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  Speaker 1: It's the report.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight. Donald Trump calls around the leaders scum after all,
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  Speaker 2: and sends in the bombers, what's his real game? I'll
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  Speaker 2: talk to a top general who advised him. Paulin Hanson
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  Speaker 2: meanwhile goes on the podcast of British thug Tommy Robinson,
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  Speaker 2: the man who costs Karl Stefanovic his job. I'll talk
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  Speaker 2: to Barnaby Joyce about that, and Anthony Albanize his strange
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  Speaker 2: behavior today sucking up to India's Prime Minister in Melbourne,
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  Speaker 2: and plenty more. But first, the ABC finally got put
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  Speaker 2: on the rack today in the Royal Commission for its
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  Speaker 2: role in spreading this tsunami of jee hatred, in this
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  Speaker 2: case by being so incredibly hostile to Israel. But before
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  Speaker 2: I show you that, entree a funny but sinister example
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  Speaker 2: of the insane hatred of Israel on the streets at
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  Speaker 2: the moment, here's how many of rebel news that approachest
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  Speaker 2: in Melbourne interviewing a transgender rights activist in a Palestinian Kefia.
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  Speaker 3: Gazans have solidarity with trans people. Yeah, usually have you
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  Speaker 3: ever seen what they do to trans people in Gaza?
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  Speaker 4: I think that that's what the IDF does to trans people.
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  Speaker 3: How many gay pride parades have there been in Gaza?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, how many people have been killed in Gaza.
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  Speaker 4: They can't do pride parades at the moment. They can't
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  Speaker 4: even accept gay people because they're going through so much
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  Speaker 4: other stuff.
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  Speaker 5: How are you meant to so?
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  Speaker 1: You think?
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  Speaker 4: You think?
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  Speaker 6: So?
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  Speaker 3: You think the unacceptance of gay and trans people in
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  Speaker 3: Gaza is because of the Israelis.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's. Yeah, I think it's because of fear,
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  Speaker 4: and I think it's because of that.
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  Speaker 3: I think as I do with their radical religion, I
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  Speaker 3: think no.
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  Speaker 2: I would bet a penny to a pound that's an
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  Speaker 2: ABC audience member. I guess in fact, this kind of
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  Speaker 2: irrational hatred of Israel is so bad that Israel's ambassador
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  Speaker 2: to Israel to Australia has written in The Australian Today
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  Speaker 2: that the obsessive, multi range, wild unfounded accusations thrown time
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  Speaker 2: and time again at Israel are not legitimate criticism. To him,
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  Speaker 2: they are a manifestation of anti Semitism. He says, throughout
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  Speaker 2: my twenty six year career as an Israeli diplomat, I
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  Speaker 2: have never seen such levels of hatred of Israel and
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  Speaker 2: of Jews, as I experience and witness here in Australia
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  Speaker 2: and now after the Bondai massaca, many Jews are turning
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  Speaker 2: on the ABC for its role. They are horrified by
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  Speaker 2: its top to bottom bias against Israel that's been feeding
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  Speaker 2: this due hatred. Here's Victoria Teplitsky, she's a daughter of
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  Speaker 2: one of the victims of Bondai calling out the see
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  Speaker 2: in fact getting right in the face of ABC presenters.
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  Speaker 7: And ABC I've got to say, will you cut out
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  Speaker 7: the biased reporting.
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  Speaker 5: Mainstream media? We feel with yeah, will you? Will you
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  Speaker 5: cut it out?
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  Speaker 2: So today the Royal Commission into into Anti Semitism we
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  Speaker 2: put the ABC in the dock. But I've got to
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  Speaker 2: say treated it far too gently there in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: You just wait until I give my examples. Well that said,
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  Speaker 2: you know it did start by calling as a witness
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  Speaker 2: Jillian Siegal, the Government's News Special Envoy on Anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 8: I'm hearing from important stakeholders of mind, how concerned they are,
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  Speaker 8: how grieved they are, how they feel that they're trusted
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  Speaker 8: broadcaster is not being fair and accurate. I would like
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  Speaker 8: the ABC to be as good as it possibly could be.
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  Speaker 2: More for them forever, having trusted the ABC in the
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  Speaker 2: first place. But the ABC denies everything. Our taxpayer funded
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  Speaker 2: national broadcaster put out a statement claiming it's reporting has
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  Speaker 2: been evidence based, fair, impartial and consistent with its charter
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  Speaker 2: obligations and is sent to the Royal Commission today. The
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  Speaker 2: Executive is supposed to check that it isn't bassed and
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  Speaker 2: who said the same thing.
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  Speaker 9: What I'm focused on is to make sure that we're
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  Speaker 9: meeting our standards and that our content meets those standards
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  Speaker 9: around impartiality, accuracy, fairness and the like.
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  Speaker 2: Now again, to be fair, the Royal Commission did raise
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  Speaker 2: with Fang, Gavin Fange. There's some examples, but just the
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  Speaker 2: couple of ABC biased, like the day that it was
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  Speaker 2: so stupidly biased as to report this claim by you,
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  Speaker 2: an official, as a fact when it was obviously a
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  Speaker 2: particularly mad example of the not the nation's own hatred
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  Speaker 2: of Israel, a claim that Israel was about to save
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  Speaker 2: thousands of guards of children to death. There are fourteen
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  Speaker 2: thousand babies that will die in the next forty eight
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  Speaker 2: hours unless we can reach them. Fourteen thousand in a
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  Speaker 2: day two. I mean, seriously, the ABC reported that at
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  Speaker 2: six am our time, even though the UN itself had
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  Speaker 2: already admitted three hours early it wasn't right, and it
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  Speaker 2: kept reporting it all the way up to four pm,
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  Speaker 2: when it finally admitted on one little heard ABC radio
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  Speaker 2: show that this was an exaggeration. Well that night and
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  Speaker 2: Sky has said far more than that, And the ABC
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  Speaker 2: didn't do a proper wider correction for another week, a
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  Speaker 2: whole week after I'd exposed the whole light right here.
