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- 0:19and All the Realms Castle Black. So this is the say of the Knight's
- 0:39Watch and welcome in and that to another episode of Castle Black, the Blackest
- 0:47Game of Thrones podcast and All the Realms, power by for All Nerds,
- 0:50where we discuss everything in the world of Game of Thrones from the perspective of
- 0:54people of Colore. And I'm one of your hosts, Tatiana King aka the
- 0:57Lord of Lightsabers Lotto Hi Toower Sir Gwayne's world. It was all a dreamfire
- 1:02Tatiana handed the King Kodak, Blackwoods and the Teen of the North. And
- 1:07you may see some familiar faces as well as a very new face old face
- 1:11if you are a fan of season one. Because we're joined by Tahoe Targarian
- 1:15himself of Harder Soft Show and So Shameless Podcast. Tahoe, please introduce yourself.
- 1:19What's shaking, y'all? It is hold on, y'all, got y'all
- 1:23akas down, Let me get my shites, hold on, I wrote them
- 1:26down. It's Tahoe TV of House dragged these holes. It's so, it's
- 1:30so shameless, Siah of so fucking and what Winter is cut. She's cut.
- 1:34She's coming the hard hand with the soft to pirant of Twitter, Larsony
- 1:42of lick Water, the Song of Gun and but a big Brooklyn Blackwater singer
- 1:47of I love the way she do it, do it with no heads,
- 1:52Yo, that's the fucking intro. I love y'all. Man. Wow,
- 1:59what's good? Good? Yeah? I just told him to get his aka's
- 2:01ready right before the show, and this man came through with pure fire.
- 2:07This man is a professional. For those who know or don't know, I'm
- 2:09gonna just tell you something. Tyho has been a longtime friend of the four
- 2:13All O Nerds show. He has been on Castleback Podcast in season one and
- 2:17he's amazing and I really enjoy him and everything that he's been doing. So
- 2:22thank you for joining us, Taho, appreciate you. Thank y'all so much
- 2:24for having me. And of course we have the legendary co host Ben Ha
- 2:29of the Means yes, sirch Boy, dj ben Ha of the Means,
- 2:34Sir Christen coled Is Ice, the Grandmaster of Monch, A man has no
- 2:37shame bent off that alescent biggie small folk little orphan Allen Reride for Reniss at
- 2:44dawn the off white Worm, spend the block on Castley Rock. Catch these
- 2:47hands of the king, and who wants that? These smokes? Dad it
- 2:53is And of course that's probably the smartest person in the room because she already
- 2:57knows was about to happen. Oh my god, Worsha Porsia the Master herself,
- 3:01please introduce yourself. Hi everyone, It's Porsia aka the Master of Green
- 3:06Dreams aka the Three Eyed Raping Claw aka Lady Mary Jane of High Garden AKA
- 3:13It's Rainy, Miss Maylie's if you're ashy, oh god, if you're Ashya.
- 3:24More appropriately, the king is down. We gotta go get the king.
- 3:30I ain't gonna nowhere, nigga. Alright, So listen, we're here.
- 3:34We're here to cry for me. We're here to discuss episode four of
- 3:39House of Dragon. Listen, this is like the Gauntlet, I mean,
- 3:45not Gauntlet, the Gambit episode of s Men ninety seven. So Porsia has
- 3:50some titles for it. She called us ordained ashes to ashes and dust to
- 3:53real bishes, as well as miscalculations. That's all. We've fucking seen this
- 3:58entire episode, and I'm in tears. I feel like when we watch X
- 4:02Men ninety seven and they got my man's gambit. This is how I feel.
- 4:06I'm fucked up right now. I don't know how y'all feel. Tell
- 4:09me how y'all feel about this episode in general? I mean, honestly,
- 4:14I saw this coming. I see, I see, I see. There's
- 4:15a lot of things that I see happening. This is actually what a hundred
- 4:19year ward right this is. This is none of what we're seeing right now
- 4:23has anything gonna be the main thing. Nobody is a sure that nobody.
- 4:30There is no shore house, there is no short counsel, there's no short
- 4:34anything but the fact that people getting their heads cut off and burn to smith
- 4:39fucking rings. I'm amazed episode. I That's all I can say right now.
- 4:47Ben. How you feel? Yeah, it was easily I think my
- 4:50favorite episode of the series. I watched it three times before we recorded this.
- 4:56I thought the direction, the cinematography, the editing, the music,
- 5:02the build up of tension from especially once Ranera starts telling Jase about the Song
- 5:11of Ice and Fire, It's like whoo, it just starts, and then
- 5:15the soldiers walking out on the field and the volley of arrows coming down,
- 5:19and then from there it is just the most one of my favorite sequences of
- 5:24television I've seen. That fucking shot of that dragon's foot going across the field
- 5:30will live rent free in my head for a long long time. Some Jurassic
- 5:33Park shit, bro and dragons. You know, you don't ask for much
- 5:39more. But this is also kind of what I've been talking about for a
- 5:45long time. Is like, once it starts deal and going, it's gonna
- 5:47be terrible. And that's what I've always said. And that's why. You
- 5:51know a lot of people will say, oh, your ideas are crazy or
- 5:54whatever, and I'm just like, yo, well this is what is this?
- 5:59What you want? I don't see. Yeah, we always talk about
- 6:02these dragons part of me, Porsche. I know you probably want to come
- 6:05in, but we always talking about the older dragons and this and the other.
- 6:09But who can stop vigor if if they if Nie has to say the
- 6:14biggest one on her end, who's stopping Vegar. Nobody is this guy is
- 6:18bigger than my Like, this is huge when it comes to Dragon, What
- 6:25are you doing with this? Like? I don't. I don't see the
- 6:28whole big dragging battle that people are talking about we're gonna have. I don't.
- 6:30I don't know where it's gonna when it's gonna happen, when it's gonna
- 6:32yea is it for me? I don't understand it either, because Vegar is
- 6:36the big joker and there's nothing stopping that. No matter what, if he's
- 6:41around, it's quiet for you. So that said, Porsia, you call
- 6:45our Mason because you've read the books, so you you knew this was coming.
- 6:48And I don't know purposely you and say shit to us. But when
- 6:51I say, my stomach was churning the entire episode, and I know you
- 6:56were sitting there fucking laughing, how did you feel I was? I mean,
- 7:00look like Renie's I really enjoyed. I think like this season I could
- 7:05tell that they were really because I knew what was happening with her. I
- 7:09knew that the scenes that we got with her, they really were setting her
- 7:13up to be someone you really cared about. So when they pulled that rug
- 7:15from under you. You really felt that. So I appreciated like they had
- 7:19her go out like so much better. I think one thing about the books
- 7:26that I enjoyed that the show has done is that, like the books are
- 7:28kind of like again from that perspective of the Masters and whoever, people who
- 7:31weren't really there. They get the secondhand accounts from the people who were there,
- 7:35and so a lot of the times the books is going to say like
- 7:39kind of conjecture about like, well, you know, like in this particular
- 7:43sequence the they say that like h Sir Christian Cole and Amon and Agon playing
- 7:53together to ambush Rainy's And so it's fun in the show where they have like
- 7:59no Amond was ready to take his brother out, and like Agon never had
- 8:05a handle on any of this going in the battle that was going on.
- 8:09But the thing that remained constant is Raynie has always been a real win from
- 8:13day one And I think it was interesting that they had set it up last
- 8:16season where she was in the dragon pit and could have taken everybody out,
- 8:20because that was part of the story, like the original story, and so
- 8:24I think that, but it becomes part of the your thought process when you're
- 8:26watching her go through which she goes through in this episode, like how she's
- 8:31not afraid, she ain't never scared to pop up in her dragon, like
- 8:33she's ready to, Like she has strategy, she knows how to battle with
- 8:35her dragon, she has the command, she knows how to fight with her
- 8:39dragon. But yeah, like the it wasn't about to her. It was
- 8:45about her royal, the line of Targarians and not having to go there.
- 8:50She never wanted to have to go there. And then she but when she
- 8:52had to get ready, she was ready. With Vegar, I would say
- 8:58the thing about Vegar a really really old dragon. Begar has been there since
- 9:01Agon the conqueror, the original Targetarian to take over to the West Uros,
- 9:05which has been hundreds of years right right, Vegar is old. Vegar's ornery.
- 9:11Uh, And you can play that against someone. So I wouldn't say
- 9:15Begars and in a penetraal force, but I will say, like, yeah,
- 9:20no, you're right, like it is. It's gonna be really hard
- 9:22for them to figure that out. But you also can't. You have to
- 9:26think about who has dragons, and who's battle ready, battle hardened, and
- 9:33who's likely to pose a threat to begar right right, listen, my I'm
- 9:39sick. I'm sick. I'm sick. You said the rug up on me.
- 9:43I feel worse than that. Banja and I were talking about it the
- 9:46other day and he used this word disgusted. That's how I feel like.
- 9:50There's no other words. What do we do actually disgusted by Rae Ranie.
- 9:56I'm disgusted? Yeah, go ahead. This didn't have to happen. This
- 10:01did not No. Why do y'all think to happen? Why do y'all think
- 10:05it didn't have to happen? I want to I want to hear y'all it's
- 10:07about together. There's for several reasons. But one of the stuff, some
- 10:11of the stuff I'm gonna touch on, is the fact that I feel like
- 10:15she wanted to die. I think it was almost like she was proving a
- 10:16point in a way, because there's to me, there's no other explanation for
- 10:20her actions. And when I say her actions, I don't mean going out
- 10:24there, just this fact of going out there. I didn't want her to
- 10:26volunteer herself no more, but she did because she said, who else is
- 10:28the who else? Who fucking else will go the two or three times she
- 10:33could have left. She could have left the fucking battle two, two,
- 10:37three times, okay, And it was very clear those times, and every
- 10:41time she chose to come back, she looked at me least every time at
- 10:46least looked at her like we doing this? Gee yo? Do you see
- 10:52that they like? You know, you know, we do not have a
- 10:54dog in a race? Are you sure these like little nigga? We already
- 11:01could all them niggas? The fight is one nigga. We couldn't feel that
- 11:07way ta Hawaii. Do you feel that this didn't have to happen? I
- 11:09want to disagree with you on the point that you made. Okay, Rayne's
- 11:16job. What was the name of that castle, russ Keep or something like
- 11:18that, brooks Rest, brooks Rest. She was trying to save that castle
- 11:24from them getting it. If she would have left, Vagar now just burns
- 11:28the castle, they get the castle. She had to play her part in
- 11:31that whole role and her leaving, especially with all of those men at the
- 11:37council that are challenged women's power and the decisions he has a this like a
- 11:43two place that she could go and neither one of them would have came out
- 11:46with her winning so for her, I have to stand like a battle warrior
- 11:52in this fight and go back. I can't just leave because if I leave,
- 11:56I'm not gonna say when I go over there, Oh, Vagar was
- 11:58there? Like, what do you say? Why not the big Joker?
- 12:01I have no spades? Why not? Well, at the end of the
- 12:05day, is I'm discussing about the whole council in the first place. If
- 12:07we're looking at the episode they say even ray Nera says, why Rook's rest
- 12:15or? Whatever's cool? Why there was no need for them to say that
- 12:18in significant castle? Why not actually play a bigger role in actually going the
- 12:24war being aggressor. Y'all are going to save this castle, and y'all had
- 12:28to know. They know dragons is right across from there. They know your
- 12:33dragons here, they know you're gonna show up with dragons. Why send that
- 12:37they they're not stupid, They're obviously they're acting like they're at war. Why
- 12:43play right into their hands? I have the big Joker there, you know
- 12:46that, go somewhere where you know he's not at Agreed, gather more field,
- 12:52gather more land, gather more warriors. This was a stupid play.
- 12:56Agree and nobody on the council said anything to me. Y'all are sitting there
- 13:03battling, trying to go, you know, what are we gonna do?
- 13:05What are we gonna do? But when a stupid move is suggested, nobody
- 13:09says anything, and you just let Rady say, okay, I'll go why.
- 13:15I mean no sense to me. That's what I'm disgusted by. It
- 13:20is historical for Team Black to send people to get eight for no reason.
