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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Women Who Made His Crimes Possible (Part 5-7) (8/2/26)(1) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: This article again was authored by Tara Palmery over at Politico.
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Speaker 1: You can find the link in the description box the
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Speaker 1: justice system. When Epstein faced charges in Florida, many of
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Speaker 1: his survivors cooperated with investigators, hoping to see him brought
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Speaker 1: to justice. Instead, they came away feeling betrayed by the
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Speaker 1: justice system, including two female prosecutors assigned to oversee their case.
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Speaker 1: Now can you imagine if you were the parents of
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Speaker 1: these young girls and you brought this to the attention
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Speaker 1: of the authorities, and in turn, the authorities flipped the
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Speaker 1: script and turned the tables and tried to posit your
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Speaker 1: daughter as some sort of hooker or prostitute because of
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Speaker 1: a few social media posts. And remember we're not talking
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Speaker 1: about the defense team doing that. While I find it
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Speaker 1: unsavory and a disgusting tactic, that's what the defense team
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Speaker 1: is supposed to do, right, They're supposed to try and
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Speaker 1: get their client off however they possibly can within the
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Speaker 1: guidelines of the law. And if that is destroying the
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Speaker 1: credibility of a witness, then you know that the defense
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Speaker 1: team is gonna go down that path. It is up
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Speaker 1: to the prosecution, the prosecutors, the state to make sure
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Speaker 1: that doesn't occur. Basically, in this case, the prosecutors acted
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Speaker 1: as a proxy for the defense by absolutely destroying their
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Speaker 1: own witnesses credibility. But the report that came out in
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Speaker 1: Florida said everything was okay. There was nothing untowards that
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Speaker 1: occurred there, folks, Come on, it was all above board. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: everybody who's paying attention understands that there is something severely
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Speaker 1: wrong here. In two thousand and six, Epstein was charged
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Speaker 1: in Palm Beach County with solicitation of prostitution, to which
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Speaker 1: he pleaded not guilty, despite the fact that between the
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach Police and the FBI, dozens of the survivors
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Speaker 1: were identified. Epstein was offered a plea deal in two
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Speaker 1: thousand and eight that allowed him to spend just thirteen
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Speaker 1: months in a county jail in his own wing, with
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Speaker 1: private security, and with work release six days per week.
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Speaker 1: I mean, wow, really, how many people are rotting away
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Speaker 1: in jail right now, in prison right now for a
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Speaker 1: lot less than what Jeffrey Epstein did. This guy was
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Speaker 1: treated like he was the Sultan of Brunei. Able to
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Speaker 1: go to his office, able to conduct business, able to
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Speaker 1: keep making money, able to pay security guards hand over
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Speaker 1: fist to sit around in the lobby. I guess according
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Speaker 1: to the report, they didn't even go up to the office.
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Speaker 1: They hung out in the lobby, So how do they
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Speaker 1: know what he's up to. It was all a scam, folks,
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Speaker 1: political theater, whatever you want to call it. But the
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Speaker 1: Eleventh Circuit Court they think that it's all okay. All
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Speaker 1: of this was okay. Oh, there was a couple of
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Speaker 1: mistakes made sure, but nobody broke the law when they
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Speaker 1: absolutely stepped on and crushed the rights of these survivors. No,
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Speaker 1: nobody broke the law. Though, while they are far from
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Speaker 1: the only people involved in the case, two women were
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Speaker 1: the lead prosecutors, Lana Bellaholavic, an assistant state Attorney for
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Speaker 1: Palm Beach County, and Marie Villafauna, an assistant US Attorney
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Speaker 1: for the Southern District of Florida. Now, again, I've been
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Speaker 1: pretty clear about Villa Fauna and how I feel about her.
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Speaker 1: I know some people have tried to position her as
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Speaker 1: some kind of champion here, and I just don't buy it.
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Speaker 1: If she was as concerned as she says she is,
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Speaker 1: why don't you go above the heads of the people
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Speaker 1: that are trying to stop you from your investigation, why
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Speaker 1: don't you elevate it all the way up and leave
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Speaker 1: a paper trail so they have no other choice but
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Speaker 1: to investigate it. I mean, it's basically what Kiki Comarna
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Speaker 1: did down in Mexico when he was working with the
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Speaker 1: DEA when they found the buffalo growing fields. Well do
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Speaker 1: you think the United States wanted to go down there
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Speaker 1: and rock the boat by burning those fields? The DEA agents,
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Speaker 1: Kiki Comorna and his people forced the issue. And sometimes,
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Speaker 1: working as as a federal agent or a police officer,
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Speaker 1: officer or someone in a position such as that, you
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Speaker 1: have to be willing to put your neck on the line.
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Speaker 1: And I don't only mean on the streets, but I
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Speaker 1: mean with your peers. If you see something that's going wrong,
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Speaker 1: you have to step up and do the right thing.
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Speaker 1: And sometimes you have to use some back channels even
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Speaker 1: to force the issue. But what I won't get down with,
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Speaker 1: and what I won't accept is one of these federal
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Speaker 1: agents acting like they had no recourse, acting like there
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Speaker 1: was nowhere to go, nowhere to turn, Because we know
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Speaker 1: that's all bs. We know that federal agents in the past,
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Speaker 1: like the example I just gave you have pushed the envelope.
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Speaker 1: And if the issue really mattered to Villa Fana the
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Speaker 1: way she acts like it did, she would have pushed
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Speaker 1: the envelope. So no, I don't find her to be
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Speaker 1: a hero, folks. Other people might have another opinion, and
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Speaker 1: that's fine, but for me certainly not some sort of
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Speaker 1: hero or champion of the survivor's cause. Both acted under
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Speaker 1: the direction of their respective male bosses, but importantly they
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Speaker 1: served as the point of contact with the survivors and
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Speaker 1: their lawyers, who say they often felt ignored and misled. Now,
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Speaker 1: I certainly am not going to put all of the
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Speaker 1: blame on Lana Belohlavic and Villa Fauna, but they certainly
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Speaker 1: need to shoulder their share. And what Paul Mary's getting
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Speaker 1: at here, what Tara Palmery is getting at here in
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Speaker 1: the article, is she's just magnifying the fact that it's
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Speaker 1: not just women on one side, meaning the side of Epstein,
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Speaker 1: but the women as part of the prosecution who also
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Speaker 1: flubbed up here, who also fumbled the ball here, who
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Speaker 1: also weren't looking out for the best interests of these girls.
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Speaker 1: That's what Tara Palmery is saying here, and it just
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Speaker 1: goes to show you again, you would think that as
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Speaker 1: a woman, that you would be through the roof mad
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Speaker 1: about this sort of occurrence. And if you're a prosecutor
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Speaker 1: and in a position where you can do something about it,
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Speaker 1: you would think that you would damn well kick it
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Speaker 1: into gear and do something about it. But instead Villa
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Speaker 1: Fauna and others they didn't. They accepted it. Ultimately, it
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Speaker 1: is Belohllavic and Villa Fanna's names that are on Epstein's
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Speaker 1: non prosecution agreement, plea deal and light jail sentence. So again,
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Speaker 1: don't think that the federal prosecutors are stupid, right, don't
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Speaker 1: think that Mukasey and company, Acosta and the rest of
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Speaker 1: them are stupid. This was all concocted from way on
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Speaker 1: up top, folks, I am convinced of that. If you
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Speaker 1: think that Mukasey had nothing to do with this deal,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. One of the
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Speaker 1: main things of a bureaucracy is that there are many
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Speaker 1: hands in the pie at all times. And when you
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Speaker 1: have something as serious as this, something as high profile
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Speaker 1: as this, you better believe that Mukasey's office was involved
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Speaker 1: in every bit of this decision making, and the fact
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Speaker 1: that this guy has fly, has flown under the radar
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Speaker 1: for so long and nobody ever even really brings him up.
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Speaker 1: I can't recall one single legacy media article bringing him up.
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Speaker 1: I wonder why that is. Don't you think the guy
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Speaker 1: that was in charge of the whole entire shebang should
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Speaker 1: be asked a few questions, you know, maybe like why
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Speaker 1: are there a year's worth of emails missing? Might be
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Speaker 1: a good place to start. But again we see that
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Speaker 1: there's no responsibility, no self responsibility, no institutional responsibility. Even
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Speaker 1: the two guards who fell asleep supposedly are getting off,
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Speaker 1: so there is no self responsibility. There's no there's nobody
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Speaker 1: taking the lead here, right. Everybody will deflect. Villafano will
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Speaker 1: say it was Chrishier, and Krisher will say it was
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Speaker 1: a Costa, and a Costo will punt somewhere else, and
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Speaker 1: then it gets lost in the belly of the bureaucracy
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Speaker 1: and everybody shrugs their shoulders and just moves on. That's
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Speaker 1: how it usually works. This time, though it's not the case.
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Speaker 1: People want answers, and I think that a lot of
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Speaker 1: those answers when it comes to this deal, you'd have
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Speaker 1: to start out of place like Mukesey's office to get
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Speaker 1: to the real bottom of all of this. The two
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Speaker 1: women were handed compelling evidence. The late Detective Joe Riccari
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Speaker 1: of the Palm Beach Police Department investigated for more than
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Speaker 1: a year, identifying five teenage victims and seventeen witnesses. Five
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Speaker 1: victims and seventeen witnesses. It's a prosecutor's dream case. Talk
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Speaker 1: about open and shut and moving on to the next one.
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Speaker 1: Don't these prosecutors love to get those cases moving through
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Speaker 1: the court systems. Well, they had a treasure trove here,
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Speaker 1: a treasure trove. Now, imagine in any logical world where
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Speaker 1: there are five teenage victims and seventeen witnesses and you
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Speaker 1: get a plea deal like Jeffrey Epstein got. Can you
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Speaker 1: tell me in any version of reality where that's okay? Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: you got people doing twenty five thirty year bids with
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Speaker 1: a lot weaker evidence than this. So when they say
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Speaker 1: Gilaine Maxwell's being treated unfairly or her conditions in jail
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Speaker 1: are wrong, that's why I scoff. That's why I laugh,
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Speaker 1: and that's why I think it's an absolute joke to
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Speaker 1: even go down that road. Yet, according to an investigation
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Speaker 1: by Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the results of which
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Speaker 1: were released this week, Belahalavic did not interview a single
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Speaker 1: victim to build the case against Epstein. Oh yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: why should she? Why should she? They were all working
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Speaker 1: hand in hand with Epstein's lawyers. I'm convinced of that,
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Speaker 1: and no BS report by the FDL, or Ron DeSantis
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Speaker 1: or any other internal group is going to change my mind. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what happened down in Florida was an absolute travesty. The
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Speaker 1: non prosecution agreements is one of the biggest black eyes
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Speaker 1: in the history of the Justice Department. And I mean
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Speaker 1: that that's not hyperbole. I truly mean that that is
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Speaker 1: one of the biggest black eyes of all time. To
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Speaker 1: let this guy slide out, to let this guy slide
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Speaker 1: through and then continue on with his molesting, his abusing,
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Speaker 1: his raping. Some of that, if not a majority, of
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Speaker 1: that responsibility falls directly at the feet of the federal government,
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Speaker 1: and they still refuse to take responsibility. Those are your politicians, folks,
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Speaker 1: Those are your elected officials. Those are the people that
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Speaker 1: you put up on a pedestal. Just remember when you're
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Speaker 1: doing that, when you're cheering these guys on, they were
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Speaker 1: the same people integral in making the decisions to make
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Speaker 1: it easy on Jeffrey Epstein. Just keep that in mind.
