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USMNT vs Bosnia Round of 32: Full Scouting Report, Preview & Predictions · Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogert and Tab Ramos

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Speaker 1: Now that we get into the second round to change
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Speaker 1: our formation and go to three forwards, so.
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Speaker 2: Anyone kept play, So now you're here.
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Speaker 3: Now we're going three up top for this one.
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Speaker 1: We're getting a little bit more aggressive in the second round.
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Speaker 3: I like it, you know, because we could have gone
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Speaker 3: defensive and we didn't. We're going We're going on attack board.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Everybody?
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Speaker 4: Welcome back to Inside American Soccer. I am USM and
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Speaker 4: T insider Tom Bogert, and I'm joined as always by
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Speaker 4: tab Ramos, one of the greatest players in the US
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Speaker 4: soccer history, and we've got a three man weave today
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Speaker 4: as we have special guests in Matt Doyle, our friend,
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Speaker 4: the Armshore analyst himself, to break down the United States
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Speaker 4: Firs Bosi at Herzegovina in the round of thirty two
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Speaker 4: at the World Cup before we get into the US.
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Speaker 4: My background, for those watching on YouTube or those we're
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Speaker 4: not is sad Airbnb art. Tab has got some lovely
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Speaker 4: hotel art and Doyle's in a studio. So, yeah, Doyle,
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Speaker 4: what's going on here?
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Speaker 2: You didn't get the memo? Why aren't you trying?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm the big shot of the panel.
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Speaker 5: Now in this professional setup in midtown Manhattan, we've been
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Speaker 5: doing a show on soccer Wise every morning at nine
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Speaker 5: thirty am, Me Goss and rotating crew of chuckleheads breaking
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Speaker 5: down the World Cup.
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Speaker 2: It's like a dream job.
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Speaker 5: You get up and you watch highlights, you refresh yourself
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Speaker 5: on the games that happened yesterday. Because I don't know
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Speaker 5: about you guys have been having a couple of beers
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Speaker 5: every single game, so like, maybe not all the fine
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Speaker 5: moments is getting through, and then you talk about soccer
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Speaker 5: for an hour, hour and a half every day.
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Speaker 2: It's just perfect. Tap gets to be calling the game.
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Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, well, I mean, first of all, Matt,
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Speaker 1: it's great to have you on and you know, and
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Speaker 1: I think this was time's coll to now that we
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Speaker 1: get into the second round to change our formation and
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Speaker 1: go to three forwards.
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Speaker 2: So anyone could play.
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Speaker 3: So now you're here.
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Speaker 1: Now we're going three up top for this one. We're
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Speaker 1: getting a little bit more aggressive in the second round.
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Speaker 1: I like it, you know, because we could have gone
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Speaker 1: defensive and we didn't. We're going We're going on a
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Speaker 1: tack mode. Got to go for it, that's what we're
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Speaker 1: so thank you for that.
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Speaker 4: On today's show, we're gonna dive into the Bosie and
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Speaker 4: Herzegovina matchup with a scouting report and a preview. We're
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Speaker 4: gonna talk tactics. That's why Doyle is here to shine
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Speaker 4: in that segment. How will this team try to break
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Speaker 4: down the Bosie defense? What can we expect, what can
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Speaker 4: they do? And then of course tabs, DraftKings, match predictions.
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Speaker 4: But first let's start with a little bit of news
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Speaker 4: off the top Mariso Pochattino and his future with the
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Speaker 4: US national team.
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Speaker 2: Adam Crafton of The Athletic.
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Speaker 4: Reported that Riso Pochatino had been offered a contract by
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Speaker 4: the US Soccer Federation that could see him remain the
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Speaker 4: coach in twenty thirty if he so chooses. This news
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Speaker 4: came out after the group stage ended, after the Turkey
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Speaker 4: A game, within a few days. I want to be
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Speaker 4: clear on the timing here, guys. This deal was offered
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Speaker 4: before the World Cup. This is not a reacting to
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Speaker 4: the group stage. This was discussed and offered before the
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Speaker 4: World Cup. We only just found out now. So all
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Speaker 4: of that being said, and and Pochettino said, we're you know,
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Speaker 4: we're not gonna address this. We're not going to really
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Speaker 4: talk about it as well after the World Cup. Let's
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Speaker 4: focus on the tournament and then we'll figure it out
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Speaker 4: after so table, I'll start with you, is there, I guess,
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Speaker 4: any surprise or do you think this was more of
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Speaker 4: a formality of you don't really any program. You don't
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Speaker 4: have a head coach that is out of contract with
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Speaker 4: no real offer or potential future for kind of squad
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Speaker 4: harmony and not undermining his authority though I don't think
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Speaker 4: that was out worry with Pochettino. But do you think
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Speaker 4: that this is a real possibility that he sticks around
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Speaker 4: or is this just hey kind of what you do.
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Speaker 4: Both sides are going to talk about it and then
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Speaker 4: nothing will come Well.
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Speaker 1: You know, it always surprises me when when countries make
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Speaker 1: offers to coaches right before the World Cup and it
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Speaker 1: happens a lot. Right, Jesse already you know, signed with
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Speaker 1: Canada for the next four years, you know, I remember
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Speaker 1: before we went to twenty fourteen World Cup, Jurgen had
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Speaker 1: gotten a new deal and had resigned for you know,
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Speaker 1: for another period of time. I think it's pretty normal
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Speaker 1: to offer a coach, but I also would have to
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Speaker 1: say raise your hand. If you think Pochettino is going
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Speaker 1: to be with us for four years, it's just not
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Speaker 1: going to happen. It's really not going to happen. And so,
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Speaker 1: so two things I'll say about that. One is that
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Speaker 1: even if he does sign a contract, we'll be looking
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Speaker 1: for a coach in about a year or a year
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Speaker 1: and a half, right, so we'll have to start over
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Speaker 1: at some point. And the second thing would be that
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Speaker 1: are we making the same mistake again? Because remember we
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Speaker 1: hired Burholter before we hired Ernie Stewart, right, And so
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Speaker 1: if we're looking at some point to replace Matt Crocker,
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Speaker 1: shouldn't we start with the top, with somebody who sets
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Speaker 1: the tone for what we.
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Speaker 3: Want this to be.
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Speaker 1: Because and by the way, I'm not saying, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I'll get to the next thing, but you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's necessarily wrong.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying it hasn't been.
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Speaker 1: Good for us that way, doing it backwards, and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's right. I'm on the outside looking in, obviously,
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Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like it's right because now you're
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Speaker 1: going to have to hire a sporting director that fits
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Speaker 1: with what the coaches thinking and likely the coach is
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Speaker 1: not going to be here in two years anyway, So
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Speaker 1: I think the first hire at US Soccer should be
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Speaker 1: your sporting director and then you take it from there.
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Speaker 1: You know, you have four years. You know, we waited
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Speaker 1: for Burholter. How many times for like you know, one
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Speaker 1: we waited for a year, one time, we waited for
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Speaker 1: six months another time. So we could we could wait
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Speaker 1: two months after the World Cup higher a sporting director
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Speaker 1: and then go for the coach.
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Speaker 3: And I think to me, that would be what what
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Speaker 3: would make sense?
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Speaker 1: And by the way, and we're not discussing at all
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Speaker 1: whether we would want to Shatino back or not, because
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Speaker 1: if this offer was made before the World Cup started,
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Speaker 1: I mean we're still guessing our lineup.
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Speaker 3: We're hoping that we're going to get it right this time.
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Speaker 3: So so you know, I think there's.
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Speaker 1: A lot of points and discussions there, but there's no
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Speaker 1: question that to me, it seems like there's no reason
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Speaker 1: to do it backwards.
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Speaker 4: I would you, I was going to say to hit
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Speaker 4: to his point, like even taking away I think all
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Speaker 4: of those correct factors. If we're just down to in
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Speaker 4: a vacuum, would you want Pochettino to be this team's
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Speaker 4: head coach for the foreseeable future, even if it's midterm,
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Speaker 4: not totally for the four years, because I think we
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Speaker 4: all think he'll end up with a club job at
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Speaker 4: some point. That being said, is that something that you'd
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Speaker 4: be in favor of, even stripping away all the other
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Speaker 4: necessary context? No, because I don't think you can strip
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Speaker 4: away either.
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Speaker 2: The context or the history.
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Speaker 5: The context is as soon as he signs that contract,
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Speaker 5: his eye is going to start wandering towards you know,
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Speaker 5: if I mean this is a guy who wants to
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Speaker 5: manage Real Madrid. He doesn't want to manage the US
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Speaker 5: national team for four years, So he's going to have
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Speaker 5: a wandering eye the whole time, and that is going
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Speaker 5: to be destabilizing. But the history is in nineteen ninety four,
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Speaker 5: the US got to the round of sixteen, gave Bora
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Speaker 5: an extension, had the worst gear in the modern program's history,
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Speaker 5: and he was gone by the summer of nineteen ninety five.
