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I Like Whimsy, Sorry · I Think Less of You Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: I can book things with points on it.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'll go look at that.
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SPEAKER_02: I was just offering because I have a travel agent database.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the only reason.
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SPEAKER_02: I was trying to be helpful.
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SPEAKER_00: You were complaining about having to book.
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SPEAKER_00: You just want to make sure I'm using your booking.com affiliate link.
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SPEAKER_02: No, actually.
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SPEAKER_02: I actually don't.
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SPEAKER_02: And I barely ever use it myself.
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SPEAKER_02: I was offering that because I have access to a different database.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'll take you up.
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SPEAKER_02: That's all I was saying.
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SPEAKER_02: I was trying to be helpful for you.
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I can't imagine why I would make the assumption that you have
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the most cynical motives possible.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm actually a really good, nice friend to you.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know that I love this.
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SPEAKER_02: Part of our character arc, because I'm actually always very nice to you.
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SPEAKER_00: Um...
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: so I'm relatively last minute having to travel for Thanksgiving,
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SPEAKER_00: big plans for traveling for Thanksgiving,
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SPEAKER_00: and that's always a fun time.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm the logistics guy in my family.
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SPEAKER_00: I think that every family has a logistics person.
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SPEAKER_00: I am the,
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SPEAKER_00: when things have to be done,
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SPEAKER_00: people start calling me and being like,
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SPEAKER_00: hey,
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SPEAKER_00: we need to do this.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'll figure it out.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm booking hotels.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm figuring out travel itineraries.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm doing all that, so.
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SPEAKER_02: I am not only the logistics person in my family.
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I am the logistics person for all of my friends because my
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friends will be like,
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SPEAKER_02: hey,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm going blah,
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SPEAKER_02: blah,
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SPEAKER_02: blah.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell me where I should go and what restaurant.
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SPEAKER_02: I just,
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SPEAKER_02: even if I've never been to a place,
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I have a skill for finding really good hotels and really good
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restaurants.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is a good skill.
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SPEAKER_02: I would like to be a vacation concierge someday.
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SPEAKER_02: I missed my calling.
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SPEAKER_00: A lot of people aren't good at doing basic Internet research,
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SPEAKER_00: which the more and more you wait around on the Internet,
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SPEAKER_00: the more and more you find that.
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SPEAKER_00: So I guess we mock people a lot.
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justifiably to some degree but who uh you know will pop up with
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replies and be like
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you know reply things are completely wrong that were easily
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verifiable to be wrong
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with a quick search but a lot of people it doesn't occur to
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them they don't know
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how to search they don't know how to search for basic facts
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much less hotels much
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less like you know more complicated travel uh concepts so you
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know that's there's a
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SPEAKER_00: lot of dumb people in the world that's you know the more the more you the
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SPEAKER_00: As you get older,
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SPEAKER_00: the more and more you interact with the world,
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the more and more you realize that you have to give a lot of
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people leeway because
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SPEAKER_00: they're not the brightest.
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I had a decent tweet yesterday about people who are – I mean,
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for me,
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not for you.
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SPEAKER_02: I have a tiny Twitter account.
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SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not monetized.
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And up until recently,
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I was actively trying to have people not find my Twitter
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account.
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SPEAKER_00: You should be monetized.
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SPEAKER_00: You can be monetized.
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SPEAKER_00: You've been punching above your weight lately, so I think that you're –
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SPEAKER_00: You're on the way to monetization.
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SPEAKER_02: I get what you're saying, and that's very sweet.
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Also,
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saying I'm punching above my weight makes me sound like I suck
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and I'm doing better.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I mean follower count-wise.
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SPEAKER_00: When my account was much smaller, I always said that.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I know.
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I always self-describe this punching above my weight because I
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had greater
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SPEAKER_00: visibility than you'd expect from someone with my account size.
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SPEAKER_00: Now I have...
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SPEAKER_00: Honestly,
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SPEAKER_00: I have somewhat greater visibility than you expect,
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SPEAKER_00: but it's less impressive when you have 25,000 as opposed to when you're,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: a guy with 5,000 followers who suddenly,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: shows up and blasts somebody.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't even have 5,000 followers.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, soon.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm close.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you've been...
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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but I actively hid my account for a really long time and didn't
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actually try to put
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anything out there and was very void of personality on my
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account because I was
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SPEAKER_02: always afraid that I was going to be canceled and...
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SPEAKER_02: Up until very recently, I, you know, cared about my company image.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know why I've decided to just burn it all.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't care, but it's where I am.