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Speaker 1: She was definitely being cagy. Spencer Covin, a Florida based
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Speaker 1: lawyer who represented some of Epstein's survivors, told me. He
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Speaker 1: said Bellahalavic would not use his clients as witnesses even
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Speaker 1: though a police report from one of them had launched
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Speaker 1: the case. And that's all part of it, right. Look,
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Speaker 1: they have, these prosecutors have a lot of power when
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Speaker 1: it comes to trying cases or not trying cases, a
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Speaker 1: lot of leeway, and she could have easily easily pushed
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Speaker 1: this through and made this a serious, serious situation. But
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Speaker 1: she didn't. She was being pressured by Epstein's high profile lawyers,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure by people in the bureaucracy itself, people
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Speaker 1: from Mukasey's office, people from on high at the FBI
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Speaker 1: doing Mukayzy's bidding, etc. Etc. The fact is, nobody wanted
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Speaker 1: this story to get out, none of them, not the
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Speaker 1: FEDS and not the state. Rakari said in a twenty
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Speaker 1: ten deposition that Belahalavic told him she concluded there were
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Speaker 1: no sort of no victims here. I mean, really, that's
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Speaker 1: what Bella Hallavic concluded. Huh, she's such a great investigator
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Speaker 1: that she came up with that something that flew completely
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Speaker 1: in the face of what the actual investigators, you know,
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Speaker 1: the police came up with. Her job is to prosecute
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Speaker 1: what's going on, all right, not trying to determine if,
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Speaker 1: if the if there was victims here or not. Are
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Speaker 1: you kidding me right now? But no, she didn't do
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Speaker 1: anything wrong. She shouldn't be sanctioned. She shouldn't have her
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Speaker 1: pension taken away, because you know, when you're part of
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Speaker 1: the crew, when you're part of the so called elites infrastructure,
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Speaker 1: and that's what all of these people are, all of
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Speaker 1: these little high their toadies in the bureaucracy that have
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Speaker 1: their hand in the cash bag. Well, this is the
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Speaker 1: result that you get, this is her boss. State attorney
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Speaker 1: Barry Krisher told the FDL a FDL E he believed
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Speaker 1: Epstein's teenage survivors might have engaged in prostitution under Florida law.
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Speaker 1: Epstein's legal team also provided Belahalavic with what the fdl
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Speaker 1: E called derogatory information about the victims, including their MySpace pages,
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Speaker 1: which showed them drinking, smoking marijuana, and kissing boys. Holy hell,
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Speaker 1: stop the press. Teenagers were smoking pot, drinking and kissing boys.
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Speaker 1: That has never occurred in the history of teen agent them.
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Speaker 1: I mean, really, every Look, let's be real now, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure some of you out there might have lived a
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Speaker 1: wholesome life. That's and that's that's fine. I'm guessing the
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Speaker 1: major majority of you out there listening when you were
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Speaker 1: in high school, kissed a couple of boys, smoked a
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Speaker 1: joiner too, had a couple of drinks, and you know,
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Speaker 1: probably we're posting some goofy shit on your MySpace page,
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Speaker 1: all right, or if you're old like me, sticking around
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Speaker 1: on like aol. So to use that against these girls
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Speaker 1: and not just the defense, try and use it, which
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Speaker 1: you would expect, right, that's much expected. But the prosecutors
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Speaker 1: torpedoing their own case for what reason? What motivation do
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Speaker 1: you have? According to the FDLEE and files made public
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Speaker 1: by the State's Attorney's office, Bela Hallavic and Epstein's lawyers
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Speaker 1: began discussing the possibility of a plea deal that would
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Speaker 1: have allowed Epstein to avoid incarceration. And also another thing
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Speaker 1: with the prostitution angle, that was part of the plan
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Speaker 1: for Epstein. He knew the loss, his lawyers knew the laws,
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Speaker 1: and they hipped him to it before he engaged in this.
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Speaker 1: I am convinced of that. So they knew going into
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Speaker 1: it with Florida's laws that if you gave them money,
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Speaker 1: you could use the defense that it was a prostitute
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Speaker 1: and you were just a simple john. And that is
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Speaker 1: exactly the defense Jeffrey Epstein used, and that is exactly
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Speaker 1: the defense that he got off on. When the negotiations
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Speaker 1: fell through, Krisher called a grand jury to decide whether
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Speaker 1: to charge Epstein, a rare move for a sex crime
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Speaker 1: in Florida and one that was seen as a way
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Speaker 1: to bury the case. Bellahalavic, whom a fellow prosecutor in
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Speaker 1: the office described as Chrisher's pawn, then presented just one
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Speaker 1: fourteen year old witness before the jury. Krisher told the
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Speaker 1: fdl E two other victims had been invited to testify,
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Speaker 1: but the cline to Epstein was charged with a single
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Speaker 1: count of solicitation of prostitution in July two. In July
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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, he was out on bail in
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Speaker 1: time for lunch. So think about that and let it
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Speaker 1: settle in for a minute, Okay. Barry Krisher said that
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Speaker 1: two of the other girls wouldn't even come in before
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Speaker 1: the grand jury, which I don't agree. I don't even believe.
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Speaker 1: What about all of the other witnesses, And why take
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Speaker 1: it to a grand jury in the first place. There
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Speaker 1: was ample evidence here for you to do this without
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Speaker 1: bringing it to a grand jury. Most definitely, this was
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Speaker 1: brought before the grand jury so that they can manipulate things,
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Speaker 1: so that they could make it look like these accusers
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Speaker 1: weren't credible. And I'll stick to that. That's my opinion,
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Speaker 1: that's my working hypothesis here. They were all in on it, Krisher, Belahalavic,
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Speaker 1: Villa Fauna in some regard, they all played a part
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Speaker 1: and being in on getting Jeffrey Epstein off. And that's
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Speaker 1: just the truth of it, all right, Those are the facts.
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Speaker 1: That's it. There's no tiptoeing around it. These people, the prosecutors,
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Speaker 1: the state, federal, all of them are complicit in every
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Speaker 1: single crime that Jeffrey Epstein committed after they arrested him
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Speaker 1: and didn't put him in prison forever, point blank period.
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Speaker 1: Digest that according to the FDL investigation, pom Beach Police
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Speaker 1: Chief Michael Ryder believed Belahalavic wanted the case to go away,
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Speaker 1: while Rikari said she was trying to brush the case
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Speaker 1: under the carpet. And now when we look back and
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Speaker 1: Monday month morning, quarterback this shit and look at it
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Speaker 1: with hindsight as a benefit, it's rather obvious that's what
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Speaker 1: they were trying to do. Take it to a grand jury.
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Speaker 1: Bafungul should have never been in front of a grand jury.
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Speaker 1: And furthermore, we all know that grand jury's will indict
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Speaker 1: even a ham sandwich. But the prosecution was limp. They
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Speaker 1: didn't want to do the right thing. They were protecting
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Speaker 1: their asset. Jeffrey Epstein, mister bagman, friend to politicians, friend
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Speaker 1: to the political elite, friend to business magnates. Yeah, that guy.
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Speaker 1: The FDLE investigation found that the State Attorney's office did
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Speaker 1: not break any laws in its handling of the Epstein case.
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Speaker 1: Of course it didn't. Why would the state find themselves
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Speaker 1: culpable and open themselves to a whole bevy of lawsuits
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Speaker 1: and outside scrutiny. When's the last time you've seen one
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Speaker 1: of these states or organizations do that. They have to
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Speaker 1: be forced into doing that. Bellohalavic told investigators she did
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Speaker 1: not pursue more serious charges against Epstein because she had
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Speaker 1: concerns about whether the victims stories would hold up under
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Speaker 1: questioning in a trial. Oh yeah, so that stopped you. Huh,
21:04
Speaker 1: here's an idea, roll the dice. Go for broke, because
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Speaker 1: the shit you slapped him with is a joke and
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Speaker 1: a slap in the face to everybody involved. So you
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Speaker 1: should have went for broke. What you think the federal
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Speaker 1: prosecutors who went after Gotti the third fourth time, we're
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Speaker 1: just like, well, not strong enough case, so we're just
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Speaker 1: gonna let it go. Of course not. They pursued them
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Speaker 1: over and over and over again until they got the conviction,
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Speaker 1: just like these prosecutors should have done from the beginning.
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Speaker 1: But they didn't. They were negligent, and they failed these
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Speaker 1: girls and the whole entire nation. She also said she
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Speaker 1: was limited by state law, including statues of limitation. She
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Speaker 1: previously has called Epstein's behavior reprehensible. Bella Hallavic, who currently
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Speaker 1: works in a private practice, did not respond to a
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Speaker 1: request for Well, I hope she's making big money at
22:02
Speaker 1: that private practice, because if it was up to me,
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Speaker 1: she wouldn't have a pension coming in ever. Again from
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Speaker 1: the state, it's an absolute joke that these people are
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Speaker 1: still getting a pension and all of this other shit.
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Speaker 1: After the grand jury charge, the legal saga was far
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Speaker 1: from over. In the spring of two thousand and six,
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Speaker 1: racarian writer, furious about how the state was still handling
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Speaker 1: the case, met with an FBI agent and Villa Fauna,
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Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old prosecutor from the US Attorney's
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Speaker 1: Office in Miami who was well respected for her handling
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Speaker 1: of child exploitation cases. And that's the going theme, right.
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Speaker 1: All of these people who were involved, Chris sha and
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Speaker 1: Villa Fauna supposedly were super hard on child sex offenders
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Speaker 1: until Jeffrey Epstein rolls around, and then I guess it's
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Speaker 1: just another coincidence, huh. He was let off easy that
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Speaker 1: nobody had any time to really pursue him. All of
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Speaker 1: these hard charging agents of the truth. Give me a break.
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Speaker 1: It's not obvious to everybody out there what was going
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Speaker 1: on that Epstein was playing everybody like a fiddle that
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Speaker 1: his money and his long pockets enabled him to do so.
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Speaker 1: So my question is where is the forensic accounting of
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Speaker 1: all of his money, who received it, when did they
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Speaker 1: receive it, and how much of it did they get?
23:31
Speaker 1: And now it's Geico's motorcycles. And the FBI then worked
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Speaker 1: on the case for more than nine months, identifying new
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Speaker 1: victims and uncovering an interstate trafficking operation, which she laid
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Speaker 1: out in an eighty two page prosecution memo and proposed
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Speaker 1: sixty count indictment. So we went from an eighty two
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Speaker 1: page prosecution memo and a sixty count indictment to one
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Speaker 1: charge of solicitation. Huh yeah, because that's normal, because that
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Speaker 1: shouldn't have everybody who knows about it steaming with the
24:01
Speaker 1: smoke coming out of their ears. How in the hell
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Speaker 1: is this even possible? It was a slam dunk, said
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Speaker 1: Bradley Edwards, the Florida based lawyer who represents Shartouni and
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Speaker 1: Oh as well as wild as victims. I never had
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Speaker 1: a case like that with that much evidence. And I'm
24:27
Speaker 1: just talking about evidence that we have seen as the public,
24:29
Speaker 1: what's available as circumstantial evidence to us. It's a mountain high.
24:35
Speaker 1: I'm certainly not a prosecutor. I'm lucky I can pare
24:38
Speaker 1: my socks, folks, But if I'm building this case, you'd
24:43
Speaker 1: have to think that a competent prosecutor would be all
24:46
Speaker 1: over it. And furthermore, they had a sixty count indictment,
24:51
Speaker 1: interstate sex trafficking laws broken, but no talk about the
24:55
Speaker 1: Man Act. That is exactly what the Man Act was
24:58
Speaker 1: established for. But according to a twenty twenty report from
25:04
Speaker 1: the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility aka the cover
25:10
Speaker 1: r Ass District, which investigated the handling of Epstein's case,
25:14
Speaker 1: Villa Fanna's boss at the time, US Attorney Alexander Acosta,
25:18
Speaker 1: instructed her to strike a plea deal in which Epstein
25:21
Speaker 1: would only serve two years in prison. Again, if you
25:25
Speaker 1: really think that Acosta cook this one up himself, I
25:30
Speaker 1: have waterfront property to sell you in the middle of
25:36
Speaker 1: the desert. It's laughable. Acosta didn't do this on his
25:42
Speaker 1: own in a bubble. He just showed up to work
25:44
Speaker 1: one day and was like, Oh, I'm the biggest swinging
25:46
Speaker 1: be in here. I'm gonna do whatever I want. That
25:49
Speaker 1: is not how it works in the bureaucracy in the BORG.