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Speaker 5: Two thousand and two, Bruce obviously does a great job,
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Speaker 5: gets to the quarterfinals, he gets an extension, has a
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Speaker 5: really good time in qualifying in two thousand and six,
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Speaker 5: but not such a great time at the World Cup itself.
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Speaker 5: Bob takes over in two thousand and seven, does really
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Speaker 5: well throughout that cycle. Good performance at the twenty ten
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Speaker 5: World Cup, especially when you consider the injuries to Goots
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Speaker 5: and Charlie Davies, gets the extension fired within a year.
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Speaker 5: Jurgen twenty fourteen, they hit their benchmarks and getting out
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Speaker 5: of the group stage gets the extension. Miserable twenty fifteen
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Speaker 5: gone at the start of qualifying in twenty sixteen. Greg
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Speaker 5: twenty eighteen is hired, and I think a really good
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Speaker 5: cycle in twenty twenty two gets the extension. And we
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Speaker 5: saw what happened in twenty twenty fourth. Because so we
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Speaker 5: have to stop being addicted to this nonsense where we
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Speaker 5: just automatically give the coach a second cycle. It has
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Speaker 5: never worked for us at a high level. Guys like
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Speaker 5: Yogi lov Are are few and far between. We need to,
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Speaker 5: as Tab said, get the sporting director in, get the
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Speaker 5: decision maker in, and then go down the list and
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Speaker 5: decide what the next cycle needs to bring. Don't just
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Speaker 5: automatically give it a punch. But I don't think he's
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Speaker 5: gonna take it anyway. So this is all moved.
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Speaker 1: Well you know, I think I'm sorry if I could
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Speaker 1: just ask one thing to say, because you just mentioned
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Speaker 1: the sporting director again, I think we have to look
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Speaker 1: at two who made the decision to do that, because
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Speaker 1: you know, we we had JT. Batson on this show
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Speaker 1: and he basically talked about business, the business of US soccer,
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Speaker 1: how great business is for US soccer and anytime anything
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Speaker 1: comes out of US Soccer it's business. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: haven't heard Cindy Cohene speak about soccer once, at least
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Speaker 1: when it has has to do with with the men's
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Speaker 1: national team. I haven't heard one thing, So I would
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Speaker 1: dig into it. And I'm not saying that whoever made
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Speaker 1: the decision is wrong. Maybe they know a lot more
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Speaker 1: than I do for sure, But I'm saying, can we
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Speaker 1: find out where that decision is coming from, like who's
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Speaker 1: making it if we don't have a sporting director?
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Speaker 4: I would agree, and like you said, things should be
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Speaker 4: kind of aligned. And if you hire a sporting director
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Speaker 4: for a program, the biggest thing that that person oversees
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Speaker 4: is the coaching search. So in some ways it's because
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Speaker 4: it's a long term strategy position, not a day to
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Speaker 4: day thing. So if Pochettina stays and you hire a
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Speaker 4: sporting director, kind of what does that person do right?
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Speaker 4: All the other tasks kind of pay on comparison, I
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Speaker 4: will say that Pochettino is he's got the personality.
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Speaker 2: To be the face of a national team for a while.
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Speaker 4: Like that's kind of what I liked about him coming
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Speaker 4: into this job, that I think his cult to personality
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Speaker 4: in a good way would be fitting for a national
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Speaker 4: team manager, even though he hadn't done that before. But
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Speaker 4: I agree with everything you guys have said about just
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Speaker 4: one cycle in general and in particularly Pochettino. Like I
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Speaker 4: don't know, maybe there's a way that he would sign
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Speaker 4: a contract that has buyouts for specific teams that could
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Speaker 4: get him out of his contract. But then to your
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Speaker 4: point is well, if you're just gonna do a coaching
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Speaker 4: search in a year or potentially if he's leaving on
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Speaker 4: his own time. The further away from this twenty twenty
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Speaker 4: six World Cup get towards twenty thirty, the harder and
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Speaker 4: more high wire it is to replace a head coach,
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Speaker 4: So a clean break after the World Cup in a
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Speaker 4: positive way, hopefully if they go as far as maybe
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Speaker 4: we think they could, He's viewed as a hero and
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Speaker 4: then he moves on and everybody's proud about the relationship
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Speaker 4: that was.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know.
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Speaker 4: I think it had to be Doue with more formula likely.
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Speaker 4: But if you're Pochatino, this ain't a bad wag. And
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Speaker 4: if that real Madrid job ain't open, if a couple
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Speaker 4: other jobs ain't open, like Milanja just got filled like
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Speaker 4: that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. If
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Speaker 4: you're Pochatino for the next six months to stay as
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Speaker 4: the US national team at coach. But that will be
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Speaker 4: discussed at length. I am certain after the World Cup
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Speaker 4: when those talks continue. Let's talk about the knockout run guys.
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Speaker 4: Bosian hurts Goo Vino. They finished third after their draw
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Speaker 4: with Canada. They get through in Group A. They lost
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Speaker 4: to Switzerland for one, but the decisive decisive day was
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Speaker 4: them beating Qatar. Tap We've got Bosia in the round
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Speaker 4: of thirty two in Santa Clara, California.
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Speaker 2: Give us the sky report.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know, as I always do, when we
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Speaker 1: talked a little bit about teams, we always want to
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Speaker 1: inform our fans a little bit about, you know, the
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Speaker 1: history of these of these national teams because it's not
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Speaker 1: forget that Bosnia just gained their independence in nineteen ninety two,
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Speaker 1: so they weren't so there's not a whole lot of history,
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Speaker 1: although they've been playing obviously from the old Yugoslavia. You know,
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Speaker 1: this is this is one of the traditional countries of
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Speaker 1: the world.
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Speaker 3: But we can't look back at the history.
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Speaker 1: Because they're independence as Bosnia was starting in nineteen ninety two.
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Speaker 1: They made it as Bosgnia as to one World Cup
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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen, in which they won one game. They
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Speaker 1: beat Iran in that World Cup, but they didn't advance
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Speaker 1: out of the group. So now, as most people will know,
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Speaker 1: they went into the playoff in Europe to qualify to
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Speaker 1: this World Cup and knocked off Italy, which is no
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Speaker 1: small fee, although it's becoming smaller and smaller.
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Speaker 3: This feat, but it's still no smokey beat Italy and.
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Speaker 1: Uh and they did it deservingly. They actually won the game,
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Speaker 1: you know, they dominated the game. They won on penalties.
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Speaker 1: Uh As me or as Meir, uh Birep Torevitch Barbin.
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Speaker 3: Though I coached them, I can't say the name.
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Speaker 1: Still yeah, yeah, so as Meir scored the winning penalty,
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Speaker 1: which which is great. So a couple of things interesting
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Speaker 1: about this World Cup for them. They you know, they
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Speaker 1: started playing against Canada. They started in there what they
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Speaker 1: call more of a four four two, but it was
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Speaker 1: really a four five to one, which is a four
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Speaker 1: four one one. I don't want to make it too
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Speaker 1: complicated obviously for listeners, but they're basically a four five one,
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Speaker 1: you know, with somebody at the point of that five
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Speaker 1: but behind czecho Uh. They started the tournament with Luke
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Speaker 1: Kitch up front, but against Canada, really they they they
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Speaker 1: didn't start the start out well, didn't create a lot
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Speaker 1: of opportunities. Had their two best chances of the game
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Speaker 1: were on too long throwing, so we have to be
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Speaker 1: careful for that because they have pretty tall guys and
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Speaker 1: uh and they can take and they can throw the
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Speaker 1: ball into the box. But in general they changed because
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Speaker 1: of I think the poor how poorly they played the
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Speaker 1: first game and how strong Switzerland was. They changed into
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Speaker 1: more of a you know, five to three to two
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Speaker 1: in the second game, which they would call a three
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Speaker 1: five two, but that didn't work either. Actually, they created
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Speaker 1: basically zero opportunities in the first two games. They ended
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Speaker 1: up getting a total of six shots on target, which
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Speaker 1: is just really abysmo really for a country that can
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Speaker 1: develop really skillful players. You know, you would think they
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Speaker 1: would play a little bit more on the on the
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Speaker 1: front foot, but they're they're not doing that. In the
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Speaker 1: third game against Guitar, things changed. They went back to
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Speaker 1: four in the back and they played more of a
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Speaker 1: four four two. Uh that's because Demerovich stepped up a
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Speaker 1: little bit more with Czecho, so it was more of
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Speaker 1: a two I would say, but but obviously you're also
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Speaker 1: playing guitar. Guitar was coming off a six to zero
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Speaker 1: lost to Canada, which you know, they were just a
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Speaker 1: team that was basically destroyed going into that last.
