Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Police Report That Exposed Him (Part 8-10) (5/24/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04In this episode, we're going to pick up where we
- 0:06left off with a Palm Beach police report into Jeffrey
- 0:09Epstein's bitch ass behavior. The first time around, We're going
- 0:14to pick back up with Joseph Riccari and his narrative.
- 0:19On October twelfth, two thousand and five, Detective Dawson and
- 0:22I traveled to the Orlando area and made telephone contact
- 0:25with Redacted and Redacted and agreed to meet with us.
- 0:29As we were in the Orlando area, Redacted provided directions
- 0:32to her apartment. Detective Dawson and I met with Redacted,
- 0:36who stated during the sworn tape statement that nothing happened
- 0:39between her and Epstein. Redacted appeared nervous during the interview.
- 0:43I assured her that I had spoken with other people
- 0:46who advised differently. Redacted stated she only went a couple
- 0:50of times and provided a massage to Epstein. She stated
- 0:54she was brought to at the Epstein house in March
- 0:56of two thousand and five. Redacted brought her to work.
- 1:00Redacted has no formal training in providing massages. Redacted stated
- 1:04she provided a massage fully clothed for two hundred dollars.
- 1:08As I sensed hesitancy in her answers, I asked redacted
- 1:12if she had been contacted by anyone from the house.
- 1:14Redacted stated she was interviewed already by an investigator for Epstein.
- 1:20He met with her on October eighth, two thousand and five,
- 1:23at a roadhouse in Orlando. He identified himself as Paul
- 1:27and inquired about the police investigation and left his telephone
- 1:30number redacted for additional contact. Redacted provided no additional information,
- 1:36as it appeared her responses were almost scripted. We left
- 1:39the area and returned to Palm Beach Police Department. Based
- 1:43on the information acquired during the interviews, a search warrant
- 1:46was prepared for entry at the Epstein home. On October eighteenth,
- 1:50two thousand and five, I met with Judge Laura Johnson,
- 1:53who reviewed the warrant request. She found that there was
- 1:56sufficient probable cause and signed the warrant request. On October twentieth,
- 2:01two thousand and five, at approximately nine thirty six am,
- 2:05members of the Palm Beach Police Department Investigation Unit executed
- 2:09the search warrant at three point fifty eight Lbrio Way
- 2:12in Palm Beach. Members of the investigations unit included Captain Gudger,
- 2:17Sergeant Frick, Detective Dix, Detective Dawson, Detective Melonchock, Detective Sandman,
- 2:23Detective Krawl, the crime scene unit, and myself. As we
- 2:27entered onto the property, we encountered the house manager, Janoos Banisik,
- 2:31who was in the guest portion of the house. The
- 2:34guest house section had opened doors and no forced entry
- 2:37was made. I made contact with Banisik, date of birth redacted,
- 2:41Florida driver's license were adapted and informed them that the
- 2:44search warrant for the premises. The members of the police
- 2:47department entered the residence and announced we had a search warrant.
- 2:52A safety search was done and members exited the home.
- 2:56I read the search warrant to Banisek as manager Parkinson
- 2:59vide deotape the search warrant execution. Several interior decorators were
- 3:04located on the property. I spoke with Mark Zeph of redacted,
- 3:08New York. Mister Zeph stated he is a designer for
- 3:11mister Epstein's homes. He advised he was contacted in March
- 3:14of two thousand and five to do a complete overhaul
- 3:17of the house. He advised he was on the phone
- 3:20with mister Epstein when officers announced the search warrant. Mister
- 3:23Epstein was then made aware of the search warrant. Mister
- 3:26Zeph advised his contact with Epstein his strictly business and
- 3:30he has never witnessed Epstein with any girls except for
- 3:33his assistant Sarah or Nadia. I then interviewed Daniel Estis
- 3:38of redacted in New York. Mister Estis stated he has
- 3:41worked for Zeph for seven years. He advised he personally
- 3:44worked on the New York and pom Beach home for
- 3:47mister Epstein. He has previously met with Sarah and Adriana,
- 3:51Epstein's assistants in New York and in Florida. ESTs stated
- 3:54they travel with Epstein everywhere he goes. I interviewed Zara
- 3:59Bailey of Verdak, New Jersey. Bailey stated she just arrived
- 4:03from Scotland and has worked with Zeph for only one month.
- 4:06She stated she has never met Epstein and has not
- 4:09seen him. The interview was then concluded. I then spoke
- 4:13with Douglas Shotel redacted, New York City. Shotel stated that
- 4:17he had been Epstein's architect for seven years. He stated
- 4:20further that he deals with Epstein's assistants and speaks with
- 4:23Epstein on the phone. Schotel stated that he mainly speaks
- 4:27with Sarah Kellen, Epstein's main assistant who travels with Epstein.
- 4:32Schotel stated he only has contact with Epstein when his
- 4:35services are needed. At approximately ten thirty am, I was
- 4:39informed that the videotaping was concluded. I entered the residence
- 4:43and located to covert hidden cameras. The first camera was
- 4:47a covert wall clock in the garage area. I traced
- 4:50the wire behind the clock and removed the RCAA wire
- 4:53and unplugged the camera. The other covert camera was located
- 4:57within the desk clock beside Epstein's desk. I traced the
- 5:00wire behind the clock and I unplugged the RCA wire.