- 13:26Shut up then, but no, no, but no, I know,
- 13:30okay, you know, I do all these uh somewhat take a contrary opinion
- 13:35to a lot of the norm. But at the same time, in this
- 13:37episode, I pretty much agree with Tahoe, and I agree with you Tatiana
- 13:43that she could have turned around, because I watched it a couple of times
- 13:46and I was really thinking about that. And also I agree with you there
- 13:48Tahoe, that her turning around would have proved, you know, issues with
- 13:52the council. But she can turn around and be like Nigga King dead,
- 13:56Nigga Rag always there and the King is dead. You know, I'll call
- 14:01that a wind, you know what I mean, and then and explain it
- 14:05afterwards because you live to fight another day. And but what she said in
- 14:09the episode prior was once you know that blood starts boiling and the desire to
- 14:13burn takes over. And that's what happened to her, because like Toddie said,
- 14:18she could have bounced man several times and just fuck it. You know,
- 14:22I called a wind. But yeah, I mean there's no glory loss,
- 14:26there's no honor loss. You went out there to your point. Hoho,
- 14:30you are a soldier and you are going to take a stand for your
- 14:33fam I understand You're gonna make it happen, especially in the face of men
- 14:39who are disrespectful. You got to show them. Fine, you show them.
- 14:43Can we go home now? Like we don't need to do this?
- 14:46And that's why I just and I understand this is part of story. But
- 14:50Jesus Christ, like who else and no one? And that's the other part.
- 14:56And all of these people who are sitting in the council right now,
- 14:58besides you know, broke ass cordless, ain't nobody else got no dragon worth
- 15:01nothing, and no one else has experience worth nothing besides ray Neer herself.
- 15:05Now what you your night is gone now? And yeah, you want to
- 15:09talk about Damon Damon's in fucking Luigi's mansion losing his mind. Who else do
- 15:13we have? We have nobody and you we now lost one of our biggest
- 15:18pieces on the board. Now. Also, why didn't Corda Strow with her
- 15:24cor list is a dragon? Right? It's not a dragon writer? He
- 15:26ain't got no dragon he he he a shipwriter. That's what the nigga do.
- 15:30Okay, he's not a dragon. Nigga, better go gets he smoke.
- 15:35Ain't that his son's dragon? You dragon writer? Niggas learn and he
- 15:41old too, like that white worm looking to learn, you know what I
- 15:45mean? Like I get it, I get it. But but bring the
- 15:50ships to niggas something to sell them ships over the take weeks to get there,
- 15:54That's what I'm saying, the old thing. Take them out. Don't
- 15:58answer to a dragon? Is a dragon? Okay, that's the which you
- 16:03got. Like Tyler said, they should have sent more than one. If
- 16:06anything, you know, if you because you know what this is inexperienced Baylor
- 16:11who where the council says you should have burned them? When who's also the
- 16:18death Wish? Jump in there like it's not look look look so who else
- 16:25ben j He you know herself that you ain't got that, you ain't got
- 16:30it like that Jay, she told him, you're not ready for this,
- 16:33and plus probably didn't want to send another son to have something happening. Oh
- 16:37oh wait, wait she okay, she did not know that the freaking wild
- 16:42card was on the play for freaking going to take a message across the street.
- 16:47Like she didn't know that. But like here's the thing with like I
- 16:51thinks all the like already, like he's taking all the notes because it's like
- 16:55that council is so behind and trying to get like they should be ahead.
- 17:00They have all the reason to be ahead and planning because they haven't had someone
- 17:04come and take out somebody's head, un infant head over there they had they
- 17:10all they've had was the Twins kind of tragedy. And I should have put
- 17:12them alerts immediately. Let's get these police plans together. How are you getting
- 17:18taken out by a strategy devised by Aiment and chrisco Like that doesn't make any
- 17:23sense, That doesn't think under I think underestimating Aiment is a big mistake.
- 17:29Now, I don't thinkating. I think that the council is showing how ill
- 17:34prepared. They are, they're trying to talk. They're so busy trying to
- 17:37play this political game of well the woman shouldn't be like part of parcel of
- 17:44this or whatever like that does men handle it all? But what are you
- 17:45handling? Like? What are your plans? Where are your strategies? Because
- 17:48you're y'all been sitting here, Rainier has been in and out. Where's your
- 17:52plans she comes back? There's no plan. It's just, oh, they're
- 17:53gonna go hit Rooks, nest, let's go do something. That's ridiculous a
- 17:57thousand. They had no offensive maneuvers. There's a board here. You know
- 18:03which castles have what you know which ones have passages, you know which ones
- 18:07you could do blockades. They had no suggestions of any offensive maneuver. Everything
- 18:12is we need to send a dragon, where to do? What? Right
- 18:17to do? What to get burnt up? Choked out, stamped into the
- 18:21castle? That's it. That was your plan, that's the big plan.
- 18:26You all motherfuck y'all just sitting around jerkingy kid. I was so like when
- 18:33literally Rainera is the one who looked at the board and picked up the piece
- 18:37and was like, well, why are and nobody else pointed towards anything.
- 18:42Nobody did anything. It's just there was no plan. It's idiotic. It's
- 18:48it's idiotics. It's complete incompetence. Yes, besidesnist like the stupid men that
- 18:56think we're gonna like which I have plan, no plan at all. Just
- 19:00women shouldn't rule. That's it. That was there playing women shouldn't rule.
- 19:03It's ridiculous. So I'm beside myself because I just like, where do you
- 19:12go from here? I got a question for a Porsche on on this note
- 19:17on the not being on the incompetence, but on ray Ray and everything that's
- 19:22going on with her, because I was reading on I think Twitter this week
- 19:25and I saw people talk about how the show is portraying ray Ray is different
- 19:29from the books, like in the books because there's this whole thing like last
- 19:32episode she sends the dragon eggs, and now the show's producers are saying somehow
- 19:37those are the same eggs that Dannaria's dead sisodah, like okay, but at
- 19:41the same time, and they're making this whole thing like, you know,
- 19:44she saves the Targarian and everything. But yeah, in the books, from
- 19:48what I understand, it's not the case like she's more like she's ruining.
- 19:52I mean, the Targarians fall because of her, And I don't know,
- 19:57the show seems to kind of be getting there too, because you know,
- 20:00she's making bad moves and well, Portia, what how is the book portrayed
- 20:06her versus how the show is portraying her. Is it like aligned or is
- 20:08it different? I don't think that, like, I mean that possibly might
- 20:15just my opinion. I don't think the books portray her as her being the
- 20:21ruin of the Targanians, like I think her primary thing is that she again,
- 20:26this is what we're seeing in this episode. She keeps being on the
- 20:30side of reactionary instead of front and because she keeps being reactionary, she's not
- 20:38And it's all coming from a place of like this is not supposed to be
- 20:41happening, and she needs she needs to like it's online, it's happening.
- 20:45Let's go girl, Like we're here, she's not there, and the books
- 20:49there is more you kind of get a bit more calculation. But I'm not
- 20:53sure that we're not going to get that right, Like we're not in the
- 20:56place where she like she hasn't been with her counsels. She's been away from
- 21:00her council, so we should be seeing some actual thoughts within the next couple
- 21:04of episodes. I also would not things are they appear a certain way for
- 21:15Agon and his dragon, what the books say happen versus what the show's gonna
- 21:21do. I wouldn't count, That's my question. So I didn't count when
- 21:27she saw as the end all be all, I didn't think. I didn't
- 21:32think he was that. Here's why I do. And I know not all
- 21:33Tigerians, but a lot of Tigerians are, you know, like like the
- 21:37immune to fire, like we see that with Denaris and never resistance or resistance.
- 21:41And when you see a homeboy Agon on the ground, he's not burnt
- 21:47up to toast like the regular people on the battlefield. The people who got
- 21:51lit up by the dragon on battlefield are ashes that ashes, right, there's
- 21:55nothing left him. He's barely like he got some black smoke on him,
- 21:57but it's his whole body intact. There's nothing wrong. And the dragon barely
- 22:02alive, but it's breathing too. So I was just like, I don't
- 22:04think Agan's dead all the way. That's Kiston. Why do we know that
- 22:07Raynie is dead? They had the same full. It's the exact same full,
- 22:11and that's why I think he might be dead. And also the I
- 22:15was just thinking about this on my last watch, the fact that Hole falls
- 22:18to his knees and doesn't run in there like my king, my king.
- 22:22Yeah, you know, it's kind of like why I thought maybe he is
- 22:25dead. And also because of Amon, you know, was going in with
- 22:30the knife to finish the job and then he's like, ah, no need
- 22:34for that, and that's what my thought. But it could be a red
- 22:38herrns could be. It could be everything you said that. You know,
- 22:41Amy was going and finished a job, got caught by cold and cold,
- 22:45you know, dropping his knees uf. But it also could be cold,
- 22:47could be in shock like this nigga made it. Yeah, it could be.
- 22:51I think it's still questionable because the camera also purposely didn't go to Agon's
- 22:56face, like it went barely over the ridge of the the tail of the
- 23:00dragon, so you can kind of see a body, but it wasn't it
- 23:03wasn't torn up. And to your point, how I just assumed because that
- 23:07was a height and when it comes to Renice, that was a height she
- 23:11fell from. I don't know if they fell from the same height, but
- 23:12her dragon's bigger, and she fell on top of the castle that she you
- 23:17know what I mean, her on the castle then a giant ass dragon.
- 23:21The fire may not bother her, but it's just I don't know, it's
- 23:23and them niggas is coming through either way, they coming through and stabbing that
- 23:26dragon and stabbing her up too. The look on her face that she fell
- 23:30as well, like the resignation of it all. And she was just like
- 23:34she was like, well, that's it, I'm done. She do this
- 23:37on purpose. I mean her dragon was dead that at that point the resonation
- 23:41is, you know, like, what else is I mean, if my
- 23:45dragon died, I guess the Corla saint enough because that was you know,
- 23:48that was it. It was well, she was already over callers because of
- 23:51the whole Allen the Bastard situation that we're gonna get to in a quick second.
- 23:56But I think also, and I'm trying to use the content schools of
- 23:59how they they match up the dragons to the writers, right, like the
- 24:02dragon is almost the heart of the writer. If your dragon's dead ten times
- 24:07out of ten, excuse me, nine times out of ten, you probably
- 24:10did too. So for may least to be like done. I felt like
- 24:14and to your point, Porsche, the resignation on the face, I think
- 24:17that's it versus Eggon. Dragon was technically still breathing. It was the last
- 24:22type breath, but it was still breathing. So I was just like,
- 24:23I don't know, I have a question, and I don't want to take
- 24:27the show where y'all don't want to go, but keep going. I need
- 24:30to ask, Yeah, y'all. It was suggested that Raynera might be the
- 24:36fall of the tar Garians. This is what Ben said that he read on
- 24:40the internet. Are we not going to put Damon in there? Like they
- 24:45go hand in hand? This is what we know that this is a targarian
- 24:49war, right, This is this is what we know and we've seen with
- 24:53his lack of responses, with his lack of any general moves. This is
- 24:59a guy who's truly battle testing, actually won several on his own and come
- 25:04out and you know, brought money to the crown. But when the show
- 25:11starts, he's cutting the crown off of somebody's head. We I don't know,
- 25:15if y'all want to go goes into old acts that he is actually if
- 25:22anybody, the one that's really testing right here right now, like would be
- 25:27the fault with his with his indecision, lack of showing up, leaving her
- 25:33open because they were supposed to be there. Damon, Damon could have been
- 25:37there. He absolutely could have been there. He got a real lass dragon
- 25:41that could have did some real ass ship. He sees the vision of himself
- 25:48as Ammon or Amon and it so it's like he knows that, yeah,
- 25:52he needs to deal with this, and he's you know, because he hasn't
- 25:55dealt with it his whole life. And this is something that we didn't talk
- 25:57about that much last week, but toders that he cuts the head off of
- 26:00little Ray Ray. You know, it's like he hasn't dealt and then the
- 26:04witch brings this up. You know, does he see her as this little
- 26:07girl and because he couldn't control her as this little girl anymore, he can't
- 26:11fuck with her because he's like, now she's a full grown woman. I
- 26:15can't bounce her on my knee like I used to. I shouldn't have to
- 26:18listen to this woman. And it's just pretty much the same thing with Damon.
- 26:22He sees this nigga as this little kid. I mean, I mean,
- 26:26just amen, amen, Damon. So he sees Aimen as this little
- 26:30kid, and he's like, you know whatever, and not realizing. Like
- 26:33I also say again, Puts, do not underestimate this nigga. This episode
- 26:37showed you. Aimen is about, like I always say, you know,
- 26:41I'm not on any side, but I'm for people who play the game right.
- 26:45Aimen is about that game life. Like the nigga studies history. The
- 26:49nigga knows you know, warfare, He understands some refuge. He understands everything
- 26:53about the game. He don't. He does not get emotional. You know.
