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Dan Farah & Jay Stratton · On with Mario Interviews

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  Speaker 1: You're on with Mario Lopez.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone, Mario Lopez.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me right now in studio, Director Dan Farah and
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  Speaker 1: former Director of the Government's UAP Task Force, Mr.
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  Speaker 2: Jay Stratton. How you gentlemen doing?
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  Speaker 3: Great. Thanks for having us, Mario.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Awesome. Thanks for being here.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you taking the time.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It appears the age of disclosure regarding UFOs and aliens
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  Speaker 1: is upon us. Why do you guys think the government
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  Speaker 1: is being so open about this now? By the way,
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  Speaker 1: for those who haven't seen the documentary is excellent. Dan
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  Speaker 1: happened to have directed it. And even if you're not
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  Speaker 1: into aliens or UFOs or what have you, it's really fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: But why all of a sudden is everyone discussing it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll jump, Jay, I'll jump in with that one.
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  Speaker 5: So, look, I directed and produced The Age of Disclosure,
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  Speaker 5: this very eye-opening documentary, came out end of last year.
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  Speaker 5: I interviewed 34 very high-level military government intelligence officials, ranging
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  Speaker 5: from Secretary Rubio to senators on both sides of the aisle, generals, admirals,
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  Speaker 5: White House National Security Council members.
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  Speaker 3: And the people who led our.
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  Speaker 5: Government's classified programs to investigate UAP. And it was the
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  Speaker 5: process of making that movie That led to me meeting
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  Speaker 5: Jay Stratton. Jay is the most senior intelligence official to
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  Speaker 5: ever investigate UAP for the United States government. He did
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  Speaker 5: it for a little over 16 years while we were
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  Speaker 5: in post on the dock. Jay and I became close and,
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  Speaker 5: you know. He had dropped a lot of bombshell information
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  Speaker 5: in the documentary.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of the main interview subjects.
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  Speaker 5: But I knew from getting to know him that there
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  Speaker 5: was so much more he could say if he had
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  Speaker 5: the platform to do it and the forum to do it.
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  Speaker 5: The best way to convey 16 years of significant information
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  Speaker 5: with context and detail is in a book, even more
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  Speaker 5: so than a movie. And so I helped Jay get
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  Speaker 5: a book deal with Harper Collins and the opportunity to
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  Speaker 5: tell his story in detail. And that book came out
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  Speaker 5: last week. It's called Out of the Shadows, debuted at
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  Speaker 5: number two on the New York Times bestsellers list. And
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  Speaker 5: I think the answer to your original question is the
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  Speaker 5: impact of the documentary and the impact of this book
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  Speaker 5: have really escalated the conversation and taken it to the
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  Speaker 5: national level. And not only is it driven by cultural
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  Speaker 5: change and the tone of the conversation around UFOs. But
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  Speaker 5: it's driven real change inside of government. And it's really
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  Speaker 5: hard to drive change inside of government. And this year,
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  Speaker 5: as a result of the documentary, The Age of Disclosure,
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  Speaker 5: and also as a result of Jay's book, which has
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  Speaker 5: been in the works for a while, the government has
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  Speaker 5: started an official disclosure process. It started in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of February. And so it's unfolding in our lifetime. The
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  Speaker 5: truth is coming out, and it is a real situation.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, and it's impossible to ignore now. This is so fascinating. Jay,
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  Speaker 1: congratulations on the book, by the way. Out of the
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  Speaker 1: Shadows is.
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  Speaker 2: The name of it.
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  Speaker 1: It goes really deep into everything Dan was essentially talking
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  Speaker 1: about right here. And your career in government, investigating these
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  Speaker 1: sort of topics, what kinds.
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  Speaker 2: Of things are we going to learn from this book?
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  Speaker 2: What are you talking about in it?
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  Speaker 6: Well, The book takes you on a behind-the-scenes journey of
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  Speaker 6: my 16-plus years investigating non-human intelligent life and UAP on
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  Speaker 6: behalf of the government. I get into detail about previously
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  Speaker 6: unknown cases over U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Military bases.
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  Speaker 6: I dive deep into the recovered craft and the things
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  Speaker 6: that I've seen and are aware of.
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  Speaker 4: Details. I don't hold back on this book. I get
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  Speaker 4: deep into....
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  Speaker 6: The truth about the government's efforts to lure in UAP,
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  Speaker 6: the extent of the cover-up, and details on encounters with
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  Speaker 6: non-human intelligent life. You know, I get into both my
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  Speaker 6: experience personally encountering non-human intelligent life, but also what the
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  Speaker 6: government knows and is aware of on that front. And finally,
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  Speaker 6: the modern UAP programs. I get into the detailed history
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  Speaker 6: of that and tell you about that journey over the
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  Speaker 6: 16 plus years of getting the government to a position
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  Speaker 6: where We're at the point where the president issued that
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  Speaker 6: historic directive. I mean, it's amazing that we're where we're
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  Speaker 6: at and all we can do is keep putting the
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  Speaker 6: pressure on.
