was really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Jared and I were doing an interview about a week ago,
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  Speaker 1: and he said that he doesn't think the process was
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  Speaker 1: right for him, which is super ironic but also explains
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  Speaker 1: why it took us, you know, four years to get
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  Speaker 1: married from the time that we met. Yeah. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like it's not for everyone. You have to
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  Speaker 1: be comfortable with moving really fast and getting engaged and
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  Speaker 1: getting serious before seeing somebody in their own element. Ari says, quote,
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  Speaker 1: I think initially being the bachelor, you trust the process
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  Speaker 1: because you're like, this has worked for me, it worked
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  Speaker 1: in the past because I had such strong feelings towards
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  Speaker 1: someone in such a short amount of time. He said,
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  Speaker 1: it's such a difficult I hate to call it process,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a difficult show. And that's probably why you
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  Speaker 1: find a lot of people don't make it. It's because
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  Speaker 1: it's just so taxing emotionally. It's just like it's not
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  Speaker 1: natural to have two people that you have at the
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  Speaker 1: end and then have one person break up with the
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  Speaker 1: other person to get engaged to the other person an
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  Speaker 1: hour later. It's just so weird. No wonder why it
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  Speaker 1: barely works. I feel that I get that. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with them on that it's tough. It's it. It's not
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  Speaker 1: shocking that it doesn't work every time. But I think
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  Speaker 1: the caveat to all of that is it works sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: and what it does it's beautiful. Then we get to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of it. And to be honest, I'm
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  Speaker 1: actually shocked about how many times it has worked. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And and the cool part is like, actually my grandma
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  Speaker 1: follows Ari and Lauren's story like all the time because
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  Speaker 1: she saw it play out. And I don't know she
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  Speaker 1: was an Ari fan when was airing. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that side, but at least that she's a fan of
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  Speaker 1: their love story now because it has been so public
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  Speaker 1: and we do feel so involved and so When it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work, it's sad because we're part of that. When
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  Speaker 1: it does work, we get to celebrate with it. And
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  Speaker 1: it seems to be working more now than ever because
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  Speaker 1: I think we have an understanding of what it's like.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody that goes into it knows what they're getting into. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously, we just had the recent breakup of
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  Speaker 1: Colton and Cassie. That is one of the first major
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  Speaker 1: breakups from Bachelor Nation in a long time. In a
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  Speaker 1: long time. Uh well, speaking of a couple that together,
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  Speaker 1: Becca Koufrin speaks out about Garrett's controversial police support. That's
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  Speaker 1: according to the Eon Line as well. Right, So, if
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  Speaker 1: you guys remember last week, we were talking to Becca
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  Speaker 1: Martinez about this post and her strong feelings about it.
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  Speaker 1: We also said that we reached out to Garrett to
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  Speaker 1: see if he wanted to come on the podcast. We
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  Speaker 1: don't have him on this week. Nick was actually supposed
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  Speaker 1: to have him have both he and Becca on last week,
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  Speaker 1: and Nick announced I believe today that after a phone
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  Speaker 1: call with Garrett they planned out the whole podcast. It
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  Speaker 1: sounded good, but then about fifteen minutes after the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: Garrett texted him saying he actually wasn't comfortable coming on yet,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't feel like he was ready prepared enough to speak,
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  Speaker 1: and he still wanted time to educate himself. It's uh.
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  Speaker 1: And Garrett recently just had an Instagram post. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's in a position where I
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  Speaker 1: do think we all need to take a step back
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  Speaker 1: and become educated. Right. But I've also learned recently from
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  Speaker 1: a little show I do on Sunday Nights called Hope
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  Speaker 1: Still Wins, that one of the best way to be
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  Speaker 1: educated is to have conversation, to listen, to understand. And uh.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think I don't want to speak for
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  Speaker 1: a gear, but I imagine right now he's doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of that and maybe NIX podcast he didn't feel
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  Speaker 1: was he was ready for it, as you said, but
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  Speaker 1: Beckett is supporting him. Uh. And you know what, call
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  Speaker 1: call it what you will. It's it's not when you
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  Speaker 1: get into a relationship with a partner, you need to
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  Speaker 1: have them support you. Now, they don't always need to
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  Speaker 1: agree with you, they don't always need to say hey,
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  Speaker 1: you have it always right. But I do appreciate it
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  Speaker 1: when in the most difficult times your partner can stand
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  Speaker 1: by your side and say, hey, we're working through this
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  Speaker 1: at home, We're working through this together. I think I
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  Speaker 1: think we all need to take a step back and
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  Speaker 1: realize that that is a good thing that Becca is
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  Speaker 1: in a relationship with Garrett. That is a good thing
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  Speaker 1: that she is supporting him, even if she's not agreeing
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  Speaker 1: with him. Right. And Becca was really open about all
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  Speaker 1: of us on her podcast last week and how difficult
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  Speaker 1: it was, and when the podcast was released, she even
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  Speaker 1: felt like she didn't do a good enough job. But
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  Speaker 1: her takeaway here is she says, Garrett is my fiance
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  Speaker 1: and I love him and to his core. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that he's a good person. I don't aligne with and
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  Speaker 1: I don't agree with his social post um. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that he meant it in a malicious way. I
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  Speaker 1: do think it was tone deaf, and I do I
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  Speaker 1: think it was the wrong time and message and sentiment.
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  Speaker 1: So Becca, Geoffrin and Garrett still together. Becca is supporting Garrett.
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  Speaker 1: So Ashley into some really big news before we bring
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  Speaker 1: uh Mike Johnson on we gotta just announce, so I
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  Speaker 1: assume as podcast come on this. According to People Magazine,
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  Speaker 1: Matt James is the new Bachelor. Well, you guys, it
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  Speaker 1: is according to everyone now, and this is not the
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  Speaker 1: first announcement, but he is a new Bachelor, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the first time Ben and I would be we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about this. I was, of course, super happy to see
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  Speaker 1: this big move in Bachelor Nation. There was a petition
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  Speaker 1: out last week. Did we talk about the petition last week?
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  Speaker 1: We did? Okay, So there's a partetition out last week
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  Speaker 1: about getting the first for next season's Bachelor to be
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  Speaker 1: the first black lead. And I think it was asking
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  Speaker 1: for eighty five thousand signatures Ben and I signed, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I guess. A couple of days later, like the day
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  Speaker 1: that they hit the eighty five thousand, it was like
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  Speaker 1: Bachelors like, let's announce it, let's make the move, and
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  Speaker 1: they announced Matt James, who is Tyler Cameron's best friend.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, guys, um on Good Morning America. It
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  Speaker 1: was interesting. I thought it was very very interesting that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the press headlines made it seem like
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  Speaker 1: most Bachelor Nations should have known who Matt James was.