- 26:56He sees his brother riding in, He's like, fuck the throughom out,
- 26:59no chill, we gonna we got this because he rushing right there,
- 27:03No none of that. He just waits and then sometimes you gotta pop out
- 27:07of show. Niggas, you know what I mean, like facts facts.
- 27:11I didn't I would say this. I never underestimated Aiming. When he got
- 27:15Vaguar in the first place, went out in the night and ended up bonding
- 27:19with Vaguart, I was like, oh shit, this this kid's gonna be
- 27:22a problem from time immemorial. He's gonna be a problem. I was thinking
- 27:26about that nigga the other day when that niggas like yo, I lost a
- 27:29nod by again to Dragon, like you got to end the story right there.
- 27:32That nigga's you know, the future school shooter. This nigga's a problem
- 27:36ki. It's like, you know, watch out. He's an upgraded version
- 27:37of Damon. And that's also why I think Damon's having a visage because he's
- 27:41realizing it, like he's you, but better. He's you if you was
- 27:44a real nigga, like if you was on your ship and showed up when
- 27:48we needed you to show up. This is probably you know I'm saying,
- 27:51like he's the one with strategy, He's the one with the plan. He's
- 27:53the one that's making us happen. And Aiman got his own plans as well,
- 27:56like all the people who wronged them in the past, they get in
- 28:00it one way or another. I have a different view of it, but
- 28:03I'm very interested in Porsha's face. The Mason knows Porsa. Do you want
- 28:11to go first or do you want to hear my lunacy? I can hear
- 28:15what I would like to hear. All the points before you guys brought up
- 28:22uh the way this was shot. Mm hmm. That was one of the
- 28:25things that you guys love about it. The direction I want to think,
- 28:29I want to bring up the symbolism. Yes, uh for me, Damon
- 28:36and Younger and Era, that's an issue. For him, it's his battle
- 28:40with the love he once has versus the battle with his perceived right to the
- 28:47throne and the betrayal in that correct. So cutting that head off and that
- 28:52crown is what we saw hit the floor. We didn't see the head hit
- 28:56the floor. We saw that crown. They focused on that crown floor.
- 29:00And then immediately after that it said there's a raven which he hasn't sent.
- 29:06Not that that really matters, but he wakes up with blood on his hands.
- 29:10Yes, that meant something to me. And then too, thing that
- 29:15we see is him seeing Aimen. So for me, these are three demons
- 29:23that he has. Before he sees Aimen, he even sees his h dead
- 29:27wife. Right, No, he sees Aimen. First, he sees he
- 29:32beheads young Niera, he sees a black goat, which also has significance,
- 29:37and between that he does seem as Damon. And then at the towards the
- 29:44end he sees his dead wife Lena. He sees Lena at the table,
- 29:47at the table servant. So to me, that just shows that he is
- 29:51being tormented by which way to go? What is his real drives, what
- 29:56are his real loves? What is his real regret? All of these things
- 30:02are tormenting him in this castle, none of which shows any sense of loyalty.
- 30:07By the way to rain Era, not one moment of it shows any
- 30:11sense of loyalty there, you know what I mean. Like, so what
- 30:17happens with Damon to me is very important with him at Haron Hole and actually
- 30:22escaping Haron Hole if that happens, And I'll leave that to portion. Yeah,
- 30:27so this is the thing, right, This is the dance of dragons.
- 30:30This is the end of the Targarians having dragons as dragons in west Ros,
- 30:36basically dragons in the world of the Song of Ice and Fire. And
- 30:41I think that's important to think about too. We keep hearing them bring up
- 30:45the Song of Ice and Fire, like Agon's original dream for wanting to be
- 30:49in wester Ross in the first place, and that Song of Ice and Fire
- 30:52prophesizes the prince that was promised, who is interpreted to be John snow Right.
- 31:00So that's the that's the final in game. We already saw the final
- 31:03in gameplay out for better or worse in Game of Thrones. What we're seeing
- 31:07now is why the Targarians were never gonna be able to just reign over anywhere.
- 31:18They the doom of Valeria. They weren't even like there were so many
- 31:22different dragon leadership or whatever that was happening in Valaria where they're actually from,
- 31:26like back in the old days, they weren't even the top of the count.
- 31:30Then they just happened. They came in with dragons to West Uros where
- 31:33there were no dragons and took over. That's how they conquered everything. Right,
- 31:37So with Damon with Aimons, there's like this thing with Targarians where like
- 31:45in I guess like you kind of see it in Game of Thrones with Dinaris's
- 31:48brother of Visaris, how like he says, I have the blood of the
- 31:52dragon. I'm the blood of the dragon that comes from somewhere, that comes
- 31:56from this old age where there were dragons around, and like Targarians where they
- 32:00would say that they were like, I'm the blood of the dragon. And
- 32:04if anyone has that kind of attributes in this series, that is damon and
- 32:07that is aimen. But that's the thing about being the blood of the dragon.
- 32:12They rage into that blood real quick. They're not like as much strategic
- 32:16as they can be, as much thoughtful as they can be. They don't
- 32:20give a lot of leeway and like thought into like sitting down and actually pulling
- 32:27it together. Sometimes they like they they know you can play on their rising
- 32:34blood blood of the dragon crat so as much as like you can have a
- 32:37moment and then being strategic, being battle ready. Boom boom bam. I'm
- 32:42good for them, I'm good for a fight. People can use that against
- 32:45you. You're never gonna be You're never gonna be completely safe from getting yourself
- 32:50in a position where you're not the big guy on the field. One day,
- 32:52you're gonna get God. I have to say, then if you say
- 32:55that, then the people who have the Blood of the Dragon, as is
- 32:59what's said in this episode is also Ray Ray and Renise, because it's shown
- 33:04you know, Ray Ray reacts and doesn't think, and then Renee in this
- 33:08episode really reacting and didn't think when it really mattered, like sadly and it
- 33:14hurts, but you know they have it as much as them if anyone like
- 33:17I still say that, you know, I think for Ray, Ray,
- 33:21what are you talking about for When did she react that way in this episode
- 33:24when she sent Renee to docor like you know, and she said I'll go,
- 33:28yeah, And when she said I'll go, when she didn't think,
- 33:30It's like she did not think. And that's been my whole thing with this.
- 33:34And this is something else that is brought up in this episode with Alice
- 33:37inside of the story is that like this is going to happen no matter what.
- 33:44People were going to challenge her for the throne. The problem is she
- 33:47sits on nuclear bombs and she was going to let them loose no matter what.
- 33:52As well. That's why I keep saying over and over that I just
- 33:54don't feel that she's any more fit to the crowd, despite what people say
- 33:58about her being merciful, because people were going to challenge her eventually, and
- 34:01eventually I feel like this would have been her response, or it would have
- 34:06been the people around HER's response, which is the other problem, because she
- 34:08did marry this mad man and you know, doesn't look after him and doesn't
- 34:13think about it as anything, and so, like Tatiana said before, doesn't
- 34:16think about her actions and words as queens either, which is something really big.
- 34:22So it's just you know, this was going to be the result no
- 34:24matter how, you know, Viceras's original thoughts went. And that's why that's
- 34:30what Allison says. And that's why I still kind of, you know,
- 34:32move with Allison, even though she also has a bunch of vidiots and mad
- 34:35men around her. At least her council keeps moving when ging around when a
- 34:37gone around. But you know when it's like I will, yeah, I'm
- 34:43living on that line, but we're gonna close the book on that and keep
- 34:45it moving. You know, I'm not gonna sit here and be like it
- 34:47should be mine, it should be mine, you know. It's like,
- 34:50no, I have to hold this no matter what. Yeah, and you
- 34:57could have probably figured this out. But the black Goat symbolism, it's a
- 35:00lot of mainly demons, satan, fear, and anxiety. It has spiritual
- 35:07significance just like it's representing the negative influences or forcers forces that you're trying to
- 35:13overcome. And then the personal symbolism, like based on your own experience,
- 35:19believes in the emotions everything that you're going through, that you're trying to conquer.
- 35:22And we see that in everything that Damon sees this entire episode. So
- 35:25I was just like, it's just cooked. I see a golden a dream.
- 35:30I'm like, oh, I'm the greatest of all time. Well this
- 35:31is a black There was a difference still the same. I mean, you
- 35:35know for me, Wow, y'all think that Nie really wanted to die though
- 35:43I don't. I don't know. I don't know, but I feel like
- 35:45she knew that was there's no other path. As a warrior does, as
- 35:51a real warrior does back then, that is your charge to die in battle.
- 35:57Yeah, you know what I mean. And it just isn't a sense
- 35:59of strength and she is a battle test warrior to run and say, hey,
- 36:02this happened over there. You know, we want a little bit.
- 36:06No, you die in battle, that's what they do. I want to
- 36:09know, what if what do y'all think her finding out about Corlis's bastard son,
- 36:21right? Was there a connection with this this whole thing? Well,
- 36:25for one, Corlis didn't want he didn't want Jace or Bela what's the other
- 36:32girl name Raina. He didn't want Jason or Bela to be his heir because
- 36:37he thought they was too soft, and then here comes out of nowhere Alan,
- 36:40right like now, all of a sudden, he shifted his focus because
- 36:44remember in the other episode, Rinice is telling him, Yo, you need
- 36:46to figure out who your air is going to be. You need to write
- 36:49your will, my guy, because you know you were clearly you almost died
- 36:52in the last battle. You need to get this ready and get this purpose.
- 36:55And he's making all these excuses for why his blood that she knows he
- 37:00don't want them, and now here comes his bastard. So I just think
- 37:04that's like it could just be another thought, like from a woman's perspective,
- 37:07just like once again the nigga's undermining me, Like once again you're thinking I'm
- 37:13stupid, like in that way. Now that if it has any connection with
- 37:16the fighting and all that stuff and the decisions Nice makes, I don't know.
- 37:21But it's like she also tells him, you know, you need to
- 37:23let Alan know who he is, yes, because she's stringing him. He's
- 37:28dragging it and stringing him along. Not really you know, like Alan don't
- 37:30know. Alan wants nothing to do with none of this. Remember Alan was
- 37:32trying to dip from beginning, okay, and while we were talking about Alan.
- 37:37Something I realized this episode is this this negro is probably shaving his head
- 37:42every morning, and that's why he's hiding his white locks, because oh he
- 37:46might have the hair. Yeah, and because it just I was like,
- 37:53okay, naturally ball, But then it's like he knows everyone knows, so
- 37:59he can't let that be known. He can't be out there. Yeah,
- 38:02but he does know, so that means he does know. I mean he's
- 38:06a growing ass man. His hair is grown white, if it's growing at
- 38:07all, Like, yeah, he does. Yeah on Corless's ship, not
- 38:13knowing that's your father, that part, like, you know, I think
- 38:17he'd been known. I think most people know, well not most people know.
- 38:21I think the people who know who need to know. No. I
- 38:22think Corliss k new. I think Rainie's new rest in peace. And I
- 38:28think that Alan obviously knows his uh brother in quotes. I'm not sure if
- 38:34that's really his whole ass brother or like Ala Master. So this dude might
- 38:37be a bastard as well, and you know, half might have different fathers,
- 38:43you know, which would definitely eliminate him from being targarian. If he
- 38:45does have a different father, which he probably does, so, yeah,
- 38:49I would go, but we also know, well, yeah, a different
- 38:51father. You're right, because you know Raynier, his sons have black hair,
- 38:53but they're technically of the blood. When Corlas came and was just like,
- 39:04oh, you saved me, oh your favorite, Alan was like fuck,
- 39:08I don't want to be a part of this. But Alan does know
- 39:12that that's his dad. No, I don't know. I don't know.
- 39:16I think so like why and ray Rainie had known long before this as well.
- 39:24Yeah, she hadn't She didn't know what he looked like or anything,
- 39:27but she been known that this nigga had a kid by yeah, because she
- 39:30says it. She tells him the way she yeah, the way she approaches
- 39:34him, and the way she's like, you should let him know who he
- 39:36is. You know. She's like it was him who pulled you out,
- 39:38Like she knew of him, you know. She was like, oh,
- 39:42it's oh this nigga pulled you out of the water. Nigga like fuck and
- 39:45was speaking to the captains like and first of all, I did get weirded
- 39:49out at first when she touched him. I'm like, I know you like
- 39:51chocolate, but that's not sure. It's like what's going on? Yeah I
- 39:54was, And and again the writing was exceptional because we had a lot of
- 40:02those like like questionable moments and then just for it to be revealed a second
- 40:06later, and it was like, oh, like, you know, why
- 40:07would she do that? Why would she be so forward on this man like
- 40:10she she she feeling him like that, only to be like, your mother
- 40:14was so beautiful. When she said that, I got confused then till the
- 40:16next line when she was just like, I know who he is. And
- 40:19I said, oh, but I think that she And again we're gonna have
- 40:24to look yo, Puscha is so variused. It's so it's so variused.
