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Best of LinkedIn: Deutsche Telekom Launches Germany's First AI Factory · Best of LinkedIn: Digital Transformation & Tech

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  Speaker 0: This episode is provided by Thomas Allgeier and Frennis, based on the most relevant LinkedIn posts about KI fabric.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone.
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  Speaker 1: So today we are heading to Munich.
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  Speaker 1: We're looking at a moment that Well, if you believe the sources might be looked back on, as the day Europe stopped just talking about AI.
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  Speaker 0: And actually started building the industrial engine for it.
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  Speaker 0: Exactly.
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  Speaker 0: We're talking about the launch of the KI fabric, the AI factory, and the industrial AI cloud.
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  Speaker 0: Now, usually when I hear data center launch, I prepare myself for a nap.
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  Speaker 0: It's usually just a press release about square footage and server racks.
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  Speaker 0: But the reaction to this on LinkedIn has been...
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  Speaker 1: It
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  Speaker 0: feels heavier, more urgent.
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  Speaker 0: We've got mentions of sovereignty, control dynamics, and industrial revolution.
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  Speaker 0: So our mission today is to cut through the corporate speak.
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  Speaker 0: We need to figure out why this specific building in Munich is being called a geopolitical turning point.
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  Speaker 0: What's actually humming inside those server racks.
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  Speaker 0: And my absolute favorite part, which we will get to, how they are cooling this thing with.
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  Speaker 0: Surfing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The surfing connection is real.
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  Speaker 1: But you're right about the weight of this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't just a facility.
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  Speaker 1: It's a statement of intent.
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  Speaker 1: We are seeing a convergence of hardware, software, and political strategy all in one place.
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  Speaker 0: Okay, let's start with the big picture.
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  Speaker 0: The why.
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  Speaker 0: If you scroll through the commentary, the word that keeps popping up isn't speed or efficiency.
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  Speaker 0: It's sovereignty.
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  Speaker 0: Why is everyone so obsessed with that word right now?
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  Speaker 1: Because for the last decade, Europe has been in a bit of a bind.
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  Speaker 1: If you were a German car manufacturer or a pharmaceutical company and you want to top tier AI compute You largely had to rent it from
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  Speaker 0: the US or China
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  Speaker 1: exactly.
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  Speaker 1: you were sending your data your most valuable intellectual property Into jurisdictions where you had zero control, right?
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  Speaker 0: It's like renting a storage unit for your family heirlooms, but the landlord lives in a different country and has a key perfect
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  Speaker 1: analogy and The sources covering this launch are saying that era is ending.
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  Speaker 1: The narrative is shifting from, let's say, experimentation
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  Speaker 0: to
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  Speaker 1: industrial execution.
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  Speaker 0: The scale really backs that up.
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  Speaker 0: I was reading a post from Tim Hutkes, the CEO of Deutsche Telekom.
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  Speaker 0: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 0: He dropped a number that honestly made me do a double take.
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  Speaker 0: He said, this single AI factory boosts the computing power for industry and innovation by... Fifty percent.
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  Speaker 0: Fifty percent.
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  Speaker 0: That is massive.
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  Speaker 0: We aren't talking about a five percent marginal gain.
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  Speaker 0: That is a step change for an entire economy.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to look at what that power is for.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Ferry Albalasen, who posted quite a bit about this, kept hammering home this idea of practical applications.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: He's making a distinction here.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't some university lab for theoretical physics.
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  Speaker 1: It's an engine room.
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  Speaker 1: And he explicitly linked that power to data sovereignty.
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  Speaker 0: So practically speaking, what does that mean for a business?
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  Speaker 1: It means you can finally train your AI models on your own proprietary data, your trade secrets, without that data ever leaving the legal framework of Germany.
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  Speaker 1: It removes that fear that stops companies from adopting AI in the first place.
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  Speaker 0: That brings up an interesting phrase I saw from Dr.
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  Speaker 0: Jorick Storm.
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  Speaker 0: He called this launch a shift in Europe's control dynamics.
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  Speaker 0: That sounds incredibly dramatic, like something out of a spy novel.
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  Speaker 1: Is it really that deep?
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  Speaker 1: Well, in the world of ICT, yes, it is that deep.
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  Speaker 1: Think about it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: If your entire economy runs on AI and the AI runs on someone else's computers, you don't really control your economy anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Storm is pointing out that by building this capacity domestically, the power dynamic shifts back.
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  Speaker 0: And it's not just about Bavaria, is it?
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  Speaker 0: Even though, you know, Dr.
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  Speaker 0: Fabian Merring was cheering about strengthening Bavaria's innovation hub, which sure, he's a local politician.
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  Speaker 0: He's got to say that.
