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The Ron Verb Show - 4pm Hour - Wednesday, 08/05/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Back to it, NewsRadio 570 WKBN, 4.07 in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: And you're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Ron, do you use any AI day-to-day? We talk a
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  Speaker 4: lot about AI.
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  Speaker 5: We're going to run out of water or electricity.
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  Speaker 4: But do you actually use it at all?
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  Speaker 3: The fringes of it.
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  Speaker 2: Here's an interesting story for you. My son, we were
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  Speaker 2: having a problem with an air conditioning issue in our truck,
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  Speaker 2: one of our trucks. And he asked a, well, first
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  Speaker 2: he was given some advice from a top-notch mechanic and
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  Speaker 2: then with AI. And then he says, oh, I can
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  Speaker 2: fix this. This is no big deal. And he, and
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  Speaker 2: he did it in 10 minutes with, like he said,
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  Speaker 2: kind of with AI.
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  Speaker 4: So, so yeah, I mean, Some of these things, you
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  Speaker 4: don't even have to, you know, some of the hardest
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  Speaker 4: part knowing how to fix things is knowing what to
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  Speaker 4: even ask the question to how to fix it. But
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  Speaker 4: not anymore. You just take a picture of what you
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  Speaker 4: need to fix.
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  Speaker 3: Or what's wrong. What are the symptoms and what do
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  Speaker 3: you think that was the problem, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Right. And that's half the battle is just knowing what
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  Speaker 4: questions to ask half the time. It is starting to
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  Speaker 4: get a little scary. I won't elaborate on the story,
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  Speaker 4: but the big names, Grok, Chad GPT, Claude, all of these,
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  Speaker 4: they took them all offline and basically told these AI
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  Speaker 4: agents that they were going to be shut down. They
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  Speaker 4: all got out, got onto the internet, and basically blackmailed
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  Speaker 4: the person who was running it by making fake emails
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  Speaker 4: saying that they were having an affair or whatever within
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  Speaker 4: the company. Because the AI agents were going to get
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  Speaker 4: shut down. So they used lying about the CEO or
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  Speaker 4: whoever of the company to justify the means so that
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  Speaker 4: they weren't ended. And it's starting to get really out
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  Speaker 4: of hand. And the crazy part was the only way
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  Speaker 4: they could figure out how this even happened was by
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  Speaker 4: using a Chinese open source artificial intelligence. Because all of
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  Speaker 4: our AIs in our country are run by, you know,
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  Speaker 4: big major corporations. So the only way they could figure
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  Speaker 4: out how to fix it was by using a Chinese model.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what's really scary because we always talk about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, China and all the terrible things that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: from the economy to COVID and all this stuff. But
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  Speaker 4: we're now the country that are running all the closed
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  Speaker 4: models and China is running the open source models. So
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  Speaker 4: we're getting to this point now with AI where you
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  Speaker 4: can ask it, hey, how do I fix my stove?
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  Speaker 4: And that's great. But what happens when you ask it, hey,
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  Speaker 4: who should I vote for this year and why? It
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  Speaker 4: all depends on who's putting in the information and what
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  Speaker 4: the CEO or the board of that AI company really
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  Speaker 4: wants you to know as the truth. And AI is
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  Speaker 4: not always 100% right, but people are lazy. So when
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  Speaker 4: they get the answer, they usually just go with it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you could write an email now and just
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  Speaker 4: on Gmail hit Polish, and it'll take your email from
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  Speaker 4: being the writing level of a second grader, and you
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  Speaker 4: can make it sound totally coherent like you're a PhD.
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  Speaker 4: So it's not you're smart. It's just the AI does it.
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  Speaker 4: And most of the time, most people aren't even going
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  Speaker 4: to read it. They're going to hit send. So you
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  Speaker 4: don't really know if you're talking to anybody who's actually
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  Speaker 4: even intelligent or not. Most people won't proofread it to
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  Speaker 4: know if the email even makes sense. It's just starting
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  Speaker 4: to get really scary. and it's going to get to
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  Speaker 4: the point where some nefarious people are going to start
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  Speaker 4: really taking advantage of this situation where you actually do
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  Speaker 4: have to start preparing yourself because one day you're just
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  Speaker 4: going to hear on the news that something really bad happened,
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  Speaker 4: some cybersecurity something or other, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: are probably going to get taken advantage of, and you've
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  Speaker 4: got to be prepared for it. So you've got to
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  Speaker 4: know how to use this stuff, and you've got to
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  Speaker 4: know what to look out for too. These are just
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  Speaker 4: added to the list of things you've got to watch
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  Speaker 4: out for and worry about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here listening to Alec talk, folks, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking this all in, man. I mean, so you're
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  Speaker 2: telling me that you can write a letter and it
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  Speaker 2: can make you look smarter than you are, basically.
