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  Underscore ant that's pro two hundred scores A and t in tonight's episode of disguise
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  coverage, pretty straightforward, pretty self explanatory. We are going to be diving
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  into Buffalo Bill's training camp and doing some stock up and stockdown. Stock Up
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  stockdown is a familiar theme here on the show, do it in season a
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  whole bunch pretty much in every episode in different forms or fashions. But what
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  I want to do with stock up stockdown in this episode is it's not just
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  individual player focused like I think a lot of the stock up stockdowns are.
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  We're gonna be looking at multiple pieces, so it's not just player pieces.
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  It'll be players, it'll be coaches, it'll be position groups, and a
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  lot of it will be schematic pieces as well. There have been some really
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  cool things on both sides of the ball, really offensively and defensively. That
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  granted, you know it's early on and it's a very small sample size and
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  it's still camps, so you know, I don't think I could overstate that
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  statement enough. So take all of this with a grain of salt to a
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  degree. But there are a lot of really fun, exciting things that we've
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  seen offensively and defensively from the Buffalo Bills thus far in camp. As we're
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  in the midst of week two, from a schematic standpoint, that are again
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  hits early. We're selling camp preseason hasn't even started yet, pads just to
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  pop in. But there's a lot of things that are really, really really
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  encouraging for this twenty twenty three season that we've seen already. Again, there's
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  been a common theme for me on this show throughout this offseason, and it's
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  been focusing on several schematic pieces that the Bills needed to get better with,
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  both offensively and defensively. Some of that stemmed from positional pieces and roster pieces
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  and talent or coaches, but at the end of the day, the excess
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  and os and the schematic parts and how they came together and how they were
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  going to be used and what buttons are going to be pushed on, what
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  dials are going to be turned. That was a huge focus for me this
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  offseason for this team and seeing what they were going to do in twenty twenty
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  three, and based on what we've seen in camp thus far, a lot
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  of very very very exciting pieces we're seeing to start to come together already again
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  early on. So you could take that with a grain of salt, or
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  you could say, hey, it's early on and we're already seeing it.
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  Maybe it gets even better, So remember how you slice it. Very excited
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  to dive into those pieces tonight and that'll be the theme for this episode.
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  And as always, as I say here on this show, from you folks,
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  I'll say this again during the entirety of the show. But questions,
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  thoughts, comments, concerns, philosophies, ideologies, maxims, anything and everything
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  that you folks have, feel free to throw them up into the chat.
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  Who has stood out for you? Who is trending down? Who is trending
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  up? It could be a who, it could be a what if you
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  have attended any of these bills open training camp practices and there's something that's stuck
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  out to you or something that stood out to you that's awesome, I want
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  to hear about it, throw it into the chat. I like to make
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  things as interactive and as engaging as possible on this show, especially on the
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  episodes where I ride solo and don't have a guest, like to night's episode.
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  So anything you folks got, throw it up in the chat. We
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  will be bringing up all these pieces throughout the show as much as I can
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  super chats as always get priority one because I respect the monetary donation. Two.
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  I see the change of color in the comments and it attracts my eyes
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  and I go through to it. Oh Man, Pop says he's been to
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  every practice. I respect it. I respect the hell out of that,
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  Pops, well done, well done. Sophie's here saying Hi, Hi,
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  Sophia, appreciate you being here. What al So RJ got a lot of
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  Oh, let's let's start from the beginning here, Chris, let's go Buffalo.
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  Appreciate you, Chris. RJ coming and saying stock down today was Dawkins
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  and Brown both had a rough goal of it. Yeah, the offensive line
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  had a bit of a down day today. If you're listening to this,
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  that would be August first, Tuesday, August first bit of a down day
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  for the offensive. Mine what you're going to get into to a degree,
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  and r J coming back with this stock up, which is Dalton Kincaid,
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  Trent Shurfield, Ed, Oliver Shack Lawson. I don't know why I was
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  gonna say, Manny Lawson that that would not be correct. Letard, Floyd,
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  Groot and Dorsey doing smart things. Wow. RJ you're complimenting Ken Dorsey.
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  I feel like this isn't the real ARJ. I feel like someone hijack
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  your account. Blink twice if you're in Milwaukee, or no, bark twice
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  if you're in Milwaukee. So close. R Jils was saying, also gave
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  Davis looked great today and Friday when I went to camp. Love seeing those
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  pieces. Oh good evening. Bill's Mafia from Brooklyn. What's up, Glad
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  you're joining. Appreciate your appreciate your appreciate you. John saying, I am
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  hearing that Kyle Allen is not looking good at camp. It's concerning me a
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  little bit. We need to backup quarterback that can at least win a couple
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  of games. He had a couple of good balls on Sunday. I would
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  say, but I mean the offense had a rough day to day in general.
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  But I don't think over overall he's been awful. To your point,
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  though, I'm always I would love to hedge my bets as much as I
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  can. I don't know if any team feels good about their backup quarterback situation.
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  I guess unless you're the Ravens with Tyler Huntley. But I I second
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  nd notion to a degree like I would like to know that if something were
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  to happen to Josh Allen, God forbid, you know for a couple of
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  games that the Bills have somebody back there who can prevent the wheels from falling
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  off. Oh Roy coming in with the theme early on, saying Elam possibly
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  a stock down candidate, Dane getting more reps with the first team. That
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  cornerback number two battle is definitely a focal point in this episode, and on
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  this episode we will be getting into that nice little bit of foreshadowing there from
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  mister Roy Colins Brandon saying we should get around of appause for our guy.
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  Aj Sobolski has done a phenomenal job reporting on everything he can throughout all camp.
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  Yat for him a couple one inter appreciate him. Shout him out Pops
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  who has been to every single training camp practice. Major shout out to Pops
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  for that. Pop says Kinkaide, Sherfield and Hardy are all great new pieces
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  to add to a good offense. Daniel coming in saying, I'm enthused by
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  the reports that Kincaid and Tolawrence are doing well. Always glad to hear good
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  things about the rookies. Lauren coming through. We got two Laurens. We're
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  having this first Lauren Laurence saying, I'm trying to temper expectations on Dalen Kinkaid,
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  but he doesn't look like a rookie out there. Yeah. Yeah,
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  he's been bawling out. We're gonna talk about him as well. Hey,
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  Lauren, what's up? Lauren is one of the best Twitter follows this.
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  Lauren here, no disuspect of the other Lauren, but Lauren here as a
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  tremendous Twitter follows well. Lauren says, the offensive line makes me so nervous
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  still with Morris's concussion history and age, I fear that if he goes down,
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  the season is over. What he provides to Josh can't be under stated.
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  Yeah, I'm a huge proponent of Mitch Morris here, whether it's on
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  Twitter, whether it's on this show. He's really a huge glue piece for
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  this offense. And I like how you tied it to Josh. You know,
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  a having a competent center from a physical standpoint, from an execution standpoint
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  is obviously like a huge important piece, but it's also that mental side of
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  it, like Morstan's ability to set protections and diagnose fronts and help Josh in
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  that regard, and then being able to set the offensive line and being a
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  lynchpin not just from an ability standpoint, but from a mental standpoint, a
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  football IQ standpoint. I think he's tremendously important to the Bill's offensive line.
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  The only thing that helps me feel a little bit better this year is knowing
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  that it more sort of go down for a little bit. The idea of
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  Okay, Ryan Bates could potentially kick into center and then Osiris Torrence is at
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  right guard. Again, that's provided that Osiris Torrens is able to do that
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  and doesn't look like an absolute disaster, which he has not so far,
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  which you're going to talk about a little bit. That negates my concern to
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  a degree. But yeah, I think Mitch Morris is one of the best
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  centers in football. He's one of the best movement centers, guys out in
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  space, athleticism, and then when you actually tied all together with who and
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  what he is from the shoulders up and in between the years, really really
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  is an absolutely tremendous player and would be a huge loss. So I think
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  that's a fair point. I think that's a fair point. Steve says,
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  baal in Spector Babylon around these parts has to be the fan favorite of camp.
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  Really, that's interesting. Interesting to note, interesting to note. Pop
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  says Dotson look good today. But who will be the middle linebacker? Also
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  a question? Also also a question. All right, let's dive into it.
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  So as I said, anything, questions, thoughts, I'll see Jessica
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  knowls at Steve double Yeah, it's bad's Babylon Spector on this show. We
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  recognize the name, but he's Babylon here. WHOA, I gotta stop.
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  We got a super chat. Oh, this is really cool. Justin one.
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  Thank you for being here too. Thank you very much for the Monterey
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  donation. Three really cool. Cony says it's a eleven AM Wednesday morning in
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  Australia. That's awesome. Dis Guy's coverage is global. Look at US breaking
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  time zones. We're in the future right now. This show is in the
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  future. I know that's not how time zones work, but for all intents
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  and purposes, right now, this show for me is existing simultaneously in the
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  past and in the present and also in the future. So that's how I
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  choose to diagnose this. Well, not Justin, I appreciate your being here,
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  Justin says again eleven am Wednesday morning in Australia. For us to get
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  to the Super Bowl, which player has to become elite? Oh? For
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  me, it's Gabe Davis. What say you aren't not including seventeen, fourteen
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  or forty? Keep up the good work. That's awesome, Justin. Again,
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  I appreciate you being here. I appreciate the super chat and the donation,
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  and I like the question too. So for the Bills to get to
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  the Super Bowl, which player has to become elite? Excluding Josh Allenstefon Diggs
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  or Von Miller. I think if the kind of words on the end,
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  saying cable the god work. I appreciate you, Justin. For just it's
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  Gabe Davis. Oh for me, for me, for me, for me.
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  I'm going to say at Oliver. I think who I want to say?
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  Someone on the offensive line, but I think we have enough pieces there
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  already. I'm gonna say at Oliver because I think if you have an interior
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  pass rush presence, there are a few things that are more disruptive to an
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  offensive rhythm than interior pass rush. And there's a multitude answers you could really
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  go with on this, Like I like your choice of Gabe Davis because then
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  if Gabe Davis is elite, now you have two elite weapons on the outside
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  with Diggs and Davis. What does that look like for opposing defenses? And
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  you still have to course correct and account for Josh Allen and his legs.
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  That's a whole another nightmare. But if aunt Oliver becomes elite on an interior
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  you've got that means you have an elite presence on the interior of your defensive
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  line. You have an elite presence on the edge with von Miller, you
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  know you already have one of the best secondaries in football. You have an
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  all Pro linebacker at the second level. That for me, would take this
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  team to the next level. I think there's enough pieces now on offense where
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  the bar has been raised for the floor if you gave me an elite pass
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  rushing presence on the interior of that defensive line. Again, like at Oliver,
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  it could be somebody else, right, but I think from a realistic
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  standpoint of who could still tap into some elite traits and ability, for me,
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  it would be at Oliver. And then all of a sudden and I
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  don't want to use this comp because he's gotten comp to him enough. But
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  you see what someone like Aaron Donald can do, or you know, go
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  to Kansas City with Chris Jones, or what Jeffrey Simmons does for the Tennessee
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  Titans, what quinnin Williams has done for the New York Jets. There's a
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  multitude of these game wreckers on the interior of the defensive line, across the
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  leade. What Fletcher Cox has done for years with the Eagles. I don't
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  even want to name to any guys because I'll leave somebody out and feel bad.
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  But when you have it an elite presence on the interior from a pass
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  rush standpoint, it's so disruptive to anything and everything an offense does. And
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  then you pair it with von Miller on the outside and an elite secondary on
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  the back end. That would for me who that would be really, really,
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  really troublesome for any offense. I like that. I like that.
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  I like that. Oh and Pete, see Pete recognized my analysis of time
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  zones as he said, that's how time zones were exactly. Pete. I
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  appreciate you. You're a scientist you understand. Thank you very much, appreciate
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  appreciate it. Oh, Johnny coming in saying worried about the protection scheme not
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  just the players. Interesting, Maybe we'll talk about that a little as this
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  show goes forward. As I have said, and we've already gotten into a
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  little bit of it here now, but I see more people starting to trickle
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  in questions, thoughts, comments, concerns, philosophies, ideologies, maxims,
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  theorems, anything and any of everything that you folks have throwed up into the
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  chat. I like to make the show as interactive as possible. Again,
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  especially when I'm ride and solo, so throw anything up into the chat.
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  I'll bring up as many comments as I can as we go through the show,
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  super chats like Justin's a minute ago. Again, thank you Justin for
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  being here and for a really good question, and for the donation as well.