25:55
Speaker 1: Although Villa Fauna objected internally, she went ahead with negotiating
25:59
Speaker 1: a non prosit secution agreement with Epstein's lawyers and drafting
26:02
Speaker 1: its language. The final deal said Epstein would plead guilty
26:07
Speaker 1: to two state charges procuring a minor for prostitution and
26:11
Speaker 1: felony solicitation, down from the sixty charges that he was
26:15
Speaker 1: originally going to be hit with. Folks, all right, just
26:17
Speaker 1: keep that in mind whenever we talk about Epstein and
26:20
Speaker 1: what he was convicted of, Just remember that originally the
26:24
Speaker 1: federal government was looking at naelling him with sixty charges.
26:29
Speaker 1: With the Tara Paul Mary article over at Politico titled
26:35
Speaker 1: the Women Who Enabled Jeffrey Epstein, this is part six.
26:44
Speaker 1: The Socialites and Professionals. Look, Epstein had so many people
26:50
Speaker 1: in his atmosphere and in his orbit that it's very
26:56
Speaker 1: hard to keep them all in order. Right, Know that
27:00
Speaker 1: there were business professionals, academics, politicians, you name it. Jeffrey
27:08
Speaker 1: Epstein had his fingers in the pie, and a lot
27:13
Speaker 1: of these so called socialites and professionals and business magnates
27:20
Speaker 1: all had an idea, at the very least what Jeffrey
27:24
Speaker 1: Epstein was, but they all faked the funk. They all
27:28
Speaker 1: made pretend that he wasn't an animal, that he wasn't
27:31
Speaker 1: a monster, because they thought that perhaps they could use
27:34
Speaker 1: him as a vehicle to get to whatever goal they
27:38
Speaker 1: had set out for themselves. And for them to act
27:43
Speaker 1: like they had no idea what Epstein was or what
27:46
Speaker 1: Epstein was doing is just straight up trash. What did
27:50
Speaker 1: the former CEO of Reddit tell us that everybody knew
27:54
Speaker 1: about Maxwell? Right, everybody knew about Epstein. These dudes were
27:58
Speaker 1: meeting with him after the fact, They were hanging out
28:02
Speaker 1: with him after the fact, after he had been arrested
28:05
Speaker 1: on that bullshit solicitation charge. And it was all part
28:09
Speaker 1: of the grand scheme, wasn't it to make sure that
28:13
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein could refurbish his image upon release. That was
28:17
Speaker 1: the whole entire crux of the situation. That's what they wanted,
28:21
Speaker 1: That's what they were going for. And Krisher and Villa
28:24
Speaker 1: Fauna and the rest of those so called prosecutors walked
28:29
Speaker 1: right into it and were happy to help. And all
28:35
Speaker 1: of these so called business professionals that helped him refurbish
28:39
Speaker 1: his image afterwards, they're all scumbags. While many of the
28:48
Speaker 1: women around Epstein have said their complicity resulted from a
28:51
Speaker 1: sense of powerlessness, another group, perhaps more inexplicable, were the
28:57
Speaker 1: high society women who helped to legitimize him after his
29:00
Speaker 1: time in jail. And again, you know, from where I'm sitting,
29:04
Speaker 1: there's no excuse for these people who helped him after
29:07
Speaker 1: he was arrested the first time. Now, up until that point,
29:11
Speaker 1: you could try and make the argument you had no idea.
29:14
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna believe you, but at least
29:16
Speaker 1: you can try and make that argument. After the fact,
29:20
Speaker 1: after he had already been arrested, after he was already
29:23
Speaker 1: considered a sex offender. You're gonna go over to his
29:26
Speaker 1: house and you're gonna talk numbers with him. You're gonna
29:29
Speaker 1: try and chop it up and get some donations for
29:32
Speaker 1: your favorite charity from a sex offender. There's nobody else
29:35
Speaker 1: better out there to go and get some money from. Huh. Again,
29:40
Speaker 1: they don't care, folks. Look, these kind of people that
29:42
Speaker 1: we're talking about, the socialites and professionals, they only care
29:46
Speaker 1: about one thing, how many zeros are in your bank account.
29:51
Speaker 1: And on top of that, right paired with it, what
29:54
Speaker 1: you can do for them professionally or personally. That's all
30:00
Speaker 1: they care about. Not that you're a child sex offender,
30:03
Speaker 1: not that you abused people, not that you're a just
30:05
Speaker 1: a general all around scumbag. No, that doesn't matter, because
30:09
Speaker 1: if you have the money, and you have the reach,
30:11
Speaker 1: and you have the power, you most certainly are accepted
30:15
Speaker 1: amongst the so called elite. With their help, Epstein waltzed
30:22
Speaker 1: back onto exclusive guest lists and into private parties, sending
30:26
Speaker 1: a signal to the elite that he was not a pariah.
30:30
Speaker 1: Men played this role too, but by the time Epstein
30:33
Speaker 1: was known to have targeted girls, his connections with influential
30:37
Speaker 1: women took on special significance. And of course, again, nobody
30:44
Speaker 1: really looks at a situation like this and thinks, you know,
30:47
Speaker 1: the first thing that pops in their head is, oh, man,
30:50
Speaker 1: there's definitely some women involved here. Up until this case,
30:54
Speaker 1: when I started really digging into you know, Jeffrey Epstein
30:58
Speaker 1: and his the core, for his lieuten and everybody surrounding him,
31:02
Speaker 1: I had no idea the role that women played in
31:04
Speaker 1: operations like this. Then you take a look at someplace
31:07
Speaker 1: like Nexium and you see it again. So it just
31:12
Speaker 1: cements my whole entire outlook that everybody's a great character, right,
31:19
Speaker 1: everybody's capable of great evil, everybody's capable of great good.
31:24
Speaker 1: Well not everybody, I guess, but you know what I mean.
31:27
Speaker 1: The vast majority of us are capable of great evil. Look,
31:31
Speaker 1: if your family was being threatened, and you know the
31:36
Speaker 1: only way to help your family was to become a
31:39
Speaker 1: savage to protect them, you would become a savage to
31:42
Speaker 1: protect them. Most people would. And that's why you see
31:45
Speaker 1: atrocities committed in war and all of that. Jazz. People
31:52
Speaker 1: are grey characters. And one thing that has certainly been
31:58
Speaker 1: at the forefront of this Epstein case is there are
32:02
Speaker 1: no good guys, right, Certainly not in the prosecution, certainly
32:06
Speaker 1: not anywhere near Epstein. The only people I would say
32:10
Speaker 1: are could be considered even good guys in this whole
32:13
Speaker 1: entire ordeal are a couple of the lawyers defending these girls.
32:17
Speaker 1: Besides that, this is just an absolute shit show filled
32:21
Speaker 1: with bad, horrible actors. On top of bad horrible actors,
32:32
Speaker 1: one of Epstein's longtime defenders was his former girlfriend of
32:36
Speaker 1: eleven years, Eva Anderson Dubin, a doctor, former Miss Sweden
32:41
Speaker 1: and now the wife of the billionaire financier and accused
32:45
Speaker 1: rapist Glenn Dubin. Now, anyone who's followed this case knows
32:51
Speaker 1: that Eva Anderson, Dubin and Glenn Dubin were super close
32:57
Speaker 1: to Epstein, super close to Epstein. Eva and Epstein dated previously,
33:05
Speaker 1: as stated here, of eleven years they dated, and they
33:09
Speaker 1: remained close even after Eva Dubin was married to Glenn. They,
33:14
Speaker 1: Jeffrey and her remained very close, so close in fact,
33:18
Speaker 1: that after Jeffrey Epstein was released from prison directly at
33:21
Speaker 1: well you shouldn't even call it prison from his little
33:23
Speaker 1: holidays stay at the Stockade. Well, where do you think
33:27
Speaker 1: he went and spent Thanksgiving dinner? Oh, that's right over
33:30
Speaker 1: at the Anderson's. Imagine having little kids and inviting a
33:34
Speaker 1: sex offender over to your house for Thanksgiving dinner. That's
33:38
Speaker 1: a good idea, fantastic idea. I mean, wow, talk about
33:45
Speaker 1: parent of the Year award, right, and it just goes
33:49
Speaker 1: to show you once again, all the money in the world,
33:52
Speaker 1: all the billions in the world, can't fix stupid and seven.
34:01
Speaker 1: While Epstein's non prosecution agreement was being negotiated, his legal
34:05
Speaker 1: team sent the Palm Beach State Attorney's office a laudatory
34:09
Speaker 1: testimonial from Eva Dubin. I could not ask for a
34:12
Speaker 1: better friend or godfather to my children, she wrote, Hey,
34:15
Speaker 1: hang on a minute while I throw up real quick.
34:18
Speaker 1: You imagine writing this kind of letter for a sex offender.
34:22
Speaker 1: I can't imagine a better friend or a godfather to
34:27
Speaker 1: my children. I mean wow. And furthermore, imagine if this
34:33
Speaker 1: dude was your godfather. Talk about wanting to scrub some history, right,
34:39
Speaker 1: make sure you scrub that out of the annals of history.
34:45
Speaker 1: On what planet does this lady think it's a good idea,
34:50
Speaker 1: This mother of children of daughters think it's a good
34:53
Speaker 1: idea to send some glowing letter to the prosecutors to
34:57
Speaker 1: try and get Jeffrey Epstein off. Furthermore, how is this
35:02
Speaker 1: not more of a story? How is this not blasted
35:05
Speaker 1: all over the front page of the news? Oh? I
35:09
Speaker 1: know why? Because it's not an issue that'll divide, right,
35:11
Speaker 1: So if it's not an issue that'll divide us into tribes.
35:14
Speaker 1: And they tried and stay away from that because that
35:17
Speaker 1: doesn't sell. The truth doesn't sell. And the truth, folks,
35:23
Speaker 1: is Glenn and Eva Dubin. They got some answering to do,
35:29
Speaker 1: and the fact that they have not been hounded by journalists.
35:33
Speaker 1: The fact that they have not been hounded by the media,
35:36
Speaker 1: it just goes to show you once again that the
35:40
Speaker 1: elite are protected by the handful of media outlets that
35:45
Speaker 1: run the whole entire charade. Two years later, after Epstein's
35:52
Speaker 1: guilty plea, she wrote an email to Epstein's probation officer
35:56
Speaker 1: saying she was aware of Epstein's status as a registered
35:59
Speaker 1: sex offender, but that she was one hundred percent comfortable
36:02
Speaker 1: having him around her children. I mean, really, the Mother
36:06
Speaker 1: of the Year award goes too. It's absolutely crazy. Can
36:12
Speaker 1: you imagine if this was just a regular person saying this,
36:14
Speaker 1: how they'd be just absolutely destroyed on TV for being
36:18
Speaker 1: a terrible mother a terrible father. But since it's billionaire
36:21
Speaker 1: Glenn Dubin and his wife, it's all good. They're just eccentric.
36:25
Speaker 1: They live a different way than we do. I don't
36:30
Speaker 1: have any kids, folks, right, but pretty sure that if
36:33
Speaker 1: I had children, no sex offenders are coming over to
36:37
Speaker 1: have Thanksgiving dinner. What planet is that okay on? And
36:43
Speaker 1: what reality is that okay in? Because normal people, well
36:49
Speaker 1: normal people don't want sex offenders like Jeffrey Epstein around
36:52
Speaker 1: their children. They certainly don't want Jeffrey Epstein to be
36:56
Speaker 1: the godfather of their children, and normal people don't want
37:01
Speaker 1: their children calling a guy like that uncle Jeffy. Later
37:07
Speaker 1: in the month, according to Business Insider, Epstein spent his
37:10
Speaker 1: first Thanksgiving after his release at the Duban's Palm Beach home. Boy,
37:15
Speaker 1: I'm sure that was just a fantastic ordeal. Hey, uncle Jeffy,
37:20
Speaker 1: can you pass me a turkey leg? You imagine the
37:25
Speaker 1: conversation around that table, what sort of sordid, disgustingness was occurring?
37:31
Speaker 1: And then, furthermore, what kind of clown is this Glenn Dubin?