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  Speaker 1: I think probably didn't know who he was, right, I
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  Speaker 1: mean yeah, because unless you followed Tyler, you wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: known who Matt was. Yeah, and in the grand scheme
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  Speaker 1: of things, say they get seven million viewers a week,
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  Speaker 1: and two million people follow Tyler and one million people
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  Speaker 1: follow Tyler closely enough to really understand their relationship. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people probably scratching their heads. Who is
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  Speaker 1: this guy? He's very handsome, he's well spoken, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't know who he is. He was casted for Claire season,
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  Speaker 1: and then Claire and Matt had a little I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was it was a pretty small tiff,
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  Speaker 1: but Claire wasn't thrilled that Matt was doing cameo and
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  Speaker 1: kind of made a Twitter post announcement. At that point
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  Speaker 1: in time, I think we all realized that Matt going
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  Speaker 1: on Clear season probably wasn't this like gonna work out
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  Speaker 1: well for either of them. So it makes sense now
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  Speaker 1: that he is just moving on to be the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things to discuss here, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things I wanna hear and understand about Matt James
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  Speaker 1: named the next Bachelor. In addition, all that is like,
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  Speaker 1: where is Mike Johnson going to fill the role? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest question that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor fans had is, Okay, why are you guys picking somebody,
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  Speaker 1: a black guy that we don't know? Why didn't you
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  Speaker 1: pick Mike Johnson, who was so beloved and such a
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  Speaker 1: front runner for what became Peter season of The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: So we had to have Mike here to give his
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on all of this. Mike, welcome back to the
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  Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. Thank you Ben, Thank you Ashally for
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  Speaker 1: having me back. It was good, of course. Alright, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: tell us your honest feelings. How did it feel hearing
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  Speaker 1: that Matt James was going to be the first black
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor on? Was it Thursday morning? Friday? I think fan
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  Speaker 1: out Friday, m r, Yeah, one of those days. Matt
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  Speaker 1: is a good food. That's how I felt. I felt
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  Speaker 1: he is a single man's looking for love just like
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  Speaker 1: I am, and he'll be a great bachelord. He'll be
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  Speaker 1: a great lead. Was walk us through your emotions? I
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  Speaker 1: was just talking about, you know, uh, Claire being a
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  Speaker 1: better person than I am. Uh. You know, I remember
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  Speaker 1: the days leading up to the announcement of the Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew there was other people in that conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and I was anxious because I kind of set my
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  Speaker 1: life up to be the next Bachelor, because that's what
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  Speaker 1: was said to me. But I knew there was other
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  Speaker 1: people still in the running. I personally would have been
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. It's pretty disappointed or just like disheartened
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  Speaker 1: if I wasn't announced. True, that's that's how one was
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  Speaker 1: phil you would think. But quite honestly, I this isn't
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  Speaker 1: the first time that I felt rejection in his form.
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  Speaker 1: So you learned to I mean, you built up a callus, right,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I'm planning on moving um here in a
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  Speaker 1: few months anyway, so I was. My life has been
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  Speaker 1: planned and my mom taught me the serenity prayer, and
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  Speaker 1: I can't focus on things I cannot control, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so therefore, honestly, it is what it is. They
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  Speaker 1: picked a great guy in for like thirty minutes, I
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  Speaker 1: was but hurt, but after that it's you move on
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  Speaker 1: with life. No, there's nothing that no one can do
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  Speaker 1: to make me feel less than I know. I'm an
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  Speaker 1: amazing even being an amazing person. So therefore I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna let a few executive producers that didn't choose me
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  Speaker 1: twice make me feel any type of way. Mike, did
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  Speaker 1: you talk to producers recently about possibly becoming the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't given an offer. Do you didn't have any
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  Speaker 1: discussions recently? I haven't had any reaching discussions. Why do
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  Speaker 1: you think that is? What? I mean? What? But we
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  Speaker 1: we obviously, uh, we're hoping for something like this to
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  Speaker 1: happen this year. Yeah. Why do you think it is
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  Speaker 1: that two years in a row now you have felt rejection? Man?
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  Speaker 1: I honestly, if I knew, I would tell you. I truly,
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  Speaker 1: if I knew, I would tell you. I was just
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  Speaker 1: on the phone my grandma earlier. She asked me the
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  Speaker 1: same question. I just really genuinely don't know. I feel
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  Speaker 1: that for over a year since I've been in Bastro
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  Speaker 1: nation um family, I've shown my character dating and day out,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't feel that nothing that I show is
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  Speaker 1: not conducible what a bachelor would be, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: so I'm I have no idea. How did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about so you've met Matt, You've met Matty and you
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  Speaker 1: think that he's great bachelor material? Why would they choose him?
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  Speaker 1: Who's never who the fans aren't connected to? Over you?
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  Speaker 1: Good question? Actually, Like, if I knew, I would tell you,
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  Speaker 1: I like This has nothing to do with Matt, right,
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  Speaker 1: He's He's genuinely a great individual. Why have they choose Matt,
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  Speaker 1: someone who isn't as known in the light over myself
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  Speaker 1: for other cast members that you know have built a
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  Speaker 1: repetation in the light of the Batchel nation. I have
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  Speaker 1: no to the idea, no idea. I know that Matt
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  Speaker 1: was cast to be on Claire season, but that's that's
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  Speaker 1: all I really am. Has anybody reached out to you
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  Speaker 1: since the announcement from the show? Yes? Yes, what that
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  Speaker 1: conversation look like? Uh, that conversation was fresh, right. That
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  Speaker 1: conversation took place on Fridday. Uh. I was golfing Friday,
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  Speaker 1: So I was already like moving on my life. Literally,
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  Speaker 1: I don't when I say when I say it, I
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: really mean I was already golfen moving on my life.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a single man. I want to wipe you, right.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: But that conversation was raw honesty on my part as always,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and I was just appreciative that someone reached out. Rachel
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: talked this week about her feelings when Matt was announced,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't just happiness. A lot of her was
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: holding back because she was saying that she feels like
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: this was just like the Batchelor producers checking a box
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and being like, okay, we've had a diversity, we've given
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: them their first black lead. Now they can just stop,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: you know, or asking for more change. Right, how did
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you feel did you agree with her sentiments? I do?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I do? I think that, Um, I'm confused, was like allabastination?
