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Julian Edelman Talks Patriots Legacy, Building His Personal Brand, and LA vs. Boston · NFL explained.

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  Speaker 1: Here we are Off the Edge with your host Cam Jordan.
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  Speaker 1: everybody listening. Thank you, you know, thank you for tapping in,
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  Speaker 2: You're valued.
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  Speaker 1: And speaking of value players, I'm go ahead and bring
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  Speaker 1: in a man who is clearly valuable player. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a slot receiver that's won at the highest level super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the man that may have seen not one,
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  Speaker 1: not two, but like three super Bowl championships.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to go to a super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 2: A guy who has been a part of the New
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  Speaker 2: England Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: Is one of the you know, all dynasty team members.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody who's seen the success on every level and is
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  Speaker 1: of course media personality himself, and probably will see him
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  Speaker 1: sometime during my bye week. A man who still leaves
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  Speaker 1: the term athlete on his id bio. We talking about
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  Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, big doll. Appreciate you coming.
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  Speaker 4: In, No problem, no problem. Thank you to the listeners too. Man,
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  Speaker 4: that was a beautiful opening right there. Value for the listener.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a football guy right there. Got to
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  Speaker 3: always display value.
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  Speaker 1: Big team, you know, big team, little me. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: just I'm just simply thinking, like, let's just talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, athlete in the bio, you still consider yourself athlete.
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  Speaker 1: He's still like you still work out, you like that,
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  Speaker 1: you built, you built for the for the game today.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if I could go out and play today.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean I have everything in my life because
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  Speaker 3: of athleticism or athletics.
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  Speaker 4: Uh so, I mean I'm an athlete.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean this meet of stuff now, but you should
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  Speaker 3: see me on the Batmanton court.
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  Speaker 2: I hoping you say so. Pick a ball, yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 2: flick of the risks, catch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's risks and elbow.
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  Speaker 2: UVE love that for you.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of, you know, meet the media part though, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what what haven't you done? You're on You're on the
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  Speaker 1: Fox NFL Sunday show as a sports analyst. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you you host, not one but two podcasts. Man, you
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  Speaker 1: never stopped working, co founded a production company. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Nuthouse Sports. I've seen you know on your ig you
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  Speaker 1: got to riddle all types of like skits and everything
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  Speaker 1: else from there, like it's it's entertainment at its finest
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  Speaker 1: highest levels.
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  Speaker 4: It's been fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'll say, what what What inspired you to have your
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  Speaker 1: own production company?
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  Speaker 3: It all started with making short form content back in
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  Speaker 3: like twenty eleven. Everyone knows playing for the New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 3: there's a certain way you have to handle the media
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  Speaker 3: when it comes to football and work. And this is
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  Speaker 3: like the beginning stages of social media where you had
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  Speaker 3: your own platform. And so with how I handled the
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  Speaker 3: media as a Patriot, it was so different or it
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  Speaker 3: was so difficult to show your personality and who you
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  Speaker 3: really were off the field. And it all started with
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  Speaker 3: making stupid smooth videos and I fell in love with it,
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  Speaker 3: got comfortable behind the camera, loved the process of you know,
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  Speaker 3: making something. You know, we started off with smoothie time,
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  Speaker 3: then it went to burger time. Then we would do
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  Speaker 3: produce these little Google glass videos and then it turned
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  Speaker 3: into a thing where you know, you have a team
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  Speaker 3: of people, you know you're behind the camera, but the
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  Speaker 3: people behind the camera all working together to make this content.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's something that's been fun and it allows
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  Speaker 3: me to be a part of a team still and
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy it. So that's kind of like where it started,
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  Speaker 3: and then turned into making documentaries and producing podcasts, having
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  Speaker 3: you know, live shows. We did pop up shops, like
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  Speaker 3: we were. I was like one of those first athletes
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  Speaker 3: on social media that was trying to identify and make
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  Speaker 3: his own brand instead of making other brands, you know,
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  Speaker 3: more valuable, Like we were talking earlier in the show,
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  Speaker 3: trying to bring value to me as a person and
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  Speaker 3: then license my name to other big brands.
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  Speaker 1: And il is hard. Okay, before there was nil, you
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  Speaker 1: know what it is.
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  Speaker 4: I wish we had it.
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  Speaker 2: Wish we had.
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  Speaker 3: You see these gosh darn freaking player lots and at
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  Speaker 3: the SEC rolling up better looking better than our player lots.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I see like six seven, eight lambows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, could imagine.
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  Speaker 3: Being twenty two dollars with like five million bucks in
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  Speaker 3: your bank account.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was I feel like it was still done.