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  Speaker 9: We wanted to make sure that the error had not
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  Speaker 9: been replicated in other plays. The nature of the modern
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  Speaker 9: media is that television video items might appear on how
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  Speaker 9: social media feeds on other places, So it took some
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  Speaker 9: time to make sure that we were able to pull
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  Speaker 9: down all of those elements and to do a correction
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  Speaker 9: once that had happened.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the other example of bars that the Commission raised
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  Speaker 2: with the ABC suit you heard but didn't see. There
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  Speaker 2: was an ABC report that Israel had again bombed Gaza Terrible,
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  Speaker 2: without actually mentioning that this bombing was in response to
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  Speaker 2: hamasteris in Gaza firing rockets at civilians at Tel Aviv.
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  Speaker 2: But let me now tell you of some of the many, many,
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  Speaker 2: many examples of ABC bars against Israel that have exposed
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  Speaker 2: on the show. I don't know for how long once
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  Speaker 2: that the Royal Commission did not mention. For instance, since
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  Speaker 2: here is ABC correspondent John Lyons, typically hostile to Israel
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  Speaker 2: on the very day the US attacked Iran, suggesting that
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  Speaker 2: old trope of Jews, or in this case, Israeli's controlling
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  Speaker 2: politicians around the world like pubbits, even almost in this case,
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  Speaker 2: dictating the words that US President Donald Trump used to
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  Speaker 2: declare war.
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  Speaker 10: That's Israel's agenda.
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  Speaker 9: That's Israel's talking points, not the United States.
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  Speaker 2: That speech could have been written and delivered by Benjamin
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  Speaker 2: Etta and Yahoo.
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  Speaker 10: This is being driven by Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's cunning israelis Here's the ABC's Sarah Ferguson insisting
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  Speaker 2: that the killing of an Australian aid worker was not
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  Speaker 2: the tragic mistake, that all the evidence in Israeli guess
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  Speaker 2: suggest that.
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  Speaker 1: We've taken responsibility for the mistake.
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  Speaker 7: Peter Lerna, I'm not accepting your view that it's a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Here is John Lyons again falsely suggesting that Israel was
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  Speaker 2: attacking Lebanon and implying that Israel had started it.
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  Speaker 9: Another one of Israel's wars in the Middle East, of course,
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  Speaker 9: is with Lebanon, where I am.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, Israel is not at war with Lebanon, but
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  Speaker 2: with Iranian funded Hesbela terrorists who captured Lebanese territory and
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  Speaker 2: from there are firing rockets when missiles at civilians in Israel,
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  Speaker 2: and Israel was only responding to exactly that. Now I
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  Speaker 2: could go on all night with more examples. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: could mention all the Israel haters of the ABC is hard,
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  Speaker 2: including one of the latest is Grace Tame who called
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  Speaker 2: for a war against Israel right here just after the
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  Speaker 2: Bondo massacre.
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  Speaker 8: From Galigal to Gaza Globalize the Incha.
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  Speaker 6: Fial won my time, from Gaigol to.
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  Speaker 5: Gaza global.
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  Speaker 2: Now I could also mention how the ABC fell for
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  Speaker 2: a completely unlikely story of Israel starving this child in
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  Speaker 2: Gaza when some research would have shown that that child's
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  Speaker 2: sibling was well fed. And the reason is that the
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  Speaker 2: skeletal child you see was actually suffering a congenital condition.
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  Speaker 2: Now this ABC fish ross from the head. ABC chairman
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  Speaker 2: Kim Williams recently vilified Israeli pro mister Benjaminettnehu, saying it was,
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  Speaker 2: frankly an adbarent creature in the history of Israel, A creature, right,
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  Speaker 2: a creature. The ABC's Onmberdsman did say, though later this
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  Speaker 2: after that Gavin Fang had given his evidence, she did say,
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  Speaker 2: all right, when you strip out a couple of outlier programs,
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  Speaker 2: even a lot of ABC viewers think that the ABC
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  Speaker 2: coverage during this war has been to anti Israel.
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  Speaker 6: Throughout that period, fifty two percent of complainants have said
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  Speaker 6: that the ABC is pro Palestine in its coverage of
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  Speaker 6: the Middle East conflicts, and forty five percent have said
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  Speaker 6: that it is pro Israel in the coverage of the
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  Speaker 6: Middle East.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you know, judge things by take measure, if
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  Speaker 2: you think, well, you know those figures, it's pretty close
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  Speaker 2: to fifty to fifty. Yeah, half think it's to pro Israel.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's too pro Palestinian. Well, that means the
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  Speaker 2: ABC is pretty balanced. Remember, the ABC audience is itself
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  Speaker 2: left leaning. The ABC is no conservative host of any
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  Speaker 2: current affairs show. Yet even an ABC audience still thinks,
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  Speaker 2: after all that coaching this BIS is too much. And second,
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  Speaker 2: for every Jew in Australia, there are about seven Muslims
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  Speaker 2: Jews are outnumbered in any campaign to complain of ABC bias,
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  Speaker 2: So don't listen to the figures. And I wonder, you know,
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  Speaker 2: is this Royal Commission now going to hold the ABC
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  Speaker 2: to account at last for its vile history of bias
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  Speaker 2: against Israel and Zionists. Well, I don't know. But when
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  Speaker 2: it refuses to hit the ABC's bias watchdog man with
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  Speaker 2: example after example of the ABC's culture of contempt for Israel,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not optimistic. The ABC, after all, is the broadcaster
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  Speaker 2: of and four and buy our bureaucratic class, and is
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  Speaker 2: now being judged by that class. But you you can
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  Speaker 2: judge this for yourself. Now, Pauline Hansen has just made
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  Speaker 2: a big moral and political mistake. She's in London and
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  Speaker 2: has recorded a podcast with a far right thug and
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  Speaker 2: convicted criminal, Tommy Robinson, the man that Carl Stephanovik interviewed
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  Speaker 2: and called a hero, which got him sacked by a
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  Speaker 2: Channel nine. Now we'll learn later what Hanson said in
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  Speaker 2: the podcast. Maybe she attacked Robinson, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: from the promo of it it sounds like a love
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  Speaker 2: in between two people who are against mass immigration in Islam.