37:36
Speaker 1: So you got your wife's ex boyfriend hanging out for
37:38
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner sitting there at the table. Okay, cuckold, You
37:43
Speaker 1: mean to tell me that Jeffrey Epstein and Eva Dubin
37:47
Speaker 1: had no sort of relationship? Huh yeah, okay, sure, you
37:52
Speaker 1: know guys like Glenn Dubin absolute cucks. Oh yeah, sure, Hony,
37:56
Speaker 1: have your ex boyfriend of eleven years come on over
37:58
Speaker 1: to dinner. Oh, we could be the godfather to our children.
38:04
Speaker 1: How do you know Glenn Dubin isn't Italian. Well, that
38:07
Speaker 1: tells you it, right, there are my friends because of that.
38:10
Speaker 1: Shit certainly wouldn't be happening around my table. A sex offender,
38:17
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend around my kids. Yeah, that's gonna play out well.
38:24
Speaker 1: Witnesses have suggested in court that Eva Dubin was familiar
38:27
Speaker 1: with Epstein's behavior. Roberts wrote in her draft memoir that
38:31
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, Epstein had ordered her to
38:34
Speaker 1: give Duban a massage that included rubbing her breasts, which
38:39
Speaker 1: were stored from pregnancy at the Breakers, a palm beach resort.
38:43
Speaker 1: Imagine that's how these people feel. That's how these people
38:46
Speaker 1: think about you. Oh you're nothing to me, You're just chattle.
38:50
Speaker 1: Come over here and rub so and so's breasts because
38:54
Speaker 1: I told you, Oh, it doesn't matter that you're an
38:55
Speaker 1: underage kid or anything like that. And then someone like
38:59
Speaker 1: Eva do completely cool with it. Oh yeah, come do that.
39:05
Speaker 1: These people are detached from reality, and they truly believe
39:10
Speaker 1: that there is a set of rules for them and
39:12
Speaker 1: a set of rules for everybody else. And unfortunately they've
39:16
Speaker 1: gone away with it for so long there's been no repercussions.
39:19
Speaker 1: Nobody goes to jail nobody gets in trouble, so they
39:23
Speaker 1: keep on doing it over and over and over again.
39:30
Speaker 1: In a twenty sixteen deposition, the Dubin's butler, Ronaldo Rizzo,
39:35
Speaker 1: recalled speaking to a distraught and quivering fifteen year old
39:39
Speaker 1: Swedish girl in the couple's kitchen in two thousand and five.
39:44
Speaker 1: According to Rizzo, the teenager claimed to be Epstein's assistant
39:48
Speaker 1: and describe being pressured by Epstein's female associates to have
39:52
Speaker 1: sex on his private island. She did not specify with whom,
39:56
Speaker 1: So we know that those assistants, Sarah Kellen Vickers and
39:59
Speaker 1: the rest of them were integral in that. Of course
40:03
Speaker 1: they were pressuring this girl. That was part of the
40:05
Speaker 1: grooming process, part of the normalization of it all. And
40:09
Speaker 1: then this poor girl fifteen years old shows up in
40:13
Speaker 1: Glenn and Eva Dubin's kitchen, distraught, crying and talking to
40:18
Speaker 1: Ronaldo Rizzo about all of this shit that occurred. Now.
40:23
Speaker 1: I don't know how mister Rizzo here had the restraint
40:26
Speaker 1: that he did, but I would have confronted the Dubins
40:30
Speaker 1: if I was this butler guy. I mean, I don't care.
40:32
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it's just money and
40:34
Speaker 1: a job. Right, you can get a new job, you
40:36
Speaker 1: can get you make more money, plenty of it out there.
40:40
Speaker 1: But when it comes to your integrity, when it comes
40:43
Speaker 1: to what's inside and how you can live with yourself,
40:46
Speaker 1: I don't know how people just ignore stuff like this.
40:50
Speaker 1: If anyone came crying to me in some kitchen of
40:53
Speaker 1: an employer and was telling me about all of this crazy,
40:56
Speaker 1: wild shit, first of all, that employer would be confronted.
41:00
Speaker 1: Second of all, the police would be called. Third of all,
41:03
Speaker 1: I would be going nowhere until the police arrived. And
41:07
Speaker 1: now that's saying a lot, because I don't want to
41:10
Speaker 1: have any interactions with the police folks, all right, The
41:12
Speaker 1: last thing I want to do is speak to the
41:14
Speaker 1: police in any sort of capacity. But when it comes
41:19
Speaker 1: to something like this, I mean, you got a little
41:22
Speaker 1: girl crying in the kitchen about the behavior of your
41:27
Speaker 1: employer and your employer's friends, you gotta do something about it.
41:32
Speaker 1: You can't just sit there and then talk about it
41:34
Speaker 1: after the fact like it's you know, like it affected you.
41:38
Speaker 1: People gotta have some backbone in life. People got to
41:40
Speaker 1: know when it's time to stand up to other people
41:42
Speaker 1: like this and say no way, this isn't gonna occur.
41:45
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not gonna be part of this. And
41:51
Speaker 1: nobody did that throughout this whole Epstein thing. Did anybody
41:54
Speaker 1: ever get up at one of these dinners or one
41:57
Speaker 1: of these events where he was being crude and rude
41:59
Speaker 1: in front of their and smacked this mother effort in
42:02
Speaker 1: the teeth certainly never been reported. That's what he needed. Though.
42:08
Speaker 1: One thing that this dude never got in his life,
42:10
Speaker 1: obviously was a good quality life lesson. And you need those, Okay,
42:16
Speaker 1: you need those growing up. Got a big mouth, somebody's
42:20
Speaker 1: gonna shut it for you eventually. But Jeffrey Epstein seems
42:23
Speaker 1: to never have run into somebody like that. It's very unfortunate.
42:30
Speaker 1: Rizzo testified that Eva Dubin walked into the kitchen after
42:34
Speaker 1: the story had been told and said the teenager would
42:36
Speaker 1: be working for the Dubans as a nanny, a fifteen
42:39
Speaker 1: year old nanny. Huh, fifteen and a half year old nanny.
42:43
Speaker 1: Now I understand maybe like a fifteen and a half
42:46
Speaker 1: year old neighbor babysitting the kid for a night, but
42:49
Speaker 1: a nanny, wouldn't you want to go out and get
42:52
Speaker 1: a real nanny or an au pair, somebody who has
42:56
Speaker 1: a resume, somebody who perhaps speaks a couple of languages,
43:00
Speaker 1: is to help your child transition and with schoolwork and
43:03
Speaker 1: all of that stuff. Isn't that what you would be
43:05
Speaker 1: looking for A fifteen and a half year old girl, Huh?
43:09
Speaker 1: Pretty gross when you look at it as a whole
43:11
Speaker 1: here and not in a vacuum. When you look at
43:14
Speaker 1: it as people who are wearing glasses that see what
43:19
Speaker 1: the Epstein folks are up to, it becomes a very disturbing,
43:24
Speaker 1: disturbing situation. A fifteen and a half year old nanny. Huh, Oh,
43:28
Speaker 1: what's next? Let me go get I'm gonna go get myself.
43:30
Speaker 1: A nine year old heart surgeon finally said, the Dubans
43:35
Speaker 1: were horrified by any complete were horrified by and completely
43:40
Speaker 1: unaware of Jeffrey Epstein's unspeakable conduct. They categorically deny the
43:45
Speaker 1: allegations by Roberts and Rizzo and have evidence disproving them.
43:50
Speaker 1: The spokesperson showed Politico these materials over zoom, but did
43:54
Speaker 1: not share a copy or respond to additional questions. Oh yeah,
43:58
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a ton of evidence out there. I'm
44:00
Speaker 1: sure you guys are swimming in the evidence Glenn and
44:04
Speaker 1: Eva Dubin so much so that that's why Glenn stepped
44:07
Speaker 1: back from his business. Huh. Don't think anyone's forgotten you folks,
44:11
Speaker 1: because we have not, and how authorities have not brought
44:16
Speaker 1: you in for questioning yet. It should be on Unsolved
44:19
Speaker 1: Mysteries with Robert Stack. Hollywood party planner Peggy Siegel assisted
44:28
Speaker 1: Epstein's social reintegration by including him on guest list for
44:32
Speaker 1: exclusive parties. Considered a social power broker in New York
44:36
Speaker 1: and Los Angeles, Siegel allowed Epstein to attend a film
44:40
Speaker 1: screening she organized in Southampton in twenty ten, and when
44:46
Speaker 1: she was questioned about it, right, Peggy Segel, she used
44:49
Speaker 1: the whole excuse, Oh, I had no idea what Jeffrey
44:52
Speaker 1: Epstein was. No blah blah blah blah blah, poor me.
44:56
Speaker 1: My business is suffering, my career is suffering. Nobody cares.
45:01
Speaker 1: Nobody cares. Okay, if you were helping to refurbish Jeffrey
45:06
Speaker 1: Epstein's image, if you were bringing him to parties and
45:10
Speaker 1: paling around with them, and you know, ah shucks in
45:14
Speaker 1: with them, guess what. Nobody cares. No empathy for you.
45:21
Speaker 1: There is no excuse for people like this, these high
45:25
Speaker 1: rollers in social society, the so called elite, to be
45:28
Speaker 1: paling around with Jeffrey Epstein, Not unless they're all fellow travelers.
45:35
Speaker 1: The event, also attended by Rudy Giuliani, Steve Mnuchin, Will Barross,
45:40
Speaker 1: and others, took place just months after Epstein had gotten
45:44
Speaker 1: out of prison. Imagine that, huh. A bunch of paragons
45:47
Speaker 1: of society. Good old Steve Mnuchin, scumbag ass who also
45:51
Speaker 1: had ties to Jean lu Brunell. Mind you Will Barross,
45:55
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, quality individual and Rudy Giuliani huh, another just
46:00
Speaker 1: pillar of the community. There's never been any taint on
46:03
Speaker 1: any of these people. Come on, folks, But if you
46:08
Speaker 1: ask any of these people, they'll give you the same story. Oh,
46:10
Speaker 1: we had no idea Jeffrey Epstein was even at this party.
46:13
Speaker 1: We don't know who we eat. It's all the same story,
46:15
Speaker 1: all the time, and frankly, I'm just tired of it
46:18
Speaker 1: from all of them. In twenty and eleven, Siegel threw
46:24
Speaker 1: a dinner party at Epstein's townhouse for Prince Andrew that
46:27
Speaker 1: also included Katie Kirk, George Stepanopolis, and his clogs and
46:32
Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler. Now recently, maybe not recently, month ago, a
46:37
Speaker 1: few months ago, the Chelsea Handler situation came back to
46:41
Speaker 1: the forefront when she was asked about, you know, the
46:44
Speaker 1: Epstein situation. But nobody dug deeper, Right, what are you
46:47
Speaker 1: doing there? Why are you even at Epstein's? Oh, I
46:50
Speaker 1: know you're Katie Kork's plus one? Okay, So what's Katie
46:54
Speaker 1: Kirk doing there? What is she? How does she know
46:56
Speaker 1: Epstein well enough to get a plus one at his townhouse?
47:00
Speaker 1: And then there's good old Georgie Stepanopolis. Huh, mister Ivory
47:04
Speaker 1: Tower himself, mister, look down at you and tell you
47:08
Speaker 1: how horrible of a human being you are. But meanwhile,
47:12
Speaker 1: this dude's breaking bread with Jeffrey Epstein, This dude's rubbing
47:16
Speaker 1: elbows with a bunch of molesters. But you're the bad person.
47:20
Speaker 1: You're horrible because you don't share his opinion on whatever
47:23
Speaker 1: the topic is. These hypocrites, these scumbags, and the legacy media.
47:31
Speaker 1: It is an absolute joke to watch them scramble and
47:36
Speaker 1: gaslight and think that they still have control of the narrative. Besides,
47:41
Speaker 1: a small segment of the population who really even tunes
47:45
Speaker 1: into these people anymore. Siegel previously has said that she
47:52
Speaker 1: was not aware Epstein had been accused of abusing miners.
47:55
Speaker 1: After his sentencing, Epstein tried to downplay his charges publicly.
48:00
Speaker 1: A friend of Seagull's, speaking on her behalf, told Politico
48:03
Speaker 1: that Epstein would call Siegel from time to time to
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Speaker 1: request party invitations, but she did not seek him out.