- 5:04I could not locate another camera. I then began with
- 5:07the search of the residence for the specified evidence. My
- 5:10search consisted of the second floor. Detective Kraal and I
- 5:14began in the master bedroom area, where several items were located.
- 5:18They were marked to be retrieved by the evidence custodian
- 5:22in the mastered desk with Epstein's notepads. Mark Jeffrey Epstein.
- 5:25We located a high school transcript from Redacted's high school
- 5:28four redacted. Also in the room was the dresser, where
- 5:33we located a bottle of peach flavored Joy jelly sexual lubricant. Additionally,
- 5:38there were several photographs of young naked teenage girls within
- 5:42the closet, which was consistent with what the witness had said.
- 5:46The massage table was also located within the master bedroom.
- 5:50Videotapes were located beside the television, which were also collected.
- 5:54An itemized list of the property and locations was prepared
- 5:58on the property receipts. At approximately two fifty five PM,
- 6:02the house was secured. The exit of the residence was videotaped.
- 6:06Upon our exit of the property, I encountered attorney Guy Fronstein,
- 6:10who advised he was representing mister Epstein. He provided a
- 6:14business card and provided his assistance with the investigation. Due
- 6:18to Hurricane Wilma, which struck South Florida, causing massive power outages,
- 6:23the courthouse was closed due to the lack of power.
- 6:26I was previously told that the Chief Judge had extended
- 6:29the filing deadlines due to the hurricane and the courtroom
- 6:32being closed. On October twenty seventh and twenty eight, two
- 6:36thousand and five, the courthouse was closed and I could
- 6:38not file the search warrant and inventory at the clerk's office.
- 6:42On October thirty first, two thousand and five, I responded
- 6:45to the courthouse and filed the paperwork along with an
- 6:48order to seal signed by Judge Johnson to deny any
- 6:52releases of any paperwork on this case. On October twentieth,
- 6:56two thousand and five, at approximately eight thirty am thirst
- 7:00day morning, I was advised by Captain Gudger that a
- 7:02search warrant would be executed and that I was to
- 7:05assemble the crime scene investigative team and stand by the
- 7:09south side of the building ready to go. And this
- 7:12narrative now, by the way, is by Gregory Parkinson. I
- 7:16designated Evidence Specialist Annett Badger to handle the inventory return,
- 7:21the documentation of the property receipts, and the collection and
- 7:24bagging of the evidence at the scene. I further instructed
- 7:27CSI kim Pavlick ID number eighty eight oh seven to
- 7:31accompany us and perform the role of photographing the scene
- 7:35and the items that may be taken into custody by
- 7:38the affient Detective Joseph Roccari ID seven nine one five.
- 7:43My responsibility was to go through from the reading of
- 7:46the warrant to the final exit from the residence and
- 7:49perform a video recording of the reading of the warrant,
- 7:52the initial walkthrough of the residence showing the current condition,
- 7:56and then finally you'll walk through of the residence at
- 7:58the time of the police d We started out towards
- 8:02the residence, which was located at three fifty eight Albrio,
- 8:05and arrived at approximately nine thirty three am. The search
- 8:09was conducted, items were collected by evidence specialist Badger, photographed
- 8:14by CSI Pablic and then videotaped by myself. The search
- 8:19was concluded at approximately three h five pm, whereupon Detective
- 8:23Riccary and I were the last two officers in the house.
- 8:26Upon securing the residence, we met with the gentleman who
- 8:30identifies himself to Detective Raccary as the lawyer for the defendant,
- 8:34and he was informed that the residence was secured and
- 8:37that copies of the inventory returned had been left on
- 8:40the first floor table of the personal assistance office. Detective
- 8:44Raccary and I returned to Police headquarters and secured for
- 8:48the day. The next section is the narrative of Michael Dawson.
- 8:52On October twentieth, two thousand and five, I assisted the
- 8:55Detective Raccary in the execution of a search warrant at
- 8:59three fifty eight l Brio Way. Upon the announcement of
- 9:02the search warrant, immediate contact was made with the three
- 9:05white males who came out of the house or surrounding structures.
- 9:09Those males were identified as Janice Banasik, Daniel Estes, and
- 9:13Mark zeph. As other members of the police department cleared
- 9:17the home, I kept watch over these three males. Once
- 9:20the house was cleared, those males were turned over to
- 9:23Detective Raccari. Detective Dix and I were assigned to assist
- 9:27in the search of the main house, the cabana, and
- 9:30the servants quarters. We started in the garage. All areas
- 9:34of the garage were searched to include four vehicles. These
- 9:37vehicles were three black Mercedes Benz cars registered to Jeffrey Epstein.
- 9:41The fourth vehicle was a Harley Davidson motorcycle green in color,
- 9:45registered to Jeffrey Epstein. Nothing was recovered from the garage.