- 40:31Bro, It's is crazy because I've just been looking at her face and she's
- 40:35like, but do you think that ray Nice would approve of Alan being the
- 40:45air over her children? Because remember she has a history of being looked over.
- 40:50You know, her whole thing is being looked over. That's how she
- 40:53exists since the beginning, Yeah, be looked over. So now where he
- 40:58choose a bastard son as the air over her children, do you think that
- 41:00she would approve that? Well? I don't know, But that's also leading
- 41:05towards what I was saying earlier just about how like once again, here's this
- 41:08nigga doing nigga ship, Like about how from a woman's perspective, how that
- 41:13feels when your own, you know, partner does that ship to you and
- 41:16he's doing it again. And to all those points. I don't think that
- 41:20Rainey East was ready to die. I really think it's what she said last
- 41:22episode that that raids to burn, that you know, the blood of the
- 41:27dragon was flowing through her and she was like she prepared to die as a
- 41:30warrior. She wasn't sending herself off to her kids still being there, you
- 41:36know and everything. I don't think, you know, Rainie's is too much
- 41:37of the mother to do that. But it's just in that moment, when
- 41:42is she a mother. I've never seen her around them kids, none of
- 41:46them compared to anyone on this show looking and nobody's a good mother. She's
- 41:59the world, you know, it's not a lot. Yeah, her grandkids.
- 42:05So it's like like the people tend to be better to their grandkids than
- 42:07their kids. Well that's a goddamn shame, you know, that's true.
- 42:15No, I'm just saying for her because that means she did know mothery for
- 42:22the grandkids. So yeah, well, sorry, is there a chance I
- 42:29know you don't want to talk forward, but is there anything to Alan possibly
- 42:34being there? I think that that again. So I was talking about like
- 42:37Raymie's getting her scenes early on the season, so you can get like being
- 42:42ready to have your rug pulled under you, I think. I think with
- 42:45this, I'm wondering about how far as this episode happened. I got really
- 42:51excited because I was reminded about where this book, where all this comes from
- 42:57Fire and Blood, it ends with the all of this results and the new
- 43:02generation being at the helm of the realm right and a lot of the things
- 43:10that are happening now, of course, are going to build into that final
- 43:14thing, but we we don't know in book form, like the intricacies.
- 43:22We know like what we know how the things have get passed on and who
- 43:25gets to the nearest's age, but we don't know the different little things that
- 43:30happen in between yet because they kind of like left us off there. So
- 43:35I know up to where this all ends, who's gonna have the helm?
- 43:38Who are the last one standing? And House Valerian is still standing, it
- 43:44still has representation, and bastards are abound in West Gross and they tend to
- 43:52be the ones people turn to when things don't go well. But then that
- 43:54starts its own issues later. So where we're a hundred years before Game of
- 44:00Thrones, just one hundred, it might be two hundred, okay, Yeah,
- 44:07so it would take a long, I mean, way too many seasons
- 44:10to like roll right into the beginning of Game of Thrones. Yeah, I
- 44:14wouldn't want to do that. But I'm saying, like, there's something about
- 44:16where this conflict ends. You have to see the ending of the conflict,
- 44:20right, but then you don't really want like where it leaves off in the
- 44:24book, You don't really want it to just sit there. Yeah, and
- 44:29I doubt it does. As big of a hip this is, Yeah,
- 44:30I feel like they're gonna go a little at least a little further in a
- 44:34little bit. Yeah, because like how in your estimation, how many seasons
- 44:37would it take to finish the book right now? If they don't stretch it
- 44:43out too much. If they don't stretch it out, we could finish this
- 44:45season with a big chain with a big, big upset, and maybe do
- 44:55one more season and get to the end of the book. Okay, and
- 45:00the ten episodes or a episodes, and it does another thing. But they
- 45:04weren't doing a lot in these aids, like they've putting a lot of stuff
- 45:06together. They have, and we're at the halfway point an episode four.
- 45:08It's only eight episodes. So to me, it's like when Alison with her
- 45:14moon seat, she said, it's only been weeks since Viscaria's has been dead,
- 45:17right, so this has only been weeks, which is crazy. And
- 45:21I also that line. I was like, well, bitch, you was
- 45:22jumping on the next dick in the same few weeks, so what are you
- 45:25talking about? But that's not what is weeks? You know what I'm just
- 45:32saying, not like that, but I'm saying, how many weeks? It's
- 45:37weeks? You know, that could be nine ten, you know by their
- 45:40instamation, Yo, would you be cool with your wife fucking somebody else in
- 45:45nine weeks after you die? Like before the Christians, so it's even been
- 45:52it's been nine since she'd like know that she's pregnant, probably, but would
- 45:57you be got that was your your woman, Sir Christian Cole of all people
- 46:05that matters, Sir christ By the way, by the way, again,
- 46:12I hate to jump brown, but He's fucked because not only was Amon's mom
- 46:20pregnant by you, now the master knows that she was pregnant. Right,
- 46:25the guy that named your hand is laid down, broken into pieces. Aimon
- 46:30had actually has sights on this throne. And I would definitely think that the
- 46:36entire council, everybody is going towards aiming. That's what it is. Yes,
- 46:42when he finds out that Sir Christian Cole was fucking his mom with his
- 46:46fucking nephew got killed. Are you kidding me, Sir Christian Cole is,
- 46:53I cannot wait. He's when he went down on his knees. That wasn't
- 46:58about the king, damn. Now what he was like? Wait, we
- 47:02had a plan? Oh ship did he just and he saw the saw tried
- 47:09the king. He was looking. He didn't see him get fried. I
- 47:13didn't see him get fried because he saw the sword. He saw him with
- 47:15the sword. Ready, remember Cole Cole bowl cut fell out. He he
- 47:21knocked his head and fell out, so he didn't see and right, oh,
- 47:23right, when when Vegar first came down with smashing on people, that's
- 47:28when Cole got knocked out. So he so he did sped. I don't
- 47:30know because okay, that's what That's what I was saying earlier. The masters
- 47:36only have second hand accounts from the field. Everyone thinks that what happened was
- 47:39that Agon and Amon planned together to bring their dragons, so nobody on the
- 47:45ground saw what we saw. We're getting a bird's eye view of what happened
- 47:50with the dragons. People on the ground don't know what happened with the dragon,
- 47:52okay. And then but what he did see, he did see Aimin
- 47:57Wolf with the sword, presumably by to got got you know what I'm saying,
- 48:01Like I Aiming at the end of the day, thinks and feels of
- 48:07most of his family is a bunch of imbeciles, Okay, particularly a goon.
- 48:10Agon was the one who was constantly bullying him. Agon when he was
- 48:14over there, when Damon was sucking at the tee of his woman. Here
- 48:16come Agon with the frat guard, talking shit, you know what I'm saying.
- 48:21And that was how they they've been their entire life. And Aimin's that
- 48:24type that's like that. He's a Capricorn. He's just gonna buy this time
- 48:29and when it happened, when the time comes, you gonna feel it.
- 48:32He forgives but never forgets. Absolutely, and let's not forget Sir Christian Cole
- 48:37was feeling itself at that council table told Aimon, no, I'm going you're
- 48:43staying like the fact that they formed some kind of alliance behind the scene.
- 48:47Let's not think that Aimon really fucks with Sir Christian Cole. You're right,
- 48:51let's forgot about that. Your ass is you and my eye too. I
- 48:54would say eyes, but it's aiming You're in my eye too. I'm going
- 48:59to get you too. So first is a gone and next it's cold,
- 49:07and so I would I would assume and Portia I'm looking at her. I'm
- 49:09not sure if I'm right, but I would think that. So Christian Cole
- 49:13is about to be fucked, hope. So because he keeps making it out
- 49:15a lot every episode, another episode with Colon line. Once again, he
- 49:20can't keep getting away with this. He got the goal as not really,
- 49:24I've never been in the Cole fan club, you know, I'm in the
- 49:27Allison fan club, but not really the col fan club. And I had
- 49:30to say that bitch nigga putting them hands on his armor. This episode was
- 49:35really over the top for me. That's when I was like oh, this
- 49:37nigga got to go. That nigga got their little hands circling. Oh yeah,
- 49:42the hands on the other hand of the king down here in the necklace,
- 49:44the hand chain that's his Cuban link. And he almost got GWayne killed.
- 49:47And that was that was another step too far. And then when we
- 49:51go back to the idea of symbolism again, like Cold, just a few
- 49:54episodes, Agal was talking about, you know, your cloak needs to be
- 49:58white, you know, because of the puri of the King's Guard. And
- 50:00when you see Cold cloak, it is a mess. It's dirty, it's
- 50:04trashed, it's it's it's bloodied, and it's and and everything else behind it.
- 50:07And then you just see him just yeah, he's doing it in the
- 50:10honor of the king agon, but like he's doing some dirty ship and the
- 50:15way he's moving it's just like the honor that's supposed to be. Like the
- 50:19guy that he ends up beheading, the Darkly's yeah, the Darkly leadership.
- 50:23He was just like, you're not even fit to wear that ship because he
- 50:27know coal ain't ship at the end of the day, Cold ate shit.
- 50:30I love that he said something about it. That's a creation of the cloak
- 50:34and it's like, yes, the creation, that's I mean, he was
- 50:37a powerful word. Like you don't just say that to any old body,
- 50:39like unless they're unless they are garbage. Okay. Also, uh to t
- 50:45house point, I was just thinking about something. Aiming is at the meeting
- 50:49when they're like they were calling col king Maker right, Yeah, they're finding
- 50:52him enmaker on the field too. Yeah, I know, but that was
- 50:55it for Aiming. That's it. He's like this nigga, Okay, yeah,
- 51:00we're gonna see bet so so so Tahawai. I'm thinking I'm thinking back
- 51:07now, I know what you're saying. That you're right when they had that
- 51:09Council meania an episode ago when Amen was like, oh, I'm gonna go
- 51:13out there with Vagar and Cole was like, no, you're not. Was
- 51:16that a true disagreement or was that sleight of hand? Because for them to
- 51:22then have this episode later, for them to have this plan that oh,
- 51:27we're a secret Vagar are gonna be there, because you remember, no one
- 51:30knew that Aiming and Vegar was there except for Christian except for Christian. So
- 51:34was they playing a game in front of the council to make it appear one
- 51:37way and then at the battle something else. It was a secret plan,
- 51:39as we all know now, Aiming was playing coal at the council. You
- 51:43think, okay, yeah, Amen's like, oh okay, word bet,
- 51:46that's Aiming, you know, like you said the Capricorn, he gonna sit
- 51:50and wait. He's like, oh okay, bet and then hear that King
- 51:52makership bet like it's all you know, like word all right. I mean
- 51:55he's you know, like this Nigga's the one, like I mean, I
- 51:59know he could be taking advantage of just like anybody, but you know,
- 52:02he is a plotter first and foremost, and this Nigga is someone who knows
- 52:06how to take an l to take a win later, you know, like
- 52:09here he's yeah, he's one of the ones to watch. I definitely don't
- 52:15think Aimon would lower himself to trust anybody, especially Christian hell. I just
- 52:22don't. I just think that he rules in darkness. He knows his mom
- 52:25too already, he been knowing that. Everybody know. He's like Darth Vader.
- 52:30He's like, he's you're not gonna I'm not gonna be on your team.