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Speaker 3: Game, but they won the game three one.
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Speaker 1: So in general, I would say what I expect against us,
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Speaker 1: they'll play in that four five one or four four.
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Speaker 3: One one they likely go with. And excuse my pronunciation
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Speaker 3: of all.
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Speaker 1: These names, but but I've done Turkey kind of the same.
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Speaker 1: So Vasili and the goal the goalkeeper from Saint Paul,
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Speaker 1: he has experienced. I think he'll be in there's no
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Speaker 1: question he'll be in goal. I think Deaditch will play
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Speaker 1: on the right side. Cattage in the middle. The Shaka
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Speaker 1: defender I think has been steady pretty much the whole time.
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Speaker 1: I personally, I'm not a fan. I think he's slow.
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Speaker 1: I think we can certainly get behind him. I think
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Speaker 1: although he plays every game, I don't think it's one
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Speaker 1: of their strength. Uh moohaded Mouha kim Merovic will be
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Speaker 1: the other center back. He's just a swallow defend under
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Speaker 1: uh He missed the game because he got a red
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Speaker 1: card the second game, so he missed the third, but
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Speaker 1: I think he'll be back in the lineup for this game.
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Speaker 1: On the left side will be uh it will be
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Speaker 1: Koleesinich from Atalanta. In the middle will be Tahirovich and
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Speaker 1: probably I would think Bassich will play next to him.
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Speaker 1: Uh and I and I think they'll go on on
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Speaker 1: one side with as Mir let's just call this mirror
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Speaker 1: will play on that side, and on the other side
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Speaker 1: will be i'd like Begovic, which is a really nice
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Speaker 1: young player actually, and and this is one we talk
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Speaker 1: he's jumped off.
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Speaker 3: We talked about the.
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Speaker 1: Players that could potentially we have to be careful with.
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Speaker 1: This is one because he's he's gonna be very unpredictable.
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Speaker 3: He dribbles to the inside with the right foot, as
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Speaker 3: his mirror will do from you know, from the right
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Speaker 3: side onto his left foot.
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Speaker 1: Uh. And then and then in in the middle of
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Speaker 1: all that, it will be the Mirovich and then Jack
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Speaker 1: go up top that. That's what I expect for them
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Speaker 1: to do against us, you know, in turn of like
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Speaker 1: their best players I just mentioned, like Bigovic as one
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Speaker 1: of them. Den Merovich will be the other because he's
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Speaker 1: hanging right behind Tohirovic in the middle of the field.
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Speaker 3: He's a very steady player.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: I like this player.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think if they're ever going to keep
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Speaker 1: the ball, he's going to be part of that. But
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Speaker 1: they just they really don't have the ball that much.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the possession that they
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Speaker 1: have in their games, it's very little. They're always under
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Speaker 1: forty percent. They sort of did the same in Europe too,
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Speaker 1: as they qualified. They're not a team that's just going
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Speaker 1: to dominate, although they did it against Italy. Against Italy
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Speaker 1: they had most of the ball. And then as Mir
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Speaker 1: will be the other one.
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Speaker 3: As Mira. I have to tell you from my.
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Speaker 1: Own experience with being on the side, you know, I
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Speaker 1: was assistant coach at New England when he was there,
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Speaker 1: and I had a couple of conversations with him about
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Speaker 1: he's so good on the dribble, he's so good taking
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Speaker 1: people and it's actually very easy for him to get
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Speaker 1: by a defender that I actually a couple of times
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Speaker 1: mentioned to him, you know what, the first few times
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Speaker 1: to get the ball just passed as a few times
17:00
Speaker 1: get the bull bay because the time when you dribble,
17:03
Speaker 1: you want it to you want to have the impact.
17:05
Speaker 3: So don't do it every time.
17:07
Speaker 1: Because anything that I think he needs to improve on
17:09
Speaker 1: is the fact that he actually wants to take people
17:12
Speaker 1: on every time and sometimes you have to.
17:14
Speaker 3: Mix it up. So can they uh to sum it up?
17:19
Speaker 3: Can they hurt us? And how would they hurt us?
17:21
Speaker 1: I think the way they can hurt us is the
17:23
Speaker 1: way we've known that our team can get hurt, and
17:26
Speaker 1: that's by combinations. Up the middle, up up the up
17:30
Speaker 1: the gut is where we can get hurt most most
17:32
Speaker 1: Turkey did it, Belgium did it, although Belgium also has
17:36
Speaker 1: obviously Doku Wi that.
17:37
Speaker 3: Can hurt you.
17:38
Speaker 1: But still I think we we hurt, as we've said
17:41
Speaker 1: in this show many times, with both matt On here
17:43
Speaker 1: and you tom On here. We've mentioned many times that
17:46
Speaker 1: the teams that can hurt the US are teams that
17:48
Speaker 1: can continue to have possession. Although we press them once
17:52
Speaker 1: we are our pressure is broken with that third pass
17:56
Speaker 1: completion and they go up the middle on us.
17:58
Speaker 3: We have difficulty.
18:00
Speaker 1: We don't take good angles in the back and it
18:03
Speaker 1: doesn't take much for other teams to get in our box.
18:06
Speaker 3: And that's where I think the danger is going to be.
18:09
Speaker 3: Although to be fair, I just don't think this team,
18:12
Speaker 3: this Bosnian team can do it, Doyle.
18:15
Speaker 4: If there are going to be those danger players that
18:18
Speaker 4: that's have highlighted. Alia Bekovic again, he's a place for Salisburg.
18:23
Speaker 4: He's he's like Asmre Barick Taravage in a way that
18:27
Speaker 4: like maybe not quite to the as Mire extreme of
18:30
Speaker 4: He just wants to do stuff all the time, Like
18:32
Speaker 4: if he gets the ball, he's trying to go forward.
18:34
Speaker 2: Sometimes he'll lose it.
18:35
Speaker 4: And and to Tab's point about hey, I had to
18:37
Speaker 4: tell him just pass the ball a couple of times
18:39
Speaker 4: to like get get them off off your set. I
18:41
Speaker 4: think it's mere bark Tyriviage more than anything in the world,
18:43
Speaker 4: wants to make somebody every single time the ball touches
18:45
Speaker 4: his day.
18:46
Speaker 1: Do you remember very well in his first touch for
18:49
Speaker 1: the national team, his first I was doing that game
18:51
Speaker 1: for though his first touch was a meg.
18:53
Speaker 3: I remember that.
18:55
Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:58
Speaker 5: I love the skill that he brings and he helps
19:01
Speaker 5: them get out of tight spots with that touch on
19:04
Speaker 5: the ball, But he doesn't turn that into momentum downhill
19:08
Speaker 5: towards goal often enough for me, whereas Alabegovic on the
19:11
Speaker 5: other side actually does. He's a little more north south
19:14
Speaker 5: and we saw that against Katar. But even in that game,
19:17
Speaker 5: they were struggling to get the ball into the box.
19:20
Speaker 5: They were struggling to combine in I think the best
19:24
Speaker 5: parts of the field. A lot of it was operating
19:27
Speaker 5: out wide and then coming inside. And to be fair,
19:31
Speaker 5: when you have two good forwards, which this team does,
19:35
Speaker 5: that ends up pinning the center backs. It makes it
19:37
Speaker 5: a little tougher to get out there and help early
19:40
Speaker 5: on the wingers. But there's not a lot of variety
19:44
Speaker 5: in what this team does what we've seen so far,
19:47
Speaker 5: even against a team like Katar when they were just
19:51
Speaker 5: far superior in terms of the overall.
19:54
Speaker 2: Talent on the field.
19:55
Speaker 4: So for me, if this game is tied up for
19:59
Speaker 4: ninety minutes, I would like to propose instead of extra
20:03
Speaker 4: time and penalties, forty yard dash ed and jack Over's
20:06
Speaker 4: Tim Rin.
20:09
Speaker 5: I think.
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Speaker 2: Eight year old Tim I would take.
20:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but if if you're allowed to have contact
20:15
Speaker 4: at the starting line, probably Jacko then a little bit.
20:18
Speaker 2: He gets a little nudge in the wiley veteran. That's
20:21
Speaker 2: what he does, right.
20:22
Speaker 5: He's really good at controlling space in small area Every
20:27
Speaker 5: great goal scorer is good at controlling space within small
20:31
Speaker 5: area areas, and Jacka has been doing at a high
20:33
Speaker 5: level for twenty years. I don't think we should expect
20:36
Speaker 5: him to play more than sixty five minutes in this way,
20:39
Speaker 5: but in the sixty five minutes he will be very dangerous.
20:43
Speaker 2: Won a legend for that team. But it's time for
20:45
Speaker 2: a very quick break up.
