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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Sherry Poland, Jonathan Pearson, Judge Napolitano, Josh Gerth · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Live 05. F55KRC. The Talk Station. Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. Call
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Loggins because you're in the danger zone. Yeah, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Republicans may be in the danger zone if we don't
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  Speaker 1: get off our butts and go out and vote. Coming up,
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  Speaker 1: a big picture with Jack Adler. Can't wait until 7.05.
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  Speaker 1: And good morning, everyone. My name is Brian Thomas, host
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  Speaker 1: of the 55 KRC Morning Show. Joe Strecker, I look
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  Speaker 1: where he belongs. God bless it. And hire Joe Strecker
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  Speaker 1: if you have a podcast you want to do. Joe
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  Speaker 1: sideline Joe's got going. And he's the best in the
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  Speaker 1: business as far as I'm concerned. I want to hear
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  Speaker 1: that from everybody who does a podcast with Joe Strecker.
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  Speaker 1: But that aside, 55KRC. iHeart. com, the blog page, web page, information page,
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  Speaker 1: can get the iHeartMedia app. Daniel Davis, deep dive, not
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  Speaker 1: a lot of great news coming out of the situation
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  Speaker 1: with Russia, Ukraine, or U.S. and Iran. Of course, the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians continue to expand their threats. Scott Duhuthi's hard at
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  Speaker 1: work blowing up the Saudi Arabians and Theaters of war expanding.
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  Speaker 1: When you think about the attack on the Air Force
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  Speaker 1: Base or the, well, foiled attack on the Air Force
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  Speaker 1: Base in England, that is a field of battle. One
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  Speaker 1: Air Force Base in England. It's the United States Air
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  Speaker 1: Force Base. That's a target. That's anywhere around the globe.
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  Speaker 1: They got some nutcase Islamic fundamentalist murderer and they want to, well,
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  Speaker 1: Attack the United States. Just look around you. We are
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  Speaker 1: literally everywhere around the globe. Obviously, that's complicating, but you've
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  Speaker 1: got to hear what Daniel Davis says every week. Got
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  Speaker 1: the inside scoop of Breitbart News. Bradley Jay, who did
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  Speaker 1: a power use seminar last night. I hope that was good.
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  Speaker 1: And Tom Zawistowski, wethepeopleconvention.org. It's all at 55krc. iheart. com. Please call me, 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
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  Speaker 1: Bound 550 on your AT & T phone. It's got
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  Speaker 1: something to talk about, maybe like the upcoming election. 705,
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  Speaker 1: it's Jack Atherton. As I mentioned a moment ago, the
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  Speaker 1: Today topic, Trump's tragic flaw. Interesting. Sounds like Jack may
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  Speaker 1: be levying a criticism against Donald Trump, which is not
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  Speaker 1: like Jack, but you and I are going to find
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  Speaker 1: out together. I don't have any advance notice beyond those
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  Speaker 1: three words, what we're talking about today. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Donald O'Neill, State Director for Americans for Prosperity Action in Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: Got a list of topics that we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: going over with Donovan this morning. Oh, he's on the
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  Speaker 1: show on Wednesdays at 730. AFP actions, government push, or
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  Speaker 1: go TV push, I should more clearly say. 800,000 doors knocked,
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  Speaker 1: less than three weeks to go. Got to get out
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  Speaker 1: and knock doors. And it's not too late to help out.
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  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity makes it so easy. Hispanic Heritage Month. Libra.
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  Speaker 1: They hosted a town hall with Senator Bernie Moreno. to
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  Speaker 1: discuss the opportunity and issues affecting Hispanic families. Little Hispanic outreach,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a good thing for Republican candidates to engage in. Plus,
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  Speaker 1: equipping Ohioans to fight for freedoms. Fight socialism campaign. Hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of folks helped out on that one. Donovan's going to
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge that. We'll find out if, well, we did any
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  Speaker 1: good in connection with that effort. Followed by Sherry Poland.
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  Speaker 1: Hamilton County Board of Elections, Sherry Poland. And you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Continuing a theme, every election, yes, poll workers are needed.
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  Speaker 1: It's not too late to sign up to register for
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  Speaker 1: being a poll worker. Let's say you're a family of
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  Speaker 1: a high school senior who's 17. I think that person
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  Speaker 1: now qualifies, got something to put down on the resume,
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  Speaker 1: work the polls, engage in civic responsibility, and not a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of folks willing to do that. But if
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  Speaker 1: he can work the polls, Sherry's going to, of course,
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  Speaker 1: tell you all about it. Jonathan Pearson, he's a candidate
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  Speaker 1: for county commissioner. Not a whole lot of, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen Pearson signs around? Is the Hamilton County
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party, Josh Gerth, for example, who's going to be
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  Speaker 1: on the program at 845? Are they helping out Jonathan Pearson?
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  Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Jonathan at 805, followed by
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  Speaker 1: Judge Anna Napolitano with his, well, he's against the death
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  Speaker 1: penalty as well. A culture of death. And I told
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  Speaker 1: him I agreed with him because I don't believe the
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  Speaker 1: state should be able to take a life because the
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  Speaker 1: state can screw up, and it does so regularly. Leave
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  Speaker 1: someone in jail, let them rot in misery, because that's
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  Speaker 1: ultimately what jail is. It's hell on earth. So you
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  Speaker 1: get the hell here that we create for them, and
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  Speaker 1: when they finally expire, they can enjoy the hell in
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  Speaker 1: the hereafter. So there you go. Josh Gerth, as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: after Judge Andrew Napolitano, GOP signs destroyed in Sims Township.
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  Speaker 1: You children out there, you going after yard signs? Plus,
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  Speaker 1: a new ad campaign against Carrie Bloom, Judge Bloom, speaking
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  Speaker 1: of Hamilton County issues. Magistrate Lucan is the safe bet
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  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County. If you want to set juveniles on
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  Speaker 1: the right path, you've got to involve them in the
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  Speaker 1: criminal justice system and hold them accountable. It's the slap
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  Speaker 1: on the wrist that they need because apparently no one
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  Speaker 1: else cares what they're doing. So let's see here.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-mm.
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  Speaker 1: Going back to Sherry Poland and a, well, maybe disturbing.
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  Speaker 1: It is early and historical trends show that Republicans show
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  Speaker 1: up on election day rather than early vote. But some
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  Speaker 1: numbers are pouring in. WCPO's Morgan Trout says early Ohio numbers.
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  Speaker 1: So Democrats are coming out to vote more than they
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  Speaker 1: did in 2024 and 2022. And they have come out
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  Speaker 1: to vote early more than the Republicans by decent numbers.
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  Speaker 1: So they pulled data from the Secretary of State's office.
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  Speaker 1: Early voting by registered party shows that Democrats are outperforming
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  Speaker 1: Republicans across the state, in some cases quadrupling their numbers
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  Speaker 1: from Ohio's last gubernatorial race in 2022. According to Senator
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  Speaker 1: Bill DeMara, Democrats right now are more enthusiastic about voting.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know where the enthusiasm comes from other than
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  Speaker 1: I go back to the whole concept of Trump derangement syndrome.
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  Speaker 1: It's a disease that's taken hold of so many people
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  Speaker 1: to the point where they act delusional. You can hate
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but don't suspend your logic and reason. Dear God,
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  Speaker 1: you don't like Donald Trump? Fine. Why would you want
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  Speaker 1: to go communist? You don't like Donald Trump? Fine. Why
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  Speaker 1: would you vote for a candidate who thinks it's A-OK
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  Speaker 1: to lop off the genitals of a male child because
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  Speaker 1: that child at age, oh, I don't know, 14 or something,
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  Speaker 1: thinks they're a girl? Yeah, none of us changed from
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  Speaker 1: their early teen years into adulthood. Our ideals and our understanding,
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  Speaker 1: it all remains static, and it doesn't involve beyond the
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  Speaker 1: age of 14 or whatever age they're engaging in this
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  Speaker 1: horrific Mengele-like conduct. Yeah, go ahead and vote for that
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  Speaker 1: because you don't like Trump. Anyway, so according to these
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  Speaker 1: numbers here, as of yesterday, 2,300 votes have been cast.
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  Speaker 1: This is early voting. Democrats, 95,000. Unaffiliated voters, 67,000. Republicans, 64,000.
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  Speaker 1: So we're trailing even unaffiliated voters, but certainly Democrats. Minor
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  Speaker 1: parties only have about 400, whatever a minor party counts as. Maybe, well,
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  Speaker 1: the Communist Party running independent of the big tent of
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats. Hamilton County, here's a key thing, 7,800 ballots
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  Speaker 1: so far. But in 2022, there were only 2,000 had
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  Speaker 1: been cast by this moment in time. So we got
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  Speaker 1: a 300% increase in ballots cast here in Camelton County.
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  Speaker 1: But the big difference from 2024, when Trump dominated in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: right now, at this point in the race in 2024, 36%
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  Speaker 1: of early voters were Republicans, 26% Democrats, the remaining unaffiliated.
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  Speaker 1: This year, 41% of early voters are Democrat and only 28%
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  Speaker 1: are Republican. So it seems to me it's almost an
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  Speaker 1: identical flip from where we were in 2024. People, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: were excited. They were enthusiastic. Republicans, let me just switch
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  Speaker 1: Senator Bill DeMora's quote and say Republicans right now are
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  Speaker 1: more enthusiastic about voting. He could have said that in 2024.
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  Speaker 1: And look at the outcome. Trump, well, blew away his
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  Speaker 1: competitor in Ohio. And he writes, Democrats also showed up
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  Speaker 1: in red counties in the 81 counties that Trump carried
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  Speaker 1: in 2024. Democrats were about 20% of the early voters. Republicans, 44.
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  Speaker 1: This year, both are tied at 39%. So the enthusiasm
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  Speaker 1: gap has been, I guess, eroded or whittled away, depending
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  Speaker 1: on which direction you're going to look at it. Pivoting
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  Speaker 1: over to Republican strategist Bob Clegg, who.
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  Speaker 1: State of the obvious in being interviewed for the article here,
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  Speaker 1: early voting in the end really tells you nothing. So
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  Speaker 1: don't be disheartened because, again, Republicans show up in large
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  Speaker 1: numbers on Election Day. But what if you can't make
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  Speaker 1: it to Election Day? Do you know right now what
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  Speaker 1: state of health you're going to be in on Election Day?
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  Speaker 1: I certainly don't know. So why not take a moment
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  Speaker 1: and allocate some time To get over to the Board
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  Speaker 1: of Elections and cast your vote. Honestly, I'm very worried.
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  Speaker 4: For our country.
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  Speaker 1: And this is a pivotal election. I think we can
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  Speaker 1: say that over and over again, and it doesn't change.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's the truth, a pivotal election. So while
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  Speaker 1: Trump makes the rounds, he was in Youngstown just the
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  Speaker 1: other day. Barack Obama is heading over to Cleveland. Two,
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  Speaker 1: a rally for U.S. Senator Sherrod Brown as well as Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton. So Barack Obama is, well, coming out of
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  Speaker 1: his hole and starting the campaign trail. So Trump's making
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  Speaker 1: the rounds all over in Ohio. And that's exactly something
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  Speaker 1: Republican strategist Bob Clegg pointed to. He said the crowds
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  Speaker 1: have not been very full regarding Trump's recent visits. He's
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  Speaker 1: been around here a lot. At what point do you say, OK,
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  Speaker 1: referring to Donald Trump's repeated visits to Ohio? I guess
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  Speaker 1: he's suggesting in that comment that maybe Trump's not doing
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot to get people enthused. Your call on
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  Speaker 1: that one. OK, visited Ohio twice in 10 days, and
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  Speaker 1: I guess he's due back for another visit. So hopefully
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  Speaker 1: it'll help. But at this point, it's anybody's guess. And
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  Speaker 1: at this point, you know, early voting in the end
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  Speaker 1: really tells you nothing. 516-55KRC Detox Station. You can call 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody else is following this Cornell
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  Speaker 1: fraternity gang rape story, which is really kind of head-scratchy.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't even involve the history of it or what
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  Speaker 1: exactly happened or the reprimand that the university levied against
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  Speaker 1: the kids when this was first reported. The change in story,
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  Speaker 1: the rape victim, and I'm not going to minimize the
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  Speaker 1: trauma that this girl went through. Although I will note
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  Speaker 1: that it seemed to me it was Cornell University was
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  Speaker 1: passing around information about, hey, it's okay to do three
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  Speaker 1: ways and all kinds of different sexual experiences. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: don't judge anybody. Just because your morality doesn't allow for
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  Speaker 1: this kind of activity doesn't mean that other people can
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  Speaker 1: do it. You can cast dispersions on them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: materials along those lines. So whether or not they welcome
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  Speaker 1: this kind of thing. But what bothers me about this,
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  Speaker 1: having been a member of a fraternity, that they're pushing
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  Speaker 1: to go after fraternities. This seems to be another story
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  Speaker 1: that's more about the evil of fraternities. You know, I guess.
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  Speaker 1: compared to any other parties or any other organization or
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  Speaker 1: entity that's out there, or just a collection of people
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  Speaker 1: that get together to have parties, because Cornell is banning
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  Speaker 1: all fraternity parties for the rest of the academic year. This,
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  Speaker 1: on the heels of this still swirling question mark gang
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  Speaker 1: rape incident from 2024. So fraternity houses at Cornell University
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  Speaker 1: will host no social gatherings until fall of next year, Well,
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  Speaker 1: the school is examining whether its Greek life system should continue.
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  Speaker 1: All parties and social events in interfraternity council houses, that's IFC,
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  Speaker 1: it's initial cap on all that. So if you're in
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  Speaker 1: a fraternity or sorority, you're under the IFC, or I
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  Speaker 1: guess at least fraternities. It's like University of Cincinnati has
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  Speaker 1: a fraternity board as well. So I guess you have
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  Speaker 1: different rules and regulations just because you choose to say
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  Speaker 1: you're a Greek letter organization and have a house where
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  Speaker 1: people can live or congregate. The measure will provide time
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  Speaker 1: for a thorough review of fraternity life at Cornell to
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  Speaker 1: determine whether and how it can safely continue. There will
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  Speaker 1: be zero tolerance for violations of this directive. Any fraternity
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  Speaker 1: holding an in-house party or social event will receive an
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  Speaker 1: immediate emergency suspension. Well, you have a right to engage
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  Speaker 1: in your exercise of free speech and to peaceably assemble.
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  Speaker 1: And I find it really interesting because, again, I think
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  Speaker 1: this is more about this claiming and labeling fraternities as
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  Speaker 1: evil entities than really has anything to do with this.
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  Speaker 1: Has there ever, let me just ask this rhetorically because
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  Speaker 1: I think the answer is probably hell yeah, has there
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  Speaker 1: ever been an act as horrific as this? Let's say
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  Speaker 1: that this young woman, this Jane Doe, is absolutely 100% correct.
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  Speaker 1: She was raped. There was no consent, all that. Has
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  Speaker 1: that ever happened outside of a fraternity? Right, it has.
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  Speaker 1: Has it ever happened at a party that is not
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  Speaker 1: under a Greek organization umbrella? Yeah, sure. So what's with
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  Speaker 1: demonizing all the fraternities and holding them sort of at
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  Speaker 1: least suggesting by saying, you are shut down, you may
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  Speaker 1: not have a party, fraternities, because we're looking at the
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  Speaker 1: actions of a handful of people who happen to be
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  Speaker 1: members of a fraternity. Isn't that painting with a rather
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  Speaker 1: broad brush? Yeah. Why would we allow the demonization of
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  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of innocent other men in these fraternities
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  Speaker 1: because these idiots at Cornell engaged in criminal behavior?