- 52:34I'm that guy. And so just the idea that you would think that
- 52:37you all at, I'm gonna I'm gonna humble is what I think would be
- 52:40to tell you he has the biggest weapon, literally, like who's gonna fuck
- 52:45with him? I just think that for this battle, that was the battle
- 52:51that we saw them, because we saw Christian and Amon speaking together by themselves,
- 52:55I think this is what they were planning. So I don't think that
- 52:58like again, because Christian knew that he was laying in weight and he was
- 53:01like where is he whenever? Like signal. So again, this plan that
- 53:07they put together together, that was something that he devised with Christian. It
- 53:12wasn't something that like he was like, oh, I'm gonna pop up and
- 53:14be there like he was, oh no. But then Aimon changed the plan
- 53:17halfway through and he's like, I'm gonna put this because Agon changed and amen,
- 53:23and everyone realized this and this this this podcast right here. Amon wanted
- 53:29Agon dead. He always was thinking about that and trying to figure out a
- 53:34goon just made it easy for him because this wasn't in the plan. But
- 53:37he said, well, if God's gonna tem me this cards, I might
- 53:39as well playing. He said, you think that a goon like Aimon was
- 53:45goating a gon into this because whenever they were in the council meetings and he
- 53:51kept playing like I'm going with my dragon, I know where the battle plans
- 53:54are, I know what I'm doing. Do you think he knew he could
- 53:58set his brother off to like actually do something stupid with his dragon. I
- 54:01mean, on one hand, I say yes, but then on the other
- 54:04because he is that smart and he is that cunning. However, his his
- 54:07response when he saw egg and fly overhead was one of surprise, like what
- 54:12the fuck are you doing here? So it can't be both right, it
- 54:15can't be old. I plodded this and there goes my brother at ten fifty
- 54:17two right when I schedule. Like, no, not like that. I
- 54:21just think he's con They are both constantly, you know, egging each other
- 54:24on. But the point, no, no, not not today. I
- 54:30just know that, e Vinci, if I keep fucking with this nigga,
- 54:31he's gonna do something stupid. Yeah take the game that specific No no,
- 54:36no, no, no, not like not right in that moment. No,
- 54:37I didn't think he was like, yeah, this worked out. Sweet.
- 54:40Now. It was more just like okay, like you said, you
- 54:45know, oh damn you damnly twenty one like he plan, like he fund
- 54:50the plan but also played into Amin's plan, like his long game plan.
- 54:53He just you know, truncated a timeline like well, I'm not gonna kill
- 54:57you two weeks from now. I'm gonna kill you now, and that's it's
- 55:00the perfect time. Like who can say is what? It's a battle,
- 55:01that's what happens in battle. The fog of war, there's always things going
- 55:06on. You don't know who's who, you don't know who's fighting want there's
- 55:09fire and flame, there's fucking t rexes everywhere, Like what are you gonna
- 55:13do? Like, oh, I've seen ammen kill his brother? Did you
- 55:15know? Nobody? Like they're so high up in the air and it's so
- 55:20quick that who would have known what happened there? It was quick and that
- 55:23you even and again for the cinematography and the effects because when they're close to
- 55:28the dragon, it's interesting. You everything seems to like move like they're in
- 55:30water right explomotion, But when they back up, like when you see them
- 55:34from afar, them dragons is moving pretty fast. It's like if you've ever
- 55:37seen raptors what they call like like like eagle type birds, like birds with
- 55:40talents and Claus. Have you ever seen them fight? They're fast as fuck,
- 55:44okay, and they're literally going at each other like that, clawing,
- 55:46grabbing each other's talents and doing death spirals like and Darren want to let go
- 55:51right and to the point where both of them may die. And they completely
- 55:54mirror that in this fight when you see the dragons fighting, throwing fire at
- 55:59each other, and the dragons ain't a perfetes of this ship either. It's
- 56:01also like cats fighting too, because it was like when they grab on that
- 56:05neck and they just until something dies, and then it's immediate like oh,
- 56:09you're done, you know, let go you and keep moving. That's so
- 56:14crazy, Yeah, because that's why it was so like I was. I
- 56:16was. I have to plaud the restraint of the graphics team in this episode.
- 56:21I know people are like, what because I seriously thought he was about
- 56:24to bite that head off, and I was really happy that they didn't go
- 56:28that far. Even I thought they was gonna it was gonna be another Luke
- 56:31situation, but you know, may least just just just build off the wing
- 56:35or try to bite the wing, like you understand, Like I thought it
- 56:37was gonna be, oh, just chomping up rings. Oh no, I
- 56:40thought the head of Maylease was gonna go off, like I thought, maybe
- 56:45yes, you know, away from that again, going back to aim aiming
- 56:52and Sir Christian Cole the moon tea, why would they show that? Why
- 57:00did we need to know that? Like, okay, is that gonna come
- 57:05back up? Is my thing? Like is anybody gonna find out that she
- 57:08was fucking so Christian Cole? And who would be the person to find out
- 57:13and have a real problem with that at this point Laris who found out,
- 57:16Well, Lari's also knew. I feel like Laris has all He's the massive
- 57:20whispers, so he has people in every corner of that castle under his thumb.
- 57:24He knows what's going on. He'd been new and we had said a
- 57:28little bit ago. A lot of people do know. They just keeping on
- 57:31the low. But the people know that there's something going on with Cole and
- 57:35Allison, and Larys just keeps seeing what I realized Laris is doing. Every
- 57:38time he sees Allison, he points out the clues and the shit that he
- 57:44sees, like he makes it known to her, Hey, bitch, I
- 57:46know your dirt. Yep. He makes it very apparent to her, like
- 57:52don't think you can stray too far, like you know what they say in
- 57:54this show, mind your tongue, because he's just I think he's like giving
- 57:58her little brayer comes every so often like eight, I got you, like
- 58:00she I will back you into a corner if need be, Like every time,
- 58:05it's like, there's no reason for him to say that, right,
- 58:07there's no reason for him to be. Like the other time when she almost
- 58:10missed the counsel, he was just like, Oh, my people's told me
- 58:13you was indisposed where you've been at. Why did he have to say that.
- 58:17I love the little details like that are popping up, Like one you
- 58:24see what's the name call out the King's Star being imbeciles, and then when
- 58:29they come into the room, you see them bump into each other cause they
- 58:30are. And then you also see Allison tending to her own fire because she
- 58:37doesn't trust anyone anymore. So I'm really thinking that by next episode or the
- 58:42episode after that, we're gonna see Hella rats in the castle because they also
- 58:45mentioned in this episode the rat Catcher's still being dead and nobody's replaced him because
- 58:50they ain't got no resources. So you know we're gonna see this shit falling
- 58:54apart around them because and now the king is, you know, either dead
- 58:59or gravely injured. So how important is Larius to this story in y'all opinion?
- 59:05Because I first thought that he was Alice's person. Now he's Agon's person,
- 59:10Laris Laris, so he's a little Finger. Larius is eating them feets
- 59:16person, Laris is whatever gets him to eat them feats. No, Larius
- 59:22is, Larius is Larys's person. Laris killed his own family, understands like
- 59:27Lari's burned down his own castle when I burned down, do you understand,
- 59:30like gutted that shit? Like Laris is for himself. I don't think he's
- 59:34anybody. He uses people as pawns in his greater good. I don't know
- 59:37what his endgame is really. I don't know if he's a little Finger type.
- 59:40But little Finger literally wanted the thrown at that point, Like, I
- 59:44don't know if Laris wants that, or he's the type that likes to be
- 59:46the shadow government. Yeah, I think Laris is more likes to be because
- 59:51Laris is club foot nigger, Like, I think he knows his limitations for
- 59:54the most part, and he knows it's better to you know, stay around
- 59:58while different kings take the throne and come and go. What you think?
- 1:00:04What you I'm reminded like as this call this whole like second part of this
- 1:00:08conversation has been reminding me about Lord Barris his riddle that he asked about where
- 1:00:15does power lie? Yes, and the answer being power lies where we think
- 1:00:21it lies. And how much I recognized that, Yeah, it's a game
- 1:00:23of thrones, but is the throne actually the power is the seat of power
- 1:00:29actually getting and taking the throne? Who actually held power holds power? He
- 1:00:35thought it might have been in the hand of the king. You might thought
- 1:00:37it. We thought it might have been auto height tower. That's incorrect.
- 1:00:40We in a moment that for a quick moment, that was Aimons. He
- 1:00:45took the king out. That's where the power light in that moment. For
- 1:00:50a moment it was Raynie. She had the upper hands and against the king
- 1:00:55for a second. Right, So there's where does power lie? Is continue
- 1:01:00to be what is gonna happen and who's gonna align because people tend to move
- 1:01:06where they think the power is. How are the people when they see where
- 1:01:10the power is sitting or heading, gonna move? And who holds the power
- 1:01:16in this moment? Is it Alison? Is it Faris is it Claris?
- 1:01:23Is it Damon? Does he have something? Like? Is it Alice Rilvert
- 1:01:27Rivers? Who is the like witch? They're at heron hall, Like who
- 1:01:31holds the power in this moment? And where are they gonna take it?
- 1:01:36You mentioned Alice? Is she? Remember we thought it was on some sixth
- 1:01:38cent ship that she was but she actually just a witch that's just been alive
- 1:01:43for one hundred, you know, hundreds of years, and it's just fucking
- 1:01:46with Damon, Like what is she? She i? Alice Rivers is so
- 1:01:52her last name is Rivers, which means she's a bastard like John Snow he's
- 1:01:55a bastard because and so they're all, yeah, they all have like last
- 1:02:00of whatever, like territory. Yeah yeah, So okay, children of the
- 1:02:08Forest, that's where the magic power is with the werewood trees. She said.
- 1:02:13So it sounds like a set up, sounds a good trap because he's
- 1:02:15hitting on a bed made of the ware wood from the tree the heartswood,
- 1:02:20right, So clearly so he drinking drinks that you're not supposed to take a
- 1:02:28drink from a stranger, like what is he doing? What is going on?
- 1:02:30Damon's desperate yes and grasping its right now, and I don't I think
- 1:02:37she definitely has I don't know how old she is whatever, but I definitely
- 1:02:40like the first time we saw her in that meeting, I don't think that
- 1:02:43was her. I think that was the dame in seeing her or seeing themes,
- 1:02:47and who knows if she was there that night when he had the dream.
- 1:02:50You know, it's a lot of things going on with her. But
- 1:02:52I definitely think that he made a big mistake taking that drink from her.
- 1:02:55I think he's just making a lot of mistakes. But I also think that's
- 1:02:59just you know, like he is like porsious that he's definitely probably the most
- 1:03:04on this show with the blood of the dragon in him, and he just
- 1:03:07a wild boy. And like I said before, he's a pit bull off
- 1:03:08the train and leave a pit bull off to chain. Go ahead. Somebody
- 1:03:15asked me, if that girl is the three eyed raven of this time,
- 1:03:20it could be. I would not say that. I would say that the
- 1:03:25children again, children the forest have a lot of power. So if again,
- 1:03:29if I don't know how much y'all remember the Krenickmen. But the ones
- 1:03:31that like were guiding Brand, the ones who were like the younger it was
- 1:03:37like the brother and sister. There were the Cavemen, there were the bannermen
- 1:03:39of the winter Beel. Yeah, that's because in the river lands at this
- 1:03:45time here they're also followers up again, Uh, that belief in theology,
- 1:03:51there's this one, and there's the one of the seven, which is the
- 1:03:52sept and all of that or whatever. Alice Rivers is tapping into the with
- 1:04:00the heartwood trees, the ones that of the old gods that the Winterfield follows,
- 1:04:04right, and so there when she says whenever Damon asked her, ask
- 1:04:09her who she is, and she says, I'm an ol reborn or whatever
- 1:04:13into human, I think she's making an allusion to her being an award,
- 1:04:16like the way that Brand was where he could like pop into like different ravens
- 1:04:20and whatever. Yeah, I think she is one of those two. So
- 1:04:25I think that's the like her saying she can be in places that you don't
- 1:04:31expect her to be because she can have that sight, so she doesn't you
- 1:04:34don't have to be the three eyed raven. Is this whole other lore.
- 1:04:39This is like this higher power person. She can just be a ward like
- 1:04:44that just existed by just doing things. Okay, yeah one of them kids,
- 1:04:47wasn't one of the kids who came to get brand. Weren't they a
- 1:04:49ward too? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, damn. And another person who
- 1:04:55I'm I want to make sure we talked about, who's literally in the shadows,
- 1:04:59Missaria. If there was a quick scene during Raynieres's council situation where Massaria
- 1:05:04peered up from the darkness and she was, you know, ears open.
- 1:05:10What's her role in all this? What is that? I did not understand
- 1:05:14that she said she made us see that that was the most off I mean,
- 1:05:17I know what it was about, but that's it was just such a
- 1:05:19weird, you know, she's like way to insert her right there through the
- 1:05:25trees and to give her no lines in the whole episode was also Yeah,
- 1:05:29but they wanted to make it a parent that we know that she's there,
- 1:05:32that she's you know, like when we talk about these people in the whispers
- 1:05:35and the shadows and where the power lies and all that stuff, how is
- 1:05:39she and as far as we know, she's another one like Larry's where Massaria
- 1:05:42is for Massaria, she say to Rayniera, Oh you know, maybe I
- 1:05:45could, you know, can I be in your council? Can I be
- 1:05:47with you know? Can I help you? Since you let me go?