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  Speaker 0: Right.
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  Speaker 0: But the scope seems wider.
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  Speaker 1: Much wider.
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  Speaker 1: Rodrigo Diel pointed this out.
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  Speaker 1: He framed it as a European asset.
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  Speaker 1: The goal is to reduce dependency on non-European tech across the board.
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  Speaker 1: It's a driven facility, yes, but the mission is continental.
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  Speaker 0: to create a counterbalance.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So that Europe isn't just a client of the U.S.
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  Speaker 1: tech giants, but a real player.
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  Speaker 0: Okay, so we have the why sovereignty control, stopping the data brain drain.
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  Speaker 0: But I want to talk about the what?
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  Speaker 0: You can't build a sovereign cloud out of hopes and dreams.
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  Speaker 0: You need iron.
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  Speaker 0: You need silicon.
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  Speaker 0: What is actually inside this building?
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  Speaker 1: This is where it gets technically interesting, because usually companies piece this stuff together themselves.
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  Speaker 1: But Handelsblatt highlighted the partnership model here.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a very specific trio.
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  Speaker 1: The
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  Speaker 0: three musketeers of the AI cloud.
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  Speaker 0: Something
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 1: You have Deutsche Telecom providing the connectivity and the data center shell.
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  Speaker 1: You have NVIDIA providing the raw processing power.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have SAP providing the software layer.
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  Speaker 0: That SAP piece is interesting to me.
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  Speaker 0: Usually when we talk AI, we talk about the chips.
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  Speaker 0: Why is SAP in the mix?
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  Speaker 1: It's the target audience.
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  Speaker 1: If you were a German manufacturer, you probably run your entire business on SAP.
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  Speaker 1: True.
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  Speaker 1: By integrating SAP directly into the stack, they're making it plug and play for industry.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just raw compute.
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  Speaker 1: It's business ready compute.
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  Speaker 0: And speaking of raw compute, let's talk numbers.
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  Speaker 0: I saw a report from Phosace that put a hard number on the hardware.
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  Speaker 0: They mentioned ten thousand NVIDIA GPUs.
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  Speaker 1: Which is a staggering amount of heat and calculation.
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  Speaker 1: It
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  Speaker 0: really is.
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  Speaker 0: Stefan Grishner and Ui Franke both chimed in on this, reiterating that this effectively doubles the AI computing power available in Germany.
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  Speaker 1: National compute capacity is becoming the new GDP.
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  Speaker 0: That's a great way to put it.
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  Speaker 0: If you don't have the GPUs, you're a developing nation in the digital sense.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very apt analogy.
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  Speaker 1: In the twentieth century, you measured industrial power in steel production or electricity generation.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty six, you measure it in GPU clusters.
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  Speaker 1: If you don't have the compute, you can't compete.
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  Speaker 0: But there was one detail about the launch event itself that I thought was just cool.
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  Speaker 0: And it wasn't a server, it was a robot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I did see that.
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  Speaker 1: The Agile One.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 0: Tell me about this, because usually these launches are just, you know, men in suits cutting a ribbon with oversized scissors.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But here, they had the Agile One robot help initiate the factory.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great visual, but it's also symbolic.
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  Speaker 1: It bridges the gap.
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  Speaker 0: How so?
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  Speaker 0: Well,
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  Speaker 1: we spend so much time thinking of the cloud as this ethereal thing that lives in the sky.
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  Speaker 1: But this robot represents the physical application.
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  Speaker 1: the industrial and industrial AI.
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  Speaker 0: I see.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: The code running on those ten thousand GPUs isn't just writing poetry.
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  Speaker 1: It's driving robots like Agile One on a factory floor.
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  Speaker 1: It's welding, it's sorting, it's manufacturing.
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  Speaker 0: That connects to a detail polarized shared which I loved.
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  Speaker 0: They noted that this building It used to be a bank data center.
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  Speaker 0: Yes.
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  Speaker 0: Think about that transformation.
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  Speaker 0: It used to process wire transfers and bank balances.
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  Speaker 1: Transactional stuff.
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  Speaker 0: Right.
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  Speaker 0: Now it's stripped out and filled with GPUs to run probabilistic models and robots.
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  Speaker 1: It is the perfect metaphor for the economic shift.
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  Speaker 1: We are moving from the economy of transaction, moving money around to the economy of generation and automation.
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  Speaker 0: The physical building is the same, but the engine inside has completely changed.
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  Speaker 0: Exactly.
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  Speaker 0: Okay, but here's the problem with ten thousand GPUs.
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  Speaker 0: They get
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  Speaker 1: hot.
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  Speaker 0: Like really hot.