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: What happened to Claire? Right? I feel like it's supposed
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to be. Isn't there a certain way that this stuff
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: gets announced? You know? Even if it was me, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: would still say what I think Matt said, which was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the Claire season like it just the way they rolled
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it out. We're talking about that being in the podcast.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I said, Hey, I don't I don't know how this
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: usually happens, but I I know he's loved Claire's season.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: To go, I would be I would you know, typically
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: at least get through your season. It's after the final
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: rows and your fifteen minutes of fame is done, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you stand up there at the end and you say, hey,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: thank you all for your time of watching me. Now
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: it's on too, and they bring out somebody else and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: it's now it feels I mean, what do you think, Mike, like,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: do you think this whole season, Claire season will have
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: this like constant look to the future. Now, I hope
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: it doesn't. I hope it doesn't either. Every time that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I've spoken, I've always mentioned Claire because I on Friday,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the attention should have still be on Claire. It's her seasons,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: it's she's the current bachelorette, and I just feel like
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the way he did it, it's kind of is going
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to make it come out to be that way. Man.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not fair to her. I love what
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you said on your Instagram about her. You're like, Claire,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: baby girl. We still are so excited about watching you.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: It was so sweet and I'm gonna end this on
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: my behalf. I don't know if Ben has any more
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: questions With a silly question. A lot of fans of
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: notice them back and forth between you and Claire on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: social media. Perhaps a little flirtation. Would we ever be
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: able to get to see the beloved Mike Johnson joined
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Claire season. Well, look, it could be a possibility. Let's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: let's start that petition now. If you're down, you guys
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: would make a hot couple. That's a I mean that's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: just giggles, Mike. That's all we got at that one
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: is giggles. That means there's something. There's something there when
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I giggle. When I giggle, I know I don't want
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: to say what I'm feeling, all right, fair enough? Uh,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: but Mike, I I do think you've handled this, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you know I'm not. I guess I don't know why
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I'm the one that to say this, but I do
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: think you've handled this better than than most, especially right
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: away coming out and saying, you know, don't feel bad
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: for me, you are moving forward. Um, but I do
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think when you can, I
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: know it's not now all a bachelination is wondering why
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: not you? And if you were to have any assumptions, speculation,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: anything that you would understand, why not you? Whenever you
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: understand what you will you share it with us. Well,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I think we're just all kind of like, what's going
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: what's going on here? Again? I literally just boys do
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: and I on a bad patty, Yo'll talk you know
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: else around. I wish I knew the answer to that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I truly do. I can speculate like anyone else. Um,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm not seeing nobody. Um, I mean great shape.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I think I'm a decent looking guy. I know that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I was one of America's fan favorites. I mean, I'm
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: professionally in a good place. I'm financially free, I live
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: by myself. I mean, I don't know. I really don't know. Well,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: what are the next steps in your life? Besides possibly
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: we were going on clar season. You know, when I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: set my mind to something, it often happens. Anyway. Okay,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: so you have a book coming out and you're you're moving.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Were you moving? Tell us about all this. I'm thinking
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: about moving to Austin, you know. Yeah, it's a great city.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And I'm always at the airport when COVID not going on,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: so I'm right there by the airport. Every awesome as well.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: But yes, I have a book coming out. When I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: was on Hannah Brown season The Bacherette, I opened up
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit about a miscarriage that me and my
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: ex had, and you know, we talked about it on
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: your Guys podcast, which I thank you so much. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: still get dems about it. And at the time I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: was flooded with people telling me their stories, and quite honestly,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: I was responding back to everyone, or not every single indivision,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: but I was responding to so many people that it
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: just continued to flow out of me, and I wrote up.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I call it a guide in a journal to self
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: love and to how to obtain that. I mean, the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: book is, like I said, it's uh, it's soft enough
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to open open you in, bring you in, and strong
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: enough to hold your tears. And it's parent enough to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: change your life. And so that's literally my aim with
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: this book. Let's come out, when does it come out
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: at this fall, let's fault and look forward to it. Well,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we also have something to look forward to with you, man. Uh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: we were We're not saying goodbye to you, and I
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: don't think anybody will be. Uh. Next week in celebration
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: of I mean, the monumental occasion that my season of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor with uh this some of the best women
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: of all time, it's re airing on ABC, and uh,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just thrilled about it. It's the cool It's just
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: the best thing for a relationship. But anyways, because it's airing,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: we have nothing to stop. We can't stop it. You're
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: kind enough to come join Ashley and I on our
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: almost famous live podcast. In addition to that, we're gonna
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: be selling some tickets, as we mentioned earlier, to do
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a little meet and greet with the three of us. Uh, Mike,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: what are you hoping to get out of this meet
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and greet? Maybe some love? I want? I Ope? So man, well,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: we're super pumped for it. Again, anybody out there listening, Uh,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: continue to tune in. We'll share the link and the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: information to not only the live podcast, but also in
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: addition to that, how you can get access to the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: meet and greet with Mike Johnson. And then I mean,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I guess Ashley and I will be there, but you
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: really are there to meet Mike Johnson. Yeah, we're definitely
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: making you the headliner right now because you have far
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: more of a draw. Yeah, that's right. Um, Mike, are
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you pumped for that? Are you pumped to meet these fans?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm so excited for that. It'll be
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: so fun too. That's just what I hated about COVID
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: right now, because I want to get out there and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: meet everyone. So this is gonna be a great thing
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: for us, all three of us, to be on. Actually,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you're definitely a headliner. Thank you. Yeah, I'm just we're
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: all like tied up and married, you know, and it's
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: way more fun to meet single people from Batchelor Nation,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: because if you're single, you want to meet the singles.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: You know, hopefully not for long. You know, I'm tired.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of being a single forever. I got great hair.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Did you say you have great hair? Gray hair? Oh?