- 1:05:49Let me free? But I'm also just like is she's like she's just still
- 1:05:54dabbling in her own keeping her own self safe, yes, and also gaining
- 1:05:59power, like because we never see the answer to her being let on the
- 1:06:03counter or not. So maybe she's their spine for Ray, or maybe she's
- 1:06:08their spine for her own accord. You know, we also know that she's
- 1:06:12potentially one of the people who might get this dragon, so she's always looking
- 1:06:15to a mass power herself. I don't think she's doing for the throne.
- 1:06:17I think she's just like more like Laris, for she knows her limitations.
- 1:06:21She just wants to make sure that she stays alive. Okay, all right,
- 1:06:28yeah, I think so Master Whispers talking about little Finger and little Finger
- 1:06:33was about himself and the end, and we knew little Finger was about Catlin
- 1:06:41Stark to an extent and obsessed with that to an extent. So you can
- 1:06:45see the exception. But Faull being played with his counterpeart in this series Larius,
- 1:06:50right, we saw because for his feet with the feet with Varius like
- 1:06:58he was for the realm. He wanted the realm to be safe. He
- 1:07:03wanted the realm to like to He saw like his well being being honored if
- 1:07:11he was able to safeguard wester Ros. Is that a mirror to miss to
- 1:07:17her? Possibly? Is she also just in it for her own? Like?
- 1:07:24Does she? Again? We know she ties to Essos, so she's
- 1:07:27like from Essos. She spent a good amount of her time going she has
- 1:07:31her scar. Possibly from there, could she be playing into a longer game
- 1:07:36that's multi consonant kind of thing. We don't know. I think, like
- 1:07:43you said, I think that is a good point that she could, because
- 1:07:45she always brings up to people too, and she was more distrusted by,
- 1:07:48like you know, the burning of her house and what that did to all
- 1:07:51the people who worked there and et cetera, and how it affects people than
- 1:07:55anything. So I think she's about the people to an extent that she can't.
- 1:08:00But we also see what happens when she gets more power, because that's
- 1:08:03always the problem. Once you get there, then what happens. That's okay,
- 1:08:10I feel that I'm I'm interested in seeing where she comes in. They
- 1:08:12wouldn't showed her for no reason. There's a reason they show her. So
- 1:08:15I'm like, I'm like, what was that for? I can't wait to
- 1:08:18see it. I'm really kind of like they still have been shown outo in
- 1:08:21two episodes. So the Old Town he chilling like, well, you don't
- 1:08:29want me here, I'm out the same people because he was over it.
- 1:08:31It's the same episode they sent off Reina, right, so like they took
- 1:08:34two players of the two pieces on the table off at the same time.
- 1:08:40We're probably going to see them soon. You have to, like you have
- 1:08:44to hear an update about their journeys. But they're up to right. You
- 1:08:46haven't seen Helena, so Helena. Yeah, we need to check in with
- 1:08:51Helena. There's the other son and he has a dragon too, right that
- 1:08:56out of wanted to go check on Darren, Yes, so hmm. So
- 1:09:02Anna was saying that like he was gonna stop by somewhere before he would see
- 1:09:06him because it was like he's staying at Old Town. So he's gonna stop
- 1:09:11because again they're still trying to get people to pledge to their cause. So
- 1:09:15he's gonna go round up like we're high Garden and all of them Martinists on
- 1:09:18the way to old Town. He's gonna go trying to get those people to
- 1:09:21pledge in the cause. Let me ask this question since I mentioned Helena,
- 1:09:26and since Taho's here because we asked this. I asked this question to the
- 1:09:29group last episode when Helena looked at her mother, I don't know how to
- 1:09:32know her was like, I forgive you. And it's like, what you
- 1:09:36know about Helena is she sees visions and be knowing things ahead of the time.
- 1:09:41When what was she forgiven? Alison for right? So just think about
- 1:09:45that what your answer would be today. In this episode you also see Alison
- 1:09:48breaking Visa's dragon m she drops it on the ground, and that was symbolism
- 1:09:53in that was there any connection there? And just in terms of like we
- 1:09:57were trying to figure out what was she saying, what was she forgiving out
- 1:09:59of? Or was it it can't be the obvious, which is you fucking
- 1:10:02bull cut right? Is it something else, something yet to be done?
- 1:10:09I think that it was something yet to be done or there was again an
- 1:10:14overall like you did this to us and then the breaking of the dragon that's
- 1:10:19literally again from you lying about Vissera's and having that moment with If you're saying
- 1:10:26that she can just see things and just knows things from a mother's point of
- 1:10:30view, I could see her just being mad at her mom for starting all
- 1:10:32of this shit and basically ruining with their family. Everybody's gonna die. I
- 1:10:39don't see your high towles making you out of us alive. I don't either,
- 1:10:44I would say me personally. It's for everything, all the decisions,
- 1:10:46all of the weaknesses, selfishness, the move you made with your vagina.
- 1:10:53Yeah, everything everything that, everything you've done to get us to right now.
- 1:10:58This is your fault. But I forgive you. That's what I would
- 1:11:00say. I would also agree to that. Was that statue some fire statue,
- 1:11:04because that would be I don't know exactly. I just realized it was
- 1:11:08right. It was a dragon, so yeah, it could have been damned.
- 1:11:10That's it was the novel though, was it? It was nothing?
- 1:11:15Actual? Consul take it was. She was in this So remember she was
- 1:11:19in Visara's room because she was looking through his books. She was she was
- 1:11:23asking about his stuff, and like she she's I don't she. I guess
- 1:11:25she's looking for some knowledge somewhere and she was saying the prince that was promised.
- 1:11:29She's missing something. She doesn't know what this. She was trying to
- 1:11:31figure that out. She was playing with his whole Lego said she do't never
- 1:11:34be in there any other day, and even Lara said that. Lara said,
- 1:11:38I never knew you cared about this ship. Why are you in here?
- 1:11:42Well, because she now doubts, she knows, she doubts. It's
- 1:11:45so funny that when your mother starts doubting the sun, the sun perceivably dies.
- 1:11:49Like even told him, like, bro, just stop, like,
- 1:11:54we don't need that thing. We don't need you here. You're just a
- 1:11:57figurehead. And in her head, you shouldn't even be here. I thought
- 1:12:00you were supposed to be here, But now I know that you ain't supposed
- 1:12:02to be here. And now I need to find out what this legacy is
- 1:12:05so I could try to correct whatever the fuck I did, even if it's
- 1:12:09just to keep me and my family alive, because if this prophecy is real,
- 1:12:13you're gonna die. Right. You're not the person supposed to be there.
- 1:12:15You're not this is, this is she needs to see how far this
- 1:12:18goes, right. She's a planner. She's a high tower. Otto's daughter
- 1:12:23their planners. So now she's like, oh, ship, there's more than
- 1:12:26this. Where do I stand and where do I fall? So that's what
- 1:12:30I would do, and then her son just miraculously falls out the sky.
- 1:12:33And then both of them were pushing things off the tables, like she dropped
- 1:12:35the dragon and he pushed it in the bottle. Amazing, you had a
- 1:12:41dragon on it, like yeah, it was like you did a picture of
- 1:12:43a dragon. It was another dragon dying. Yeah, oh there it is
- 1:12:46two dragons dying. Wow, things breaking three? What where where was the
- 1:12:53other dre There was a dragon on a pitch on the picture that when a
- 1:12:57gone before he ran off to go put on the armor, he was drinking
- 1:13:00his little life away a little and so feckless life away, and he knocked
- 1:13:04that over. There was a dragon on it. And then as we said,
- 1:13:08Allison dropped the dragon statue. Let me go look at this, and
- 1:13:13he's like, when you see this ship out the back, it's like fuck.
- 1:13:15And that was also a really dope shot of him pushing that flagging or
- 1:13:19whatever off the table, because it's like he's pushing things to the limit.
- 1:13:24You know, he's sitting there and that's what he's always been doing as a
- 1:13:26king. He's always been testing his limits as king, and he always oversees
- 1:13:30his limits instead of knowing his limitations, like I talked about before, and
- 1:13:34because of that, you know what the man gets. Also, speaking of
- 1:13:39that battle one that I mean not the last time, but just when the
- 1:13:42dragons are fighting, and I love how Malise Les tries to use the same
- 1:13:47tactics both times on both dragons, and it just doesn't work as well on
- 1:13:51the bigger dragon because you know, Rey Arkin survived a hit, and they
- 1:13:56made you see how hopeless that fight was. Because when you first see at
- 1:14:00least going after sunfire, some fires, this tiny little Chihuahuah compared to Malease,
- 1:14:04right, a Lease is the rock whiler, right, Okay, fine,
- 1:14:08but then you have a rock wilder against like a king corso like it's
- 1:14:12just kinda it's just like telling you, like the levels of how bad this
- 1:14:16can be and how deep this can go and how to your point, how
- 1:14:20horrific. Then and you're right, like, I don't this is the last
- 1:14:24thing I wanted to see. I did not want to see the You don't
- 1:14:27want to see the family feud. It's horrific. Bro. When you've seen
- 1:14:31Vegaar going at Mayles, I was like, nah, run run, but
- 1:14:43that's acrid what I was doing. Its accurate. That is for scale what
- 1:14:46you up against. That shot of Vagar coming over the trees and my man
- 1:14:51saying you need to get to cover what's that not the scientists from Jurassic Parks,
- 1:14:57Yo, we got to get the fuck out of here. That's there
- 1:15:00were so many shots in this one, like that shot, even the shot
- 1:15:02of Vagar when you know he got telling you when he's like wait MegaR and
- 1:15:06the lays back down. Cat. Uh. So dragons can decide when like
- 1:15:17to be like their gender or whatever. But in generally Vegar is a girl
- 1:15:21is a girl dragon, so they so territorial, like you know, territorial,
- 1:15:27and possibly the eggs that Deniaris is gonna end up with Mike could possibly
- 1:15:32be Vegar's basically Okay, So in Portia, the thing about Vegar being ornery,
- 1:15:39like I said, when when he was like, now, Vegar,
- 1:15:41you got a chill for a minute, was like, man, I guess
- 1:15:44Nigga like it was like it was very cat, can't we move it?
- 1:15:50But then Vegar is also like you say like cat like he's like, I
- 1:15:54guess, but at the same time word nigga I because that's how cats are.
- 1:15:57They will wait, they will sit there in that ground and you would
- 1:16:00just be moving around like a little mouse or whatever field mice and then whap
- 1:16:03when it comes down toward or lying, you know, same difference like and
- 1:16:08like you said, the female lions are the ones who do the hunting.
- 1:16:11So and then oh, one other point, I did want to make sure
- 1:16:15the use of high Valarian language in this episode is very you know, they'd
- 1:16:19be they'd be skipping around when they want to use it or not. But
- 1:16:21they've made it a point that every other major scene they was using the high
- 1:16:27Valarium. With the scene with Damon with Raynier or young Raynier haunts and him
- 1:16:30and her him like talking about I can't understand you, like what you said,
- 1:16:35the whole part that he can't control her no more. That's this is
- 1:16:38not the little girl that he groomed and had did other shit too, and
- 1:16:42and and builds up to try to take over. Right, he has no
- 1:16:45power over that. When Agon's feeble attempt to use Valaria, I did not
- 1:16:50know that Nikka couldn't speak his own language. And my problem was, I'm
- 1:16:55like, this is my thing, Like possibly Larius is on it. Possibly,
- 1:17:01There's no way y'all gonna be speaking the language in front of me the
- 1:17:04whole time in the I'm in like the castle, and I'm not gonna figure
- 1:17:09out a couple of words, at least if I'm not a freaking like Targarian,
- 1:17:14I'm gonna figure out something. Council was like tennis matchless. Yeah,
- 1:17:20the councilor knew exactly what, especially the master. You know what a master
- 1:17:24knows, you know, Lars, the other two niggas all turned their heads
- 1:17:28with them. It wasn't like they waited, No, they all were like
- 1:17:30word that. Yeah, oh I guess you are so. I was like,
- 1:17:36but I felt like it was like a dressing down. Basically. It
- 1:17:40felt like it was like em and being like like higher hand, like I
- 1:17:43got I know the language better than you, and I'm gonna talk to you
- 1:17:45in our Targarian language. And just to make it more frank because I and
- 1:17:49it's like you would think he was doing it to be I'm gonna dress you
- 1:17:53down in a way that these people can't understand. But it's like no,
- 1:17:56they understand me better than you do. Nly, the council's reaction shots in
- 1:18:02this season have been hilarious because last week when he was like, I'm as
- 1:18:08tough as all them, there were I don't know about that nigga, And
- 1:18:11this week when they're like back and forth on that nigga was just comedy.