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  Speaker 1: It really is amazing because now we're having this open dialogue.
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  Speaker 1: People are obviously learning and want to ask even more questions.
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  Speaker 1: The most famous crash, I'd say, from from the layman
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  Speaker 1: here is probably Roswell back in 1947.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Did that really happen, Jay?
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 6: And I detail in the book conversations with a senior
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  Speaker 6: executive of one of the big defense contractors who told
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  Speaker 6: me about the legacy program, which is this effort to
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  Speaker 6: retrieve and reverse engineer craft of non-human origin. And it's
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  Speaker 6: led by the CIA with support from the Air Force,
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  Speaker 6: the Department of Energy and the defense contractors. And this,
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  Speaker 6: you know, 80 year plus cover up of that reality
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  Speaker 6: from both the public, but also Congress and the president.
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  Speaker 1: Who's flying these UAPs? Are they these gray aliens? Are
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  Speaker 1: they reptilians? Do you have knowledge of who's actually manning these?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 6: Unfortunately, I can tell you without a doubt, we are
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  Speaker 6: not the only intelligent life in the universe. And we
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  Speaker 6: don't know the intent of that non-human intelligent life that's here.
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  Speaker 6: And that is very concerning for me. We have ongoing
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  Speaker 6: activity right now over US nuclear sites and sensitive military
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  Speaker 6: sites and safety of flight concerns for both military and
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  Speaker 6: civilian aviation. So that should wake everyone up to the
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  Speaker 6: fact that, hey, we've got concerns. We don't know the intent.
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  Speaker 6: And no, I don't know who's at the steering wheel.
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  Speaker 5: But I'll tell you, Mario, something happened last week that's
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  Speaker 5: very relevant to Jay's story. So in his book, he
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  Speaker 5: talks about the UAP event that first brought him down
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  Speaker 5: this line of investigation. It was in 2005. He was
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  Speaker 5: working as the chief of air and space warfare in
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  Speaker 5: the Defense Intelligence Agency. His job was to know everything
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  Speaker 5: we have in air and space, our adversaries have in
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  Speaker 5: air and space, and including the stuff we have on
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  Speaker 5: the roadmap in our classified programs, things that are being
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  Speaker 5: built secretly that will exist publicly in 50 years. He
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  Speaker 5: had knowledge of all that so that if there was
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  Speaker 5: ever an unknown, he could identify it. He could put
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  Speaker 5: it in one of those boxes. That's an adversaries technology device.
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  Speaker 5: That's our technology. That's our secret technology, right? And one day,
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  Speaker 5: one of his colleagues pulls him into a room and
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  Speaker 5: shows him a video taken by a few Air Force
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  Speaker 5: security guards on a military base at a nuke site.
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  Speaker 3: And the video was of a triangle-shaped UAP, a triangle.
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  Speaker 5: Craft with no wings, no means of propulsion, lights in
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  Speaker 5: each corner, no windows, matte black other than the lights
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  Speaker 5: in the corners. And it was hovering over the missile
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  Speaker 5: site and performing in a way that no known aerospace
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  Speaker 5: technology can do, right?
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be defying our physics.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's defying our physics as Jay knew it.
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  Speaker 5: And that was what led him down the road of
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  Speaker 5: investigating this issue. And I say it's relevant to something
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  Speaker 5: that happened last week, because last week, the government released
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  Speaker 5: its seventh tranche of UAP evidence in this disclosure rollout process.
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  Speaker 5: And on Friday, in that seventh tranche was an FBI
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  Speaker 5: report that Where two current federal agents, this isn't historical,
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  Speaker 5: this is a few months ago, right?
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  Speaker 3: Two federal agents witnessed with their.
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  Speaker 5: Own eyes a triangle craft hovering, to fit the exact
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  Speaker 5: description Jay saw in 2005, hovering over a sensitive military
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  Speaker 5: site in the western United States.
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  Speaker 3: Part of the United States.
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  Speaker 5: And this thing took off with instant acceleration and was
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  Speaker 5: gone in the blink of an eye. And these two
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  Speaker 5: federal agents, real deal, active FBI agents, put their name
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  Speaker 5: and reputation on the line and filed an official report
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  Speaker 5: describing in detail what they saw. And that report was
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  Speaker 5: released by the federal government on Friday and declassified so
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  Speaker 5: that the public can start to become aware of this situation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you have footage like that in your film, too.
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  Speaker 1: And you see these pilots sort of commenting on that.
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  Speaker 1: Has the government, Jay, ever recovered an alien body? yes
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  Speaker 1: they have oh yes that's good one that's worth reading
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  Speaker 1: right there so.