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  Speaker 0: Usually we have to have the awkward conversation about carbon footprints and energy drains.
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  Speaker 0: For sure.
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  Speaker 0: But the commentary on this launch was surprisingly green.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 1: And that is largely due to the location.
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  Speaker 1: We are in Toucher Park in Munich.
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  Speaker 0: Which is right in the city, basically.
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  Speaker 0: It
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  Speaker 1: is.
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  Speaker 1: Commerce Rial and Heinz, the real estate folks involved, were discussing this quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: They aren't building a gray concrete bunker in the middle of a cornfield.
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  Speaker 1: They are integrating this into an urban environment.
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  Speaker 0: And the power source.
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  Speaker 0: I saw PASM, Power and Air Solutions, made a big deal about renewable energy.
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  Speaker 1: And this goes back to sovereignty.
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  Speaker 1: PASM framed renewable energy not just as an environmental nice to have, but as a foundation for digital sovereignty.
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  Speaker 1: If your AI factory runs on imported gas, you are vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: If it runs on local renewables, you are secure.
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  Speaker 1: Green energy is becoming a national security asset.
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  Speaker 0: Okay, I get the renewable energy part, but we have to talk about the cooling, because Petrodemic shared a detail that is honestly the highlight of my week.
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  Speaker 1: The Icebox.
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  Speaker 0: The Icebox Dream.
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  Speaker 0: For our listeners who haven't been to Munich, can you explain what the Icebox is?
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  Speaker 0: Because I know it as the place where people put on wetsuits and surf a standing wave in the middle of winter.
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  Speaker 1: That is exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's a man-made river arm flowing through the English Garden.
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  Speaker 1: It's famous for surfing, yes, but it is also cold, fast-flowing water.
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  Speaker 0: And they're using that to cool the supercomputer.
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  Speaker 1: They are.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of running massive energy-hungry electric chillers, they're using the natural temperature of the stream to cool the facility.
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  Speaker 1: That
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  Speaker 0: is fantastic.
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  Speaker 0: My AI is trained on river-cooled GPUs.
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  Speaker 0: It sounds... artisanal.
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  Speaker 1: It does, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: But Kristoffer also pointed out that this is actually innovative real estate.
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  Speaker 1: It challenges the idea that data centers have to be these parasitic things that just drain the local grid.
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  Speaker 1: By using the stream... they're working with the local geography.
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  Speaker 0: It's smart engineering.
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  Speaker 0: And it gives the facility a bit of a soul, I think.
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  Speaker 0: It ties it to Munich in a very physical way.
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  Speaker 0: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 0: So we've got the sovereignty, the political win, we've got the hardware, the GPUs and the robot.
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  Speaker 0: We've got the sustainability, the surfing river.
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  Speaker 0: But now I want to ask the skeptical question.
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  Speaker 0: Who is this actually for?
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  Speaker 0: Is this just for the Mercedes-Benz's and Siemens of the world?
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  Speaker 0: Or does the little guy get a login.
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  Speaker 1: That is the multi-billion euro question.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And if you look at the LinkedIn chatter, especially from people like Marques Tenbeg and Thomas Franz Joseph-Lancas, they are adamant that this is for the middle stand.
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  Speaker 0: The middle stand.
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  Speaker 0: Yeah.
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  Speaker 0: The small and medium enterprises that basically run the German economy.
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  Speaker 0: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: The hidden champions.
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  Speaker 1: The companies that make the one specific screw for that one specific airplane engine.
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  Speaker 1: Historically, these companies have been frozen out of the AI revolution.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: Cost is part of it.
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  Speaker 1: But fear is the bigger factor.
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  Speaker 1: Like we said, these companies survive on their specialized IP.
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  Speaker 1: They are terrified of uploading their blueprints to a public cloud hosted in Nevada or Shanghai.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, right.
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  Speaker 1: Sylvia Luzel noted that this factory is designed to promote cooperation and innovation specifically for these medium-sized businesses.
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  Speaker 0: So by stamping made in Germany and hosted in Germany on the cloud, they are lowering the anxiety barrier.
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  Speaker 0: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It removes the excuse.
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  Speaker 1: Now, a mid-sized CEO can say, OK, the data stays in Munich.
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  Speaker 1: The legal framework is German.
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  Speaker 1: It opens the door.
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  Speaker 0: There was a term used by Stefan Thun that I think perfectly captures this.
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  Speaker 0: He called it the Germany Stack.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I caught that.
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  Speaker 1: The Germany Stack.
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  Speaker 0: It sounds a bit like a tech sandwich, but I assume he means something more strategic.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit more strategic.
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  Speaker 1: In tech, a SCAC is the combination of technologies you use to build an app.