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  Speaker 4: A hundred percent.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And it's too easy now.
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  Speaker 2: So like when I was in college, let me just say,
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  Speaker 2: how's it going to work? Like a lot of times
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  Speaker 2: when I was in college, you had to write a paper, right?
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  Speaker 2: And you used a typewriter. Boy, does that make you
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  Speaker 2: sound 100 years old? I mean, because there weren't computers.
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  Speaker 2: So you typed it out. You used the typewriter to
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  Speaker 2: type it. Now, so when you turned it in, it
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  Speaker 2: was clear that you wrote it and you researched it.
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  Speaker 2: So today you're saying basically you could write whatever paper
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  Speaker 2: in college and you could have AI fix it up.
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  Speaker 2: And do you think that the professor, these people will
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  Speaker 2: catch it or grade it based on AI?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not even worried about that because anymore, and
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  Speaker 4: I can speak to this 100%, but if you submit
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  Speaker 4: a paper at a university, you don't print it off and.
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  Speaker 5: Hand it anymore.
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  Speaker 4: You hand it in electronically. And then they have software.
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  Speaker 4: They could, you know, put it up against, say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: what percentage was this written by AI. And a lot
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  Speaker 4: of these, they can even see your keystrokes going along.
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  Speaker 4: So if you start typing and your paper goes across
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  Speaker 4: the page, you know, in a consistent flow without any backspaces,
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  Speaker 4: anything like that, you know, they could tell you're getting right.
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  Speaker 4: And there's a lot of, you know, code of ethics
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  Speaker 4: and stuff in universities more. I think that's getting a
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  Speaker 4: lot better where you really can't mess around with that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But most people aren't getting their papers graded at a university.
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  Speaker 4: Using AI, though, on a day-to-day basis, you can't really
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  Speaker 4: save a lot of time, save a lot of money
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  Speaker 4: for things. You can get the free version where you
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  Speaker 4: only get so many tokens or credits that you're able
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  Speaker 4: to use, and then it starts throttling down for you.
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  Speaker 4: I use a paid version where I could use more
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  Speaker 4: of it. But the one thing that's getting better and
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  Speaker 4: better each time is its memory. Usually I'd have to
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  Speaker 4: go in, and if I wanted to start something, let's
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  Speaker 4: say work on a project, you name it, whatever. If
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  Speaker 4: I came back to it two weeks later, I'd have
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  Speaker 4: to start all over again. Now I can go three
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  Speaker 4: months later and just mention something that I was working
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  Speaker 4: on and it will have the memory from that project
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  Speaker 4: three months ago. And this is just what I'm able
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  Speaker 4: to get, you know, for the what, you know, 10
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  Speaker 4: bucks a month, 20 bucks a month that I pay
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  Speaker 4: for it. I can't even comprehend what, you know, some
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  Speaker 4: of these agencies, you know, or companies are able to
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  Speaker 4: actually do with it. The problem is, though, they're putting
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  Speaker 4: so much money into this. I don't know what they're
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  Speaker 4: getting out from a revenue side. And that's what scares
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  Speaker 4: me about the whole entire market. You could say you
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  Speaker 4: could put your name, whatever, AI in the stock market.
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  Speaker 4: It would have gone up 10x in the last, you know, two,
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  Speaker 4: three years. There's going to come a point where these
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  Speaker 4: companies need to start making money off of this. And
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  Speaker 4: are they going to be able to at the rate
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  Speaker 4: at which they're spending and all this capital moving forward?
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  Speaker 4: I haven't heard much about Stargate, the data center that's
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  Speaker 4: going out to Lordstown, other than when it really came out.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't heard much news about it.
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  Speaker 4: Are they still even moving forward with that? Where's that at?
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  Speaker 4: Do they have the capital put into it?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't heard much. And that's the thing. You know,
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  Speaker 4: the narrative, everything changes so, so darn fast here. It's
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  Speaker 4: getting scary. Have you heard about the scenarios where, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you could clone, you know, you can clone your voice.
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  Speaker 4: I could be talking to you right now. I could
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  Speaker 4: just be an AI speaking to you. Someone could clone
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  Speaker 4: my voice where people will do this now, call your
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  Speaker 4: family and say, hey, look, we've kidnapped so-and-so. You better
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  Speaker 4: send the money here. I mean, there's real-case scenarios now
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  Speaker 4: where you actually have to tell your family that you
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  Speaker 4: need to have a secret password if you're actually ever
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  Speaker 4: in trouble because you can't disseminate the difference between my
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  Speaker 4: voice and the AI-generated voice. That's where we're getting that
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  Speaker 4: to a point in society. And that's just scary how
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  Speaker 4: fast things are moving. Before, you used to prepare yourself
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  Speaker 4: for things like the future, like, oh, we're getting a computer. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: it's a three-and-a-half-inch floppy disk. We're going to move to
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  Speaker 4: a CD-ROM. No, you can't even comprehend the things that
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  Speaker 4: are happening so fast. and the legislation behind it is
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  Speaker 4: not keeping up, what guardrails do we have in place
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  Speaker 4: so that me, you, anybody else can't get in on
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  Speaker 4: an AI agent to attack somebody? And when you don't
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  Speaker 4: have to actually put in the physical or mental work
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  Speaker 4: to do it anymore, it makes it a lot easier.