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Speaker 4: Next, we're going to dive deeper into the tactics, into
20:48
Speaker 4: the strengths and weaknesses of this Bosnia team, and exactly
20:51
Speaker 4: how the US complained to attack. Please write, review and
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21:07
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Inside American Soccer, and today we're joined
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Speaker 4: by the armchair Analyst Matt Doyle, So let's have him
21:12
Speaker 4: do what he does best and break down this game
21:15
Speaker 4: from a tactical perspective. So, Doyle, US VERSUS Bosnia Round
21:19
Speaker 4: of thirty two. First of all, do you expect this
21:22
Speaker 4: to be the same starting eleven as the opening match
21:24
Speaker 4: against Paraguay with Christian Pool sick likely fit and able
21:26
Speaker 4: to start? And then kind of, if so, how do
21:29
Speaker 4: you think that this game will look tactically and how
21:32
Speaker 4: can and will the US break this team down?
21:35
Speaker 5: So, first of all, I think it's a clear yes.
21:38
Speaker 5: All right, the US looked so good against Paraguay and Bosnia.
21:44
Speaker 5: I think we'll start in a four four two mid
21:46
Speaker 5: block in the way that Paraguay did. So why would
21:50
Speaker 5: you go away from what worked so perfectly in thatck?
21:55
Speaker 5: Am I off on this at all?
21:57
Speaker 2: Tab? Am I wrong in this thinking at all?
21:59
Speaker 5: No?
21:59
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't know what Pogentino's thinking, but for sure, No,
22:05
Speaker 1: that's not you know, not making fun. But I think
22:07
Speaker 1: we're all going to have it right this time.
22:10
Speaker 2: Well, I think what I'm worried about is how confident
22:13
Speaker 2: all three of us are.
22:14
Speaker 5: I think that's why my red flags are going off
22:16
Speaker 5: at your point, But what we saw from Bossi and
22:20
Speaker 5: Herzegovina over the course of the group stage is that
22:23
Speaker 5: well to four four two mid block. When they get
22:26
Speaker 5: pushed deeper, they'll drop into a five to three to
22:28
Speaker 5: two or sometimes it even looks like a five four
22:32
Speaker 5: to one, and that's fairly common. I think it's become
22:36
Speaker 5: more in vogue over the past couple of years than
22:38
Speaker 5: it was ten years ago. But it's not it's not
22:41
Speaker 5: anything that should be confusing to the US. But what
22:44
Speaker 5: struck me about them in the group stage, especially against
22:48
Speaker 5: Switzerland over the final twenty minutes of that game, which
22:51
Speaker 5: I think is maybe the worst any team in this
22:54
Speaker 5: World Cup has looked over a twenty minute stretch, was
22:57
Speaker 5: their inability to connect their back line and their central
23:01
Speaker 5: midfield when they're in that five to three to two shape,
23:04
Speaker 5: and their inability to track runners who are coming from
23:08
Speaker 5: I'll just call them odd or unusual angles or odd
23:11
Speaker 5: or unusual places. The difference was Johann Manzombie came on
23:15
Speaker 5: for Switzerland, and for my money, he has been the
23:17
Speaker 5: best young player at this tournament and he's basically a
23:20
Speaker 5: Weston McKenny clone, both in terms of you know how
23:25
Speaker 5: he moves and where he moves and the way he
23:28
Speaker 5: pulls teams apart off the ball, and those delayed runs
23:33
Speaker 5: from central midfield where he's creating overloads out wide or
23:37
Speaker 5: he's arriving at the box late, but sometimes just making
23:40
Speaker 5: those hard runs direct off the ball early, just completely
23:45
Speaker 5: undressed by like they had no idea how to track
23:49
Speaker 5: man Zombie, and it's it was like watching Western McKenny
23:52
Speaker 5: in that game. It is like I, based upon that
23:56
Speaker 5: and the way Weston has played through three games, I
23:59
Speaker 5: just can't imagine that they're going to be comfortable defending
24:02
Speaker 5: the US when the US have the ball. And then
24:05
Speaker 5: especially on top of that, the center forwards for Bosty
24:10
Speaker 5: and Herzegovina their quality and they're skillful, and they have
24:16
Speaker 5: Tom Bogert level pace out there, so they cannot take
24:20
Speaker 5: away build out avenues or passing lanes. So I think
24:23
Speaker 5: the US is actually going to be pretty comfortable in distribution,
24:28
Speaker 5: which I mean this could end up being sixty five
24:31
Speaker 5: percent possession for the US and just frustration because we
24:34
Speaker 5: never have that unlocked, but also we could find that
24:38
Speaker 5: unlocked real quick in this game the way we have
24:40
Speaker 5: for the past three.
24:43
Speaker 1: I mean if I could add to that, I would say,
24:46
Speaker 1: definitely confirm what you're saying about their back line, because
24:50
Speaker 1: when I went back to their games to specifically prepare
24:54
Speaker 1: for this, I expected to see that back you know,
24:57
Speaker 1: because one thing is when you're watching the game sort
24:59
Speaker 1: of as a fan and you're just watching the games.
25:01
Speaker 1: Another thing, you try to prepare for something, you know,
25:03
Speaker 1: and I thought that I would see this like back
25:07
Speaker 1: for like really sitting like a wall. You don't see
25:11
Speaker 1: that they actually chase the ball. And their back four
25:15
Speaker 1: rarely looks organized. It looks like they're all over the place.
25:19
Speaker 1: And I was really surprised by that because I didn't
25:22
Speaker 1: catch that just watching the game. You know, you watch
25:24
Speaker 1: the games, you watch the games. But when I when
25:27
Speaker 1: I looked for this, I was like, wow, Like their
25:29
Speaker 1: line looks one center backs in front, the other ones behind,
25:32
Speaker 1: then the other ones behind.
25:34
Speaker 3: This one's chasing wide.
25:35
Speaker 1: I didn't find the organization that I thought I would
25:39
Speaker 1: find in their back line. And I think because of that,
25:42
Speaker 1: I think the runs from McKinny and Tillman into the
25:45
Speaker 1: box as they happen against Paraguay, I just think they're
25:49
Speaker 1: gonna have They're gonna have a tough, tough time tracking
25:52
Speaker 1: our guys.
25:55
Speaker 4: So so Doyle in like a very very basic sense,
25:58
Speaker 4: because all these teams have their own nuances and weaknesses.
26:00
Speaker 4: But in a general basic sense, do you think that
26:04
Speaker 4: this opponent is going to be more aligned with say
26:06
Speaker 4: what we saw from Paraguay and Australia at the first
26:08
Speaker 4: two games at a group stage. Oh yeah, yeah, I don't.
26:12
Speaker 4: They're not going to be Turkey.
26:13
Speaker 5: They're not going to come out and try to have
26:15
Speaker 5: seventy percent of the ball. They are going to defend
26:18
Speaker 5: deep and as poor as they were against Switzerland, as
26:24
Speaker 5: Tap said, they got past Italy in qualifying. This is
26:27
Speaker 5: a team that knows how to suffer and they have
26:30
Speaker 5: match winners primarily on set pieces.
26:34
Speaker 2: You know, this is I'm not.
26:36
Speaker 5: Particularly afraid of them on the counter attack because those
26:40
Speaker 5: two big.
26:41
Speaker 2: Forwards are very good, but they have no pace.
26:44
Speaker 5: What they'll try to do is win the first ball
26:46
Speaker 5: and then spray out wide and if they do get
26:50
Speaker 5: on the ball, it'll be wide overloads and spamming crosses,
26:54
Speaker 5: and the US are going to have to deal with that.
26:56
Speaker 5: In the air like that is the threat, because we're
26:58
Speaker 5: not great in the air and kind of are so
27:01
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it'll be Australia like, even though
27:06
Speaker 5: it won't be the same exact set up, it'll be
27:10
Speaker 5: Australia like where every time they have a set piece,
27:14
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be holding my breath because that is how
27:17
Speaker 5: they can win.
27:20
Speaker 2: In preparing for set pieces, tab what does that look like?
27:24
Speaker 4: And when you know that you're going against a team
27:25
Speaker 4: that's going to be really strong in the air and
27:28
Speaker 4: in particular set piece.
27:29
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm sure you know that after seeing
27:32
Speaker 1: what they did, you know, against Canada just with the
27:34
Speaker 1: throwings alone, I'm sure that the US national team has
27:38
Speaker 1: been preparing for that.
27:39
Speaker 3: And you know, and how do you prepare for that?
27:41
Speaker 1: You get one man in front, right that just goes
27:43
Speaker 1: for the ball purely, that doesn't necessarily have a man,
27:46
Speaker 1: so you'd have you know, I'm a little bit more
27:49
Speaker 1: optimistic about the way we are in the air. Maybe
27:52
Speaker 1: that maybe a little bit more confident than Matt Is
27:55
Speaker 1: or Matt sounded.