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  Speaker 1: You remember Terrell prior back in Ohio State days and
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  Speaker 1: they're like stop coming up with new cars and he yeah, exactly, it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a tattoo of maybe one car. But you you
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  Speaker 3: roll up into these these player lines. Now, man, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Hell Cat packages everywhere, scot Pass everywhere. Oh well, Lampos
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  Speaker 1: with the with the range rope. I couldn't imagine eighteen
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  Speaker 1: nineteen years old with a range.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when we were kids to young playing in college,
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  Speaker 3: it was about like struggling.
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  Speaker 2: It was about struggling, but it was.
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  Speaker 3: About like you had a sick TV like set up
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  Speaker 3: and placed it because you were on you know, you
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  Speaker 3: lived in the Section eight housing because you didn't have
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  Speaker 3: money and you got extra money and rent was only
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  Speaker 3: like seventy five bucks and that was your way of
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  Speaker 3: kind of living fresh was you know, you had a
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  Speaker 3: big stream TV and an Xbox, sweet speakers.
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  Speaker 4: Now it's a whole different league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my biggest My biggest fear was did I have
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  Speaker 1: enough to cover rent as well as the bills and
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  Speaker 1: some like and enough money for a date. Boy, I
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  Speaker 1: ain't even worried about that right now, what's the kid?
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  Speaker 1: The five star kid that flipped from LSU to Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: They're talking about it said ten million dollars deal. I said,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I said millions me in college I
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  Speaker 1: would have I wouldn't have been a football player. I
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  Speaker 1: would be like, no, So this is it for me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be a lawyer. I've started my own
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  Speaker 1: law firm.
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  Speaker 3: It does sift out a lot of guys though. This money, right,
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  Speaker 3: this new it's gonna make it harder for, you know,
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  Speaker 3: guys to be great in the league. If you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to truly love football now as a young athlete
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  Speaker 3: to go out and basically have those blinders on with
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  Speaker 3: all the money that they could make at such an
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  Speaker 3: early stage in the life. You know, if guys can
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  Speaker 3: realize that that's just the splash of what you could
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  Speaker 3: really make, and if you just focus on football and
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  Speaker 3: you win and you perform, well, all that nil stuff
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  Speaker 3: will come on its own.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Hey.
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  Speaker 1: When I was younger i first got to the league,
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  Speaker 1: I said, look, I just want to put my head
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  Speaker 1: down and work. And it wasn't the first or second
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  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl that got me to a little bit of spotlight.
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  Speaker 2: It was like the third fourth.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Okay, now that I've established myself as as a
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  Speaker 1: great player, now I can actually like get some deals
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  Speaker 1: coming in because I wasn't in a big market. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't La New York. You know, Pat's winning Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay because there's nothing else in Green Bay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm in New Orleans, a smaller market. You know, just
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  Speaker 1: you have to you have to win as well as
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  Speaker 1: have a personality as well as you know.
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  Speaker 2: Be able to uh to push yourself in media. But man,
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  Speaker 2: just just thinking a job, not that I mean, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know shows you're still playing. You got five shows I
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  Speaker 3: see year on our show and on Fox.
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  Speaker 4: I mean you got a lot of great stuff cooking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's guys that you know, like the Mike
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  Speaker 1: straight Hands that I've watched do it you who did it?
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  Speaker 1: Which I mean you started you said back in twenty
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  Speaker 1: ten eleven, which that almost puts you out like the
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  Speaker 1: Vine days, you know, like and guys.
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  Speaker 2: Think So I showed.
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  Speaker 4: Content guys and TikTok, I swear.
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  Speaker 1: But did your meet a career like help you transition
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  Speaker 1: from the game, make it that a little bit easier
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  Speaker 1: that second phase of laugh.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I didn't know necessarily that I was going
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  Speaker 4: to get into TV. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of parlayed a deal with with Paramount for
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  Speaker 3: my production company, so I said, I would do your
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  Speaker 3: TV show right out of you know, retirement if you
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  Speaker 3: were to, you know, give my production company some funding
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  Speaker 3: and also some office space. So I kind of tried
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  Speaker 3: to parlay that. And then once I got on camera
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  Speaker 3: and started doing it and hanging out with guys like
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  Speaker 3: you know, Mike Irvy and ray Lewis, Jay James Brown
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  Speaker 3: on Inside the NFL, Brandon Marshall. Like, I realized that
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  Speaker 3: the stuff you missed when you were playing was that
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  Speaker 3: locker room environment.
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  Speaker 4: And you get a little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit of that with the TV where you get to
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  Speaker 3: talk old war stories with guys that you know from
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  Speaker 3: different generations. Now I work on Fox and you know,
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  Speaker 3: I got Charles Woodson, Michael Vic, Chris is Schrager, and
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  Speaker 3: then you have the big team with you know.
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  Speaker 4: Terry Howie, Michael.