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Speaker 1: The friend also said Epstein had attended the Southampton party
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Speaker 1: as a guest of a guest. Oh, as a guest
48:16
Speaker 1: of which guests? Then can we know who the plus
48:19
Speaker 1: one was? Or is that secret state information that nobody's
48:24
Speaker 1: going to be made aware of? You know, it's like
48:27
Speaker 1: they throw these things out there. Oh, he was a
48:29
Speaker 1: guest of one, he was a guest of another guest. Okay,
48:32
Speaker 1: what does that even mean? So who was the other guest?
48:37
Speaker 1: But they don't, you know, they don't want to expand
48:42
Speaker 1: they don't want to expound on that, right because the
48:45
Speaker 1: narrative is they just want to throw a little bit
48:47
Speaker 1: out there to make it murky, so that there's enough
48:50
Speaker 1: to make it seem like, oh, well, maybe they didn't know.
48:53
Speaker 1: That's what they're trying to do. Meanwhile, nobody is buying
48:57
Speaker 1: it anymore. Nobody's buying the nar and nobody's buying the
49:01
Speaker 1: shit that they're shoveling. Another way Epstein saw to rehabilitate
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Speaker 1: himself after his jail time was through philanthropy, particularly in
49:11
Speaker 1: the sciences, where seemingly innocuous or peripheral contacts helped to
49:17
Speaker 1: restore his social credibility. We all know that the academics
49:21
Speaker 1: and academia in general played a huge role in Jeffrey
49:25
Speaker 1: Epstein refurbishing his image. Having a office at Harvard, connections
49:32
Speaker 1: to MIT, connections to Arizona State University, you name it,
49:37
Speaker 1: and this guy had connections to these top academics, top scientists,
49:43
Speaker 1: and they were all in his pocket. They were all
49:45
Speaker 1: on the doll right. He was the golden goose. In
49:51
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, he had hired Melanie Walker, a recent
49:54
Speaker 1: medical school graduate who is now a neurological surgeon, as
49:58
Speaker 1: a part time scientific sultan. That year, Epstein also purchased
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Speaker 1: his island Little Saint Jeff's, where he planned to build
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Speaker 1: a research center. Years later, Walker worked for the Bill
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Speaker 1: and Melinda Gates Foundation, where she was a mutual connection
50:13
Speaker 1: of Gates and Epstein. And also which is interesting. Remember,
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Speaker 1: Melanie Walker was also allegedly the girl at Zoro Ranch
50:23
Speaker 1: with Prince Andrew who was there keeping Prince Andrew happy
50:27
Speaker 1: and keeping him company. Supposedly, she asked the staff at
50:30
Speaker 1: Zoro Ranch if they had some sort of tea that
50:33
Speaker 1: would help with Prince uh Andrew's you know, little Willie
50:38
Speaker 1: if you get my drift. So Melanie Walker has been
50:42
Speaker 1: definitely in the mix in the middle of it. And
50:45
Speaker 1: another tie that binds Epstein and Bill Gates. So again, folks,
50:51
Speaker 1: the web is vast. During that time. In twenty eleven,
50:58
Speaker 1: Epstein met with Bill Gates, the co founder of Microsoft,
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Speaker 1: and emailed Walker and another colleague afterwards to offer his impressions.
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Speaker 1: According to two sources familiar with the exchange, Gates and
51:10
Speaker 1: Epstein met numerous times thereafter to talk about philanthropy. According
51:15
Speaker 1: to The New York Times. Ask to comment, a Gates
51:18
Speaker 1: spokesperson said the multiple high profile people had suggested Gates
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Speaker 1: meet with Epstein, and that Gates regrets ever having done so.
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Speaker 1: A spokesperson for Walker declined to comment. Yeah, you're not
51:31
Speaker 1: gonna get any comment out of this. Melanie Walker, lady,
51:34
Speaker 1: she knows better. She's not gonna open herself up to
51:38
Speaker 1: even more. But the FBI should speak with her as well. Again, folks,
51:42
Speaker 1: if this was a Rico case like it should be,
51:45
Speaker 1: all of these people would be scooped up with predit kits.
51:50
Speaker 1: But the government likes to play touch ass, don't they.
51:53
Speaker 1: They like to mess around when it comes to these
51:55
Speaker 1: rich people poor people. Forget about it. You're going to
51:58
Speaker 1: prison forever, poor folk. Hey to tell you. Hate to
52:01
Speaker 1: be the bearer of bad news, but if you're poor
52:04
Speaker 1: in this country and you're facing a federal case, you
52:07
Speaker 1: might as well just take the plea deal. If you're rich,
52:10
Speaker 1: on the other hand, well you can play all these
52:13
Speaker 1: games that we see Maxwell playing, that we saw Epstein play,
52:17
Speaker 1: and that the rest of them play. But if you
52:22
Speaker 1: were born with the worst possible sin you could possibly have,
52:26
Speaker 1: according to these so called elites, and that's being poor,
52:30
Speaker 1: well you have no chance. My friend, former Apple and
52:36
Speaker 1: Microsoft executive Linda stone knew Epstein at least as far
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Speaker 1: back as the mid nineties, when he hosted dinners for
52:43
Speaker 1: scientists at his New York home. In early two thousands,
52:47
Speaker 1: she worked with him to organize a scientific symposium in
52:51
Speaker 1: the US Virgin Islands. Years later, Stone introduced Epstein to
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Speaker 1: Joy Eto, then the director of MIT's Media Lab, and
52:59
Speaker 1: MITS and Investigation later found while Stone, Edo and Epstein
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Speaker 1: were attending a TED conference in California in twenty thirteen,
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Speaker 1: Stone wrote in an email with the subject line jeff
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Speaker 1: plus joy and one line of body text intro. Itto
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Speaker 1: told MIT's investigators that he and Epstein then met in
53:19
Speaker 1: a hallway at the conference. So these TED talks too,
53:24
Speaker 1: are another thing that cracked me up. People act like
53:27
Speaker 1: these TED talks are like this great thing of these
53:30
Speaker 1: great minds of science. Yeah right, they're all Jeffrey Epstein's
53:34
Speaker 1: friends giving these TED talks all the time. So you
53:36
Speaker 1: can miss me with that bullshit too. Now. I know
53:39
Speaker 1: a lot of those TED talks are interesting, no doubt
53:41
Speaker 1: about it. But all of these scientists and these academics
53:45
Speaker 1: running around that were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein that
53:49
Speaker 1: still think that people are buying their bs. It's almost
53:54
Speaker 1: laughable at this point. The next month, when Edo faced
54:03
Speaker 1: internal pushback about the Media Lab accepting money from Epstein,
54:06
Speaker 1: Eto wrote to one colleague, Epstein has a tainted past,
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Speaker 1: but Linda assures me that he's awesome, Oh, well, in
54:13
Speaker 1: that case, must be a great guy. Want you to
54:16
Speaker 1: meet my friend John Wayne Gacy has a tainted past,
54:20
Speaker 1: but I assure you he's a great guy. What sort
54:24
Speaker 1: of wild ass world, broken simulation are we living in?
54:31
Speaker 1: He later emailed Stone for her advice about how to
54:34
Speaker 1: handle the pushback. Her response, as quoted in the MIT investigation,
54:39
Speaker 1: noted that Epstein had given money to Harvard and to
54:42
Speaker 1: science and technology causes good to show that list she
54:45
Speaker 1: wrote between twenty and thirteen. In twenty seventeen, Epstein donated
54:50
Speaker 1: five hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to Media Lab,
54:53
Speaker 1: according to MIT. In twenty nineteen, Itto apologized for accepting
54:59
Speaker 1: the donations and resigned. Stone declined to comment. So basically,
55:05
Speaker 1: what she's saying is to get ahead of all of this,
55:10
Speaker 1: just point out all of the other scumbags that took
55:12
Speaker 1: money from him. That's like being caught up by the
55:16
Speaker 1: FEDS and you're like a drug dealer and you start
55:18
Speaker 1: snitching on your rivals. Oh, dude over at the in
55:22
Speaker 1: the plaza over in TJ. This is where you can
55:24
Speaker 1: find him, and this dude over here. I mean, really,
55:29
Speaker 1: here's an idea. Don't accept money from a scumbag, and
55:32
Speaker 1: you won't have to come up with excuses to massage it.
55:39
Speaker 1: Members of the media, too, played a role in softening
55:42
Speaker 1: Epstein's image. In two thousand and three, journalist Vicky Ward
55:46
Speaker 1: barf bag Please, planned to report in Vanity Fair that
55:50
Speaker 1: Epstein had sexually assaulted Maria Farmer, the woman who worked
55:54
Speaker 1: as a greeter for Epstein along with her sister Annie.
55:57
Speaker 1: And of course she didn't completely left Maria out to dry,
56:01
Speaker 1: left or swinging in the wind, just like another piece
56:05
Speaker 1: of garbage from the so called elite. That's how they
56:09
Speaker 1: that's how they act. Right. You're not part of the crew.
56:11
Speaker 1: They don't care about you. You can't do anything for them. Epstein,
56:17
Speaker 1: on the other hand, well he can help them move
56:19
Speaker 1: further in their career. And that's it right there in
56:24
Speaker 1: black and white. It's not any harder than that, folks.
56:26
Speaker 1: That's what it is. These people sacrifice their integrity in
56:30
Speaker 1: hopes of upward mobility. The magazine's editor, Graydon Carter, facing
56:38
Speaker 1: pressure from Epstein, decided against publishing the Farmer's account. He
56:42
Speaker 1: later said Ward lacks sufficient sourcing. The resulting article, titled
56:47
Speaker 1: The Talent in Mister Epstein, focused instead on Westein Webstein,
56:51
Speaker 1: on Epstein's lavish lifestyle and mysterious wealth. Ward publicly has
56:56
Speaker 1: blamed Carter for the emission, but eight years after the
56:59
Speaker 1: articles publication, she wrote a soft focus blog post about
57:03
Speaker 1: Maxwell and Epstein that has gotten less attention. And look,
57:07
Speaker 1: Vicky Ward is a scumbag, point blank period. That's certainly
57:10
Speaker 1: my opinion. Another grifter, another person who's looking to accelerate
57:17
Speaker 1: her career, another person who didn't care about the real
57:20
Speaker 1: story here. And as a journalist, if your editor kills
57:23
Speaker 1: a story like that, you don't pull the end around
57:26
Speaker 1: on him and go somewhere else. You don't think somebody
57:29
Speaker 1: else would pick that piece up, So do as far
57:33
Speaker 1: as you want to blame the editor, that's fine. He
57:35
Speaker 1: shares some of the blame, right, But it comes down
57:37
Speaker 1: to Vicky Ward not having the courage having a spaghetti
57:41
Speaker 1: noodle as a spine. In the post, which has been
57:47
Speaker 1: taken down but it's still findable online. Ward described not
57:51
Speaker 1: knowing quite whom to believe while reporting the article in
57:55
Speaker 1: two thousand and three and offered an updated assessment of
57:58
Speaker 1: Maxwell and Epstein, who she kept a running into at
58:01
Speaker 1: parties in the years after the story ran Oh yeah,
58:04
Speaker 1: running into Let's just be honest and Frank, you were
58:07
Speaker 1: friendly with them. You and Maxwell were buddies, so you
58:11
Speaker 1: were trying to help refurbish her image. Vicky Ward, and
58:14
Speaker 1: the fact that you're still working and running around like
58:17
Speaker 1: you're some kind of great journalist is a joke, but
58:21
Speaker 1: it doesn't shock me. Your whole industry journalism and I
58:26
Speaker 1: say that with quotes, folks, air quotes is a dumpster
58:29
Speaker 1: fire full of cowards and snakes. Maxwell Ward wrote was
58:43
Speaker 1: always the most interesting, the most vivacious, the most unusual
58:47
Speaker 1: person in any room, and the biggest scumbag unless Epstein
58:50
Speaker 1: was in the room, right. Can't leave that out, Vicky Ward,
58:53
Speaker 1: with all of your glowing words for her, I've spent
58:57
Speaker 1: hours talking to her about the Third World at a
58:59
Speaker 1: ball until two am. She is as passionate as she
59:03
Speaker 1: is knowledgeable. She is curious, Oh yeah, passionate and knowledgeable.