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  Speaker 4: And what happens when a nation state tries to do it?
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  Speaker 4: What happens if China or North Korea or Iran tried
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  Speaker 4: to do that they might not be able to do
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  Speaker 4: it against our federal government because we have just as
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  Speaker 4: much you know computing power artificial intelligence but what if
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  Speaker 4: they go after our water uh... supply or our electrical
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  Speaker 4: grid they've been doing china's been in it for years
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  Speaker 4: what happens if now it's a lot easier to actually
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  Speaker 4: make it happen and then cover up their tracks afterwards
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  Speaker 4: these are all things you think we're spending money now
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  Speaker 4: what do we have to do for defense of all
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  Speaker 4: this cyber security is going to get even crazier.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here listening to all of this, and boy,
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  Speaker 2: I find it thought-provoking. I was thinking, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think the effects of AI will be on stock trading?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when it comes to AI, actually, let's say
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  Speaker 2: you have it running stock trades or a portfolio for you,
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  Speaker 2: and it's doing the picking and the trading and everything.
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  Speaker 2: it would probably be better than a stockbroker or financial planner.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, there's going to be, just like anything else,
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  Speaker 4: AI agents that are better than others. There's going to
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  Speaker 4: be better stock pickers that are better than others or
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  Speaker 4: money managers. But I mean, that's their whole job as
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  Speaker 4: a money manager is to get the information, disseminate it,
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  Speaker 4: make the best decision. Do you think somebody who's doing that,
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  Speaker 4: who's also, you know, running everybody else's portfolio, their family themselves,
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  Speaker 4: their health, their wellness is going to be able to
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  Speaker 4: make the best decision possibly than a computer program that
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  Speaker 4: runs on artificial intelligence? Maybe, maybe not. But that's what's
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  Speaker 4: already going on. That's why I keep saying, when we
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  Speaker 4: go off and on on war, we're at war, we're
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  Speaker 4: not at war, we're on war, we're not at war,
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's really because anything's happening. I think
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  Speaker 4: they're manipulating the market so that they know if they
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  Speaker 4: put out that statement, the AIs are going to read that,
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  Speaker 4: and they're going to trade near the stocks or the
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  Speaker 4: oil just on that. That's probably what happened yesterday. I
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  Speaker 4: mentioned yesterday, but... Nobody really knows. We bailed out Japan
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  Speaker 4: on Friday with their currency swap, so the Japanese carry
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  Speaker 4: trade was able to keep going on. So when everybody
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  Speaker 4: in Japan knew that they could borrow money at less
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  Speaker 4: than 1% interest rates and then leverage it in the
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  Speaker 4: United States to buy assets at 10x, well, that trade
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  Speaker 4: they just knew was back on because Friday the United
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  Speaker 4: States bailed them out.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you make of that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, that's just it.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes you just don't know, and it's a timing thing.
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  Speaker 4: I think I've been saying for a while, too, I
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  Speaker 4: haven't been really enamored by the stock market for a
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  Speaker 4: long time because I think it's all big house cards.
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  Speaker 4: But being too early is the same as being wrong.
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  Speaker 4: How long can the Federal Reserve keep printing money? Can
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  Speaker 4: they keep doing that until I can be insolvent for
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  Speaker 4: what I think the market's going to go in the
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  Speaker 4: other direction? That's what makes a market. Some people think
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  Speaker 4: it's going up. Some people think it's going down. And
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  Speaker 4: it just depends on who gets the information that much faster.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have the AI agents who can make those trades?
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  Speaker 4: Do you have them that are programming code and multiple
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  Speaker 4: lines of code, finding errors in code so that your
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  Speaker 4: trade could go faster than anybody else?
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  Speaker 3: Let me put it this way, folks.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you're listening to what he's saying, because whether
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  Speaker 2: you like it or not, it's I'm sitting here listening
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  Speaker 2: like I'm sitting in a chair listening to a lecture
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  Speaker 2: and enjoying it, quite frankly. And I'm listening to what
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  Speaker 2: Alec is saying because what he's saying is this isn't
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  Speaker 2: the Jetsons that's happening in 10 years.
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  Speaker 3: This is happening now.