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  Speaker 2: Because Robinson has promoted with a post calling Hanson one
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  Speaker 2: of the bravest ladies spelt like that and completely wrong
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  Speaker 2: on the planet. Fearless, relentless, consistent farting for the Australian
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  Speaker 2: people and hopefully the next leader of our nation or
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  Speaker 2: her nation. Now let me explain why it's a mistake. First, morally,
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  Speaker 2: of course, because as I've told you before, Robinson is
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  Speaker 2: a nasty piece of work. Has been convicted of assault
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  Speaker 2: once for bashing and off duty pla he's been trying
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  Speaker 2: to protect his Robinson's girlfriend from him. This, has been
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  Speaker 2: convicted of assault, mortgage fraud, using a false passport, and
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  Speaker 2: stalking and harassing a female journalist outside her own home.
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  Speaker 2: How frightening would that be? And no, he hasn't exposed
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  Speaker 2: in a Muslim rape gag like his fans claim others did.
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  Speaker 2: That he just whipped up a dangerous mob. And that
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  Speaker 2: documentary that he made about exposing a Muslim bully, that's
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  Speaker 2: another line. It's seen a video go viral about a
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  Speaker 2: fifteen year old Syrian boy fifteen years old getting picked
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  Speaker 2: on by again at school, a boy who already had
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  Speaker 2: his rist spoken by what seemed like earlier bullying attacks
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  Speaker 2: of which there had been many, And Robinson then made
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  Speaker 2: up a totally untrue story that the real bully was
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  Speaker 2: this fifteen year old. He claimed this boy had beaten
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  Speaker 2: a white girl black and blue and threatened to stab someone.
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  Speaker 2: But the judge went through all the claims decided they
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  Speaker 2: were or completely misremembered or whatever, exposed it in a
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  Speaker 2: judgment that you can read online. But Robinson repeated all
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  Speaker 2: this again and for that was jailed for contempt of court.
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  Speaker 2: For Hanson now to consort with this lying, violent child,
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  Speaker 2: bullying street fighter and making even more influential, it's not
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  Speaker 2: just a terrible moral mistake, it's also a political one.
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  Speaker 2: Because Hanson is so high in the pole, she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: need to do these cheap stunts. In fact that I
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  Speaker 2: think they're her enemy right now. What she does need
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  Speaker 2: is to be normal. Normal now will be mad enough.
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  Speaker 2: Now one nation has the votes at the moment poles
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  Speaker 2: say it, But what it doesn't have is enough candidates
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  Speaker 2: with the experience and talent. She needs to actually look
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  Speaker 2: like a potential government and win government. Now, these are
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  Speaker 2: candidates that she wants who would have to then risk
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  Speaker 2: their reputation by joining one nation. Right, But now they
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  Speaker 2: see handsome fawning over a this violent, lying thug and
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  Speaker 2: treating him with some kind of authority. Joining me Seth Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: Regular One Nation MP Bannaby Joyce, the former Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Pauline Hanson recording a podcast with this thug Tommy Robinson.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't that embarrass you in One Nation?
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  Speaker 11: Well, I have to see the podcast, obviously, Andrew. I
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  Speaker 11: haven't seen yet, and I'll have an opinion after I've
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  Speaker 11: watched it. What we've seen, unfortunately in England is there
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  Speaker 11: is a polarization of the political debate without the shadow
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  Speaker 11: of doubt, and it's something we don't want here, that polarization.
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  Speaker 1: The last council elections.
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  Speaker 11: I think there was about five hundred and seventy or
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  Speaker 11: so people who clearly identified as working towards an Islamic
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  Speaker 11: form of England, so about one every ten and that
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  Speaker 11: has repercussions. There's always going to be a pushback of
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  Speaker 11: another sort. I suppose mister Robinson represents that pushback, but
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  Speaker 11: I haven't seen the castle have more of an opinion
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  Speaker 11: on after I've seen that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I agree with you, we do not want such
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  Speaker 2: polarization here and that would include not holding out Tommy
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  Speaker 2: Robinson as someone you should be talking to. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a disgrace. The Prime Minister today put on a
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  Speaker 2: big welcome for India's Prime minister and announced has signed
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  Speaker 2: a great deal that to me actually underlines this government's manness.
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  Speaker 2: This is this.
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  Speaker 12: Today we can confirm the signing of the Administry of
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  Speaker 12: arrangement to enable uranium exports to India for peaceful purposes
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  Speaker 12: under the twenty fifteen Australia India Nuclear Cooperation Agreement. The
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  Speaker 12: arrangement facilitates Australian uranium exports to India to help increase
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  Speaker 12: the share of non fossil fuel power capacity.
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  Speaker 2: Banaby Narendra Modi, the Prime Minister of India, said, yes,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to help us to get zero missions
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  Speaker 2: for India. Can you explain to me how this government
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  Speaker 2: here bans us from using that very same uranium for
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  Speaker 2: ourselves when it's very happy to sell it to India
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  Speaker 2: as a weapon to fight global warming.
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  Speaker 11: Make that make sense, Oh, it can's very easy. They're morons,
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  Speaker 11: that's how. That's why, total morons. I just don't understand
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  Speaker 11: this sort of imbecilic approach to nuclear technology, which is
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  Speaker 11: abundantly used around every other section of the glow where
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  Speaker 11: we werew Great scientists such as doctor mark Hoe is
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  Speaker 11: going to the United States to develop microreactors. Something could
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  Speaker 11: be hundreds of billions of dollar industry for Australia. But
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  Speaker 11: it's insane. We do have a nuclear reactor. It's called
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  Speaker 11: Lucas Heights. It's been there since the nineteen fifties. It's
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  Speaker 11: bang smack in the middle of Sydney and no one
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  Speaker 11: gives a toss about it. But somehow we've got caught
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  Speaker 11: in this zeitgeist, this tribal zeitgeist of the left, where
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  Speaker 11: you can't say nuclear energy, believing that we're somehow potonium plants.
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  Speaker 11: Potonium is highly and rich uranium up to ninety percent
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  Speaker 11: for a nuclear weapon. Just so your listeners, No, a
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  Speaker 11: nuclear power plant isn't rich about three to five percent.