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  Speaker 2: They have and they have and they've done what with it.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know well yeah well based on my knowledge
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  Speaker 6: they have uh We've had both live and dead and
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  Speaker 6: have obviously performed medical examinations of both. So it's pretty
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  Speaker 6: interesting to know that history exists that no one knows about.
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  Speaker 4: And I thought it was important to bring that forward
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  Speaker 4: and talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 5: I asked people who had knowledge of recoveries when I
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  Speaker 5: was making my documentary. I asked, you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: it's an obvious question the average person would have, which is,
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  Speaker 5: you know, what are these what are these beings look
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  Speaker 5: like and do they all look the same? And, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the extent to which people were willing to go with
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  Speaker 5: me was making it clear that the bodies do not
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  Speaker 5: all look the same, meaning.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 5: The presumed, the assumption is that there are different species,
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  Speaker 5: multiple species that are here and have been here for
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  Speaker 5: a long time.
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  Speaker 2: That is trippy. That makes your hair stand up, right?
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  Speaker 2: They're just hearing it.
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  Speaker 1: Jay, in the beginning of your book, you revealed that
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  Speaker 1: you actually had a gray alien standing outside the window
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  Speaker 1: of your house, correct? Something along those lines?
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And that window's nine feet off the ground.
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  Speaker 6: So whether standing on the ground or if it's.
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  Speaker 4: Floating there, I don't know. But I absolutely witnessed it.
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  Speaker 6: We made eye contact and I went out the front
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  Speaker 6: door trying to chase the thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: An interesting context around that.
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  Speaker 3: So, you know, the listeners know.
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  Speaker 5: Jay had never had activity at his house until he
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  Speaker 5: started looking into non-human intelligent life and UAP on behalf
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  Speaker 5: of the US government at a very senior level. And
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  Speaker 5: when he started looking into them, it seems they started
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  Speaker 5: looking into him. And it wasn't just him. Other colleagues
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  Speaker 5: involved in his program were having activity at their houses
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  Speaker 5: as well.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Is they collectively were looking into non-human intelligent life and
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  Speaker 5: non-human intelligent life started looking into them. And this wasn't
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  Speaker 5: just stuff that Jay saw. His wife and two kids
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  Speaker 5: saw this activity as well. And he goes into great
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  Speaker 5: detail about that in the book. It's pretty damn eye-opening
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  Speaker 5: and shocking.
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  Speaker 1: Have you guys heard of the conspiracy project Blue Beam
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  Speaker 1: regarding NASA and using technology to fake an alien invasion?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard of it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't believe it at all.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so just people out there telling tall tales and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Jay? There's a lot of fake news online about this topic,
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  Speaker 5: especially on social media and mostly on X. It was
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  Speaker 5: one of the big reasons I wanted to make the doc,
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  Speaker 5: and I know Jay wanted to write the book to–
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  Speaker 5: put forth credible, serious information on this topic.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you have credible, serious people on it.
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  Speaker 1: You have credible, serious people speaking to it. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: you can't get more serious than the people involved there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, look, Secretary Rubio is one of the main guys
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  Speaker 5: in my doc. Now he's arguably the second most powerful
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  Speaker 5: guy in the world. He's the National Security Advisor and
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  Speaker 5: the Secretary of State. And he took this topic very
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  Speaker 5: seriously ever since he was a senator on the Senate
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  Speaker 5: Intelligence Committee and learning in a classified setting about the
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  Speaker 5: reality of this situation.
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  Speaker 7: Aren't the people who are doing this, though, really just unaccountable,
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  Speaker 7: the people in the special access programs? They're completely unaccountable
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  Speaker 7: to anyone.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the problem right now.
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  Speaker 6: Exactly, but not the line of our republic, right? They're
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  Speaker 6: supposed to be accountable to Congress and the people.
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  Speaker 7: Well, they're supposed to be, but they're clearly not accountable
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  Speaker 7: to anyone. And is the reason that a lot of
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  Speaker 7: disclosure hasn't happened probably because they've committed a lot of
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  Speaker 7: illegal activities, including misappropriating funds?
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  Speaker 5: There's a lot of reasons driving the secrecy. I would
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  Speaker 5: argue disclosure is happening right now. I think disclosure began
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  Speaker 5: with the release of my documentary last year, and it's
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  Speaker 5: continuing with the president's directive issued in February, the pursue effort,
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  Speaker 5: which is releasing declassifying evidence and.
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  Speaker 3: With Jay's book. I mean, look, Jay coming forward.
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  Speaker 5: In the way that he does, in such a tell-all way,
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  Speaker 5: that is disclosure. I mean, he's literally the most senior
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  Speaker 5: intelligence official to investigate this for the United States government
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  Speaker 5: at a classified level. When he retired, he was equivalent
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  Speaker 5: of a two-star admiral. That's disclosure. So I think disclosure
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  Speaker 5: is happening. But in terms of the reasons for the
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  Speaker 5: secrecy around this historically, there's a number of reasons.