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  Appreciate you. Any super chat will automatically get pulled up because I respect
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  the donation, and the color attracts my eyes and takes me away from my
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  notes, and as we go through this whole stock up, stock down piece
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  of what I have. If you agree, let me know. If you
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  disagree, let me know, if you have one from yourself, you know
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  something that you've noticed in camp, all of these pieces, let me know,
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  throw it up into the chat and we'll go from there. Jason coming
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  in and saying where are you off? Kinkaid goes for sixty receptions, eight
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  hundred plus yards and five touchdowns. So Jason has a Kincaid comment. We
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  had a Kincaid comment earlier from Lauren saying she was trying to temper expectations on
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  Dalin Kinkaid, but he doesn't look like a rookie out there. RJ had
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  some thoughts on Dalin Kinkaid. That's where we're going to start a little bit
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  here with this first segment. We're gonna stock up talk about the good things,
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  right, because that's fun. It's a good way to start. So
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  one of the first pieces for the stock up piece that I want to talk
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  about, and you know, I had a second in my notes about lead
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  off with it here just because we got another comment from it and it ties
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  to one of the players who are in the graphic here. So the first
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  piece I want to talk about the stock up is the twelve personnel that the
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  Bills have showcased early on in training camp, and not just the usage of
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  it. For me, it's been the formational variations that we've seen within twelve
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  personnel and Jason answer your QUESTIONNAIREA, If Kinkaid goes for sixty catches, eight
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  hundred plus yards and five touchdowns, I am very happy that's that. I
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  think those are very good, strong rookie tight end numbers, especially considering Diggs
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  is going to have a monster target share. Gabe Davis will be healthy in
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  that regard, Dawson Knox will be in there, and then we'll see what'll
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  we get from Hardy in Sherefield and all that. Those I think would be
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  healthy numbers for a rookie tight end in Dalin Kincaid my main thing, and
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  I'll just say it tying into this, I'm not looking for a particular I
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  see a lot of people throwing out like predictions of what they want to see
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  from Kincaid or you know, targets or snaps or catches or yards or touchdowns,
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  and I don't think that's wrong or necessarily think that's bad for me.
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  I'm looking more of how he's used, where he's used, and when he's
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  used, the matchup piece that he is, and the matchup advantage that he
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  creates for the Bill's offense, I think you could really lean into him third
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  downs and red zones. I want to see what he looks like. So
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  if he goes into a game and he only has four targets and four catches
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  for thirty nine yards from a rosstat perspective, you look at that and you're
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  like, oh, that day kind of sucks. But if three of those
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  catches were on third downs and they went for first downs, and the fourth
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  catch was for a touchdown in the red zone because they got him matched up
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  with a nickel corner and let him use his size and catch radius to beat
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  him in the end zone or take advantage of a big nickel or linebacker,
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  whatever have you. That's really what I'm looking for with Daldon Kincaide. He
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  has such a unique skill set and fit into this offense. I want to
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  see how he's used and how his skill set translates as a rookie to the
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  NFL. So not so much concerned about the raw stats as I am the
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  usage. But Jason, if it's your question there, if he put up
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  those numbers, I'd be happy. I would be happy. I'd be happy
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  I'd be happy. So this first piece, again, as I mentioned the
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  twelve personnel, it's the formational variations that we've seen already from Ken Dorsey and
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  this Bill's offense. I noted it on Sunday, I put out a tweet
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  about it, and it's still something that's really just stuck in my head because
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  it's been a consistent piece that we've seen early on in camp. You know,
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  they're with the Bills users of the diamond formation when they were in twelve
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  personnel, and then all these things what we have seen has been you know,
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  you'll get Dawson Knox in the backfield lined up as the running back.
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  You'll get Dalton Kincaid in the backfield as an h or an offset fullback.
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  You'll get Kincaid as the number three third man from you know, the outside
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  from the sideline there as the number three receiver in a three buy one look,
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  and then Knox is the solo number one on the other side. You'll
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  see each of them on the opposite ends of the tackles, book ending each
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  tackle, creating a traditional seven man surface. You'll see Knox as the attached
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  you know why inline tight end and Kincaid hipped off of him. Then there's
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  all the shifts and the motions for both of them, both two and from
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  condensed looks to spread looks or spread looks two condensed looks or seeing short motion,
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  we're seeing exploded sets, We're seeing changes on the fly. It's really
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  nice to see how much Ken Dorsey. Again, this is very early on
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  and we're only in camp. This could all be gone or not even in
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  use by week two, week three, or it could be even better.
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  So again, just putting it out there right now. This doesn't guarantee anything,
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  but it's very good to see in the early stages of camp. As
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  we're in the middle of week two now, it's good to see how much
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  Ken Dorsey is turning the different dials with this personnel package in order to create
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  mismatches or advantageous looks or easy buttons for the offense. With the tight ends.
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  It's more creativity than just simply being like, well, this guy is
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  going to be the why, and this guy is going to be the ffor
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  the movement tight end, and you know, here's what we're gonna do.
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  It really seems like Dorsey's having fun with this. He's getting creative and This
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  is what the whole piece of why twelve personnel is exciting, especially for me,
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  and again I've said it throughout this entire offseason. I think twelve personnel
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  is the ultimate dictation tool or piece or formation wherever verbige you want to use
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  foreign offense. In today's NFL, where so many defenses are built two limit
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  explosives in the past game, whether it's the two high coverage structures pre snap
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  or post snap, whether it's light boxes, whether it's nickel personnel, whatever,
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  or the combination of all three of those things, which is usually what
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  you see in modern NFL defenses. Twelve personnel makes defenses have to account for
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  a variety of things because twelve personnel in and of itself as a formation that
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  if you have two tight ends that can both function in the run and in
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  the past, twelve personnel becomes a formation that doesn't really have a lot of
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  tells and doesn't really have a lot of tendencies to it because you can get
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  to almost anything and everything anytime you want. You can run the ball,
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  you can pass the ball, you can go play action and take a shot,
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  you can go spread. You know, you can line up in a
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  seven man service and then check at the line and all of a sudden you
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  can go two by two out of gun, or then take James Cook and
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  motion them out and go full spread with a three two or you know,
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  a four strong formation. There's so many things you can really lean into.
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  The run game is so diverse because of what you can do with attaching those
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  tight ends of the line or hipping them off the line. You can get
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  to any kind of run. You can go weak side zone, you can
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  go outside zone, you can go downhill withinside zone. You can run duo,
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  you can run gap schemes. There's so much you can do from a
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  creativity standpoint. So much of the menu is more available to you without having
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  to turn the page of that same menu. So twelve personnel is very exciting,
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  but again you still need you know, that puppetmaster pulling the strings,
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  who's using that personnel grouping, and those players within that personnel grouping to their
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  fullest, and what we've seen so far, again it's early on, but
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  Dorsey using these formations and using motion and using shifts at the line of scrimmage
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  and all these pieces in conjunction with one another or sometimes you know, isolated
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  from one another. He's using them to create advantages for the offense. He's
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  using them to create matches in situations where it's not a guarantee, but it's
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  a It's a relatively easy button for Josh Allen to press because he can see
• 21:07
  the matchup, he can diagnose the coverage pre snap, he sees who is
• 21:11
  matched up against who, and he knows what the skill set looks like and
• 21:15
  he's able to find that guy and push that button. So it's nice to
• 21:17
  see those pieces early on. Now going into that twelve personnel piece, Dalon
• 21:25
  Kincaid, I've been extremely impressed with Dalon Kincaid. His pro readiness, I
• 21:32
  don't think is something that I anticipated and I was high on him coming out.
• 21:37
  The athleticism, the ball skills, the catch radius, the fluidity,
• 21:41
  the technicality, the understanding of how to read coverages and how to read things
• 21:47
  you know when they change from pre to post snap as an ability to his
• 21:49
  ability to find space. But all of it's just coming together, like even
• 21:53
  just something when you know Josh Allen throws a ball to him on the move
• 21:57
  and he's got to extend a little bit, like he catches it and brings
• 22:00
  it in and tucks it down, and you don't see him stumble, you
• 22:03
  don't see him change his gait or his stride, Like it's all just functional,
• 22:07
  fluid athleticism, and you see it repeatedly. Or you watch him run
• 22:11
  routes and stack a safety or stack a defender and then break down quickly and
• 22:17
  get out of his cut on a square in and just lets his man run
• 22:21
  by as he breaks free. You're seeing consistent hands, You're seeing him find
• 22:23
  space. You're seeing him work back to the football consistently. For Josh Allen
• 22:29
  or anybody who's throwing him the ball. Like there's times where he finds space
• 22:32
  in the zone and he's between two defenders and the quarterback puts the ball on
• 22:37
  him, and he knows where those defenders are, and he'll come back a
• 22:40
  couple of steps or sometimes several steps in order to pluck that thing out of
• 22:42
  the air and make it his His pro readiness is higher than what I initially
• 22:48
  thought it would be. And so Dalon Kinkaid's stock is way way way up
• 22:52
  the twelve personnel package overall, I would think that stock is way way way
• 22:56
  up. But I came away really impressed with Dalton Kinkaid thus far in camp
• 22:59
  and seeing him in person and watching how he's been operating and how he's translating
• 23:04
  the NFL again is early on. Pad's haven't really fully popped. You haven't
• 23:08
  play faced an a pony yet or any of these things. But he's showing
• 23:12
  really well in a very encouraging form and fashion or from the jump. He
• 23:17
  hit the ground running last week Wednesday, and it's just gotten better every single
• 23:21
  day and every single day. Johnny saying, what are your honest thoughts on
• 23:26
  Kincaid's blocking? How bad is it? I don't think he's a bad blocker.
• 23:29
  I think I've said this on the show before. I think you're when
• 23:33
  you're a tight end who is labeled as a receiving threat or as a pass
• 23:38
  catcher, as you're like Maine or top tier skill set. I think there's
• 23:42
  an immediate assumption that happens, whether consciously or unconsciously subconsciously, that it means
• 23:49
  all, okay, well, like he's a receiving tight end, it means
• 23:52
  he must not be a good blocker. I'm not going to sit here and
• 23:53
  say that Kincaid is a plus blocker and he's a guy that you want blocking
• 23:57
  all the time. But I don't think he's deficient, and I don't think
• 24:00
  he's a liability or a vulnerability. He is a First of all, he's
• 24:04
  a willing blocker, which is more than half the battle. Like blocking,
• 24:08
  So much of it is just the sense of urgency and the desire to block,
• 24:12
  the physicality, the mindset they want to the need like that, that's
• 24:17
  what it is, and he has that piece. Second, he's so he's
• 24:22
  not a people mover. He's more of a shepherd. He's more of an
• 24:23
  escorter or somebody that will kind of impede his man. But if you're asking
• 24:27
  him to dig out a safety or asking him to dig out nickel corner or
• 24:30
  crackdown on a linebacker, like he'll do that. And where he's got to
• 24:34
  work on pieces is okay. You know, if he is lined up attached
• 24:37
  to the formation as the inline tight end or as that why and he has
• 24:41
  to block down on a defensive end, can he do it right? Can
• 24:45
  he handle going up against the more physical linebackers like a Jawan Bentley from the
• 24:48
  Patriots, for example. So I don't think it's blocking is bad. I
• 24:52
  don't think it's as strong as as the receiving aspect of his game, which
• 24:56
  again doesn't mean his blocking is bad. It's just that his receiving chops are
• 25:00
  so high and so highly touted that everything else is going to kind of not
• 25:04
  necessarily fall by the wayside, but not get talked about as much or overlooked
• 25:10
  to a degree. So I don't think he's a plus blocker, but I
• 25:11
  also don't think he's bad. I also don't think he's deficient. He's not
• 25:15
  somebody that you're like, well, we can't run this because Kincaid can't block,
• 25:18
  or well we can't get to this because he won't block. That is
• 25:21
  not the case. It's something that he needs to work on and improve with.
• 25:23
  And again this is something that Dawson Knox had to do as well.
• 25:26
  Dawson Knox has improved as a blocker in his tenure with the Buffalo Bills,
• 25:30
  and he came in not as a good blocker. I think working with their
• 25:33
  tight ends coach Rob Boris he does a really good job. Somebody who has
• 25:38
  experienced working with guys like Greg Olsen and that tight end room back in the
• 25:44
  day, and you know, seeing the progression that Greg Olson had coming out
• 25:47
  of Miami is just more of a receiving base tight end and not really physical
• 25:52
  and then going to combing one of legitimately one of the best overall like tight
• 26:02
  ends in his tenure in the NFL, just seeing what he was able to
• 26:07
  do when you know, working with again, working with their tight end coach
• 26:10
  Rob Boris in Chicago when Olson was there before he went to Carolina. I
• 26:14
  think they have a good tight end coach in the room, and you know,
• 26:18
  I think he'll get the most out of Concaid. So I don't think
• 26:19
  it's blocking is bad at all, and I do not think at all.
• 26:23
  Oh John says red zone efficiency was a sneaky, concerning issue last year,
• 26:29
  or at least felt that way leaning on Alan so much. Have you seen
• 26:32
  anything so far in camp that shows their addressing slash changing that? So first,
• 26:36
  I do think their red zone functionality got better as the year went on.