59:07
Speaker 1: She's passionate about going to the Third world to find
59:09
Speaker 1: some girls to bring for Epstein to abuse. Probably, what
59:12
Speaker 1: do you mean passionate about what? Not fixing anything, not
59:16
Speaker 1: riding to anyone's rescue on her horse, dressed in white armor.
59:22
Speaker 1: This is a lady that only knows destruction and all
59:25
Speaker 1: of this other bullshit. Her philanthropy and her works with
59:29
Speaker 1: Tera Mal were all recover for her disgusting behavior. That
59:34
Speaker 1: is my opinion. As for Epstein, who was a registered
59:39
Speaker 1: sex offender at the time, Ward referred to the only
59:42
Speaker 1: felony as sexual peccadillos. She openly subscribed to the idea
59:48
Speaker 1: that Epstein's wealth had substained him for years and would
59:51
Speaker 1: continue to in this city. Money makes up for all
59:55
Speaker 1: sorts of blemishes. Well, that's about the only real thing
59:58
Speaker 1: she said, right, the only truth thing she said, and
1:00:01
Speaker 1: calling what Epstein did sexual peccadillos, that's what it was,
1:00:08
Speaker 1: to abuse all of them little girls, that's what you
1:00:10
Speaker 1: think that is, Vicky Wart. Again, how is this lady
1:00:13
Speaker 1: writing for any of these publications and the ones that
1:00:19
Speaker 1: she is writing for. You should really take note of
1:00:22
Speaker 1: that and realize the sort of people that those companies employ.
1:00:27
Speaker 1: It really should reflect on them, ask the comment. War
1:00:34
Speaker 1: told Politico that the blog post has my byline, but
1:00:38
Speaker 1: was commissioned and edited and published by Vanity Fair. She's
1:00:41
Speaker 1: such a liar, she just blames everybody else. Vicky Ward,
1:00:44
Speaker 1: I'm calling you a liar. That's what I think. My
1:00:46
Speaker 1: opinion is, you're a liar, You're a snake, and you
1:00:49
Speaker 1: shouldn't make one dollar off of this case. Any money
1:00:53
Speaker 1: you make should be donated. If she would have wrote
1:00:58
Speaker 1: the real truth about Epstein back then, how much of
1:01:02
Speaker 1: this could have been stopped. So how is it that
1:01:04
Speaker 1: she still has a job. Go to your job today
1:01:06
Speaker 1: and f up, folks, royally, go screw up real bad
1:01:09
Speaker 1: and see if you still have a job waiting for
1:01:11
Speaker 1: you tomorrow. It also appeared on Ward's personal website, which
1:01:20
Speaker 1: she said automatically pulled the text from Vanity. Fair Ward
1:01:24
Speaker 1: said she did not write or approve of the phrase
1:01:27
Speaker 1: sexual peccadillos. Never her right, It's always the editor, it's
1:01:30
Speaker 1: always Graydon Carter, It's always somebody else. Guess what, Vicky Ward,
1:01:35
Speaker 1: it's you. Okay, take a good, long, hard look in
1:01:38
Speaker 1: the mirror and understand that you are part of the
1:01:42
Speaker 1: problem and not part of the solution. The fact that I,
1:01:47
Speaker 1: an untrained knucklehead, has to sit here and call you
1:01:50
Speaker 1: out should tell the story. It's a joke that these
1:01:57
Speaker 1: so called intelligent, college trained journalists still have jobs. As
1:02:08
Speaker 1: to clarify, she said, she would explain further in my
1:02:11
Speaker 1: own narrative in an upcoming podcast and documentary. Oh, of course,
1:02:16
Speaker 1: of course, why wouldn't she create a podcast and a
1:02:19
Speaker 1: new documentary to get rich off of this shit? It
1:02:22
Speaker 1: is all absurd from the bottom up. All of these
1:02:25
Speaker 1: people rolling in the cash, raking it in, swimming around
1:02:29
Speaker 1: in it like Scrooge McDuck as the survivors are still
1:02:32
Speaker 1: getting hosed by the compensation fund or by Epstein's estate.
1:02:37
Speaker 1: Vicky Ward, on the other hand, she's eatinges cart go
1:02:40
Speaker 1: in caviar and living that high life. I understand the
1:02:45
Speaker 1: optics of subsequent events, and I absolutely understand why Maria
1:02:50
Speaker 1: feels as she does towards me. Ward added, it is
1:02:53
Speaker 1: a source of great personal sorrow. I think she is
1:02:56
Speaker 1: a woman of remarkable courage. Yeah you're not, though, Vicky Ward.
1:03:00
Speaker 1: You're a coward, a chump, that's what you are. You
1:03:07
Speaker 1: don't care about these survivors. You don't care about hashtag
1:03:11
Speaker 1: me too. You care about mobile upward advancement and getting
1:03:18
Speaker 1: there is all that matters. If you have to shit
1:03:20
Speaker 1: on people like Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer, you'll do it.
1:03:25
Speaker 1: If you have to shit on the rest of these survivors.
1:03:27
Speaker 1: You'll do that too. There is nothing that you will
1:03:30
Speaker 1: not do to obtain your goals of professionalism. It's such
1:03:35
Speaker 1: a disgusting, disgusting thing to witness. At what point do
1:03:41
Speaker 1: you say enough is enough? At what point do you say,
1:03:43
Speaker 1: I'm not running cover for these pieces of shit anymore.
1:03:47
Speaker 1: You can't be making that much money, Vicky Ward. But
1:03:52
Speaker 1: once again another one of these so called journalists is
1:03:57
Speaker 1: riding shotgun with Maxwell and Epstein. Farmer, who had placed
1:04:03
Speaker 1: her trust in Vanity Fair to tell her story, has
1:04:06
Speaker 1: not forgotten Ward's actions. Ward befriended the monsters. Farmer told
1:04:10
Speaker 1: me I will never forgive her, and you shouldn't. Nobody should.
1:04:16
Speaker 1: Vicky Ward shouldn't be writing. The rest of these people
1:04:19
Speaker 1: that are involved with Epstein should be brought in for questioning.
1:04:24
Speaker 1: And this whole, entire, decades long affair needs to have
1:04:30
Speaker 1: a stamp put on it. Trials, convictions and long jail
1:04:41
Speaker 1: sentences for everybody that participated. All right, folks, that's gonna
1:04:48
Speaker 1: do it for this part of the story, Part six
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Speaker 1: of the Women Who Enabled Jeffrey Epstein by Tara Paul
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Speaker 1: Spice and welcome to the program. So for the past
1:05:04
Speaker 1: six days, we have been pounding out the Tara Palmery
1:05:08
Speaker 1: article The Women Who Enabled Jeffrey Epstein. Up to this
1:05:12
Speaker 1: point there is six segments and today will be the
1:05:17
Speaker 1: final segment, bringing the total to seven parts to complete
1:05:23
Speaker 1: the series. This is one of the better articles that
1:05:28
Speaker 1: has been put out as far as the Epstein case goes.
1:05:33
Speaker 1: Tara lays out pretty much the whole situation from a
1:05:38
Speaker 1: perspective that people who have not been following the case
1:05:41
Speaker 1: perhaps can understand, can sink their teeth into. And I
1:05:44
Speaker 1: think that's a very important aspect. When we're talking about
1:05:48
Speaker 1: a situation such as this. It shouldn't be a scratch
1:05:53
Speaker 1: the surf kind of surface kind of thing. It should
1:05:57
Speaker 1: be an, you know, an extensive look at what went on.
1:06:00
Speaker 1: All of the players surrounding the situation, the people involved,
1:06:04
Speaker 1: the associates, the lieutenants, the co conspirators, all these people
1:06:12
Speaker 1: should be put on blast. And we all know that
1:06:17
Speaker 1: the legacy media has not done their job when it
1:06:20
Speaker 1: comes to doing that. And it's not just happening, you know,
1:06:24
Speaker 1: just happened once. It's been happening for decades with this
1:06:27
Speaker 1: case and others, but this case specifically, it's such a
1:06:36
Speaker 1: complex case that there should be a couple of hours
1:06:40
Speaker 1: of programming on Rachel Maddow. Where's Rachel Maddow in all
1:06:44
Speaker 1: of this? You know, I always hear about how great
1:06:46
Speaker 1: of a person Rachel Maddow is. Where's she? Where's that dickhead?
1:06:51
Speaker 1: Sean Hannity nowhere to be found? Huh? You see, none
1:06:58
Speaker 1: of these people in the legacy media are willing to
1:07:02
Speaker 1: take the deep dive. None of these people in the
1:07:04
Speaker 1: legacy media are willing to put it on the line
1:07:07
Speaker 1: like someone like Tara Palmery is. And I think that
1:07:14
Speaker 1: this article that she put out in Politico was a
1:07:18
Speaker 1: very very very good way to wrap everything up and
1:07:24
Speaker 1: put a bow on it and present it to people
1:07:27
Speaker 1: who might not really grasp what went on here. Most
1:07:31
Speaker 1: people think that this is just your typical case of
1:07:34
Speaker 1: rich Man abused a couple of girls, and that's that,
1:07:38
Speaker 1: because that's the way it's been portrayed for the most part, right.
1:07:43
Speaker 1: But it's much deeper than that. It goes much further
1:07:45
Speaker 1: than that. It's not some wild conspiracy theory. This is
1:07:50
Speaker 1: a criminal conspiracy that was global, transcontinental, and it was vast.
1:08:01
Speaker 1: The network was vast and for anybody to think that
1:08:05
Speaker 1: this was the only network such as this and that
1:08:07
Speaker 1: this is still not going on. Well it is, and
1:08:10
Speaker 1: that's why I believe it's integral that justice is served here,
1:08:14
Speaker 1: and it's a heaping, steaming hot pile of shit for
1:08:18
Speaker 1: those who are getting the justice served to them. You
1:08:22
Speaker 1: have to make a mark. You have to make an
1:08:25
Speaker 1: example of people, right, You have to make an example
1:08:28
Speaker 1: of the people involved in things like this, or people
1:08:31
Speaker 1: are going to continue to do it. So I think
1:08:36
Speaker 1: the perfect time to do that, The perfect time to
1:08:39
Speaker 1: make an example of people is right now. All of them, Epstein,
1:08:45
Speaker 1: all of these associates, Maxwell, everybody caught up in a
1:08:50
Speaker 1: gigantic rico case. That's what they all deserve. But for
1:08:56
Speaker 1: some reason, not even the lowly yards are facing criminal
1:09:03
Speaker 1: prosecution anymore. So, right back to the starting point, at
1:09:09
Speaker 1: least this time. Though, however, Maxwell's behind bars. I guess
1:09:13
Speaker 1: that's something to hang the hat on, right, But what
1:09:17
Speaker 1: about all of the other people discussed in this article.
1:09:20
Speaker 1: What about all of the assistants, What about all the enablers,
1:09:25
Speaker 1: What about the groomers, what about the recruiters, what about
1:09:29
Speaker 1: all of the scions of business and the political world.
1:09:35
Speaker 1: Are they ever going to be held accountable for their nonsense?
1:09:39
Speaker 1: Are they ever going to be held accountable for their crimes?
1:09:46
Speaker 1: Certainly doesn't look that way, but at least somebody gives
1:09:50
Speaker 1: a damn. And that's somebody is Tara Paulmery. And you
1:09:55
Speaker 1: can tell by this article with the way she went hard.
1:10:00
Speaker 1: She didn't avoid anything or tiptoe around anything. And there
1:10:07
Speaker 1: needs to be a lot more of that. Real journalism,
1:10:12
Speaker 1: not worried about your faves, not worried about political tribalism,
1:10:16
Speaker 1: none of that shit, Oh this might make my candidate
1:10:19
Speaker 1: look bad? Who cares? Your job as a reporter is
1:10:22
Speaker 1: to report the story, not worry about if one candidate
1:10:26
Speaker 1: or the other looks bad, or if one political party
1:10:29
Speaker 1: or the other looks bad. And they've forgotten all about that.