- 1:18:16Whose council wins this? Oh, easily, Green Green Council. They're the
- 1:18:23only ones making moves at this point that's been making moves. You know,
- 1:18:27whether they whether they're being used as pawns in their own game. The fact
- 1:18:31is they're making moves and they're sitting grenarious. Council has been sitting on their
- 1:18:36hands. Taho. You said it earlier. They over there, and what
- 1:18:40what did Corla say when he stepped in the room. He was just like,
- 1:18:43y'all squabbling and grousing for power. Y'all not doing nothing worth nothing.
- 1:18:46You're sitting on your hands instead of making plans, instead of being strategic.
- 1:18:50We are reactive to everything. We're always fucking behind. That's the part that
- 1:18:56makes me mad about all this. Even from near it, I'm just like,
- 1:18:59y'all are behind, We're in war. I'm gonna disagree with y'all only
- 1:19:08because as I being a person that shoots video, I always pay attention to
- 1:19:15what they're showing me. Right, they're showing me something for a reason green
- 1:19:23Agon versus Aimen versus Christian Cole. That is something that is self destructive,
- 1:19:30and that absolutely especially when you have Allison with all of her unsurety, like
- 1:19:35all of her not knowing what the fuck is going on. There's a lot
- 1:19:40there, even with Ido Hotower on the other end, Like there's a lot
- 1:19:43there with people fighting amongst each other but being very strategic at it. When
- 1:19:47you're that strategic at it, everything can crumble. Right, they're showing us
- 1:19:51the weakness in Black. Why they've shown no strength. We can't just believe
- 1:19:58that they're just gonna be weak this whole time. Like I refuse to believe
- 1:20:03that they're just gonna be like this week's entire time. So there will be
- 1:20:09strength added to Black that they're gonna be going. I totally believe in what
- 1:20:14happens after the halftime, first half, cool, third quarter, that's where
- 1:20:19the game is. Third quarter, right, Yes, then you have Pronhole.
- 1:20:25You have the strongest fighter of them all. He has no counsel,
- 1:20:30he has no counsel, but he wants something. So I look at this
- 1:20:35as a three part war as of right now. Personally, I'm looking at
- 1:20:40this as a three part war. Damon is not Black, Damon is not
- 1:20:42Green. Damon is Damon. Yeah, and he's a wild card for me
- 1:20:46right now that can affect either one adversely. While they all have battles in
- 1:20:53house, yept. While y'all going Green, I'm gonna still stay with Black.
- 1:20:59And to be clear, I'm not team Green. I was just answering
- 1:21:01the question about who has the upper hands right that. I've never been team
- 1:21:04Green. They're definitely to Black over here. I'm not even and I do
- 1:21:10believe in what you say that they're gonna come back. I'm talking about as
- 1:21:13it stands right now. Yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. Yeah,
- 1:21:18But to your point, they cannot. This cannot just be the end they
- 1:21:20could. This just cannot be how Black goes out, and we know that
- 1:21:25because it's only episode four, but this also cannot be it. It's got
- 1:21:28to be another way. Also. Yeah, for those who are confused out
- 1:21:31there, I've never really been team Green either. I've never been lies Team
- 1:21:35Allison's Sam. Damn sure, team Man. Did you see her this episode?
- 1:21:43She was looking good, But no, I've always been Team Allison and
- 1:21:46really team Otto and really Team Rainis. Those are my you know, people
- 1:21:51who I felt were playing the game most effectively so far throughout this show.
- 1:21:56I also say something else, like Tahoe said, you know, we're both
- 1:21:59the rect and writers, and we're only on the halfway point of this season,
- 1:22:04but we also don't know how many seasons we have. And because of
- 1:22:09that, and like I keep saying this, because they've portrayed ray Ray as
- 1:22:14the protagonist of this show, the end of this season is probably going to
- 1:22:17be terrible for her team as well. And the other thing that people forget
- 1:22:24and that Georgia R. R. Martin has said, this is a tragedy.
- 1:22:27This whole story is a tragedy. This is not something that's going to
- 1:22:30end well. It's kind of like how we talked about Infinity War, where
- 1:22:35an Infinity War, Thanos is the protagonist, even though he's the villain of
- 1:22:39you know, to us, he's still the protagonist of the story. He
- 1:22:42drives the story's action and it ends on a tragedy. It's only because we
- 1:22:46have endgame that we have something else. But there ain't gonna be no up
- 1:22:49on this. This is going to end badly for everyone involved. Question for
- 1:22:55Porsche and for you guys. I'm sure you guys remember this of Thrones.
- 1:23:00There was a line and I don't know if if I'm getting the name wrong,
- 1:23:04but was it remember what they did to Raynero or some ship like that?
- 1:23:10Like? Was this something? There was like a line? Am I
- 1:23:15wrong about that? Do you remember the context? Like where? Like who
- 1:23:17would have what that was? It was in the last season, and I
- 1:23:24believe, I believe it. I can't recall the only problem though, I
- 1:23:32can't tell you that none but right that mindset, so it was a remember
- 1:23:40what they did to ray Narrow? Remember ray Narrow? What happened? Right?
- 1:23:44Somebody betrayed her some Yeah, something happened where it was some bad,
- 1:23:47some fucked up ship that somebody did to her. And I don't really remember
- 1:23:53what the context is. But I have another question real quick for Portie.
- 1:23:59The high towers do survive this, right, the high towers of old Town
- 1:24:05that is? But consider yep, that again that's her brother, yeah,
- 1:24:14and there's other children, and he's the second son, like Otto is the
- 1:24:17second son. He's not the high tower has the tower. He's the second
- 1:24:21son. But Allison's brother survived this fight because I thought it seemed like I
- 1:24:27was at his voice when he was leading the rest of the rest of the
- 1:24:29army through the broke down. But he's he was like the you know,
- 1:24:34so I thought he made it through. Now that Nigga tell On Nigga to
- 1:24:38go to seven Hills and you know he survived after that, and that niggas
- 1:24:44done with everything. Also, I want to make one quick note because I
- 1:24:45keep calling Damon the pit bull, and pitt bulls are actually wonderful dogs half
- 1:24:50around your children, Milers and king Corsos. This is also true inside.
- 1:24:58I know, I know I've been pitbull for a few weeks and I want
- 1:25:00to but I do want to say, dam it, It's more like a
- 1:25:03child could fuck them dogs. Them niggas is evil terrorist dog childs are monsters.
- 1:25:15But I mean, I see your picture on the bottle of moon Ti
- 1:25:17Okay, the kids teeth fuck them childs? All right? Have we have
- 1:25:26we touched on pond everything? Like, do you'll have any predictions for the
- 1:25:29next episode. I wanted to note that the first time we saw Vagar was
- 1:25:35in an episode called The Princess and the Queen, and I thought that was
- 1:25:40fitting that the first battle we see bag because like taking out was not a
- 1:25:45battle. The first battle that we see is Ray like nice, who is
- 1:25:53a princess who never became queen. And the first battle we see Beagar take
- 1:25:58someone out in is taking out a queen. Another on that note, another
- 1:26:03little detailed loved was Rainy's walking through and everyone's stopping what they're doing and bowing
- 1:26:10until she was out of eyesight and then going like the one black dude was
- 1:26:14pulling something along and my man's standing there bowing and then she goes off.
- 1:26:17He's like, come on, keep going. And they respect her, you
- 1:26:19know what I'm saying. They respect her authority and all that other stuff.
- 1:26:21And it's all these little details that are really dope on this show. And
- 1:26:26she's loved. That's another thing. But any and she's loved. That's something.
- 1:26:30It's not like you know, they're doing out of fear anything. They
- 1:26:32really fuck with her, right, they know she got sense and then the
- 1:26:35one person was sense and uh, you said what we see next episode finally,
- 1:26:42this Nigga Cord is doing something like you know, because Nigga gonna be
- 1:26:47tight and he's gonna when he find out Rainie if she's dead because you y'all,
- 1:26:51y'all pulls that. Maybe she's not, but I think she's gone.
- 1:26:56I think it's some gambit shit like I think I think that. Yeah,
- 1:26:59when them eyes closed on that dragon, it was over. Like that was
- 1:27:01it for her and the dragon. That was it. Oh. My prediction
- 1:27:06for next episode is we finally see something happen between rain Erra and Damon because
- 1:27:15there's there's a certain betrayal at this. Yeah, it's there's been death,
- 1:27:18there's been war. I've been in King's Landing, You've been over there doing
- 1:27:23what So something turns, something changes, He makes some type of decision,
- 1:27:29Something becomes clear to Team Black about Damon one way or the other. I'm
- 1:27:35not sure what it is, but that's what I'm seeing. I'm assuming it's
- 1:27:40going to happen, and I'm unfortiate. There's not too much you can tellus
- 1:27:45about giving things away. But from a book master perspective, like are we
- 1:27:49following along as this tracking? I know things have been changed for the TV
- 1:27:54shows from the from the book is are we still tracking along or have they
- 1:27:58like made a complete upset. We're still on at what they decide to do
- 1:28:03with Agon is gonna be interesting. That'll tell me if they're like bearing off
- 1:28:06the book or not. But I think we're pretty much on track. Uh,
- 1:28:12what's next? I think what like next episode? I think is it's
- 1:28:15interesting because I feel like the miscalculations that have happened that you were shown here
- 1:28:20in this episode, it's like again we see this is like an a this
- 1:28:25is all some of all the different things they've mis calculated along the way,
- 1:28:29And it's cool because it's kind of like the miscalculations are based on people's moral
- 1:28:34compass, Like people have miscalculated based on where they feel things are supposed to
- 1:28:40go or should go, rather than actually like paying attention to some pieces possibly
- 1:28:45or just like thinking the next step ahead because of what they think should happen
- 1:28:48next. So I think we're gonna see a change at least or a clarification
- 1:28:56on people's moral compasses and how that's going to eat them for the rest of
- 1:29:00the season. That's good. Ray Ray needs to get it together. When
- 1:29:04we say people, I hope she means Rayny career. I really hope that's
- 1:29:10who is the person that's willing to go to war. Finally, like,
- 1:29:13oh girl, get up out your fun. What is wrong with this girl?
- 1:29:16She's making me mad? She was moving, Okay, this is my
- 1:29:19issue, saying that Raynie was clearly like a good strategic head for them.
- 1:29:26She was also like, to be completely frank, Raynie was sitting for Targarian.
- 1:29:31She was like, this is how's Targarian. I'm not trying to see
- 1:29:33my house fall this is the issue though your house has already fallen, like
- 1:29:39you already are at two different pieces. You're not one house anymore, You're
- 1:29:43two different pieces. And so she guided Raynierra was following the voice that made
- 1:29:48the most sense, which was Rainie. But Raynie put her in the position
- 1:29:51to be going to King's landing and trying to get clarification when that's not what's
- 1:29:55needed right now. So when it comes to strategy, like do you put
- 1:30:00your house first or do you put actually winning a game first? What is
- 1:30:05the actual strategy that needs to go forward? And all? Right, on
- 1:30:10that note, I got that same question then, because this is something i've
- 1:30:12you know, I've said before, and I just really want to ask And
- 1:30:15since Tahoe is here, I can ask was there any other like if if
- 1:30:19Ray Ray had just been like from the gate, you know, being like,
- 1:30:23Okay, Allison, you got this woe. Allison's not going to come
- 1:30:27over and chop her head off, right, got what the queen? You
- 1:30:31know? Ben has been asking if Rainier just laid down, like when when
- 1:30:38all this discrepancy happened about I'm supposed to be the heir and then they put
- 1:30:41Eggon on the throne, he says, he he posits, what if Rainier
- 1:30:45just said, fuck it, let's let's give it to Aggon and Allison,
- 1:30:48and then what would Alison? How would Alison have responded? Would there be
- 1:30:53peace and the standady? Because I and there's it's trying of two part question
- 1:30:56because this is also brought up in this episode. And this is something I
- 1:30:59you know, feel about Ray and her whole line is that they have a
- 1:31:01huge Massah complex, you know, and because of that, they're willing to
- 1:31:05do anything because they think that they're going to save the world if their line
- 1:31:10stays in empower. Now, the problem is one we've already seen that that
- 1:31:13ain't the case exactly, you know, like it's not really how it goes
- 1:31:17down in the end. But okay, if we don't know that, they
- 1:31:20think that so they really It's like someone being told, you know, you're
- 1:31:25gonna save the world if you keep having kids, and not only that,
- 1:31:28if your kids become president. You know, every day everything are you?