• 26:41
  This was something that myself and air Turner diagnosed and broke down early in
• 26:45
  the season. And when you look at the holistically the season as a whole,
• 26:48
  like, their red zone numbers were not good, Like from a DBA
• 26:51
  perspective, from a touchdown percentage perspective, it was clunky. It was just
• 26:53
  joined at times. Some of that isn't all on Alan, I'm sorry,
• 26:56
  it's an online Ken Dorsey. Some of it is on Alan's decision making,
• 27:00
  but you get into a bit of a chicken egg scenario. I do think
• 27:03
  though, as the season went on last year, the red zone offense got
• 27:07
  better so far in camp. Yeah, I think the twelve personnel piece is
• 27:11
  one that helps not to continue to bang that drum. But the twelve personnel
• 27:15
  piece in the red zone is a huge match of advantage piece. We're already
• 27:19
  starting to see that a little bit early on in camp. But I think
• 27:22
  what's more encouraging in the red zone has been just the use of different personnel
• 27:26
  groupings, the usage of motion and shifts, and the usage of the run
• 27:30
  game and what kind of runs they're getting to. So I do think they
• 27:34
  I think they started to address and change some things as the season went on
• 27:38
  last year, and I think they've continued on that path thus far in camp,
• 27:41
  and I expect a better red zone. I expect a better red zone
• 27:45
  performance from an efficiency standpoint from the Buffalo Bills this year. Pete saying Kinkaid
• 27:56
  will be in during eleven personnel and likely wouldn't be any worse than Quentin Morris
• 27:59
  was. And what's an also a piece two right, like the whole twelve
• 28:02
  personnel thing. And this is something like I've said the statement a bunch now,
• 28:04
  like I keep saying, like I've said this on the show before,
• 28:07
  the fun thing when you have when you have two tight ends like Knox and
• 28:11
  Kincaid, right, two guys who can function in the run and in the
• 28:14
  past, you can be in twelve personnel and be in traditional twelve personnel looks
• 28:19
  where again both tight ends are attached to the line of scrimmage and you have
• 28:22
  a seven man's surface book ending the tackles, or one's attached and one is
• 28:27
  hipped off that guy you know, or another formation into the boundary. All
• 28:30
  these pieces you can have more traditional twelve personnel looks, or because of the
• 28:36
  athleticism that Kincaid gives you and Knox really too, you can be in twelve
• 28:41
  right, but be in traditional eleven personnel alignments and formations like I mentioned earlier,
• 28:48
  like one of the ones that they were really getting into Sunday that I
• 28:49
  really liked was they were just in a three by one, but Kincaid was
• 28:52
  the number three like, so Kincaid was in like the Cole Beasley spot,
• 28:56
  and then Knox was solo on the other side, you know, exploded out
• 29:00
  by himself. So all of these pieces you can lean into when you've got
• 29:03
  the tight ends like the Bills have with in Kincaid, you can be in
• 29:07
  twelve and run traditional twelve personnel formations and plays, but you can also live
• 29:14
  in an eleven personnel world by schematic design and play call and alignment and formation
• 29:19
  even though you are, you know, in twelve personnel. Being in twelve
• 29:25
  personnel last year with like Knox and Tommy Sweeney, you couldn't run eleven personnel
• 29:30
  formations and packages and plays and things like that in concepts. Now you still
• 29:33
  can't because Kincaid, for as much as he is a tight end, he
• 29:36
  is also basically a receiver. So I think that's a very very very encouraging
• 29:40
  piece. Question. Do you believe that the coaching staff is finally bought completely
• 29:45
  in twelve personnel? I do. I think they wanted to buy into it
• 29:48
  last year. I think they brought in OJ Howard because they wanted twelve personnel
• 29:52
  and then it didn't work out. Ken Dorsey his time in Miami. Granted
• 29:56
  was a different game of football back then, but when he was a quarterback
• 30:00
  at the University of Miami, multiple tight end sets were a huge part of
• 30:04
  that offense. This was a guy who was playing with Jeremy Shockey and Kellen
• 30:07
  Winslow and they were in more pro personnel packages. And then where he cut
• 30:12
  his teeth learning on how to run an offense in the NFL, where when
• 30:18
  he cut his teeth with Carolina, that was a team again, the team
• 30:22
  that was going to the Super Bowl with the Carolina Panthers, with Cam Newton,
• 30:25
  Greg Olson, and Ed Dixon. They were running a lot of two
• 30:27
  tight end sets. So if you go to his playing days through to where
• 30:30
  he cut his teeth as a coach, and also again tying it into the
• 30:36
  bigger picture for me, which is twelve personnel being a dictation tool in today's
• 30:41
  NFL. Given the patterns and trends that we're seeing with NFL defenses, I
• 30:45
  think they wanted to buy into twelve last year. I think if OJ Howard
• 30:48
  had worked out, you would have seen a lot more twelve last year.
• 30:52
  In a similar way to how the Chiefs last year. We're going with a
• 30:55
  bunch of twelve and a bunch of thirteen. Granted some of those numbers are
• 30:57
  skewed because Travis Kelsey is one of those tight ends. But for what the
• 31:02
  Chiefs were doing last year with a lout of twelve and thirteen, I think
• 31:04
  you will have seen that from the bills last year had Oj Howard worked out.
• 31:07
  So yes, I do think they're bought into it, and they just
• 31:11
  needed that personnel piece and like an adult and kincaide to allow them to fully
• 31:15
  get to there. Oh Johnsons, thanks so much for answering my question.
• 31:19
  No, of course, ps I run discontinued foods on Twitter and try to
• 31:23
  boost the bills whenever possible. Keep up the great working, I said,
• 31:26
  Oh, I appreciate you, John. They give to stop by and I
• 31:27
  know that Twitter. That's awesome. It's one of the most interesting ones.
• 31:30
  Yeah, Lawrence says it too, like I love the discontinued food page.
• 31:33
  That's awesome. Thank you so much. Oh man, that's awesome done.
• 31:38
  Seven one six says I think they've been trying yeah, see with twelve personalel
• 31:41
  piece. I think they've been trying to do this since Stable Sweeney didn't work
• 31:45
  out, and neither did Moss while Moss was on tight end. But I
• 31:48
  get where you're going, and this is or maybe meant Morris. I like
• 31:52
  quent Morris though, but to dine all together with that twelve personnel piece,
• 31:55
  and this is something I want to mention too. And they're gonna move on
• 31:56
  to our next stock up piece. The Bills haven't had the horses to run
• 32:01
  twelve personnel before this season. I forgot who made a comment something one of
• 32:08
  the notes I made on Sunday, I think when I tweeted out some stuff
• 32:12
  from Day four, and one of the comments was, oh, you know,
• 32:14
  like, let's see if Dorsey can finally do something with twelve personnel,
• 32:16
  you know this year, YadA YadA, something along those lines. And it
• 32:20
  came off as though like he should have been doing more twelve personnel last year.
• 32:24
  And no disrespect to Tommy Sweeney or Quintin Morris, the Bills didn't have
• 32:29
  the tight ends last year that made you go, you know what, we
• 32:30
  should run more twelve again. No disrespect to Tommy Sweeney, no disrespect to
• 32:35
  Quintin Morris. Quintin Morris, neither of those guys are the type of tight
• 32:38
  ends where you say, you know what we got to get those guys on
• 32:42
  the field more right, I don't think that's the case, and I like
• 32:45
  them miss tight end threes or tight end force potentially, But now that they
• 32:49
  have the horses, I think you'll get into more of it, and like
• 32:52
  like this comment says, like I think they've been trying to do this since
• 32:54
  Stable Sweeney didn't work out. You know, we'll see what happens. I
• 32:58
  do think they wanted it last year with j Howard and it did not.
• 33:01
  It did not work. Awesome comment from Steve. Having two solid tight ends
• 33:06
  at having the ability to run twelve personnel makes a defense have to make a
• 33:08
  big decision on their personnel and it creates major mismatches. Absolutely, absolutely,
• 33:14
  absolutely, I don't even want to go down like the rabbit hole where I
• 33:17
  wax poetically or non poetically on the mismatch pieces. I've said it so much
• 33:22
  on the show, but yeah, absolutely, you are you are right there,
• 33:25
  You are right there, you are right there. Another piece in the
• 33:30
  stock up, Sidbrels, We'll stay on the offensive side of the ball.
• 33:34
  Stefan Diggs man, I just how locked in Stefan Diggs is right now,
• 33:42
  is legitimately truly impressive. The precision with which he's operated on every single rep,
• 33:47
  whether an individual or team, has been so fun to see. We
• 33:52
  we know at this point how driven of a guy he is and how hard
• 33:55
  he works. He works extremely hard, and I say it all the time
• 33:59
  that he's a player who truly hons his craft as a wide receiver. The
• 34:02
  technicality with which he operates. You watch him run any kind of route,
• 34:07
  and even the simplest route or a hard round, he makes it look simple,
• 34:10
  but you can tell the dedication and the effort that he puts into honing
• 34:14
  his craft as a professional wide receiver. But man, you just just so
• 34:20
  far in camp. It just looks like he's dialed in even further. Like
• 34:22
  he's always playing at a super Saian level, but this camp he's just come
• 34:25
  in and played at super Saian level. Two. He's taken his high level
• 34:29
  of play and execution and pushed it even further. You're seeing the players that
• 34:35
  you know, and people may say, you know, Trey White isn't fully
• 34:37
  back yet, but I think Tray started to improve as the season when along
• 34:40
  last year and then coming into this year, he's healthier and he's had some
• 34:45
  good reps on Sunday, specifically, there was three straight raps where it was
• 34:50
  one on ones and Digs just owned tray rap after rap after rap, and
• 34:54
  then he had some really good own hitch on some other guys once they got
• 34:58
  the team. He had a nice touchdown yesterday against Tarn Johnson, who Tarn
• 35:02
  has had a phenomenal camp so far. Dig shook the hell out of him,
• 35:06
  got him to bite on an outside move, slipped in underneath, caught
• 35:08
  it on a slant, took it for a touchdown. Diggs has just truly
• 35:13
  been phenomenal in this camp and Laurens comment is so spot on saying Diggs doesn't
• 35:15
  do anything halfassed, Absolutely not. Everything Stefon Diggs does is one hundred miles
• 35:20
  an hour, one hundred percent of the time, whether it's on the field,
• 35:23
  whether it's working out, whether it's training, whatever, film study.
• 35:28
  Everything he does is better to the metal, everything one hundred miles an hour,
• 35:32
  one hundred percent of the time. He doesn't do anything halfass, which
• 35:35
  is why every game and every outcome means so much to him and why they're
• 35:38
  so much invested because he puts all of himself into this game and his production
• 35:44
  and this team and just watching him come out, Yeah, he is dominating
• 35:47
  on every rep, Like I would dare anyone to find more than Like,
• 35:54
  if you could count on more than one hand the amount of times he's lost
• 35:58
  a rep, I would be surprised. Like he is just winning against anyone
• 36:01
  and everyone that they put in front of, whether it's individual, whether it's
• 36:05
  team, whatever it is. He's out there cooking everybody left and right,
• 36:07
  and it just looks like he is completely laser lock focused, dialed in to
• 36:13
  everything that is going on right now. And I think that's also really awesome
• 36:15
  to see, especially considering, you know, he missed day one of mandatory
• 36:21
  mini camp and how much of a stir that that caused and that created.
• 36:23
  So I think to see him if you had any questions about his dedication or
• 36:29
  where his head was at, seeing how well he has performed thus far in
• 36:34
  camp should be tremendously comforting to you and encouraging you, because he is,
• 36:37
  again one thousand percent dialed in, and every time he's on the field,
• 36:42
  he looks like the best player on the field, and no one looks like
• 36:44
  they're even in his stratosphere. He's been crushing it on every single rep so
• 36:47
  big ups to mister Stefan digs his stock is through the moon, through the
• 36:52
  Moon to the Moon, through the roof. Yike's fallen apart another stock up
• 36:57
  piece. Defensive side of the ball structural schematic. This is something that no,
• 37:02
  it's up there with the twelve personelpiece. This next piece for me is
• 37:06
  what I'm arguably most excited about thus far in camp, and it's Bills defense
• 37:09
  related. It's been their blitzes and their pressure looks. If you are a
• 37:15
  regular listener of this show, I have talked, or if you listen to
• 37:17
  the Lockdown Bills episode in which I appeared with mister Joe Marino, or listen
• 37:22
  to myself and Eric turn around the film room again. This has been a
• 37:24
  common theme for me this entire offseason. Talking about the nature of what this
• 37:30
  Buffalo Bills defense would be and who they would be under Sean McDermott has been
• 37:35
  a huge focus for me this entire offseason because I think you take the basic
• 37:39
  structural foundation of what they've been the last several years, which has allowed them
• 37:43
  to be consistently around like a top five defense every single year, year in
• 37:46
  and year out. But you take that structural piece, and then you just
• 37:50
  tweak some things and turn some dials and push a couple of different buttons and
• 37:53
  pull some levers here and there, and you have the ability to change what
• 37:58
  you are whole list sticky on the defensive side of the ball in order to
• 38:01
  combat top tier offenses and not seeing his outmatched come playoff times, come playoff
• 38:07
  time. And one of those pieces for me was the aggressive nature of Sean
• 38:10
  McDermott and who he was as a defensive coordinator in Carolina and in Philadelphia and
• 38:16
  coming from that Jim Johnson Tree, and we are seeing that thus far in
• 38:21
  camp. We are seeing more stimulated pressures. We're seeing more regular blitzes.