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess it is demonizing the Greek system. And
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  Speaker 1: we've seen this before. And ask yourself why. Haha, going
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  Speaker 1: back to my point over and over again, just one
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  Speaker 1: more institution, traditional. I guess some may perceive them to
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  Speaker 1: be white supremacist kind of organizations, but we had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of black fraternities at the University of Cincinnati. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're still there. Omega Psi Phi is one of them. So, no,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess I would argue, ask the
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  Speaker 1: same question. I suppose the ban on fraternity parties, I
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  Speaker 1: presume they have black fraternities at Cornell. But, This is
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  Speaker 1: suspiciously like dividing people again. This is one more little
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  Speaker 1: historical sort of traditional thing that people have done for
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  Speaker 1: years and years and years, decades, belong to fraternities while
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  Speaker 1: they're at college. And let me tell you, my experience
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  Speaker 1: at a fraternity was outstanding. You know, we weren't all angels.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't a bunch of gang rapists either. We did
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  Speaker 1: have great parties. We met a lot of people. I
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  Speaker 1: established lifelong friendships with from the men and women that
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  Speaker 1: we hung out with as a consequence of Greek life.
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  Speaker 1: It was what made my college experience, and I'm here
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  Speaker 1: to defend them all day long. If you've got a
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  Speaker 1: young person off to college, especially out of town, suggest
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  Speaker 1: they join a fraternity or a sorority if you've got
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  Speaker 1: a girl. Well, they have a built-in social life. They're
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  Speaker 1: going to be accounted. They're going to have friends automatically
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  Speaker 1: right out of the gate. It's a comforting thing to
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  Speaker 1: have friends right out of the gate, and you'll establish
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  Speaker 1: lifelong friendships, and you'll look back on colleges. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I had a great time while also learning, Establishing myself
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  Speaker 1: for my career. Oh, also establish business connections. Right, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the alumni. Tap into them. Knowledge and expertise is there
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  Speaker 1: for you. It's just a terrific, wonderful thing, and it just, frankly,
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  Speaker 1: burns my eye to see them being banned and everyone
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  Speaker 1: painting with a broad brush. I didn't think we were
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  Speaker 1: allowed to do that anymore. I try not to. 526,
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  Speaker 1: Victim sustained non-life-threatening injury. Suspect is a male who was
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  Speaker 1: for him, okay? Princeton City School bus drivers and first
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  Speaker 1: student employer have reached a tentative agreement ending the nine-day strike.
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  Speaker 1: Tentative agreement. Yesterday, ninth day, the Princeton City Schools drivers
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  Speaker 1: have been on strike. So no transportation during that period.
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  Speaker 1: 5,200 students rely on the bus service every single day.
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  Speaker 1: District was offering remote learning options while this strike went on.
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  Speaker 1: Union representatives to the drivers are seeking better pay, route guarantees,
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  Speaker 1: and improved working conditions. I've got to pause. Improve working conditions?
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  Speaker 1: Is that like a better bus? Anyway, a spokesperson said
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  Speaker 1: yesterday that, at least for First Student, the organization, the
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  Speaker 1: tentative agreement, yes, indeed, had been reached with the union
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  Speaker 1: representing Princeton City School bus drivers. Formal vote will be
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  Speaker 1: held today. Representative of Princeton City School, speaking with Fox 19,
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  Speaker 1: said the district would hold comment until after the vote. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good comment. Well, we hope they resolve it. Sharonville, Sharonville.
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  Speaker 1: Police Lieutenant indicted yesterday for allegedly using flock camera systems
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  Speaker 1: to track a person for personal reasons.
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  Speaker 5: Jeez.
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  Speaker 1: Police Lieutenant Walter Cordes, C-O-R-D-E-S, 48 years old, charged with
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  Speaker 1: April of this year to track an unnamed person's whereabouts for, quote,
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  Speaker 1: reasons unrelated to law enforcement, close quote. Hamilton County Prosecutor
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: News released, As prosecutors, we understand the important role technology
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: can play in helping law enforcement investigate crimes, identify suspects,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and bring justice to victims. These investigative tools come with
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: an equally important responsibility to protect the rights of the
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: people we serve. Protecting public safety, protecting individual liberties are
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: not mutually exclusive. The fundamental responsibilities of our justice system
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: when technology is misused and undermines public trust and the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: important work being done by law enforcement officers every day. So,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Connie Pillich. Hamilton County Prosecutor. Back in June, Prosecutor says
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Cordes self-reported during department audit of the system, admitting to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: conducting the searches. Sharonville Police Department said on social media
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that Cordes was placed on administrative leave as the department
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: had its own investigation going. After that investigation, he was
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: charged and now faces up to a year in prison.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Chernobyl police said it would be conducting an additional required
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: training for every police officer in use of law enforcement
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: databases and technology. That temptation must be a strong one.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: So because of guys like that, everyone wants to get
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: rid of flock cameras. And while I don't like the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Orwellian reality we live in, it's almost like you throw
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: your hands up and say, geez, I can't stop it.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Like artificial intelligence. So there's the way we can find
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: some sort of comfortable middle ground where we can use
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: these resources for law enforcement. They are good at catching
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: bad guys without having idiots that have access to the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: system searching for their girlfriends or the girls they went
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: out with in college or their ex-wives or, you know,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I guess that's a two-way street. Women could do it
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: looking for old boyfriends or former spouses as well. But
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: let's just stop that activity. He said as if it
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was a simple thing to accomplish. But when you think
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: about flock cameras along those lines, pause for a moment
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and think about the NSA and the database they have
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and however many hundreds, if not perhaps thousands of people
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: have access to that. I don't know how many people do,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but let's face it. All of these databases, whether it's IRS,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: the FBI files, the NSA, the TSA, everybody's got information
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: about all of us, right? Social Security Administration. All of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: them are run by people. And all of them could
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: use the data they have there for nefarious purposes, like, oh,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: maybe releasing to the general public Donald Trump's tax records,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: for example. Huh. 536, 55. Can we use that argument, then,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to get rid of the IRS? How about that as
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: a theory or a thought? Chimney Care Fireplace is still
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: a gimmick. The Talk Station. 541, 55, KRC, The Talk Station.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Trigger warning. You might want to turn the radio down
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: or off. I do have a stack of stupid in
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: front of me. Man, there's some sick people in this world.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: And here we are with one. A Maryland paramedic, member
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of the Baltimore County Fire Department, Christopher Carroll, recorded himself...
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Recorded himself pleasuring himself. You know what I'm talking about there.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: That's the guy.
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: And urinating into food.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Posting the footage to a porn site.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: The aforementioned conduct recorded.
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: His co-workers, yes, ingested the food.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: What? Yes.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, like I said, former member of the Baltimore County
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Fire Department, sentenced to 25 years in prison for causing
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: ingestion of bodily fluids stemming from at least three separate incidents.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: According to reporting from the Baltimore Banner, 36-year-old Carroll pleaded
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: guilty to all three charges back in August, revealing that, quote,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: he wanted to be some sort of porn star, close quote,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to make money off of his depraved acts. Idiots doing
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: idiot things because they're idiots. He posted at least 64
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: videos on the paid subscription adult kink site just for fans,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: charging $ 7. Majority of the clips recorded inside the fire
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: department's headquarters in Townsend and a fire station in Pikesville, Maryland,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: leading officials to discover his bodily fluids and DNA around
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the offices and inside an ambulance. This guy's all over
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the place. Phrasing. In one video, they say Carol urinated
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: into an ice maker before mixing the repulsive cocktail with
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a scoop, wiping himself with the duel and giving a
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: thumbs up. Unknown to over a dozen workers who later
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: used the ice machine. The caption post, they always say,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: don't drink the yellow snow, but I'm just trying to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: make a slushie. He also pleasured himself into a coffee
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: creamer bottle before returning it to the community fridge. Prosecutors found,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: shall we say, DNA evidence on a female supervisor's keyboard,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: which is where she ate breakfast and lunch daily. Also
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: found fluids into food cooked at the firehouse. Fire department
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: had to perform a hazmat cleaning at the offices and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the station after this was discovered. Ice machine fully replaced.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Several vehicles had to be sanitized. Apparently, Carroll claimed deep
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: regret for the lewd stunts that spanned from September to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: December 2025. I'm truly sorry to everyone who has been involved.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I'm absolutely ashamed that I caused so much hurt. That
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: comment during sentencing where he then got 25 years. faced
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: 23 counts related to his conduct. Yeah, you got to
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: go out in the world and realize that there are
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: people like this out there all over the place. It
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: seemed to me, I recall it, Joe, a Saturday Night
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Live routine from long decades ago, and a guy was
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: sitting down with, I believe it was an angel or
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: something like his guardian angel, and asking questions and getting
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: information that only an angel could possibly know. And one
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: of the questions he said, What is the most disgusting
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever eaten? And the response from the angel is,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you don't want to know that.
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: 545.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: 55KRCD Talk Station. You do.
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: Talk Station.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: 550. 55KRCD Talk Station. Just wait for it. The show
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: will get better at 7.05 when Jack Edelman joins the program.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Not feeling it today. You can't tell. Feel free to assist. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: pound 550 on AT & T phones. We pivot over
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: to the Commonwealth of Kentucky in the stack of stupid,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: specifically Lexington, where two women got charged for taking pictures
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of a woman through a window and then later assaulting
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: her while she was asleep. Why are you doing that?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out. WKYT News reporting a 31-year-old Diana,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: or Dania, don't mispronounce it, Cruz Diaz. 30-year-old and rather
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: 30-year-old Delmas Cruz Diaz, the dynamic duo, jailed after they
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: allegedly began stalking another woman and assaulted her. Court documents
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: say they reportedly show the victim went to law enforcement
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and alleged that the suspects had taken pictures of her
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: through the window while she was getting out of the shower.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Victim further claimed that Dania and Delmas Cruz Diaz entered
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: their home while she was asleep and pepper sprayed her
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: in the face. Documents reportedly state the suspects posted the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: images on social media along with harassing statements and damaged
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the victim's vehicle. Two girls arrested charged with a multitude
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of charges including assault, voyeurism, criminal mischief, and stalking. There
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: is no answer to the question. Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a man named Michael Stiles, 25 years old, was arrested. First,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: for being intoxicated after crashing into a park police cruiser
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: 10.15 p.m. on Monday. He was reportedly arrested and charged
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: with DWI and reckless conduct, later released on a personal
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: recognizance bail. Fine. Fast forward three hours when police say
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: they responded to a separate incident where Stiles was again
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: driving a car under the influence after his release, charged
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: with the second DWI incident. as well as breach of
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: bail with Ms. Demeter, and now he is being held
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: in custody without bail. Don't do that. Well, here's, you know,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: this story is horrific and, you know, added to the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: list of crazy women killing their children. In this particular case,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: her husband also. The name is why I put it
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: into the stack as stupid. We have a Pennsylvania mother
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: accused of stabbing her husband and her toddler to death.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: This happened inside a Great Wolf, Lodge hotel room. Who
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: did this? Metallica Rose Harrison. She's 27. Obviously, mom and dad,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: big Metallica fans. And you can see how she turned out.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: facing two counts of criminal homicide after police discovered her husband,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Charles Harrison, and their three-year-old son dead inside the resort
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Monday of this week. It wasn't supposed to end like this.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to have my happy family. That's what
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I envisioned since I was a child, she is quoted
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: as saying during her ambulance ride to the hospital. Metallica. Hey, Jay,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: welcome to the morning show. Happy Wednesday to you, sir.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Thanks for calling.
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: Hey, Brian.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Good morning.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Morning.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: You kind of brought up one of my pet peeves
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: that I see a lot anymore. I travel a lot,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: drive quite a bit. Every once in a while, you
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: pull into one of these gas stations slash mini-marts, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: you just want to get a cup of coffee. And
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: no problem with a coffee machine. But what's starting to
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: drive me nuts is that there is this community cooler
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: where if you want to put like a shot of
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: milk in your coffee, just reach over there and grab
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: that half gallon and just take the lid off of
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: it and just go ahead and help yourself because it
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: is just a public community cooler now. And I can't
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: believe that the health departments haven't shut this bad idea
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: down that somebody couldn't put a needle or fentanyl or
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: spit in it, or maybe the homeless guy came in
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: and he decided to have a couple tugs on a
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: big old jug of milk.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: There and put it back.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: There's absolutely zero control over that versus the individual creamer.
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: That they used to have at these places.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: And I can't, you know, it's going to have to,
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: I guess, take somebody, a massive poisoning or fentanyl.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Tylenol? A Tylenol issue?