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say you do have great hair, and
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I like your hair at this leg if that's weird
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: for you to say that, the quarantine cut is great
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: for you. Thank you, appreciate unbelievable. What Hey, anybody out
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: there listening, make sure you tune in later on Mike.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you, man, thanks for for sharing with us.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I know this is uh, I mean, hey, friend a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: friend here. Um, I know this last week had did
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: not be easy, would not be the word. It's just
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: a little disheartening. And uh and again you just handled
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it better than than I ever would. And you just
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: handled it in a way that uplifted Claire and Matt
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: um And so thanks for representing Bachelor Nation. Well it
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: helps us all out. So thank you. Yeah, that really
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: was a beautiful Instagram post it baby smile. I appreciate that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: I think one of the king said, the best judgment
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: man when he's in controversy and the way that he
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: acts afterwards is how you should see him. And so
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Then Hey, no problem, Mike. Hey,
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week. We'll see you next week.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Looking forward to a buddy anything, uh, anything anywhere anybody
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: can check you out. Make sure that you go get
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the book. Mike Johnson's book will be coming out this fall,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: also following on Instagram, and uh, and we'll be seeing
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you next week. But thanks, see buddy. If you're looking
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: for tickets or the meat and greet tickets, make sure
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: you go to c y a dot Live, slash channel,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: slash almost famous. So we heard from Mike. Now there
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: are a ton of quotes out there from Bachelor Nation
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: responding to the news of Matt, And I do want
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: to say that, like I said that Matt was random
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: of random choice, I just mean he was far more
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of a random choice than than Mike, who has been
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a fan favorite in the past, you know what I mean. Like,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Matt does seem like such a nice guy, and I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: got so stoked about him being the Bachelor after um,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: seeing Hannah's response. How did you see Hannah's response on Instagram? Ben, Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: definitely she was wasn't cute? Yeah, it was really awesome.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: And I mean we've watched you and I have been
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: able to watch my Matt and UH from a distance
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of people have, and he is he has
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: that like charisma that is it's just like it feels
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: fun to be around. And so I'm excited to watch
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that UH displayed on TV because it's been a while,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: including myself, where we've had somebody that, even from a distance,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: is so charismatically you're just like, I want to know
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that person, right, And seeing Hannah's reaction me think of
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: kind of like the time that Nick was announced. It's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: like when that like older brother figure is announced as
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor and you know that they deserve it so
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: much and you know that they're like such a good
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: person and you just want to see them like find
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: their happily ever after, So seeing I like kind of
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: just I don't know, you could just trust that somebody
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: is so good and decent after seeing their friends react
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: in such a giddy way. And I mean, this is
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a huge announcement for the Bachelor. I mean, I know
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that we can we can criticize timing, we can say, wow,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: this feels that you need your reaction, Like, that's not
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: my place to say say any of that, you know,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But what I will say is this is a big
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: announcement for the Bachelor, and so you know, if they're
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: going to make this announcement when they did, then they're
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: going to make sure that he is like an outstanding
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: human like they This is a big deal for them,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and so we can get excited about the fact that
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: now we have a bachelorette season to look forward to,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: but also a really exciting Bachelor's season with a extremely
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: rutable lead. Yeah. I'm really excited to get to know him.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: That's kind of fun, and it's you know, it's also
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: going to be fun is seeing somebody who hasn't been
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: through the process before, has no idea what to expect
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: to be thrown into the position of the lead. I'm
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: kind of scared for him. That sounds awful. Scared. All right,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: let's read some quotes. This is exactly what Hannah Brown said,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: and you guys didn't see her Instagram story. Just what
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: the heck? Matt James is the Bachelor? I literally just
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: woke up and I could not be more excited. You
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: all should be freaking excited because he's like the best
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: human being in the entire world. Go ahead, get started
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: making your number one Matt James a fan t shirts printed,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: because I'm definitely gonna be wearing one, y'all. This is
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: amazing and so proud of you. Matt jar To What
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the crap it's that was really fun? Wells said this
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: exclamation point, great move, Bachelor, ABC, But I also kind
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of want to see Claire and Matt get into a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: fight night one. About his cameo account, Sean Lowe said, awesome,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing a season without a recycled a
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Bachelor to Kayla Quinn then uh from uh our season Bachelor?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah of our season of the Bachelor react and said
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: after forty seasons of The Bachelor, today's news is a
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: momentous step forward as Matt James was just announced as
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the first black Bachelor. It makes me feel so proud
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to be a part of this Bachelor family that listens
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: and stands up for representation. Literally just heard the news
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and want to shout it out from the rooftops. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: want to applaud, not only Bachelor ABC for taking action,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but also the hard work from Bachelor Diversity for getting
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: eighty five thousand signatures that advocates for change. As a
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: daughter of biracial parents, watching cross cultural diverse love unfold
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: feels deeply personal and inclusive. I have heard wonderful things
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: about this handsome man of faith who is generous and kind.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: That is from Kayla Quinn and I touched on Rachel's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: response earlier, saying that you know, basically she was hoping
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that she hopes that this is not just a new
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: jerk reaction to the movement. So we're going to roll
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the clip that Rachel posted on her Instagram story to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: be very clear. And I can't believe I actually have
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: to explain myself on this. I am happy that Matt
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: James is the Bachelor, and I congratulated him, and I
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: wish him the very best and support him on this
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: new journey and this new venture for him. But at
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the same time, I also don't want the people, the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: eighty five thousand plus people who signed the petition to
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: forget what else it is that you're fighting for. That's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the only thing I'm pointing out. But I also do
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: stand by the act that I don't like how they
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: rolled him out. I feel like it takes away from
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: who he is with the timing of the announcement. I
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: don't think that's fair for Matt James, and I don't
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: think that does him justice as to what he represents
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: as a black man and what he can bring to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: this role. Now that's all the quotes we have surrounding
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Matt James. Ashley and I want to be clear, we
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: are jacked about Matt James being named the next Bachelor.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: We think it's gonna be awesome. But again, in the
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: words of Mike Johnson, we haven't forgotten about you, Claire baby.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: So we're excited for clear season. Still no update on
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: when and how filming will happen, but it will happen
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: at least. That is the most recent updates from the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Bachelor franchise. Hey, we have a really exciting rest of
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the podcast for you. We're gonna start interviewing some of
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the fan favorites from Caitlin Bristow season of The Bachelor
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: et which is airing Monday night on ABC. So stay
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: with us. We'll be back, but let's take one break.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: When we come back. We have been Zorne from Caitlyn
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: season of The Bachelorette. Alright, guys, and now it's time
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: to discuss me watching my husband make out with my friend.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I keep saying this because this is a huge joke,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: like how weird is it? It's so weird. But it
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: didn't make me feel like it didn't have any pings
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: of jealousy or anything like that. Okay, fine, There's one time,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: and that was during their first kiss, and it looked
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: really good. It was a really good first kiss, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I go, Jared, why don't you put your hand on
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: my face like, you know, like caressed like the whole
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: cheek jawline area. And he goes, I used to do