• 38:25
  We're seeing pressure being shown and then everybody dropping out. That's how Jordan Poyer
• 38:30
  got an interception on Josh Allen and the low red zone on Sunday. We're
• 38:35
  seeing aggression. We're seeing a fast, physical, attack minded defense that is
• 38:40
  also playing mind games with the offense. All things that we've talked about on
• 38:45
  this show as being pieces to expect to see from a Sean McDermott led Buffalo
• 38:50
  Bill's defense in twenty twenty three, and again, all these pieces are showing
• 38:52
  up early. You're seeing overloaded blitzes. You're seeing you know, mugged up
• 38:57
  a gaps and they're bringing it. And because they're bringing it, the threat
• 39:00
  of that blitz actually happening becomes real, which means the offense has to check
• 39:06
  and the offense has to adjust to it, which means the defense can then
• 39:09
  adjust to the offense's adjustment. And then you start to see that back and
• 39:13
  forth. You see that teeter totter, you see that pendulum swing, the
• 39:16
  chess match. That is the mind games that happen in football, and the
• 39:21
  defense has been winning them consistently. And again it's camp, but it's nice
• 39:25
  to see Sean McDermott already turning those dials and leaning into those pieces because I
• 39:30
  think that is how when you start to dictate to an offense, and that's
• 39:34
  what the Bill's defense could potentially do with the personnel that they have and the
• 39:37
  type of defensive coordinator Sean McDermott has been in the past. That's how this
• 39:42
  team can finally get over the hump from a defensive standpoint come playoff time.
• 39:46
  It's not enough to just have and I talked about this in an episode several
• 39:52
  weeks ago. It's not enough anymore just to be like, you know,
• 39:53
  well we're a cover two team, or you know we're a quarters team,
• 39:57
  or when you know we're a cover three team, we're going to really lean
• 39:59
  into and it will have a couple variations, but that's who we are at
• 40:01
  our core. It's not enough to have that anymore. You have to,
• 40:06
  like I say, all throughout the entire year, going back to last officeason,
• 40:08
  you have to play rock paper scissors. And when you play rock paper
• 40:12
  scissors, you have to be able to throw all three. You cannot just
• 40:15
  come out week after week and throw rock and throw rock and throw rock.
• 40:19
  You need to be multiple. You need to be varied in your attack.
• 40:22
  And what this builds defense is shown already is more multiplicity on the defensive side
• 40:27
  of the ball and more of an attack mindset that allows them to mitigate what
• 40:34
  an offense does or dictate to them from a protection standpoint or from a coverage
• 40:38
  standpoint. And all of a sudden, you're not just changing the pre to
• 40:42
  post nap picture on the back end. You're changing the pre to post nap
• 40:45
  picture underneath with the front seven and with the defensive line, and with the
• 40:47
  box like, then you can start to really play more mind games, let
• 40:52
  alone, if you're actually able to get pressure or confuse your protection scheme or
• 40:57
  dictate to the offense, then you know, keep in a tight end or
• 41:00
  running back to protect and then psych we're not actually blitzing, and now you
• 41:04
  just wasted another guy in the route distribution and now we have more of a
• 41:07
  numbers advantage of coverage. All of these pieces that start with being varied,
• 41:15
  being fluid in your approach and attack on defense, but then also having that
• 41:19
  aggressive piece to it. This builds defense year after year. Is one of
• 41:22
  the best defenses in the NFL. Truly, especially in the regular season.
• 41:25
  They're a great coverage unit. They're sound, but they've been leaning so much
• 41:30
  into you know, we're gonna make you beat us. We're gonna make you
• 41:32
  beat us. We're gonna make you beat us. What we've seen so far
• 41:36
  in camp and this is something that I think they need to show more of
• 41:38
  for this year. We've seen them change a little bit and instead of just
• 41:42
  being like, we're gonna make you beat us and see if you can,
• 41:45
  they've come out this camp on defense and said, you know what, we're
• 41:47
  gonna beat you like, see if you can survive, and that's fantastic.
• 41:52
  Instead of just having a not necessarily a solo identity because they haven't had that,
• 41:58
  but instead of having one kind of theme or structure and saying like,
• 42:01
  this is who we are, try and beat us, I think you're going
• 42:05
  to see more of we're going to be whoever we need to in order to
• 42:07
  beat you. And the aggressive nature and the blitzing and the disguise blitzes and
• 42:15
  the simulated pressures and everything they've been doing up front and showing pressure and dropping
• 42:19
  out. I think it's one of the early steps in the process for this
• 42:23
  defense, and I think it's tremendously tremendously encouraging, and it's been working.
• 42:28
  It worked today. The Bills are generating a ton of pressure. They were
• 42:30
  confusing the offensive line, they were confusing the quarterbacks, they were confusing protection
• 42:35
  schemes and adjustments, and this for me tied into what they've done the past
• 42:38
  several days too. You saw the Bills showing pressure a lot, especially in
• 42:43
  the red zone, in team, especially on third downs, but overall in
• 42:45
  general, you saw them showing pressure and showing, you know, a cover
• 42:50
  zero look and everybody's on the line and they bring it. Then they show
• 42:52
  the same thing again and they drop out, and they'd only rush for they'd
• 42:55
  only rush five. And then you're seeing guys like Aja Panessa and Leonard Floyd
• 43:00
  drop off into the flats or into the hook curls and being in a passing
• 43:04
  window. We're a passing lane where the quarterback didn't think they were going to
• 43:07
  be and that's leading to a sack, or it's leading to an incompletion,
• 43:09
  or it's leading to hesitation or extra beats that the quarterback has to Oh,
• 43:15
  he wants to throw away at one and a half seconds, but now he
• 43:17
  has to keep it to two and a half because he has to find somebody
• 43:20
  else because Ajpanessa just dropped underneath that slant and he thought it was going to
• 43:24
  be there, and now it's not, and that windows closed, so where
• 43:27
  else does he have to go? And now he has to scan and get
• 43:30
  through the rest of his progressions. It's all of these pieces that connect and
• 43:34
  seeing what we've seen thus far from the Bill's defense again early on, very
• 43:37
  encouraging. We're seeing more attack minded nature, we're seeing more blitzes, we're
• 43:42
  seeing more pressure looks, and then we're seeing the mind games offshoot from those
• 43:45
  blitzes and pressure looks, because all you have to do is bring in a
• 43:49
  couple of times, make an offense, think that this is what you're going
• 43:53
  to do. You just have to bring it a couple of times, and
• 43:55
  then once you do that, the threat of it is forever real from then
• 44:00
  on out, so you don't have to keep blitzing. You know, you
• 44:02
  can show that cover zero look one time and bring it and have it cause
• 44:06
  a problem. That's it. You're golden. So the next time you show
• 44:08
  it, you don't have to bring it again because you already did and it
• 44:12
  worked. The threat of it is real. Now you can show it and
• 44:15
  drop out and run a simulated out of it, or not even run a
• 44:17
  simulating, just run a traditional format and drop out and run Covered two behind
• 44:22
  it, whatever the hell you want to do. The threat of it,
• 44:24
  the threat of the pressure, the threat of the blitz, has been established.
• 44:29
  And once that is established, then you start to play those mind games
• 44:32
  and then push different buttons, pull different levels, levers, turn different dials,
• 44:37
  and that's where it starts to get really exciting. And that's all something
• 44:39
  that Sean McDermott is very confident with and very competent in terms of that arena,
• 44:45
  so very exciting, very excited for that. Roy says, if our
• 44:51
  front forward is better, how much blitzing will they have to do? It
• 44:54
  varies. It's going to be very based on the opponent. In an ideal
• 44:58
  world for any team, I think you only want to rush for right because
• 45:04
  that means you can always drop seven into coverage and then you always have the
• 45:07
  numbers advantage in coverage because the max and offense can do. You have five
• 45:10
  offensive lineman and a quarterback that's six. The max that they can do is
• 45:15
  send five out into the route distribution. So if you've got seven in coverage,
• 45:20
  you always have the numbers advantage seven versus five right, So that's an
• 45:22
  automatic win. And that's where Sean mcdermo I think, and in his heart
• 45:27
  wants to be. But I don't have a percentage number of how much blitzing
• 45:31
  goal they have to do. But I think they will turn those different dials
• 45:35
  just to add more chaos creation and have it causing to an offense. Just
• 45:37
  more pieces that you have to account for in your game plan or your in
• 45:40
  game adjustments and that's where things really get fun, and they have the horses
• 45:45
  to do that. Leonard Floyd, Greg Russo, AJF and sa Von Miller
• 45:50
  are athletic edges, athletic enough for some of them, or very athletic.
• 45:54
  If you're looking at Bond, Miller and Leonard Floyd, guys who they can
• 45:58
  show pressure and then off into the flats or pick up a running back or
• 46:01
  even drop into the hook curls and do some different things like So it's not
• 46:06
  necessarily how much blitzing will they have to do. It's more the blitzes that
• 46:10
  they can lean into to just add another layer of confusion and add another layer
• 46:15
  of work that an opponent has to account for and do when it comes into
• 46:20
  game plan preparation or in game adjustment. That's what's really up. Oh good
• 46:25
  point. You're from Lauren saying stock Up not a doctor, and I know
• 46:29
  he's out for at least four to six games, but Von looked great training.
• 46:32
  Don't want to rush him back, but he looks like when he does
• 46:35
  come back, he will not be a step behind. Yeah. I second
• 46:37
  that notion. I was watching him work off to the side Sunday, I
• 46:40
  think, and it was really I mean you see in the videos too,
• 46:44
  but I was just really impressed with what stage he's at. And I don't
• 46:46
  know how structurally sound he is internally, but from an external standpoint, dude
• 46:50
  looks to be in tremendous, tremendous shape. I appreciate you done. Seven
• 46:55
  one six says hit that light button. If you haven't already, yes,
• 46:59
  please and thank you folk. If you folks are enjoying this content, please
• 47:01
  please, please and thank you drop Alke on this video. It goes a
• 47:05
  long way towards helping myself and then it's higher team to track and trend in
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  front of more eyes and ears. Likes are the lifeblood of videos and live
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  streams and anything and everything on YouTube. So if you haven't already, please
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  drop Alec on this video. Thank you done for saying that. Yeah,
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  please please, please, thank you. It goes a long way. Please.
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  Oh and Taylor's is the same thing smashed the like? Yes please,
• 47:25
  yes, please, please and thank you. Drop a Leke ranting Lee says
• 47:30
  great to hear about the defense. Always felt like our d was playing two
• 47:32
  reactionary to the opposing offenses instead of just punching people in the mouth and letting
• 47:37
  our players be athletes. Yeah, that's that's where you get into it.
• 47:39
  And in plus two with what the Bills did from have done traditionally, from
• 47:44
  a coverage standpoint, the pass over years, they play a lot of match
• 47:45
  coverages and I've broken some of that down on the show before, but to
• 47:49
  kind of give it a general overview, match coverage is it is a lot
• 47:53
  of rule based coverage. So you know, hey, you're going to drop
• 47:58
  and cover this zone. But if this guy does this, you take them.
• 48:01
  If this guy does this, you have to look for another guy,
• 48:05
  and if that other guy does this, then you take them. Like,
• 48:07
  it's a lot of rules based things. There's a lot of you know,
• 48:10
  if then scenarios, and when you run that, it means when you execute,
• 48:16
  well, you're tough to go against because you're so fluid and you're so
• 48:21
  multiple on the back end. But what's also hard with that is on the
• 48:23
  other side of it, you have to everybody's going to be on the same
• 48:28
  page. Everybody has to see the same thing. Everybody has to know like,
• 48:30
  Okay, if number one does this, that means this guy does this,
• 48:34
  I do this, so and so does this. If number one does
• 48:37
  that, number two does this, and I have to look over here,
• 48:38
  and everybody has to read and react in the same way and close to being
• 48:45
  on the same timing in terms of their reactions. It's hard to just live
• 48:47
  that way. And to your point, though, it is reactionary because you
• 48:51
  are waiting for the route distribution to develop, and once it develops, bang,
• 48:55
  that's what you're doing. Pair that with an ineffect of front from a
• 49:00
  pass rush standpoint. Once von Miller went down, and I think that's really
• 49:04
  where the defense lost its teeth last year and didn't have teeth the past couple
• 49:07
  of years because they lacked true pass rush pop up front. It's just not
• 49:09
  a winning formula come play off time. When everybody has your entire regular season
• 49:15
  on tape, they know who and what you are. They know your tendencies,
• 49:16
  they know your likes or dislikes, your weaknesses, your strengths, and
• 49:20
  how to play into or against all of those. So I think having another
• 49:24
  aspect with that aggression, that fast, physical, attack minded type of play
• 49:29
  mixed in with the ability to show pressure and bring it or show it and
• 49:32
  drop out and have that threat of it always looming over an offense's head.