1:10:35
Speaker 1: They act as you know, the propaganda arm, the elite
1:10:39
Speaker 1: media for the other elites, and that goes for everybody,
1:10:42
Speaker 1: all of them. Right, it's such a such a joke
1:10:48
Speaker 1: to watch the way the media conducts itself, and then
1:10:54
Speaker 1: they wonder why nobody trusts them. Well, you've been lying
1:10:59
Speaker 1: to people, You've been as lighting people, and remember, lies
1:11:02
Speaker 1: of omission are still lies. So with that said, we're
1:11:08
Speaker 1: gonna jump back into this political article and wrap it up.
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Speaker 1: This article was authored by Tara Palmery the man at
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Speaker 1: the center of it All. One thing that has always
1:11:22
Speaker 1: struck me about Epstein is that people who knew him
1:11:25
Speaker 1: well say he wasn't that charming. Yeah, no, shit, I
1:11:28
Speaker 1: didn't know him well and I could tell you he
1:11:29
Speaker 1: wasn't that charming. How long have I been saying that?
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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's as smart as some people
1:11:34
Speaker 1: try to make him out to be. You know, the
1:11:38
Speaker 1: people that run around and have to tell you how
1:11:40
Speaker 1: smart they are usually aren't that smart. Just like the
1:11:43
Speaker 1: people that run around and act tough and tell you
1:11:45
Speaker 1: how tough they are usually not tough. And the same
1:11:49
Speaker 1: goes for Epstein. I mean, charming, no, rich, Yes, So
1:11:56
Speaker 1: you could be not charming, you can be ugly, you
1:11:59
Speaker 1: could be mean, you can be crude, all of that
1:12:02
Speaker 1: as long as you have a couple of fozzles. If
1:12:05
Speaker 1: you don't have a couple of fozzles. So, if Epstein
1:12:08
Speaker 1: didn't have money, you really think anyone in those elite
1:12:11
Speaker 1: circles would have spent one single second with his gross
1:12:13
Speaker 1: sick ass. Of course they wouldn't sure. He was rich
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Speaker 1: and powerful and offered young women with very little, with
1:12:24
Speaker 1: very little, a taste of his lifestyle and a promise
1:12:28
Speaker 1: to fulfill their dreams. But he didn't have that irresistible
1:12:31
Speaker 1: cult leader quality. No, everything that he had, the whole
1:12:36
Speaker 1: situation he had set up, was all pieced together by
1:12:40
Speaker 1: the intricate, perfectly placed people within his network. And it
1:12:46
Speaker 1: wasn't just you know, Heaven'sgate kind of cult behavior. There
1:12:52
Speaker 1: was a lot of other things that went into it.
1:12:54
Speaker 1: People's own ambitions, people's own greed, people's own wants. And
1:12:58
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein facilitated that with his money, with his connections
1:13:02
Speaker 1: with the people he knew, and all of these girls,
1:13:06
Speaker 1: these lieutenants, these assistants, these people around him benefited from
1:13:09
Speaker 1: ill gotten gains. But somehow, for some reason, these people
1:13:19
Speaker 1: have not ever had to face the call of justice. Instead,
1:13:29
Speaker 1: Epstein had infrastructure, not just houses and jets, but the
1:13:34
Speaker 1: people around him, so many of them women who delivered
1:13:37
Speaker 1: more girls to satiate his sexual desires. Well, given off
1:13:41
Speaker 1: the impression that everybody's doing it. So again, it wasn't
1:13:47
Speaker 1: just that cult like persona right like Tara saying, right here,
1:13:51
Speaker 1: It had to do with his money, his connections, and
1:13:54
Speaker 1: the powerful people that he moved in circles with. You know,
1:14:00
Speaker 1: you walk into somebody's house and they have a picture
1:14:02
Speaker 1: of a president in that dress painted on their wall.
1:14:07
Speaker 1: Talk about a major power flex. Right, I'm so powerful,
1:14:12
Speaker 1: I have so much clout that I'm gonna put Bill
1:14:15
Speaker 1: Clinton in a dress on my wall for everybody to
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Speaker 1: laugh at when they come to my pad. Imagine having
1:14:22
Speaker 1: that kind of hubris, And then you say to yourself,
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Speaker 1: what makes him so confident in doing something like that?
1:14:34
Speaker 1: You just decide one day, I'm going to put a
1:14:36
Speaker 1: picture like that on my wall. What's the backstory behind it?
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Speaker 1: Why was that picture made in the first place. You
1:14:46
Speaker 1: would think that the media would be a lot more
1:14:48
Speaker 1: curious about that, but here we are. The perception was
1:14:54
Speaker 1: critical to Epstein's operation. He wanted everyone around him to
1:14:58
Speaker 1: appear happy, and he wanted the young women to know
1:15:02
Speaker 1: he was not only rich but powerful. So he name
1:15:05
Speaker 1: dropped incessantly, and that's exactly what he did. Jeffrey Epstein
1:15:10
Speaker 1: was always spreading it around, putting a little earworm and
1:15:13
Speaker 1: everybody's ear about how powerful he was, about how many
1:15:16
Speaker 1: people he knew about all of the powerful business leaders
1:15:21
Speaker 1: he had in his pocket, or the scientists, and he
1:15:25
Speaker 1: let it be known, right, He spread that around. It
1:15:27
Speaker 1: helped build up this fable of Jeffrey Epstein. And then
1:15:35
Speaker 1: you bring in these young girls or being trafficked or
1:15:37
Speaker 1: coming from other countries or broken homes or backgrounds, and
1:15:41
Speaker 1: they see all of this power, this opulence, this wealth,
1:15:45
Speaker 1: and as Virginia and others have said, this Mary Poppins
1:15:49
Speaker 1: like figure of Geelan Maxwell, and they're comfortable with what's
1:15:53
Speaker 1: going on. They see the other girls are doing it,
1:15:55
Speaker 1: so they think it's normalized. And then what happens is
1:16:01
Speaker 1: you have this large web of just absolute sick, disgusting
1:16:10
Speaker 1: behavior by Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. He hung pictures
1:16:19
Speaker 1: of famous people on his walls. His atmosphere was part
1:16:22
Speaker 1: of his allure. Without it, he would just be a
1:16:25
Speaker 1: creep in a mansion. And again that goes back to
1:16:29
Speaker 1: that picture, right, not only the picture of Bill Clinton,
1:16:32
Speaker 1: but all the other pictures of all the powerful people
1:16:34
Speaker 1: on his walls, the pictures of him with Trump, the
1:16:36
Speaker 1: pictures of him with Prince Andrew, the pictures of him
1:16:39
Speaker 1: with other dignitaries, and business leaders. That all lends to
1:16:43
Speaker 1: that persona that he was trying to build of a
1:16:50
Speaker 1: very powerful man who was highly connected, who could be
1:16:53
Speaker 1: a kingmaker basically or make and break your life. Oh
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Speaker 1: you want to be a model, I got the hook.
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't do what I want you to do.
1:17:01
Speaker 1: Forget it. I'm not gonna put in a good word.
1:17:03
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm gonna ruin you. I'm gonna make sure
1:17:06
Speaker 1: you never work for Victoria's Secret. And those are the
1:17:11
Speaker 1: kind of flexes that this dude used on a regular basis.
1:17:13
Speaker 1: That's the kind of thing that he did when maybe
1:17:16
Speaker 1: some of these girls would be a little hesitant, and
1:17:20
Speaker 1: he would use his extreme position of power to manipulate
1:17:25
Speaker 1: the situation to force girls into doing things that they
1:17:28
Speaker 1: didn't want to do. And then at the same time,
1:17:31
Speaker 1: he'd have his assistants, Kellen and the rest of them
1:17:35
Speaker 1: pay these girls like they were prostitutes in order to
1:17:38
Speaker 1: give him that cover story later on down the road
1:17:41
Speaker 1: if he got popped, and boy, it all worked out
1:17:43
Speaker 1: perfectly for him, didn't it. But he did. He never
1:17:47
Speaker 1: expected somebody like Virginia or Courtney or Maria or Annie
1:17:53
Speaker 1: or any of the other survivors to snatch the narrative
1:17:57
Speaker 1: and take it directly to the people. They never expected that,
1:18:00
Speaker 1: they never factored that in, and once it happened, they've
1:18:04
Speaker 1: been on their back foot. They've been on their heels
1:18:06
Speaker 1: for the whole entire time since. If the prosecution really
1:18:14
Speaker 1: had any sort of steal in its spine, they would
1:18:17
Speaker 1: have had all of these people rounded up and they
1:18:19
Speaker 1: would have made a serious, serious point in destroying everybody
1:18:25
Speaker 1: who was involved. But it sure seems to me that
1:18:29
Speaker 1: it's meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
1:18:32
Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me you have more confidence
1:18:34
Speaker 1: in Merrick Garland than bar Why I don't have confidence
1:18:40
Speaker 1: in any of these people. And until Merrick Garland puts up,
1:18:44
Speaker 1: he should probably shut up. And maybe that's why so
1:18:50
Speaker 1: many women look the other way. The teenage survivors took
1:18:54
Speaker 1: their cues from the beautiful women Epstein employed, who kept
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Speaker 1: up the appearance of a world of wealth and play.
1:19:00
Speaker 1: Of course, that's exactly what it was, right. Look, we're
1:19:04
Speaker 1: human beings are a very monkey see monkey do kind
1:19:07
Speaker 1: of race? Right? We ape things all the time, from
1:19:10
Speaker 1: the time where children all the way till the time
1:19:12
Speaker 1: we're adults. And you see this sort of situation occurring,
1:19:17
Speaker 1: and all of these other people just going about their
1:19:19
Speaker 1: daily life, everything normalized. Then you say, to yourself, as
1:19:23
Speaker 1: somebody who's coming from a different scene, well, shit, what
1:19:26
Speaker 1: do I know. I've never been around these people. Maybe
1:19:29
Speaker 1: this is the way things go. And then if everybody
1:19:34
Speaker 1: else is doing it and it's normal behavior, it doesn't
1:19:37
Speaker 1: seem so foreign to you, right, it doesn't seem like
1:19:40
Speaker 1: something that's so out of bounds, because hell, everybody's doing it.
1:19:51
Speaker 1: The sense of normalization when rippled outward to society at large,
1:19:55
Speaker 1: where more powerful women fail to call out Epstein's behavior
1:19:58
Speaker 1: or downplayed it, whether because of outside pressure or their
1:20:02
Speaker 1: own blind spots. So the myth of Epstein's world persisted
1:20:06
Speaker 1: while the real man at the center of it all
1:20:08
Speaker 1: kept abusing. And it's really the saddest part of all
1:20:13
Speaker 1: of this is that it could have been stopped, right,
1:20:15
Speaker 1: all of these people that were around him, all of
1:20:17
Speaker 1: these rich people that were around him, all of these
1:20:22
Speaker 1: super powerful people around him, they could have stopped it.
1:20:25
Speaker 1: But instead they went to his island. Instead, they went
1:20:29
Speaker 1: to his townhouse for a dinner, to hang out with Andrew.
1:20:34
Speaker 1: So always remember that when these people get on their soapbox.
1:20:37
Speaker 1: When these people get on their ivory tower and start
1:20:39
Speaker 1: shouting down at you, remember who was breaking bread with
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. For many years, Epstein's survivors cries for help
1:20:52
Speaker 1: were never heard. As young women, they weren't taken seriously.