• 31:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Well, let me just tell you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: Wow, I can't believe we didn't think about that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: It goes beyond that real quick here, an anecdote from
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: my childhood. A guy used to swim with his brother,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: was poisoned by using the ketchup bottle that was on
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: the table at a steakhouse. Someone put LSD in it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: So right there, it sits. For anybody who sits there
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: at the table to enjoy, and God knows you can
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: take the lid off of any one of those condiment
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: bottles that are sitting there, and it could be a problem,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: especially going back to that condiment. Creepy guy, the paramedic.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we live in a crazy world,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and that's something that you and I need to take
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: into account. Thanks for reminding me next time I go
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: for the ketchup at the table when I'm over at, like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Silver Spring House or something. 556-55KRC, the talk station. Plenty
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to talk about at the 6 o'clock hour. That's 606-55KRC,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: the talk station, at the Wednesday hump day. Jack Atherton Day,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: coming up at 7 to 5, one hour from now,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: we're going to hear from Jack Atherton. Trump's tragic flaw,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: topic of conversation for Jack today, easily mixing history with
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: modern things going on. It's amazing what he's able to do.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And I think we're all blessed to have Jack on
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: the program here, and I appreciate him taking time out
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: of his busy week to join the morning show every week.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Donovan Neal joins the morning show every week at 7.30
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: on a Wednesday. He's the state director for Americans for Prosperity.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: He's got a great topic list to go over with
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Donovan Neal. The work that they are accomplishing here in
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio in terms of door knocking is
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: quite remarkable. 800,000 doors knocked so far. In less than
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: three weeks to go, he's going to try to enlist
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: your help, and it's not too late to do that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Talk about Hispanic outreach as well as equipping Ohioans to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: fight for freedom. Hundreds of Ohioans did join the Fight
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Socialism webinar, so I'm glad to hear about that, and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I hope a lot of folks in my listening audience
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: were part of that group. What else is coming up
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: after Donovan O'Neill? Sherry Poland. Good morning, Sherry. Hamilton County
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Board of Elections. Sherry Poland, every year in advance of
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the election, she comes on and says what? Right, we
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: need poll workers. She'll be doing that today at 745.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: If you can work the polls, please do. Jonathan Pearson,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: he is running for Hamilton County Commissioner. Kind of a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: low profile. I wish I saw more Pearson signs and
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: know that there's someone other than a Democrat running, but
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: He is running under the GOP banner. Jonathan will join
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the program at 8.05, and maybe he'll get the tail
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: end of the show after Judge Napolitano at 8.30, who
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: has a column on the death penalty. Josh Gerth, head
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of the Hamilton County Republican Party, going to be on
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: to talk about idiots destroying signs in Sims Township. Obviously,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Republican signs are being destroyed. I don't know why I
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: say obviously, but if Josh Gerth's on talking about it,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: he's certainly not going to come on the program and
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: talk about Republicans destroying Democrat signs, because we don't do
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: that stuff, do we? Although I will remember when I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was in high school, I think age 15 or 16,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: some of my friends would drive around and drive through
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: signs for local township candidates that they didn't like who
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: were Democrats. But that's something a kid does. And I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on in Sims Township, but certainly
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: in this day and age, I can see adults running
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: around tearing out opposition signs, and that's just childish. He's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: also going to be talking about a new ad campaign
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: against Carrie Bloom, a municipal court judge. Carrie Bloom is
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: the one setting the policy where we don't punish children
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: in Hamilton County. even though they need it. Got kids
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: in there with records a mile long, or at least
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: arrest records a mile long. Apparently, the revolving door of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: justice for the juveniles in the city of Cincinnati is
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: well known, making it almost a pointless gesture for police
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: to have any involvement with Cincinnati youth. So we'll hear
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: about that from Josh Gertz. Tomorrow in the morning, show
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy is going to join the program, and he
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: can maybe comment about this, which is artificial intelligence. His
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: point in his platform is, you know, you can't say
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: no to AI, but you can fix any concerns that
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: you have going into it. Not all. Most of the concerns,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: and apparently the Cincinnati Regional Chamber of Commerce, as well
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: as the Center for Research and Data, which is part
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of the Cincinnati Regional Chamber, did an analysis on artificial
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: intelligence centers. Data centers, a Cincinnati regional perspective. So, Issues
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: are outlined, problems. They also broke it down into what
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: the benefits are. So everything's taken into account. In an
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: executive summary, they qualify all this or provide the points
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that they want to make because data center's good, and
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: there are already a whole bunch of them in and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: around downtown Cincinnati. Estimated 19 data centers operating or planned
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: in the Cincinnati metropolitan area. 565 megawatts worth total. And
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Ohio is the state, or actually the world's largest data
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: center market, and it's growing. So data centers come into
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Ohio unless the NIMBYs fight them off. And why would
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: the NIMBYs fight them off? And this is something the
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce broke down. All right, you ready? Policy
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: principles for data center growth, which sounds like Ramaswamy's campaign
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: pledge with regard to AI. Capitalize on data center growth
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: as a strategic opportunity to expand our region's economy and
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: business ecosystem. Good, business good, money coming in good, job
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: creation good. Number two, capture the fiscal benefits data centers
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: bring to local communities. In other words, we need the
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: tax dollars, and tax dollars are good. And here we
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: come to the problems that people are screaming about in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: these meetings, although none of them are insurmountable in terms
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: of a challenge. Power, right? Water, right? Noise, right? Hold
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: operators accountable for securing their energy needs. Bring your power
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: with you and you are welcome at the table. Ensure
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: data center operators don't pass on costs to other rate
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: payers for their operations. Your bill won't go up. We're
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: going to make sure that they can't do that. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to the extent that they do try to do that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: or somehow magically your bill goes up because they're there,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: even having brought their power, they're going to be held
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: accountable for it. So you got that problem dealt with.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Resolve water needs early in project planning to ensure the
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: region maintains water as competitive asset.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Closed-loop system, problem solved on that one we know going in.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Just listen, don't provide me with any data center plan
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that has anything but a closed-loop cooling system or something
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: that does not rely on tens of thousands of gallons
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of water because, of course, we need those to water
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: the golf courses. And there are a lot of them
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: in the greater Cincinnati area, golf courses. I read that figure,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: 300,000 gallons of water daily or something. Nobody seems to
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: care about that. I'm waiting for protests to erupt at
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: golf courses. Encourage responsible site selection and land use decisions. Yeah,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: don't build a massive data center next to an existing subdivision.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: That'll keep the number of opposition voices down. Implement performance-based
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: incentives that ensure accountability and project delivery. Whatever on that one.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: But see, the points are all captured here. You can
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: have a data center. and avoid the problems that people
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: generally complain about. But are they really complaining about data centers'
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: just existence, or is it what AI does? And this
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: is where I think most of the problem lies. You're
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: out protesting, I don't want a data center around here
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: because it's going to run artificial intelligence, and AI is
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: going to put me out of a job. Well, that's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the part that you and I can't shut off. And
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: trust me, if I could wish it away... I've lived
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: in a world without this kind of intelligence, and it
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: has not been a problem. I had a conversation the
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: other day. I miss the days of letter writing. You know,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the whole world changed when we all got email and text.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You know, one day, you'd sit down, meet with somebody else. else,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: like when I was practicing law, and you both go
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: to your respective neutral corners at your firms and you
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: would write letters back and forth involving the meeting you
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: just had or the phone call you just had. You
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: know how it works. You write a letter, secretary types
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it all up, it comes back to you, you finally
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: finish it off. Maybe a day or two later it
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: goes out. It takes a couple of days to get
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to the other guy. The other guy then has, well,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: several days to read it and provide a response. You
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: don't expect anything right away. It was great. The work
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: still had to be done, but the world moved a
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: little bit slower because of that. Now, as soon as
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: email popped in, it was like immediately, the partners wanted
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: an immediate response. I sent you that email this morning.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: How come you haven't responded to me? You know, you
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: all remember that, don't you? Text, the same thing. And
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: we've gotten so bad, we don't even engage in conversations anymore.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: It's some sort of, you know, mysterious cryptic language text
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: you send over in abbreviated form, lacking punctuation and proper spelling,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: but we only bother picking up a phone and making
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a phone call. Artificial intelligence is something like that in
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the sense that, and I had a conversation with my
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: wife about this the other day, her employer, as with
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: so many, are insisting that the employees use artificial intelligence.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Don't do it the old way. plug it into AI
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: or whatever version they've got over there, her business, and
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it does streamline many processes. So fewer hours dedicated or
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: committed to doing whatever thing, but also that increases the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: burden on the remaining workers to get the job done
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and turned around right away. You've got AI. I should
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: have the answer to this question already. So more pressure
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: on individuals to turn things around immediately. So there's a
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: downside to it, but it's not going away. But what
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: happens when AI kicks in? And in spite of the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: numbers of jobs that this creates, and the report does
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: provide that, they create a lot of works. Data centers
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: employ workers through construction, permanent operations, ongoing maintenance. Some employees
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: remain long after the construction is done, but the construction
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: workforce size for a standard hyperscale facility of 250 megawatts,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: according to the report from the chamber, is comparable to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: a large multi-billion dollar investment like the Brent Spence Bridge Project.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: So a lot of union jobs out there building these
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: complex data centers. Multiple job postings in the greater Cincinnati
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: area as a consequence of data center-related skills. Computer engineers,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: construction managers, project management. Big job opportunities exist. Every job
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: directly added to the Cincinnati region in the computing infrastructure providers.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Data processing, web housing, related service industry creates 1.89 other
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: jobs through directory-indirectory-induced effects. So they create jobs, but any
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: business does, right? I mean, the Cincinnati Bengals will scream
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: all day long about how many jobs and how much
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: business is supported by their mere existence and playing a
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: handful of games throughout the year. Of course, every business,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: by way of ripple effect, is going to create something
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: out of it. Data center earnings, every dollar data center
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: earns creates 0.91 cents, 0.91 in other earnings. So 91 cents.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Earnings generation. But what about the job losses that AI causes?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: That's the next story. It's happening locally, and you can
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: see the tidal wave of, well, size reductions, right-sizing coming
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: your direction. Very fast. Fasten Pro Roof and get in
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: touch with Fasten Pro Roof. 622-55-CARE-CD-DOG-STATION. Wednesday.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Since the Chamber of Commerce and City of Cincinnati said,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: you know, there are bad things about data centers, but
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: overall they bring jobs, revenue, a lot of money in
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: form of taxes, et cetera, et cetera, and you can
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: manage the challenges up front before the center's bill. Require
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: them to bring their own power, keep the noise minimum,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: select a site that's not sitting on top of a neighborhood.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: All the stuff that you worry about, you hear articulated,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the water issues, everything taken care of up front. The
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: problem remains is, look, this as an illustration of our
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: collective futures and current situations right now, Kroger cutting 3000 jobs.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Fox business reporting on this one, eliminating approximately 3000 corporate
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: positions over the next several years, expanding the use of
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence for the purpose of cutting costs and bringing
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: about lower prices for you. So While the jobs disappear,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you at least are going to get manageable grocery prices.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Plan cuts affect approximately 37% of Kroger's 8,200 corporate employees.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: This is a report from Reuters the other day. Restructuring
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: because Kroger is facing pressure to improve sales, keep grocery
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: prices competitive, and streamline operations. There's that pesky thing called competition.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: And how do we do that? Increase the use of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence for the purpose of eliminating duplicative work. Eliminating
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: work that doesn't need to be done anymore manually. Changing
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: technology reductions intended to free up resources, yes, to lower
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: grocery prices and invest in store employees. This announcement apparently
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: made in September. The company said it was expanding its
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: use of proprietary and third-party AI models to streamline workforce,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: improve decision-making, help employees manage daily tasks. Pivoting over to
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: my wife's illustration, that's exactly what her employer requires the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: employees to do. If you can use AI and if
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: it does save you time, then damn it, you use it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: And I mentioned secretary earlier. That's an old school, you
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: think I'm a madman era kind of guy.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I understand administrative assistant, but when I think about 3,000
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: corporate positions... probably come with some form of administrative assistant,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: and there's an area that you might think is subject
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: to AI elimination as well. If you can dictate and
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: have real-time text going into your computer, your device, your smartphone,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: do you have to transcribe anything? At least you can
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: minimize the need for administrative assistants. Carger said it was
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: making AI training and tools available to more than 400,000
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: employees across its operations. Planning reductions also come amid slowing
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: sales growth at the grocery chain, I guess because of
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: inflationary realities. So going back to the figure that the
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce cited, every job added to the Cincinnati
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: region in quote-unquote computing infrastructure, AI, etc., creates 1.89 other
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: jobs through direct, indirect, or induced effects. That's the words
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: from the report. Did they take into account the number
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: of jobs that will be eliminated through the use of
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence? Because the report doesn't seem to address that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: It's a bit of an elephant in the room. 625, 55KRC,
• 46:33
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• 46:37
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• 46:59
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• 47:02
  Speaker 1: morning once we get to the top of the hour. Anyhow,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I've got local stories in front of me here. We've
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: got a guy sentenced to nearly 36 years in prison
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: for armed robberies, and multiples of them happened in 2024.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: James Lockridge, 43 years old, convicted of seven federal robbery
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: and firearm charges back in June. Yesterday, U.S. District Attorney
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Dominic Grace, he sentenced him to 431 months in prison.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: saying Lockridge endangered live causes panic and terror in employees
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: and customers during three separate robberies. Evidence was at trial
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: that his own criminal history showed that he is a
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: violent offender who has no respect for the law. He
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: also thanked the investigators and the prosecutors for their excellent work,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: stopping Lockridge before he successfully shot or seriously injured somebody else. Apparently,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: the robberies occurred February 5th. February 10th and February 21st,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: back in 24, he held up three Cincinnati Marathon gas
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: stations wearing a mask and holding and brandishing a silver,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: all-important color of the gun, 9mm firearm. Southern District Attorney's
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Office said Lockridge fired the gun and pointed it at
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: clerks in each of the robberies. He also pointed his
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: gun at customers who were in his way. District Attorney's
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Office said Lockridge was arrested 11 minutes after the third robbery.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: And he has a long history of criminal charges. Thank
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: you to Fox 19 reporting, breaking and entering, burglary, theft,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: criminal trespass, threatening others with firearms and drug possession. Okay,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: we got another flock case here out of Sharonville. So
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: we're going to throw out the baby with the bathwater
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: because jerks like this guy use the flock cameras to
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: stalk people, basically, as I'm boiling down the total story. Again,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Fox 19 reporting. Sharonville police lieutenant indicted yesterday. for allegedly
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: using the flock camera system to track a person for
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: personal reasons. Police Lieutenant Walter Cordes, 48, charged with unauthorized
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: use of computer cable or telecommunications property for using the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: flock system 29 times between December of 24 and April
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: of this year to track an unnamed person's whereabouts. In
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: the words of the charge, for reasons unrelated to law enforcement.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Sharonville Police. Department said on social media that Cordes was
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: placed on administrative leave as the department completes its own investigation.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: So following an investigation, Cordes was charged and now faces
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: up to one year in prison. Don't do that. Are
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: you going to vote for the Cincinnati Public School levy?
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Another reason to get out and vote, they held their
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: first of two town hall meetings last night to let
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the community know what's going to happen if the levy
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: fails in November. Let you draw your own conclusions on
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: what Superintendent Sean Murphy and Treasurer Mike Gustin had to say.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: They claim they're, well, running out of things to cut.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They can't cut anymore. And they say they're going to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: have negative cash balances by 2029. So they're out there
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: to explain the reason behind the budget deficit and why
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: they need this levy passed. He said, obviously, Augustine did,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: obviously school districts can't go negative. You know, if they
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: go negative, the state comes in and takes over. So
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: we have some important work to do. And I thought
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: about that, and I don't know what's involved with the
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: state taking over other than they become, well, they're in
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: charge of the school district and, of course, budgeting and finance.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: If the state comes in and takes over, Will they
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: be able to find areas to cut that haven't been
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: cut yet? I guess I just wonder how that kind
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: of works. If you have the answer, please let me know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: but that's the threat that's being levied here. A couple
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of years ago, the percentage of dollars that we received
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: from the state was 40%, and so with fewer state
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: dollars coming in, they say it's down to about 25%
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: of the funding that the school board receives. So loss
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: of dollars from the state. District administration said if the
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: school levy fails, millions of dollars in cuts will follow
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: almost immediately. And unlike the past years, the administrators say
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: there are no more cuts to be made to items
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: like supplies. Programs and personnel will be considered for cuts
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: every year going forward. According to Augustine, if the levy
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't pass this time, you're looking at $ 20 to $ 25
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: million worth of cuts every year. But then the next
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: year after that, you're looking at the same level of
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: cuts every And the same level of cuts. He repeated it.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I guess you're looking at the same level of cuts
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: multiple years in a row. Are you going to vote
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: for the school levy? Are you getting a good return
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: on your investment? That's a question I would ask myself.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: I'm not eligible to vote for that particular levy. 635
• 51:46
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• 51:52
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• 51:56
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• 51:58
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• 52:00
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• 52:03
  Speaker 1: that out. And I encourage you to call, too, like
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Fred did. Fred, thanks for calling this morning. It's terrific
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to hear a human voice.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: Hey, Brian.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: You were talking about the job losses, and there's an
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: economic principle called the creative destruction of the market. And
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: when technology advances, there's jobs that are destroyed immediately. And
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: it frees up that labor to go into other areas.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: But as an economy as a whole, we're getting more productive.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: A couple of examples. When farm machinery came in, a
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: lot of the farm labor, I mean, we don't use
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: as many people to produce the amount of food that
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: we did back.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: In the day.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: And it frees up that labor to go into factories.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: And there's another one that you talk about all the time.
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: And colleges are getting so expensive that people aren't going in.
