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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on dan Hord and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast the one of these nights. Addition,
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Speaker 1: as we review Monday Night's loss in Denver, coming up
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Speaker 1: radio replays, locker room comments and postgame analysis from Dave Lappham.
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Speaker 1: since More NFL international games. The NFL played its first
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Speaker 1: regular season game in Ireland this weekend, as the Vikings
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Speaker 1: and Steelers squared off in Dublin. The league is playing
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Speaker 1: seven international games this year, but At a panel discussion
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Speaker 1: in Ireland over the weekend, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said
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Speaker 1: that the league eventually wants to increase that to sixteen
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Speaker 1: per year so that every team plays one. I'm here
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Speaker 1: for it. The bengals two trips to London were among
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Speaker 1: my favorite experiences as the team's radio voice, and I
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Speaker 1: look forward to Cincinnati's next international game, which seems certain
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Speaker 1: to happen in the next two years. No need for
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Speaker 1: a bunch of radio replays this week, just a few
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Speaker 1: key plays. Denver led seven to three early in the
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Speaker 1: second quarter when the Bengals made what looked like a
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Speaker 1: huge play. Crowning stops his right foot, drops straight back,
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Speaker 1: the pocket closed as he flings it high and deep.
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Speaker 1: T Higgins high points the ball and catches it over
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Speaker 1: the beleaguered Riley Moss all the way down at the
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Speaker 1: Denver fourteen yard line. There's a penalty flag at the
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage lasag A Marius Bimms penalized. Instead of
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Speaker 1: having the ball at the Denver fourteen, the penalty on
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Speaker 1: Mims moved it all the way back to the Cincinnati
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Speaker 1: forty four a forty two yard swing. It was the
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Speaker 1: most costly of eleven Bengals penalties. Denver took a fourteen
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Speaker 1: to three lead, and it looked like that would be
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Speaker 1: the halftime score when rookie Demetrius Knight got the first
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Speaker 1: takeaway of his career with roughly two minutes left in
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Speaker 1: the half. Nick's rolling right looking to throw the second
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Speaker 1: year QB fires and it is intercepted. You picked off
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Speaker 1: by Demetrius Knight in the corner of the end zone.
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Speaker 2: How about that played by the linebacker.
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Speaker 1: But Denver got the ball back with one oh nine
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Speaker 1: remaining and scored a backbreaking touchdown just before halftime. Nicks
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Speaker 1: back to throw. He's going to fire into the end
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Speaker 1: zone and it is caught for a touchdown eight seconds
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Speaker 1: left in the half, and a disastrous second quarter gets
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Speaker 1: worse for Cincinnati. The final score was twenty eight to
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Speaker 1: three Denver. After scoring on their opening drive, the Bengals
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Speaker 1: were shut out the rest of the way, finishing with
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Speaker 1: just one hundred and fifty nine yards of offense. Here
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Speaker 1: are a few of Jake Browning's comments to reporters in
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Speaker 1: a postgame news conference.
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Speaker 3: Very frustrating loss, and yeah, well you are a back
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Speaker 3: to work and figure out how we can be more
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Speaker 3: productive on offense and stop putting our defense in batspots.
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Speaker 3: As far as from returnover perspective, like, yeah, we played clean,
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Speaker 3: but we didn't move the ball, so who cares for me?
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Speaker 3: Like when you're struggling on offense and struggling to move
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Speaker 3: the ball, it's it's fighting that urge to you know,
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Speaker 3: have those frustration throws who're like trying to make something
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Speaker 3: happen and the next thing you know, it's an interception.
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Speaker 3: So you know, that's kind of that line you have
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Speaker 3: to tell. As far as I didn't feel like there
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Speaker 3: was anything down the field, just off of memory and
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Speaker 3: looking at the pictures on the sideline, I didn't feel
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Speaker 3: like there was anything down the field where I was like, ah,
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Speaker 3: I should have thrown that, but I was too afraid
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Speaker 3: of making a mistake, so I didn't, you know, I
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Speaker 3: think for the most part, I mean I hesitate to
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Speaker 3: say I put the ball where I was supposed to
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Speaker 3: go on each play because we didn't do anything on offense.
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Speaker 3: But for the most part that was kind of the case.
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Speaker 3: I didn't think effort was an issue. I think just
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Speaker 3: the last two weeks just feels like I've never really
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Speaker 3: had momentum, haven't really been explosive, haven't well, you know,
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Speaker 3: one or two good plays, and then we'll get into
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Speaker 3: a first and twenty and that's just you're fighting a
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Speaker 3: hard battle with one arm behind your back when you
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Speaker 3: end up in longer situations second and long, first and
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Speaker 3: long leading to third and long, and you know it's
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Speaker 3: not good offenses don't do that, so we need to
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Speaker 3: clean it up. And yeah, I mean I don't have
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Speaker 3: I don't think effort was an issue. I never questioned
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Speaker 3: anybody's effort in the locker room. I don't really think
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Speaker 3: that's how everything goes for the Bengals. But you know,
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Speaker 3: I do think it's a time when you've had two
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Speaker 3: tough losses where you have performed wrong offense. So you
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Speaker 3: do have to look at the mir and say, okay,
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Speaker 3: what is my role in this? And you know, removing
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Speaker 3: all the emotion and outside noise and just saying looking
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Speaker 3: at the film and saying, okay, what is my role
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Speaker 3: in this? What do I need to do better? And
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Speaker 3: for me, that's like I said, because you're entire of
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Speaker 3: me hearing about it here you say it, but that's
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Speaker 3: going to be my focus this week.
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Speaker 1: So what's a change in the Bengals starting lineup is
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Speaker 1: rookie Jalen Rivers got his first started right guard. I
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Speaker 1: spoke to him after the game. Jalen, you made your
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Speaker 1: first NFL start tonight. When did you know that was
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Speaker 1: going to be the case today? So we made it
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Speaker 1: find the last today and you know, I was out there.
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Speaker 1: How'd you feel about, Hey, that opportunity and be how
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Speaker 1: you play.
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Speaker 4: You know, I feel great about the opportunity. You got
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Speaker 4: to make the most of it, and I feel like
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Speaker 4: I did decent from most where. Of course, you look
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Speaker 4: back at the film, it's some things to work on,
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Speaker 4: and of course we didn't come out with the outcome
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Speaker 4: we wanted. But it felt great to be out there
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Speaker 4: and you can learn from it and grow from it.