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  Speaker 2: What you're talking about is here now and is going
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  Speaker 2: to grow in reality each and every day. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're not talking about something far off in the future.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about the present.
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  Speaker 5: Agree? Agree.
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  Speaker 4: A hundred percent. Even if you're a little, if your
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  Speaker 4: name's in somebody's yard sign come election season, you should
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  Speaker 4: have your last name and then what AI agent you're
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  Speaker 4: using to make yourself, you know, more efficient for the taxpayer.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it does make you more efficient. You do
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  Speaker 4: have to have some form of knowledge to know what
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  Speaker 4: questions to ask and then be able to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: disseminate the result it gives you. But it's changing a lot.
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  Speaker 4: It's changing it fast. And if you don't know about
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  Speaker 4: it or at least know how to use it or
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  Speaker 4: know how to identify when somebody else is using it,
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  Speaker 4: you can get yourself in a world of hurt. And
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  Speaker 4: I really feel for the elderly out there because not
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  Speaker 4: only can you write an email that, you know, is
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  Speaker 4: way better than, you know, you could ever write yourself.
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  Speaker 4: The videos out there are just insane that you can't
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  Speaker 4: tell the difference between what's real and what's not, what's
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  Speaker 4: AI created. If you're not watching these things all the
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  Speaker 4: time and seeing the difference between them, it's really scary.
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  Speaker 4: And it's only going to get better. It's getting better
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  Speaker 4: every single year. The threshold for AI video, and don't
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  Speaker 4: ask me why this started out like this, but it
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  Speaker 4: was a video of Will Smith eating a bowl of spaghetti.
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  Speaker 4: And in 2023, he'd have like seven fingers and it
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  Speaker 4: just looked like the fakest thing you can ever see. Well,
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  Speaker 4: if you look at the version of it now in 2026,
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  Speaker 4: you cannot tell that that wasn't shot by some, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood movie set. And it is 100% completely fake. There's
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  Speaker 4: no need for Disney anymore to hire Imagineers to build
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  Speaker 4: all these things or spend millions of dollars when they
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  Speaker 4: could just have the computer, the AI build it for them.
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  Speaker 3: Stand by for one minute. I want to hear more
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  Speaker 3: when we come back right after this.
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  Speaker 1: News, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 3: So what do you think we should do?
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  Speaker 4: Start using AI.
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  Speaker 2: In other words, in your opinion, anyone who's listening should
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  Speaker 2: try to get an understanding of what AI is and
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  Speaker 2: how to use it. And so we should start using it.
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  Speaker 3: And then what?
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  Speaker 4: Just make your life easier on daily activities, writing an email,
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  Speaker 4: fixing something in your garage, writing a list. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 4: anybody out there, if you just know how to ask
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  Speaker 4: the questions, you can do just about anything on your computer.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to make an app for something, I
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  Speaker 4: know it sounds crazy. But it can actually be done
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  Speaker 4: as long as you just have the time to actually
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  Speaker 4: go back and forth with it and ask the questions.
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  Speaker 5: It's insane.
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  Speaker 4: But you need to know how to use it, and
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  Speaker 4: you need to just keep using it. AI is like golf.
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  Speaker 4: You get better at golf the more you golf. So
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  Speaker 4: you get better at AI the more you use AI,
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  Speaker 4: and you're going to start realizing that you could use
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  Speaker 4: this for other things that you never even would have
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  Speaker 4: thought of before.
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  Speaker 3: That would make your life easier.
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  Speaker 4: Make it easier and also protect yourself a lot more
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  Speaker 4: so that that way you kind of get the gist
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  Speaker 4: and understanding of, ooh, somebody else could do this. How
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  Speaker 4: can I get a tacker? Maybe I need to put
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  Speaker 4: that two-factor authentication on my retirement account. Maybe I need
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  Speaker 4: to protect my phone against a SIM swap. All these
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  Speaker 4: other things that you don't even think are possible, but
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  Speaker 4: they can happen to you if you're not protected because
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  Speaker 4: it's dangerous out there. And again, we're in a weird
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  Speaker 4: time right now. all these companies that are using it,
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  Speaker 4: they're putting all their data from all their companies, all
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  Speaker 4: their proprietary information into these companies that aren't even public yet.
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  Speaker 4: And they control all of that information, just a handful
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  Speaker 4: of companies. And it all depends on who's using that
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  Speaker 4: information from the top down. Hey, they say they're not
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  Speaker 4: going to use it. They're not going to look at it.
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  Speaker 4: But you can't really trust it. You have to verify it.