• 52:55
  Speaker 5: They need the labor and the trade, so the pay
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: for the trade is going up, and the market's impersonal,
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: so it's a gradual change. And there's not as many
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: people going to college, and they're going. So should we
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: worry about it? Well, the thing we need to worry
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: about is the socialists trying to make it a big
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: deal and stop all the productive– use of this technology
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: to move our economy forward.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I understand, and I don't disagree with any word
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: you said, Fred. We've been through this kind of quote-unquote
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: revolution a multitude of times. Airplanes, a big changer when
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: it comes to travel. Farm equipment, you mentioned. The simple
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: creation of the computer itself has transformed business and industry.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: We've all been able to manage to get through all
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: these different changes and so many more over time. But AI,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: it just seems to me, strikes me as just a
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: little bit different because it's so at least theoretically capable
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: of doing so many things that so many people do. Like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: for example, can you imagine being an accountant and worrying
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: about your future? The idea of tax preparers, if you
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: can chuck it into an AI and it's going to
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: generate something that qualifies and passes muster with the IRS
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't cost you anything, that means that there
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: aren't going to be CPAs out there. Huge, huge chunks
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: of the economy are arguably going to be wiped out,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and I just kind of wonder what those warm bodies
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: right now during this slow transition time are going to do. Because, look,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Kroger just got rid of 3,000 or is in the
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: process of getting rid of 3,000 corporate positions. What are
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: those maybe mid-level managers, where are they going to turn
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and what are they going to do if AI eliminated
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: their job? Would that same concept not be happening at
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the competitors' businesses?
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: Well, the hard thing about having a free market economy
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: is that which you're exactly just talking about. People don't
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: understand how that's going to work. It's hard to explain
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: how it's going to work, and.
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: It might take time.
• 54:54
  Speaker 5: But the other side of the coin is socialism. We're
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: going to get government to make jobs for them. I mean,
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: we could go back and say, okay, we're going to
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: take those people, and we're going to get rid of backhoes,
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: and we're going to let them use shovels.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I was just going to use that because that was
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: a real illustration, Fred.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: We get less productive, and we don't know what the
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: next jump will be. It's hard to imagine that a
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: tax preparer could end up, how long would it take
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: for him to have.
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: A skill to be a welder?
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: You kind of got to start young. You maybe don't
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: have that skill, but you don't know what's around the corner.
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: We didn't know what AI was around. We kind of did,
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: but not really. True. 20 years ago, but it just
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: kind of works out. Now, you don't have to understand
• 55:54
  Speaker 5: how the market works for it to work, but if
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: you don't have any idea how that it works, you're
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: going to screw it up by voting in people that
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: want to destroy the market.
• 56:06
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: And here's a question for you, Fred, because this seems
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: to have fallen into a Republican-Democrat issue like every damn
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: thing on the planet. Bernie Sanders running around screaming how
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: we need to stop AI in its tracks completely. Now,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that is going to leave America behind in this race
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: that is going to continue. That is a dumb way
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: to look at it. You're not stopping AI. If you
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: stop it here, you're just going to let the Chinese
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: do it. So we're still going to rely then on
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Chinese AI because of the business productivity matters that it
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: can manage and obviously improve efficiencies. So Bernie Sanders' idea
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: is a pointless, if you're right on that, And if
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: you think you're going to stop AI by voting for Democrats,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: you're going to get exactly what Fred's talking about, which
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: is basically in these days, communism or socialism at minimum.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: It's an excellent point, Fred. I can't argue with it.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: But I guess further to the point, I'd like to know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: because the number crunchers with the Chamber of Commerce talking
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: about the great things that can bring to the region
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: with artificial intelligence... They talked about the number of jobs
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: generated as a consequence of it, but they didn't talk
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: about it. I don't think it's possible to calculate the
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: number of job losses that will come about as a
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: consequence of AI. 546, feel free to call. I've got
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a couple of callers online who want to address this topic,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: and we're going to get to those folks here in
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: just a second. Rick and Mark, please hold on. I
• 57:27
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• 57:35
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• 57:37
  Speaker 1: because you'll be next. Inside skinny for one of my
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: listener friends on Facebook who said that, well, insofar as
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Kroger is concerned, apparently everybody there was told Monday about
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: the 3,000 jobs. But he also mentioned that they are
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: opening what he called a capability center in India where
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Target and Walmart already have a footprint. And I asked
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: what a capability center was. He said it's a, well,
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: fancy word for offshoring. Apparently a couple of people are
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: going to be named to oversee the work that is
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: going to be moved to India. He said it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to hear after his coming up on three decades of
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: service to his employer at Kroger. Let's see what Mark
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  Speaker 1: has to say about Kroger. Mark, thanks for calling this morning. Welcome.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I might better have. She's a buyer for Kroger,
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: and the scuttlebutt's been going around for a little bit
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: before this announcement Monday, and it's not really a not
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: really doing much for their morale. I mean, she's seen
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: this coming a while ago. And she's already looking. She's
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: already been out there interviewing with a couple other companies. So,
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: you know, I mean, how does a person go to
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: work every day knowing, okay, they're talking 3,000 jobs over
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: the next three years. So how does a person go
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: to work every day thinking, okay, I'm going to go
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: in and do a good job, move up in this company,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: but I don't know if I'm going to have a job.
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: I just, I don't agree with the way Kroger went
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  Speaker 4: about this. I, And then, you know, this outsourcing to
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: India thing.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's a completely different thing because we've been
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: talking about outsourcing to foreign countries for years and years
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: and years. And of course, this is how we found
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: out during COVID that doing that and having everything made
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: in another country is a real problem for the United States'
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: own stability and best interest. But with her, maybe this
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: is the reason Kroger is spreading this out over three years.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: You know, they could drop the hair or, you know, just,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: just eliminate everybody all at once. But if you think
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: your job is subject to elimination because of AI and
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you see that coming, then maybe the, your opportunity to
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: find another place of employment over this three year period
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: is exactly what they want you to do. Go out
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: and find yourself another job because you may very well
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: find yourselves in the crosshairs of being laid off because
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: we've adopted AI.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: It's a thought.
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  Speaker 3: It, Is that because they don't want to pay a
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: severance pay?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Well, it could be that. Of course, that's a little
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: fringe benefit they get if you quit. You don't have
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: to worry about that. So maybe have a job waiting
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: in the wings, Mark, and then get the severance pay
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: when they do drop the hammer on you and take
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: the severance money, put it in the bank, and then
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: go work at your new job. Problem is, you don't
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: know when the hammer's going to drop or the hammer's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: going to fall. Yeah, and that's what she's concerned about.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I hear you, man.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I hear you. And there's so many families out there
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: having the exact same conversation that you're having with your wife.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Prayers for her and you, and I hope you get
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: through it without any problems, Mark. God bless you, man. Rick,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: welcome to the morning show, and happy Wednesday.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: You know, every time I hear about these data centers,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I want to take my wooden shoes and throw them
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: into an automatic loom somewhere. And I want my old
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: wooden phone back with a crank on the side.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: And I want a crank on the front of my car, too.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's like the buggy whip manufacturers from Ruthless People
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: or whatever that story was. You know, one time there
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: was a whole bunch of buggy whip manufacturers, and as
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the automobile was introduced, fewer and fewer of them existed,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: and you had the one remaining buggy whip manufacturer that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: manufactured the best out there. Nobody could beat it. That's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: why they stayed around longer than anybody else. And next
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: thing you know, they're out of business too because, well,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: nobody's using horses for transportation anymore. Absolutely, Rick. There's no
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: question this is a period of transition. The question is,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: is it any different than that? You know, you had
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a crank on your car, and I'm sure there was
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: a crank manufacturer. Then you have starter manufacturers and the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: battery technology and the wiring and the cabling that went
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: into cars that didn't exist anymore. So cars got more complex,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: more opportunities for employment. This is the exact opposite of that.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: What you got here is something that does the work
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: for a whole lot of people, and that work will
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: no longer require a human being to really perform it,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: or at least a finite number of people compared to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: the old days. What does that presumably pre-educated population, like
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: mid-level management at Kroger, where do they go? Do they
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: go into the trades? Certainly a possibility, but You know,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: this is just something we need to deal with and
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: we're going to deal with it because, again, it's not
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: going away, but it's just a strange moment in time.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: And may you live in interesting times is not something
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: you want to hear because we're living in interesting times.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: So thanks, Rick. I hear you, man. I can't deny it.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Just a weird transition time and how this is all
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: going to play out remains a serious mystery. And I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: think that's what's so troubling for folks. But don't go protesting.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a data facility because you don't like what AI is
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: doing or what it might bring about. Because that's not
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: the point. The point of the protest is you are
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: backing what the CCP wants. They want Bernie Sanders' idea
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: to be fully implemented here in the U.S. Reject AI
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and let them do it. That is a seriously dangerous outcome.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe Jack Atherton will say something about that. I don't
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: know his topic today after the top of the hour news.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Trump's tragic flaw. plus Donovan Neal from Americans for Prosperity,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and Sherry Poland from the Hamilton County Board of Elections,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: all coming up in the next hour. I sure hope
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: you can stick around.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 9: The future of America.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: If you want socialism, let's see.
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  Speaker 4: 7-0-6.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: The 55KRC Talk Station, it being Wednesday, I hope you
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: look forward to this moment in time as much as
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I do every Wednesday. It is that time for The
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Big Picture with Jack Atherton. Welcome back, Jack, my friend.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing what you do on
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show at this time.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you so much, pal. May I mention, as I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 11: know you did yesterday with Dr. Jay Rissover, that an
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 11: education group we all support, the great Empower You America,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 11: is going to be having me speak tomorrow night.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Isn't that great?
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 11: The meeting is free. It's at Scarlet Oaks, 7 p.m.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 11: And if you come, folks, please say hello.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. What are you going to be talking about? Remind
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: my listeners, it's empoweryouamerica.org. If you can't show up in
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: person to Scarlet Oaks campus for the live seminar, you
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: can log in from home. Just register ahead of time.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Remind my listeners of your topic tomorrow to Jack Atherton.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: The issues the founders faced 250 years ago are exactly
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 11: the same issues that we're facing in November and right now,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 11: if you vote early, as I hope you do.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Well, and headline this morning, I pretty much started out
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the show that the Democrats are far ahead of Republicans
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: in voting here in the state of Ohio. And the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: figures are a lot stronger for Democrats than they were
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: in 2024 and 2022. So FYI, get out and vote.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: Vote early. Make sure you get it done because Election Day,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen between now and then.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Jack Atherton, you're right. Go ahead, my friend.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 11: In the run-up to these midterms, we've talked about how
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 11: the Democrat Party including once moderate leaders, more or less,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 11: like Chuck Schumer, have sold out to socialists and radical
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 11: Islamists in their thirst for power. Socialism is the current
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 11: term for top-down authoritarian government, what used to be called
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 11: monarchy or dictatorship. Contrast that with the unique genius of America,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 11: bottom-up government, God-given individual rights secured by limited government. That's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 11: what the Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are all about.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 11: What the United States must still be about if we're
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 11: to remain Americans. But today, let's focus on the elephant
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: in the room. The elephant who will dominate every room
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: until he stomps off the scene. Donald John Trump. My
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 11: wife and I began volunteering for Trump in 2015. We've contributed,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 11: attended rallies, and one day when our First grandchild finally arrives.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 11: I hope he or she will be named Donald, if
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 11: not the Donald or just sir. Yet we have no illusions, Brian.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: We know that millions of Americans despise Donald Trump. Those
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 11: are the folks I want to address this morning, hoping
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 11: not to change their minds, but to place Trump in
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 11: context so that they will hold their nose and vote
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: Republican anyway. Let's compare Trump with the Democrat alternative and
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 11: then to earlier figures in both history and literature, the
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 11: Shakespearean heroes wrestling with what's been called their tragic flaws. First,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: the brief comparison with Democrats. What had been the party
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 11: of slavery moved toward big government socialism during the Great Depression.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 11: Franklin Roosevelt in 1932 believed the only way to put
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 11: Americans back to work was to have them work for
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 11: a vastly expanded federal government. How well that worked is
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 11: still debated. The Depression lasted until at least 1939 and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 11: ended only with the general mobilization for World War II.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 11: After the war, General Dwight Eisenhower, a Republican, won two landslides,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 11: and then John F. Kennedy won as a Democrat because,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 11: in many ways, he was more conservative than Richard Nixon.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 11: Kennedy vowed to contain communism. He also slashed taxes across
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 11: the board to stimulate not the redistribution of wealth, but growth,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 11: setting an example for Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump. The
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 11: big change in Democrat politics came when Lyndon Johnson launched
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 11: his war on poverty that condemned generation after generation of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 11: America's poor to dependence on big government welfare. Thanks to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 11: Donald Trump's growth policy, poverty is now at the lowest
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 11: recorded level ever. Look it up. But moving on to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 11: illegal immigration, here we cannot blame Democrats alone. Establishment Republicans,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 11: breaking with Eisenhower and Reagan, began calling for open borders
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 11: in a bid for cheap, menial labor. The Bible of
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 11: establishment Republicans, the Wall Street Journal, as I've mentioned several
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 11: times before, demanded a five-word constitutional amendment. Quote, there shall
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 11: be open borders. It gets worse. A Democrat-Republican coalition demanded
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 11: so-called free trade, which was anything but free. Tax breaks
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 11: and one-way tariffs on America were rewarded companies that move
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 11: manufacturing jobs to red China and other nations paying starvation wages.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 11: And you've just been talking about Kroger moving jobs to India.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 11: Enter Donald Trump, not an establishment Republican, a mega populist.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 11: Years before he ran for president, Trump warned that illegal
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 11: immigration and the offshoring of American jobs and technology would
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 11: drive down U.S. wages, drive up crime, and destroy the
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 11: driving force of America. Assimilation. E pluribus unum. From many, one.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 11: the many arriving here legally from every nation in the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 11: world and then becoming one people by embracing the American
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 11: idea of individual rights and responsibilities. To an astonishing extent,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 11: Trump has succeeded. He has completely sealed the border to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 11: illegal aliens, including drug dealers, terrorists, and human traffickers. By contrast,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 11: Joe Biden and his border czar, Kamala Harris, let in
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 11: untold millions. Trump's also brought manufacturing jobs and higher wages
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 11: back to America in numbers we had not seen in
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 11: 60 years. He's cut crime to the lowest numbers in
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 11: more than a century. Trump has made America energy independent.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 11: His Abraham Accords have created undreamt-of partnerships between Sunni Muslims
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 11: and Israel. NATO allies are contributing more than ever to
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 11: their own defense. Trump has lowered drug prices and allowed
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 11: patients a right to try new therapies. I could go
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 11: on and on. But let's get to Donald Trump's flaws,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 11: because that's what everybody seems to be focusing on, to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 11: the exclusion of everything else. Like Shakespeare's Roman general, a
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 11: real person, Coriolanus, Trump is insufferably arrogant.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 9: He acts at.