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Speaker 1: You started well offensively, drove down the field, kicked the
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Speaker 1: field goal on the opening drive. What did you think
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Speaker 1: was working then?
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Speaker 4: I mean, we just had everything was just we were
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Speaker 4: executing things really good that drive. We just got sustained
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Speaker 4: that for the rest of the game. What changed, you know,
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Speaker 4: things happened we you know, penalties weren't going you know,
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Speaker 4: stuff like that. Just not adjusting after the penalties, and
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Speaker 4: you know, things weren't going our way. We lost momentum
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Speaker 4: and things just went left for us.
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Speaker 1: How demoralizing were some of those penalties, particularly the Big
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Speaker 1: Game to Tea, where you would have been at the
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Speaker 1: fourteen yard line.
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Speaker 4: You know, things happened in football. You got to learn
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Speaker 4: from it and move forward. You know, we didn't play
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Speaker 4: our best game, but things happen, penalties, You got to
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Speaker 4: learn how to bounce back from it.
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Speaker 1: Broncos have a great pass rushing front. How difficult is
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Speaker 1: it under these circumstances, loud, crowd, momentum in their favor,
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Speaker 1: et cetera.
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Speaker 4: I mean we knew that going in that you know
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Speaker 4: they have a you know, the mile high stadium that
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Speaker 4: is allowed. You're going against the E league rushing defense.
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Speaker 4: I mean we knew that going in. We just did
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Speaker 4: it come with the outcome we wanted.
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Speaker 1: How do you flash it?
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Speaker 4: Move on? You got to flich it now. I mean
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Speaker 4: we move forward to it's a short week. We move
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Speaker 4: forward to Detroit on Sunday, So when we fly back,
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Speaker 4: sleep on it, learn from it, watch the film. We're
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Speaker 4: gonna learn how to learn from it. Just really quick
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Speaker 4: because we're off tomorrow. Come back Wednesday, or whatever day Wednesday,
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Speaker 4: and we're starting on Detroit, So you got to get
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Speaker 4: that out of your MinC with appreciate your time. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to know Jailing much better later in this
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Speaker 1: week's fun fact segment. The Broncos offense was excellent, finishing
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Speaker 1: with three hundred and twenty six passing yards and one
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Speaker 1: eighty six on the ground. That's five twelve in all.
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Speaker 1: One bright spot on the Bengals defense was Demitrius Knight,
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Speaker 1: who tied for the team lead in tackles with ten
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Speaker 1: and came away with the game's only takeaway to be true.
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Speaker 1: She had double digit tackles and an interception tonight. Let's
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Speaker 1: start with that interception. It's a huge play at the time.
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Speaker 1: Just describe it for us.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, first and foremost, I wouldn't have been in that
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Speaker 5: position when to make that catch and secure the catch
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Speaker 5: that I'm my lord and say for Jesus Christ, and
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Speaker 5: that's why I'm ultimately why I'm here.
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Speaker 4: We're all here. But what to play?
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Speaker 5: What a way to step up and you know, get it,
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Speaker 5: try to get this out of situation. Just to create momentum.
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Speaker 4: Uh.
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Speaker 5: Football is a game of momentum. When you have it
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Speaker 5: you have it, and when you don't, you don't. It's
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Speaker 5: kind of hard to generate it. But we gotta find
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Speaker 5: different ways generated offense. We gotta find ways to generate
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Speaker 5: on offense and defense. We've got to compliment it. We've
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Speaker 5: got to get it right back to them. So we
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Speaker 5: are in the process of iron out the kinks stu early.
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Speaker 5: We're not defeated yet. We're just going to the drawing board,
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Speaker 5: just as a lot of teams are doing across the
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Speaker 5: league right now. So everybody still find their identity. We
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Speaker 5: know what the identity is. We're just you know, in
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Speaker 5: a metaphor, we're still on the climb, still on that
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Speaker 5: journey to get there, to put down the roots of
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Speaker 5: what we want to be, who we're trying to be.
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Speaker 5: So people are itching to get back to where I
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Speaker 5: know I am.
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Speaker 1: You're in for almost every snap, Barrett played a bunch.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you two guys grow with every
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Speaker 1: NFL gaming play.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, That's all this is is. Learn to be consistent,
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Speaker 5: learn to trust your brothers, your left and to your right,
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Speaker 5: knowing that you can get the play call, echo the
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Speaker 5: play call, and go out there and do your best,
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Speaker 5: do your one eleventh to make sure that we can
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Speaker 5: get off the field. And that's what we're gonna continue
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Speaker 5: to do as a defense, and we're gonna continue as
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Speaker 5: an offense to grow and put points out when the
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Speaker 5: time it's called.
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Speaker 1: How challenging are the Broncos to defend? Very good screen game,
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Speaker 1: good offensive line, punishing runners. Talk about that challenge.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we step up for every challenge. You gotta step
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Speaker 5: up to every challenge in the NFL. All teams are.
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Speaker 5: They have their favorite play, and they have their momentum
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Speaker 5: plays and their their big momentum shifts, and teams find
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Speaker 5: what their bread and butter is for them, that's their
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Speaker 5: bread and butter.
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Speaker 4: And every week.
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Speaker 5: You gotta have a plan for We always have a plan.
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Speaker 5: We have an answer for everything. We just have to
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Speaker 5: know when to put the right answers in the and
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Speaker 5: to play if you will, and not overload our minds
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Speaker 5: and just make it simple so that everybody can play fast.
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Speaker 1: What's the touchdown with eight seconds left in the half?
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Speaker 1: A big blow because it was fourteen to three at
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Speaker 1: that point.
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Speaker 5: Right, Definitely a big blow, But it's you got to
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Speaker 5: kind of go back to your your little league quarterback
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Speaker 5: days or just Little League days in general, where you
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Speaker 5: know you hear a lot of coaches and even my
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Speaker 5: dad would say, you know, have short term memory. You
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Speaker 5: know when you come back out, what another you get
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Speaker 5: a next opportunity. There are no failures. There are just opportunities,
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Speaker 5: just missed opportunities. So there are no failures on the field.
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Speaker 5: We don't consider as an a fair We see it
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Speaker 5: as a missed opportunity. So and then you know, going
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Speaker 5: into the next half, what a next an opportunity? You
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Speaker 5: get to come out of the gate and get through
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Speaker 5: and out. So that's that's that's what you want to
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Speaker 5: stand on. So it's about learning from missed opportunities, never
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Speaker 5: learning from failures because we don't have failures because we
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Speaker 5: get to play the game that we love.