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that with you. Thanks. Wow, two and half years in.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: That was the only time I felt like really jealous.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: It's was like Jared was such more of a reserved
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: guy back then. I never when I watch it, his
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: um politeness and how much of a gentleman he is
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: really shows through, which is still of course true to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: this day. But I think of him as so much
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: more like passionate and a little bit more outspoken than
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: he came across on Caitlin season. You can tell that
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: he was not out of his shell yet Yeah he wasn't,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I mean. And it's also why I think Jared and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I got along so well during that season, is you know,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: he and I both were kind of fish out of water.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: These other guys seem to kind of like catch on
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: pretty fast, including some of the guys that will be
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: interviewing today, But for Jared and I, there was many
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: times where Jared and I would sit back in the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: back and just be like, I don't know what to
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: do right now, Like I don't know how I fit
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: into this. I'm sure Jared will tell you the story
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: when he comes on a little bit later in the podcast,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: but he always remembers this time where you and him
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: were an a sauna for like an hour and it
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: was the first like you weren't miked up and your
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: top four and you just couldn't believe how far two
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: guys like you got in this competition. I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to two real, two real bad guys to look at
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: or to have a conversation with. You guys just totally
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: downplay yourselves, which is totally ridiculous. I remember that. Yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to you about that. That That
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: is one of my favorite behind the scenes moments that
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Jared and I literally sat in the steam room for
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: an hour just talking life. Well, actually, after watching Caitlin
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: season back, what do you think about these reruns and
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the three hour edited versions. Are you into it? Do
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: you like it? I don't know. I feel like I
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: like them because it's fun for me as somebody who
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: was on the show to get nostalgic to see my friends,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: just to see like where all these relationships got their roots.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: But I also feel like, um, you don't like get
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to like sink into it. It's good for taking your
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: ripped down memory lane, but I don't know that it
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: would be interesting for people who have never seen these seasons,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Like you're not going to get attached to characters. But
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: if you want to look back and be like, oh
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: my god, I remember that, I remember that so fun,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: then they're great. But if you want to watch a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: season and feel emotionally invested, just go on HBO, Max
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: or Amazon iTunes and watch the whole thing. Yeah, you
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: know the I'm glad they're doing it. I'm glad this
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: is something they've invested into to put this content out
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: here during this time where it's so difficult to have
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: new content, but it is something that Bachelor World's wanted
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: for a while. I mean I have heard many times
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like I've got an emails and messages. Can they start
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: replaying seasons? You know, the edited version. I think you
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: can watch a whole season in three hours. I do
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: watch Caitlin's season back, and it's it's hard for me
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: to watch because this is why. Actually Caitlin was such
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: an amazing Bachelor ape and there were so many amazing
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: people on that season. At least I'm biased too because
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I think there was so many great guys and there
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: is so much drama and so many storylines there aren't
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: able to be showed and shown that made this season
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: so much more unique than really any season ive ever seen.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Like there were things that were wildly dramatic in the house.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: There were storylines that were really really like monumental for us,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: as as contestants that were never even shown on the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: big season because there wasn't enough time. So then you
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: cut that down to three hours, and it feels like,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: can this short edited version do Caitlin Bristow justice? And
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think it can because it was so good
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: so often it was just the best probably the best
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: season I've ever watched. But you know, I'm also a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: little biased because I know more of you guys. There's
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: more friends in that season and Chris Soul season than
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I have you know, for many other season And you know,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I'm too invested to really give it a neutral rating.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But you know it was one of the shining moments
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that they did show. What's that? It was? Your sex
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: said class, Oh geez, it's always been one of your
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: favorite seasons. I know, so good, it's so funny. That was. Yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: there's so much to that. We'll talk about that here
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: just a little bit, Ashley. We promised it. So let's
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: start bringing on these contestants. We've got Ben Zorne from
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow season of The Bachelor at Welcome to the podcast. beIN.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: What's up guys, Well, you were the man on Caitlin
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: season that sent my husband to the emergency room. Let's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: talk about that boxing date. How Jared's very proud still
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that he like got up to the finals and he
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: was boxing you, somebody who has a lot of size
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: on him. What did you do to like you knock
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: him in the head? Was that the rules? It was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: like the first day pretty much the first or second
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: day that we all met each other. So just getting
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: in the ring with everybody was was was wild. I mean,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I never thought that I'd be in the ring with
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: with Jared and all that stuff. I mean, usually we're
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: in different weight classes so the fact that we were
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: in there together was kind of funny. But um, I
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: feel terrible because I mean, like I said, I just
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: met Jared at that point and like his only concussion.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want to fight this guy. I like this guy.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: But now it was fun. It was a lot of fun.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: I remember that day. Uh. I also got knocked out
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: pretty good on that day too by Jared. Actually, Um
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: took a nicer right hook to the to the chin.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Then what's your feelings leading up to this week knowing
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that Caitlin's season was gonna air? Um, honestly, I was excited. Man.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: H This was a point in my life that I
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: looked back very fondly of. You know, it was very
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: memorable for me. Um. I made so many great friends
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: from the show, and so looking back, you know, it's
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be kind of cool to Uh. It was
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: kind of cool to see everything and see everything unfold again.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Did your fiance feel weird that, like America was gonna
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: watch you be romantic with another girl? She was. She
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: was a little weird at first, but then she I mean,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: she saw this season, so it's not like it was
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: anything new that she was seeing. Um. I think in
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the beginning she was a little uncomfortable, but now she
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: knows Caitlin. They're good friends. Uh, and so it ended
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: up being totally fine. She was, she was fine with it.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: So funny. Did you guys get it was your wedding
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: affected by COVID? Oh? Yeah, we were supposed to get
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: married on July twenty and now, um, were actually end
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: up pushing the next year. We don't have a date
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: set yet, but um, but we're gonna We're gonna end
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: up pushing the next year. I'm so sorry. That sucks. Yeah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people have been affect
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to buy it, and we're just one of the many.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Well we you know, as we saw, we didn't get
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: to see a lot of you on Caitlin's recap show. Uh.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: And we've talked to you a couple of times since then,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and especially at our live podcast in San Francisco. You
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: are engaged you were supposed to be married here in
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the next month and a half. You're not doing that.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: But one thing we uh we missed the recap show
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: is just how much of a connection you and Caitlin
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: had and then you really chose. Uh, you know, you
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: haven't participated in too much Bachelor esque stuff since then. Yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: if you can look back on this time, going back,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you know, four and a half years ago, what what
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: were the feelings like entering into this Night one? Because
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I kind of felt like the Night one. I kind
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: of felt like I was going to Night one as
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Caitlyn season was about the arrogant. Yeah, no, I agree, Um,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I mean going to Night one, I was. I was nervous,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I was sweating bullets. I didn't really know to expect