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  Speaker 2: Completely different animal.
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  Speaker 11: But you know everyone else is just looking at us
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  Speaker 11: and laughing at us because we just seem to we
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  Speaker 11: want to be in basilic. We've de industrialized Australia with
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  Speaker 11: into minute power. We decide we don't want nuclear, but
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  Speaker 11: we do want windmills and solar panels. And now we're
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  Speaker 11: going to shut down our national highway so we can
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  Speaker 11: get foreign owned wind wind turbines up Australian rows to
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  Speaker 11: go to foreign owned in the minute power precincts to
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  Speaker 11: bubohvite incredibly expensive power underwritten by the taxpayer through secret
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  Speaker 11: capacity investment scans. We can do all that, but we
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  Speaker 11: can't have nuclear power.
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  Speaker 2: But Banaby, you forgot the the I really mastered the system.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime we talk about that, and it's all for nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It will not change the climate. We're too small to
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  Speaker 2: make a difference. I mean, it's just insane, even by
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  Speaker 2: its own standards. Bannaby Joyce, thank you so much for
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  Speaker 2: your time. It really is insane. After the break, well,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump takes real exception to Iran's leaders, calls them scum.
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  Speaker 2: What's really going on in Iran? With this American attack? Now?
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  Speaker 2: US President Donald Trump explained overnight why he was going
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  Speaker 2: back to war with Iran. Well, up to a point,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's over. I don't want to deal with him.
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  Speaker 1: And with there's scum.
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  Speaker 2: You know what scum is. There's gum, there's sick people.
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  Speaker 13: They're led by sick people, and they're vicious, violent people.
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  Speaker 13: And if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I actually thought and said that was pretty obvious
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  Speaker 2: right from the start. But it did seem that Trump
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  Speaker 2: he has finally realized that Iruan civilian leaders really were
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  Speaker 2: lying to him, to his negotiators, stringing them along with
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  Speaker 2: air talk of peace, and only now has he got
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  Speaker 2: to know them, he says, know them and their tricks.
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  Speaker 10: Last month, you said Iranian leaders were very rational people
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  Speaker 10: and nice people to deal with, strong people, smart people.
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  Speaker 1: Today you said they were scum, sick.
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  Speaker 9: People and being led by sick people.
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  Speaker 2: What changed? And do you think that?
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  Speaker 1: I guy don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I should watch the Bolt report. It would have been
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  Speaker 2: wiser sooner. It seems that the last straw was Iran
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  Speaker 2: attacking three oil tankers in the straight up mus on
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, breaking his promise to let ships pass. But
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  Speaker 2: for now the US strikes are relatively limited. The US
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  Speaker 2: Sentcom Command says it hit about eighty Iranian military targets
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  Speaker 2: on Tuesday, including more than six of the Islamic Revolutionary
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  Speaker 2: Guard Court small boats used to attack shipping, although yesterday
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  Speaker 2: it did step this up to about ninety military targets,
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  Speaker 2: including air defense systems, coastal surveillance miss island, drones, storage sites.
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  Speaker 2: So what's really going on? What's the real plan here?
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  Speaker 2: I spoke earlier to General Jack Keane, who is a
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  Speaker 2: former Vice Chief of Staff of the United States Army
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  Speaker 2: who's now chairman of the Institute for the Study of War,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and he was consulted on the initial US war plans
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: and briefed the President. General Jack Keane, it's a pleasure
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: to see you again. Is this really a full out war?
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Once more? It seems more limited these strikes than before.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So what are the real objectives here?
• 21:44
  Speaker 14: Yeah, so you're absolutely right, it's not a full out war.
• 21:47
  Speaker 14: We're not returning to major combat operations. Obviously Israel is
• 21:52
  Speaker 14: not participating in it, and the targets are largely limited
• 21:57
  Speaker 14: to the coastal areas in the nity of the Straits
• 22:01
  Speaker 14: of a Mouse, and the focus here and the objective
• 22:06
  Speaker 14: is to force Oran to stop interfering with the straits
• 22:10
  Speaker 14: of a Mooves. That is clearly the issue. It leans
• 22:16
  Speaker 14: itself to potential escalation into considerably more attacks, and more
• 22:23
  Speaker 14: attacks of greater significance than what has been administered here.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: It seems a little bit at odds the limited nature
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of it with the more wide ranging critique. If I
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: could call it that that Donald Trump leveled at the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Iranian leadership. Why do you think he changed from thinking
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that Heruan civilian leaders, who are the ones that been
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: talking peace negotiating with the Americans, were reasonable men to
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: calling them scum and lies. He said one thing privately
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and publicly talked tough. Is that because they were just
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: stringing him along? Or is it because the real power
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: always was says You've long said with Iran's hardline Islamic
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Revolutionary God corp and it's and it's lead at Brigadier
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: General Ahmed Vahedi.
• 23:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I absolute believe the power of USTs with the
• 23:13
  Speaker 14: with the guys with the guns, and this is the
• 23:14
  Speaker 14: irgc UH and they control that situation. I think what
• 23:21
  Speaker 14: happened here Iran is masters at negotiation. I mean they're
• 23:27
  Speaker 14: they come in addressed very similar to people from the
• 23:31
  Speaker 14: United States and the West, somewhat urbane and sophisticated. They
• 23:36
  Speaker 14: know how to talk to us, they know how to
• 23:40
  Speaker 14: aspire to what our expectations are. And having spoken to
• 23:44
  Speaker 14: our negotiators, I got a sense of what happens to them.
• 23:49
  Speaker 14: And then they make promises that they have no intention
• 23:53
  Speaker 14: to keep our negotiators aren't making these things up. President
• 23:56
  Speaker 14: Trump has gotten so frustrated with the fact that they
• 24:01
  Speaker 14: may be sophisticated, they may talk nice, but they're bold
• 24:04
  Speaker 14: faced liars. And he's coming to grips with that reality.
• 24:09
  Speaker 14: And certainly, yes, the decision makers are not in the negotiation.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That's just a fact.
• 24:16
  Speaker 14: The Straits of a Mouse is something that the Iranians
• 24:20
  Speaker 14: have wanted to take control of for forty seven years.