27:57
Speaker 4: You know.
27:58
Speaker 1: You know, I think our guys can do well in
28:00
Speaker 1: the back in terms of you know, winning the ball
28:02
Speaker 1: on set pieces. But I do think that this is
28:05
Speaker 1: something that you have to prepare for. You have to
28:07
Speaker 1: get a man in front, and then everyone else matches up,
28:10
Speaker 1: you know, with the guys that can potentially flick the
28:12
Speaker 1: ball to the far posts. But you know, we're you know,
28:15
Speaker 1: it's not it's not like you just you're just protecting
28:18
Speaker 1: against you know, one person that's going to flick the ball.
28:21
Speaker 1: You got the guys coming to the far posts, and
28:23
Speaker 1: against Canada they had two or three come to the
28:25
Speaker 1: far posts that nearly put in a second goal off
28:28
Speaker 1: a throwing.
28:29
Speaker 3: So this is going to be difficult. But I'm sure
28:31
Speaker 3: you the US team has been preparing specifically for those things.
28:37
Speaker 4: Right and as silly as it is, you can prepare
28:39
Speaker 4: what you want, but if the right delivery comes in
28:41
Speaker 4: and kind of the right angle, it's all hell breaks loose.
28:44
Speaker 4: So Doyle, I want to talk about optionality off the bench,
28:48
Speaker 4: because I think that might have been the bigger disappointment
28:50
Speaker 4: from the Turkey game was some individual performances in attack
28:54
Speaker 4: of Okay, who if they need a goal, if it's nil, nail,
28:56
Speaker 4: if it's one one, whatever, where do you turn to
28:59
Speaker 4: and how do you turn to?
29:00
Speaker 2: The other side of this is early goals.
29:02
Speaker 4: Seventh minute against Paraguay, eleventh minute against Australia third minute
29:06
Speaker 4: against Turkia. Again to be overly simplistic, an early goal
29:10
Speaker 4: against Bosia I think sinks this game the same way
29:13
Speaker 4: that he kind of sunk Paraguay in Australia. But if
29:16
Speaker 4: that early goal doesn't come and it's a six sixtieth
29:18
Speaker 4: minute and you need attacking verve given what you saw
29:24
Speaker 4: from the last game against Turkey A, or if it
29:27
Speaker 4: doesn't weigh enough or too much, what would your kind
29:31
Speaker 4: of ideal be to change the game.
29:34
Speaker 5: If we need to change the game and have that
29:38
Speaker 5: guy who can sort of unlock things with a little
29:41
Speaker 5: bit of creativity and skill. I still think Geo Rena
29:45
Speaker 5: is the right choice for the US. His comfort on
29:48
Speaker 5: the ball is a level above anybody else on this team.
29:52
Speaker 5: You lose something defensively with him out there. And one
29:55
Speaker 5: of the things that has been really good for the
29:56
Speaker 5: US has been the repress after we've lost the ball
30:00
Speaker 5: in the attacking third. And Geo doesn't really help you
30:02
Speaker 5: much in that, and he's certainly not going to run
30:05
Speaker 5: down any counter attacks either. But you know we've seen
30:09
Speaker 5: in flashes the level of skill that is why he
30:13
Speaker 5: got his stick at punched and why he's here. Then
30:15
Speaker 5: the other one is like, okay, it's kitchen sync time.
30:18
Speaker 5: I'm taking Hojji Wright over Ricardo Peppy based upon what
30:21
Speaker 5: we've seen from Ricardo Peppe in the group stage. He's
30:25
Speaker 5: worked hard, his movement can be really good. He looks
30:29
Speaker 5: like a guy who scores goals in the nether ones.
30:31
Speaker 2: He doesn't.
30:32
Speaker 5: He hasn't looked ready physically for the level that the
30:36
Speaker 5: Australians brought or the level that the Turkish center backs brought,
30:42
Speaker 5: and Hajji Wright, I think is maybe a little more
30:44
Speaker 5: limited overall. But he's also scored in a goal in
30:47
Speaker 5: a World Cup rather and he's a big dude, and
30:50
Speaker 5: he wins headers, and there's going to be a time
30:52
Speaker 5: if the US is chasing the game where you're just
30:55
Speaker 5: getting it into the mixer, and a big dude who
30:58
Speaker 5: wins headers is kind of a requie it for that
31:00
Speaker 5: if you're going to make something out of it.
31:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. I think the difficult part with that, Matt,
31:06
Speaker 3: is that we we didn't prepare. How'd you write for that?
31:09
Speaker 4: Right?
31:09
Speaker 5: So?
31:10
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I know he's been playing all year,
31:12
Speaker 1: so it's not like he forgot how to play. But
31:14
Speaker 1: but I thought you know, and Tom and I talked
31:16
Speaker 1: about this on the on the last show here, we
31:19
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that, you know, the last game,
31:22
Speaker 1: we weren't going.
31:23
Speaker 3: To hold Putschatino to a result because we needed to
31:26
Speaker 3: make changes. Right, So obviously you want to win the game.
31:29
Speaker 3: You can't be happy in the press conference after you lose.
31:32
Speaker 1: But but we you know, we understood that that that
31:34
Speaker 1: was not necessarily all about the result. But I think
31:37
Speaker 1: it was more about what's going to happen after. And
31:39
Speaker 1: I think, you know, as you're mentioning here, and I
31:41
Speaker 1: agree with you that how'd you write could be a
31:43
Speaker 1: very important piece for us coming off the bench. I
31:45
Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen him in that game,
31:48
Speaker 1: you know, for a period of time, so that he's prepared.
31:51
Speaker 1: Just as I said about you know, Arstin playing on
31:53
Speaker 1: the left side. You know we mentioned on the last show. Okay,
31:56
Speaker 1: so you know you play, you played trustee on that side.
32:00
Speaker 1: But what happens if Robinson gets hurt, Jedi gets hurt,
32:03
Speaker 1: you know, five minutes into the next game, and that
32:06
Speaker 1: can happen.
32:06
Speaker 3: Who do you put there? You go back to Arbsten,
32:09
Speaker 3: of course you do, because that's his position. But if
32:11
Speaker 3: you are, why don't you just play him the last game?
32:13
Speaker 1: Right? That would have been good preparation for him. So
32:16
Speaker 1: I think all those things come into play. But but yeah,
32:19
Speaker 1: there's no question I would say this though. I would say,
32:22
Speaker 1: if we're sixtieth minute, seventieth minute, you know, we have
32:26
Speaker 1: to be patient. You know there's gonna be over time,
32:29
Speaker 1: you know. I would I would not be, you know,
32:32
Speaker 1: seventieth minute rolls around.
32:34
Speaker 3: I would not be.
32:34
Speaker 1: Necessarily going to the bench for Giorna yet, right. I
32:38
Speaker 1: would maybe wait a little bit longer, you know, depending
32:42
Speaker 1: on how the game is going. I would trust that
32:44
Speaker 1: at some point our guys will break them down unless
32:47
Speaker 1: we're seeing nothing, right, unless we're seeing nothing. But I
32:50
Speaker 1: would not get desperate because don't forget we likely could
32:52
Speaker 1: have thirty minutes of extra time as well, so we
32:57
Speaker 1: have to be patient. I think if we're patient, will
32:59
Speaker 1: eventually break them down.
33:00
Speaker 4: Yeah, Doyle and Doyle first, then tab what is your
33:05
Speaker 4: one biggest key to this game for the us M
33:07
Speaker 4: and tap.
33:08
Speaker 5: The temple that they play with, the temple that they
33:10
Speaker 5: played with the first two games, and I know they
33:12
Speaker 5: weren't clean against Australia and partially credit to Australia for that. Oh,
33:17
Speaker 5: but the tempo that they played with when they were
33:20
Speaker 5: on the ball, and actually I think for a good
33:23
Speaker 5: chunk of the Turkey game as well, was really impressive
33:27
Speaker 5: to me.
33:27
Speaker 2: They looked up for the moment.
33:29
Speaker 5: They looked like they were not afraid of controlling the game,
33:32
Speaker 5: coming out there and making the opponents react to them.
33:36
Speaker 5: And I think if the US do that, with the
33:38
Speaker 5: talent that they have and the form that that talent
33:42
Speaker 5: is in, they will stand a very very good chance
33:47
Speaker 5: of winning this game. And the other thing about having
33:50
Speaker 5: that kind of tempo is by definition, you're then getting
33:54
Speaker 5: the ball in good spots, which means your rest defensive set,
33:57
Speaker 5: which means that you're not really going to allow anything
34:01
Speaker 5: unless it's individual breakdowns like what we saw against Turkey.
34:05
Speaker 3: Yeah. I couldn't agree more with that.
