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FSU Hoops Upsets Wake · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to North Florida sports network.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: We're going to talk some hoops.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Hoops there it is, man Just like that.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Hoops, there it is.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Hoop, all seasons over.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Wolverines are your champs, but we're talking FSU hoops as they beat the Wake Forest team and Deacons snap the nine game winning streak that the Deacons brought into the Tuck.
• 0:35
  Speaker 3: The Tuck zone.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it wasn't really like like it used to be, but that's some energy, no wait wait, wait, wait.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: It was like it used to be.
• 0:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Way, way back in.
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: Dunk the ball.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: Anthony days.
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
• 0:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you hear everything Coach Hamm is yelling out there.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Lipscomb.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: That was the environment where you could hear everything.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Couple of games ago you could, and just now, like you were like wow, I thought this team was going to be better, but they're seeing the additions now.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, they're better.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a, we got big time.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: No, in studio, get up, we got Jimmy Reno here with us.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: I'm always here.
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: I was at the game last night.
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Reno was there too.
• 1:20
  Speaker 3: Yes, I was man.
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: It was a good time.
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the fans, all your fans, man, you got plenty of leg room.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah it was.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: It was a quality win because Wake Forest is a quality team.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: They had um.
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: Top 50 in the Kimpaw rankings, which is something I guess, yeah.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's.
• 1:40
  Speaker 1: They've come a long way since just a couple of games ago where they lost to Lipscomb, you know, and where they weren't bought in all the way defensively.
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: But you can see, now that they have the rotation, they've got the guys that they needed to run that classic Hamilton style where everybody just play as hard as you possibly can while you're in there, and Bob-O-Miller's also stepped up.
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: but he's getting better.
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go over the numbers from last night.
• 2:11
  Speaker 3: All 11 guys that that saw action last night scored.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: That was the best stat.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that was Coach Hamilton's favorite.
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: I think that's back to back games now, or everybody who's played for Florida State has back to playing coach Ham style basketball.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: It sounds like that's right.
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: Handball Yep.
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: They were uh, they shot forward because they shot 47% of FSU, shot 51%.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: Wake Forest lives and dies by the three, nine to 25 for them, to seven to 13 for the Knowles.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: There's your difference right there.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: And then 80% at the line for the Knowles too.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: They were to hit free throws at the end of the game.
• 2:46
  Speaker 3: They were early in particular big, big free throws from him.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, cause he had been struggling offensively and you know, that's the kind of guy that can do everything Right.
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: Philip Astache didn't didn't hit a field goal from the floor, but managed to get six points.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: And he was in at the end and he hadn't been in at the end of a few prior at the end, so you think he wasn't in because of his free throw shooting or his offensive game.
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: I think something like cause.
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: You could see that the other coach when they that was the guy they were trying to foul at the end.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: Right, they were going after.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they used to pull shack out.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: Right, right, and this is your point guard.
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: But man, I tell you what he fills out the statue.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: He does everything else, yeah, he gives you on the defensive end especially.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: He gives you a lot and you saw Darren green just get after it defensively Right.
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: Five steals Five steals.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: You needed all of them Love that You're out rebounded by a way for skin you know to be expected because of the size, but you know that read dudes is real big.
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: Do effed and read is massive.
• 3:48
  Speaker 3: You see why Ham wanted them Right.
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: But I thought Ganey and and uh Baba, they did a really nice job.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: Baba man, he's really grown up.
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: The last couple of games it really you could see the maturation If he plays like that, the rest of the season just keeps that level of play.
• 4:04
  Speaker 3: Every game like this team is going to be in that top part of the ACC.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a little embarrassed to say I have not seen a game yet this year.
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, if Baba Miller is the guy yeah.
• 4:16
  Speaker 2: We thought he was going to be bringing him in.
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, we could make a deep run.
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 4:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this team's got.
• 4:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know you got some tough teams ahead on the schedule.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: I think you can definitely uh who's looking tough this year in the conference?
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: Well, you got.
• 4:32
  Speaker 3: Miami, miami and Duke.
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: Really good.
• 4:34
  Speaker 3: Duke is going to be Duke, unc, you and C.
• 4:37
  Speaker 3: Wake Forest was undefeated in conference Um, though, but you know those are the team.
• 4:42
  Speaker 3: Virginia seems to be down.
• 4:43
  Speaker 3: Clemson is another team that's going to be really tough.
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: You got them coming up here in a couple of games.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: But, like you said last night, having everybody that played contribute, and it's your best player this season, though, is Jameer Watkins.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: Right, right he's.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: That's the transfer.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: Transfer from VCU.
• 5:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay 19 points, eight assists.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: Last night again, darren Green Junior led the team, led the team Well.
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: I know he had 17 points, but he's.
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: And when he hits his threes right, Florida stays.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: Got a chance to beat anybody, right?
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: If he's off, then it's it.
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: You know, it kind of seems like the offense Takes a while to get going.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: They got to find something else.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Well, everybody contributed.
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I had.