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  Speaker 0: Database server code.
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  Speaker 0: Right.
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  Speaker 1: By calling it the Germany stack, he's implying a fully integrated vertical infrastructure platform application that is entirely sovereign.
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  Speaker 1: It's a way of branding safety.
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  Speaker 1: It tells the middle stand this entire thing is safe for you to use.
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  Speaker 0: But safety is only half the battle.
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  Speaker 0: You also need to know how to use it to buy.
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  Speaker 0: a Steinleger posted about telecom promoting AI workshops alongside the hardware.
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  Speaker 0: That feels significant.
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  Speaker 1: It is crucial.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just dump ten thousand GPUs on the market and hope for the best.
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  Speaker 1: Telecom seems to realize that they need to upskill the workforce to actually consume this compute power.
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  Speaker 0: It's an ecosystem play.
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  Speaker 1: Perfectly.
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  Speaker 1: Hardware, software, and the skills to use it.
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  Speaker 0: Let's zoom out for our final segment.
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  Speaker 0: We've looked at the building, the river, the customers, but what does this mean for the map of Europe?
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  Speaker 0: There's a real sense of urgency here.
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  Speaker 1: There is a palpable sense of anxiety driving this.
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  Speaker 1: Emma Buckland shared a statistic that really highlights it.
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  Speaker 1: She noted that telco offerings with sovereign elements have surged.
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  Speaker 0: Surged how much?
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  Speaker 1: They now represent twenty-four percent of new market entries.
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  Speaker 0: Wow.
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  Speaker 0: So nearly a quarter of all new activity is driven by this need for sovereignty.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: That's a massive shift.
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  Speaker 1: It tells you that geopolitics is now a product feature.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just about price and speed anymore.
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  Speaker 1: It's about is this safe from trade wars?
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  Speaker 0: Marianne High has put it pretty bluntly in her post.
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  Speaker 0: She basically said Europe must achieve digital sovereignty to ensure economic independence.
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  Speaker 1: It's an existential argument.
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  Speaker 1: She's saying that if we don't build this, we become a digital colony.
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  Speaker 1: We become dependent.
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  Speaker 1: And in a world where supply chains are weaponized, dependency is dangerous.
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  Speaker 0: And it doesn't look like they are stopping with just one factory.
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  Speaker 0: Marcus Fallenbuck mentioned something about AI gigafactory.
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  Speaker 1: That terminology is fascinating, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Gigafactory comes from Elon Musk in the battery world.
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  Speaker 0: Right.
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  Speaker 1: By co-opting that word, Kellacom and the EU are signaling that AI processing is the new battery power.
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  Speaker 1: It is the fundamental energy source for the next economy.
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  Speaker 1: And Fellenbuck noted they're competing for EU funding to build more of these.
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  Speaker 0: So Munich is just the prototype.
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  Speaker 1: The first of a fleet.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 1: Nicholas Schmidt wrapped it up well when he argued that tech sovereignty thrives through collaboration.
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  Speaker 1: He pointed to Tetra Park as the proof.
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  Speaker 1: It's a rebuttal to the cynics who said Europe couldn't get attacked together.
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  Speaker 0: It's the we can actually build this stuff here moment.
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  Speaker 1: It is and that psychological shift is just as important as the GPUs.
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  Speaker 0: So let's bring it home for the listener.
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  Speaker 0: If you are sitting in an office right now, maybe in product or strategy, what does this all mean for you?
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  Speaker 1: It means the menu has changed.
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  Speaker 1: If you are building digital products in Europe, you no longer have to default to the hyperscalers abroad.
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  Speaker 1: You have a sovereign option with industrial-grade power.
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  Speaker 1: So
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  Speaker 0: you have to ask yourself.
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  Speaker 1: You have to ask.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Is data sovereignty something my customers care about?
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  Speaker 1: Because if it is, you now have a way to deliver
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  Speaker 0: it.
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  Speaker 0: And if you are in the middle stand?
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  Speaker 0: If
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  Speaker 1: you're in the middle stand, it means the excuse is gone.
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  Speaker 1: The Germany stack is open for business.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to stop looking at AI as a sci-fi curiosity and start looking at it as a factory tool.
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  Speaker 0: It's like a CNC machine or a conveyor belt.
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  Speaker 0: And hey, if you can cool your data center with a surfing wave, you should absolutely do that.
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  Speaker 0: That's just good style.
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  Speaker 1: Always good style.
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  Speaker 0: It's been a fascinating deep dive.
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  Speaker 0: It's not every day you get to connect in video chips, surfing rivers and geopolitical strategy in one conversation.
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  Speaker 0: It
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  Speaker 1: certainly isn't.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and keep shaping the future.
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