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: at that point. I hadn't really seen too many seasons
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of it, um, but uh, it was definitely something that Um,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I was just excited to see what happened, you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I was just excited to go for it. And you know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: they didn't really show too much of of my connection
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: with Caitlin. But it's one of those things where it's
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you feel like your connection with with the with the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: main lead. Um, you have a certain way that you
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: feel about that person, and she doesn't really tell you
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: how she feels, and so, um, I felt like we
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: had a good connection. Um I felt like everything was
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: was great at the point when I got set home,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: which I was a little bummed about. But looking back
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: on it again, you can definitely tell that she had
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: song or connections with some of the other guys, you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: being one of them. Um, But it was definitely Uh,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It's definitely something I looked back on finally, and I
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: had just had a blast with everybody, including Caitlin. What
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: shook me watching it back way more than it did
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: when it originally aired was the fact that there was
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: two bachelorettes. It's just so almost some a misogynistic. It's
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: so crazy that that we were all. I know that
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: some people weren't okay with it, but I just feel
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like there would be outrage that that happened today, just
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: five years later. Who did you guys vote? But that
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: that being said, what did you guys vote for? M
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I voted for for Caitlin. Um I had a I
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: think I've talked about this before on Your Guys Show,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: But um, I had a great connection with uh with
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: britt right off the bat. We had a great conversation,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: but I just felt like there was more depth to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: Caitlin and I was excited to learn more about Caitlin.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: So that was intriguing to me. Ben, you voted for
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Caitlin too, I did. I went into it actually very interested.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Uh in um Britt. I really thought that she was
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: going to be it, And after like ten minutes, which
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: is wild with each of them, I was just more
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and more convinced that Caitlin was going to be somebody
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: who I be able to get to know easier. I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: felt like our conversation flowed. I felt like she was funny.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: I felt like she was kind of a it's for
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: lack of a better term, like one of the producers
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: before the night one was like, Hey, in this process,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: one of the beautiful things is you can take risks,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: like you can date somebody that you typically wouldn't date.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: And Caitlin was that for me, and I'm really glad
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that happened. I think Britt would have been amazing. But
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I did vote for Caitlin based on just that ten
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: minute first conversation that we had. Yeah, I agree, I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: mean that's kind of all you have to go off.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: At that point, you really are going off a ten
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: minute conversation and trying to figure out who you want
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to date. Caitlin asked me the the other day, Ben, what
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: was the most awkward memory from her season on the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Bats ry. I know mine. Mine was my entrance. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: literally said two words like I couldn't even speak. I said,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and by and I mean that's
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: how I mean, that's exactly how it went down. What
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: was your most awkward memory? Who? Um? I think my
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: entrance was probably just as bad as yours. I don't remember.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I remember walking in the walking in the door and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: being like, all right, well I'm getting sent home. I
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: made a fool of myself. Um. For me, it was
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: um awkward. Probably wrapping on stage. I think I battled.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I rapped battled Tanner on stage in New York City,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and I was I don't think I've ever felt more
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: like a fish out of water in my life. I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: can't imagine Tanner wrapping. And I don't think they showed
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it this time around either. Probably for the best, definitely
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: for the best. Well, hey, Ben, you're the man. I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on here. Ashley and I have always
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: been big fans of years, We wish you the best
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: with your upcoming wedding. I know it's not ideal, but
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: thanks for taking some time in joining us here today
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: to talk to us and everybody out there listening. Of course, man,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Love you guys, and I'll be
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: seeing you guys at the wedding when we were schedule.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: We'll see then see you guys up next. We have
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: somebody who is charming, lovable. Uh. He and Caitlin just
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: had some amazing moments, some really passionate kisses. Uh. It's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: it's it's our one and only. Ashley's husband, Jared. Jared,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: come on that almost famous podcast how is everybody doing? Hello? Well,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: when you were waiting for you to get on, we
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: were talking about how crazy it was that Britt and
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Caitlin ver two bachelorettes together. And I'm thinking about how
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: normal rejection on the show feels, which is like one
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: handsome man or one beautiful woman who you've developed feelings
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: for is rejecting you in front of the nation. But
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: with Britt, she had a vote of like thirty men
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: who voted against her. Like that is far more heartbreaking,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and it's going to affect your self esteem way more.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Can you believe? Can you believe that we did this?
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Oh you're asking me to comment on that? Damn all right? Uh?
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I mean not all thirty guys voted against her. From
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: from reading the room, it was probably Caitlin. And also
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: it was stupid. You have to h incredible women, you know,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: both beautiful, smart, both like out of almost all of
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: our leagues, and like we're supposed to vote on the
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: girl that we want to date. It was the stupidest
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever had to endure, which I guess says
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: you know that I'm very lucky in life. But it
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: was just it was ridiculous. This was before Bachelor in
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Paradise was like a thing like this wasn't bachelor going
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise wasn't like a coveted position. I'm
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: wondering if it was more so leading up to that,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: whether it would just be like or Caitlin would have
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: just been like, no, no, I don't want to battle,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I'll just go on Bachelor in Paradise. No, you always
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: want to be the bachelor. If if producers were like, hey,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: you have a out of being bachelorette, you take it.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it just they shouldn't have had two girls
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: be a bachelorette. It hasn't aged well. I think the
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: show would agree with that. And that's all I gotta say.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Oh you know who I voted for it by the way,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: nice Shirrett. Do you just get off? And he voted
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: for Britt as he's did you? Yeah, as you stayed
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: in the episode. He looks like he just golfed. I'm jealous.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Uh what was I saying, Oh, Brett, Yeah, I voted
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: for Well listen, like I said, it was just talk
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: about what you said on my Instagram today. Uh, it
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: was just like I said, I mean, you're voting for
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: two incredible women. And then I would talk to Caitlin
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and she was awesome, and I would talk to Britt
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: and she was awesome, and it was just like I
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: walked into the room. And then the reason I voted
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: for Britt was because before the show started, I felt
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like I would have more of a connection with Britt,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: and then ironically, when I met them both, I had
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: more of a connection with Caitlin. So like that, and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: I was going back and forth. Then I was like, well,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll go with my initial reaction, which was
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: stupid because I went off my reaction before I met
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: them in person. Brett was also so your type stereotip
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: quick like, that was your safe spot, your comfortable zone. Yeah,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: that's a first statement, Jared. Let's flash through this season,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: which was Caitlin's season. We had talked about early on
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and we hitted at it. We've brought it up on
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the podcast before, but one of my favorite memories from
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: our time of the Bachelorette was you and I were
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: the final four. The other two men were away. You
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: and I had access to a steam room. We also
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: knew that cameras and audio equipment cannot make it into
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: the steam room, so we went in there to have
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: a conversation, one of the first real conversations we could
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: have in a long time. We sat in this room
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: for no less than an hour talking about how wild,
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: absolutely wild, this last few months have been. Our listeners
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: out there probably wondering, like, what did this mean to you, Jared,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: to be in a steam room for an hour with me?