- 9:50A towel, closet and pantry located off the kitchen was
- 9:53searched and yielded negative results. The kitchen was searched and
- 9:56taken into evidence was a phone message book that was
- 10:00located near a house phone. North of the kitchen was
- 10:03an office room which contained a computer. The room had
- 10:06a closet that contained a locked gunlocker. The combination was
- 10:09entered by Banasik in the presence of Sergeant Frick and
- 10:12the safe was opened. Items were taken from the room.
- 10:15See the completed property receipt for a detailed list. A
- 10:19green bathroom located on the first floor was searched and
- 10:22nothing was taken. A closet located just west of the
- 10:26green bathroom was searched. Two massage tables were located in
- 10:30the closet, along with a photo of a nude female
- 10:33from the waist up. See the property receipt for details.
- 10:37I searched two bedrooms and their adjoining bathrooms, which were
- 10:40located on the second floor of the east side of
- 10:42the house. In the northeast bedroom closet, I found adult
- 10:46sex toys called twin Torpedoes, soap made in the shape
- 10:49of a penis, and a vagina were also found in
- 10:51these upstairs bedrooms. See the property receipt for details. I
- 10:56searched the pool cabana located on the south side of
- 10:58the pool. Photos were taken from the wall. See the
- 11:01property receipt for details. I assisted in the search of
- 11:04Bani six living quarters. Numerous CDs along with the message
- 11:09book was seized. See the property receipt for details. All right, folks,
- 11:13we're gonna wrap up right here, and in the next
- 11:15episode we're gonna pick up where we left off. All
- 11:18the information that goes with this episode can be found
- 11:22in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back
- 11:26to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right
- 11:29back in to the Palm Beach police report into Jeffrey Epstein,
- 11:34and to do that once again, we're picking up with
- 11:36the narrative of Detective Raccari. On November one, two thousand
- 11:41and five, I was contacted by Attorney Gus Fronstein, who
- 11:44advised he was willing to assist with the investigation. Attorney
- 11:48Fronstein advised he would try to have his client, Jeffrey
- 11:51Epstein available to be interviewed. I explained I would be
- 11:55interested in conducting an interview with this client as well
- 11:58as other employees that are employees within the house. Attorney
- 12:02Fronstein advised he would return my call once he received
- 12:05confirmation on the interviews. On November sixth, two thousand and five,
- 12:09I attempted to contact with Redacted at her residence. I
- 12:14left a business card for her to return my call.
- 12:16Upon returning to the police department, I had received a
- 12:19telephone call from redacted. I returned to her call at
- 12:22redacted and spoke with Redacted. She made arrangements to respond
- 12:26to the station to provide an interview. At approximately three
- 12:30thirty pm, she arrived at the Palm Beach Police station
- 12:33with her boyfriend. Her boyfriend was allowed to sit in
- 12:36the lobby area while Misredacted was interviewed. It took Misredacted
- 12:42to the Detective Bureau interview room. I closed the door
- 12:45for privacy and explained to her that I appreciated her
- 12:49coming to the police station for the interview. During the
- 12:52sworn tape statement, she advised she was at Jeffrey Epstein's
- 12:55house one time. Approximately two months ago, she was approached
- 12:59by a girl who was dating her roommate to make
- 13:02some quick money Redacted advised that she was in need
- 13:06to make some quick cash to make the rent that month,
- 13:09and she agreed to go to the house. She had
- 13:11been told by Redacted that the massage would have to
- 13:15be done in her underwear, she advised. Redacted drove with
- 13:19her and brought her into the house. They walked into
- 13:22the kitchen area and took the stairs upstairs. Redacted further
- 13:25stated she was brought into a master bedroom area. She
- 13:29advised She recalled seeing portraits of naked women throughout the room.
- 13:33A massage table was already out near the sauna shower
- 13:36area in the master bedroom. Epstein entered the room wearing
- 13:40only a towel and introduced himself as Jeff Redacted advice,
- 13:45she recalled. She and Redacted removed their clothes down to
- 13:49their panties. Epstein lay on his stomach area and they
- 13:52provided a massage on his legs and feet area. I
- 13:57asked Redacted if she had any formal massage training, and
- 14:00she replied no. Redacted advice. She was topless and the
- 14:04panties she wore were the boy shorts laced pannies. She
- 14:08and Redacted continued the massage until the last ten minutes
- 14:11of the massage. Ebstein toil Redacted to leave the room
- 14:15so that he could finish the massage. Redacted god dressed
- 14:18and Epstein turned over onto his back. Epstein then removed
- 14:21the towel which had been around his waist. Epstein laid
- 14:24their naked and requested that Redacted rubbed his chest area.
- 14:28Redacted stated as she did this, Epstein began masturbating. As
- 14:32she rubbed his chest. Redacted stated he pulled down her
- 14:36boy short panies and he produced a large, white vibrator
- 14:39with a large head. She stated it was within a
- 14:42drawer in his master bathroom. He rubbed the vibrator on
- 14:46her vagina area. Redacted advised he never penetrated her vagina
- 14:50with the vibrator. He continued to rub her vagina with
- 14:54the vibrator as he continued to masturbate. Redacted stated she
- 14:58was very uncomfortable during the incident, but knew it was
- 15:01almost over. Epstein climaxed and started to remove himself from
- 15:05the table. He wiped himself with a towel he had
- 15:08on previously and went into the shower area. Redacted god
- 15:12dressed and met with redacted in the kitchen area. Epstein
- 15:16came into the kitchen and provided Redacted two hundred dollars
- 15:19for bringing redacted and paid two hundred dollars to redact
- 15:22it for providing the massage. Redacted was told to leave
- 15:26her telephone number with Sarah, his assistant for future contact.