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Speaker 1: The offense had a good first drive, then struggle to
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Speaker 1: sustain things that had some costly penalties that meant the
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Speaker 1: defense was out there for a long stretch high altitude.
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Speaker 1: We did it start to wear on you guys?
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Speaker 4: I would say that it did.
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Speaker 5: It's of course, it's hard to to really train in
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Speaker 5: that type of situation in high altitude. You can hydrates
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Speaker 5: as much as you can, it's it's nothing until you
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Speaker 5: get in so but it's it's about, you know, learn
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Speaker 5: to breathe learn to calm yourself down, be in the
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Speaker 5: moment and not you know, run rapid in your mind.
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Speaker 5: Oh man, I can't catt some bred what's to play
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Speaker 5: call things like that. Just rely on your training at
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Speaker 5: practice when you know you have those tough Thursday practices
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Speaker 5: on purpose so that the games can be easier.
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Speaker 1: So you don't flitch one your only home game. You
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Speaker 1: got the second one coming up. It's a big challenge
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Speaker 1: against Detroit. As a defender, how much do you look
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Speaker 1: forward to trying to show Okay, it's one of the
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Speaker 1: best offenses in the league, but we can compete with
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Speaker 1: these guys.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely. That's that's the love of the NFL. You get
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Speaker 5: to go against the best of the best. I know,
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Speaker 5: my former team major mir Giz, I'll be looking forward to,
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Speaker 5: you know, putting them on the ground and talking talking
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Speaker 5: a little here and there, but definitely looking forward to
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Speaker 5: playing against the best of the best. He's one of
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Speaker 5: the best of the best. They're one of the best
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Speaker 5: of the best, Jared Goff and what they bring to
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Speaker 5: the table offensively with their you know, their firepower. I
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Speaker 5: believe we have the firepower to match that and cancel
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Speaker 5: it and go the you know, blow for blow. So
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Speaker 5: what an opportunity again to show showcase what we can
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Speaker 5: do on defense, to not just say who we want
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Speaker 5: to be, but to put it on tape who we
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Speaker 5: are and the same thing as.
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Speaker 1: Offense can grat tight your first peck. Appreciate the time, Yes,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Now let's hear from head coach Zach Taylor,
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Speaker 1: who spent a couple of minutes with Dave Lapham after
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Speaker 1: the game.
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Speaker 2: Once you come to the locker and you talk to
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Speaker 2: your guys, you find out the mindset that you guys have.
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Speaker 2: What do you say to them? Yeah, well, obviously they're disappointed,
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Speaker 2: as they should be. We score three points, so we
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Speaker 2: have the amount of penalties we had on offense that
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have a hard time winning against a.
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Speaker 6: Good team on the road. And so those are things
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Speaker 6: that are correctable. There's certainly things that we can improve upon,
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Speaker 6: and I know that we will. I thought our defense
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Speaker 6: showed us at moments in this game what we needed
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Speaker 6: against a really good football team. And so again we
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Speaker 6: just early in the season, we're two and two, like
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Speaker 6: a lot of teams in this league. How we're gonna
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Speaker 6: respond to it?
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Speaker 2: That's I guess the question, the big question. You mentioned
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Speaker 2: the defense, So I thought the defense did respond. I
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Speaker 2: thought that, you know, there was a lack of support,
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Speaker 2: I guess is the best way to put it in
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Speaker 2: terms of the offense holding onto the football, keeping the football,
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Speaker 2: scoring points, getting yards and all that sort of thing.
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Speaker 2: What do you tell your defense in the locker room
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Speaker 2: after a game like this.
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Speaker 6: Keep building on it, keep building on it, and eventually
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Speaker 6: the turnovers are going to come. The offense is going
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Speaker 6: to find its identity and create some momentum there to
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Speaker 6: take some of the pressure off some of those long
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Speaker 6: drives that they're having to deal with. So again, it's
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Speaker 6: four games in the season. I have a ton of conferences.
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Speaker 6: The football team. Again, it's just look around the league.
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Speaker 6: Who's going to respond to adversity early in the league.
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Speaker 6: And I feels good about our team as anybody else.
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Speaker 2: You've got quarterback jack Jake Browning that has responded to adversity.
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Speaker 2: I mean, his whole career has been built unresponding to adversity. Really,
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Speaker 2: he seems to be a guy that, no matter what
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Speaker 2: the stakes are, how many odds he has to face,
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Speaker 2: whatever the situation is, he picks himself up in response.
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Speaker 2: Do you expect that to happen again?
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Speaker 4: Absolutely?
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Speaker 6: I mean we walked into it as hard of an
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Speaker 6: environment as you're gonna face Monday night football on the
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Speaker 6: road in Denver with with one of the better fronts
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Speaker 6: in all the league, with the defensive player of the
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Speaker 6: year and the secondary. It's a tough unit to go against,
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Speaker 6: and you're gonna have to make some plays. You're gonna
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Speaker 6: have to find a way as a quarterback to make
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Speaker 6: some plays, or receivers have got to make some plays.
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Speaker 6: Our lines got to hold up and make some plays.
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Speaker 6: Our back's got to make somebody miss and make some plays.
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Speaker 6: So just as a unit, we've got to find a
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Speaker 6: way to be a little more explosive. And again, the
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Speaker 6: penalties really set us back. We had a lot of
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Speaker 6: unforced airs that we can't accept.
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Speaker 2: Remember playing against a defensive front like this when I
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Speaker 2: was a player, it might not have like just one
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Speaker 2: pass rusher. They got four. They get four guys that
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Speaker 2: can rush the pass or at a high level. So
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Speaker 2: it's not just one guy that you can slide double
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Speaker 2: triple team or whatever. Every one of these guys gets
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Speaker 2: in their rush lane, takes control of their rush lane.
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Speaker 2: That's even a tougher dynamic to handle, isn't it.
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Speaker 4: It's tough.
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Speaker 6: I mean it's an outstanding front. Again, we got to
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Speaker 6: do the little things to give ourselves an advantage. We just
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Speaker 6: didn't do enough.
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Speaker 4: That's night.
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Speaker 2: What about some of your players that you count on
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Speaker 2: to give you big performances every week? How did how
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Speaker 2: did they play? How did Jamar play for you? How
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Speaker 2: did how did he play for you?