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  Speaker 4: And we can't verify it. So You have to protect yourself,
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  Speaker 4: but you also have to know how to use it,
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  Speaker 4: like using your cell phone. You agree to the terms
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  Speaker 4: of agreement as soon as you turn it on or
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  Speaker 4: you can't use it. So we can't live in a
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  Speaker 4: society anymore without having a cell phone. Maybe Frank still
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  Speaker 4: doesn't have a cell phone, but in regular society, you
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  Speaker 4: still need to have a phone. So you either need
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: to learn how to use it or just get left behind.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: But you also need to know how to protect yourself,
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: just like having a phone. so you don't get scammed
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: or spammed or a virus, anything like that. It's just
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: it's a weird world moving forward. And not only just
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: talking about the cost of all this or the jobs
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: locally from it, but just going on a personal level,
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: how to use it and how to make it work
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: for you.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Do you think it'll replace a lot of people, as
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: they've been saying, that it'll put people out of work?
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's going to put people out
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: of work. I think it's going to prevent people from
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: getting work. If you're a lawyer and you've been a
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: lawyer for 30 years, AI is not going to put
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: you out of business. But it's going to prevent that
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: big law firm from hiring the 25-year-old. If you've been
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: a broker, you know, an investor for 30 years with
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: a track record, it might not put you out of business,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: but you don't need to hire 15 other people in
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: your office. So it's going to prevent other jobs from
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: even coming into play. And then, again, it's all going
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: to depend. There's some AI models out there. They're so good,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: but they cost so much. It's actually more than just
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: hiring the actual person to do the work. So that's
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: where the cost of energy, like we've always talked about,
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: is going to come into play. We need to find
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: a way to get more energy in our country. Obviously,
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: the war with the Strait of Hormuz being closed, that
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: throws everything into a loop. That's all trickled down. Gas, propane, diesel,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: every form of energy, you name it. But you need
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: to have the memory. You need to have the chips.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: We don't have the building capacity in our country or globally,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: but definitely not in our country. So we can't even
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: move forward exponentially at the rate that these companies need
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: to to make a profit because we don't have the
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: production capacity. So at some point, I don't know when
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: there's a tipping point. And that's where I could be right.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: It could be next week. I could be wrong. It
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: could be next week. Nobody really knows the answer. I mean,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Elon Musk, he's been planning this for years. He's building
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: these enormous data centers, and right now he doesn't need
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: the capacity, so he's selling it to other companies, but
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: there's going to come a day where you're driving around
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: in your autonomous car and he's putting rockets back on
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: the moon, which he did today. Did you see him
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: launch a rocket and hit the moon today? That's another thing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: He's going to want that all back, and then all
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: these companies, their revenues are just going to tank because
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: they don't have the storage or the memory or the compute.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: So unless we find a way to build more of it,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: it's going to cost more.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Well, isn't that, when you talk about that, isn't that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: like Bezos? I mean, we couldn't live without Amazon. I mean,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: it's a great thing, but doesn't he make the bulk
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of his money with that AWS, that system of his?
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Amazon Web Services. He'll even say that he
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: was shocked to have that for so long without any competition.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's gigantic, correct?
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: His web service and all types of businesses go through it,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and it's huge, and it's got to make him just
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a fortune, that alone, in addition to Amazon, the service
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that brings you your packages and stuff.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. I mean, he's been selling actually a lot
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: of shares lately because he's got his own you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: rocket company Blue Origin, he never needs to sell anything
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: in his life. He could just, you know, take loans
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: against his assets and, you know, he never has to
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: do anything. But he's, you know, I guess once you
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: become a, you know, multi-billionaire like that, you just want
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: to make your own space rocket company and have it succeed.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: So you're excited about it, but you're also worried about it, right?
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: Man, excellent call. Thank you. I hope you call and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: talk more about it. Appreciate it, Alec. Thanks. I mean,
• 20:40
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, if you were paying attention when Alec
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: was talking, it was really interesting. And what he's saying is,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: you know, you got to get hip with this stuff
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  Speaker 2: and start learning it.
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  Speaker 3: And he's right. I mean, he's just right on the money.
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• 22:17
  Speaker 5: So that's the lead in. I really enjoyed Alex's conversation.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: I have a slightly different take on it. If you're interested,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: it's very interested on how can AI save us tax
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: dollars pretty quickly. Want to hear that?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Okay. In Ohio. This is just one example, okay, by
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: the way. But in Ohio, there are 88 counties, right? Yes.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: And there are 88 county auditors.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Okay. Each has their right to have their own data
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: set that is not controlled by the state. There is
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: this thing called OGRIP that is like the state, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: they all submit their parcels, like the properties in your
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: counties there. But It's really inconsistent, and there are companies
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: that support it today, and the most that any one
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: company does, the most counties that any one company does
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: is like 22 or 23.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: All right. So knowing this, I just wanted to learn
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: how Trimble County worked, and I made a public records request,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: and so I started studying. And by the way, you
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: can also, you don't just have to have AI do
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: things for you. You can have it teach you things.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: And that sticks in your mind, just helps you, you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: it's a learning tool too. So anyway, so all of
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: these different 88 counties, they have teams of people that
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: manage data or they hire people that do, and they
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: all do it differently. I started with Trumbull County, and
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I just kept going after that because I saw a pattern,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: and I created an interface. Right now, if you check
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: your email, Ron, right now, you'll see it. You can
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: click on the link and you'll see what I mean.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: It's an app that has all 88 counties in it,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: and it has a consistent interface into the data for
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: all 88 county auditors. So I ask you down the road,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: once I get there, and right now I'm writing things
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: that will, like, test it and make sure it's production
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: ready and all this kind of stuff. Okay? So once
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I get it done, I'm going to, you know, show
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: it to people that care.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And, okay, once you get it done, it will tell
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: you what?