• 49:37
  It's a real nice dictation piece, real nice dictation piece. Last piece here
• 49:43
  from a stock up perspective, and some people mentioned him already in the comments
• 49:47
  Taylor Rap. I like the Taylor Rap signing because of the sub package capability
• 49:54
  and potential that he could have. But I think so far in camp you've
• 49:59
  seen the versatility. John Butler talked about it today. You know how he's
• 50:02
  being used in multiple positions and being asked to do multiple things. His physical
• 50:07
  presence has already shown up. He dropped Reggie Gilliam on Sunday, when you
• 50:13
  know, Gilliam just ran a flat route and Rap came through and tried to
• 50:15
  break up the past and it's kind of chopped down and came through. But
• 50:19
  he went through Gilliam and dropped him. That's not an easy thing to do.
• 50:22
  Gilliam's got some size on him from a pound standpoint, and Rap just
• 50:25
  put him down immediately. I do think there are some limitations the Taylor Raps
• 50:30
  game, but I think his stock his trending up as well. Just I
• 50:35
  really liked what I've seen from him. And then overall, just a couple
• 50:40
  from an individual player's standpoint to follow one line with the Taylor Rap piece I
• 50:45
  think a jam Vanessa has looked good at Oliver had a tremendous day today,
• 50:49
  so I think he's trending well. Leonard Floyd is trending well. I think
• 50:52
  Dave Davis trending well as well, trending well, trending up as well.
• 50:58
  James Cook as a runner is trending up. James Cook as a pass protector
• 51:01
  unfortunately, is trending down. And again there's some guys that are kind of
• 51:07
  in limbo a little bit. But that's the majority of the stock up pieces
• 51:10
  for now. But my biggest ones, my two biggest ones from an individual
• 51:14
  player standpoints to Fon Diggs has been the best player on the field every single
• 51:17
  practice and it's showing. But my bigger ones for stock up are the structural
• 51:22
  pieces that we've seen in the twelve personnel formational variations on the offensive side of
• 51:25
  the ball, and how creative Ken Dorsey is being, how creative and how
• 51:31
  purposeful Ken Dorsey is being with his twelve personnel packages. That's what is a
• 51:37
  huge stock up right now. Then on the other side of the ball,
• 51:39
  the Bill's defense, just the blitzes and the pressure looks, and then the
• 51:44
  mind games that are stemming off of those blitzes and pressure looks, so those
• 51:46
  schematic pieces that I think it will be tremendously important once you know live bullets
• 51:51
  starts flying, starts flying, start flying, and this season starts. I'm
• 51:54
  falling apart. Pop says, who do you think will be the four safeties
• 52:00
  on the team. I think it will be Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer,
• 52:07
  Taylor Rapp and DeMar Hamlin. I think, I wondered. I mean,
• 52:12
  maybe cam Lewis makes it in a special teams or a nickel role, but
• 52:15
  I think those will be the four safeties. I'm pretty confident those will be
• 52:20
  the four awesome common here from Steve Say McDermott seems like a very adaptive coach
• 52:30
  to the times, and we'll have longevity as a coach like Andy Reid because
• 52:32
  of it. I think it's very fair. I mean also tie into that
• 52:36
  too, like Leslie Frasier as well. For as much maligned as Leslie Frasier
• 52:39
  has been these past over years, come playoff time. A lot of what
• 52:43
  you saw from the Bill's defense from a coverage standpoint, in terms of their
• 52:45
  structures and identities very very much ahead of the curve. With the whole two
• 52:51
  high structure thing in disguising coverage and changing the pre to post nap picture and
• 52:54
  their match coverage pieces, right, And that wasn't all just Sean McDermott.
• 52:59
  Someone that was Leslie Fraser. So I do think Frasier was adaptive as well.
• 53:02
  I think where they differ is Frasier is more of a make you beat
• 53:10
  us kind of coach and McDermott is more of that's cool, but every once
• 53:15
  in a while, we're gonna try and beat you type of coach. So
• 53:17
  mcdermot's gonna mix in more blitzes and more you know, havoc and chaos creation
• 53:22
  because that's, you know, how he learned defense from Jim Johnson, the
• 53:27
  legendarian famed Philadelphia Eagles defensive coordinator from the late nineties and two thousands when the
• 53:32
  Eagles were just one of the perennial powers in the NFC year after years.
• 53:36
  So that's where McDermott cut his teeth and that's the type of defense that he
• 53:38
  leans into. So I think he and Frasier are in like a similar tree
• 53:43
  or umbrella, but McDermott turns different dials and he operates in different shades.
• 53:54
  Oh, cool comment here from Jeff jess Say. Jeff says, Hey,
• 53:57
  Anthony, first time tuning in live gladi could catch your great a thoughts commentary.
• 54:00
  I appreciate you, Jeff. You're a great a person and I'm saying
• 54:02
  that purely because you said something very nice about me, So thank you.
• 54:05
  I appreciate you. Lawrence says. McDermott has really started leaning into the analytics.
• 54:08
  Yeah, and it's tough though, because you can get and I say
• 54:13
  this as a person who analytics are very important in what I do here.
• 54:17
  I try to marry the analytics with the film in every way, shape and
• 54:21
  form to put a complete picture together. But if you analytics scare me from
• 54:23
  like an on the field perspective, because you can get so into the weeds
• 54:29
  with the analytics, then all of a sudden you're kind of like second guessing
• 54:31
  yourself and kind of doing things just because the numbers say you should do those
• 54:36
  things. And it can become a slippery slope if you don't navigate the analytics
• 54:40
  path properly and appropriately, it can get very it can get Harry in a
• 54:47
  hurry. But yeah, he's leaning into that analytics piece. And again this
• 54:52
  is the dude who knows ball. Like, one of my biggest things with
• 54:55
  the way Frasier went out was just the image that I think that a career
• 55:00
  of him and even Sean McDermott to a degree of just how they're not able
• 55:02
  to adapt and they're kind of like their time was up or Frasier more so
• 55:07
  than McDermott. But this Bills defense really has been ahead of the curve the
• 55:10
  past several years with the trends that you're seeing for defenses again, nickel and
• 55:15
  light boxes and two high structures like the Bills have been at the forefront of
• 55:19
  that movement for the past several years. Before it was a trend in a
• 55:21
  cool thing like, they were on top of it, and Frasier deserves,
• 55:24
  you know, some flowers for that, but McDermott obviously does as well,
• 55:28
  because you know, he's the one whose steady hand is kind of overseeing it
• 55:31
  and guiding everything. And again I think we'll see those pieces present this year.
• 55:35
  But I think McDermott brings that aggressive, attack minded nature, which is
• 55:40
  what you need. You need more dictation and more versatility and fluidity in your
• 55:45
  approach. That's how you beat really good teams come playoff time. That's how
• 55:49
  you again, you stay kind of matchup proof when you're able to lean into
• 55:52
  these different things. Oh, Lars is a good way to say, Lars
• 55:59
  is the important analytics thing is the model, not the output of the model.
• 56:02
  And then I like this coming here to analytics is based on the trends
• 56:07
  observed in large sample so it works well in baseball. Football is not a
• 56:09
  large sample size sport. I think that's very well said. I am huge
• 56:14
  into the analytics piece from a baseball standpoint as a big baseball fan, but
• 56:17
  I think that's fair. Yeah, because sample size is everything. I mean,
• 56:21
  I said it leading off in this show. We're talking about who's trending
• 56:23
  up and down right now that you know, we're into camp and we're in
• 56:25
  the second week, but it's still relatively a small samples I sample size is
• 56:29
  everything, and if you don't have the proper sample size, especially on the
• 56:31
  lower end of it, obviously it skews your data significantly. And then you're
• 56:37
  operating off of an analytical model and structure that's based on a smaller sample size,
• 56:43
  and that's not really giving you the true trends or the true data sets
• 56:45
  that you need. And thus you're making uninformed decisions or decisions based on kind
• 56:52
  of uninformed data because you don't have the proper sample size to go off of
• 56:55
  it. Fair Sorry, got too much? Oh awesome common here with pop
• 57:00
  saying great a person with a great a tree. That's right, best training
• 57:04
  the business. I appreciate it. I did not expect to go down the
• 57:07
  analytics rabbit hole and some things on that. Oh, and this is a
• 57:10
  good common here from Pete. Pete says analytics is great. I think you
• 57:14
  can also say the quote the analytics say punt, but our team has a
• 57:17
  play we believe in here. Absolutely. That's just where it comes down to
• 57:22
  it, right, Like, are you trusting purely in all the numbers say
• 57:24
  this, let's do this, or it could be vice versa. Right,
• 57:28
  the numbers say you should go for it here, you should go for it
• 57:30
  here, But there's something you just saying, you know what, they've had
• 57:34
  our number here, and I don't feel confident in what we got. You
• 57:37
  know what, let's punt it. It's having that ability to feel that within
• 57:38
  the game and being able to get merge the analytics with what's actually happening in
• 57:44
  the data, with the actual physical representation of what you have in front of
• 57:47
  you, marrying them together and going from there. It's just it's a slippery
• 57:52
  slope when you go peeling into the numbers and the data sets. But we'll
• 57:54
  see, we'll see what happens. Or to transition now to the stock down
• 58:00
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  it. Stock Down this one, I wanted to debate which piece I wanted
• 59:15
  to start with first. I'm gonna start with I don't want to make it
• 59:22
  seem too stockdown, but whatever, I'm gonna go for it. So the
• 59:24
  first stock down piece is not necessarily Kayer Elham, but anyone that's clamoring for
• 59:30
  Kayr Elam too hands down own the cornerback to spot or be the cornerback too
• 59:36
  easily, and it just doesn't seem like it's in the cards right now.
• 59:39
  So I'm gonna start with some quotes here from defensive backs coach John Butler,
• 59:44
  who said, in relation to the cornerback to spot. Here here, here's
• 59:49
  just some words that were uttered by DB's coach John Butler. We have three
• 59:52
  guys, all have those three guys being Kayer Elam, Dane Jackson, Christian
• 59:57
  Benford. We have three guys. All three have their own unique skill sets.
• 1:00:01
  We've been rotating their reps with the ones. We have a plan in
• 1:00:06
  place with each day being different in terms of who gets the reps with the
• 1:00:09
  ones and the twos and the threes. We have a long way to go
• 1:00:13
  in deciding what happens with that position, including the preseason games and preseason practices
• 1:00:19
  and then seeing who can execute in season. So that's what DB's coach John
• 1:00:22
  Butler said. And even without what John Butler said, seeing in camp what
• 1:00:29
  we've seen in thus far, you can see the rotation. We are in
• 1:00:32
  a legitimate battle for the cornerback two spot. And I also don't think a
• 1:00:37
  platoon for that position is out of the question either, similar to what we
• 1:00:39
  saw with well Levi Wallace and Kevin Johnson in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. I'm
• 1:00:46
  bad with Years twenty nineteen when the Bills lost to the Texans in that stupid
• 1:00:51
  game in the playoffs. So my stockdown isn't necessarily kyer Elam. I guess
• 1:00:54
  it is by extension. If you believe that he should be Corner two,
• 1:01:00
  his stock is down because he's not corner two right now. I don't know
• 1:01:04
  who Corner two is. I don't think the Bills know who Corner two is.
• 1:01:07
  If I had to put a betting odd's favorite right now, in terms
• 1:01:10
  of who I think is going to get the most snaps at Corner two coming
• 1:01:15
  out of the gate, I think it's Dane Jackson, which I know everybody's
• 1:01:19
  super thrilled to hear that, because anytime I say anything good about Dane Jackson
• 1:01:22
  on Twitter, I get people coming out of the woodwork acting like I insulted
• 1:01:27
  their mother. I'm not going to go into a two hard because I did
• 1:01:30
  the Cornerback two episode here on the show several weeks ago, and I made
• 1:01:32
  a fantastic graphic to go along with it. But I digress. I think
• 1:01:37
  Dan Jackson had a better year last year than he gets credit for, and
• 1:01:39
  I don't think that Elam was ready to own that corner two spot last year,
• 1:01:47
  like a lot of fans think that he was or capable of, especially
• 1:01:52
  with some of the plays he made down the stretch right, some of the
• 1:01:54
  plays he made in that night game against Miami, the interception against the Dolphins
• 1:01:59
  and the lay offs, or even early on in the year with the interception
• 1:02:00
  against Kansas City and someone this comes from, you know myself, an air
• 1:02:06
  turner, sitting down with Kayer and talking with him about who he was early
• 1:02:08
  on and how he developed as the season progressed in terms of being more comfortable
• 1:02:13
  and trusting himself more. But and so I'm very careful here. I don't
• 1:02:17
  want to label Kayer Elam as being a stock down guy, but I guess
• 1:02:21
  you could again by extension, because he hasn't locked up this corner two spot.
• 1:02:27
  I still think it's ideal for him to be the corner two and a
• 1:02:30
  perfect world his size, his frame, his athleticism, his speed, his
• 1:02:36
  skill set. I wanted a more scheme, versatile corner two for the past
• 1:02:39
  several years, as much as I like Levi Wallace like, I just want
• 1:02:44
  somebody who on the outside has the ability to you can go man at any
• 1:02:47
  point against anyone. You can go man, you can go zone, you
• 1:02:51
  can go quarters, you can go cover two, you can go cover three,
• 1:02:52
  you can go match coverage, you can go spot drop again, whatever
• 1:02:55
  have you. I want to know that I have a corner out there who
• 1:02:59
  is not limited, because if they're limited, what I call on defense is
• 1:03:04
  therefore limited. And I don't want that. But we're just not seeing it.