- 15:30Redacted provided her cellular telephone number for future contact. Redacted
- 15:35was asked if she was recently contacted about this investigation
- 15:38by anyone from Epstein's organization. She replied she was called,
- 15:43but it was for work. She stated she was called
- 15:46by Sarah for her to return to work for Epstein.
- 15:50Redacted stated work is the term used by Sarah to
- 15:53provide the massage in underwear. Redacted advice, she declined as
- 15:57she was not comfortable in providing that type of work.
- 16:00The interview was concluded and the videotape was placed into evidence.
- 16:04The investigation continues. The next narrative is from Joseph Riccari
- 16:09as well. On November seventh, two thousand and five, I
- 16:12may telephone contact with Redacted, who advised she would be
- 16:15able to meet with me at her home. Detective Sandman
- 16:18and I traveled to her home in Royal Palm Beach
- 16:21and made contact with Redacted during a sworn tape statement.
- 16:25Redacted stated she met Jeffrey Epstein through Hailey Robson. Robson
- 16:29would approach females who wished to work for him. Redacted
- 16:32stated she was asked to work for him, but declined.
- 16:36Redacted explained that work means to give massages. She was
- 16:40asked about any formal training in providing massages, to which
- 16:44she said no. Redacted said she had accompanied Robson and
- 16:48other females who were taken to Epstein's house to provide massages.
- 16:52Redacted further stated she had been to the house approximately
- 16:56four or five times in the past year. She accompanied
- 16:59Robson with redacted and redacted, the fourteen year old victim
- 17:03and redacted. Each time the girls were taken over, they
- 17:06were previously told they would have to provide a massage,
- 17:09possibly naked. It was also told that should Epstein require
- 17:13them to do anything extra and they were not comfortable,
- 17:17just to tell him and he would stop. Redacted stated
- 17:20Robson received two hundred dollars for each girl she brought
- 17:23over to massage Jeffrey Epstein. When I asked which girl
- 17:27appeared to be the youngest, she replied the victim. As
- 17:30she stated she was fifteen years old at the most.
- 17:33She looked really young. Redacted further stated each time she
- 17:36went to the house, she sat in the kitchen and
- 17:39walked with Robson until the massage was over. She further
- 17:42stated that the cook would make lunch or a snack
- 17:45for them as they waited. I asked her if there
- 17:48was anything that caught her attention within the home. Redacted
- 17:51stated that there were a lot of naked girls and
- 17:53photographs throughout the house. The interview was concluded and the
- 17:57tape was turned into evidence. The investigation continues and moving
- 18:01into the next narrative, it is still Joseph Roccari. Detective
- 18:06Dawson and I attempted contact with Redacted in Royal Palm Beach.
- 18:10I left my business card at her front door. Misredacted
- 18:13returned my phone call and arranged a meeting with me
- 18:16at the Palm Beach Police Department for November eighth, two
- 18:18thousand and five. At approximately two pm, Redacted arrived at
- 18:22the Palm Beach Police Department. She was brought into the
- 18:25interview room and the door was closed for privacy. She
- 18:29was told that I appreciate her coming to the police
- 18:31station for questioning regarding an ongoing investigation. She was told
- 18:36that I was investigating her crime involving Jeffrey Epstein and
- 18:39knew based on the investigation that she had encounters with
- 18:43him in the past. During a sworn tape statement, Redacted
- 18:46stated that she had met Epstein approximately two years ago.
- 18:50She was first introduced to Epstein by Hayley Robson. Robson
- 18:53approached her about working for Epstein, providing a massage to
- 18:57him four two hundred dollars a day. The arrange ingements
- 19:00were made. As Robson could not take her the day
- 19:03the arrangements were made, Redacted took redacted. Redacted also attended
- 19:07redacted high school and was familiar with Epstein. Redacted or recalled.
- 19:12She was brought to an area and entered through the
- 19:15back kitchen door. She had met with an assistant, Sarah
- 19:18and another assistant, Adriana. Sarah brought her upstairs as she
- 19:22observed several photographs of naked females throughout the house. Redacted stated.
- 19:26Epstein came in the room wearing only a towel and
- 19:30laid on the table. Redacted stated he picked out the
- 19:34oils he wanted her to use and requested she remove
- 19:36her clothing provide the massage. Redacted stated that on the
- 19:41first massage she provided, she did not remove her clothing.