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  Speaker 3: And It and Jimmy coach Jimmy, and you get to
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  Speaker 3: have those kind of locker room environments in the green
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  Speaker 3: rooms with those.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, and that's what you really miss.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I love I miss competing and you know
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  Speaker 3: you'll never have that because your body's not the same.
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  Speaker 4: So you get a taste of that when you jump
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  Speaker 4: in media.
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  Speaker 3: And I had a plan I had a good team
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  Speaker 3: around me when I retired, and I did a lot
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  Speaker 3: enough stuff off the field, like I said, with social
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  Speaker 3: media and creating content and where I had options after
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  Speaker 3: I played. I think a lot of guys get in trouble,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when they retire, when they have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of free time, and they don't know how to handle
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  Speaker 3: it because we're pretty much we're hurt animals. When you're
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  Speaker 3: an athlete that's been a professional athlete for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: you've been having the same schedule since you were probably
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  Speaker 3: in high school, where you go to school, you go
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  Speaker 3: to practice, you do homework, and then you do it again,
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  Speaker 3: and the school is flipped when you're a pro with
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  Speaker 3: you know, football school where you're studying and you're identifying
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  Speaker 3: other teams and you're game planning, but it's.
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  Speaker 4: The same schedule.
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  Speaker 3: So I think a lot of guys get in trouble
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  Speaker 3: when they get in you know, when they retire, when
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  Speaker 3: they don't have things to do afterwards. So it was
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  Speaker 3: great for me to have a good team and a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of things I was interested off the field that
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  Speaker 3: led into my future after football.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Tyson say, everybody got a plan to you can
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  Speaker 2: punch in the mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody swears they gonna play in the NFL for forever
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  Speaker 1: and or I'll worry about it when it's done.
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  Speaker 2: But when it's done and there ain't nothing around now, what.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta You gotta keep your chickens, as Marshaun Lynz said,
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  Speaker 3: and uh.
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  Speaker 2: Take care of your mentals. Take care of your chickens.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, take carry your chickens.
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  Speaker 1: No, you got the You got the podcast with Gromp
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  Speaker 1: and co hosts and Dudes with Dudes. When I when
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  Speaker 1: I scrolled through the ig earlier, I was like, Dudes
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  Speaker 1: on Dudes.
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  Speaker 2: Dudes with Dudes is way better title, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Dudes, but oh, you guys also work on Fox NFL Sunday,
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  Speaker 5: So like, how did how that go with your teammates
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  Speaker 5: to to partners on the pod?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Dues on Dudes has been fun. It's a
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  Speaker 3: fun concept. Funny concept where we go out and we
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  Speaker 3: determine what kind of dude each guy, uh is that
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  Speaker 3: we go over. So there's five different dudes. There's a
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  Speaker 3: dude's dude, there's a freak, there's a stud, there's a whiz,
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  Speaker 3: and there's a dog. They all have their kind of
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  Speaker 3: forms of how we think they are. A dude's dude's
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  Speaker 3: a glue guy, a dog someone who's mentally, physically, emotionally,
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  Speaker 3: just mentally tough. Stud is a guy that has pedigree,
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  Speaker 3: he's always been great, freak, is a one of a kind.
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  Speaker 4: And then a dude's dude's a glue guy.
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  Speaker 3: And it's been fun to guind of go over guys
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  Speaker 3: that we played against, legends of the past and guys
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  Speaker 3: that you know are playing now and kind of determining
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  Speaker 3: what kind of dude each guy is, because that's what
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  Speaker 3: you do when you're in the locker room and you're
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  Speaker 3: sitting there with the homies with your five minute meeting
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  Speaker 3: before the next or a five minute break in the
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  Speaker 3: locker room before your next meeting.
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  Speaker 4: You sit there and you're like, man, do you watch
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  Speaker 4: that dude on film? Man? He was crazy. That was insane.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: That's what we all do when we're in the locker room.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you're studying guys. It's kind of funny to
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  Speaker 3: hear you're studying guy.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you pair that up with my dudes on
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  Speaker 1: dudes coming, and then it gets real real freaky. May
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  Speaker 1: tell you you know there should be a six category though,
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  Speaker 1: like there should there should be one like category, the
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  Speaker 1: one b dudes, you know, like the.
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  Speaker 2: Dudes that that that.
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  Speaker 1: That talk like they want to be in the league,
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  Speaker 1: talk like they want to be the guy, but when
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  Speaker 1: they walk you like, I don't really see what you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. You know, the ones that like, I want
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  Speaker 1: to live. You know, I'm a hard hitter, but he's
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  Speaker 1: not really a hard hitter. The one that you know, frauds, fraudulents,
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  Speaker 1: fraudulent activities of plenty.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know we could do that, but we want to.
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  Speaker 2: You want to.