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SPEAKER_00: I like to think that I provide inspiration for you that you saw.
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SPEAKER_00: This is something I could be like.
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SPEAKER_00: Look at this.
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SPEAKER_00: This is wonderful.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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Wish it went the other way around and you wrote more,
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but we'll get there.
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SPEAKER_02: We will get there.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we are.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know.
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SPEAKER_02: promised your wife i'm gonna get you to write more so i know if only the
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inspiration went the other way i'm sorry i'm coughing up a lung
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today oh no for a
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change no i i woke up feeling not great like you know when you
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kind of have the
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pinched nerve in your neck and you just feel really sinusy
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there's a big storm
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rolling in it's not gonna actually snow because it's never
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gonna snow in colorado
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SPEAKER_02: ever again
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SPEAKER_02: Well, the Front Range, like in Denver.
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SPEAKER_02: It is in the mountains.
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SPEAKER_02: But it's stormy in the mountains.
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SPEAKER_02: And sometimes when that happens, I get really extra sinus-y.
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SPEAKER_02: So I apologize.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, you look great today.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's good.
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SPEAKER_02: I do not.
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SPEAKER_02: But thank you.
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SPEAKER_00: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: You're trying to be nice.
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SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_02: You are lying through your teeth, but I appreciate it.
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SPEAKER_00: That's not true.
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SPEAKER_00: But a while back, you actually did look bad, and I told you that.
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SPEAKER_00: I did.
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SPEAKER_02: I looked really bad that day.
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SPEAKER_00: That solidified my bona fides.
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I'm calling it how I see it because I was like,
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you know,
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normally I'll tell you.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I really, really did.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: When I edit these, I can see the video.
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SPEAKER_02: We don't put the video up.
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SPEAKER_02: But I was going back to that one.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh, Gort.
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SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not just being, like, ticophantic.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm telling you what I honestly feel.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm willing to tell you, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe could have looked better that day.
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SPEAKER_02: No, that day was ratchet.
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SPEAKER_02: It was beyond.
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SPEAKER_02: I do these in the morning and yeah,
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SPEAKER_02: I just sometimes,
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SPEAKER_02: some mornings it takes me longer to be alive.
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SPEAKER_00: It's simply much, because you're two hours behind me.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, to me it's 11 o'clock, to you it's nine.
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So,
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you know,
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that's that's I'm looking rougher,
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deeper in the morning as well.
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SPEAKER_00: This morning, for some reason, I slept.
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SPEAKER_00: I normally wake up right at 630 this morning.
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I just kept on sleep and I woke up like 712 and had to rush out
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of bed because my
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SPEAKER_00: kids had to get to school.
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SPEAKER_00: And I told my wife, I like you're allowed to wake me up.
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SPEAKER_00: It's OK, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: We woke up late tonight or tonight.
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SPEAKER_02: See, this is my brain.
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We were up really late last night because my daughter was
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throwing up all night.
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SPEAKER_00: She's sick.
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SPEAKER_00: You probably are getting sick then.
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SPEAKER_00: If she's sick, you're getting sick.
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SPEAKER_02: We were up all night because she was sick.
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SPEAKER_02: That's unfortunate.
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SPEAKER_02: It's a little bit of a rough start this morning today.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Plus the storm.
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SPEAKER_02: I am driving to Winter Park tomorrow.
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SPEAKER_02: Where's Winter Park?
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SPEAKER_02: The mountains.
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SPEAKER_00: It's still in Colorado.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's the other side of Rocky Mountain National Park.
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SPEAKER_02: Basically,
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SPEAKER_02: if I go,
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SPEAKER_02: you can't do this,
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SPEAKER_02: but if I went straight west over a bunch of 14,000 foot high mountains,
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SPEAKER_02: I would be in Winter Park.
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SPEAKER_00: How long are you going to be in Winter Park?
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SPEAKER_00: Is this a skiing thing, I assume?
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SPEAKER_02: Nope.
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SPEAKER_02: My kids have a thing.
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SPEAKER_02: that they're going to a church thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And we were like, Oh, we can get a free condo.
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So my husband and I are going to go stay in a free condo right
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down the road from
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SPEAKER_02: their church thing.
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SPEAKER_00: And is there anything interesting in winter park?
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SPEAKER_02: Um, not really.
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SPEAKER_02: It is a ski area.
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SPEAKER_02: They have great skiing.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not necessarily dogging on it.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, but like Frazier and, um,
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SPEAKER_02: And like the really small towns around it are not very commercial.