• 5:30
  Speaker 1: Darren Green his shots, his, his threes, big, big, just his game overall didn't, doesn't show up in the statute either, but Ganey and you probably recognize that name from last year, but we haven't, you haven't been able to play yet and he, finally, is now in the lineup.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: Is he the defensive presence?
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: We?
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be yeah.
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think he's up to the athletic Athletically, what they were hoping to get because of the injury, but he's fully healthy, I mean is fully, as he's, healthy, as he's gonna probably right, he may get a little bit more game right, game shape Healthy Hamilton gets his feet on a little bit he can still get in better shape.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: But, man, it's good to have him because it really frees up the rotation, takes a little bit of pressure off corn yeah, big corn man, because then now he can really he's in.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: He wasn't healthy either, so now you're getting him back right for the year.
• 6:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do adjust to losing cam Fletcher man.
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: There's that four game stretch there where you lost to Georgia, you lost to UNC, and then USF and SMU and that had those games too.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah and control.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: That's what's really gonna Probably come back to bite the team, even if they do start having well, they're gonna have to go on a run here in the ACC and they're gonna have to finish in the top four of the conference.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: I think around there, you know, if they were having a shot at the tournament, but they've off to a good start.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: There's three and one and that was a quality win they get.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: They go on the road against Notre Dame Saturday.
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be one of those games you need to take care of business.
• 7:05
  Speaker 3: That's very winnable road game, notre Dame is what's their record this year.
• 7:09
  Speaker 3: Florida State, no, notre Dame, they're really down though right for them.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: They're not very good yeah this is.
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: It's a winnable game.
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're going through the transition.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: Shrewsbury, I think the guy they hired from Penn State, their new coach this year.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: I used to know their coach, mike Bray, used to come in the deli.
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a cool guy, isn't?
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: He cool guy.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 7:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they put it on Florida State earlier in the season, man, it's right.
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: But this it was a different team, right?
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: You know you had guys out, primo wasn't playing.
• 7:38
  Speaker 3: I don't believe.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: Primo, now it's huge.
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: This is another ball handler.
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: I mean this guy can get a shot up Kind of whenever you can see.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: There's maybe times where he maybe can be too ball happy, but he's been able to.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: He was Looking to pass a lot last night.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: You can see that.
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: It allows you to be able to break the press right but he didn't have himself a good game.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: But you can.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: That's another guy that didn't show up in the stat sheet but has allowed the Knowles to play their rotation Last night.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Didn't show up but it showed up in what everybody else got involved to, so they're allowed the guys that they can do that.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: You know, line hockey, line kind of.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know everyone was up in arms when Cleveland went to Miami and Mills.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: You know I tried to tell everyone they were not a good fit for our system.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: Like they were ball heavy, they didn't play the team defense, we weren't full court pressing.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: And now it sounds like we're back to playing the style of basketball that coach Ham loves to play, and that's a good thing.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: This is probably the best he's probably felt since COVID days maybe.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: I mean just about the way his team is playing and I mean and just having the numbers.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: You know, there I don't think they had the right rotation you know and his adjustment of way that we were playing like eight guys last year.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: That's just not him.
• 8:58
  Speaker 3: No, it's completely different Now you saw 11 guys, 18 strong.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've already matched your win total.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got nine wins.
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: Cleveland's.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: Cleveland's found a really nice spot for himself in Miami.
• 9:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's he's.
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: You know he's thriving in that system of not really having to be the guy Right.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: And just kind of just the bad timing, for not a lot of people play like coach Ham anymore.
• 9:21
  Speaker 2: No, no, just you don't see it a lot.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: I think it was a bad just those two players in particularly just didn't.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: Bad fit.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: Bad fit together with the system on or off the court.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: And it, yeah, that'll ruin your team.
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: Man, I don't really like Watkins, you know.
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: You know instead who's been the best player on the team so far.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: Again, eight assists last night.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: You know this.
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: I mean he is athleticism to.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: He's been really impressed.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: He's lengthy to right.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's been such a Exactly.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: Trent Forrest he's a.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Terence Mann like tall athletic.
• 9:55
  Speaker 3: He's a both ends of the court player.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: He's been there all year.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Defense everything.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: He's been the guy all year and he single handedly won that preseason tournament almost, but now you know you still have him and if you get this play, like Jimmy was talking about, with Bob O'Miller- yeah, you're starting to get options, man, right, you get.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: I love them having been going to Bob O'Miller in the half court sets.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: I think that he did more of that.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: He was the number one player coming out of Europe in his class Right and he's a big deal.
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: He's an unselfish type of guy, kind of like Isaac was.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: So I think you have to like, try to like really force it to him.
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: You know, you need to really get him the ball Shoot Right, right, and he can get his three point shot off on anybody to make, and he can, he's got a nice throw.
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: It's what he's been doing in the paint around the glass the last couple games.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: And I think he gets his feet underneath him.
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: He gets more accustomed to playing with college referees and what they're going to allow him to do, You're going to see his game start to just elevate man.