34:08
Speaker 1: I think if we move the ball quickly, that's how
34:10
Speaker 1: you don't let Bosnia get set into their sort of
34:13
Speaker 1: their defensive unit and be organized enough to slide from
34:16
Speaker 1: side to side. I think, if you know, if we
34:18
Speaker 1: if we can, if we can move the ball quickly,
34:21
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be key to the game.
34:22
Speaker 1: And then if as a second key to the game.
34:25
Speaker 1: I would say, obviously set pieces. You know, we have
34:27
Speaker 1: to be fully focused from the first minute because you
34:30
Speaker 1: know set piece can decide this whole thing.
34:34
Speaker 4: That's where I was going to go for minetap set pieces,
34:36
Speaker 4: not just in defending them, though that is obviously crucial,
34:39
Speaker 4: but eliminating those opportunities and portuity for a team with
34:43
Speaker 4: a long throw that becomes more pertinent because nobody wants
34:47
Speaker 4: to give away a corner and sometimes you settle for
34:49
Speaker 4: a long throw. Now that has to go into the
34:52
Speaker 4: thinking of don't give away needless set piece opportunities to
34:55
Speaker 4: a team that is most dangerous.
34:57
Speaker 2: In that area of the game. But again, it's one game.
35:00
Speaker 2: It's a knockout round.
35:02
Speaker 4: While I think we all respect what Bosia can be,
35:05
Speaker 4: the US is pretty heavy favorites in this game in
35:07
Speaker 4: the round of thirty two, playing at home in the
35:10
Speaker 4: United States, so expectations are high and I'm looking forward
35:13
Speaker 4: to this game.
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Speaker 2: But it's time for one more quick break.
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Speaker 4: Next up, Tab gives US Draft Kings predictions this week's
35:18
Speaker 4: biggest matches in the Round of thirty two, including US
35:21
Speaker 4: versus Posia Partscobina.
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Speaker 4: Subscriber, Welcome back to Inside American Soccer. We'll roll into
35:38
Speaker 4: the knockout rounds here at the World Cup tab. You've
35:41
Speaker 4: got a pretty good game on your hands. You're calling
35:43
Speaker 4: portscals croatiar.
35:44
Speaker 2: You know, I am.
35:45
Speaker 1: I'm so excited about that. I really, I actually feel
35:47
Speaker 1: like a little kid going to a World Cup game
35:49
Speaker 1: for the first time.
35:50
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be calling it.
35:51
Speaker 1: But you know, and here's the thing, because players, you know,
35:55
Speaker 1: we can always talk about great players, but the opportunity
35:59
Speaker 1: to do Ronaldo and Modrich and what could potentially.
36:02
Speaker 3: Be their last game. I mean I say potentially, but
36:05
Speaker 3: obviously they're in their forties, you know.
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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's their last for one of them,
36:13
Speaker 1: you right, But you know, for one of them, I
36:15
Speaker 1: think I think it's their last World Cup game, right,
36:18
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I think these are these are
36:21
Speaker 1: absolute legends of the game, you know. And and of course,
36:24
Speaker 1: you know, you you you would want to put Ronaldo
36:27
Speaker 1: in a much higher let's say, pedestal because.
36:30
Speaker 3: Of who he's been in the goals he scored.
36:32
Speaker 1: But you know, Luka Modrich for the last fifteen years
36:35
Speaker 1: had been has been one of the steadiest midfielders that.
36:39
Speaker 3: There have been.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I couldn't recall a poor game from Luka
36:43
Speaker 1: Modrich over the last fifteen years, you know, And I
36:47
Speaker 1: have to tell you, I did his last game on
36:49
Speaker 1: Saturday versus Ghana, and he was slide tackling inside his
36:52
Speaker 1: own box and blocking shots.
36:54
Speaker 3: It was incredible.
36:56
Speaker 1: It's incredible that at that at his age, he looks
36:59
Speaker 1: like he looked ten fifteen years ago. So you know,
37:02
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that, you know that it's
37:05
Speaker 1: going to be his last game, but it's going to
37:06
Speaker 1: be in a way sad to watch either Ronaldo or
37:09
Speaker 1: Modrid walk off the field knowing that we likely never
37:13
Speaker 1: see them again in a World Cup.
37:15
Speaker 3: And I'm very fortunate to be able to.
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Speaker 5: That.
37:20
Speaker 3: I'm going to be able to live that in the stadium.
37:24
Speaker 4: I can't wait for that one. I'm very very happy
37:27
Speaker 4: for you and very jealous. But now it's time for
37:29
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37:31
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37:33
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Speaker 2: Tuesday, afternoon in Dallas. Ivory Coos versus Norway Tap. What
37:42
Speaker 2: do you think?
37:43
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've actually been doing pretty well with
37:46
Speaker 1: my Draft Kings picks, but I have to say what
37:49
Speaker 1: I have to say, this is where it can get
37:52
Speaker 1: a little shady.
37:53
Speaker 3: This is the week where this is the week where, like.
37:56
Speaker 1: We have some great matchups here and they're tough to call,
38:00
Speaker 1: and I'm not going with the odds on them.
38:02
Speaker 3: I'm going with the field of what I feel. So
38:06
Speaker 3: I'm I'm excited about the picks for this week. Who
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Speaker 3: are we going with? First? Ivory Coast Norway.
38:14
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've been able to do two I recast games,
38:19
Speaker 1: Tom Matt.
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Speaker 3: This is a complete team. This is a complete team.
38:24
Speaker 1: That I knew after watching them play h Live that
38:29
Speaker 1: whoever gets them in the second round is in for
38:32
Speaker 1: some game because it's not just Diamande on one side
38:36
Speaker 1: and Diallo on the other side. And you have Bony
38:40
Speaker 1: up top and they have options. Getsar could go up top.
38:43
Speaker 1: They have options. But now you have Kessi and midfield,
38:46
Speaker 1: you have Sungari and midfield, you have Fafana and midfield.
38:50
Speaker 1: They have good defenders. I mean, this is a complete team.
38:54
Speaker 1: I know Norway has Holland, they have sore Loath, they
38:58
Speaker 1: have oder Guard, they are they are also very They
39:01
Speaker 1: have news Out Let's not forget because he can break
39:03
Speaker 1: a team down. So Norway is a great team too.
39:08
Speaker 1: I for what I've seen, I think the odds gives
39:11
Speaker 1: the game to Norway. But I'm I'm gonna go against
39:15
Speaker 1: it here and I'm gonna say my DraftKings pick is
39:18
Speaker 1: Ivory Coast to Norway one.
39:24
Speaker 2: I like that pick. This is kind of a coin
39:27
Speaker 2: flip game.
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Speaker 5: I just think that Gotar or Ivory Coast are better
39:34
Speaker 5: through central midfield, and that's because of Kessi. I think
39:36
Speaker 5: Kessi is one of the most underrated central midfielders in
39:40
Speaker 5: the world. And then they have the kid that they
39:42
Speaker 5: could bring off the bench, christ Ulai, who has been really,
39:46
Speaker 5: really impressive so far. I think he'll be coming off
39:50
Speaker 5: the bench in this game kind of a change of
39:52
Speaker 5: pace if they need to sort of overwhelm Norway in
39:56
Speaker 5: central midfield.
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Speaker 2: Norway doesn't have that option. What they do have.
40:00
Speaker 5: Look if Norway would drop Soorlock and turn him into
40:02
Speaker 5: a super sub and bring on Oscar Bob to start,
40:06
Speaker 5: and you have Bob on one side and Mussa on
40:08
Speaker 5: the other side, with Aland in the middle. Then I
40:11
Speaker 5: would maybe lean in the other direction, but I don't
40:13
Speaker 5: think they're gonna do that, So I'm with you.
40:15
Speaker 2: I've coasted this one.
40:17
Speaker 4: That that's honestly one of the knockout round games of
40:20
Speaker 4: this round that I'm looking the most forward too. There's
40:21
Speaker 4: a lot of good ones, but that one, that one
40:23
Speaker 4: is high up there, all right. Our next game, the
40:25
Speaker 4: tournament favorites in New Jersey France for Sweden.
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Speaker 1: Tap this one, I see pretty easy, actually, I I
40:35
Speaker 1: wish I could say that Sweden is going to give
40:37
Speaker 1: France a game, and if they do, it's because France
40:41
Speaker 1: is just going to be sort of looking at their watch,
40:44
Speaker 1: going when are we going to turn this on? Because honestly,
40:48
Speaker 1: you know, you watch France play, and by the way,
40:50
Speaker 1: I think, if France has their day.
40:52
Speaker 3: No one can touch them in this tournament. No team
40:55
Speaker 3: can touch them.