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  Speaker 3: We want to celebrate and uplift guys. Okay, in our
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  Speaker 3: sport and other sports. You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of place on the internet for bringing guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just check just check x out. I want to
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  Speaker 1: say Twitter, but yeah, if you want some darkness, go
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  Speaker 1: to x excell. Let you know exactly what you never
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be. We're celebrating, celebrate absolutely What kind of
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  Speaker 1: dude would I be?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 3: Man, dude, look at it, first team All Pro, bunch
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  Speaker 3: of Pro Bowl, second team All Pro. You got a pedigree,
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  Speaker 3: you could be just a straight out stud. Mm hm,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you're a stud.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to love that, jumping into a You're.
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  Speaker 3: Already jumping into another workforce while you're in the other.
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  Speaker 3: Like anything you touch you're good at. So I would
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  Speaker 3: put you in the stud category. Eleven sacks on a
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  Speaker 3: quiet ear for you, that's like stud right there. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you get a fit in here. But man, maybe missed
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  Speaker 3: a couple with the ankle. Morgan, he'll get nine and
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  Speaker 3: a half, ten sacks, get a few and get a
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  Speaker 3: five second.
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  Speaker 4: Did you have like a six sac game one?
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  Speaker 2: I remember watching four four, just four?
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  Speaker 4: I remember that. That's a stunt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the Cantlanta Falcons, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Against the Vision rival. That's even better. People realize that's hard.
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  Speaker 3: You guys see each other twice a year. That's hard.
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  Speaker 2: On Thanksgiving Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, you're thankful for those four SATs.
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  Speaker 2: No doubt. I had the wings and the legs. Give
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  Speaker 2: me all four. Give me that. Did you get the
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  Speaker 2: leg Oh yeah, you know I did.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta get you gotta get the dry turkey because
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  Speaker 1: it's been sitting there for like an hour. I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that that that turkey. You're trying to You're trying to
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  Speaker 1: answer questions while you got you need to like they
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  Speaker 1: need to at least bring some like cranberry juice or like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of sparkling champagne something something something.
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  Speaker 3: Thanksgiving, I probably would have got a turkey leg, but
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  Speaker 3: I was knocked out.
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  Speaker 4: After I got my.
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  Speaker 3: I got obliterated reset button on a on a reverse.
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  Speaker 3: But it was the butt fumble game. Remember the the
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  Speaker 3: Mark Sanchez butt fumble.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's only one butt fumble game.
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  Speaker 4: That was on Thanksgiving?
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  Speaker 2: Geez was it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: It was in so we I scored a touchdown, like
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  Speaker 3: a deep one, like a forty five yard touchdown.
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  Speaker 4: Brady hit me on a blitz zero, then the butt.
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  Speaker 3: Then we were kicking off, uh McKnight rip he mccordy
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  Speaker 3: hit McKnight on kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: The ball popped up in the air.
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  Speaker 3: I took the ball in mid air and ran it
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  Speaker 3: for a touchdown. So we scored big touchdown that touchdown,
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  Speaker 3: and then the very next drive was the butt fumble.
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  Speaker 3: We scored like twenty one points and freaking like twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight seconds or something.
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  Speaker 4: It was gnarly.
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  Speaker 3: That's Thanksgiving. That's that's a tease. What we have coming
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  Speaker 3: next week for all you listeners. Thanksgiving is a very
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  Speaker 3: fun day for everyone to have their platform and their
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  Speaker 3: tradition of getting to play.
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  Speaker 4: Football on Thanksgiving.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: All right, did you you thirty years Yeah? Yeah, I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: chuck up Fall holidays as a loss. Anyways, I'm like, yo,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: like all all the spring holidays that that's what Dad's
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: here for. That's what I'm here for, you know, Summer
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: for sure, and fall. Hey, if I'm there, I'm there,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make the best of it. If I'm not,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't expect to be there. I expected to have
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: practice on Thanksgiving. I expect to have practice on Christmas.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to win. And if when it takes me
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: not being around for Thanksgiving a Christmas, that's all right
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: if you if you're good enough person, you make every
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: day Christmas anyways.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: But you know, I look at it also as what
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, when you when you're playing with guys,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: at least where I was at, you're with family, their family.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: You know, you spend so much goddamn time with your
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: teammates more than you do with your family during the
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: football season, that it's always super exciting on those holidays,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: New Year's, Thanksgiving, Christmas when you had a practice here,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: you had a game, and there was always some sort
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: of excitement. If it was a practice, you had your
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: practice on the practice field. Then you had short days,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: so after practice you got to go home and spend