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  Speaker 11: Times, and he talks all the time. Not like the
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 11: president of a republic, but like an emperor, or even
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 11: a Greek god, hurling thunderbolts. That's why his tariff policy
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 11: needlessly roiled markets for months on end. Trump's basic aim
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 11: was reciprocity. If Europe tariffs our cars, we'll tariff theirs.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 11: If Canada won't let our farmers sell dairy products there,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 11: we won't let Canada sell alcohol here. Trade reciprocity is defensible.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 11: But instead of relying on established laws that could have
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 11: accomplished that, Trump got a kick out of declaring emergency
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 11: tariffs and then withdrawing them at will until the Supreme Court,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 11: including some conservative justices, said, try again. And this time,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 11: do it right. To his credit, Trump does accept court rulings.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 11: So now he's relying on established law.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Thank God. Mostly.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 11: How about Shakespeare's Macbeth? His tragic law, his flaw was ambition.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 11: Trump likes to pretend he's king of the world, like
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 11: threatening to make Canada our 51st state. All that did
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 11: was turn Canadians against an American ally, conservative Pierre Polivare,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 11: and give us the anti-American socialist, Mark Carney, who's doing
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 11: all kinds of mischief. I could cite countless other examples, Brian,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 11: but let's move to Iran. because it could cost us
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 11: these midterms. In Iran, Trump has been Hamlet, the prince
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 11: paralyzed by indecision. Not at first. Trump courageously degraded Iran's
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 11: nuclear capability in June of 2025, and again last February,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 11: after Iran boasted that it still had enough enriched uranium
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 11: to make 11 nuclear bombs, not to mention tens of
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 11: thousands of ballistic missiles and drones. I applaud Trump and
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 11: Israel for finally standing up to the world's biggest state
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 11: sponsor of terror. But just as literary critics have debated
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 11: for centuries about why Hamlet delayed avenging his father's murder,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 11: future historians will debate why, after wiping out most of
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 11: Iran's military and rescuing our downed airmen in early April,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 11: the highlight of this war, Trump suddenly dithered. and asked,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 11: to win or not to win? That is the question.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 11: He decided to negotiate with terrorists, even though there was
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 11: no question that Iran would break any peace agreement that
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 11: might be negotiated, that the mullahs and the Revolutionary Guard
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 11: would instead string Trump along. While gas prices reached an
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 11: average $ 4. 50 a gallon, pushing up inflation and interest rates,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 11: Iran has said, for all to hear that it wants
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 11: Republicans to lose the midterms so Trump can be impeached
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 11: again by a Democrat House, and perhaps this time convicted
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 11: by a Democrat Senate. The Shakespearean tragedy is that victory
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 11: in Iran never required boots on the ground. We just
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 11: had to consistently, consistently strangle Iran economically, the way Scott
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 11: Besant finally was allowed to start doing in September. The
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 11: terror regime will fall, but perhaps too late to keep
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 11: our own country from descending into chaos and paralysis. Unless,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 11: and this is my whole point, unless enough Trump haters
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 11: hold their nose and vote to keep Democrats from taking
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 11: America the way of no longer Great Britain and the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 11: rest of Europe. We are not reelecting Trump. He is
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 11: not on the ballot. But the radical Islamist Abdul El-Sayed is.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 11: The prophet of a multi-gendered God, James Tallarico, is. The
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 11: go-along-to-get-along professional Democrat, Sherrod Brown, is. Along with hundreds of
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 11: other leftists who will turn all of America into California, Minnesota,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 11: and New York City. Socialist paradise hellholes. We are at war, friends,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 11: not just in Iran. Here in America, a war Democrat
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 11: socialists have declared on the 250-year-old American idea, limited government.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 11: And as Shakespeare warned in Julius Caesar, war gives the
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 11: right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 11: upon the vanquished. Friends and countrymen, resist being vanquished. Save
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 11: America by voting Republican. What do you say, my anything
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 11: but tragic friend?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Wonderful as always, Jack. And I'm just sitting here writing
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: down all kinds of comments and response and multitude of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: points you made. But, you know, the weirdest thing about
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: it is I step back from people who just for
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: whatever reason are against America or hate Trump and therefore
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: would vote against their best interest. Jack Atherton, has there
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: ever been a more successful... government experiment in the history
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: of mankind compared to the United States of America? I
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: think we can all answer resoundingly no. The problem is,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: much in the way that the left treats Donald Trump,
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: they don't focus on all of the great things that
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: you just ran down. And that list of great things
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: he's accomplished was not exhaustive. You could have gone on longer.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: They focus on the crazy. They focus on the flaws,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: much in the same way they treat America. They don't
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: look at how massively successful we have done, all the
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: money that we make and goes out into the world,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: all these social programs that wouldn't exist but for our
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: tremendous wealth that they continue to want to confiscate. They
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: fail to appreciate that the experiment is working, so we
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: don't need to change that. The exclusion of everything else.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: We're going to focus on the original sin of slavery.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: We're going to focus on the Tuskegee experiments. We're going
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: to focus on fill in the blank where America was bad.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: And that makes America bad and unworthy to continue to exist.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, man. That is a propaganda campaign being waged
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: against the country that people just can't see through and
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: pay closer attention to all the great that we have
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  Speaker 1: done and continue to do in this country, Jack. It's
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  Speaker 1: just mind-boggling to me, my friend.
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  Speaker 11: Barack Obama ran for president in 2008, and he was
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 11: pretty cagey about himself and his own background and about
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 11: his aims. He said there would be no red states,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 11: no blue states. But he also alluded, and we didn't
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 11: quite know what he meant at the time, to his
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 11: desire for a fundamental transformation of the United States. And
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 11: he was talking about socialism. Now, there's no mystery left.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 11: The Democrats are telling us exactly what they want to do.
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  Speaker 11: And this is not like, we mentioned Richard Nixon running
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 11: against Jack Kennedy. And they were arguing about two tiny islands,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 11: Kimoy and Matsu, and what they were going to do
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 11: about them. This is as stark a difference as you
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 11: can possibly face, whether you want a bottom-up government or
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 11: a top-down, big government, socialist, totalitarian government, because that's what's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 11: coming on the way, folks. And however much you may
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 11: dislike Donald Trump, you can't vote for these people.
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  Speaker 1: Heed Jack's warning. Please, dear God, get out and vote.
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  Speaker 1: Help us save the country from the evils of socialism
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: and communism. Jack Atherton, brilliant as always. We are collectively
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: blessed that you are around to provide this valuable information
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  Speaker 1: and breakdown, my friend. I look forward to next Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: as I always do. And between now and then, of course,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: best of health and love to you and your better half.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: It is 7.30 at 55K RCED Talk Station. A very
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: happy Wednesday to you. Always look forward to talking to
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Donovan Neal from Americans for Prosperity, getting an update on
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: the work that they've been able to accomplish here in
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio, as well as opportunities for you
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: and I to get involved and make it so easy,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: for example. And welcome back, Donovan Neal. Pleasure having you on. Congratulations.
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  Speaker 1: 800,000-plus doors knocked on so far. Man, that's almost, what, 10%
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  Speaker 1: of the state's population, isn't it, Donovan?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hadn't thought about it like that, Brian, but yes,
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  Speaker 3: we've been, we were wearing out the shoe leather and, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the knuckles are getting pretty raw from all the door
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  Speaker 3: knocking we're doing, but we'll keep it up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I hope it yields some success. Uh, the
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: Republicans are behind in early voting in the state of
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Ohio and the Democrats have, uh, uh, they're way, way
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: ahead of where they were in the last election cycle.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: And I know election cycles change, but, um, That's a
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: little troubling to me. Republicans typically vote on Election Day, though.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: So and early voting numbers right now do not tell
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the ultimate tale. But I'm just trying to figure out
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: ways to get people to get up and vote. You know,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: we're in this hold your nose. It's like a nationwide campaign.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: Hold your nose and vote Republicans. Hold your nose and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: ignore evil orange men and vote Republican, because the other
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: side is bringing forth disaster to our country.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. You know, I think, yeah, we talk about
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: the pendulum swinging and just dynamics in midterm elections and
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: what that does to the party in power. There's all
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: that for sure. And, you know, the challenge right now
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: is overcoming that enthusiasm gap. And I think, you know,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: my gosh, Brian, if socialism, the reality that socialism is
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: on the ballot and taking over the Democrat Party, 50
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: percent of our nation, if that doesn't motivate you to
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: get out and vote and do the right thing and
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: elect some good conservatives, you know, like the guy we're
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: out stomping for, John Husted. I don't know what will, Brian.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: It's what we've got to do. You can't just vote.
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  Speaker 3: The other message I take to folks, and we hear
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  Speaker 3: this a lot of the doors, you know, unfortunately, and
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: we're talking to, you know, infrequent voters right now, right?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: These are the folks we're trying to shake and wake up.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: And they say, well, I voted for the president. You know,
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: I usually just get out in the presidential election so
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: very flat. I say, well, yes, but we're a democratic republic, right?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: You are represented in by legislators like your senator who
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: actually go make the laws. We need good people doing that.
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  Speaker 3: In my opinion, oftentimes more so than we need the
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: right guy or gal as president. We need the right
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: people representing us in the halls of Congress because that's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: where the rubber meets the road and the laws get made.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. But it's a little disheartening
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  Speaker 1: when I saw that New York Times article about Republican
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: super PACs pulling financial support from a variety of races.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: most notably hitting home. I can read this line from
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the New York Times article. Republican triage efforts include withdrawing
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: all of the remaining funds that had been reserved for
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: targeting two Democrats running for re-election, most notably one of them,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: Greg Lansman, here in Ohio, running against Eric Conroy. So
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: he's not going to get money anymore? That's them throwing
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: in the towel. That's not a good look, Donovan.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 2: frustrating.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: But, you know, these triage of efforts often happen just
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: having gone through so many cycles. You know, you try
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: to put the chips in the best places. You can
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: do it because you've got a win on the board
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 3: and you're feeling good about internals. You can also do
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: it because, you know, things are getting a little dire. Well,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: let me give you some silver lining here. You know,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: there are more opportunities opening up. Congressional District 9, Marcy Kaptur, 43-year,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: you know, representative Democrat from Northwest Ohio is being taken
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: on by Derek Marin. AFP Action has opened more fronts recently,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: including that one, getting in for Derek Marin. And so where,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: you know, in Southwest Ohio, you know, that might be
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: disheartening news, certainly is disheartening news. There are places where
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: I think fronts are opening up, opportunities are developing, and
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: these triage efforts happen for a multitude of reasons over
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: the final three weeks. So I think the mission here, right,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: and I tell our team this a lot, is keep
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: the faith, stay focused, We've got a.
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  Speaker 1: Job to do.
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  Speaker 7: Our job, the job of all your listeners as well, Brian.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: If you're concerned about the future of this country, it's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: get out the vote, knock doors, go to rallies, get people,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: shake them, wake them up, and remind them what they
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: need to go do because that's how you overcome. At
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, that's how you overcome the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: adversity and challenges that maybe you and some of your
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: listeners are hearing out there right now, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and you've got to engage in outreach beyond the
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: traditional core Republican base. Like, for example, Donald Trump was
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: able to make some serious inroads into the Hispanic community
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: as well as the black community. Traditionally, 100% lockstep Democrat voters.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: I know that's a broad brush, but you get the idea.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of them moved over and gravitated toward Trump
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: because the other choice was apparently Kamala Harris, which nobody wanted.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: But I know Bernie Moreno had an outreach effort the
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: other day with Libra.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Libra Initiative is our coalition through AFP with the
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: Hispanic community. It's led by Lear Marin Markham. She's a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: phenomenal community organizer in the Hispanic community across the state
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: of Ohio. And she hosted a telephone town hall. We
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: reached out to tens of thousands of Hispanic, Latino, Ohioans.
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  Speaker 3: I think we had the final number was about 20,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: 25,000 joined us for this hour-long conference, telephone town hall
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  Speaker 3: with Bernie Moreno. And it just really provided an opportunity
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: to remind folks of what's at stake if– when you
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: elect someone like Bernie Moreno, someone who's voting for the
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 3: working family tax cuts, someone who understands the perils of
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 3: socialism because he– his family fled that when he was
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: a kid. You know the story well. And it provides
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: us an opportunity through La Year and the team there
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: at Libre. to really go and make those inroads into
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: that community and remind them that, hey, look, the first, second,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: third generation Hispanic Americans, you left, you know, many of
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 3: your ancestors, family members fled socialist failed experiments in South
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: and Central America. You came to America for freedom and liberty.
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  Speaker 3: They're the folks who best understand. Brian, my ancestors came here,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: you know, centuries ago, right? We've been here a long time.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: We forget maybe some of the things that are at
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: risk and how fragile this nation is. But Libre brings
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: that message to the Hispanic and Latino communities across Ohio.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 3: And we're honored to have Bernie Moreno share his story
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: and fire folks up and remind them of how important
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: all that is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as you mentioned, fleeing socialist countries, and there
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: are so many stories from people who lived it and
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: experienced it, you know, warning us. It's a cautionary tale.
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  Speaker 1: Look what I went through and had to run away from.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: When Venezuela went off on socialism, what happened? All of
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: the best and brightest and those capable of leaving left.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Why does that happen over and over again? Cuba has
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: to keep its people within the borders. You can't take
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: a boat out of Cuba. They'll stop you in your tracks.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: It's like trying to get out of East Berlin into
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: West Berlin. Why do people flee oppression? Because it's oppression.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, look around you. This is just why it's
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: so crazy that we're even having this conversation. And you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: need to launch a campaign on Americans for Prosperity. FightSocialism.com.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: So the other thing we've got going on, we're working
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: on all the fronts, Brian. We're not going to leave
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  Speaker 3: anything on the field.
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  Speaker 1: We never do.
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  Speaker 3: But I just did a webinar yesterday with a handful,
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: with about 115 folks who signed up to learn how
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: to fight socialism. And we talked about, through this training,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: what you got to do to actually go and bring
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: that message to the masses. And it's about, right, the
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: big thing we focus on is equipping people to go
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: out and evangelize on the messages of liberty and freedom.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: And it doesn't happen by fighting with people. It doesn't
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 3: happen through the name-calling and mudslinging that so many people,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: I think, believe politics has to be. It happens acknowledging
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: that the issues that folks are concerned about, right, housing costs,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: fuel costs, cost of living, grocery store, These are things
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: that socialism claims to have the answers to. But we
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: know all too well from those experiments that you just listed, Brian,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: that they don't work.
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  Speaker 1: And there are so many more. I just brought it up.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: First ones that came to my mind. The Soviet Union. Remember,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't let their people out. You had to de-fact
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: and you had to do it under a cloak of darkness.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, on and on and on. It's just like, ah,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: wake up.
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  Speaker 3: We've got the answers to these problems, right? From housing
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: to education to cost of living, we have the answers
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: to these problems. Our founding fathers knew them 250 years ago.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: And we get to go out and be happy warriors
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: to evangelize and drive that message home and share why freedom, liberty,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: free enterprise are the solutions to these problems. And so
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: from knocking doors to get people out to vote, to
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: engaging and opening new fronts with the Hispanic community, to
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: our efforts to fight socialism and equip people across the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: state and region to go do that. We're fighting, and all.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 7: Your listeners are invited, Brian.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: I know you always give us a good plug here,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: but all your listeners are invited, and I think we
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: have a few more folks in the fight. Good things
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: are to come.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, fightsocialism.com. I'm staring at the page right now. You
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: can get involved. You can take action. You can give
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: AFP a little bit of money to help them continue
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: their mission throughout the year, but there are lots of opportunities.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: And we can make some inroads with some people who
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: might be sitting on their hands. Isn't that right, Donovan O'Neill?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 7: Well, that's it, right?
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: I say this a lot, right? You're watching the TV,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: something triggers you in the news, and you throw the
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: remote at the TV, and you go stomp off and
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: find something else to do. Well, instead of doing that, right,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: here's what I want your listeners to do. Turn the
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: TV off. put your shoes on, grab your keys, get
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: in the car, and join us at a county chapter, right?