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  And I don't think This is the conversation that I think resulted in last
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  year is everybody was like blaming Sean McDermott for not starting kayre Elam and not
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  playing kayre Elam more, and it was just funny to see that and hear
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  that, and people really didn't never ask the question like, well, maybe
• 1:03:27
  Kayer's not doing good in practice, maybe he's not instilling confidence in the coaching
• 1:03:34
  staff to play him come game time. Now, this is where two sides
• 1:03:38
  of the same coin or double edged sword, or you know, the pendulum
• 1:03:42
  swain goes right. I think kayre Elam would be in better shape to be
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  cornered two right now had he played more reps last year as a rookie,
• 1:03:51
  right that more time on task. Usually again, not a thousand percent guarantee
• 1:03:57
  but it usually results in better play going forward. But on the other side
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  of that, you have to look at a team that was trying to win
• 1:04:06
  a Super Bowl last year, and can you really have a premium important position
• 1:04:13
  where someone has to learn on the fly and is a potential vulnerability, because,
• 1:04:15
  like I've stated on the show before, like Sean McDermott or Brandon Bean
• 1:04:20
  said about a month or so ago, there were mental mistakes that were being
• 1:04:25
  made by Kyrie Elam in practice, and those mental mistakes you were seeing in
• 1:04:28
  games, even in games where he was showing up big against Miami in the
• 1:04:30
  playoffs and he had some nice interceptions, he had a couple of blown coverages
• 1:04:33
  in that game where player is hollering at him because he made the wrong read
• 1:04:38
  and somebody's left wide open with Skyl Thompson couldn't make that throw right. I
• 1:04:43
  like Kayer. I think it's ideal if he is the guy, but I
• 1:04:45
  think we need to start to get to a point to look at things where
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  it isn't necessarily all on if Kayer is not starting, I don't know why
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  it's automatically Sean McDermott's vault or at back then, Leslie Fraser's fault and so
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  on and so forth. R J saying, Bruce Nolan broke down Kier's playoff
• 1:05:06
  games and he was by far the best dB on the field since he was
• 1:05:10
  the only plus player, since he was the only plus player on defense that
• 1:05:14
  game. I didn't see that from Bruce, and that's cool with it.
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  I don't think he's bad. Like he had some nice plays in the playoffs,
• 1:05:20
  he also had two really big blown coverages, and I think if that's
• 1:05:23
  happening in games, maybe it's happening in practice as well. And then how
• 1:05:28
  can you holistically feel confident in putting a guy out there if he's making those
• 1:05:30
  mental mistakes, especially in a match coverage, zone coverage kind of defense.
• 1:05:34
  So I don't think Elam's bad. I just don't think his playing the last
• 1:05:39
  year necessarily warranted that he automatically be the starter coming into this year, or
• 1:05:45
  that his play last year warranted him being the starter last year. I think
• 1:05:48
  that's the reason you saw that platoon system, that platoon scheme, and some
• 1:05:51
  of it too, is him learning on the fly. This is the corner
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  who was a man corner who was physical, press it up in your face
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  in college now he's got to come into the NFL and he has two one
• 1:06:04
  learn different technique because the kind of physicality you showcase in college that doesn't play
• 1:06:09
  in the NFL past five yards, right, So you have to be less
• 1:06:12
  handsy because you get flagged in the NFL. Then he's got to learn how
• 1:06:15
  to play more off coverage, more zone, more pattern matching. So we
• 1:06:18
  already had to learn on the fly, and he's doing it at a hard
• 1:06:21
  position against top tier talent, where in today's NFL usually like the best athletes
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  are probably at the wide receiver position, and so the hardest position to me
• 1:06:30
  in the NFL is to be an NFL corner because the rules are stacked against
• 1:06:33
  you, and then the guys you have to cover are so difficult to cover.
• 1:06:36
  It's hard to play at that spot. Right, So I think allowing
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  him to continue to develop in simmer I have no problem with it. I
• 1:06:46
  would love Kyer to be the guy. I would have loved him to be
• 1:06:49
  the guy coming out of the gate last year, but Benford emerged and Dane
• 1:06:54
  continues to play solidly. So the stock down piece for me is anyone who
• 1:07:00
  really wants kay you're eling to be like named cornerback two right now, and
• 1:07:03
  I'm not saying that won't happen. We could come into week one and Kayer
• 1:07:06
  is CB two when he sees ninety percent of the reps, or even if
• 1:07:10
  it is a platoon, but kay, you're seeing seventy or eighty percent of
• 1:07:13
  the reps something like that. I just think right now that's cornerback two.
• 1:07:16
  Spot is legitimately locked in a battle. It could be Kayer, it could
• 1:07:19
  be Dane, It still could be Christian Benford. There are pieces that there
• 1:07:25
  are pieces of each one of those guys that this coaching staff likes. And
• 1:07:28
  with what I read from you know or you know a couple minutes ago,
• 1:07:30
  with what John Butler said, combined with what we're seeing at practices, it's
• 1:07:35
  full rotation. You are seeing each guy get rep with the ones, each
• 1:07:39
  guy get reps with the twos, some with the threes, depending on how
• 1:07:43
  you're looking at it. It's a legitimate battle that made the preseason will probably
• 1:07:47
  shake out some more things, but practice is honestly going to be the huge
• 1:07:51
  one. I think the determining factor. And I think that that's part of
• 1:07:55
  the conversation from last year too, right like you can get better in practice.
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  I know there's no there's no better time on task than live bullets and
• 1:08:01
  game reps. But dudes are gonna have to prove themselves in practice, and
• 1:08:05
  it's not enough just to be like, we'll put him in the game and
• 1:08:08
  he'll show this or he'll show that, because if a dude is getting outplayed
• 1:08:11
  by somebody else in practice, it's hard for you to just be like,
• 1:08:15
  yeah, well we'll start the other guy right and always done says right here,
• 1:08:18
  like it's good to know we have four good corners. I think that's
• 1:08:20
  also a positive, Like you can never have enough corner depth, just like
• 1:08:24
  you can never have enough offensive line depth. So I like having Trey White
• 1:08:28
  and Dane Jackson and Kyrie Elam and Christian Benford and knowing that, like,
• 1:08:30
  okay, like we've got legitimately four serviceable corners and they're serviceable to different levels
• 1:08:35
  and different coverage structures and identities. But that's also a fun piece, I
• 1:08:41
  think. And again everything with Kay here, he had to learn a different
• 1:08:45
  scheme and system last year. He needed that time on task, and I
• 1:08:49
  think it took him time to adjust to it. From a practice standpoint,
• 1:08:53
  I mean this was a dude. Early in camp last year, they had
• 1:08:57
  to put gloves like boxing gloves on Kai year Elam because he was so grabby
• 1:09:00
  in practice that he was just drawn flags left and right, so they had
• 1:09:04
  to literally like wrap his hands with boxing gloves to make him stop grabbing.
• 1:09:10
  That's the kind of adjustment he had to make at the NFL level, And
• 1:09:14
  that doesn't mean that he's bad or it was a waste of a first round
• 1:09:18
  pick. That doesn't mean anything, right, he was a back end of
• 1:09:21
  the first round, back end of a first round pick last year. That
• 1:09:26
  doesn't mean he has to be a starter in year one or immediately in year
• 1:09:29
  two. Would it be nice, absolutely, and I personally would love it,
• 1:09:32
  But that doesn't mean that it was a waste of a pick or he's
• 1:09:36
  done or it's over. Guys learn at different paces and at different times,
• 1:09:41
  and especially when you come from a scheme and a style of play that you
• 1:09:45
  are not used to, it takes a little while to adjust to the NFL,
• 1:09:48
  which is hard enough to adjust to, let alone when you're relearning things
• 1:09:51
  or learning new things and trying to chuck old habits and learn new habits.
• 1:09:57
  But again, this was a dude who in camp last year was super grabby
• 1:10:00
  and they had to put boxing gloves on him to kind of chill let alone
• 1:10:03
  the actual coverage structures and play and technique that he had to learn to be
• 1:10:09
  able to apply that regularly weekend and week out. I still think he's the
• 1:10:12
  better, the best athlete out of the cornerback group, especially at that CB
• 1:10:15
  two spot, and with the combination of his size and frame and athleticism and
• 1:10:19
  coverage skill set, I think it's ideal if he wins that corner two job.
• 1:10:23
  But right now, man, I don't think. I don't think there
• 1:10:30
  is a front runner. If there was, I'd probably been on Dane Jackson.
• 1:10:32
  But man, yeah, it's a legitimate battle at CB two. So
• 1:10:36
  the stockdown is for anybody who or even anybody who wants like Dane Jackson or
• 1:10:41
  Benford to be the guy. Right I think stockdown is down for any of
• 1:10:43
  anyone who wants someone to be named cornerback two right now because it ain't happening.
• 1:10:48
  Oh, RJ, don't do. R J says, sure, Sauce
• 1:10:50
  can grab all day, but when Kayer grabs, he has to wear boxing
• 1:10:54
  gloves. Do not put Kayer in the same. I like, I like
• 1:10:59
  Kayer, but Sauce Gardner is a different level of corner and a lot of
• 1:11:02
  things the Bills fans let be like, oh Sauce is grabbing. I don't
• 1:11:04
  consider it grabbing, but I get the joke there in the point. But
• 1:11:10
  man, yeah it's tough. Oh. Antoine william says Sauce Gardner wasn't in
• 1:11:15
  the right place in so many games his own words, but his coach let
• 1:11:17
  him learn on the fly. But Sauce is also a different level of corner
• 1:11:23
  coming out of the gate. Like I don't again, I don't think you
• 1:11:26
  can compare. I appreciate you, uh, I appreciate your j. I
• 1:11:30
  never know with you r J. You're joking. Don't worry. I appreciate
• 1:11:31
  you. Thank you very much, Antoine saying, I want to go back
• 1:11:35
  to this comment. There is something to be said for letting rookies learn on
• 1:11:39
  the fly, right, But I think the level at which Sauce came in
• 1:11:43
  as a rookie in the level that Kaier came in. I mean, there're
• 1:11:46
  two different types of prospects, They're two different caliber of players. And that's
• 1:11:50
  not to knock Kaier at all, but like Sauce was the slam dunk hands
• 1:11:55
  down corner one last year for a reason. The scheme diverse. No,
• 1:11:59
  no, no, no, you're saying Sauce has the confidence, that's the
• 1:12:02
  main difference. No, it's not just confidence. It's the hand placement,
• 1:12:05
  it's the footwork, it's the coverage versatility, it's the hip fluidity. It's
• 1:12:11
  it's the ability to read the route distribution and cover. It's the ability to
• 1:12:15
  have the zone eyes and the anticipation. It's the intelligence. It's there's so
• 1:12:20
  much. It's it's more than just confidence, and more than just oh yeah,
• 1:12:24
  like he learned on the fly. Like Sauce already came into the league
• 1:12:27
  last year and was operating at a different level than like a majority of the
• 1:12:30
  corners, not just in that rookie class, but that in the NFL.
• 1:12:34
  And I think confidence definitely goes a long way. And again, if Kai
• 1:12:39
  here had played more last year, I think he'd be in a better position
• 1:12:43
  right now as an NFL player. I don't. I don't think that's debatable.
• 1:12:46
  The issue with it last year was, you know, kind of weighing
• 1:12:51
  the risk reward of playing a guy who may not be one hundred percent and
• 1:12:56
  ready right now, but playing him will help you in the future verse.
• 1:13:00
  If he's not ready right now, how much does it hurt you right now
• 1:13:03
  in trying to win a Super Bowl. So it's trying to figure out the
• 1:13:06
  best balance of that short term reward versus the long term reward. I think
• 1:13:11
  that was what kind of focus. That was my focus of the decision making
• 1:13:15
  last year, that risk reward piece of the short term value versus the long
• 1:13:18
  term play. Now, if we're going into year two again, Kier would
• 1:13:23
  be in better shape this year had he played more last year. But I
• 1:13:26
  don't think his play last year necessarily warranted him receiving the snaps that would have
• 1:13:30
  put him in better shape for this year, if that makes sense. But
• 1:13:35
  yeah, so stock down. I don't necessarily want to just say Kayer.
• 1:13:39
  But if you were a person who wanted Kayer to be named corner two right
• 1:13:42
  away, that stock is down because it's a legitimate battle at that corner two
• 1:13:45
  spot. Some more stock down offensive line, and it's not just reactionary.