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: it with the family. It was just there was always
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: a bit of excitement I felt when it was a
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: holiday and you had to practice and you know, you
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: had a game on there and then afterwards you get
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to go spend it with the family.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I just enjoyed. That's what we know as football players.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely bro I remember my younger years before we had
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: like our first couple of games on Thanksgiving. We would
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: practice on Thanksgiving and then we would have you know
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: practice early, like it'll be like a half day. But
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: after that practice, we had the Turkey Bowl where the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: coaches would line up for you know, defensive coaches versus
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: office coaches for one play if it's either a stop
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: or go you know what I'm saying, Like it's the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: if we had the boomboss going music playing, and the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: guys loved it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Look forward to it, look forward to it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Nothing more fun watching coaches go out and compete against
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: each other.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Mother fuck them for their technique.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, talking all types of craziness. You lock coach. You
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: said you sposed to shad coach. You are too high
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: on the right, right on the quarterback. You knew better
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: give me that double dick on.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: The release, get all give me a swine? Why daddy,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: all those.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Caps are looking big, No doubt. Dan Campbell at tight end.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like back in his back
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: this glory day, run a little hunh, Sean Payton trying
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to toss one tool. Meanwhile, you know got guys like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Brian Young pass rushing with like like, oh this giving
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: it man.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: I love Brian. Remember you used to wear the double
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: helmet on the helmet.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, you're doing the Guardian cap.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Cool exactly, That's wild. Did you should talk about team camaraderie?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: This is like the loyalty factor? You know, he played
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: pretty much like the whole career with one team. Yeah, Like,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: is that like a badge of honor? Because I feel
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: like I feel like it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Is it is in this day and age, I think
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: it is a badge of honor. And I remember, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: when I was going through the free agent processes of
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: potentially leaving, we had something special, you know, and and
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I knew that I may have got more money going
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: to another place. But you know, say you go to
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: another place, you get a new coaching stuff. In two years,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: you're not making money. You know, you got a new
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: regime coming in. It's just you know, it's different. It
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: was always special when you when you were a kid
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: and you had your favorite guy that stayed on one team.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: So I do wear it is a badge of honor.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm very blessed and honored that I got to
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: be a New England Patriot my whole career.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I couldn't I say, I couldn't imagine you
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: anywhere else. This sort of felt like like you know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: not to down play, like like like the Wels Welker,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you know, like the Jerry Rice, the you know, like
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: the all Time Grace. You think of like one team
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's on another, and it
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: just doesn't feel the same. Nomd Awesome Wall, you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like go to Philly, You're like you're the guy, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: then because you're on a different team.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he wasn't old Namdi anymore.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm like. Yeah, it's just like.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: We like it just feels wrong as a fan like
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Brett Favre, because I was born in Minnesota, possibly for
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: the Vikings. I hated Green Bay all my life. And
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: next thing I know, he's dawning of Vikings Jersey. I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was disgusted. I stopped being a fan for a short time.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I it's but it's also a different generation
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and a different age with fans because of fantasy football,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and back when we were kids, at least when I
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: was a kid, fantasy was just coming around.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: But you didn't you know, you didn't know. You only
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: watched your team.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Now you know, I'll be when you were playing, you
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: roll into another city and then someone rolls up to
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: you and says, man, you got me eight points in
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: fantasy last week.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Thanks bro right Minnesota.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I mean growing up, I did. I don't remember NFL
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: all access pass. This is the accessibility of it all.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: You were locked in on your team, like your team,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: like that's that's it. There was no you know, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: don't know if it definitely was at YouTube in ninety
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: five ninety six, like.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: So where were you catching the highlights for the game?
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So sports Center, Sports Center, I'm exactly top ten, if
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you'll take it wasn't on it.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's it. That was it.
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: You see that SAT Sports Center clip five times?