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Speaker 6: He's competing, you know, and it's we got to continue
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Speaker 6: to find a way strust we do the whole week.
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Speaker 6: We're trying to find ways to get these guys the ball.
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Speaker 6: The other team knows that they're trying to find ways
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Speaker 6: to take the ball away from them. So again, it's
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Speaker 6: something we look at every single week. Some defenses make
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Speaker 6: it difficult for you and you got to be patient
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Speaker 6: with it and let those oppertunities come to you. And unfortunately,
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Speaker 6: we just weren't able to do a lot of great
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Speaker 6: things on the field today.
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Speaker 2: You think this defense had a pretty good handle on
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Speaker 2: what you were trying to do and how you were
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Speaker 2: trying to do it. By formation, by personnel, by motion
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Speaker 2: and all that sort of thing. Do you think that
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Speaker 2: they had a pretty good handle on what was happening.
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Speaker 6: I think they've had a pretty good handle on every
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Speaker 6: team they played against because they got great talent, they
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Speaker 6: got a veteran de coordinator. At home, they get a
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Speaker 6: chance to use their crowd and t off on the cadence.
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Speaker 6: So again, we just got to do better job as
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Speaker 6: a unit.
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Speaker 1: So here's how things look in the AFC Nord. The
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Speaker 1: Steelers are in first at three and one, a game
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Speaker 1: ahead of the Bengals. Pittsburgh has a bye this week
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Speaker 1: after beating the Vikings in London. The Ravens are one
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Speaker 1: and three and have allowed thirty five or more points
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Speaker 1: in all three losses. Injuries are mounting as well as
16:57
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Ronnie Stanley, rope On Smith, and Marlon Humphreys
17:02
Speaker 1: are among the players dealing with various aches and pains.
17:06
Speaker 1: The Ravens host Houston this week. Cleveland has also won
17:10
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17:13
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Speaker 1: Now time for the radio guy's recap. Tough night for
17:46
Speaker 1: the Bengals Lap. Let's start with the offense. They've got
17:49
Speaker 1: to find a way to get something going two years
17:52
Speaker 1: ago when Joe missed the last seven games, By and large,
17:54
Speaker 1: they did, and they didn't score as many points as
17:56
Speaker 1: they did with Joe, but they scored enough to win.
17:58
Speaker 1: They just have not functioned well the last two weeks
18:01
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they really haven't. I think the biggest thing that
18:05
Speaker 2: they've got to do is find a way to run
18:08
Speaker 2: the football. I mean, as a former alignment, I'd I'd
18:13
Speaker 2: be embarrassed. I'd be embarrassed myself, my teammates, for everybody involved,
18:18
Speaker 2: the coaches, it's you know, it's going to be you know,
18:22
Speaker 2: all hands on deck with respect to it. Uh, everybody's
18:27
Speaker 2: got to, you know, realize that it's not good enough.
18:30
Speaker 2: We got to do something about it, and we gotta
18:31
Speaker 2: we have the worm has to turn quickly, and the
18:34
Speaker 2: only way to do it is to get back to
18:36
Speaker 2: work and you know, putting the time at practice, you know,
18:40
Speaker 2: maybe think of different ways that they might be able
18:44
Speaker 2: to gain plan and uh, formation people and with personnel
18:49
Speaker 2: groupings and motion and uh, you know, I don't know.
18:54
Speaker 2: It's a it's a it's so bad. It really is
18:58
Speaker 2: about as bad as I've seen in a long time
19:01
Speaker 2: because of the talent level. If they had nobody, if
19:04
Speaker 2: they didn't have any players, would be like, hey, you know,
19:07
Speaker 2: this is expected. This is shocking how bad it is
19:11
Speaker 2: with the players and coaches and everybody that they've got
19:15
Speaker 2: that they can't go out and perform at a higher
19:16
Speaker 2: level than they are.
19:18
Speaker 1: Jalen Rivers moved into the starting lineup at right guard tonight.
19:20
Speaker 1: So they've got a rookie starting at left guard and
19:23
Speaker 1: a rookie starting at right guard. What issues does that create?
19:26
Speaker 1: And are you in favor of it in the sense
19:29
Speaker 1: that these are talented guys, Let's get them the experience
19:32
Speaker 1: so that we've got something down the road.
19:34
Speaker 2: Well, it does create a lot of issues, but they
19:36
Speaker 2: don't have any choice. I mean, they don't really have
19:39
Speaker 2: anybody else because guys are nicked up. Guys that have
19:42
Speaker 2: some play of time, some NFL starts in playing time
19:48
Speaker 2: are on the bench with injury. But they haven't really
19:51
Speaker 2: worked together all that much anyway. So it's not like
19:54
Speaker 2: you're taking a cohesive offensive line and blowing it up
19:57
Speaker 2: and saying, you know, this guy's short of that guy.
20:00
Speaker 2: It's they're injured, but they've never been a unit that was,
20:06
Speaker 2: you know, one of the top in the league in
20:08
Speaker 2: terms of going out and executing and performing because they've
20:11
Speaker 2: been around together for such a long period of time.
20:13
Speaker 2: So you know, I think if they don't have a
20:17
Speaker 2: choice but to put Jalen Rivers in there. And it's
20:20
Speaker 2: in my mind it's not like he doesn't belong. I
20:22
Speaker 2: think he belongs in the National FOOTB League. I think
20:24
Speaker 2: he's a good player. I think he's got a very
20:26
Speaker 2: bright future. I think that these snaps that he's getting
20:29
Speaker 2: right now are going to be invaluable to him as
20:32
Speaker 2: he grows and matures as an offensive lineman in this league.
20:35
Speaker 4: I really do.
20:36
Speaker 2: I think he's going to be a really good one.
20:38
Speaker 1: Five catches for Jamar Chase in the game. They didn't
20:40
Speaker 1: go for a ton of yards. Have we reached the
20:43
Speaker 1: point where you have to line him up in the
20:45
Speaker 1: backfield a couple of times. You've got to do some
20:48
Speaker 1: reverses and jet sweeps, whatever it takes to try to
20:52
Speaker 1: see if you can get him the ball to make
20:54
Speaker 1: a big play.
20:55
Speaker 4: Yeah.