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Get involved, get in the fight, help make a difference.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: 30 minutes, three hours, a weekend, whatever it is that
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: you can give in terms of your time, talent, certainly treasure,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: that makes a difference, and we just need more people
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: and in the civic process involved with organizations like ours
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: to help make defend this great nation and it's 250
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: years of history.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Do that get involved Americans for Prosperity is the place
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: to do it Donovan we'll talk next week keep your
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: fingers crossed and keep up the great work my friend
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: thanks as always Brian 740 here at 55KRC, the talk station.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: Sherry Poland, Board of Elections, talk station. 747 at 55KRC,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: the talk station. Hey, did you know that early voting
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: is going on right now? Someone who knows that and
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: is looking for a little assistance, welcome back to the
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: 55KRC Morning Show. Sherry Poland from the Hamilton County Board
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: of Elections and Let me just sing praises of my
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: experience with the Hamilton County Board of Elections. It is
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: a well-oiled machine, in and out, virtually no time, plenty
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: of room, plenty of parking. The old days are gone,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: and it's easy to get in and vote. So as
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: I say, go out and vote, to my listening audience.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Sherry. It's great having you on, and thanks
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: for the great work you're doing at the Hamilton County
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: Board of Elections.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on, and thank you for that compliment.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: I'll share it with our hardworking team here.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Please do. And before we get to your need for
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: poll workers, I noted on the Hamilton County, your site,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: which is VoteHamiltonCountyOhio.gov. That's where you find the Hamilton County
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Board of Elections. You had a post for seasonal employment.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: This is separate from poll worker needs? You need people
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: there at the Board of Elections to work?
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 8: We do hire a number of seasonal employees during election cycles. Fortunately,
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 8: those positions are full. We do, yeah, those are full.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 8: We've just had our last orientation. We do have some
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 8: positions available to work here election night at the board.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 8: It's basically, you know, helping us unload the trucks for
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: those that are, you know, physically capable of doing that
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 8: to help us unload the ballot bags, equipment. and then
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 8: also do some inspections and assist with the vote count.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 8: So I know we're going to talk about poll workers
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 8: in a minute, but we do have openings for the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 8: opposition too. So if you're not able to work all day,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 8: you could come and help us out election night.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. And in terms of voting, you have a schedule
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: for when people can stop in the Hamilton County Board
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: of Election and cast their vote. Can we just go
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: through that right now? Because I'm on this tear of
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: late to get people to early vote. And it looks
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: like you've had a sizable number of people According to
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: WCPO reporting, the number of at least Democrats that have
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: come in is a 300% increase over the last time.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: So are you seeing a lot of foot traffic? Is
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: it more? Are you seeing numbers that you normally experience, Sherry?
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 8: Oh, our early in-person numbers are definitely up. We are,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: as of close of business yesterday, we've had 14,000 people
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 8: already vote here. Yeah, the Board of Elections since last Tuesday.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 8: So in comparison to the last midterm, at the same
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 8: point in time, we had just a little over 4,000.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: So definitely an increase in early in-person voting. I think
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 8: more and more people are choosing to cast their ballots
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: this way.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Well, again, why not? You don't know what's
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: going to happen on Election Day. If you really know
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: you want to vote and you're going to wait for
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Election Day, you don't know what's going to come on
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Election Day. You know, the world's an imperfect place, Sherry Poland,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: so why not just get it out of the way? Anyway,
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: between now, it looks like Monday through Friday, 8 a.m.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: to 5 p.m., is that weekdays that you're open?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 8: That's correct. That's this week and next week. And then
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 8: we start going into some extended hours. So, for example, Saturday,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 8: October 24th, we'll be open from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 8: And then that final week before Election Day, we open
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: weekdays at 7.30 a.m. We're open until 7.30 p.m., Monday
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 8: through Friday, that final week. There's one exception. Tuesday, October 27th,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 8: the board actually stays open until 8.30 p.m. because that
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 8: is also the last day to request your vote-by-mail ballot.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: So the Secretary of State orders all board speakers to
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 8: stay open an extra hour for in-person voting and also
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 8: to receive those vote-by-mail applications. And then, of course, we're
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 8: open the last weekend before Election Day, Halloween. We will
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 8: be here Halloween, 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. So you
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: can come and vote before you go take the kids trick-or-treating.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 8: And then Sunday, November 1st, those are our shortest hours,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 8: 1 to 5 p.m., and that is the last day
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 8: to vote early in person. There is no voting on Monday,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 8: November 2nd, the day before Election Day closes. gives us
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 8: a little time to turn the ship around and focus
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 8: on Election Day.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. And Election Day requires poll workers, which is
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: what we're going to pivot to now, because every year, Sherry,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: you come on every election cycle, make the same request,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: and I implore my listeners to consider working the polls
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: and also maybe get their young people, seniors that are
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: 17 years old in high school, they can work the
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: polls now, right, Sherry?
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  Speaker 11: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 8: In the state of Ohio, 17-year-olds can work the polls.
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  Speaker 8: They're paid the same amount as their adult counterparts, $ 225.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: So that's a nice little chunk of change for a 17-year-old.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: Of course, we do not assign them to manager positions,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 8: but they do a tremendous job in helping us with
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: some of the more physical aspects of the job, setting
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 8: up the voting booths, putting the signs outside. And they're
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 8: so comfortable with today's technology, and they can check in
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 8: voters on our tablets very quickly. So highly encourage 17-year-olds.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 8: And it would look great on a job application or
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 8: college application.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I think the real value is there. I mean,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: they get to learn about their civic responsibility, and they
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: can experience Election Day. But just the idea that they
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: did take that step, it obviously sets them apart from
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of other young people that clearly they're going
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: to be competing with in higher education spots. All right,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: so for the rest of the world, Sherry Poland, what
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: is involved? Let's walk through the details of your obligations
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: if you do choose to work the polls.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's easy to sign up. You could just
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 8: simply go on to our website. You mentioned it before,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 8: and then click on the poll worker button. You can
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 8: apply online, or if you prefer, you can give us
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 8: a call at the Board of Elections, 513-946-8500. We will
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: assign you to a training class, so all poll workers
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 8: are required to to attend a training course here at
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 8: the Board of Elections headquarters in Norwood. We offer those
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 8: training courses weekdays, mornings, afternoons, and evenings, and then we
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 8: have Saturday morning and afternoon classes, so we have a
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 8: class that will fit anyone's schedule. Then after they are well-trained,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 8: they will go to their assigned polling location on Monday,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: November 2nd, So in the evening to the day before
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: Election Day, they meet their fellow poll workers, set up
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 8: the polling place, then they go back on Election Day.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 8: We do require them to be in at 530 in
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 8: the morning. We know that's very early, but we want
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 8: to make sure the polls are ready to be open
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 8: by 630 a.m.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Well, it's not that early.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely not for you.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Said the guy who gets up at 230 in the morning, right?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: That's a sleeping in day. 530, come on, you can
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: manage that one day. Yeah, and I'll give my wife
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: serious props because I think she worked at Pulse for
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: about a decade. She's taking a little hiatus now, but
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: she did put in and always enjoyed it. That's the
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: other thing. This isn't like walking into this political minefield.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody plays very nicely together, at least if history is
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: any guide. Isn't that right, Sherry?
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 8: You know, it's still a place where Democrats and Republicans
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 8: work together for the good of the people.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 8: And it's it's not a difficult job. You know, we
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 8: train you and believe me, we have tremendous amount of
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 8: support for the poll workers on Election Day. We have
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 8: troubleshooters that are out in the field ready to help them.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 8: We have a staff to help that specifically for poll workers.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 8: So it's not a difficult job, but it's such an
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 8: important job. And you're right, they get along, they work together.
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 8: We put our politics aside and we just focus on
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 8: our common mission, and that's to conduct free and fair elections.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 8: And poll workers actually bring democracy into their community. So
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 8: it's a really rewarding experience. As your wife works for
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 8: more than a decade, which we so appreciate, we find
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 8: that a lot. 70% of our poll workers return every
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 8: election cycle. So we have, you know, they come back.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 8: I think that if it was, you know, a challenging
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 8: or unpleasant experience, we wouldn't have so many comeback elections
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 8: at every election.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Sherry Poland, again, thanks to you and everybody at
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: the Hamilton County Board of Elections to get your mail-in ballot.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: You can do it at the website to sign up
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: for working the polls. You can do it at the website,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: which is VoteHamiltonCountyOhio.gov. Sherry, best of luck between now and
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: the election day and, of course, on election day. And
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: thanks again for my listening audience for the fine work
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: that you do. 805 55 care cd talk station happy
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: wednesday pleased to welcome the 55 care c morning show
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: he is running for county commissioner you have three choices
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: and my next guest jonathan pearson is one of those
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: choices jonathan great to have you on the show this morning.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 7: Welcome well good morning brian thank you.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: And i'll encourage my listeners uh to the extent they
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: want to hear what the candidates for county commissioner have
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: to say there's a really i would say a well
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: done wvxu morning edition uh article out there when they
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: talk to each one of the candidates and about their
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: policies and what they're, you know, what you want out
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: of the commission and what you plan on changing, addressing
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: the concerns. But I just wanted to start off by
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the last point you made in your conversation. I am
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: old school. You have questions. Just call me and you
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: post your phone number. 513-562-0611 or email Pearson for transparency
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: at gmail.com. You have an open door policy and you
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: haven't even been elected yet, Jonathan. I think that's very cool.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 7: Well, I figure that if this is about the citizens
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 7: and it's their money, we don't have nuclear codes in
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 7: the Hamilton County. So I've never understood the secrecy that
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 7: goes on in government anywhere in Cincinnati or the county.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Or candidates that refuse to debate their opponents. That's not you, Jonathan.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 7: Well, anyway, I've actually had a lot of people give
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 7: me a phone, a direct phone call, and I'm glad
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 7: that they have. And I've, uh, they've texted me and things.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 7: I'm happy to respond to them.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: Perfect. I, I, rarely do we hear from a politician
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: or a candidate for political office that is that open
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: and willing to talk to folks of any political stripe
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: that want to call them up. So Jonathan, I salute
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: you for that. Now, what are you here? Why are
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: you running for County commissioner? And what are you hearing
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: that people want addressed by Hamilton County commissioners? Because there's
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: only a finite amount of responsibility that County commissioners have,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: but it does extend into most of our lives in
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: some way, shape or form.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 7: Well, what I always tell people is it's the most boring,
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: important job in the county because it deals with our money.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 7: And nobody ever talks about it. That means every dime
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 7: of tax and property dollars eventually flow through there. And
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 7: that's a lot of money. And people just kind of like, oh, yes,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 7: it does this, this, and this. And, you know, it's
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 7: okay as long as they can go to work in
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: the morning. You know, they never think twice about it
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 7: until January and July when they have to pay that
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 7: tax bill. And that's the big one. the property tax
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 7: bills are just getting crazy. Mine has literally doubled in
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 7: 16 years in Fairfax. I mean, doubled. In 16 years,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 7: you know, now, that's my big thing. My simple proposal
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 7: to that, Brian, for your taxes on your property tax,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 7: and this affects renters. I want everybody to know this.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 7: Renters pay property tax. There's no such thing as a
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 7: benevolent landlord that says, nah, I won't add the property
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 7: tax to my building onto that. So renters pay property tax,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 7: and I hate hearing people say renters don't pay it.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 7: And if it's a four-unit or bigger in Hamilton County,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 7: there's a premium put on top of that property tax.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 7: So renters of four units or bigger are actually paying
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 7: more property tax percentage-wise than I or you are. So
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 7: my simple proposal is this. What you paid for your
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 7: house is what your taxes are based on. That's it
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 7: until you die or leave.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: It's not complicated. There's not that capital gains penalty that
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: people are dealing with right now. I'd like to express
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: it in terms of that you don't pay any taxes
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: until you sell your investments and you pay taxes on
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: what you earn.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 7: It's the exact same principle. We thought it was stupid
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 7: when Kamala offered it for stocks. Why do we go
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 7: home and say, yeah, but it's not stupid for our house?
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: It's a great point. And, you know, this whole issue
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: to me centers around seniors. You know, at least I'm
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: still making a salary. My wife is. We can afford
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: the outrageous property tax bill, but we've got a source
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: of revenue. Seniors many times are on a fixed income,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: and you're basically taxing them right out of a place
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: that they own outright. That's sinful, if I can call
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: it that.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 7: Brian, many years ago, I sat in a council meeting
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 7: at a particular city. I'll be kind to the city.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 7: I was going to mention them by name, but I won't.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 7: A couple came in. They've been living there for many years,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 7: and they said their tax bill is.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 10: $ 9, 500.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 7: And they said that's more money than we paid in
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 7: any year paying our mortgage, our insurance, and our property
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 7: taxes then. A councilman stood up at that meeting, looked
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 7: at that elderly couple dead in the eye, and said,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: you can move.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 7: We don't need that kind of BS anymore. said to
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 7: our citizens, I'm sorry, I don't care whether you're a Democrat,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 7: a Libertarian, an Independent, or a Republican. We don't need
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 7: that kind of BS being said to them. If you
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 7: want to live in a particular community, there's no excuse
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 7: that the government's taxing you out of living there. And
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 7: that just irritates me.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: It's sort of a form of not forced loyalty, but
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: if you're loyal to where you live, You're less inclined
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: to move if you know you're not going to have
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: to continue to pay inflated property taxes each and every
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: year they raise them. So, you know, there's incentive to stay,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: which I would think many counties would want.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: Well, see, that's what I want is say you redo
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 7: your kitchen and you actually paid, legitimately paid $ 35, 000 to
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 7: redo your kitchen. That's great. But they come along and say, well,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: since you redid your kitchen, we think it added $ 90, 000
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 7: in value. They add $ 90, 000 to your value of your
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 7: tax base. not the $ 35, 000 you actually paid. That's what
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 7: I want. So that way, if you do a renovation,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 7: it's only the actual monies you spent on that renovation
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 7: to your contractor if you did it yourself.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: Fair enough.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 7: Not there. And that, to me, is very fair. But
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 7: the biggest thing this does, Brian, if I have a
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: 3.7 mil levy against my house... They come back in
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: seven years and say, well, we're not raising your taxes.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 7: It's going to stay 3.7. Well, of course, my house
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 7: raised $ 200, 000. Of course, you're going to get triple what
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 7: you were making before. Well, now they actually have to
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 7: come back and say, we want 7.4. And nobody votes
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 7: for a 7.4 levy. And this changes how they have
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 7: to ask for a tax. This changes the idea that
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 7: schools are getting $ 20, 000, $ 25, 000 per student in the public
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 7: school system to educate them with, you know, in Cincinnati is,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 7: I'll be honest, it's pure crap. You have a 19%
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 7: readiness rating to go to college from their 52% graduates.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 7: That's awful. 9% of the people that go through Cincinnati
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 7: schools are ready for college. How awful is that? And
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 7: yet we're paying a fortune and they're asking for another
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 7: ton of money.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: They are, and that's the kind of thing I was
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: speaking of earlier this morning. Are you going to reward
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Public Schools when that's the type of education
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: outcome you get in return for what may be very
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: well a lot more money out of your pocket if
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: the levy passes?