• 1:13:50
  From today. I want to starve with Spencer Brown, who looked better than
• 1:13:56
  I thought he would on Sunday when I saw him. But you're still seeing
• 1:14:01
  some of that mercurial play, and it was funny because I was looking at
• 1:14:05
  different pieces my first day on Sunday, and yeah, I ended up going
• 1:14:10
  to the offensive line when they were running one on ones and literally on back
• 1:14:14
  to back reps for Spencer Brown. It was the perfect microcosm representation of what
• 1:14:17
  he is. So his first rep, so it's one on one and they're
• 1:14:21
  just doing past protection versus pass rush. He's lined up against Greg Russo and
• 1:14:27
  he has a legitimately great rep. He wins first touch, he has good
• 1:14:30
  hand placement, his footwork is clean. He stays in front of Rousseau the
• 1:14:34
  whole time he matches him step first step, stays in between him and the
• 1:14:38
  quarterback. It's a hands down win for Spencer Brown. Beautiful rep against Greg
• 1:14:42
  Russo, and you're like wow, So I was, well, at least
• 1:14:45
  I said wow, like I was impressed. So I stayed with the offensive
• 1:14:47
  line. I want to see the next rep. The next rep, he
• 1:14:50
  goes up against Boogie Basham and gets burned around the arc where it doesn't even
• 1:14:55
  come close, barely even gets a hand. I'm Boogie Basham gets beat right
• 1:14:58
  around the edge, and so that I'm gonna say stocked down for Brown a
• 1:15:02
  little bit in front the offensive line piece to a degree. Again, I'm
• 1:15:05
  gonna leave with the Brown piece. I've got more to go over. But
• 1:15:09
  it's just that mercurial nature is still there. That roller coaster ride that Spencer
• 1:15:13
  Brown is is still there to a degree, and it's a little scary.
• 1:15:17
  It's a little worrisome, but he does look better overall. I'm just gonna
• 1:15:21
  say stock down for the perspective of I wanted to see more stability coming into
• 1:15:27
  camp already. I wanted to limit again Spencer Brown's biggest thing are the highs
• 1:15:30
  are really good, Like the highs are really high, but the lows are
• 1:15:33
  really low and right off, right off rip first individual drills on Sunday,
• 1:15:40
  when I saw that he has a great rep against Spencer Brown, and then
• 1:15:42
  the next rep he gets beat horribly and okay, here that roller coaster continues
• 1:15:45
  so less than ideal. I wanted to touch on Connor McGovern, not that
• 1:15:51
  he's been bad, he's been kind of fine to men. There were a
• 1:15:55
  couple of reps individual where he got beat real clean at Oliver got him on
• 1:15:59
  one on de Quan Jones may have gone him on another and maybe it was
• 1:16:02
  at Oliver both times. But edis had a really a tremendous camp so far,
• 1:16:06
  especially in these past several days. I guess for me, the stock
• 1:16:10
  down piece with the offensive line is it's not necessarily because they're playing poorly and
• 1:16:15
  they're trending down. It's I just hoped that the offensive line would be more
• 1:16:21
  stable at this point already with the addition of McGovern with a healthy Spencer Brown,
• 1:16:28
  even though I think he's a huge question mark, I had hoped for
• 1:16:31
  a little more consistency and a little more stability, even though the Bill's D
• 1:16:35
  line I think is a legitimate, good group with a lot of good rotational
• 1:16:39
  pieces and dudes, especially when you start to mix and match and play with
• 1:16:42
  play games with them upfront. But I just hope for some more semblance of
• 1:16:45
  stability. I know they had a rough day today. I don't think today
• 1:16:48
  was completely indicative of what the offensive line has been throughout camp thus far.
• 1:16:54
  But it's just worrisome, and I guess called maybe I'm just you know,
• 1:16:58
  it's a trigger for me because the offensive line is a question mark for me.
• 1:17:00
  It was a huge need for the Bills last year. I didn't really
• 1:17:02
  think they addressed it fully and it kind of showed its stripes in a negative
• 1:17:08
  way down the stretch last year, and I wanted them to address right tackle
• 1:17:12
  this year. They did not, but they did do some things at right
• 1:17:14
  guard and left guard, so we'll see how that plays out. But the
• 1:17:18
  offensive line, again, I'm considering it's stocked now, not because they're trending
• 1:17:21
  down holistically. Again, Spencer Brown, I don't even think it is trending
• 1:17:25
  down. But when you have a group that was inconsistent and you come into
• 1:17:30
  camp and they are continuing to show inconsistency, for me, that's a cause
• 1:17:36
  for concern. So I'm not necessarily putting the arrow down saying that they're playing
• 1:17:40
  bad, but I am a little concerned from that piece. Well, good
• 1:17:44
  question from Aiden started to grab some comments here. Aidan says, did you
• 1:17:46
  have anything interesting to note about Osyrus Torrance and how he has been at his
• 1:17:49
  position in comparison to Ryan Bates. The first thing to note about Osyrus Torrance
• 1:17:56
  is how much weight he lost. I don't know how much, but I
• 1:18:00
  saw him in person at the Senior Bowl in Alabama in February and he was
• 1:18:06
  a huge mountain of a man somewhere in the mid three thirties to like three
• 1:18:11
  forty type of weight. I don't remember what he was, but he was
• 1:18:15
  huge, just monster of a dude and look the same on tape. I
• 1:18:19
  had a double take when I saw him the first day I saw him at
• 1:18:23
  camp this year, Like, he's not small, but he leaned out right,
• 1:18:28
  like his legs, his arms, so he's in tremendous shape. Obviously
• 1:18:31
  they got him on some sort of workout plan and diet and regiment and routine
• 1:18:35
  to get him probably closer to a weight that they feel more comfortable playing him
• 1:18:39
  at. So that's my first note, just is how much he thinned out
• 1:18:42
  and how lean he is, but within that he hasn't lost his power.
• 1:18:46
  So don't think that, Well, they took this big, powerful people mover,
• 1:18:49
  mauling type of guard and they slimmed him down, and now he's not
• 1:18:53
  going to be able to do that. He's still got the power, he's
• 1:18:55
  still got the pop. But they did slim him down somewhere, he slimmed
• 1:18:59
  himself down. So I thought that was interesting to note, and being in
• 1:19:01
  comparison to Bates, Yeah, just think different different usages with Bates. You're
• 1:19:06
  seeing more of the workout in space that we've seen traditionally from him. You're
• 1:19:11
  seeing more pulling, You're seeing him get on the move more. With Torrents,
• 1:19:15
  it's more of the pin piece than the pull. It's more of the
• 1:19:19
  downfield and displacement causing type of blocks than it is getting out in space and
• 1:19:25
  letting an athlete be an athlete. Because you know, I'm not going to
• 1:19:28
  knock Torrance his athleticism, but that's not his calling card, right. You
• 1:19:30
  want him getting his hands on dudes using those vice gript strong hands that are
• 1:19:36
  filled with shock and pop. You want him getting those hands on dudes early,
• 1:19:41
  and you want him driving them off the ball, whether it's again on
• 1:19:44
  a pin and just washing somebody down, or whether it's getting into their chest
• 1:19:47
  early and creating vertical displacement. One of the reps too, that I think
• 1:19:50
  speaks to o Cyrus Torrance. I don't even remember what they ran on the
• 1:19:55
  front side of the play, but Torrance down blocked and he had Daiquan Jones
• 1:19:59
  and he walked Daquan Jones completely down. And Daquan Jones is a large,
• 1:20:02
  powerful man. He's also smart as hell and he knows how to feel like
• 1:20:06
  when he's getting blocked a certain way, he knows like, Okay, this
• 1:20:10
  is happening, let me pivot and do something else to stop it from happening.
• 1:20:14
  And he could not. Torrens washed him down completely. So I think
• 1:20:17
  it's again their differences in play style between Torrents and Bates are showing up already,
• 1:20:24
  So that would be my one of my big things to note there in
• 1:20:28
  terms of interesting is that you are seeing when each is in there at right
• 1:20:31
  guard, you are seeing the play calls lean into their skill sets a little
• 1:20:35
  more each respectively, because again, their skill sets are different. Bates is
• 1:20:40
  smaller, more fluid, more athletic. Torrens is bigger, people mover,
• 1:20:44
  smaller type of dude. So there are different types of guards, which has
• 1:20:46
  been one of my biggest questions for camp and then leading into the season because
• 1:20:50
  depending on who wins that right guard job, I think you have to call
• 1:20:55
  a different offense or a different kind of run game because they're each different kinds
• 1:20:59
  of players. And I thought that was a huge question mark in terms of
• 1:21:00
  what that could be. But yeah, I think they're they're being used in
• 1:21:04
  different ways already. And then Torrents just being a slim down version of himself
• 1:21:09
  that I had seen previously in prior. So we'll see what happens with that
• 1:21:14
  piece. Pops coming in and saying the d line is bringing more intensity than
• 1:21:17
  the old line is. Yeah, I think that's a that's a fair point,
• 1:21:21
  you know, I and you know also too, defensive guys usually bring
• 1:21:25
  more juice. But that's fair. M seeing some love for Kayer. Yeah,
• 1:21:32
  Kayer had the game ending pass breakup against Mike Asiki in the playoff game
• 1:21:35
  against the Dolphins. He also had an interception on a really nice cover to
• 1:21:42
  drop where nobody was going underneath, so he just kept sinking and had an
• 1:21:45
  interception. And again in that same game, he also had two blown coverages.
• 1:21:48
  So that that's not to take anything away from him and the successes that
• 1:21:51
  he's had, but to act like he was just this perfect dude and should
• 1:21:55
  be the Cans down guy. I don't think that was ever the case last
• 1:21:58
  year, and I think the fact that we're having a battle again in camp,
• 1:22:03
  some of that has to be reflected upon him. It's not the coaches.
• 1:22:08
  The coaches don't have it out for him. The coaching staff for kyer
• 1:22:11
  Elam wants kyer Elam to win the job. They want to be like,
• 1:22:14
  oh, yeah, we took that guy in the first and now he's starting
• 1:22:16
  look at look at us using our draft resources properly that they want that right.
• 1:22:21
  The fact that he hasn't locked down that position, it's it's it's twofold,
• 1:22:27
  it's one could mean and it's probably a little bit of both. Could
• 1:22:30
  mean that you know, he's not locking it down and it's a hymn thing.
• 1:22:33
  Some of it could be the flip side that Dane Jackson Christian Benfor are
• 1:22:36
  just playing really well, and that's that's the world that you just have to
• 1:22:40
  live in. But man, I know that we are going to continue to
• 1:22:44
  talk about kyr leam Elam for the entire year, especially if he does not
• 1:22:46
  start. RJ saying the issue I saw with the old line struggles has been
• 1:22:50
  with stunts. They're having issues with that specifically. Hopefully that is just something
• 1:22:54
  they learned by playing together. Some of that's going to be past protection scheme
• 1:22:57
  and plan. Sometimes you just get gained up and you don't see what's going
• 1:23:00
  on, or sometimes it's an individual failure. But I think back to that
• 1:23:03
  Cincinnati game in the playoffs, and they attack the Bills with specific stunts and
• 1:23:10
  delayed blitz and simulated pressures and creepers in addition to just some alignment things that
• 1:23:15
  were tailored to attack the Bills in a specific way. So we'll see that
• 1:23:19
  piece. Lauren in a similar way saying, do you think some of the
• 1:23:24
  offensive line issues could be that they're trying to work on communications slash protection schemes
• 1:23:28
  with a few new players. Absolutely, you know, especially especially if McGovern
• 1:23:32
  and Torrents are in there together. You've got two new dudes on the offensive
• 1:23:36
  line, right, And even if it's just McGovern in there with Bates and
• 1:23:40
  Morris and Dawkins and Brown, that's still one person you're sty trying to get
• 1:23:44
  together, right, So I think there is some credibility to that thought into
• 1:23:48
  that worry. There's so much of offensive line play I say it all the
• 1:23:53
  time as chemistry based the ability to know who's going to pick up what,
• 1:23:57
  or even just you know, on a double team together, right, like
• 1:23:59
  who's going to fall off and climb to the second level, and being able
• 1:24:01
  to feel your partner and feel your opponent and having that type of synergy with
• 1:24:06
  each other on the offensive line. So I think one thousand percent we're into
• 1:24:10
  the second week, but we're still in what day six or seven of camps,
• 1:24:14
  so we'll see what happens and things go for And I'm not I'm not.
• 1:24:17
  This isn't like, you know, selling the alarm for the offensive line.
• 1:24:20
  There's still time for them to grow and get better and have a good
• 1:24:24
  day. And again today it was a bad day for them, but it's
• 1:24:27
  not like every day has been a horrible day for them. It's a little
• 1:24:29
  discouraging that, you know, you have a physical practice and a physical day
• 1:24:33
  and when the pads start popping, they start to falter a little bit on
• 1:24:38
  the offensive line. But overall, I'm not too worried. I just think
• 1:24:43
  I, for me person that I had concerns about the offensive line coming into
• 1:24:45
  the year, and to still have those concerns now, that's why I'm putting
• 1:24:48
  them on the stock down list, because those concerns for me are still present.
• 1:24:54
  And this next piece is a similar one as well, the other starting
• 1:24:58
  linebacker spot. And it's not that I'm seeing bad play. I'm not seeing
• 1:25:01
  bad play from Dodson or Bernard or Specter or I don't know if you're an
• 1:25:06
  AJ client truth or Dory and Williams guy, but I just still think they're
• 1:25:13
  there is cause for concern at whoever is going to start at lineback or opposite
• 1:25:15
  of Mamelano. And I don't think that's necessarily a knock on anybody who starts.