• 24:24
  Speaker 14: They have four objectives in the Middle East, and that
• 24:28
  Speaker 14: is to dominate, to control the region. Two to take
• 24:31
  Speaker 14: control of gulf oil distribution. Three destroy the state of Israel,
• 24:37
  Speaker 14: and four pushed the United States military out of the
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: area so it loses its influence in the region. They
• 24:45
  Speaker 14: have been able to achieve control of the Straits of
• 24:49
  Speaker 14: a Mouse to some degree ever since March the second.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: And they are emboldened by this, Andrew.
• 24:56
  Speaker 14: Because they believe they have bent the United States to
• 25:00
  Speaker 14: their will. And they look at the Straits of the
• 25:03
  Speaker 14: moves as comparable to actually a nuclear weapon. And I'm
• 25:06
  Speaker 14: not exaggerating here, because why it gives them geo political
• 25:10
  Speaker 14: influence in the region and leverage over the countries in
• 25:15
  Speaker 14: the region. In terms of political blackmail, similar to what
• 25:19
  Speaker 14: having a nuclear weapon would do for them. They are
• 25:22
  Speaker 14: not going to give this up willingly. We will have
• 25:26
  Speaker 14: to fight them for it.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: In my view, General, I know that must really frustrate you.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: You've always said this war. You know you didn't like
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: this war ending this abruptly. It had to be settled militarily,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and you know I have to say, General, I know
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: you don't like getting personal and destroying relationships. I put
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of this on Steve Wvitkoff, who I think
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: it's the world's worst diplomat ever. He was a patsy
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: for letting me a putin thought lend me putin was
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: you know, fair and income about, you know, negotiating peace?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: There has been sold a pup. Are these guys talking
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: smooth and acting tough? I don't know. I think it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: that guy's got to get fired. But where is this
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: world going now? Do you think inevitably it will have
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: to be stepped up and sort it out militarily?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 26:17
  Speaker 14: I do believe that, but I don't believe that is
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: where we are yet. I think what the President is
• 26:24
  Speaker 14: going to do here if Iran continues to interfere he's
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: going to respond in kind along the pattern we have
• 26:33
  Speaker 14: just seen here, probably with some gradual escalation, but not
• 26:38
  Speaker 14: returning to full combat operations.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I think he wants to continue.
• 26:43
  Speaker 14: The negotiations and at the same time hold around accountable
• 26:49
  Speaker 14: for any straits of the move's interference, and still counting
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: that maybe the diplomacy and the negotiations will bear some fruit,
• 27:00
  Speaker 14: particularly as it pertains to nuclear weapons. I am completely
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: skeptical about that reality. They are going to recover and
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: rebuild and return to all of their objectives that I
• 27:14
  Speaker 14: laid out, and they're not going to give up on
• 27:17
  Speaker 14: any of it. I think that is where they truly are.
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: They have been recovering their ballistic missiles and their launchers
• 27:24
  Speaker 14: for more than a few months, a couple of months now,
• 27:27
  Speaker 14: and so in a nuclear enterprise, they have begun to
• 27:31
  Speaker 14: recover it in media reporting at Pickax Mountain, and according
• 27:36
  Speaker 14: to the MoU, we're supposed to maintain the status quo
• 27:40
  Speaker 14: no recovery, but they are clandestinely doing just that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: And what does that tell you?
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: That tells you that they're about wanting to recover their
• 27:50
  Speaker 14: nuclear program and they're about not wanting to give up
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: control of the straits of a mouse, and they're going
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: to try to delay these negotiations as much as possible,
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: and hopefully in their minds that President Trump will just
• 28:04
  Speaker 14: get so fat up with the whole thing that and
• 28:07
  Speaker 14: sometime some months from now he just would declare victory
• 28:11
  Speaker 14: and walk away.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: I'll bet very big on exactly that, General, I think
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: you'll spot on just quickly. Finally, there's also the Ukraine War,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: of course, which Russia now seems to be losing on
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the ground a horrific death toll estimates of four hundred
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand Russian dead. The President has now given
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Ukraine permission to build its own patriot missiles interceptors. They'll
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: hand over the plans because the US doesn't have any
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: spare ones of its own given the war in Iran
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to give to Ukraine right now when Ukraine actually needs
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: them to defend its cities from Russian missiles. He's the president.
• 28:52
  Speaker 13: We're going to give a license to you to make patriots.
• 28:55
  Speaker 13: That's pretty cool right this way. You can't complain that
• 28:58
  Speaker 13: we're not giving them enough yourself. We haven't informed the
• 29:03
  Speaker 13: company of that yet, but that'll work out all.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Right, General Keene. How important is that decision.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: It is crucial.
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: Here's so our aredience understands. We've watched Russia conduct these
• 29:18
  Speaker 14: major salvos where four or five hundred drones come into Ukraine,
• 29:24
  Speaker 14: a couple of dozen ballistic missiles and also maybe fifteen
• 29:30
  Speaker 14: to twenty cruise missiles. Ukraine takes down routinely ninety plus
• 29:36
  Speaker 14: percent of the drones, eliminates most of all of the
• 29:40
  Speaker 14: cruise missiles, and for the last number of attacks that
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: have taken place, they haven't shot down a single ballistic missile.
• 29:48
  Speaker 14: And why is that? Because they don't have the means
• 29:51
  Speaker 14: to shoot them down. That is where Ukraine is and
• 29:55
  Speaker 14: is in a desperate situation in terms of defeating ballistic missiles.
• 30:00
  Speaker 14: I wish this decision had been made sooner. It is
• 30:03
  Speaker 14: the right decision, but obviously to stand up the manufacturing
• 30:08
  Speaker 14: capability to produce pack three intercepts is going to take
• 30:12
  Speaker 14: some time and Ukraine will suffer the consequences waiting for that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 14: This is an act of desperation on Putin's part. The
• 30:21
  Speaker 14: title war has turned against him Andrew and he's trying
• 30:25
  Speaker 14: to punish and kill as many civilians as possible to
• 30:29
  Speaker 14: put pressure on Zelenski to make concessions. I guarantee you
• 30:32
  Speaker 14: he will not make concessions and also put pressure on
• 30:35
  Speaker 14: a Trump administration to pressure Zelenski to make concessions.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I don't believe even now with Putin.