1:20:57
Speaker 1: The power imbalance between the perpetrator and the was hardly
1:21:01
Speaker 1: taken into consideration. Attitudes were so different back then that
1:21:05
Speaker 1: Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting a miner for prostitution, as
1:21:10
Speaker 1: if a miner could be a prostitute. That language alone
1:21:14
Speaker 1: silent survivors like Wild who heard the word prostitute and
1:21:17
Speaker 1: thought that she was guilty a criminal. And that's exactly
1:21:21
Speaker 1: what they wanted to do, right. They wanted to use
1:21:23
Speaker 1: that kind of language, that explosive language, to set these
1:21:27
Speaker 1: girls up like they were the criminals, like they did
1:21:29
Speaker 1: something wrong. The ultimate gas lighting by narcissists. You know,
1:21:35
Speaker 1: it's like being in that relationship where you have a
1:21:37
Speaker 1: boyfriend or a girlfriend. They continuously gaslight you like everything
1:21:40
Speaker 1: is your fault, and before you know it, you think
1:21:43
Speaker 1: everything's your fault. You're like, oh shit, I'm bad, I'm
1:21:45
Speaker 1: a horrible partner. And there's a lot of people that
1:21:49
Speaker 1: manipulate situations like that. There's a lot of crafty sobs
1:21:53
Speaker 1: with their tongue, and it was certainly like that over
1:21:58
Speaker 1: here at Epstein Place. The lawyers especially were able to
1:22:06
Speaker 1: set it up as if these girls were actual prostitutes
1:22:09
Speaker 1: because of a few MySpace posts. It's one of the
1:22:15
Speaker 1: things in this case that really launches me into orbit
1:22:18
Speaker 1: to try and set those girls up like their prostitutes
1:22:20
Speaker 1: over social media posts. And let's be very honest, come on,
1:22:26
Speaker 1: maybe there's a few of you out there, right, we've
1:22:28
Speaker 1: talked about this that didn't get down when you were teenagers,
1:22:31
Speaker 1: didn't party, didn't have some drinks. Maybe there's some of
1:22:33
Speaker 1: you out there, certainly not me. I was wild in
1:22:38
Speaker 1: the hell out hell. We were getting mad dog twenty twenties,
1:22:41
Speaker 1: pouring them in slurpies and bringing them to class folk.
1:22:47
Speaker 1: Teenagers do dumb shit. That doesn't mean that they should
1:22:50
Speaker 1: be abused and a big part of a trafficking network
1:22:54
Speaker 1: of some sick ass fifty plus year old pedophile. I mean, really,
1:23:02
Speaker 1: it's an absolute joke that that was able to occur,
1:23:05
Speaker 1: and it's a bigger joke that the FDLE didn't find
1:23:08
Speaker 1: anything wrong with that. Today, Florida law acknowledges that miners
1:23:15
Speaker 1: can't consent to prostitution, and now more and more women
1:23:19
Speaker 1: around Epstein are seeking the justice they have been denied,
1:23:23
Speaker 1: taking agency to expose Epstein and his enablers. Virginia Roberts,
1:23:28
Speaker 1: who has been called a liar by some of the
1:23:30
Speaker 1: most powerful people and institutions in the world, including Buckingham Palace,
1:23:35
Speaker 1: has spent time on the road trying to get witnesses
1:23:38
Speaker 1: to verify her accounts. And not only that, but Virginia
1:23:41
Speaker 1: has been going hard on these dudes forever on social media,
1:23:46
Speaker 1: calling them out, begging for justice basically, and it's fallen
1:23:52
Speaker 1: on deaf ears for the most part. Now, don't get
1:23:54
Speaker 1: me wrong, the citizens are concerned, The actual people are concerned.
1:23:59
Speaker 1: But what what about our politicians? What about the people
1:24:02
Speaker 1: in power that are supposed to protect people like Virginia
1:24:05
Speaker 1: that failed her? When are they gonna step up to
1:24:09
Speaker 1: the plate? Folk Courtney Wilde has spent more than a
1:24:16
Speaker 1: decade fighting to overturn Epstein's non prosecution agreement and to
1:24:20
Speaker 1: strengthen the law for survivor's rights. Maryjique Chartuni decided to
1:24:26
Speaker 1: track down the women who brought her to Epstein, and
1:24:29
Speaker 1: that's how I learned of OH myself and is helping
1:24:32
Speaker 1: other survivors to do the same. She's already helped one
1:24:35
Speaker 1: other survivor, and what she's doing is incredible. Right, look,
1:24:42
Speaker 1: to reach out to others who have experienced the same
1:24:44
Speaker 1: pain and horror, heartache and trauma that you have suffered,
1:24:48
Speaker 1: and to offer your help is one of the most
1:24:51
Speaker 1: noblest things that you can possibly do. You've been there,
1:24:55
Speaker 1: you've done that, You've went through the trials and tribulations,
1:25:00
Speaker 1: and as somebody who has come out on the other side,
1:25:03
Speaker 1: like she has to reach out a helping hand to
1:25:05
Speaker 1: somebody else, it really just shows you the sort of
1:25:09
Speaker 1: character that she possesses, the sort of person that she is. Yet,
1:25:18
Speaker 1: there is still so much about Epstein's world that hasn't
1:25:21
Speaker 1: been exposed, and the women who ultimately know the most
1:25:24
Speaker 1: are the ones who are closest to him. If Epstein's
1:25:28
Speaker 1: House of Cards was built by women, that means it's
1:25:31
Speaker 1: also women who can reveal the true extent of his crimes.
1:25:35
Speaker 1: And that's for sure. These ladies that are still out
1:25:37
Speaker 1: there that had worked for him, that are saying they're victims. Now,
1:25:41
Speaker 1: where were you when he was arrested the first time?
1:25:44
Speaker 1: Why weren't you at the forefront telling the authorities what
1:25:48
Speaker 1: you knew? But they didn't do that. They didn't do that. Instead,
1:25:54
Speaker 1: they took their ill gotten gains, their launch into the
1:26:00
Speaker 1: social stratosphere, and they parlated into a good life, while
1:26:04
Speaker 1: these survivors, on the other hand, continued to struggle, to
1:26:09
Speaker 1: scrape and to try to just get by. Oh, to
1:26:15
Speaker 1: her credit, ultimately helped to confirm Shartuni's allegations of abuse
1:26:19
Speaker 1: by Epstein, despite their dispute about what happened twenty years ago.
1:26:24
Speaker 1: Oh is a witness who plays Shartuni and Epstein in
1:26:27
Speaker 1: the same room together, which she says she attested to
1:26:31
Speaker 1: in an affid David submitted as part of Schartuni's case
1:26:35
Speaker 1: for compensation. Having spent more than a year in Epstein's orbit,
1:26:39
Speaker 1: Oh presumably could be a valuable witness for investigations into
1:26:43
Speaker 1: Maxwell and others too. So could plenty of other women,
1:26:47
Speaker 1: Yet very few have been willing to come forward. And
1:26:51
Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that even though he's dead. With
1:26:55
Speaker 1: Maxwell on trial, Brunell hemmed up in France, that people
1:26:59
Speaker 1: are still scared to come forward. It just shows you
1:27:02
Speaker 1: how deep his ties went, how many people he was
1:27:05
Speaker 1: connected to, and how powerful the circle he ran in was.
1:27:11
Speaker 1: Even in death, people are scared to come forward. To me,
1:27:18
Speaker 1: the fact that so many women know so much more
1:27:21
Speaker 1: yet have stayed silent might be the most depressing part
1:27:24
Speaker 1: of this story. Shartuni, a mother of two in Washington State,
1:27:28
Speaker 1: understands the power of testimony. Like Ohs. She sees it
1:27:32
Speaker 1: as a way not just to hold others accountable, but
1:27:35
Speaker 1: also to find closure. She told me, this is a
1:27:39
Speaker 1: service that we can all provide for each other. Shartuni said,
1:27:43
Speaker 1: it's not just to you know, be vindictive and like
1:27:46
Speaker 1: call people out for the things they did. It's also,
1:27:50
Speaker 1: she said, to heal and folks. That concludes our coverage
1:27:57
Speaker 1: of the women who enabled Jeffrey Epstein by Tara Paul Mary.
1:28:04
Speaker 1: It's been quite the ride here the last seven days
1:28:08
Speaker 1: or so covering this article, and it's refreshing to finally
1:28:13
Speaker 1: see somebody in the legacy media, or you know, at
1:28:17
Speaker 1: least connected to the legacy media, puts a pen to
1:28:21
Speaker 1: paper and really get into it a little bit, really
1:28:24
Speaker 1: open the curtain a little bit, show what's going on.
1:28:27
Speaker 1: A little bit, not just a four paragraph article, but
1:28:31
Speaker 1: a real article that gets down into the weeds. So
1:28:35
Speaker 1: for that, Tara Paul Mary should certainly get a tip
1:28:39
Speaker 1: of the cap. All right, everybody. In exactly one week,
1:28:46
Speaker 1: my new podcast is launching. Life is a mosh pit
1:28:50
Speaker 1: where we're gonna be exploring all of the headlines every
1:28:54
Speaker 1: single day from the news as well as other stuff.
1:28:57
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be going into some serious topics. We're gonna
1:29:00
Speaker 1: have people on. We're gonna talk about things like deep
1:29:02
Speaker 1: space exploration, and we're gonna talk about goofy stuff too,
1:29:07
Speaker 1: like pop culture. We're gonna talk about reality TV. And
1:29:13
Speaker 1: my girlfriend Carrie is also going to be joining me
1:29:16
Speaker 1: on the podcast when we talk about pop culture, when
1:29:19
Speaker 1: we talk about reality TV, when we talk about things
1:29:22
Speaker 1: like that, because she knows a lot more about it
1:29:25
Speaker 1: than I do. So I'm really excited. It's gonna be
1:29:28
Speaker 1: a daily show like the Jeffrey Epstein Show. We're gonna
1:29:31
Speaker 1: yank articles from the news. We're gonna talk about articles
1:29:36
Speaker 1: that are being buried. We're gonna talk about geopolitics. We're
1:29:40
Speaker 1: gonna dive into it all, folks. I'm also going to
1:29:43
Speaker 1: have a segment called That's Wild, where I pull an
1:29:48
Speaker 1: article a story from around the world that is just
1:29:53
Speaker 1: hard to believe that it's even real. So that's gonna
1:29:57
Speaker 1: be starting June first, we're gonna have that. We're still
1:30:00
Speaker 1: gonna have this Jeffrey Epstein Show at least one episode
1:30:02
Speaker 1: a day. We're gonna have the daily News updates a
1:30:05
Speaker 1: couple episodes a day, probably on the new program, and
1:30:08
Speaker 1: we're gonna be off and running, folks. The first season
1:30:13
Speaker 1: air quotes for the new podcast as well. Life as
1:30:16
Speaker 1: a mosh Pit will be based on the War on Drugs,
1:30:19
Speaker 1: probably three to four parts, and then I plan on
1:30:24
Speaker 1: doing something like that once a month or so, where
1:30:27
Speaker 1: we do a deep dive into a topic that's interesting
1:30:30
Speaker 1: that I feel like is not getting enough coverage or
1:30:33
Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's getting the proper coverage. We'll
1:30:35
Speaker 1: dive right into that and we'll break it down, we'll
1:30:39
Speaker 1: see what's what. I also want to start pulling articles
1:30:45
Speaker 1: that are just insanely, insanely gaslighting type of material, and
1:30:53
Speaker 1: we'll discuss that stuff as well. But there's gonna be
1:30:55
Speaker 1: a lot of guests on the show. Like I was saying,
1:30:57
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about all kinds of things, folks, the homeless.
1:31:00
Speaker 1: This issue, we're gonna talk about live entertainment. We're gonna
1:31:03
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some people on that, uh, you know,
1:31:05
Speaker 1: work here in Vegas. I got wild stories about what
1:31:08
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1:31:12
Speaker 1: cool stuff coming up for you, folks that I think
1:31:14
Speaker 1: you're gonna really enjoy. So June first Market on your calendars.
1:31:20
Speaker 1: I'll make sure all the links are posted here and
1:31:23
Speaker 1: for the next week, I'll make sure that you know
1:31:25
Speaker 1: I'm keeping you guys up to date about what to
1:31:27
Speaker 1: expect because I've had a lot of emails in regards
1:31:31
Speaker 1: to this, and it's gonna be a fun time, folks.
1:31:35
Speaker 1: We're gonna really branch out and talk about a lot
1:31:38
Speaker 1: of other things. You know, We've spent a lot of
1:31:40
Speaker 1: time here talking about Jeffrey Epstein and there are you know,
1:31:44
Speaker 1: other things going on in the world. So we're gonna
1:31:47
Speaker 1: be branching out after roughly two years covering this, and
1:31:51
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna really dip our toes in and
1:31:54
Speaker 1: see what's going on around the world. All Right, everybody,
1:31:58
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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, I will be back tomorrow and we
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Speaker 1: will pick up where we left off. Happy holidays,