- 19:45Redacted stated she had returned several times after that. Each
- 19:49time she returned, more things happened. Redacted stated that the
- 19:53same thing would happen. Epstein would walk into the master
- 19:56bedroom bathroom Mario wearing only a towel. He would mask
- 20:00as she provided a massage. Redacted stated she was unsure
- 20:04if he climaxed as he masturbated under the towel. Additionally,
- 20:07she never looked below his waist. She claimed that Epstein
- 20:11would convince her to remove her clothes. She eventually removed
- 20:15her clothes and stayed in her thong pannies. On occasion,
- 20:18Epstein would use a massage or vibrator, which she described
- 20:22as white in color with a large head on her
- 20:24Every time she provided a massage, he would masturbate. Redacted
- 20:28added she has no formal training in providing a massage.
- 20:32Redacted stated she brought two females during her visits to
- 20:35provide massages. Redacted stated she brought a girl named redacted
- 20:40and redacted from redacted high school. Redacted stated she received
- 20:44two hundred dollars for each girl she brought. Additionally, Redacted
- 20:47was given two hundred dollars for taking her in the
- 20:50very beginning. The interview was concluded and the tape was
- 20:53placed into evidence. The investigation continues. The next section is
- 20:59the narrative. Detective Racarrie continued on November eighth, two thousand
- 21:03and five, I may telephone contact with Redacted, who was
- 21:07born in nineteen eighty seven, at her residence. Redacted or
- 21:10responded to the police station for an interview reference an
- 21:14ongoing investigation. At approximately two thirty pm, she arrived at
- 21:18the Palm Beach Police Station and was brought into the
- 21:21interview room for an interview. The door was closed for privacy,
- 21:24and she was told that I appreciated her cooperation in
- 21:28the case. During a sworn tape statement, Redacted stated that
- 21:32she had met Jeffrey Epstein approximately one year ago. She
- 21:35was approached by a subject known to her as redacted.
- 21:38Redacted had asked her if she had wanted to make
- 21:41money providing massages to Epstein. Redacted had her that several
- 21:45girls from redacted High School were doing this and making money.
- 21:49She agreed and was taken to the house by redacted
- 21:52Redacted had introduced her to Sarah and Epstein and brought
- 21:55her upstairs to the master bedroom and master bathroom, where
- 21:59a massage table was prepared and the proper royals were
- 22:02taken out. Redacted left the room and waited downstairs for redacted.
- 22:07Redacted stated Epstein entered the room wearing only a towel,
- 22:10and she provided a massage wearing only her thong panties.
- 22:14Redacted advised Epstein had masturbated every time she provided a massage.
- 22:18She stated Epstein continued to masturbate until he climaxed. Once
- 22:23that occurred, the massage was over. She felt the whole
- 22:26situation was weird, but she advised she was paid two
- 22:29hundred dollars for providing the massage. She also stated Redacted
- 22:33received two hundred for bringing redacted to Epstein. Redacted stated
- 22:38she had gone a total of fifteen times to his
- 22:40residence to provide a massage, and things that escalated from
- 22:44just providing a massage. Epstein began touching her on her
- 22:48buttocks and grabbed her closer to him as he masturbated.
- 22:52Epstein also grabbed her breast and fondled her breast with
- 22:55his hands as she provided the massage. Redacted stated on
- 22:59one account, he offered extra monies to have vaginal intercourse.
- 23:03She stated this all occurred on the massage table. Redacted
- 23:07stated that Epstein penetrated her vagina with his penis and
- 23:10began having intercourse with her until he reached the point
- 23:13of climax. Epstein removed his penis from her vagina and
- 23:17climaxed onto the massage table. Redacted received three hundred and
- 23:21fifty dollars for her massage. I asked her if she
- 23:23had any formal training in providing massages, and she stated
- 23:27she did not. Redacted continued to state on one other occasion,
- 23:33Epstein introduced his assistant Nadia into the massage. Nadia was
- 23:37brought into the room with Redacted to provide a massage.
- 23:40Epstein had them kiss and fondle each other around the
- 23:44breasts and buttocks, and they provided a massage to Epstein.
- 23:47Epstein watched and masturbated. As this occurred on other occasions,
- 23:52Epstein introduced the large white vibrator massage. During the massage,
- 23:56Epstein stroked the vibrator massager on Redacted's vagina as she
- 24:01provided the massage. Redacted stated the last time she spoke
- 24:05with anyone at the house was with Sarah. During the
- 24:08weekend of October second or third, two thousand and five,
- 24:11Redacted stated she had brought two people to the Epstein house.
- 24:15She provided the names of redacted and redacted unknown last name.
- 24:19It should be noted that redacted had previously identified as
- 24:23redacted and had previously interviewed. The interview was concluded and
- 24:27the video was placed into evidence via the locker system.
- 24:32All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here,
- 24:34and in the next episode, we're going to pick up
- 24:36where we left off. All of the information that goes
- 24:39with this episode can be found in the description box.