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: As general certainly understanding they're not going to ever take Ukraine.
• 30:50
  Speaker 14: Whether Putin believes that, I don't know, but I do
• 30:54
  Speaker 14: know this. I doubt seriously he is really intent on
• 30:58
  Speaker 14: making serious negotiats where he would make substantive concessions and
• 31:03
  Speaker 14: go to a ceasefire. Despite what he's told President Trump,
• 31:06
  Speaker 14: I still think he believes he can wear the United
• 31:09
  Speaker 14: States down and wears Lanscape down as well.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I think same story, two different wars. They think they
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: can that Donald Trump will lose interest and walk away.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: We shall see. General Jack Keane, thank you so much
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: for your time.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Great talking to Andrew as always.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: After the break, Anthony Albertese he was all over India's
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Prime minister in Melbourne today and I have to tell
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you it was very strange. It's not really so surprising
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: that Anthony Aberantese was today all over India's prime minister.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: They're Indimodi, the Hindu nationalists. Who's in Melbourne for a visit.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: There are now nearly a million Indian born people in
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Australia a million. It's the biggest group of foreign born residents,
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: bigger even now than the British. And just think of
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: all that potential labor voters. Melbourne is also the Indian
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: capital of Australia. Many Indians here obviously love Mody. Up
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to thirty thousand of them are expected to join him
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: at a rally at Marvel Stadium tonight. Now it's no wonder,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: of course, that Albanzi also loves multiculturalism, which is a
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: vote winning policy to throw money at ethnic groups. And
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: here's the sign, a sign of the perversion that causes.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: When Mody visited Donald Trump, Trump boasted about how much
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: investment he had brought to build America.
• 32:36
  Speaker 13: Prime Minister's building a lot in the United States, spending
• 32:39
  Speaker 13: a lot of money in the United States.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: But where Mody today visits Anthony Albanesi. Albanzi boasts about
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: how much investment Australia's top superfund is sending to build India.
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: I welcome the announcement that we have had this morning
• 32:57
  Speaker 12: from Paul Schreider from Australians that they will invest an
• 33:02
  Speaker 12: additional five hundred million Australian dollars in the India's National
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: Investment and Infrastructure Fund.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks for visiting here, have half a billion of our money.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: Multiculturalism is so wonderful. Now a contrast anti Albanese's treatment
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: of another foreign leader, a woman, Japanese Prime Minister Snae Takeichi,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: not just a woman, but someone who can't give labor
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: many ethnic votes, because all right, there's a million Indians here,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: but there are a fewer than fifty thousand Japanese. It
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: was a you know, I just can't get over how
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: rude and sexist Albanesi was the Takichi and how little
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: feminist in journeys seemed to care. Where are the demands
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: that he apologized to her? Now, I've told you before
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: how Takeichi came to Australia in May and gave Albanzi
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a gift of a crown melon a very ceremonial President
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Ja and how alban Easy on a podcast later turned
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that into a smutty joke at Tucky, She's expense.
• 34:07
  Speaker 12: To something I got recently here that was pretty strange
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: but ended up being quite good. Yeah, it was a melon.
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: The Japanese Prime minister brought a melon?
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: How did you get that through custom?
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: She it's a royal melon.
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: She smuggled it was a she she she smuggled it.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: Oh, I got a couple of melons.
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: She brought too.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: She brought too as you do.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: She just came in looking like Pamela r Anders.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: She brought to.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Joining me is make Newman as a commentator, corporate advisor
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: and former New South Wales Senior Trade and Investment Commissioner
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: to Japan and Korea. Man who's live for years in Japan. Mike,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: thanks for your time again. Look first the Albany is
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: he posting about how much investment in superphones we're sending
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: to India? Does a that is a former trade commissions track.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: It's a bit odd that, you know, we give someone
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: all this money instead of bosting about how much we're getting.
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: Well, the first comment I'd make, Andrew is that five
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: hundred million dollars in India nowadays probably won't even touch
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: the sides I was speaking to my partners earlier today,
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: A two hundred apartment complex in Delhi, average selling price
• 35:21
  Speaker 10: of two point five million, sold in three minutes and
• 35:23
  Speaker 10: fifty six seconds. So they gives you an idea of
• 35:26
  Speaker 10: the scope. But I would say in the reverse, the
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: Japanese corporates have five trillion with a t dollars of
• 35:33
  Speaker 10: cash on their balance sheets and would love to spend
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: it in Australia. However, our government here seems not to
• 35:38
  Speaker 10: want to make it easy for them to do so,
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: because a lot of it is involved in sectors which
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: our government is not too fond of, i e.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Cole and gas.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: No, well, there you go. Well she's speaking of Japan
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: and you as a former trade commissioner, their senior trade commissioner.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: How many is he mocking Japanese, the Japanese Prime Minige
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: as a woman mocking her melons? How would that go
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: down in the japan that you know?
• 36:06
  Speaker 10: Well, of course they'd be deeply disappointed, and they were
• 36:09
  Speaker 10: very disappointed that the Prime Minister didn't show up to
• 36:11
  Speaker 10: the fiftieth anniversary of the Nara Treaty dinner and nordered
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: Angus Taylor for that matter. But I think the Japanese
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: are probably the most adept at social ikido. And ikido
• 36:22
  Speaker 10: is the Japanese martial art where you use your opponent's
• 36:25
  Speaker 10: force to throw them using their power so you know,
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: the Japanese will take this to heart. They will not
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: forget it, but you will not hear them really raise
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: their voices to complain or anything of this nature. That
• 36:39
  Speaker 10: will just be quietly absorbed and they will see it
• 36:44
  Speaker 10: as yet another reason why Japan is sorry. Australia is
• 36:47
  Speaker 10: becoming far more difficult to invest in because they see
• 36:50
  Speaker 10: us as more and more as sovereign risk. And I've
• 36:52
  Speaker 10: been saying this repeatedly for the last five years.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Well, given that, I mean, should how an easy apologize
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a prime in the tsaki ichi or from what you're saying,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: will that just make things worse by you know, naming
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: what it is that is done.