20:55
Speaker 2: I mean, I like the way you think, and you know,
20:56
Speaker 2: get the ball in his hands, get him involved. I mean,
21:00
Speaker 2: he's got to be unbelievably frustrated that this guy is
21:04
Speaker 2: one of the greatest players in the National Football League,
21:07
Speaker 2: you know, just a tremendous football player, one of the
21:09
Speaker 2: best wide receivers. Is not the best that the beanngs
21:12
Speaker 2: have ever had. I mean they do. They have to
21:15
Speaker 2: figure out ways. If it's in the backfield, you know,
21:18
Speaker 2: getting them some carriers, tossing the football to him, or whatever,
21:23
Speaker 2: jet sweeps or you know, whatever the case may be. Screens,
21:26
Speaker 2: receiver screens, middle screens, outside screens. Find ways to give
21:30
Speaker 2: him the football. I mean, he's too good of a player,
21:32
Speaker 2: he's too much of a threat. I mean, he is
21:35
Speaker 2: the ultimate weapon. Every team in the NFL every single
21:39
Speaker 2: year is looking for Jamar Chase in the draft or
21:42
Speaker 2: in free agency, and we got them. We got one.
21:45
Speaker 2: He's under contract, so we got to figure out a
21:47
Speaker 2: way to use this dude and don't waste them.
21:50
Speaker 1: This is a phenomenal locker room with a lot of leaders,
21:54
Speaker 1: but the human beings, and when you take back to
21:56
Speaker 1: back lopsided losses, it's hard not to splinter a little bit.
22:01
Speaker 4: How do you avoid that?
22:02
Speaker 1: If you're Zach Taylor and you're the captains on this team.
22:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's natural to start questioning everything. You question yourself,
22:10
Speaker 2: you question your teammates, You question the head coach. I mean,
22:12
Speaker 2: what's going on? How can we not perform better than this?
22:15
Speaker 2: What is what's what's happening? You start to question the coordinators,
22:20
Speaker 2: You start to question position coach, You question everybody. You
22:23
Speaker 2: question what you're eating. Your question how you're working out,
22:26
Speaker 2: You question what your wife doing. You know, I mean
22:29
Speaker 2: everything there is the question in your life. You're questioning
22:31
Speaker 2: it because you know your life's so unsettled, because this
22:34
Speaker 2: is what you're all about. This is your job, this
22:37
Speaker 2: is the National Football League, grown men playing a kids game,
22:41
Speaker 2: and you're getting paid handsomely to do it. I mean,
22:44
Speaker 2: everybody in the world would want to have your job,
22:46
Speaker 2: So you know, you're not going to spit the bid
22:49
Speaker 2: on it. You're not going to give it up. But
22:51
Speaker 2: things have to change, and they have to change quickly.
22:53
Speaker 2: I mean, there are only four games into the season.
22:57
Speaker 2: They're two and two. As you said, you know, I mean,
22:58
Speaker 2: they're they're right, they're in the hunt. They just can't
23:03
Speaker 2: they can't let the hunt get too far away from them,
23:05
Speaker 2: whether they can't catch up to everybody that's in the hunt.
23:08
Speaker 1: They didn't turn it over tonight, that's a positive. But
23:10
Speaker 1: the penalties were killers double digit penalties in the game,
23:13
Speaker 1: including four in a two minute span in the second
23:16
Speaker 1: quarter when it looked like they were going to have
23:18
Speaker 1: the ball at the fourteen yard line. I thought that
23:20
Speaker 1: really swung the momentum in this game.
23:23
Speaker 2: All kinds of penalties to all different types of procedural penalties,
23:26
Speaker 2: you know, sloppy hands penalties, whether it's holding offense or
23:31
Speaker 2: defensive holding, whether it's interference, pass interference, getting a little
23:34
Speaker 2: bit too handsy, too grab you out there. I mean,
23:38
Speaker 2: you know, when you're struggling and you've only got three
23:41
Speaker 2: points on the board and less than two hundred yards
23:43
Speaker 2: and you have a big plane that comes back because
23:45
Speaker 2: what you did, not what the defense did to take
23:48
Speaker 2: it away from which you did to take it away
23:49
Speaker 2: from yourself. There's no worse feeling in the world than
23:53
Speaker 2: that when you're I mean, it's like, you know, you
23:55
Speaker 2: haven't eaten for a week, and all of a sudden,
23:57
Speaker 2: there's you know, a scrap of food comes your way
23:59
Speaker 2: and you know you're almost ready to bite it, and
24:01
Speaker 2: it's gone. You know, it's taken away from you. It's
24:04
Speaker 2: just it's a it's a sick feeling, that's for sure.
24:06
Speaker 2: And these guys, uh, right now. You know I've been
24:10
Speaker 2: there walking around this locker room looking at these guys faces.
24:12
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know, I know. I know what
24:15
Speaker 2: you feel, and I know what you I know what
24:16
Speaker 2: you think, and I know what you feel like. I've
24:18
Speaker 2: been there. The only thing that is going nobody's going
24:21
Speaker 2: to feel sorry for you, and they shouldn't. Nobody should
24:23
Speaker 2: feel sorry for you. Everybody's got their own problems. What
24:26
Speaker 2: you're going to do is go back to work, grind
24:29
Speaker 2: it out. That's what got you here. You know you're
24:32
Speaker 2: good enough to be here. Don't question everything, go out
24:35
Speaker 2: and play.
24:37
Speaker 1: I am still very confident that Al Golden is an
24:41
Speaker 1: excellent defensive coordinator and he's going to do a really
24:43
Speaker 1: good job in Cincinnati. But maybe I was naive to
24:46
Speaker 1: think it would happen overnight. It's a work in progress.
24:48
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of young guys, and boy, they
24:53
Speaker 1: have to try to make some major strides in a
24:55
Speaker 1: short period of time with the high scoring Lions coming
24:58
Speaker 1: to town next week.
24:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
25:00
Speaker 4: You know.
25:01
Speaker 2: Everybody's good. I mean it's the NFL. There's no schmucks
25:05
Speaker 2: in there, man, I mean it's everybody. Everybody's got a quarterback.
25:08
Speaker 2: Everybody's good. Everybody's got players everywhere, the skill player. Everybody's
25:12
Speaker 2: got lineman. Again, I still think the biggest problem the
25:16
Speaker 2: area for the Bengals is offensive defensive line. They have
25:19
Speaker 2: to get that rectified, whether it be you know, trade,
25:23
Speaker 2: whether it be free agency, you know, at the end
25:26
Speaker 2: of this year at some point or next year, or
25:29
Speaker 2: in the draft or in college free agency. They got
25:31
Speaker 2: to get more people in here that can play football
25:35
Speaker 2: at a high level competing.
25:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean every way that you have at your
25:40
Speaker 1: disposal to continue to improve those two units that's got
25:44
Speaker 1: to be the priority O line and D line. Now,
25:46
Speaker 1: it'll help when Jamar Stewart comes back. He looked really
25:49
Speaker 1: good in the games that he played, but you're going
25:52
Speaker 1: to have to continue to pour resources into trying to
25:55
Speaker 1: improve those two units.
25:56
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:56
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, think about how they got some
25:59
Speaker 2: of the guys they got that are playing at a
26:01
Speaker 2: good level.
26:01
Speaker 4: For him, you know.
26:04
Speaker 2: Brown, you know, he he he was a free agent,
26:08
Speaker 2: veteran free agent, Cares, veteran free agent.
26:11
Speaker 4: You know.
26:11
Speaker 2: They and then the lineman, and you got some rookie
26:15
Speaker 2: guys and they're at the guard position in the draft
26:18
Speaker 2: and they're trying to learn from these veteran guys. Veteran
26:21
Speaker 2: guys are trying to help the younger players. I mean,
26:24
Speaker 2: right now, it's a it's a mess. I mean, everybody is,
26:27
Speaker 2: everybody's looking for answers and and nobody's got you know,
26:31
Speaker 2: clear cut answers. And when you're when you're kind of
26:34
Speaker 2: whistling and dark like that, it's a bad place to be.
26:37
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sorry, Game number one thousand wasn't a great
26:40
Speaker 1: Bengals victory, but hopefully Game number one thousand and one
26:43
Speaker 1: will be.
26:44
Speaker 2: I'm all for that, Dan, I mean appreciate. The kind
26:47
Speaker 2: words that you had for me means a lot. You're
26:51
Speaker 2: a great friend, a great broadcaster. You understand the game
26:54
Speaker 2: of football. Anything you say about football, you know is
26:59
Speaker 2: is meaningful and it means a lot to me, that's
27:01
Speaker 2: for sure. So appreciate you and hopefully the Bengals appreciate
27:07
Speaker 2: each other a little bit more, you know, and go
27:09
Speaker 2: out and try to win some football games for each other.
27:13
Speaker 1: Up next a home game against the high scoring Detroit Lions.
27:16
Speaker 1: That's a four to twenty five kick next Sunday at
27:19
Speaker 1: pay Course Stadium. Now time for this week's fun fact
27:23
Speaker 1: segment as we get to know a fifth round pick
27:25
Speaker 1: in this year's draft out of the University of Miami.
27:31
Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with rookie offensive linemen Jalen
27:34
Speaker 1: Rivers from Jacksonville, Florida. Jalen, we learned on Draft Day
27:38
Speaker 1: that your mother, father, and stepfather all served in the
27:41
Speaker 1: Navy for more than thirty years. How did their military
27:44
Speaker 1: background shape your upbringing?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an upbringing as anybody would guess, you know,
27:50
Speaker 4: come from a millerity background, strict household. Everything you learn
27:53
Speaker 4: in discipline at a very young age since I came
27:55
Speaker 4: off the womb. But also other than discipline, just hard
27:58
Speaker 4: work and you know, is dedicated in your all into
28:01
Speaker 4: something you want. So your goal, you have to reach it.
28:03
Speaker 4: Nothing to be given to you, obviously, but literally them
28:07
Speaker 4: picking me up late at night from the YMCA school,
28:09
Speaker 4: coming from work, and then them making sure I go
28:13
Speaker 4: to practice, do all the sports. I was a year
28:15
Speaker 4: long athlete, basketball, football, track and field, whatever it was.
28:19
Speaker 4: Take me to sports, making sure I do my homework, showering,
28:21
Speaker 4: and just repeating that cycle every single day while one
28:24
Speaker 4: parent was in deployment and deployment for like nine months.
28:28
Speaker 4: You grow up quick because you got to be like,
28:29
Speaker 4: you got to make sure everything's you know, straight, because yeah,
28:32
Speaker 4: I had siblings in the house wild, but you got
28:33
Speaker 4: to do things yourself growing up, and you got to
28:35
Speaker 4: learn like, this is what it takes to get what
28:37
Speaker 4: you want. So all that combined, you know, strict house
28:41
Speaker 4: will make you bad. Do this. It's very militant, but
28:44
Speaker 4: I wouldn't trade it for the world.
28:45
Speaker 1: He told me once, you were not allowed to go
28:47
Speaker 1: out on school nights.
28:48
Speaker 4: Don't know, I was never you could ask them and
28:50
Speaker 4: if I did shoot, I don't even know when I did.
28:54
Speaker 4: But if it was to go to the movies, be
28:55
Speaker 4: back at a certain time, if I did all my
28:57
Speaker 4: homework and they trusted me, everything was done, maybe that
29:00
Speaker 4: was rare. Though.
29:01
Speaker 1: Is the Army Navy game a huge thing in your household?
29:05
Speaker 4: Actually it's not. But because we grew up very we
29:11
Speaker 4: watched a lot of college football, like Miami. My stepdad
29:14
Speaker 4: was a big Miami fan, so we grew up watching
29:16
Speaker 4: a lot of Miami Florida, Miami, Florida State, a lot
29:18
Speaker 4: of them games. But at the same time, when Army
29:20
Speaker 4: and Navy was playing, my stepdad my mom were kind
29:25
Speaker 4: of following it, but it wasn't a big thing. Like
29:26
Speaker 4: if they were playing, we're watching it.
29:28
Speaker 1: We're visiting the Jalen Rivers. You're six sex with a
29:31
Speaker 1: seven foot wingspan. Did you always tower over the other
29:35
Speaker 1: kids when you were growing up?
29:37
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, up until I want to say, the first
29:42
Speaker 4: time I saw somebody told to me or like, you know,
29:45
Speaker 4: same height as me, maybe sixth grade maybe, and that
29:49
Speaker 4: was my friends, my god brother, Like that's when I'm like, okay,
29:53
Speaker 4: I was a year younger than them, actually, but we
29:55
Speaker 4: were the same height. So we played ball together, basketball, football,
29:57
Speaker 4: au and all that stuff. So that's the first time
29:59
Speaker 4: I I saw a lot of people my height are
30:01
Speaker 4: maybe taller than me. But at the same time, when
30:04
Speaker 4: I went to school and we were at school, we
30:05
Speaker 4: were the main ones. It was a handful of us,
30:07
Speaker 4: but we were tall, and everybody everybody was looking up
30:10
Speaker 4: those Oh you're so tall. Yeah, so I got that
30:12
Speaker 4: when I was young.