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: All right? Man, Like at this point, I'm fourteen years
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in with the Saints, Like could you imagine, like I've
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: imagined myself Donna in a different jersey, and I was like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it's worth it.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: That's what Like, that's what it comes down to.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Like all money isn't good money because like you said,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you got head coach changes, you're just going in and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: now you're you're like, oh, he's just it him as
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a OG instead of like an integral piece. There's there's
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: so many different ways you could look at it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: But there's comfort, there's you know, there's comfort costs money.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Man. You know, if you want to go somewhere else,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you have to learn a whole new system.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: You gotta learn a new team. You got you gotta
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: learn new people in the building. Uh.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: You know, when you're with some place forever, you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: for a long time, and you roll up and you
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: see our parking lady give you know a hub.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: You know everybody for five minutes.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: You go into the cafeteria, you see all your lunch
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: ladies and lunch people. You know you're walking through the
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: tunnel and you see all Marv who works on the field.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: You know, there's just a there's a there's a thing
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: about being with somewhere for a long time.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: That's just you know, it's special exactly.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You know when when you're when your guy personnel guys
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: at him, you know, knows all the kids. You know,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Tyler Photographer's he's like, hey, if you ever need just
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: regular photos, just let me know.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You know, just like great people that you're gonna build
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: like a rapport with.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: In Boston, you get like a bunch of There's be
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Mary Anne, There'd be a Shahleen gas pipe over there
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: down in the hall. You know, all these all these
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Boston people. So you have a relationship and it becomes
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: part of.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Who you are absolutely life alone.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You know, since I don't have a Super Bowl trophy,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you, do you where do you
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: keep your Super Bowl MVP trophy.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: It's in the studio.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: It's in the nuthouse, Yeah it is, Yeah, so we do.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: It's we have if you watch our show, we have
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: a cool like wall of memorabilia through the years, which
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: was essentially just a bunch of that was sent to
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: me after I retired. Where you accumulate boxes and boxes
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: of things, as you know in.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: The locker room over years.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Uh, it was it was fun to go through that
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and put it all on the wall for the show.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: And and that's where that that that trophy.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Is dirty, dirty Tiffany's boy. I wish I got a
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: car though, And it was the first.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Year he didn't give a goddamn car for Super Bowl
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: MVP bla bro. And even though the cars get old,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I remember when I was a young player. You know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Tom got an m VP and he had his like
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: his escalade uh in the parking lot, and it'd be
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: like five eight years old, but it was still a
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl car, like MVP car that held drive.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: Every once in a while.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Dion Branch had a Cadillac Coop that he got when
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: he won one. So it was like a badge of honor,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: you know, because everyone always.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: Had their new cars in the lot.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: But if you saw this like six five six year
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: old car, roll up in there and you're like, oh, what, oh,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: MVP car, MVP.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Car, didn't didn't uh, didn't good old Tom by James
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: White a suo give him the Super Bowl MVP car.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: What I think he gave him.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I think he gave Malcolm Butler the car after the pick. Okay,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: so I think, you know, But then Thom's had so
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: many of those things it's it's hard to track that
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: for accounting and tax reasons.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: So he probably just gave it away.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with this and don't write
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: it down. Give it, give it to my dog.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: You know, you're one of only nine receivers to win
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP. You know this?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: No, I didn't know there was nine?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you name the other eight?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I know Jerry did it. I know Holmes did it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: I know, Uh Cook did it. Dion Branch did it.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: That's four. Who else did Lynn Swan do it?
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he did? Okay one historian over here?
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Five?
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Who else where? Steve Other said Stealers? Uh did I
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: say homes? I said homes right, yep.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: But you're missing one.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Another Steelers Hines.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there we go.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: It was too I forget. So that's six. I got
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: two more.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: One of them became like an award, college award.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: One of them became a college award. What years?
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Uh that is at the very beginning right after Lynn Swan.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's one of those tough guys.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Fred Blittnikoff.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Blittant cough, the blatant cough with the.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Fun exactly, ka boom. That's the only reason why they
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: might have then. Yeah, yeah, that's impressive. And Desmond Howard
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: and well, he was a kick returner mm hmm.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: That was with the Packers when he ran, when he
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: housed it, You're.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Like, okay, you're not gonna claim him.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: We'll claim I'm a teamer. You know, I'm a part
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: returner too, so we'll definitely claim him. But like when
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you think of Dejien Howard, I don't remember him.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: You remember him as.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: His receiver, but he always had such a lectrifying like
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: kickoff returns.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: I remember that when that was in the Super Bowl.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: No, he's even fun.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And he was like remember him and Dante Hall back
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: in the day, do I joy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Stick exactly you?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And then but then they followed up with, you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: possibly the greatest returner ever just a few years later
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: with with Devin Hester, and I was like, I was.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I was like, nobody's gonna be better than Dteo.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Devin Hester showed up. I was like nobody's gonna be
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: better than Danteo, than Devin Hester and Corde Cordero.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Well, okay, you gotta put some love to Cribs too.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Josh crib a monster on special teams for a long time.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: And I remember when I was at Kent State and
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: he was the quarterback before me at Kent State. And
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: when we go up to Cleveland, people forget how big
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Josh Cribbs was. I mean he was on the sides
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: of buildings for Nike ads, like the guy in Cleveland.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Their only form of any kind of offense, and it
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: was on special teams, and they used to do a
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: bunch of wildcat stuff. So Josh Cribbs got to be
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: put in there too. For returners, Sharon Sproles was really
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: good at a punt returning. Jackson DeShawn Jackson home runner.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I just still see him catching. I don't know, he's
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: still catching seventy yard touchdowns. I think he just caught
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: another fifty five yard touchdowns. I don't know how let
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: this guy get behind you every time every time because the.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Sort and has like the deceptive speed bro like, and
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you're just like, how is he that fast gliding glid?