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 7: The one thing commissioners have by fiscal solvency, fiscal responsibility,
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 7: is this. In any neighborhood that you have issues with finances,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 7: you see crime. And if we can start to help
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 7: to stabilize it through something, through getting through the state
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 7: to change the tax base of how we tax homes
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 7: and properties, and including apartment complexes, I include those in
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 7: that because renters are citizens too. People tend to act
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 7: like they're some pariah. They're not. And I think that
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 7: we've missed that. But if we can tame down the
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 7: economy in that way, crime starts to tame down. And
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 7: guess what happened? Businesses look at Hamilton County and go,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: I like it. Because honestly, the first job of a
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 7: Hamilton County commissioner is to be the cheerleader for the county.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 7: Because I tell people, you go from Cleves to the
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 7: east side, it's like going through three different states in
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 7: this county. This is an awesome county. I love going
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 7: through Hamilton County. And ironically, not only those three different states,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 7: but it's like three different sets of people from, you know,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 7: go clear to the west side, middle, clear to the
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 7: east side. It's kind of funny. We always joke about
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 7: don't crossing the wall at 75 from east to west.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 7: But there is a distinct difference, and I think that's
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: a beautiful reality of our county. But people don't look
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 7: at it that way because we're so worried about the
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 7: crime that's happening in the dead center of it, right,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 7: mainly in Cincinnati itself. But, you know... Through that, we
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 7: can start to tame that down because the other thing
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 7: that the commissioners do take care of is the budget
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 7: that go through the sheriff's department. It goes down to
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 7: the prosecutor's office, to jail, other things like that. And
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 7: those are all things that affect the safety and the
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 7: willingness of citizens to want to stay or leave. But
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 7: businesses wanting to come in. And guess what happens when
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 7: we have more businesses? We have better tax bases and
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 7: we can keep our taxes lower. So commissioners have a
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: great effect on this county about its safety and its
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: fiscal responsibility.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Well, you even acknowledge, I suppose, when you're talking to WBX,
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: you have limited authority to change the current tax structure
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: insofar as property taxes are concerned.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: That would be a state issue.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 7: The voice of a commissioner is very big. It's very
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 7: big because, you know, old school methodology of the state
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 7: was that the commissioners of counties were very powerful. Well,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 7: the irony is that old school didn't change. They still are.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 7: We just got new technology and new things, but that
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 7: voice is still very powerful and carries a lot of weight.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 7: And Hamilton County is one of those heavyweight counties that
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 7: can throw a lot of voice to Columbus. And Columbus
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 7: doesn't immediately respond and say, oh, because they said this. No,
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 7: but it makes a lot of people think. Plus the
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 7: bully pulpit by being able to come on shows like yours,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: TV and others and say, hey, we really should make
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 7: this better for the citizens. You start getting the grassroots
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 7: efforts of people talking to their citizens. and saying, hey,
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 7: that's a good idea.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: We're talking with Jonathan Pearson this morning, or I'm talking
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: with Jonathan Pearson. We are all enjoying the benefits of
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: insight into his campaign for county commissioner here in Hamilton County.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Early voting's going on right now. You can get in
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: there and vote for Jonathan. I think it's a strong bet.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Don't go away, Jonathan. I'm going to get some more
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  Speaker 1: of your campaign platforms. What are you going to do
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: when you are elected county commissioner? Talk station. It's 819
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  Speaker 1: at 55KRC, the talk station. Very happy Wednesday to you.
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  Speaker 1: Talking with Jonathan Pearson, running for Hamilton County Commissioner. Feel
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: free to call him directly, 513-562-0611, or shoot him an email,
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  Speaker 1: pearson4transparency at gmail.com. Open door policy he has. I love
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  Speaker 1: that out of the gate. And one of the other
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  Speaker 1: things we have to deal with in Hamilton County, we
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  Speaker 1: have a real sewer problem, Jonathan. I feel terribly sorry
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: for folks whose basements flood with sewage and the cleanup.
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  Speaker 1: And this has been going on for a long, long time.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any control the Hamilton County Commissioners have over
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: getting projects accomplished and alleviating this problem that we have
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  Speaker 1: over and over again, Jonathan?
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  Speaker 7: Well, the reality is the county owns the sewer department.
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  Speaker 7: It's run by the city. Therein lies part of the problem.
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  Speaker 7: The city. The city is so tied up in making
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  Speaker 7: sure that we do quotas, DEI, and all the other...
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  Speaker 7: DEI stands for doing everything idiotically. Let's just be honest
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 7: with you. That's exactly what that stands for. They actually
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 7: have to order parts at the sewer department, the Metro sewer,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 7: from a DEI... supplier who only deals with subsidiaries that
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 7: are DEI. I can go to Grainger and get the
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  Speaker 7: same part within a day or a week when they're
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 7: waiting six weeks to six months for the same part. Now,
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 7: what do you think that does to getting.
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  Speaker 1: A job done?
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  Speaker 7: And what do you think that does to the cost?
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  Speaker 7: But they won't tell you that that's why the delay is.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 7: They'll just say it's because of this or that. So
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 7: the absolute stupidity of when we start putting all these
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  Speaker 7: things in there If we actually ran the city and
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 7: the county on meritocracy as opposed to making sure that
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: we did a certain subset, did this or that, we
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 7: would stop 90% of our problems. But for all of us,
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 7: our bills went from three months to one month, and
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  Speaker 7: we're paying the same in one month that we used
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  Speaker 7: to pay for three months.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Oh, my word. Every time I
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: get that bill, my mouth falls open in disbelief.
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  Speaker 7: And it's ridiculous, but they figured they could pull a
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 7: fast one on us, but they won't notice that. Yeah,
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 7: they tripled our bills. Now, add that to the property
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 7: tax and everything else, and people are wondering why they
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 7: can't afford to stay in their homes. I don't care
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 7: that we've seen inflation come down. The real person isn't
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 7: sitting out there going, well, at least inflation is only 2.9. Well,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: who gives a damn at this point? Because you're just
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 7: trying to figure out how to pay your bills.
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  Speaker 1: Bills that won't go down.
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  Speaker 7: Well, they won't go down because we're allowing too many
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 7: of these subset ideas to be thrown into the mix
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 7: that have nothing to do with the production of the job.
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  Speaker 7: And so what I would like to do is sit
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  Speaker 7: down with and look at that budget, have a meeting
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  Speaker 7: every single Monday morning with MSD and say, what are
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 7: you doing this week? And what'd you get done last week?
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  Speaker 7: And where's our cost factor in this? And if we
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 7: hold them to the fire every week, not once a quarter,
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  Speaker 7: whatever else they're doing, I don't even know what their
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 7: schedule is, but I, my, it's, thing. I used to
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  Speaker 7: work for a private estate that I helped subdivide. I
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 7: was the general foreman for the property. It was 200 acres.
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  Speaker 7: Real simple thing. You know what we did? Every Monday, okay,
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  Speaker 7: what are we doing this week? What are we going
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  Speaker 7: to get done? You think this is going to be
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  Speaker 7: done in time? Are we going to stay within the
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  Speaker 7: track of our budget this week? And you know what
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: happened every Friday? We could have a checklist of what
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  Speaker 7: we need to make sure we get this done, or
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  Speaker 7: we did. We're ahead of time. It wasn't complicated. We
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 7: did the same thing on the golf course when I was,
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  Speaker 7: when I was running, helping run golf courses. It's not complicated.
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  Speaker 7: So what you can't do it because that's, they're just
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  Speaker 7: a big department. Well, what does size mean? Size doesn't
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  Speaker 7: mean anything. It just means there's more people. You still
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 7: have a few people who control it. So you sit
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  Speaker 7: down with them and say, what's going to go on
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  Speaker 7: this week? And we always act all surprised. They're just
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  Speaker 7: so big. It's really hard to get everything together. We're
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 7: not trying to get every single worker in the sewer
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  Speaker 7: department together every Monday. We're getting the core people saying,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 7: what's going on? It's not complicated.
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  Speaker 1: It's best practices. What you're suggesting is they're not engaging
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  Speaker 1: in best practices. They're not reflecting on the inefficiencies that
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: surround them each and every day and doing something about it. Jonathan.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, on the flip side, though, I will say
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  Speaker 7: the citizens do have to step up to their part.
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  Speaker 7: You know, when MSD comes through and says, we need
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 7: to dig up your front yard to do this, don't
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 7: be sitting there and saying, yeah, but that's my front yard.
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  Speaker 7: So don't dig here. Why do you think Fairmont, which
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 7: is a poor neighborhood, got a beautiful drainage system and
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 7: Mount Lookout, Hyde Park and all the other places that
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 7: got flooded? Because I go to church at St. Cecilia's
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 7: in Oakley and it was actually on a festival night
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 7: that that massive rain came through. Thankfully, we're here. We've
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 7: mitigated the flood in our own buildings here at the
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  Speaker 7: campus of St.
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  Speaker 11: Cecilia's.
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  Speaker 7: But a lot of people did lose a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 6: Why?
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  Speaker 7: Because a lot of the residents of these areas said,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 7: I don't want you digging up my yard. You'll tear
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 7: down my favorite tree. You'll do this. Well, unfortunately, there
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 7: is a reality to the citizen side. We are going
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 7: to lose some shrubs and bushes to get this stuff
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 7: split apart. So we just have to accept that there
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 7: are certain realities of living in a densely populated neighborhood.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 7: that certain things are going to have to change just
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 7: because of reality of when you dig up the ground
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  Speaker 7: to get to those pipes, you can't just simply slide
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  Speaker 7: these through like you do your, your dog fence. It's
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 7: the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's a, it's a nymphy action, not in my front yard.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And, and then that, but unfortunately it does have to
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 7: be in your front yard or your backyard or your
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 7: side yard. And once we can get past that, but
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  Speaker 7: I think if we can let, people realize that MSD
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 7: is being accountable to the budget, we suddenly get a
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 7: little less tense about what they're doing. Again, it gets
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  Speaker 7: back to fiscal responsibility.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Pearson, running for county commissioner. He's on the ballot.
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  Speaker 1: I encourage you to get out and vote, as I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: have been. I know I'm a broken record when it
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: comes to that, but I'm going to have Vivek Ramaswamy
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow, and I think he's going to
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: say the same thing, as will every other guest, as
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: we fast approach November. Jonathan Pearson, it's been a pleasure
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: talking with you. Appreciate your open-door policy. I love what
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: I'm hearing. And I hope that, you know, if you're
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: elected county commissioner, and we can only pray for that,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: that you do make some inroads with the state government
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: on taxes. That's a huge issue for so many people.
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  Speaker 1: And that crosses party lines, doesn't it, Jonathan?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, I haven't found a single person of any party, persuasion, anything,
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  Speaker 7: that's looked at me and said, that's crazy. No, they
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 7: all said the same thing. Oh, if you could get
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  Speaker 7: that through, I'll come and kiss you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm working on it.
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  Speaker 7: That was my favorite, funniest one I had a response from.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: Trust me on that one, Jonathan. Look, hey, bipartisanship exists.
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  Speaker 1: Lower our damn property taxes, Jonathan Pearson. KRC, the talk station.
• 1:54:17
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  Speaker 1: time with Judge Janet Apolitano. Judging Freedom is Judge Janet
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: Apolitano's podcast. We usually end up the segment talking about
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: what he's doing today, but In the meantime, as I
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: say all the time, I get a copy of his column,
• 1:54:32
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• 1:54:34
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• 1:54:37
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  Speaker 9: Thank you, Brian. A pleasure to be with you, and
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 9: welcome back to Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is nice having him back. I have no
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  Speaker 1: idea what peace of mind just having Joe in the
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: production booth gives me, sir. Anyhow, you know, I read
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: your column, and I agree with you. I have told
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  Speaker 1: my listening audience a multitude of times I don't believe
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: in the death penalty. As a younger man, more of
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: a kill them all, let God sort it out kind
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: of guy, I no longer carry that because I no
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: longer really, like I ever should, trust the government. And
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: a government who screws up in prosecuting criminals sometimes convicts
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: the wrong person. And sometimes we find somebody who's been
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: sitting on death row for like 30 years or something
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: ends up DNA evidence, exonerates them. So if that can happen,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: the state shouldn't be able to take a life. And
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: here's the parallel I want to draw. I am a
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Second Amendment fan. I am a firearms owner. I know
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: that in using a firearm, deadly force requires imminent apprehension
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: of grievous bodily harm or fear of death. And if
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: you don't have that, you're not allowed to use deadly force.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of a parallel you're drawing here with the
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: government locking criminals up. They are no longer a threat
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: to society. But then killing them.
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  Speaker 9: Well... You know, I went through the same ideological odyssey
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 9: that you did as a young man, as a law student,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 9: as a young lawyer, even as a judge, though I
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: never tried a capital case. And during my time on
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 9: the bench in New Jersey, the legislature removed the death penalty,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 9: so it became irrelevant. But in my youth... I believed
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  Speaker 9: that it was appropriate. I now believe that the government
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 9: doesn't have the moral and therefore doesn't have the legal
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 9: authority to kill people. What prompted my piece, of course,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 9: was the statement by Secretary of Defense Hegseth that this
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 9: execution will be by firing squad and will be live streamed.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, to me, this is pornographic. this just glorifies
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: killing and makes it a television spectacle. I'm not using
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 9: the television terms because I worked with Pete Hegseth and
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 9: we both worked at Fox, but that's basically what this is.
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  Speaker 9: There's only three or four countries in the world that
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 9: have public executions. So we really want to be in
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 9: the same category as them, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Iran.
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  Speaker 9: And none of them televise them or live stream them
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  Speaker 9: as Hegseth wants to do. To me, this is part
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  Speaker 9: of the Washington Post calls Pete Hegseth Trump's minister of manliness.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 9: It is part of the minister of manliness's glorification of
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  Speaker 9: government and the power that government has to kill government
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 9: killing people should be an absolute last resort and only
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 9: in the case of defense, not in any other case,
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  Speaker 9: particularly not when the person being killed poses no threat
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 9: whatsoever to American life, liberty, or property.
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  Speaker 1: Is it your belief, I don't know that it's ever
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  Speaker 1: been articulated by Hegseth or anybody else that wants this
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  Speaker 1: execution public or live streamed, is it your belief that
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  Speaker 1: That will serve as an illustration to deter others from
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  Speaker 1: similar conduct, which is what the criminal justice system in
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: part is supposed to do, putting aside death? But the alternative, though,
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  Speaker 1: or the way I view this public education or execution is,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: you've just created a poster child martyr for the recruitment
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: of additional people to join the forces with the ISIS folks. Correct.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, this video, if it happens, I think a
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 9: federal judge will probably interfere, although there is an issue
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 9: of standing here because he doesn't have a lawyer and
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 9: he probably wants this live stream. But You will see
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 9: it all over the Middle East, and you will see
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 9: children reacting to it, and you'll see Americans repulsed by it.
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  Speaker 9: The Secretary of Homeland Security, who has nothing whatsoever to
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  Speaker 9: do with this, nevertheless said on Fox the other day, well,
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  Speaker 9: if you don't like it, you don't have to watch it.
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  Speaker 9: You're going to see it everywhere, whether you want to
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 9: watch it. because it is, you know, it's unique. A
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  Speaker 9: plane lands, it's not news. A plane crashes, it's news.
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  Speaker 9: Somebody is executed like they tried to execute Christoph Pike.
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  Speaker 9: It's news when it goes wrong or it's news when
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 9: it's televised. You will see this monstrosity all over the place.
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  Speaker 9: Archbishop Timothy Brolio, who's the, head Catholic chaplain for all
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 9: the military, told any Catholic sharpshooters they must ask to
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 9: be excused from this sharpshooting squad. These guys are going
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 9: to have PTSD for the rest of their lives over
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 9: this kind of use of military force.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I would argue you're right. But then again, I
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: can hear the chorus of voices who want this guy executed.