• 37:08
  Speaker 10: Well, look, I don't think an apology will do anything.
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: And if I was usually in Japan, apologies tend to
• 37:14
  Speaker 10: go via third party. So perhaps if I was to
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: speak to the Prime Minister of Japan, I'd say taky
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: sory taihem moshak adi masen, which means I'm completely sorry
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: for our prime minister's antics. And really I just hope
• 37:28
  Speaker 10: that you know, this government needs to start taking Japan
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: far more serious sooner rather than later, otherwise we will
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: end up regretting little incidents like the melons, which just
• 37:39
  Speaker 10: only add to the already overwhelming evidence that Australia is
• 37:43
  Speaker 10: becoming harder and harder to invest.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Well, Mike, if you really hurry, you might just catch
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: that last flight to Tokyo this evening to do exactly
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: that for the country, to do us a national favor.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, indeed, for your time, Mike Newman
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: really siated. After the break, One of Australia's top universities
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: says it has a job for a lecturer in mathematical physics,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: but only if you're a woman or transgender. The panel
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: coming up.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this week how China was just streating us
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: in technology and engineering. But good news, one of our
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: finest universities is this week decided to beef up its
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: maths staff. It's advertised for e lecturer in mathematical physics,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: so already it sounds like we might be back on
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: the right track. In fact, even better, the university wants
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: two of them, but there's a very Australian catch. Only
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: if the second one is a woman, or they could
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: even be transgender. So I guess it is open to
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: some men after all, as long as they do call
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: themselves female. Is Melbourne University truly into excellence or now
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: into mushy woke feel good because it has a record
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it is already hard fake Aboriginal Bruce Pasco as a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: professor and a discipline that he made up Indigenous agriculture
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: when Aborigines were in fact hunter gatherer's not farmers, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: it now even has a program of Indigenous and cultural astronomy.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Joining me is the panel former Liberal Senator Holly Hughes
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: now with One Nation, and Christi McSweeney has worked for
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: coalition prime ministers and premiers. I mean, Christy, should a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: top university insist that only women in transgender people can
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: apply for a job lecturing in mathematical physics, Well.
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: I think women and transgender are two separate categories, not
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: at like the conflation of both of those.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: But I will.
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: Say that there is a lack of women in STEM education,
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: just as there is a lack of men teaching primary school.
• 39:51
  Speaker 7: So maybe it's one of these things where we have
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: to reverse the balance and we have to look at
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: these things on a case by case basis. But I
• 39:58
  Speaker 7: would hate to see a less qualified person get that
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: position because of their gender or their binary identification if
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: they didn't meet the same standard as other people who
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: might have wanted to apply.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Holly, isn't that exactly the issue. You wouldn't
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: say only women can apply or transgender unless you were determined,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to horror, maybe someone who was second or third, or
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: fourth or fifth best, as long as they were a
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: woman and not her the most skilled person that would apply.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: You would only assist on that if you weren't sure
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the woman was the best for the job.
• 40:34
  Speaker 15: I'm just surprised these guys know how to even define
• 40:37
  Speaker 15: a woman.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: I mean, this is the problem.
• 40:38
  Speaker 15: I mean, it does my head in constantly that they
• 40:41
  Speaker 15: don't know what a woman is. They can't define what
• 40:44
  Speaker 15: a woman is. A woman isn't a female adult with
• 40:47
  Speaker 15: two X chromosomes. I mean, it wasn't that long ago,
• 40:50
  Speaker 15: and I mean I'm talking a couple of weeks there
• 40:52
  Speaker 15: was outrage because there was a fashion label to put
• 40:55
  Speaker 15: a T shirt out for girls too pretty for maths.
• 40:58
  Speaker 15: I mean, the whole world has gone completely and utterly mad.
• 41:02
  Speaker 15: I bet they don't have safe spaces for just women
• 41:05
  Speaker 15: at the University of Melbourne. I mean, the whole thing
• 41:08
  Speaker 15: is ridiculous. And the fact Miss McSweeney, you are one
• 41:12
  Speaker 15: hundred percent right. I am not a CIS woman. I
• 41:15
  Speaker 15: am a woman, and I do not conflate that with
• 41:17
  Speaker 15: trange women in the same way at all.
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Where's that pronoun company from?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Well, I just find it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: The pronouns.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's true too, that's true too. But honestly,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I find it a disgrace that a university should say
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: we're not going to take the best candidate. We're going
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: to take the best candidate of this gender or this
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  Speaker 2: sexual orientation or something that I find is such a
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: cheat on the potential mathematical physicists that have lined up
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  Speaker 2: to get the best education they can afford at the
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: university today. One, I mean, that's just a cheat.
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  Speaker 5: Now, country, we're only taking it's you imagine.
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  Speaker 2: Please, I don't want I don't want AKMA to take
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: us off here for sins against the sensitive souls. Overseas,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: of course, thank you, No, no, we don't even want
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: that overseas the countries of course, with a very different
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: and harder edge. You've got the NATO meeting in Turkey
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: now wrapping up. They were all there. Canadian promise the
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: British Prime Minister Donald Trump Et cetera, et cetera, and
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: the host President one of Turkey has given all the
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: leaders are present to take home. It is a pistol
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: and a packet of ammunition. And I've got to say,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I've got to say, Holly, that this really is a
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: sign of the times. Canada's Prime minister typically said he
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: will decommission his own so it cannot fire bullets, and
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: maybe give it to a museum. What does this tell you?
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  Speaker 15: Well, that's just everything about Canada, isn't it. I mean,
• 42:56
  Speaker 15: they're all in there, they're only second behind us to
• 42:59
  Speaker 15: put the white But kis Starmer saying, you know, oh,
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  Speaker 15: I couldn't possibly take it back to the UK. It's
• 43:04
  Speaker 15: illegal to take a gun on his prime ministerial jet.