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: I mean that's that's one of these God touch you
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: with that.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Speed, guy give you a little he just touched you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean with with your Lester's career, Like
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you're you're coming up on eligibility of you
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: know what that h O F how you like? You
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: know how what does it even feel to be like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: mentioned in that same sentence because that's that's rare air.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: H you know, it's it's a it's pretty cool. I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: mean usually it's a lot of negative talk if anyone's
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: talking about it, but uh, if they're talking about it
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: and even putting you in that sentence, uh, it's pretty
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: damn cool.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: But ultimately that was never my goal.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Uh when I when I was playing football, my goal
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: is the the hote of a Lombardi Trophy. And I
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: got to do that three times and playing four times
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: five I didn't play with my A C.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: L year.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: But you know, so like that's where I'm content. But
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: you know, it's an absolute honor that people even talk
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: about it because you look at the names and the
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: people and the guys that I grew up watching and
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: guys peers that I played with that have already gone
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: in like you know, those that's that's the cream of
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the crop right there.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Facts you look at your postseason status, I mean postseason
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: stats where you know, your stats speak the loudest, third
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: all time in playoff res even yards third all time,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and playoff receptions, like you know, like it's it's.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a hell of a run. It was
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: a hell of a run.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Still gonna remember, probably one one of the greatest catches
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in Super Bowl history.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: So like if we're saying, we're saying, you know, those
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: stats matter.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: I mean some would say that those stats matter the most,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: but usually be winners.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: You don't want three of them things lower.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Just you know, it was still cool to be a
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: part of that organization. I mean, I remember when I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: got drafted New England. I was a huge Niners fan
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: growing up. Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, Roger Craig, Brent Jones,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Ken Norton and the success that they had when you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: I was really young, and then they got the Super
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: Bowl in the nineties when I was pretty.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Much able to remember.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: But they were such a folk lore of a team
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: to our family. And then to get drafted to New
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: England and they had three Super Bowls at the time when.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: I got drafted there and they were kind of getting.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: In that that like Niners, Steelers, Cowboys world of organizations.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: You know. It was like it was just like I
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: was pinching myself because I was.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Like, man, I'm on the San Francisco forty nine ers
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: of this generation when I first got there, you know,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: with Tom Brady had the quarterback and you had the
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: coach they had, you know, Niners have Bill Walsh, we
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: have Belichack and the great defenses and the key players around. Like,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: it was just it was such a cool thing to
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: be a part of. I'm you know, I'm really thankful
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: for that. I don't know if it's because of Thanksgiving,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: but I just got so much thankfulness going right.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So you had Tom Brady and come out
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: of out of a you know, Michigan, and I was
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: like seven round pick in his story, your story, like
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that you guys are are great teammates.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like, is there you know, I'm
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: thinking of.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: The game last night when you watch you know, game whatever,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: this last game where you watched Jameis Winston inspire the
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns to go rally past the Steelers.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about get your lesture's career.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Was there ever a need for Tom to give you
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: like a rally who rah, like you know with you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: guys padded the success was there? Was there every time
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this one we knew, we
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: go kick it in gear. I just I just feel
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: like Tom Brady in my mind is always like business
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: as usual. Look, we're gonna we're gonna give me, I'm
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: gonna take the rock. I'm gonna give you the rock.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna win.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's definitely been some stuff captured on
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the sidelines of Tom being vocal, but you know, as
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: with Tom, there was a lot of unseen stuff, individuals
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: stuff if he knew you were having a hard day,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: or he knew something was going on in someone's life
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: or someone need to pick me up. You know, it
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: may not have been around people, but he you know,
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  Speaker 3: he'd walk you over and you know.
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  Speaker 4: See see what was up and what he could do
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  Speaker 4: to help to get you better.
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  Speaker 3: And I think there was countless of those times because,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: as you know, the NFL season is such a grind mentally, emotionally, physically,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and that's all just within the game, and the people
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: don't realize that you're a regular human being and you
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: have off the field and regular life stuff that you
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: have to deal with. Family, male family matters, health of family,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: things of those magnitude and those things going on in
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: your life, which that's hard to juggle for young eyes.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: And you know Tom was a vetro and I got
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: in there, so he was as he was always a
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: great guy that could you know, give me through his
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: experience advice. So he's he's always a guy that could
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: with a lot of guys, you know, with with anyone.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't be necessarily in front of people, but he
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: would always kind of, you know, buddy up with you
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: in the locker room and kind of see what was
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: going on.
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  Speaker 2: Mmm.
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  Speaker 3: I mean true leaders, leaders all, they all have different
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: ways of leading.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Facts. Facts all.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Let's let's transition to a little bit lighter talk about
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: a fun topic just because you know, now you're in
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: LA you've spent your entire career with Boston. Hit a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: little East coast versus West coast lower here, but we'll
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: do a fun section called versus where you know we'll
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: ask you, I'll ask you a few questions about which
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: is better l A or Boston.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: And as a fact, kid, we're gonna start off with
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the important question better food.
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  Speaker 4: Oh it's tough. I have to go l A. Yeah,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: I have to go La.