30:13
Speaker 1: Did you like that or did it make your self conscious?
30:17
Speaker 4: It never really made me self conscious. I mean it
30:20
Speaker 4: didn't bother me at all. Actually, it's just got tiring
30:23
Speaker 4: because everybody, even families, you know, parents' kids. It was
30:27
Speaker 4: my whole life, how tall are you? Oh you're so tall?
30:29
Speaker 4: How is it? How's the weather up there? That type
30:31
Speaker 4: of joke. But I mean getting it. It's just like I
30:33
Speaker 4: know I was tall when I started understanding that I
30:35
Speaker 4: was tall, and people keep asking me, people keep staring.
30:38
Speaker 4: So out in public, people stare or talk to you.
30:40
Speaker 4: Now if you're wearing back in the when all that
30:42
Speaker 4: Miami Miami stuff now Bengal stuff. They know I'm a
30:44
Speaker 4: full player, and they even if I wasn't, if I'm
30:46
Speaker 4: bigger than everybody, They're just asking and talking and staring,
30:49
Speaker 4: so I'm used to it now.
30:51
Speaker 1: And youth football, did parents of kids on the other
30:54
Speaker 1: team express concern or wonder if you are actually too old?
30:58
Speaker 4: No, and this is a true story. You can ask
31:01
Speaker 4: my parents. My mom had to really bring my birth
31:03
Speaker 4: certificate everywhere I went au and when I played Little
31:06
Speaker 4: League in football, I had to bring my birtha everywhere
31:09
Speaker 4: because everybody made a big deal like I was too old.
31:11
Speaker 4: Really I was younger than their kids too, because I
31:13
Speaker 4: was playing eight U TENU when I was a year
31:16
Speaker 4: young and everybody maybe two years young and everybody, so
31:19
Speaker 4: I'm like, here, this is the birth certificate. True. You know,
31:23
Speaker 4: I was born in Virginia. This is the certificate of
31:25
Speaker 4: Virginia in the Commonwealth. This is my birth certificate. And
31:27
Speaker 4: I'm this old. So they still didn't believe it though.
31:31
Speaker 1: We're chatting with Jalen Rivers. You attended Oak Leaf High
31:35
Speaker 1: School in Jacksonville and became one of the top offensive
31:38
Speaker 1: line recruits in the country. It offers from Alabama, Michigan,
31:41
Speaker 1: Penn State, you name it. Did you enjoy the attention
31:45
Speaker 1: or did you get tired of it?
31:47
Speaker 4: People that know me, they know I don't like attention.
31:49
Speaker 4: I don't like the spotlight, but I've I'm used to
31:52
Speaker 4: it now because even though I didn't like it, I
31:55
Speaker 4: formed a you know, to I guess, embrace it at
32:00
Speaker 4: one point in time because I'm I'm getting interviewed again.
32:02
Speaker 4: Oh you know, everybody's like, you know, calling me up
32:04
Speaker 4: to the office. My teachers like, hey, so and so,
32:06
Speaker 4: coach is here, this school is here to see you.
32:08
Speaker 4: So I mean, it was very fun to travel and
32:11
Speaker 4: visit and do camps and all that, but at one point,
32:14
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm tired of this because I hate the attention.
32:16
Speaker 4: Everybody's just like at school, like, oh my god, you
32:18
Speaker 4: got offered today, and it's like yeah, but me mean,
32:21
Speaker 4: but you know, I love I wouldn't trade it, like
32:23
Speaker 4: I said, for anything, but I don't really like the attentioner.
32:27
Speaker 1: You ultimately chose the University of Miami. Why the you?
32:32
Speaker 4: It's funny because at one point it wasn't Miami wasn't
32:35
Speaker 4: even consideration because they weren't recruiting me as hard. And
32:37
Speaker 4: then they picked it back up towards some I want
32:39
Speaker 4: to say, my end of my sophomore at first my
32:42
Speaker 4: early junior year, but they just continue recruiting me hard,
32:45
Speaker 4: and just like because at first I was about to
32:47
Speaker 4: pick Georgia. I was about I was just close to
32:49
Speaker 4: going to Georgia and then but Miami just kept recruiting me,
32:52
Speaker 4: Hey can you come to this game? Hey can you
32:53
Speaker 4: come this visit? And I kept going and you just
32:56
Speaker 4: feel that family atmosphere. And of course the coaches that
32:59
Speaker 4: were recruited me, some of them were still there when
33:01
Speaker 4: I got there, but some of them weren't. But I
33:02
Speaker 4: just still felt that I wasn't going because a coach,
33:05
Speaker 4: but I just ever some went to you urse Miami
33:07
Speaker 4: a visit. I was like, I just feel like family,
33:10
Speaker 4: you know, oriented it just it felt like a family
33:12
Speaker 4: atmosphere and I wanted to play it the U And
33:14
Speaker 4: then you know it was close to home too, so
33:17
Speaker 4: that played a factor. You know, it was Miami, Florida, Georgia,
33:22
Speaker 4: but but Miami just stole it.
33:25
Speaker 1: The Bangals selected you in the fifth round of this
33:27
Speaker 1: year's draft. Described your draft weekend.
33:30
Speaker 4: I was anxious because you know, during that draft, you
33:32
Speaker 4: don't know when you're gonna get picked. You might have
33:34
Speaker 4: an idea, your agent's like, oh maybe this round and
33:36
Speaker 4: this round, but it's really a waiting game. But I
33:40
Speaker 4: want to say I threw it was I had like
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Speaker 4: something on Friday where family just came over. During that
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Speaker 4: second day, second and third round, they came over and
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Speaker 4: we had like a smaller barbecue, but you know, I
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Speaker 4: was like, I might be I'm probably day three. So
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Speaker 4: but Saturday, everybody came back and we threw something. And
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Speaker 4: then it's just a waiting game. I just tried to
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Speaker 4: get my mind off everything, and you know, we had
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Speaker 4: some food food. I actually cooked mac and cheese because
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Speaker 4: I wanted to get my mind off of everything. But
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Speaker 4: I didn't want to wait, so I made mac and
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Speaker 4: cheese just you know, just with family. And then when
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Speaker 4: the fourth round started, you know, fifth round, I was
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Speaker 4: just just waiting, waiting, waiting, talking to my friend's family.