- 24:43What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 24:47In this episode, we're picking back up where we left
- 24:49off with the Palm Beach police report into Jeffrey Epstein's
- 24:54alleged behavior. On November ninth, two thousand and five, Sergeant
- 24:58Frick and I traveled to redacted point in Beach, Florida,
- 25:01in hopes to interview Juana Lessi, the former houseman of
- 25:04Epstein's home. As no one was home, a business card
- 25:08was left for him to return my call. We then
- 25:10traveled to redacted in Miami and hopes to interview Alfredo Rodriguez,
- 25:15a former houseman of Epstein. We did not locate them
- 25:18at home. I left a business card for him to
- 25:20return my call. We then traveled to Lynn University and
- 25:24met with the Dean of students, mister Turner. We requested
- 25:27to speak with Redacted. Redacted was reinterviewed as she still
- 25:31was in possession of the rental car that Epstein had
- 25:34acquired for. Redacted stated that Sarah, Epstein's assistant had called
- 25:38her on her cellular telephone and informed her that rental
- 25:42was extended for her. Sarah stated she had paid an
- 25:45additional six hundred and twenty five dollars for her to
- 25:47keep the rental an extra month. Redacted was asked if
- 25:50she had any additional contact with either Epstein or anyone
- 25:54from his organization. Redacted stated that she did not, other
- 25:58than the telephone call informed that she could keep the
- 26:01car for an extra month. Redacted did not provide any
- 26:05additional information. On November tenth, two thousand and five, at
- 26:08approximately nine to forty seven am, Alfredo Rodriguez had telephoned
- 26:13referenced my business card found on his door. Rodriguez stated
- 26:17that he had worked for Epstein for approximately six months
- 26:20after the previous houseman left. Rodriguez stated that it was
- 26:24his responsibility to keep the identity of the masseuse private.
- 26:28Mister Epstein had a massage in the morning and one
- 26:30in the afternoon. Mister Rodriguez stated he would rather speak
- 26:34about this in private. He advised he would come to
- 26:37the police station to speak with me. Rodriguez stated he
- 26:40would return my call on Monday, November fourteenth, two thousand
- 26:44and five. I then made telephone contact with Juan Alessi.
- 26:48He advised he found my card on his door and
- 26:51wanted to know what I needed to speak with him about.
- 26:53I explained to Alessi that I was conducting an investigation
- 26:57on his former employer, mister Epstein. Alessi stated that he
- 27:01would return my call shortly as he was in the
- 27:03middle of a project at his home. I received a
- 27:06telephone call from Attorney Donald Morrell from redacted. Morrell stated
- 27:11he represented mister Alessi and did not want me speaking
- 27:14with his client. I then made telephone contact with the
- 27:17State Attorney's office and confirm that subpoenas would be issued
- 27:20to the former employees to assist in the investigation. I
- 27:25then made telephone contact with attorney Guy Fronstein, attorney for
- 27:29mister Epstein. I explained to mister Fronstein that I would
- 27:33like to speak with mister Epstein. He stated, mister Epstein
- 27:36is not in the residence in Florida at this time
- 27:39and would check with them to ascertain if he could
- 27:42come and be here by Wednesday, November sixteenth, two thousand
- 27:46and five for an interview. Mister Fronstein stated he would
- 27:49return my call should mister Epstein decide to come in
- 27:52to the police station for an interview. The investigation continues.
- 27:57The narrative continues now with Joseph Riccari. On November fourteenth,
- 28:02two thousand and five, Detective Sandman and I traveled too
- 28:05Redacted in Loxahachie, Florida, and spoke with redacted. She was
- 28:10told of the ongoing investigation involving Epstein. Redacted advised she
- 28:14had gone to the house on several occasions. During a
- 28:17sworn tape statement, she advised she started going to the
- 28:20house approximately one year ago and was brought by redacted.
- 28:25Redacted stated that Redacted brought her into the home and
- 28:28she was introduced to a girl named Sarah once again.
- 28:31Sarah kelln Vickers Sarah. Once she met her, Sarah brought
- 28:35her upstairs into a master bathroom. Redacted stated she met
- 28:40Jeffrey in the bathroom. He lay on the table and
- 28:43picked up the massage oils. She provided the massage as
- 28:46he lay naked on the massage bed. She stated she
- 28:49rubbed his calves and back area. Upon the end of
- 28:52the massage, Epstein removed himself from the massage table and
- 28:56paid her three hundred dollars for the massage. Redacted stated
- 29:00she had only been at the house approximately five or
- 29:02six times. Redacted said each time she went to the house,
- 29:07she was notified by Sarah Epstein's assistant that Epstein was
- 29:10in town and would like to work with her. Redacted
- 29:13stated she returned to the house and was again led
- 29:16upstairs by Sarah. She provided the massage clothed. Redacted advised
- 29:22it wasn't really weird until later on. Redacted was asked
- 29:26if she ever removed her clothing to provide a massage.
- 29:29Redacted stated it was not until the third time that
- 29:32she went that she removed her clothing. Redacted stated that
- 29:36she was notified by Sarah that Epstein wanted her to
- 29:39come to work. She arrived at the house and was
- 29:42led upstairs by Sarah. She started providing the massage when
- 29:45Epstein asked her to remove her clothing. Redacted removed her pants, shirt,
- 29:50and bra. She stayed in her thong panties and continued
- 29:53rubbing Epstein. Epstein turned onto his back and she rubbed
- 29:57his chest area. Redacted stated she knew he was masturbating
- 30:01himself as she was providing the massage. Redacted stated she
- 30:05believed he climaxed based on his breathing. She did not
- 30:09want to view either the climax or the fact that
- 30:12he was masturbating. Redacted stated once the breathing relaxed, he
- 30:17got up and told her to get dressed. She was
- 30:19paid three hundred dollars for services. Redacted stated on the
- 30:23last time that she went to provide a massage, she
- 30:26was notified by Sarah to come to the house and work.