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: Okay, so that's just what I was about to say.
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Who cares? People that are looking for properties, like energy
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: drillers or people that want to put any kind of
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: plants and things like that, they go and they look
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: at these county auditor sites and they look at properties.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: And every time they go to a different one in Ohio,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: they have to use a different service. Now, they don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: have to. And it's just, it puts a face over
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: the whole thing so one person can just say, oh,
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: I want to see what's in that county. Okay, how
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: do you do it? Do it the same way. Go there,
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: hit parcels, look it up, you know, drill down to it,
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: address the parcel number, whatever. But it's all the same
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: and it's handled all the same way. So that eventually
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: the question will become, okay, so why do I need
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: 88 different departments in Ohio? How much does that cost?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: So my first thought was, is this something that as
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: you do it yourself, you could monetize it for yourself? Maybe.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe, but I'm more interested at this point. See,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: I feel like..
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll skip that.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Let me go to the next thing.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: So if you could get all the data from 88 counties..
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: All put together on AI, then theoretically you could say
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: to AI, where is the waste in Mahoning County? And
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: it will do its thing to show you where the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: waste is.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Well, you have to give it the data to find
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: out where waste is, but you're getting it right. Like,
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: let's just say, let's say, okay, I got these 88
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: interfaces into this data, right? So I need to go
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: in and now I can ask AI, which I'm about
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: to do, say, okay, now that you can look at
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: all of them the same, make me a database of
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: all of them the same and extract all the values
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: that are different between them, but make them all look
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: the same in a database. Okay, now... That's what they
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: theoretically have at this OGRIP program in Columbus, but it's
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: not very good. I'm discovering, you know, firsthand. Like, if
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: anybody knows what computer-aided mass appraisal is, they don't even
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: have those mixed with the actual parcel data in all cases.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: It's just all different. So I actually did it and said, okay,
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: I want this same representation. So to your point, let's say, oh,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: here's one you like. Another thing I created was lists
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: of all the health care providers, okay? And you could get– actually,
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: you could get all the data for every health care provider,
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: even if they're just people that work at hospitals and stuff.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: But let's forget that. Anybody who's listed as a health
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: care provider in Ohio, period, on a map. And, like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: so if you're somebody like that Nick Shirley guy or something,
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: you know, here you go, Nick. Go see who's working
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: and all that. So you could use it. It could
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: help you. Now, you could also, Ron, make a steady
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: other list, to your point, about things that might reveal
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: waste and fraud and abuse or do things better. Duplication. See,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: that's what started this conversation. There's all this duplication. It
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: was just because it was a monumental task that you
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: could never do.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: You know, it was so busy.
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: Everybody said, keep your county at your data level. That's
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: too big. I can't manage it here. Well, that was before.
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? It's like now if you
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: want to walk through, I mean, I got to tell you,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: AI just didn't do this for me. I mean, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: spent months. Going through the state of Ohio.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, but would you say that within the next short
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: period of time, and I mean short period of time,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking 10 years from now or five years
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: from now, in a short period of time, the job
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of Mahoney County Auditor will be much different than it
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: is today?
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I believe so. By the way, yeah, you can look
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: at Mahoney County Auditors there, too.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, it will be much different to where
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: many of the people that you employ you won't need
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: anymore because the AI system will be better and more
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: efficient at doing.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: It, right?
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you train it to do the busy work, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: then you say, okay, well, I don't need the people
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: to do the busy work. And let's talk about another thing, too.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: I know you'll hate this part, maybe, because I kind
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: of do. But the elections process and all the Board
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: of Elections, all the busy work they do. This is
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: another example. Trouble is pretty far behind everybody in the
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: software that gets rolled system and stuff. And, like, I
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: could point this thing at one county and say, okay,
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: study this and make me this, and now let's do
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: that same thing for Trumbull and all the other ones.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: And somebody could sit there and do an accounting of
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: the entire state of Ohio and have one system that
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: would handle all the elections in a month or two.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is happening here in a short period
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: of time is nothing short of amazing.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Is that a fair statement?