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: What was like? Well, I think you and I bonded
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: in that moment because both you and I were on
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the same page from the very beginning. Which was what
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the hell is going on? And what are we doing
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: right now? And what's about to happen? And then you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: as you guys know, you're always miked up. You're always
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: on camera, even when you know a lot of things
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: don't get aired, but you're still on camera. And so
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: this was the first time where Ben and I really
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: were not miked up, not on camera, and just able
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to actually talk about things we were afraid to say
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: on camera, which was, Okay, what's going on? Are like?
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Because you know, you're always like, oh no, I'm I'm ready,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm I'm fully invested. And while you are and
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Ben and I were, it was also at the same
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: point like are we ready? Are is this? Are we
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: good to go? Are are we making the wrong decision?
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: This is happening so fast? Um? And so that was
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: like the first time you and I were able to
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: just like really say that and feel comfortable saying that.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: It was like therapy. Plus, you know, for all the
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: listeners out there, I got to see Ben in his
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: boxer's sweat. I'm sure that was a very nice image
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: for a lot of women out there. Uh, it was.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: It was a good time. That was one of my
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: favorite moments. It really was mine too, No, it was,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and you're right. I remember looking at you being like, hey,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I think I'm ready to get engaged, but yeah, am
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I crazy? Like? But we we were like, do you
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: know Caitlin has been a name? Because I don't. I
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: do remember that. That's actually sad uh, Jared, I've always
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: appreciated the way you've handled humor and humility. It wasn't
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: able to be shown on the recap show, but as
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: much as it should have been. But when it came
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: to Caitlin, do you feel like your connection with her
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: was a lot because she's always made us lap. Do
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: you feel like it was a lot of the laughing
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: back and forth, uh, kind of more humorous connection. Yeah,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: oh absolutely, And thank you for saying that. Bro. You know,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I feel the exact same way towards you and Ben.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: You're someone I've definitely looked up to since the day
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I met you. But going to Caitlin, Yeah, our action
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: was definitely more. Well, there was romance, it was a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: romantic relationship. It was far more based in friendship because
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: we would just laugh constantly. And I remember before the
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: rose ceremony where I got sent home the cocktail party
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: was canceled that night, and I remember before the cocktail
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: party got canceled, I was like, I really need to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: talk to Caitlin because every time we hang out, we
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: never talked about the future or like marriage or kids.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Were always just present in the moment and laughing, which
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: is a good sign. But also I'm'm not sure how
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: I feel about it, Like I feel like I need
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: to be like, hey, is this something that's gonna last?
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Uh so, Uh, I agree with you. Was definitely a
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: rooted in friendship, and I do wish that I could
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: quote Dumb and Dumber with him like Caitlyn did. It's
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: my it's my fall back. It's it's it's the only flow,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: like major flow in our relationship. You don't get my humor,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and it makes me sad. Like I quote Billy Madison,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I quote Happy Gilmore, Dumb and Dumber Anchorman and A
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: She's like, what the hell are you talking about anchor
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: man quotes? You get my incorment quotes. Sometimes it's pretty good. Yeah,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I don't watch boy movies. I'm silary Jared. We asked
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Ashley this earlier if it was awkward for her to
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: be married and watch her husband make out with her friend.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you the same question. Is it
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: awkward for you to watch yourself make out with your friend? Now?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: It was kind of awkward to watch everybody make out
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: with each other, you know, because like I saw you
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: make out with her, and I'm like, it's like, it's
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: like watching your friends make out, you know how, Like
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you're at a party and your your two friends that
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you've been friends with for years, like drunkenly make out
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's just weird to see visually.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: And it was the same thing here because we've been
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: through so much history now, like watching myself with Caitlin,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: you with Caitlin even like it wasn't that weird with Nick,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: I guess, but um, like Cupcake and it like I guess,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: we didn't see t Order Tanner kissed her at all.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know they did. He did, he did, they said,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: he said they never aired it. Um, but it was
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: definitely like worse watching myself kiss Caitlin with Ashley because
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: she because you put your your hand on her cheek,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and you don't do that to me anymore. I do sometimes,
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: not as much as I used to, But you know,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: it's you know, we're married for almost a year. Oh,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: I'll put the hand there. You know that. I like that. Listen. Um,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: what if Chris souls this season was airing, you had
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: to watch my sloppy kisses with him? Would that make
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: you feel weird? You just laugh? I think it would
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: definitely make me cringe where you like, wasn't your thing
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: with kissing Chris, Like you swallowed his mouth or something like? Yes, Jared,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know it was. They were. They weren't the
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: most attractive kisses, but I really got a downpat with
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: you in Paradise. Those were not Yeah, those weren't awkward
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: at all. So I give myself a lot of credit
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: for that one. Well, Jared, Uh, I love you. Ashley
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: obviously loves you. Uh. It was really fun to watch
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you back and to see you shine once again. Thanks
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: for coming on here, Thanks for catching us up on
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: everything going on in your life. But once again, man,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: it was I watched this season and I'm I watched
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: this season back. I've been looking at pictures today just
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: uh of the season to reminisce on it all. And Uh,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: it's it's incredible that the people that you meet through
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: this experience along the way, and it made me have
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: a sense of joy about the show that I've always felt,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: but it's turned more into like a memory for me.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: But reminiscing on this made me smile because of the
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: pictures of you and I and our friendship. So I
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: appreciate you, buddy, and thanks for coming on here, dude.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, I have. The feeling is absolutely mutual.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Mutual love you, buddy, Like it's cool, uh for quickly, Yeah,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: just like when you think back where it all started,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and now like Ben, you're someone that spoke at mine
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: and Ashley's wedding, uh and obviously you know Nick. Who
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: would have thought Nick would have at the wedding and
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: and delivered a speech during our ceremony and like, good god. Um,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: So it's pretty incredible. Love you too, buddy, Love you,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Love you my wife, love you my husband. Thanks Jared,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: one of our friends. He was also Ashley and Jared's wedding.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite people from Caitlin Bristow's season and
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: one of Ashley's favorite people as well, and also I
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: think one of Caitlin's favorite it's Chris, doctor Chris Strandberg.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the almost famous podcast. Great to be here, Chris,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: I need to come in and visit you because I
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: think I need INVISI line. Actually, actually, your teeth are perfect.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: That's a conversation for another time. One of the most
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: disappointing things about This Bachelor Greatest Season's ever episode was
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: that they didn't show you rying kind of hysterically on
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: a cliff. I can't believe it was the best TV
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: ever made. I'm on a cliff, tears of sadness, a