- 30:29Redacted stated she was now dating her current boyfriend and
- 30:33did not feel comfortable going. She recalled it was approximately
- 30:37January two thousand and five. She said she went already
- 30:41thinking that this would be the last time. She went
- 30:44upstairs and went into the master bedroom. She met with Epstein,
- 30:48who was wearing only a towel. As he entered the
- 30:50room to lie on the table. Redacted stated Epstein caught
- 30:53her looking at the clock on several occasions. Epstein asked
- 30:57her if she was in a hurry. Redacted stated her
- 31:00boyfriend was in the car waiting for Redacted further stated
- 31:03that Epstein got upset as she wasn't enjoying the massage.
- 31:07She told them that she didn't want to continue and
- 31:09she would not be back. Epstein told her to leave
- 31:12as she was ruining his massage. I asked her if
- 31:15she had any contact with Epstein's organization. She stated she
- 31:19received two hundred dollars from Western Union in Palm Beach
- 31:22as a Christmas gift. Redacted advice she had no formal
- 31:26training in providing any massages. Redacted also stated she was
- 31:30sixteen years old when she first went to Epstein's house
- 31:34at approximately four to twenty two pm. I may telephone
- 31:37contact with redacted at redacted. She agreed to meet with
- 31:40me at a public place. I suggested she come to
- 31:43the police station for an interview. Redacted did not want
- 31:46to meet at the police station. I recommended we meet
- 31:49at the Palm Beach Gardens Mall in the food court area.
- 31:52She agreed and an appointment was made for November fifteenth,
- 31:56two thousand and five, at five pm at the food court.
- 32:00The investigation continues. The next narrative we have now is
- 32:03from Jennifer Sandman. On ten twenty, two thousand and five,
- 32:08I assisted executing a search warrant at three point fifty
- 32:11eight Albrio Way in the Town Upon Beach, Florida, under
- 32:15the direction of affient Detective Joseph Riccari. Detective Melonchoc and
- 32:21I searched the pantry room that is west next to
- 32:25the kitchen. This room had all white cabinets with a
- 32:27dark gray and black countertop. We did not find anything
- 32:31in this room. We searched the Yellow and Blue room
- 32:34in the west next to the pantry room. This room
- 32:37had a very large statue of a man with a bow.
- 32:40Taken into evidence from this room were nine photographs in
- 32:43frames of various women. We searched the main entrance foyer
- 32:47that is to the north of the Yellow and Blue room.
- 32:50This room contained two bamboo chairs and ottomans with cushions.
- 32:54It also contained a round table with numerous books. We
- 32:57searched another blue room that is west of the This
- 33:01room had a stereo system and bookshelves that were from
- 33:04the floor to the ceiling. Taken into evidence from this
- 33:07room were eight photographs and frames of various women and
- 33:10door Epstein, the owner of the residence. We searched the
- 33:14room to the west of the blue room that has
- 33:17sliding glass doors that led out to the pool. In
- 33:20this room, in the dresser were two DVDs and two
- 33:23VCR tapes. These items were taken into evidence. We searched
- 33:27to two thousand and four black Chevy Suburban bearing Florida
- 33:31tag X ninety nine EGL registered to Jeffrey Epstein, which
- 33:36was located on the east side of the driveway facing south.
- 33:39I found a thrifty rental agreement between the passenger seat
- 33:43and the middle console. The name on the rental agreement
- 33:46was Johanna Schoberg from redacted. The phone number on the
- 33:50agreement was redacted. The vehicle rented was white redacted. The
- 33:55vehicle was rented on nine to twenty five oh five
- 33:58at seventeen fifty nine hours and was returned on nine
- 34:02twenty six oh five at sixteen fifty two hours. The
- 34:05last four numbers of the credit card used are redacted.
- 34:09Detective Melonchock found a piece of paper in the middle
- 34:12console that said I use the cash in here to
- 34:14fill up the tank and was signed by Johanna. I
- 34:18searched the two thousand and five black Cadillac Escalade SUV
- 34:22bearing Florida tag Q twenty nine nine GT registered to
- 34:27Jeffrey Epstein, which was located on the west side of
- 34:31the driveway facing south. I did not find anything in
- 34:34this vehicle. All the items that were taken into evidence
- 34:37were photographed in the place they were located and then
- 34:40turned over to the crime scene. Moving on to the
- 34:43next part, we're going back to the narrative of Joseph Riccari.
- 34:47On November fifteenth, two thousand and five, Detective Sandman and
- 34:51I traveled to redacted in Royal Palm Beach. We met
- 34:54with redacted, a seventeen year old juvenile who was not
- 34:57in school this day due to a cold from which
- 35:00she was suffering. Redacted was told that I needed to
- 35:03speak with her in reference to an ongoing investigation involving
- 35:07a subject she would know as Jeffrey Epstein. Prior to
- 35:11speaking with her, I explained that because of the fact
- 35:14that she was a minor, I needed to speak with
- 35:16her parents. Prior to speaking with her, she telephoned her father,
- 35:20mister Redacted, on his cell phone and explained to him
- 35:22that Detective Sandman and I were there to speak with her.