40:56
Speaker 1: You know, you know, I did a couple of their games,
40:59
Speaker 1: and you know, you watch a course, you're watching and
41:01
Speaker 1: boping Dean Bele and Alise, but then they played with
41:04
Speaker 1: Barklaw and so and then all of a sudden, you know,
41:07
Speaker 1: the the the board goes up and they're like, okay,
41:09
Speaker 1: Barclaw is coming off, and okay, Due is coming on,
41:13
Speaker 1: all right, and now wait, so Lisa is coming off,
41:16
Speaker 1: and Turkey's coming on, and and Kane is playing he's
41:19
Speaker 1: coming off, and chow Many's coming on.
41:21
Speaker 3: And you're like, well, wait, aren't these old starters? Wait?
41:24
Speaker 3: These are not like they have they have they have
41:28
Speaker 3: too much. They are so fun to watch.
41:30
Speaker 1: I mentioned briefly on this show I think last week
41:34
Speaker 1: that they they remind me a little bit of the
41:37
Speaker 1: the Djoko Benito Brazil days. These guys are fun to watch.
41:41
Speaker 1: And I'll say this because I think a lot of
41:44
Speaker 1: people have the wrong perception of this team.
41:47
Speaker 3: This team is unselfish.
41:49
Speaker 1: These guys up top, they can't wait to pass the
41:52
Speaker 1: ball to each other, actually to a fall. They they
41:55
Speaker 1: you watch them playing the game, and they're unselfish. They're
41:57
Speaker 1: looking for each other. I think I think this team,
42:01
Speaker 1: first of all, they didn't make it to the last
42:02
Speaker 1: two World Cup finals by chance, so they have that
42:05
Speaker 1: experience and they're just the best team. I'm not gonna
42:08
Speaker 1: talk anymore because there's nothing else to say. I don't
42:11
Speaker 1: you know, it really doesn't matter to me. Who's on
42:13
Speaker 1: the sweetest team. I know, I e Zach is up
42:17
Speaker 1: top and whatever. I just I just don't think it's
42:19
Speaker 1: gonna matter. I'm gonna say that somehow Sweden's gonna score
42:24
Speaker 1: a goal in this game. But my draftking pick for
42:27
Speaker 1: this game is France three Sweden one.
42:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what.
42:34
Speaker 5: I'm going to open that DraftKings app and I am
42:37
Speaker 5: going to maybe wager a little bit of my hard
42:39
Speaker 5: earned cash on killing Himbappe scoring at least a brace.
42:44
Speaker 5: I just so unimpressed by Sweden's defense. I think France
42:49
Speaker 5: are gonna rip them apart. If they scored five goals,
42:52
Speaker 5: I would not be the least bit surprised that this
42:55
Speaker 5: feels like France to Winton nail situation. I think that
42:57
Speaker 5: they'll be in control, and even if sometimes goes by
43:00
Speaker 5: cruise control, you'll never feel like, oh Sweden or a
43:03
Speaker 5: set piece away here.
43:04
Speaker 3: That's uh.
43:05
Speaker 2: I don't know.
43:05
Speaker 4: This team is unbelievable, This France team. But moving on
43:09
Speaker 4: to the Azteca Mexico Ecuador. Before you go, tab, I
43:13
Speaker 4: want to point out for a team that Mexico could
43:17
Speaker 4: have gotten at the Esteca, Ecuador is one of the
43:20
Speaker 4: few that it's like, shoot, like they're not really gonna
43:23
Speaker 4: be intimidated. They play in South America, they go to Argentina,
43:25
Speaker 4: Brazil at the time, and they play at altitude.
43:27
Speaker 2: All they play the higher altitude than the actual teams
43:31
Speaker 2: in the world.
43:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, so in terms of listen, if if Mexico gets in,
43:35
Speaker 4: and we'll do the next game next. But like Mexico
43:38
Speaker 4: England in the Red of sixteen, as Teco is going
43:41
Speaker 4: to play a big, big part, Mexico Ecuador not quite so.
43:44
Speaker 3: Tab I think you you guys just said everything I
43:47
Speaker 3: was gonna say.
43:48
Speaker 1: I'll add to that and say that there is no
43:51
Speaker 1: worse team that Mexico could have drawn to play at
43:56
Speaker 1: the Esteca and and I say, other than France, I
44:01
Speaker 1: think there's no other team that would be worse for
44:03
Speaker 1: Mexico to play at d Steca. Like you said, they
44:07
Speaker 1: play at altitude, they play and he this is the
44:10
Speaker 1: most prepared team.
44:11
Speaker 3: And by the way, they're better. They're better than Mexico is.
44:15
Speaker 3: They're better. And so I have to say, this is
44:19
Speaker 3: going to be some game. I think it'll be back
44:21
Speaker 3: and forth. But I think at the end of the.
44:24
Speaker 1: Day you might be surprised with my Draftkinks pick. But
44:28
Speaker 1: my Draftkinks pick is going to be Mexico one, Ecuador two,
44:32
Speaker 1: and it's going to be the end of Mexico in
44:34
Speaker 1: this tournament.
44:37
Speaker 5: I think that's bold to assume that Mexico will be
44:41
Speaker 5: able to score against this Ecuador.
44:44
Speaker 2: This one.
44:45
Speaker 5: It would not shock me if it's nil nil and
44:47
Speaker 5: it goes to penalties. Ecuador is so good defensively and
44:51
Speaker 5: so punchless in attack. I look, man, Mexico, that home
44:56
Speaker 5: field advantage, They're going to have.
44:58
Speaker 2: To lean on it. But I do think that Ecuador
45:00
Speaker 2: are the ones who are.
45:01
Speaker 5: Going to go.
45:02
Speaker 1: And by the way I met that, I that I
45:05
Speaker 1: I kind of hope that Mexico wins and they keep going,
45:07
Speaker 1: just like I did with Canada last yesterday. I was
45:11
Speaker 1: happy that Canada won. You know, I think the longer
45:13
Speaker 1: the hosts stay on, the better the tournament is going
45:15
Speaker 1: to be. I'm just not seeing them getting past this
45:18
Speaker 1: Ecuador team. Ecuador's too much.
45:22
Speaker 4: I still I still like Mexico here, but I appreciate
45:24
Speaker 4: the difference of opinions. Next game, the winners play each other,
45:28
Speaker 4: England versus d R Congo. One of the best stories
45:31
Speaker 4: at this tournament they play in Atlanta, indoors.
45:34
Speaker 1: Yes, so this pick, you know, English England has done
45:38
Speaker 1: the best they could so far to bore us into
45:42
Speaker 1: thinking that at some point they're going to be good,
45:45
Speaker 1: you know, and and it seems to me like it
45:49
Speaker 1: seems to me like we're way you know, let's wait,
45:51
Speaker 1: because then you know, the next game they're really going
45:54
Speaker 1: to turn it on.
45:54
Speaker 3: And wait, no, by the third game, they're really going
45:57
Speaker 3: to get rolling.
45:58
Speaker 1: And now we're looking into the second thinking, you know,
46:01
Speaker 1: when this England team turns it on, they're going to
46:03
Speaker 1: be something else. I'm not sure there's a whole lot
46:06
Speaker 1: to turn on here with England, but I have to
46:08
Speaker 1: say they have good players, and they have experienced players,
46:11
Speaker 1: and I think this is the time where they have
46:13
Speaker 1: to win a big game.
46:14
Speaker 3: Congo is not a rollover. But at the same time,
46:17
Speaker 3: they're not an elite.
46:20
Speaker 1: African team, and I think because of that, my DraftKings
46:23
Speaker 1: pick for this game will be England one, Congo zero.
46:28
Speaker 5: Yeah, that sounds about right to me. You know how,
46:30
Speaker 5: we were talking earlier on the show about Bosnia being
46:33
Speaker 5: a little bit uncomfortable defending sort of third man runs
46:38
Speaker 5: or these runs from odd spots and Dr Congo has
46:41
Speaker 5: not been troubled by that at all. They're really well disciplined,
46:45
Speaker 5: they're really smart defensive team, really really hard to break down.
46:50
Speaker 5: And I don't think that England will be able to
46:52
Speaker 5: do it from the run of play. And I think
46:53
Speaker 5: the man to blame for that is Thomas Tookell for
46:56
Speaker 5: not giving himself optionality with the likes of Trent Alexander Arnolder,
47:00
Speaker 5: Cole Palmer or whoever.
47:01
Speaker 2: But England are just so so good on restarts. We
47:06
Speaker 2: saw it against Panama.
47:07
Speaker 5: They got the goal off a restart, It opened the
47:10
Speaker 5: game up, they got the two zerl win. Would not
47:12
Speaker 5: shock me if it's a repeat of that. The arsenalification
47:16
Speaker 5: of top level soccers descrussed. I can't play possible whether
47:20
Speaker 5: they play Mexico or Ecuador in the round of sixteen,
47:23
Speaker 5: run out of gas at the sixtieth minute and they're
47:25
Speaker 5: going to lose in this world couple will be better
47:27
Speaker 5: off for it.