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: puddle of disappointment underneath my face, and they didn't show it.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: And you had to watch Caitlin, uh take off in
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: that helicopter. Yes, and you were stranded there on that cliff.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I was stranded there on the cliff, so stranded because
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: they were filming it. They actually had a second helicopter,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: but I couldn't take either helicopter home, so I just
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: watched my hopes and dreams fly away. Wait. This is
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: a funny thing, though, because people don't understand this about
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the show, and it's a question we could ask a lot.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: So it is true. Caitlin did fly away on a helicopter.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: It probably took her a good hour to get back
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: to the hotel. You had to then drive How long
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: does the drive take? So I drove in the back
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: of a small van and it took three and a
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: half hours. You know that the exactly that happened to
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: me in the bad Lands. I watched Chris leave and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know, once I recovered from the dumping, Um,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I go, okay, so where's our helicopter? Right, They're like,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: oh no, the van is years and it was a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: three hour drive back. Yours was even more desolate than mine. Actually,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: at least you got to see the beauty that was Ireland, right.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: It was gorgeous. It's always one of the it's like, uh,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: it is one of the sad parts. Is it really
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: is like a really sad moment and then like reality
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: hits you and you go crap, Like I could be
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: eight hours from any type of civilization or any airport,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: and the lead who just dumped me is flying high
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: through the sky and we'll be back in no time
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: for dinner. Chris. We do remember this crying scene. And
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: just because we didn't get to see a lot of
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: you on the recap didn't mean that you didn't have
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: a big part in this season. You were in shambles.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Friend about this breakup? How long did that last? After? Like,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: how long did your feelings for Caitlin Linger I was
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: in shambles. I would say that the the feelings for
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: King Kate lingered about two weeks and then I got
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: back and I was like, you know what, I know
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: who the winner is going to be, and that's the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: right match. At at the moment, Caitlyn and I were
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: just friends. When you're wrapped up in the bachelorette world,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: every you know, all the emotions are riding high, but
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: you're also isolated, and so this becomes your one central focus.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: When you get back to reality, you're like, wait a minute,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: I'm okay, right, okay. You made a grand introduction though
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: with the cupcake car. That really will be in bachelor
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: montages for the rest of the show's broadcast whenever that
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: may be right. Talk to us lasting and depression. Talk
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: to us about how the idea came about to have
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: you being a cupcake car. Well, my whole thing was
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: how are people going to find me interesting on this show.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'm a dentist, and to me, that's something that most
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: people kind of dread going to the dentist and he's
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: probably some guy who's pretty nerdy, which is true, but um,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: I needed to stand out, So what's better than to
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: think of a bad like dental. So I decided to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: do something quote very sweet for Caitlin and at the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: time for it, which was to roll up in a cupcake.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: And uh, I thought that that was going to be
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: the end of it. But then, of course Tanner decided
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: to start calling a cupcake and then it's stuck all
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: the way to five years later. I know I kill
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: that because, like, we know that you don't like being
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: called cupcake, and yet it's what I call you. It's okay,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I understand. I'm blessed and grateful that I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: got to be a part of the experience. I got
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: to meet the perfect Ben and I have friends. So
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: if that's my name, then so be it. Man, it
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: is it is wild to look back on this. We've
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: been talking to Ben Zorn and Jared and then myself
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: kind of about this this season, and I asked Jared
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: the same question, is it weird looking back now after
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the recap has aired and seeing the pictures that have
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: kind of surfaced from the contestants, what are your emotions
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: like looking back on this time in your life, it
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: was I mean it's serious nostalgia. I mean that was
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: a time when we all took a break from our
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: phones and from reality and we were just present and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: we were up against this adventure. We had no idea
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: what it would amount to. You know, Instagram was not
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: really a part of the show until you know, probably
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: actually season and then our season. We're the first kind
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: of era. So really it was just a special time.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: We made friends, we got to go on with this
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: crazy adventure, and for me it was all positive. I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: mean I didn't partake in much of the drama. Then
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think you really did either, so you probably
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: just had a all positive experiences during the filming. So Chris,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you know, didn't end up with Caitlin, became really good
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: friends with Caitlin, cleaned Caitlyn's teeth many times. Um. But
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: now has found another love in his life. And you've
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: been with her for almost two years now, huh yeah,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: coming up on two years, um back and I've been
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: dating for year and a half, almost two years, So
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: it's been great. She's a a wonderful person, really just
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: a positive kind heart, and you know it's with opening
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: my gental practice. It's been kind of like tough, working
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: a lot, but she's always been very supportive and I'm
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: very grateful for Well, Chris, We're happy for you, man.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: It's always good to see that smiling face. Years still,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, the best looking man to ever come
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: through the Bachelor franchise. Dr Chris Strandberg, thank you for
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: joining us on the Almost Famous podcast. We look forward
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: to talking to you soon. That's funny that you say that, Ben,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: because I feel like Cupcake is definitely the person that
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Jared holds as like the standard of good looking in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the franchise. He's She's like that guy is really good looking,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: but like, is you better looking than Cupcake? And then
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: it's always a debate he's such a good looking dude. Well, actually,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: this has been nothing but fun for me to see
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: friends and to reminisce with friends. Uh. It's always great
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: to celebrate really awesome people. And this week we are
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: celebrating Caitlin Bristow because I think she is a terrific human,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: a terrific bachelorette. And we can't leave this podcast without
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: saying congratulations to Caitlin because at the end of this episode,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: we find out that Caitlin Bristow is getting her dream.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it really has been her dream and she's built,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: she's made for it to be on Dance with the Stars.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: She's totally made for I am so excited. How fun
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: was it to watch her reaction and how sweet Jason
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: was responding as well, he just knows it's her dream,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: and yeah, I'm super stoked. It's it's a huge deal.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: She's going to do great. I mean she is a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: professional dancer. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome. Good for Caitlin.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Four and a half five years later, Caitlin Bristow is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: still at the top and we have nothing. We just
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: want to celebrate that here. So hey, oh to Caitlin
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Bristow this week. Great men on her season. They were
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: just a terrific friendships that were built. But with that,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: this has been the Almost Famous podcast and I've been
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: been and I've been Ashley. We'll be back doing a
• 1:06:45
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• 1:06:47
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• 1:06:52
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