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  Speaker 3: One, you get a.
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  Speaker 5: Lot of power out of holding information, right? In that arena,
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  Speaker 5: in the intelligence community and military, the people who are
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  Speaker 5: gatekeeping these secrets, they're benefiting from being the only ones
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  Speaker 5: with access to that information. There's a lot of technological
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  Speaker 5: advancements that can be gleamed off the back of non-human technology.
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  Speaker 5: And right now, those advancements are only being gleamed by
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  Speaker 5: a few people, right? A limited amount of people, not
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  Speaker 5: literally a few, but a short list of people, right?
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  Speaker 5: And so they benefit from that. It's not human nature
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  Speaker 5: for anyone to want to give up their power and
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  Speaker 5: control that can benefit them.
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  Speaker 3: Right. So that's first. Second thing, there was a historical
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  Speaker 3: fear that.
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  Speaker 5: If the gatekeepers of this information inside of the United
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  Speaker 5: States government share that information.
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  Speaker 3: With the public, they're also sharing it with our adversaries.
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  Speaker 5: And there was a fear of giving our adversaries some
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  Speaker 5: sort of strategic.
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  Speaker 3: Advantage by learning what we know and don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And that's there's some logic to that.
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  Speaker 5: The third big thing is the this this idea that
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  Speaker 5: the public can't handle the truth, that it's just too overwhelming.
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  Speaker 5: It's like too much of a departure from the reality.
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  Speaker 1: Real quick, though, Frazier, just to piggyback on what you
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  Speaker 1: said right there. Dan, as far as how is the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the world, how does China, Russia, how does
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the world sort of align with this
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  Speaker 1: thinking right now?
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  Speaker 2: Is there a lot of cohesion?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll say one thing to kick the J, but
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  Speaker 3: the one thing is.
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  Speaker 5: We have been in a high-stakes secret Cold War race
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  Speaker 5: with our adversaries like Russia and China on this for
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  Speaker 5: a long time. They have their own programs. They are
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  Speaker 5: retrieving crashed UAP. They are reverse engineering them. And this
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  Speaker 5: technology race, as Jay puts it in my documentary and
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  Speaker 5: in his book, it's really like the Manhattan Project on steroids.
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  Speaker 5: The stakes couldn't be higher. It's like the nuclear race
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  Speaker 5: on steroids. And with regard to.
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  Speaker 5: Telling the public, that's a really interesting thing that's in
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  Speaker 5: play right now, which is our government is realizing if
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  Speaker 5: we don't start disclosing and, and sharing information with the
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  Speaker 5: public in a, in a transparent way soon, we run
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  Speaker 5: the risk of waking up one day and she or
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  Speaker 5: Putin being the one to tell the world, we're not
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  Speaker 5: alone in the universe and, and them being the leaders
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  Speaker 5: of this new chapter for humanity. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 5: all that sort of, um, You know, the gaming out
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  Speaker 5: of how this could play out is really being discussed
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  Speaker 5: at the highest levels of our government right now.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you got to have to remember that this
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  Speaker 6: technology can change the world, you know, to solve the
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  Speaker 6: world's hardest problems. But it can also be used to
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  Speaker 6: make weapons of mass destruction. So you have to be
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  Speaker 6: very careful with it.
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  Speaker 7: Also, if the technology has been recovered and reverse engineered,
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  Speaker 7: how much of the stuff that people are seeing is
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  Speaker 7: actually the government?
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jay, in your in your years.
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  Speaker 1: Working as the director of the UAP task force, how
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  Speaker 1: much of the going back to the rest of the world,
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  Speaker 1: do they have their own Roswell incidents?
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  Speaker 2: Do they have a lot of. So, oh, they do.
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  Speaker 2: You're shaking your head.
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. There's historic cases. You think about Russia, China, big
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  Speaker 6: land masses. Lots of space, right?
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  Speaker 2: Right, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. The same types of crashes and recoveries have happened there.
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  Speaker 2: This is great.
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  Speaker 1: Your book sounds incredibly fascinating, and I can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: check it out. If you haven't seen both the documentary
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  Speaker 1: or the book, everyone, please be sure to check out
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  Speaker 1: Dan's documentary, The Age of Disclosure, right now on Amazon Prime,
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  Speaker 1: and Jay's new book, Out of the Shadow's I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: it'll answer any questions in the space.
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  Speaker 2: Really, really, really fascinating. And it's available everywhere. Gentlemen, we
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  Speaker 2: can keep talking forever, but this is great. Great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Really appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, Mario. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: You got it.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks, brother. I appreciate it.