• 43:08
  Speaker 15: I mean, is the guy even still prime minister? It
• 43:10
  Speaker 15: just all seems a bit strange. But I actually think,
• 43:13
  Speaker 15: you know, when you're trying to put together the Bombagieri
• 43:17
  Speaker 15: for a wedding, why not put a pistol.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: And some ammo in there. It could make the afterparty
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: it'd be more interesting. Who knows, certainly, Chris, what do
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: you make of it?
• 43:28
  Speaker 7: Well, this is their this is their opportunities to keep
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: to make a big splash, and this is what they
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: want to give people as a memento to remember the
• 43:37
  Speaker 7: large scale event. You know, I'm only really disappointed that
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: Chris Bowen has to now try and find an appropriate gift,
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: given that he's the president and spend helping him churm
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: Kena for his cop conference. I don't know what he
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: is going to come up to with.
• 43:52
  Speaker 6: It's a hard.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: Act to follow. Are we on the ob secret call
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: it curse?
• 43:56
  Speaker 15: Calling it two turkey?
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: That's another thing that's well right now?
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: When did we have to pull it together? I feel
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: like there was once a fantastic comedy recording of an
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: elderly Man River where someone transgress all these all these
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: little sensitivity things and kept getting beat as he tried
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: to sing old Man River. I feel like I'm in
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: that episode right now. Pauline Hanson going on the podcast
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: with the British study Tommy Robinson Holly, I got to say,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: is that seriously a good move?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 15: Look, I think absolutely. Pauline is happy to speak to
• 44:32
  Speaker 15: anyone anywhere. I mean, I'm sure she's not going to
• 44:35
  Speaker 15: play the date Mary shag game, which is probably a
• 44:39
  Speaker 15: good idea.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen how that's recently panned out. I think most.
• 44:43
  Speaker 15: People you know are getting their news from all sorts
• 44:45
  Speaker 15: of different places.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to agree with everyone you talk to.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: But I think he's a thug groups.
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  Speaker 15: But the thing is, like, you know what, you want
• 44:53
  Speaker 15: to go hide in the Sydney Institute making stuffy speeches
• 44:56
  Speaker 15: or go out and talk to where the people are listening.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Are serious problem with Pauline doing it?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry and Christy please with you? Sorry you what do
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  Speaker 2: you mean?
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  Speaker 10: You know?
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  Speaker 7: But Pauline is a domestic political leader. I've got no
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: idea why the concerns of Tommy Robinson are something that
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: she wants to play into and associate herself with. He
• 45:20
  Speaker 7: has got multiple criminal convictions, he's a borderline likes very
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: much to associate and we're members of organizations with people
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: who have known Holocaust denis as well. That is a
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: whole bag of someone that I don't think does her
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: any favors because she is genuine and authentic and that
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: is what people like about her. I think this is
• 45:42
  Speaker 7: a bit too. It's straying into the danger zone for
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: reputation wise for her. Very different to Carl Stefanovic. If
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: he wants to interview or not interview people and call
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: it the public interest as a journalist. But this is
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: brand association what she's doing. And I don't think it's
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: a fits dangerous.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. Look when you think this
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: guy's biggest move was absolutely telling lies about a poor
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: fifteen year old boy ruining his life, falsely claiming he
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: was a bully who bashed the white girl Black and
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Blue happened to he was Muslim so fitted into Tommy
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Robinson and stick you know, got jailed for the for
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: refusing for repeating the libel when he was told by
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: judge not to. I mean, Holly, isn't this the kind
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: of thing that's going to turn off a lot of
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: people from potentially putting up their hand Because I know
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: a couple of really good people that want to join
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: one nation. Why would you want to associate yourself with
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: a party that now consorts with a thug like that,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: and you know promotes him.
• 46:46
  Speaker 15: Well, I mean, I don't know whether she's promoting him
• 46:48
  Speaker 15: with as as much as she's gone on to his podcast,
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: he wants to talk to her, that's you know, a
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: decision for Paul aid to mate. But she is prepared
• 46:55
  Speaker 15: to talk to anyone. I mean, this is a woman
• 46:58
  Speaker 15: who also went to jail off back of some pretty
• 47:01
  Speaker 15: spurious claims, so not the ABC, but you know, she's
• 47:06
  Speaker 15: happy to talk to anyone.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: And people are getting their news from all sorts of sources.
• 47:11
  Speaker 15: And I think when you talk and you know, brand
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: identity and brand damage, that sounds like inside the Beltway talk,
• 47:18
  Speaker 15: and that's the sort of thing that people in Australia
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: don't like at the moment. They want to hear all
• 47:22
  Speaker 15: sorts of opinions and they want to hear people talking straight.
• 47:26
  Speaker 15: And she does have a reputation for being genuine and
• 47:29
  Speaker 15: she'll say exactly what she thinks to whom ever, and
• 47:33
  Speaker 15: she doesn't always agree with who she talks to, So
• 47:37
  Speaker 15: I don't have a problem with who she wants to
• 47:38
  Speaker 15: talk to.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: I haven't heard it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 15: I don't know what she's said on it, but it
• 47:43
  Speaker 15: certainly can't be as bad as what the Prime Minister
• 47:45
  Speaker 15: did and the damage that he's done.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: And I just think, you know, it's this whole thing.
• 47:52
  Speaker 15: That doesn't matter what Pauline does, there's going to be
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: some sort of try to linkage and pull her down,
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: you know, especially by those Yeah, I believe.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Hello, Hello elements, Harry, you know that are not one
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: that is always continually trying to pull Handsome down. We're
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: going to say, Christy this, this is a mistake. This
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: is you don't need to go crazy. Now she's ahead,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: she should be normal.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll find a non criminal person to speak to
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: that has these views. There's plenty of here in the UK,
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: or find an identity in Australia to speak to. It
• 48:28
  Speaker 7: is brand association and if that is a Beltwegh term Holly, well,
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: where everybody knows what it means until we come up
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: with another term. That's the one that I will.
• 48:37
  Speaker 15: I mean, I think and with all respect, we've got
• 48:40
  Speaker 15: to go in the front.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: Bar've got to go.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: I'm so sorry amount of time Holly Hughes, Hally Hughes,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Christian sweety, great chat. Thank you to you both. Up
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  Speaker 2: next Sherry, hosted by James McPherson. Good note