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  Speaker 1: They want him executed in public. They want to do that,
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: that they would sign up for the job, Your Honor.
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  Speaker 1: There are people out there that wouldn't mind that, I
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: have to observe.
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  Speaker 9: I'm sure there are. But this presumes an extraordinary power
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  Speaker 9: to government, which we have never consented to it having.
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  Speaker 9: The government exists, I'm parroting the Declaration of Independence, I'm
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 9: not making this up, by virtue of the consent of
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 9: the governed. The governed have given individual power that each
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 9: of us has, like self-defense, to the government to exercise
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  Speaker 9: it for us. The governed don't have the power to
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 9: kill someone who presents no threat. So if they don't
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 9: have that power, how can they give it to the government?
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  Speaker 9: I recognize this is a philosophical argument.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 9: It's an extraordinarily libertarian argument.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 9: But the opposite argument, the government can do whatever it
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 9: can get away with, will lead to authoritarianism. And we're
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 9: on the verge of it today.
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  Speaker 1: We are. And I keep, you know, the idea that
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  Speaker 1: government can kill. How many.
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  Speaker 1: Are there that many countries in the world that have
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: the death penalty? I'm trying to reflect on the Supreme
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: Court at one point found it to be cruel and
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: unusual punishment only to reverse itself subsequently, correct?
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 9: Correct. There was a time when there was no death
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 9: penalty in the United States, and then the Supreme Court
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 9: reversed itself. There's not that many countries that do. It's
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 9: illegal in the EU. Russia and China have it, and
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 9: it's illegal in most of Latin America. So you have
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 9: outliers everywhere. like the U.S., China, Russia, Afghanistan, North Korea, Iran,
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 9: that use it. I don't even think Israel has the
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 9: death penalty, though there is legislation in the Knesset to
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 9: make it lawful. This is horrible, but this is the
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 9: legislation for Palestinians only, not for Israelis. Put that aside.
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  Speaker 9: I don't believe it is lawful in Israel. So most
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 9: of the West, indeed most of the world, does not
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 9: have this any longer.
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  Speaker 1: Well, walking through this philosophical analysis, and I'm sorry I
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: didn't go back and look at the Supreme Court case
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: allowing for the death penalty again, but what changed in
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: terms of the court's rationale when outlawing it and then
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: changing the position on cruel and unusual punishment?
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  Speaker 9: Well, first the court said it was cruel and unusual
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 9: because it was applied with a racial animus. And then
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 9: another it's a generation later, so basically another court, because
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  Speaker 9: I had different members on it, but the same Supreme Court,
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  Speaker 9: if you'll follow me, said there's nothing in the federal
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 9: constitution about this, and the states have their own safeguards,
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  Speaker 9: and the death penalty preexisted the country. So the first
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 9: was sort of a modernist, we can't use it in
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 9: a racially animated way, ruling. The second was sort of
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 9: an originalist, it's been around for longer than the country
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 9: has been around. It's up to the states to make
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  Speaker 9: sure it's applied fairly.
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  Speaker 1: That's like a brewing decision insofar as the death penalty
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  Speaker 1: is concerned.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: You know, the last public execution was during the FDR years.
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  Speaker 9: It was around 1936. It was the execution of a
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 9: black man for raping a white woman. There was no
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 9: television then, but 10,000 people showed up to watch this happen.
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  Speaker 9: I was the last public one.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like gladiators in the Roman Empire, Judge Napolitano.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It's kind of sickening to me, and I wasn't surprised,
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  Speaker 9: but I was disappointed to hear Hegseth glorying in it.
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  Speaker 9: He sounded unbalanced the way he was defending this decision.
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  Speaker 9: I understand it's legal. I get it. The law is
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  Speaker 9: not going to change because I think it's unconstitutional philosophically.
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  Speaker 9: But adding this public viewing and live streaming is totally
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  Speaker 9: unnecessary and will be counterproductive.
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  Speaker 1: Counterproductive. I think you're putting it lightly when you call
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  Speaker 1: it counterproductive, Your Honor. The problems that are going to
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  Speaker 1: ensue from that, the recruiting that will most assuredly go on,
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  Speaker 1: the martyrdom that this man will become, a martyr. It's
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  Speaker 1: just a dumb idea. We can just call it that.
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  Speaker 1: Judge Antonio Napolitano, Judging Freedom is the podcast. Find it
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  Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Same group of folks on
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  Speaker 1: a Wednesday, Judge Napolitano?
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  Speaker 9: Yes. Yeah, I have the great Phil Giraldi, Colonel Douglas McGregor,
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 9: and my favorite international investigative journalist, Pepe Escobar, who has
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 9: extraordinary sources in Saudi Arabia, in Yemen, and in Pakistan, too.
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  Speaker 9: Explain to us what is going on there. Why is
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  Speaker 9: the government of one of the richest nations in the world,
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  Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia, about to collapse?
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  Speaker 1: That's a hell of a subject matter. You just got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of listeners going to be tuning in to
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  Speaker 1: Judging Freedom today, Your Honor, and they will tune in
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  Speaker 1: next week. Appointment listening with you on the 55KRC Morning Show,
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  Speaker 1: Wednesdays at 830. God bless you, sir. I appreciate what
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: you do. And thank you for sharing my obviously less
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: than widely popular beliefs about the death penalty.
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  Speaker 5: I just.
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  Speaker 12: You know, and let's try to remind people, prison sucks.
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  Speaker 12: It's not like they're getting let free. They get no liberties,
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  Speaker 12: no freedoms. They can't have a cheeseburger whenever they want.
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  Speaker 12: They'll probably get raped by one of their fellow prisoners.
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  Speaker 1: It's a hellhole. So let them enjoy that for the
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  Speaker 1: rest of their life. Hell on earth, followed by hell
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  Speaker 1: in the afterlife. Can we live with that?
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  Speaker 9: I think we can live with that. Brian, it's a pleasure,
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  Speaker 9: my man. Thank you. See you next week.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great week, my friend. It's 842-55-CARS. The Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go away. Josh Gerth. Warren Davidson and Jay Ratliff
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 1: on tomorrow. In the meantime, welcome back to the 55KRC
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  Speaker 1: Morning Show. From all accounts, doing a really great job
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  Speaker 1: as the chair of the Hamilton County Republican Party. Josh Gerth,
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  Speaker 1: good to have you back on the show.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning.
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  Speaker 10: How are you?
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: I'm doing fine, except for what the hell's going on
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  Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, Sims Township. We've got a bunch of
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: vandals going around stealing GOP signs, although the Enquirer doesn't
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  Speaker 1: focus on that. They focus on the Democrat signs that
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: have been torn down. What's the story on this one?
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  Speaker 7: Well, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: You're right.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, there was some vandalism that happened to several GOP
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  Speaker 10: signs up in your neck of the woods. And God
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  Speaker 10: forbid that this doesn't turn into a major story in
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 10: the Enquirer. I'm actually, as we speak, going back and
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  Speaker 10: forth with one of the reporters at the Enquirer who
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 10: first reported on a Democrat candidate whose signs were targeted,
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 10: coordinated targeting, as they reported. And reached out to me,
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  Speaker 10: didn't take my comment. They did get a hold of
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 10: Ted Winkler and got a comment from him. But when
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  Speaker 10: it happens to our side, all of a sudden, it's
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  Speaker 10: not a story. And again, if you don't think that
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  Speaker 10: this inquire and the way they report stories isn't biased,
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  Speaker 10: it's just this is the perfect example. If it's going
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  Speaker 10: to happen to us as well, let's make it a
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  Speaker 10: big story. I mean, signs, signs, everywhere are signs. Let's
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  Speaker 10: start talking about signs, which you know and I know
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  Speaker 10: are kind of ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so childish to go around and knock down
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  Speaker 1: yard signs. I mean, Lord Almighty, grow up. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: to the extent you think you're bringing it to my
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  Speaker 1: listening audience's attention that the Enquirer is biased politically, trust me,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Gerth, they already got the memo.
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  Speaker 10: That's why, I mean, again, say what you want about
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  Speaker 10: social media. It's why I'm online. kind of railing against
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 10: these people, because I think people do right, wrong or indifferent.
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  Speaker 10: We all have our opinions about social media. It does
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  Speaker 10: get more coverage. And I think it's important to call
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  Speaker 10: out this BS when it's when it happens. And there's
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  Speaker 10: a clear bias when the Inquirer reports about a stupid
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  Speaker 10: sign incident and makes it front-page news and doesn't do
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  Speaker 10: it when it happens to us.
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  Speaker 7: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Obviously, that is in an effort to label the
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  Speaker 1: Republicans as the evil vandals in the world when, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: we know what's going on, perhaps even larger to the
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  Speaker 1: extent on Republican yard signs. Anyway, don't be that guy.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Gerth had a kind of Republican party. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a real challenge on our hands here in Hamilton County.
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  Speaker 1: We all understand the political dynamics going on here, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's necessarily time to bring the
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  Speaker 1: flag out and give up completely. But the judicial races
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  Speaker 1: are so damn important, and so many people of all
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  Speaker 1: political stripes are not defund the police, get rid of
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  Speaker 1: law enforcement, and, of course, light on crime, notably in
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: the juvenile court system, where we have Carrie Bloom, who
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 1: apparently does not believe in holding juveniles accountable. And I
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  Speaker 1: think this is an issue that crosses political lines. If
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  Speaker 1: I live in any neighborhood, if I'm any color person,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, I want a safe neighborhood. And you need
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  Speaker 1: a strong criminal justice system to serve as a warning
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  Speaker 1: shot over the bow of these young people that they
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  Speaker 1: will suffer consequences. Carrie Bloom, she doesn't have that philosophy.
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  Speaker 1: She lets these kids out all the time.
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  Speaker 5: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 10: And it's a foundation of what is normal and safe
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  Speaker 10: and reasonable.
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  Speaker 7: In our county.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, I don't understand. And I'm talking to Republicans
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  Speaker 10: out there, since I know most of the people listening
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  Speaker 10: to your station are. If you don't go vote between
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  Speaker 10: now and.
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  Speaker 7: November 3rd, you are terrible. You're part of the problem.
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  Speaker 7: We have lawlessness.
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  Speaker 10: We have children getting raped and murdered. It's ridiculous because
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  Speaker 10: of what is happening in one specific court. If we
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  Speaker 10: change that court alone, it changes the trajectory of law
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  Speaker 10: and order in our county for years to come. It
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  Speaker 10: literally changes.
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  Speaker 7: What is happening.
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  Speaker 10: And if you want to know what exactly we're talking about,
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  Speaker 10: Go to the Hamilton County Republican Facebook page or go
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  Speaker 10: to our Twitter account and watch what the Republican Party
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  Speaker 10: just put out about Carrie Bloom. It is very powerful,
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  Speaker 10: very powerful.
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  Speaker 7: Watch it.
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  Speaker 10: I put out a statement about it, which, again, I
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 10: think kind of hits people between the eyes of what
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  Speaker 10: is going on in this county. If you need some evidence,
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  Speaker 10: and this is evidence, factual stuff, go and watch that
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  Speaker 10: video and read the report on the website.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's multiple cases you break down here. Let's
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  Speaker 1: give my listeners one of the illustrations, in case they're
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  Speaker 1: not inclined to go over and check it out themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Back when Dieters was Hamilton County prosecutor, victims, police, and
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  Speaker 1: prosecutors agreed to keep a teenager with a multi-jurisdiction crime
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  Speaker 1: spree in a juvenile system, a mandatory six-year term with
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  Speaker 1: no early release, rather than trying him as an adult
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  Speaker 1: where he could have faced up to 60 years in prison.
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  Speaker 1: You can do that. So they agreed to this plea deal, guaranteed, mandatory,
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  Speaker 1: no early release, Six years. What did she do, Josh Gerth?
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  Speaker 1: She released him.
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  Speaker 5: Let him out.
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  Speaker 1: Let him out. Unbelievable. There are multiple illustrations of this,
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  Speaker 1: one after another after another for all to see with
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  Speaker 1: the quotes from the people. I'm glad you put this out.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I can only hope that my listeners, you know,
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  Speaker 1: grab the report and then widely share it on social
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  Speaker 1: media because they're certainly not going to read about something
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  Speaker 1: like this in any of our local news outlets, are they?
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  Speaker 10: Oh, absolutely not. Firejudgebloom.com.
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  Speaker 2: Go there.
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  Speaker 7: Check it out.
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  Speaker 10: You will be shocked. And if you're not shocked, then
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  Speaker 10: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 7: To tell you.
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  Speaker 10: But that's why we need Susan Lucan elected as the
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  Speaker 10: juvenile judge. All of our judges are important. We've got
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  Speaker 10: a great slate. There's nine total. You have to go
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  Speaker 10: down the ballot and vote for all these people. Go
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 10: to the Board of Elections. I know you had Sherry
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  Speaker 10: Poland on earlier.
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  Speaker 7: She is awesome.
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  Speaker 10: What they do there is awesome. It's so easy. The
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  Speaker 10: Democrats are kicking our butt again in terms of early voting.
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  Speaker 10: But the good news, Brian, is that people are going
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  Speaker 10: to vote early, which means that a lot of our
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 10: people are coming on board, too. And obviously, we always
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 10: have a rally towards election day.
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  Speaker 11: Day.
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  Speaker 10: That's just kind of how we are. But I'm encouraged
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  Speaker 10: by the fact that the voting turnout so far is
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 10: significantly more, which is important in these midterm elections. It
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 10: gives me hope that people are paying attention and going
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  Speaker 10: to go get our common sense people elected.
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  Speaker 1: No question about it. And the choice is Lukin. See, Lukin.
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  Speaker 1: Vote Lukin, not Bloom. Vote Lukin. It'll be evident when
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  Speaker 1: you get the ballot. You see Bloom. No, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want Bloom. Who's the alternative? You can't remember Luke. It'll
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  Speaker 1: be the person who's not Bloom.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, and beyond the judges, you know we've got great candidates.
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  Speaker 10: You just talked to Pearson. He's a great common-sense candidate.
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  Speaker 10: I was at an event last night with Eric Conroy.
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  Speaker 7: He's doing great.
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  Speaker 10: They're getting ready to pump a lot more money into
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  Speaker 10: his race. He just announced that last night. Very exciting stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, good, because that runs counter to the narrative the
• 2:13:11
  Speaker 1: New York Times poured out the other day, which said
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: some of the super PACs are pulling funding from his campaign,
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 1: I guess, giving up and thinking Greg Lansman's a foregone conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: That's not the case, is it, Josh?
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  Speaker 7: No, no.
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  Speaker 10: The district that we're in is slightly Republican-favored. Eric's doing
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  Speaker 10: everything he should, and he has the backing. He just
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 10: announced last night we're talking seven-figure investment into his campaign.
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  Speaker 10: This thing is not over. Go vote for Eric Conroy.
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  Speaker 10: Go vote for the Republican ticket, GOPjudges.com.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go, folks.
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  Speaker 10: Get out there and do this.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate your enthusiasm, Josh Garth. We can save the
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: county from itself. That will be our job to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Garth, keep up the great work. We'll have you
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: on the program again real soon, I hope.
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  Speaker 7: Thanks, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: My pleasure. Just shy of 855-55-KRC, the talk station. Jack Atherton,
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 1: always brilliant.