- 1:31:30Are you feeling that never should have just laid down because of the No,
- 1:31:34I don't in her nature too, because she has a Messiah conra. I
- 1:31:39know that, But what are you saying though that. I'm just like asking,
- 1:31:43you know, what would have happened? Like, like I always say,
- 1:31:45I feel like what the what her issue is is how she reacts like
- 1:31:49me, I would have laid down for a while. I would have been
- 1:31:53in the amin, you know, I would applauded instead of just being like,
- 1:31:56no, this is mine and everything's mine and it should be mine,
- 1:31:59you know. And that's how I feel acts reacting this. It should be
- 1:32:01mine is the problem. You know. That's because nothing is yours and there's
- 1:32:05no should in this world. And that's what I feel like. Her mentality
- 1:32:10is still existing on it it should instead of you know, it will be
- 1:32:15because I'm gonna make the right moves to get it. No, that's harbor
- 1:32:18horrible play, Ben, and I hardly would tell you that what you think
- 1:32:24is horrible? What's that? I just feel that you don't like what you're
- 1:32:28saying. This is in the game of Thrones, any contention or any contender
- 1:32:33to the king to the throne needs to either needs to either bow down yep
- 1:32:40and give it up completely or be eliminated. This is what this is.
- 1:32:44I say the same thing, so I don't to the throne. So Raynera
- 1:32:51lives as an heir, is like, this is who she's always been,
- 1:32:57Right, you understand what I'm saying, Like, regardless of whether he named
- 1:33:00it when she was eleven and he died when she was seventeen or whatever.
- 1:33:03Right, this, she's always been the king's daughter. This is who she
- 1:33:08is. Right when the king died, half the realm didn't know what was
- 1:33:15what They didn't So for her to lay down would only give the high towers
- 1:33:20room to make it. Okay, I get you, Yeah, I got
- 1:33:26so. Raynera would have had to come to court and bend the knee,
- 1:33:30give up all claims yep for her, all of her children, her side,
- 1:33:38And even then, I'm not sure amman or a gun would have let
- 1:33:43them alone once they got around to it, and it might have killed them
- 1:33:45anyway, because you have a you know, a legitimate claim, right,
- 1:33:51so she had to fight, right. I don't believe that. I don't
- 1:33:55believe. And then the fact that they have dragons. They always wanted draggs,
- 1:34:00No High Tower kids wanted dragons. Yeah. So the fact that Raynera's
- 1:34:04family have the dragons and you have the dragon eggs, and you have all
- 1:34:08of that, and you see that even in trading, they're like, well
- 1:34:12give us a dragon, right, So it's like you have too much power
- 1:34:15over there. But I say, okay, you don't want to be queen
- 1:34:18no more, we'll leave it. I doubt that never let that threat sit.
- 1:34:23Ever, I definitely don't think Aimen would. I think Allison would be
- 1:34:27You're right, Aimen definitely ain't doing that. He ain't laying down show who
- 1:34:30runs Allison? Like who runs how Elison thinks about plans otto? Okay,
- 1:34:34So you think Auto is gonna just let rain Neery live? Okay, probably
- 1:34:40not. She has no choice, but I do agree. Okay, I
- 1:34:42agree with all y'all on that, But I will still say that how she's
- 1:34:45conducting this for has been problematic from the beginning, especially once whether or not
- 1:34:49she sent him to get eight or not. Once her son got eight,
- 1:34:51it was on. And after that you gotta react. You gotta I mean,
- 1:34:55you got you can't react after that, you gotta move strategically. And
- 1:34:58the first move she did have, and that was terrible. You know,
- 1:35:00she let the child child go. The thing is, and we noticed this
- 1:35:03last episode, Ray never really believed that Allison knew she was stealing your room.
- 1:35:11She thought like, hey, come on, let's let's reason. You
- 1:35:15know this is mine, so and she's still thinking, like, yo,
- 1:35:18this is something, come on, right, So when she actually sees Alison
- 1:35:23and she sees how dead ass she is, and then when she's like,
- 1:35:27oh wait, you know the truth and you still dead ass? Yeah.
- 1:35:30But see that's that's that I gotta disagree with you. That's terrible thinking there,
- 1:35:33because like Allison told her, you know, aiming nigga, I'm go,
- 1:35:38the fuck what our relationship is? You know what this nigga's like,
- 1:35:42you know what I mean? And he just ate your son. So you
- 1:35:45know, it's like her move since then have always been a wild boy like
- 1:35:47it just hasn't been you know, she has not been like sadly, you
- 1:35:53know, it's just not moving smart. You know. I think that she
- 1:35:57I think that she as she spoke in not to debate, but mm hmm,
- 1:36:02she was still thinking at some point, this is all miscommunication on our
- 1:36:05sides. This is and this isn't us, This isn't us. Right,
- 1:36:12she was Thea's tone, which is like, we're dead as going to do
- 1:36:17this. That's what that is what Visaras left them on. That was right.
- 1:36:23Again, it comes down to is it house Targarian? Are we fighting
- 1:36:28for House Targarian? Are we fighting amongst ourselves? And she was trying to
- 1:36:33reconcile in her head and ray niece was with her House Targarian, We're fighting
- 1:36:39for House Targarian. And when she had that moment with Alison, she's like
- 1:36:42that Allison does not care about How's targar. No, no, she can't.
- 1:36:45She can't care care about how Targarian. So at this point, wash
- 1:36:50your hands of the idea that we're gonna fight for House Targarian. In the
- 1:36:54end of it all, this is just war. And I've seen a lot
- 1:36:58of people online really mad about that because they feel that ray Ray should have
- 1:37:01known, especially after the end of last season when she turns to the camera
- 1:37:04and has the rage in her face and then you know, now she still
- 1:37:09wants to make peace, and like, you know, I get it.
- 1:37:11You know Alison, Okay, you know Alison whatever, but you got to
- 1:37:14know, you know, Aimon is out there. And like y'all said,
- 1:37:16even if I've been like, okay, I've been to knee, she knows
- 1:37:19Aimin's still coming for that ass. So when you ain't been in the knee,
- 1:37:23Amen's coming for that ass no matter what. So you're gonna have to
- 1:37:26you know, you got to move better. And I just that's why I
- 1:37:29say she has not been moving well. And that's why a lot of people
- 1:37:30really complained about last episode and her going to visit. They just thought it
- 1:37:33was terrible writing, et cetera. I do not say that at all,
- 1:37:36really writing. It's from a character's perspective. It was maybe not the worst
- 1:37:41prest move. Yeah, it's just not thinking there. I agree that,
- 1:37:45But I also agree that that's been shown in her character on this show.
- 1:37:47You know, at least in the show. I don't know the book,
- 1:37:49so I don't know, but in the show it's been shown that she does
- 1:37:51not make the best move every time. But also that was spurred by Rahnee
- 1:37:56Rehneze, just like you need to go talk to her, who usually makes
- 1:37:59the best move, but as in this episode did not either. So no,
- 1:38:02everybody's human, it's the target, it's the house targarian. That's it's
- 1:38:06Key's being on house targarian. So I think for for in the books,
- 1:38:12we never got as far as I can remember, I don't we never got
- 1:38:15that Ray Nearer like snuck into kings Landing to talk to Alison. This is
- 1:38:17very much the show. So I could see if maybe some of the comments
- 1:38:20were people who were like knew the online more, that's the book lore and
- 1:38:26they were like upset that the like oh no, this show did a different
- 1:38:29angle than the one I expected, or whatever, Like I could see that
- 1:38:30being part of why that happened. Yeah, but I do. I like
- 1:38:34that it happened only because it does show you that King's Landing is not impenetrable
- 1:38:42like people can't. Is the Queen herself can walk around in King's Landing and
- 1:38:47not get God in the height of like everybody looking out and trying to like
- 1:38:51take out each other. And that's something you really need to know at this
- 1:38:56point in the story because of what's going to happen later on and now,
- 1:38:59yeah, I mean you should know that because like they got impecils guarding now,
- 1:39:00like you think it's just yeah, I mean we've also seen in the
- 1:39:03original Game of Throne series, King's landing is easy to get in and out,
- 1:39:08but people be sneaking in and out that bitch all day. And I
- 1:39:11called, damon broke, you know, But these niggas is damn they're broke
- 1:39:14now too, So it's you know, it's remember they said that the Taiwan
- 1:39:17not Taiwan. What's the nigga's name? Your people's a lanisters. They were
- 1:39:20like, yeah, we ain't got no more money, dog like we we
- 1:39:24we got the last of the last. I can't forgetting that niggas a lanister
- 1:39:27because he's I know, but he ain't got the you know, he ain't
- 1:39:30got the swago Taiwan is the way he is. Where do you think his
- 1:39:35family Lenyne was before he was like nah, okay, I get it.
- 1:39:42Yeah, he was sick of that ship. Yeah, these niggas is not
- 1:39:46the niggas I know, you know, nah uh uh. Did y'all notice
- 1:39:51that there's one guy that's playing in Game of Thrones and in House of Dragon.
- 1:39:57Which guy he's at. He's on the Green's Council. He was also
- 1:40:04a Lanister in Game of Thrones. Look it up. This is one guy
- 1:40:11that plays in both series, and I believe he's actual Lenister on both sides.
- 1:40:16That's hilarious. I love that, like if it's like a callback to
- 1:40:19like they look the same throughout the generations, like they have the same faces
- 1:40:24or whatever. Yeah, and Marvel they did that. I can't remember that
- 1:40:29act there, but he plays his son. Oh, it's one of the
- 1:40:32it's one of no, it's one of Nick Fury's Howling commandos. He shows
- 1:40:38up in The President playing his son. Yeah, h of the Veil and
- 1:40:44Thailand Lanister both played by Jefferson Hall. Oh Thailand Lanister and Hugh of the
- 1:40:49Veil. But the Vel's not the Lester. The Veil is the relatives.
- 1:40:57That's hilarious because it's like, oh, yeah, this is like Anus that
- 1:41:00was in the Veil and like his family line and in the Veil or whatever.
- 1:41:02This is somebody playing in the DC and the Marvel universe right exactly sad
- 1:41:06out because he got that veil in the get that veil think on him.
- 1:41:13You got that veil taking. I think one of my clothing pieces is you
- 1:41:17know, Agon is not Jeoffrey, as much as he wants to do that
- 1:41:24this episode. You know who is Draffrey though, Like when it comes to
- 1:41:30not going out when you want them to go out, Christian Christian, Jesus
- 1:41:34Christ. So you know he gonna take a terrible l I hope. So
- 1:41:41that way, it was in that way, but it was fortunate. He's
- 1:41:45also draft Frey and he's not He's a cockroach. He's not gonna go out.
- 1:41:47He's a it's God takes. Grandfather said that. The Darkling guy said
- 1:41:51that. He said, your fake gonna be worse, my nigga, And
- 1:41:55I cannot wait, oh Darkling talk. I personally don't think that Colas is
- 1:42:00bad. He's annoying. He's annoying, and he's a cockroach. And what
- 1:42:06Portia said, because he's the lowest of the low, like he has no
- 1:42:10honor. He don't move with honor or respect for himself. Even he's for
- 1:42:14his gas, like the fucking gas, like the one of the twins to
- 1:42:17go down there and do the bullshit he did, like come on Bro Nigga
- 1:42:23tried to get Grain's world killed. Man. He trash trash, Yeah,
- 1:42:26he tried to get right, sir, Gwayne's world try to get him killed.
- 1:42:28He tried everyone around him. Anytime someone reads him, he's like,
- 1:42:31Okay, I'm gonna put you. I'm gonna try to do something to you
- 1:42:34to get you hemmed up, like every time, like you have no honor,
- 1:42:36bro, you move just isn't that the Game of Thrones? It is?
- 1:42:41But he's a sucker playing still that's my problem. Like, like he's
- 1:42:45playing, you know, he knows the rules, but he's terrible at it,
- 1:42:48you know what I mean. That's my problem with it. Yeah,
- 1:42:51I need you to know the rules and know how to play, and he
- 1:42:54don't know how to play. He knows the rules, but he don't know
- 1:42:56how to play. Terrible. Period, are good, I'll be good now.
- 1:43:00This was episode fourth of Game of Throw excuse me of House of Dragon
- 1:43:04season two. Tayhold, thank you so much, Tihold Targarian. We appreciate
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