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I can't, you know, nobody asked me before
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: they did this. So before anybody gets angry about using
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: AI and all that, you know, I just woke up
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: one day and they said, look at this. And by
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: the way, you're out of work because we're going to
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: use AI for you. You know, so I was like, yeah.
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: And they said, oh, the hell you are. I've been
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: through this before. I need to retool, right? So I said,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: I'm just retooling and following what it's giving me. You
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: know what I mean?
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And they showed you the door.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I was kind.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: Of done anyway, and it was just like a convenient timing,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean? But that's what was happening.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: But AI replaced what you did, correct?
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: Part of it, yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Because they could hire young resources or less inexperienced resources,
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: and they could use AI to do things that I
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: would do. Now, you should see my brain in computer
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: science and AI combined. Okay, dude, this is some sick stuff.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean? Like, when I first started
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: this parcel thing, I had to turn off what I
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: used to call the FBI mode. I'm like, I don't
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: want to know that much. I just want to know
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: a parcel and, you know, its sale history and everything
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: that you can get today, public information. But because I
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: know all this stuff, Ron, like what it's doing behind
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: the scenes, if you have that combination of person, wow.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I mean, what this thing can do, because it can
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: do all of the busy work that you used to
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: actually do, but you're telling it and testing whether it
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: did it right. By the way, I don't trust a
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: single thing that it does yet. Everything is tested. I
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: don't even let it hit a webpage without testing. saying, okay,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: before it does it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: All right, but you've always been a smart guy on
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: this computer stuff. So do you find it, like Alec
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: was saying, do you find it amazing and it'll make
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: your life easier, but there's the aspect that is also
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: very troubling with AI?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Agree?
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, I am scared to death.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: And just tell me why.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I've got no other... Because I have, like Alex said,
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know where this is going. Like, and let's see,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: even if it's, you know, the data centers and all that,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: like I told you, I don't think this is good
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: for humanity. You know, we used to be agrarian and
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: everybody had a purpose because half of their purpose was
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: feeding themselves. Okay, but if you don't need people, look,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: that's all these countries are. They're just companies. You saw it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: How do you think all us Italians and other Eastern
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: Europeans ended up here? Because they needed labor, and the
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: people there were too happy to work real hard or
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: work doing what they needed, so they brought in a
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: bunch of people. Same thing they were trying to do now.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: This is just the next level of that, I fear.
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: And that's the part that, you know, I fear. But
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: it is what it is. You know, if you realize, like, Civilizations,
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: they rise and they fall all the time. So everybody's
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: always riding away.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: It would seem to me, as you guys talk, and
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: it would seem to me AI is going to be
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: a huge asset to your health. as you go get
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: over or you go to the doctor to be able
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: to do perhaps a better diagnosis than a doctor can do.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: You know, if you go, let's say..
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: We're talking today because of AI. Because they used AI
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: to figure out the DNA of a cancer that was
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: going on and they created a drug that would go
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: in and fight that.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And..
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: It seems to be working. And by the way, this
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: is not just happening to me. It's happening to tons
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: of people now. And so it may have, in some respects,
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: cured cancer to some degrees already.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm just saying you could go to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the dermatologist. They'll take a picture of all rashes look
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: the same to me. And potentially AI will say this
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: is what that is.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I do the same thing with weeds in my
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: yard before I touch them.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, it will tell you exactly what it is,
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: or AI will tell you if you put your symptoms
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: in or what's going on, what they think is wrong
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: with you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: A second opinion.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, there's people that are up in arms about this,
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: and I guess I understand where they're coming from because
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: it means big change, but it's the same. You know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: it's like somebody who owns a heating and cooling business
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: complaining about this. Right? Right. Because years ago, I mean,
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: they used all kinds of natural resources to heat our
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: homes and stuff, right? And you make a ton of
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: money on that. And it meant coal plants and all
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: this bullshit. So if you are yelling about that, anything
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: related to heating and cooling, you are a real hypocrite,
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  Speaker 5: in my opinion.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Well, there are plenty of people who are saying... the
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: amount of energy I said when I started the program
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: and I'll say it to you I opened my electric
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: bill today it was the highest electric bill I ever
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: had in my life all right granted we had some
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I mean we run our air conditioner it's at 72
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and I have I'm trying to think of you know
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: freezer refrigerators that kind of stuff but the highest electric
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: bill I ever had was today was $ 300 for the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: month And that last year would have been $ 150. That's
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: how much the cost of electricity has gone up. I mean,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: the usage is pretty close to the same. But the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: cost of the electrons has doubled. So my concern is, well,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you say that, but perhaps you use less electricity for
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: light bulbs. LEDs are more energy efficient than the old