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  Speaker 3: Now if you want like unbelievable lobster oysters.
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  Speaker 4: Italian.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Boston is really great, but I have a bias
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: because I come.
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  Speaker 4: I'm from California and.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I love Mexican food and the Mexican food out and
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: in Boston I found my one what is it a
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: hualastcos is pretty good.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: But just pound for pound thanking out here. I gotta
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: go with the Mexican.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I can't get the Italian of the East Coast, but
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I'm a Mexican food guy.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: I'd rather go on to Enchilada.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Oh I'm a Chili riano or carneacta fries. Every time
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I hit the West Coast, I need the carneo fries.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: They're not hitting the same in Louisiana. Nah, all right, no, Uh,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you're better restaurants.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: Better.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: See that's a I like that difference of that question.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: I would go with Boston. I have more fun and
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I like the restaurant game there because it's a different environment. Uh,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: you know, La, you go to the restaurant and seen
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: and see me. You know, sometimes you just want to
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: go have a nice meal with a couple of boys
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: in like a little little Brownstone under you know, an
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: establishment in Boston where you to hide out, get some
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: you know, oysters, get you know, so for restaurants. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I love you know, Ken Oranger and his restaurants out
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: in Boston, a bunch. I got a bunch of friends
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: in that chef world in Boston. I'm gonna have to
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: go with Boston.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Better night life, la Yeah, easily, easily.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like the one time I went to Boston,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I think they like they kept the bottles or something
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: like that, and they would like only like the poor.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: You know, you got to you gotta realize, you know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I played for the Patriot.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: It's you.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: You're doing to do what you wanted.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: You could do that. We had a lot of wins.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: We had a lot of fun times. I love the
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: night life in Boston. But some like, you go to Boston,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: everyone's gonna be watching you.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: You go to l a nobody caps.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: Right next door, ain't nobody watching?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Too many sports teams, too many celebrities, too many flights
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: on the.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Street, you ain't going you see Tom Hanks and Pole Foods,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: you ain't messing with him with me.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Better sports city as far as teams, fans and traditions.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Oh it's come on, It's titled town Boston.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I mean I went to every damn championship there was
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: in pro sport. I played in Super Bowls, won Super Bowls.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I went to you know, the Bruins winning the Cup.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: I've been to the Red Sox winning the championship, sat
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: courtside with the Celtics winning the championships.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I've been to them all. I've been to them all.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You can't argue that better vibe I like.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I like the Boston vibe. Yeah, you know l A.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: You know how LA is. Everyone's after here.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I's actingst They.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Might be a little meaner, but they're not meaner. They're
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: just honest.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Is that what you're gonna cover for them? Got it?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Honest?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: But I tell you right now, you walk down the
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: street in Boston, you say hi to someone, They're gonna
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: look at you sideways.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: You do that, and someone's gonna be, oh, what do
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: you do this?
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: That?
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: But if you walk down the street.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: In Boston and something happened to you and you got
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: hit or some you were injured, you needed help. That
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: mean ass person that wouldn't say anything to you would
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: help you more than the person in LA would help you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay, solid right there.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: That's It'd be an asshole the whole time doing it, but.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: They would help you. How you running the street and
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: you didn't see it coming.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I got a clear I got a terrible
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Boston accent. I would never get it down.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: It's tough. Don't pronounce any r. It's like having.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: That's that's tough. Hey man, Well, I appreciate you, you know,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you hopping on the pod. Uh, clearly, I'm
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: gonna have to come on your pod.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Dudes on Dudes with Dudes.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Games with Names, which is their fun podcast where we
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: go over historical games in all sport with someone that's
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: played in the game to get their perspective on how
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: they prepared, what the game yume was like, what the
• 40:35
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• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Culture was going around during that time. It's a fun way.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: So if you want to learn about dudes and what
• 40:43
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• 40:45
  Speaker 4: But if you want to learn.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: About games, and you want to talk about historic games.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: You go to games with names. Do your games? Which
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: one do you want? We got them both, great question.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: I need to know what type of dude I am
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: or what type of dude I'm about to play.
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: So I love that anytime you got all pros, you
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: got moles, you got Hella sacks, everywhere, You've been on
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: one team for one your whole career, Like, that's a
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: freaking stud.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you know Steve Jordan, Cam Jordan's two teams
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: so far, you know, in New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: So that's so, that's that's legacy too, legacy legacy. You
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: came out of a stud too. You know, horses you got,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: You're part of that study.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: When you said pedigree, I was like, dang, yeah, pedigree,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: pedigree applies.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you got I mean you came
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: from you came from one greatness.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: Anyway, let me let me get you out of here. Man,
• 41:47
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• 41:49
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• 41:52
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• 41:54
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• 41:58
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• 42:01
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• 42:04
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• 42:11
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• 42:12
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• 42:15
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• 42:20
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