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Speaker 4: Then my name gets called or I get that call Cincinnati, Ohio,
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Speaker 4: and then I answered it is coach Taylor and he's
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Speaker 4: just talking and he's like, hey, we're gonna pick you
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Speaker 4: you know next. I'm like, oh my god, did I really?
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Speaker 4: I was speechless, but you know, I was just like
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Speaker 4: feel with gratitude at the time. And then after that call,
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Speaker 4: family has just recorded me. You know, I hate attention.
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Speaker 4: I get my hat. Then when they called my name
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Speaker 4: on the screen or put my name on the screen,
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Speaker 4: put my hat on. Just dap everybody up, hug everybody,
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Speaker 4: and then we just partied. You know, we we ate.
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Speaker 4: I didn't eat really that whole morning. I slept horrible
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Speaker 4: that night before because I was just my mind was
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Speaker 4: just I'm like, I need to know where I'm going
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Speaker 4: with her when I'm getting picked. But it was anxious,
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Speaker 4: but it was fun.
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Speaker 1: Your current Bank teammate Matt Lee, played with you for
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Speaker 1: one year at Miami. He said the following of everyone
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Speaker 1: I've played with, Jalen is one of the highest character
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Speaker 1: dudes ever. What does being a high character dude mean?
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Speaker 4: Do you? It means I come in every day with
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Speaker 4: a positive attitude. I never if I have a bad day,
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Speaker 4: I'm not really gonna show it because I'm here for
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Speaker 4: you know, I want to make everybody around me better.
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Speaker 4: So if I come in you know, drowsy or you know,
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Speaker 4: with low energy, then it's not making everybody around me better.
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Speaker 4: It's not making me better. So having a high character
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Speaker 4: just doing things the right way how I was raised,
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Speaker 4: not letting anything around me, any person around me, change me.
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Speaker 4: And just I mean just being me. I mean, I
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Speaker 4: don't really want to be fake or anything like. I
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Speaker 4: just be me and if somebody likes me, I just
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Speaker 4: I just had a good opportunity when I was at
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Speaker 4: Miami or my whole life, I just been me. I
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Speaker 4: just like making people around me better. And it's just
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Speaker 4: having a positive attitude, so having a high character. Everything
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Speaker 4: I do on the field, I'm gonna do it off
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Speaker 4: the field too, you know, just being the the person
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Speaker 4: my mother raised me, my parents raised me to be.
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Speaker 1: You shared with me previously that you are into cooking,
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Speaker 1: and you mentioned in this interview that you made mac
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Speaker 1: and cheese during the draft. How into it do you
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Speaker 1: watch cooking shows? Do you check out Cookbucks or recipes?
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Speaker 1: How deeply are you into cooking?
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Speaker 4: Well, my biological dad, he's a chef. He caters his
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Speaker 4: own catering business. So I never really cooked growing up
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Speaker 4: because I really didn't have the time. I was too
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Speaker 4: involved with sports class, you know, a year a long athlete,
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Speaker 4: doing school, I did not want to cook anything, actually
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Speaker 4: do anything else fro on my plate. So I want
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Speaker 4: to say, I just wanted to find out how to
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Speaker 4: be outside of football, and then I just started going
36:38
Speaker 4: you know to visit my dad a lot more, and
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Speaker 4: then you know, he started teaching me recipes helped him
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Speaker 4: during catering events. I want to learn how to make
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Speaker 4: this because I want to make food. I don't want
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Speaker 4: to keep wasting my money buying food. So yeah, I
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Speaker 4: learned I can make really chicken, palm, any type of
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Speaker 4: post obviously braised ribs, mac and cheese, you know, shoot,
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Speaker 4: name it stuff, salmon.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm salivating. Who is your all time favorite athlete
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Speaker 1: in any sport?
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Speaker 4: I want to say Kobe Bryant just obviously he's a
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Speaker 4: legend on the court, but at the same time, what
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Speaker 4: he's done for the community too. And then just being
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Speaker 4: from Miami, I want to say also, or not from Miami,
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Speaker 4: but going to Miami. Ray Lewis too. You know, growing up,
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Speaker 4: my stepdad loved ray Lewis, so I watched him every
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Speaker 4: single time we watched the NFL Baltimore Ravens, watched clips
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Speaker 4: of him at Miami. You know, I love what he does.
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Speaker 4: He brings that energy, and just I love being around
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Speaker 4: people that just bring that energy. You just love the
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Speaker 4: game of football. So growing up, we watched a lot
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Speaker 4: of him, and then he's came back and taught to
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Speaker 4: Miami when I was at Miami a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 4: And great person.
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Speaker 1: All right, final fun fact for Jalen Rivers. This one's
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Speaker 1: kind of deep. If you could meet anyone in history,
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Speaker 1: living or deceased, who would that person be.
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Speaker 4: I'm just say family, cause it's like not really anybody,
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Speaker 4: any celebrity, but like just I'm a big family god.
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Speaker 4: So like my grandpa that passed away, Like I feel
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Speaker 4: like since I would move to Florida with my mom
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Speaker 4: and my stepdad, my dad was still in Virginia. That's
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Speaker 4: my dad's dad, and I really didn't have an opportunity
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Speaker 4: to form that bond really but when I lived in
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Speaker 4: Virginia or when I went back to Virginia, we saw
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Speaker 4: each other every time I went, but like I didn't
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Speaker 4: really form that grandson and grandfather bond. And every time,
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Speaker 4: you know, I went back, it was only for like
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Speaker 4: a couple hours. So and then he passed away when
38:32
Speaker 4: I was a freshman in high school. So it's like,
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Speaker 4: you know, when that when he passed, I was like, dang,
38:37
Speaker 4: but I wish he was still alive, so I can
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Speaker 4: you know, form that bond and you know, he would
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Speaker 4: love to see you know where I was. Even with
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Speaker 4: my mom's dad too. He passed away when I was
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Speaker 4: when I was about six seven. So yeah, I wish
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Speaker 4: my grandparents still alive so I can have this. They
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Speaker 4: can be on this ride with me.
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Speaker 1: They would both be very proud. I can promise you
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Speaker 1: that jailing this has been great and I appreciate your time.
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Speaker 1: I'm best have left the rest of the year.
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Speaker 4: Appreciate you have a great day. Thank you.
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Speaker 4: Okay,