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: light bulbs. Your plasma TV or your LED TVs are
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: less energy than your plasma. I mean, a lot of
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: things are way more energy efficient. Refrigerators, televisions, light bulbs.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, things have become more energy efficient, but you're
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: still using more. Somehow you use more energy and there's
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: more demand for it because of AI and because of
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Obama tearing all these coal plants down. I sat back
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: and I thought, well, where will the cost of electric
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: be next year?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Do you remember when you were young.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: And your parents got air conditioning, they were afraid to
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: turn it on because of the electric bill and what
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it was going to cost? I mean, that was back
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: in my day when I was young with my parents,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and there was always that concern. We're going to get
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: right back to that where it's going to be so
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: damn expensive to be comfortable in your own home because
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: the cost of energy is so high.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: You'll be thinking twice about it. And that's a sad day.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Ron, my parents didn't get air conditioning until I was
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: an adult and already moved out and had air conditioning
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: because they couldn't afford it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine like when these people came
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: over for soccer and they don't have air conditioning in
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: France or that kind of stuff. Even in a hospital
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: and you're sick and you got that heat and humidity
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff. I mean, it would really suck.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: And I say this often. John Kerry thought, well, we
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: got it too good in this country. John Kerry was
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: saying we should live more like they do in Europe. Basically,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: we shouldn't have air conditioning, that pompous ass, where you
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: know he would have it in his mansion, but he
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: thought the rest of us poppers shouldn't have it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: My only point, though, is that that is a user
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: of energy that's not necessarily necessary all the time, and
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: we use it because of the comfort. So anybody who
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: does that and complains about a data center, by the way,
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: I'm not for data centers.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: I think they should make them create their own energy.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You're going down bull crap road now with this. No,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: if my comforts, my air conditioning makes my life better.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: And it's more comfortable. Listen, as a kid, I grew
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: up and they didn't have central air. I remember, like
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: I said, when my dad brought this big air conditioner
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: home for the first time. But growing up as kids
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: with a fan in a bedroom on a hot, humid day,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: it wasn't easy to sleep and you were sweating.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Air conditioning made your life stand by for a second.
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I want to keep my thought. I got to give
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: him a piece of my mind. Ron Ver from the
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Kingdom of Mahoning.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Your one-stop WKBN.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: All right, so back to it. Listen, electricity for comfort
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: and making your house comfortable is worth it. I'm just
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: saying to you that pompous-ass John Kerry would like to
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: see the electricity be so expensive that you'd think twice
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: before turning on your air conditioning. And we're getting to
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: that point, I feel, because it's becoming so expensive. And
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: I believe it'll become even more expensive next year. year,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: supply and demand. Once again, because of that idiot Obama,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, and Biden with the green energy
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: of ripping down these regulating coal plants out of business
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: and requiring them to be ripped down with nothing to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: replace them, in addition to the amount of energy AI
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: is sucking up. I mean, you've got to have cheap
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: energy for people to be able to function, whether that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: gasoline or natural gas to eat your house or electricity.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: When it's all becoming so damn expensive and sucking up
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: so much of your money, it becomes a lifestyle dramatic
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: change and not for the better. So we better figure
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: this energy problem out really fast. And the people that
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: are concerned about A.I., I can't fault them for them
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: saying they're concerned about the amount of power that these
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: systems use, what it will cost them for their electric use,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: and the amount of water that it can use and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: how that water will be treated when they're done with it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I think some of the concerns that people are expressing
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: are legitimate concerns.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Do you agree?
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Oh, I totally agree. I think if you're going to
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: use energy, you should create it in such a way
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: that it does not disturb what's close to it. So
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: when you told me, oh, they could put up a
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: power plant back early and you started talking about it,
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: I said, do you remember when I said, well, can
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: we put it right next to Bird Manor? Put the
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: power plant next to Bird Manor? And you're like, yeah.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: So that part, yeah, I agree. I don't even care
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: if we have data centers or not. All I'm saying
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: is AI is there and it's not necessarily a data center.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: I could do AI on my local computer. It's just
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: how big you want it. But let me say one
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: thing I got to tell you before I sign off.
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: Do you know where the passion for politics is in
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: this town?
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Where?
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: Like you said, there's no..
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, where?
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: 570 WKBN.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I would agree with that.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I would agree.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Right? You should be there. That's why there's no passionate
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: people here. If you don't, you know, let's say you
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: weren't going to vote for whoever. Well, there's got to
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: be someone to vote for that. Otherwise, what's the use?
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: And if nobody runs, any schmuck gets in there.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Appreciate it, Mike. Thanks. Appreciate it, Guy. Back with more calls.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: We're here tonight till 6. Stay tuned. Ron Furb, it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: always a pleasure to check in with Mike Leonard out
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: of Burnham.