• 1:25:20
  I think we're really going to see sometimes you'll see it directly in terms
• 1:25:25
  of guys getting beat, but I think more in terms of the coverage structures
• 1:25:28
  that the Bills play. You're really going to see the impact that losing Tremaine
• 1:25:33
  Edmonds had on or will have on this defense. I was encouraging to see
• 1:25:40
  Dorny Williams getting early work before practices um trying to learn, you know,
• 1:25:45
  more about the match coverage piece and how to pick up and pass off and
• 1:25:47
  pick up and pass off because again, you know his his his coverage structures
• 1:25:53
  and at two lane were just purely spot drop Madden style type of coverages where
• 1:25:58
  you just go to his zone and look and pick somebody up. It's a
• 1:26:00
  different world in the NFL and especially in this Bill's defense. But middle linebacker
• 1:26:05
  I think is similar to or the other linebacker spot I should say is similar
• 1:26:10
  to the corner two spot where you could make a case for a multitude of
• 1:26:14
  the dudes. It looks like right now Terrell Dodson's in the league, maybe
• 1:26:17
  with Terrell Bernard coming up behind him or close to him. Dodson is all
• 1:26:25
  right against the run. I am very concerned about him in pass coverage.
• 1:26:29
  We've seen that in the limited sample size of when he started and when he
• 1:26:32
  has dropped into coverage. I so it's stocked down for this position. It's
• 1:26:38
  really stocked down for me, just because I don't have confidence in whoever is
• 1:26:41
  going to play at that spot. I don't think Dodson has done anything to
• 1:26:45
  lock it down. Bernard, for me, is still the least of all
• 1:26:49
  evils because he's above average and almost everything, even though he's not great at
• 1:26:54
  any one thing. I don't think Bernard has as many or as severe of
• 1:26:58
  vulnerabilities or efficiencies in his game that the other candidates at linebacker have. I
• 1:27:03
  mean again, I the fact that I'd be okay with Bale inspector Babylon around
• 1:27:08
  these parts being the starting linebacker for this team opposite of Matt Blano, I
• 1:27:12
  think really says a lot in terms of where this linebacker group is and what
• 1:27:15
  this linebacker group is, and I'm concerned about it. And again, I
• 1:27:19
  think you can mitigate Edmonds's, you know, departure by having strong defensive line
• 1:27:25
  play and in All Pro at the other linebacker spot Matt Blano, and a
• 1:27:29
  tremendous secondary at the safeties and all three corner spots, both outside and nickel.
• 1:27:33
  But it's it's worrisome to a degree from me arej coming in and saying,
• 1:27:44
  what's oddest? Dodson has had five PBUs in camp so far. I
• 1:27:45
  think he really worked on this pass covers this offseason. I didn't know he
• 1:27:48
  had five pass breakups. Sunday I watched him get I watched multiple completions happen
• 1:27:55
  right in his zone, next to him, over him, and around him
• 1:27:59
  in a couple of ways. And so once that happened, I was just
• 1:28:00
  like, Okay, we're kind of in like the same boat. And a
• 1:28:03
  lot of it too for Dodson is And I don't think it's a mental piece,
• 1:28:11
  Like I don't think he doesn't know what to do. And I think
• 1:28:13
  that's part of the reason why he has the leg up against the other guys
• 1:28:15
  because he's been in this scheme and this system the longest, and he has
• 1:28:18
  the most time on task. He's just limited physically with what and who he
• 1:28:24
  is, like he's not the fastest or the most agile. And then you
• 1:28:28
  compare that with what they've had at that position in Tremaine Edmunds. It's just
• 1:28:32
  a different caliber athlete and that's a different type of skill set at that position.
• 1:28:39
  But for me, I just see him dropping and passes being completed in
• 1:28:42
  his owner in the window too, or from him and next to him,
• 1:28:45
  and again, he is what he is. Bernard will see what he's gonna
• 1:28:51
  be. Babylon Spector will see what he's gonna be. Dorry Williams, I
• 1:28:55
  don't think we have any idea what he's going to be, and I don't
• 1:28:57
  think we're gonna find out in twenty twenty three. I think more of a
• 1:29:00
  twenty twenty four and beyond kind of guy. But we'll see it's it's gonna
• 1:29:05
  be an interesting piece. I don't know how they're going to function at that
• 1:29:10
  spot. So again it's not I'm not down on Dodson, mainly because I
• 1:29:13
  was already kind of down on him, so I'm still just there anyway.
• 1:29:16
  But that stocked down piece, it's just not having an answer at It's similar
• 1:29:21
  to the corner two spot, but in a much different manner. I'm more
• 1:29:24
  comfortable whoever the Bill's trot out at corner two, whether it's Dane or Kayer
• 1:29:30
  or Benford, I am one thousand percent more confident in any of those guys
• 1:29:33
  starting at corner two that I am any of the linebackers starting at linebacker Ropposon
• 1:29:39
  of Mamelano. So for me, that corner two spot is stocked down just
• 1:29:43
  because no one has locked it down yet. The linebacker spot, I think
• 1:29:46
  is stocked down from a similar perspective of no one's locked it down yet,
• 1:29:51
  but also because I think the candidates are worse off than the corner candidates.
• 1:29:59
  It gives me even more cause for concern, because then it means everybody kind
• 1:30:01
  of equally is just black. Like I think the corner competition is guys are
• 1:30:06
  having good days and bad days, or guys are just all playing really good,
• 1:30:11
  and you're trying to figure out who's playing the best out of all those
• 1:30:14
  guys playing good. Linebacker, I just think it's still worrisome because you don't
• 1:30:19
  have anybody who's playing to that high level it's more of just kind of like,
• 1:30:24
  all right, who who does the worst the least type of thing,
• 1:30:30
  and we'll see what we get from them. Again, I still think Taylor
• 1:30:32
  Rapp is going to play significant portion at that linebacker spot and mainly be like
• 1:30:36
  if Dodson wins the spot, Dodson's coming off on third downs, which is
• 1:30:41
  part of the reason why I think he also could have a leg up because
• 1:30:45
  they're not worried about him in coverage. Like granted, teams are going to
• 1:30:48
  pass on first and second down, but I think Taylor Rapp as dime linebacker
• 1:30:51
  is a very real thing and will be a very real thing. So it's
• 1:30:58
  just annoying when you platoon a spot because then offenses can dictate to you and
• 1:31:03
  force your hand by placing you into situations that are disadvantageous for you because they
• 1:31:08
  know the vulnerabilities and the strengths of whoever is at that position, and they
• 1:31:14
  know how to play to them or against them based on formations or personnel packages
• 1:31:18
  and using your own tendencies against you. So getting into a platoon world like
• 1:31:23
  that from a situational standpoint is very worrisome for me. But I think Rap
• 1:31:30
  will see a decent amount of snaps at the dime linebacker spot, especially if
• 1:31:34
  you can get teams into third and predictable or second and longer or second or
• 1:31:39
  long ish, and so maybe that kind of mitigates whatever the Bills have at
• 1:31:44
  that other linebacker spot from a coverage standpoint. But for me, that's still
• 1:31:47
  there. It's let's see what does ze mad mafia say? Saying that's tough
• 1:31:55
  to hear, Anthony, but kind of makes sense with all their experience outside
• 1:31:57
  a client. When do you think they will lock that down considering the importance
• 1:32:00
  of the mic linebacker. That's a tremendous question. I honestly could see it
• 1:32:05
  going through through the preseason, Like I could see them rotating guys and getting
• 1:32:13
  different snapcounts for everybody, Like I could see them naming the starting linebacker like
• 1:32:16
  a week out from the regular season, or as the preseason is kind of
• 1:32:19
  come into a close. I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon,
• 1:32:23
  just because you've got several candidates who spoke on the linebackers the other day.
• 1:32:31
  I don't even think it was McDermot or being or an individual coach, but
• 1:32:34
  Dodson and Bernard were talked about well, um spector was talked about. I
• 1:32:39
  think the Bills are kind of setting it up for as much longevity as they
• 1:32:45
  possibly can before they have to name a starter or kind of answer anything with
• 1:32:48
  any type of concrete definition. I think it'll be sometime before we see them
• 1:32:55
  name a starter. And even though even though it's an important spot, even
• 1:32:58
  though you know it's an important spot for any defense, but especially in nickel
• 1:33:01
  based defense where you're rolling in two linebackers, only like it's even more important
• 1:33:04
  in having a varied skill set. I'm getting frustrated all over again at the
• 1:33:09
  spot because of how important of a position it is in this defense and the
• 1:33:12
  fact that that they didn't really address it. But again, that's a water
• 1:33:16
  under the bridge at this point. I think they're gonna they're gonna draw it
• 1:33:18
  out to answer this question here. I think it'll be a while before we
• 1:33:23
  see them name that starting linebacker spot. So, oh, great comment here
• 1:33:28
  from Steve. Yeah, hopefully we get big early leads so the other team
• 1:33:31
  hasked to pass all the time and we can play dime. I like that.
• 1:33:33
  Oh great question here from Pops who wears the green dot. I don't
• 1:33:36
  know, Um, I actually don't know who's been wearing it in camp.
• 1:33:42
  Um. I kind of should villow that out. I know there was some
• 1:33:44
  talks of Mulana wearing it, but Bobby Babbage just talked about how the mental
• 1:33:48
  linebacker or you know how we're classifying it that Edmonds linebacker. They want them
• 1:33:54
  to wear the green dot. So if it's Dodson, maybe it's Dodson.
• 1:33:59
  If it's spect Or, maybe it's Specter. If it's Bernard, maybe it's
• 1:34:00
  Bernard. I've heard a whole bunch of other possibilities of it potentially being Milano,
• 1:34:05
  of it potentially being one of the safeties, but I don't think that
• 1:34:10
  happens. That's rare for a safety to be the green dot guy. And
• 1:34:13
  then the type of player Milano is, I don't know if that's going to
• 1:34:15
  happen either. That's a great question, um, and one that I'm keeping
• 1:34:17
  my ear to the ground on in terms of seeing what even when they when
• 1:34:20
  they shake it out, and if they name dots and it's a Starter or
• 1:34:24
  Bernard or whoever, seeing if the green dot comes with it, Steve saying
• 1:34:29
  his Babbage spoken yet, I for one will be looking forward to that.
• 1:34:31
  He spoke during mandatory Minicampum spoke about some of the things that they're looking for
• 1:34:38
  from the linebacker spot. Um in terms of it not just being a traits
• 1:34:42
  position. It's all about how they play and how what they look for from
• 1:34:46
  a skill set and from an intelligent standpoint. So he has spoken to a
• 1:34:49
  degree, not recently, but back during MANDATORI miniicamp, Babbage spoke about that
• 1:34:55
  linebacker spot and what they look for from it overall. Appreciate you, thank
• 1:35:00
  you for being here and think for the kind words. That's awesome, man,
• 1:35:00
  thank you very much. So. Yeah, so we'll see what happens
• 1:35:03
  to that linebacker spot overall. From an individual players standpoint, again, it's
• 1:35:09
  tough to be down on anyone, even though the players that I'm high on.
• 1:35:12
  From a stock up standpoint, it's just because it's every day. Guys
• 1:35:15
  are crushing it. Certain guys are crushed it. And that's why I kind
• 1:35:17
  of gave shout out to those individual players stock down. I don't have too
• 1:35:21
  much individually from an individual player perspective, because I don't think anybody has consistently
• 1:35:26
  had a bad day, a bad day, a bad day. Some guys
• 1:35:29
  have had oh good day and then a man day. But that's not enough
• 1:35:31
  for me to say stock down. That's why for this I really wanted to
• 1:35:35
  focus more on the position groups or the structural things like the offensive line holistically
• 1:35:41
  with some players talked about the cornerback two spot overall as a group, and
• 1:35:45
  then the linebacker overall as a spot, because I don't think anyone's had a
• 1:35:48
  bad day to the point where their stock is just trending down. You just
• 1:35:53
  had some inconsistencies and some ups and downs. But the position groups I think
• 1:35:57
  speak to the larger structural piece for this team, especially from an important standpoint
• 1:36:01
  and especially from a go forward standpoint in terms of what they're going to be
• 1:36:05
  and who they're going to be. So oh, and this is a great
• 1:36:10
  comment from Steve, Steve saying, if we play a bunch of dime,
• 1:36:12
  the guy playing Mike will probably be the guy off the field. In that
• 1:36:15
  case, shouldn't someone else have the green dot? You would think so,
• 1:36:17
  Steve, And that is one of many variables that muddy is the entire linebacker
• 1:36:23
  situation. So really good question, one that is in my head all the
• 1:36:27
  time. One that muddies the water is even more about who plays linebacker and
• 1:36:30
  how much dime linebacker they use? So good question. Yeah, I'm definitely
• 1:36:35
  not frustrated about it. Sweet but yeah, well then good question. A
• 1:36:41
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