47:30
Speaker 2: The next game Belgium Versenegal.
47:32
Speaker 4: This is in Seattle, and the winner stays in Seattle
47:34
Speaker 4: to play the winner of US versus Bosia.
47:37
Speaker 2: So tap Belgium.
47:38
Speaker 1: This is another one of those matchups that I think
47:40
Speaker 1: you can't be wrong picking either one of these teams
47:43
Speaker 1: to win the game, because you can find a reason
47:46
Speaker 1: for both.
47:46
Speaker 3: I mean, Senegal has a great team.
47:48
Speaker 1: Obviously they're African Champions, you know, although obviously whatever they
47:55
Speaker 1: gave the championship to Morocco.
47:57
Speaker 2: They're the champions. If they were handed the Trovian, they're
47:59
Speaker 2: the champion. I don't care about what the on.
48:01
Speaker 3: The field, they're the champions.
48:02
Speaker 1: And as we could see from this tournament, you know
48:04
Speaker 1: how many African teams qualified to the second round, so
48:07
Speaker 1: that now we give that being African Champions has a
48:11
Speaker 1: lot more value than I think it did a few
48:13
Speaker 1: months back. And so, you know, at the same time Belgium,
48:18
Speaker 1: you know, I think Doku is getting into the tournament.
48:21
Speaker 1: You know, as you both both, you guys know, I'm
48:23
Speaker 1: a big fan of Doku. I just don't think he
48:25
Speaker 1: can be stopped. He had potentially, if not the best
48:29
Speaker 1: year of any player. You know, he's right up there
48:31
Speaker 1: with Alise in terms of who were the best players
48:34
Speaker 1: this year in the world. I think he's right up there,
48:37
Speaker 1: and he'll be he'll be hard hard to stop, you know.
48:43
Speaker 1: I think this is going to be one of those
48:45
Speaker 1: games where potentially goes to overtime, it could potentially go
48:47
Speaker 1: to penalty kicks, it could be that game. Having said that,
48:52
Speaker 1: I can't see de Bruynett going down in this game
48:55
Speaker 1: this early.
48:56
Speaker 3: I think Troussard is that scrappy guy that always finds
49:00
Speaker 3: away and I can see them finding a game in
49:02
Speaker 3: a way in a game like this, getting a scrappy goal.
49:07
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, you also have Courtois,
49:10
Speaker 1: you know, and if Courtois is in good form, and
49:12
Speaker 1: if Courtois makes a couple of big saves, that's always
49:15
Speaker 1: encouraging for your team.
49:17
Speaker 3: Uh.
49:17
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna have to say, and you know
49:20
Speaker 1: I'd be I'm reluctant to see to say that it's
49:24
Speaker 1: not going to be Senegal, but my Draft Pink Draftkinks
49:27
Speaker 1: pick for this game will be Senegal one, Belgium two.
49:33
Speaker 4: I still as a Liverpool van, I still have nightmares
49:35
Speaker 4: of the ron Koutois from two Champions League finals.
49:38
Speaker 2: So that's the Boogeyman.
49:40
Speaker 5: He's just the boom So I want to say I
49:43
Speaker 5: want to push back and say no, Senegal is going
49:45
Speaker 5: to go through, especially because they were so great in
49:47
Speaker 5: that third place or the third group stage game against Iraq,
49:51
Speaker 5: but it's a different order like Iraq in a third
49:55
Speaker 5: group stage game or Belgium in a knockout round. And man,
50:00
Speaker 5: I wanted to believe in Senegal coming into this tournament,
50:03
Speaker 5: but they were so bad in the friendlies leading into
50:06
Speaker 5: a tournament, and then they were really really poor in
50:11
Speaker 5: their first two games against France and Norway, to the
50:13
Speaker 5: point where Benjamin Mendy, the goalkeeper, gets injured and subbed out.
50:19
Speaker 5: But then Kali du Koulibali, who's a captain, who's the
50:22
Speaker 5: foundation of this great he gets subbed out in the
50:26
Speaker 5: middle of the game and so their central defense is
50:29
Speaker 5: in disarray. They have a backup goalkeeper in I don't
50:32
Speaker 5: think the front line is fitting quite as well as
50:35
Speaker 5: it should have, especially with Nico Jackson coming off the bench.
50:39
Speaker 5: I look, Belgium hasn't been great either, but I think
50:42
Speaker 5: they have enough to get pest this version of set.
50:46
Speaker 5: I just wish it was the afcon version of Senegal
50:49
Speaker 5: that we were getting, because that team was so much
50:51
Speaker 5: fun and they were so in sync, and this version
50:53
Speaker 5: six months later, it's a completely different team.
50:57
Speaker 4: Well, now we're going to get to the big one.
50:59
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Speaker 4: the US m N tivers Bosi and Herdzego VI on
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Speaker 4: Wednesday night in Santa Clara. The US are big, big
51:12
Speaker 4: favorites to advance minus five twenty five Bosnia plus for
51:16
Speaker 4: eighty eight. This is one of the biggest favorites in
51:19
Speaker 4: this round of thirty two among the sixteen games tab
51:23
Speaker 4: Us Bosia.
51:24
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, we've talked.
51:25
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about obviously this game and in
51:28
Speaker 1: particular about Bosnia and what they could do to us.
51:32
Speaker 3: You know, I think in the end, you know, we
51:35
Speaker 3: we we just have too much, you know. I think
51:37
Speaker 3: the team is confident. You know, we have great players.
51:41
Speaker 1: We have a great midfield in particular that I think
51:43
Speaker 1: is going to hurt this Bosnia team. And if Polisic
51:47
Speaker 1: is in in the form he was the last game.
51:49
Speaker 1: I know it was only last twenty minutes, but you know,
51:51
Speaker 1: he looked as fast as I had not seen him
51:54
Speaker 1: since he played for Chelsea, I think, to be fair,
51:57
Speaker 1: and although he made a play for Milan this year,
51:59
Speaker 1: where he went wide and had a forty yard sprint
52:01
Speaker 1: into goal, which you don't see often.
52:03
Speaker 3: But I think he's in good form. I think he's
52:06
Speaker 3: excited about this. I think this match is going.
52:09
Speaker 1: To be a lot harder than we think it's going
52:11
Speaker 1: to be, and it's going to take a while for
52:13
Speaker 1: US to break them down. I don't see an early
52:14
Speaker 1: goal from US, and I think if that doesn't happen,
52:17
Speaker 1: Bosnia can hold us for a while and it could
52:20
Speaker 1: potentially go into a second half where we have to
52:23
Speaker 1: decide this game. But my Draftkinks pick for this game
52:27
Speaker 1: is going to be US two Bosnia zero.
52:33
Speaker 2: That sounds right to me. That said you said it
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Speaker 2: was plus forty eight for bos plus eight. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: that is. That is tasty right there.
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Speaker 5: So I might pick the US, But you know, hedge
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Speaker 5: a little bit of a wager on draftings.
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Speaker 2: I like that idea.
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Speaker 4: My running joke, my running joke has been this has
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Speaker 4: one one draw Bosnia and penalty is written all over it.
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Speaker 2: That's that's not.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 2: I hope.
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Speaker 4: I hope to personally be in Seattle for the round
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Speaker 4: of sixteen, but uh, I've got some fear I don't do.
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Speaker 2: It's your point, I don't think that.
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Speaker 4: So Bosnia at plus forty eight, that implies that if
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Speaker 4: you play this game five times, the US gets through four.
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't know if if that's exactly accurate, or I
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Speaker 4: think five or six of my quick mass is not
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Speaker 4: very good regardless. To the point is I think the
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Speaker 4: US should be favorites, maybe not that much. And in
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Speaker 4: the world of betting, you know, it's not just about
53:37
Speaker 4: who's better. It's why the Lakers and the Yankees and
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Speaker 4: the Knicks and the Celtics and all the big teams
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Speaker 4: in the major four sports are Oh you you don't
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Speaker 4: get value on them because everybody's fans of them. The
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Speaker 4: the money on these this game is going to be
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Speaker 4: like ninety seven weeks, like you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: So maybe in reality that the number would be further down.
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Speaker 4: But who in the right mind in this country is
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Speaker 4: Benning Basia only a few percentages this guy, this guy, but.
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Speaker 2: This one, I guess.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go watch the game of the STEC
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Speaker 4: on the round of sixteen. That's actually sounds pretty good. Yeah, listen, guys,
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Speaker 4: I'm very very excited for this game. I was even
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Speaker 4: more excited enough to talking to you, to fine fellas,
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Speaker 4: Thank you to Matt Doyle, Thank you as always to
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Speaker 4: a full breakdown and hopefully I'll look ahead to the
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Speaker 4: Round of sixteen or a post mortem of what happened
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Speaker 4: to the US I mean, Keith a rock up.
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