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: Like I said, if he plays at the same level he's been playing at for the rest of the season, then top four or five in the conference isn't out of the question.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: You have to stay healthy, yeah, and then it allows guys.
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: You know, because of bull bowing your clout, your freshman now.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: Also really really good looking freshman really good looking freshman.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: He can come in and play a role and I think that will continue to get more minutes as the season goes on.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: And I will say, if you get hot, like say February, mid-february, you look really good and you look good in the ACC tournament.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Like they like that, they want teams that are playing well at the end of the season.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: So if we can go on a little streak there in February, late March, like we could get in.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah Well, let's take one game at a time.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 9-6, 3-1 in the ACC.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Though.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: You got some.
• 11:48
  Speaker 3: You got some some tough, tough spots in the schedule coming up Out of conference 3-1 in the ACC is normally really good.
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the conference just has not been the ACC for the past couple of years and you've offset it with some really bad out of conference losses.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Right, that really is.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: That was big lose games to Georgia that you had a home lead into lose games to lips.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: Come where you let him take the lead on you, like that, smu and USF for the games that that are going to be the biggest, because you lost by double digits and that that.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: USF games going to be a killer.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Right, well, you're that's.
• 12:26
  Speaker 1: You almost got to watch that away, though, because you're gonna have to do really really well.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: This is a different team mentally, but it's still on your resume this team is a lot more fun to watch, though this is a game out there next home game 100%.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: It's a lot more fun to watch when they're all there.
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: They can they play hard.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: It's night and day, the energy that the team that the players are putting into the game, I guess yeah, you can see improvements, steady improvements, so that the guy like Chandler Jackson, for instance you know a guy that was here last year that you know he has now it looks like he's coming into where he has a roll now off the bench.
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: We can come in and try to get comfortable.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the two shots that he hit were at crucial points in the second half, and that's when you have multiple guys that you can rely on.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now one of those guys has an awesome is shooting the ball.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Well, here you go, keep feeding them and when you get more of those guys, the chances they find out who you get to play them together and they start working.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: I really liked the effort, I really liked the game in last night from because, I'll tell you right now, I was really impressed by way forest.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: And I think that's the tournament team.
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: Hildreth, from over, from, over, across the pond.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, yeah.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: Mr Hildreth, yeah, he had himself a game, yeah you got you got, you got like crossed up or I don't know if he tripped on one of the two of the low lights of the week probably in college basketball yeah.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: But he also put in 25 points.
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Anyway, he could, he was, he was 25 for him.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Miller had 21 little point guards.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Read for them had nine boards.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: So there that was, you know he's every bit of seven foot one.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: He's a huge, huge young fella.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, nine and six, Three and one in the ACC, let's.
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: What else is you know, with the football season over?
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: You know it's a lot of.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: I know big time.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Know you know that that was probably one of the worst December's, from from the good the season, what it was almost after.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Differentiate the two.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: But I'll never watch college football again, except for Florida State, that's it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: For football only.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch one ball game, except for ours, that's it.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Right, well, I canceled my ESPN.
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: You are.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: You watched our game.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: How much of it.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: It was all in the whole time.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: I was really busy explaining that.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's scrimmage.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I was really busy explaining the landscape of the new college football right in laws.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's the problem.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: And then like that was what, that it was unjustified.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: You knew, I mean, I knew that was coming.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I said we're probably be down 50 to nothing.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't I literally mean it, but I wouldn't have been surprised.
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to win, I know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Well, that's because you're.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: You got the heart of a champion.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Norvel was going to come up with some crazy game plan.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't get me lost to a Philly and I was like well it was a difference of.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: The roster was formulated to make a run.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: This was going to play too With those guys a couple guys in a play because they were hurt.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like he said, if they lost the game to Louisville, they would opted in.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to say, though, what about the movies?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I got you here big time.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: No, what's so good out in the theater, man Iron Claw oh.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: The wrestling movie, true story oh yeah, about the Von Erick family, one of the dynasties and pro wrestling.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely incredible story.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: That credible film.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Zach Efron kills it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Dude is shredded.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: But the bear absolutely destroys it as.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Texas tornado.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to give away anything.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Just go see it.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: It's excellent, excellent Watch.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Ok, watch of the week, for sure.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Watch of the week.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: All right, I thought you were going to go with migration.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, I already saw that twice.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I already made my top five animated films right in the fourth, you see the new.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Aquaman oh, not yet.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want you to.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on, it's not good.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Well it's.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: We love Aquaman in my house.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: I would say wait till it comes out on some streaming.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: Even do DVD anymore.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're there, I see kids don't even know what those things are.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: What my DVD quality?
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Just ask me.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: He found a DVD.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: He goes what's this?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I told him I was from the 20th century.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Available on streaming.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I will say this for Aquaman Great CGI, yeah, great special effects.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: That's Aquaman, if you kind of know what you're getting in she got a pregame for it, right?
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why McGuffins is there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Well, the Knowles have been playing a lot better.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: They're going to be in Notre Dame Saturday.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: We'll watch it, we'll react to it and we'll talk to you next time, right here on the North Florida Sports Network.