- 35:26I spoke with mister adacted on the telephone and informed
- 35:29him that I needed to speak with his daughter in
- 35:33reference to an ongoing investigation. Mister addacted advised he had
- 35:37no problem with us speaking with his daughter. During a
- 35:40sworn tape statement, Redacted stated that she met Jeffrey Epstein
- 35:44over a year ago. She was sixteen years of age
- 35:47and was approached by Redacted, who informed her that she
- 35:50could make money providing a massage to Epstein for two
- 35:53hundred dollars. Redacted had informed her that she would have
- 35:57to provide this massage topless. Redacted the arrangements with Epstein
- 36:01and his assistance and took Redacted to the house. Redacted
- 36:05stated that Redacted and she entered through a glass door
- 36:09that led into a kitchen. Redacted took her upstairs to
- 36:13a master bedroom and master bathroom. She recalled the bathroom
- 36:16had a large pink couch, sauna, and matching shower Epstein
- 36:20entered into the room wearing only a towel. Redacted and
- 36:24Redacted removed their clothing, remaining only in their thong underwear.
- 36:28She further stated that Epstein lay on his chest on
- 36:31the table. Epstein selected which oils to use for the massage.
- 36:36Both redacted and redacted provided the massage on his legs, back,
- 36:39and feet. Forty minutes into the massage, Epstein turned over
- 36:43onto his back and requested redacted weight downstairs in the
- 36:47kitchen area four Redacted. Epstein instructed redacted to finish the massage.
- 36:52As Redacted got dressed, Redacted started rubbing his chest. Redacted
- 36:57left the room, and Epstein began masturbdding himself. Redacted rubbed
- 37:01Epstein's chest. Redacted stated he continued masturbating until he climaxed
- 37:06on the towel he was wearing. When asked if she
- 37:08had removed the towel, she stated he turned the towel
- 37:11around so that the opening would allow him to expose himself.
- 37:15After he cleaned himself off with the towel, he instructed
- 37:18or redacted that the massage was done and to get
- 37:21dressed and met with him downstairs. Redacted got dressed and
- 37:25met with Epstein in the kitchen area. She was paid
- 37:28two hundred dollars for providing the massage. Redacted stated that
- 37:32she was aware that Redacted also received money for the
- 37:35same thing. The second time she went to the house,
- 37:39she was again approached by redacted, and Redacted asked if
- 37:43she wanted to return to the house to provide another massage.
- 37:46Redacted agreed, and the arrangements were made by Redacted for
- 37:50her to return to the house. Redacted stated that Redacted
- 37:53drove her to the house and knocked on the same
- 37:56glass door that leads to the kitchen area. They were
- 37:59allowed entry into the house by one of the staff members.
- 38:03Redacted let her upstairs to the master bedroom area. Redacted
- 38:07left Redacted this time to do the massage alone. Epstein
- 38:10entered the room again wearing only a towel. Redacted began
- 38:14removing her clothing, as she did last time she was
- 38:17at the house. Epstein instructed her to get naked. He
- 38:20lay on the table on his stomach as Redacted began
- 38:23massaging his legs and his back. As Redacted finished with
- 38:28Epstein's back and legs, Epstein then turned over onto his back.
- 38:32Redacted started to rub his chest and he began masturbating
- 38:35himself as Redacted rubbed his chest. Epstein leaned over and
- 38:39produced a massager vibrator. He turned it on and began
- 38:44rubbing Redacted's vagina and masturbating himself at the same time.
- 38:48Redacted stated she continued to rub his chest as this
- 38:51was occurring. She described the vibrator massage as large, gray
- 38:56with a large head. Epstein rubbed her vagina for approximately
- 38:59two to three minutes with the massage or vibrator. He
- 39:02then removed the vibrator from her vaginal area and concentrated
- 39:06on masturbating himself. Redacted stated he climaxed onto the towel
- 39:11again and informed her that the massage was done. Redacted
- 39:15got dressed and met with redacted, who was waiting in
- 39:17the kitchen area. She received two hundred dollars for the massage.
- 39:21Redacted said she never returned to the house and had
- 39:24no desire to return to the house. Redacted was asked
- 39:28if she received any formal massage training. She advised she
- 39:32had no formal training. Redacted was asked if Epstein knew
- 39:36a real age. Redacted stated he knew. As he asked
- 39:39her questions about herself and high school. He was aware
- 39:43she attended and is still attending redacted high school. The
- 39:47interview was concluded. I suggested Redacted inform her apparents of
- 39:51what occurred at the Epstein house. Redacted stated she would
- 39:55tell her father, as he was unaware this had occurred.
- 39:58I left my business card for any questions they may have.
- 40:02We left the area and returned to the police station.
- 40:04The tape was placed into evidence. The investigation continues. All right, folks,
- 40:10we're gonna wrap up this episode right here, and in
- 40:12the next episode, we'll pick up where we left off.
- 40:15All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 40:18be found in the description box.