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SPEAKER_02: I do.
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One of my best friends in high school lived up there and I'd go
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up all the time and
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SPEAKER_02: there are some great restaurants,
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SPEAKER_02: but like,
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SPEAKER_02: I think we're just going to sit in the condo and chill.
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SPEAKER_02: And I think.
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Fingers crossed it should be snowing there and I might actually
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feel like it's
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SPEAKER_02: winter for once this year.
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SPEAKER_02: It actually snowed in Hawaii.
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SPEAKER_02: It has snowed in Hawaii this year and it hasn't snowed in Denver yet.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm really cranky.
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SPEAKER_00: Is this a La Nina thing?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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Which means we'll probably get hammered in March and April and
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I say bring it on.
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SPEAKER_02: I need to get a couple cords of firewood and I've slacked on that.
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SPEAKER_02: But like I was wearing a tank top yesterday and
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SPEAKER_01: It's warm.
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SPEAKER_02: It's way too warm.
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SPEAKER_02: It is five degrees warmer at my parents' house in Phoenix.
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SPEAKER_02: That is bonkers for Colorado in winter.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't deal with this.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so grumpy about it.
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SPEAKER_02: I need snow.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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SPEAKER_00: I always like snow in theory,
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SPEAKER_00: but then I have to,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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you have the winters where you're just endlessly digging your
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house out from snow,
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SPEAKER_00: and that gets a bit old.
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SPEAKER_02: We have a snowblower.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: We don't really get snow here, so we get dustings, and that's about it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have to shovel for a dusting.
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SPEAKER_02: You can't use a snowblower for that.
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SPEAKER_02: But, like, at the farm, we have so much.
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SPEAKER_02: We actually have two snowblowers.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I grew up near Lake Erie, so, like, you know, that's...
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SPEAKER_00: I was well used to snow and cold.
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SPEAKER_00: I prefer snow and cold to hot or the heat of summer.
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I always say I could never live in Florida because I can't
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handle the heat.
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SPEAKER_00: I can handle the cold winters.
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SPEAKER_00: I can handle the snow.
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SPEAKER_00: I can't do heat.
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I'm always cold and freezing lately,
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and yet I am as grumpy as I am right now.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, I just complain nonstop if it's not cold.
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SPEAKER_02: I need to move to Greenland.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, let's be honest.
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SPEAKER_00: You just complain nonstop is the thing.
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SPEAKER_02: You make me sound so horrible.
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SPEAKER_02: I am actually a decent person.
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SPEAKER_00: You are.
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SPEAKER_02: You're fine.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm not a decent person.
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SPEAKER_00: I always say I'm built to live in Saskatchewan.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, this is the extreme, extreme.
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SPEAKER_00: Because I can handle any level of cold I'm fine with.
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SPEAKER_00: Temperature goes up above about 75.
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SPEAKER_00: I just don't want to move anymore, especially if there's humidity.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't do that.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm still really angry that Trump has not secured Greenland for us.
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SPEAKER_00: Promises were made.
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SPEAKER_02: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: I want my pet narwhal.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I just want to see that they actually exist.
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SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
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SPEAKER_02: See, I am coughing nonstop.
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SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
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SPEAKER_00: Again, I am the one on this that smokes.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: I am the one on this with asthma and sinus problems.
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SPEAKER_00: I had actual surgery for those sinus problems.
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SPEAKER_00: Legit ones.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they cut out part of my cheekbones.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean.
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SPEAKER_02: It was, you know, well, no, they just like shave it down.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't want to talk.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't want to think about bones being shaved.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's so gross.
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SPEAKER_00: Living bone.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it was really painful.
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SPEAKER_02: I could imagine.
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SPEAKER_02: That's why I always like rub my sinuses when I don't feel good.
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SPEAKER_02: Keep things moving.
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SPEAKER_02: This is really an attractive conversation for the morning.
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SPEAKER_02: So when you go to your wife's family for Thanksgiving...
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SPEAKER_02: do you guys cook?
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SPEAKER_02: Do you guys, do you end up like doing it?
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SPEAKER_02: Does her family do it?
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SPEAKER_00: Depends on the circumstance.
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I feel like this time there's a decent chance that we'll end up
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doing decent bit of the cooking.
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SPEAKER_00: My wife's father quite enjoys cooking.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so he, he takes a very long time to cook, but he enjoys cooking.
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Um,
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we,
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we will have to help out to make sure that we don't,
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we're not eating dinner at nine.
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SPEAKER_00: Cause he's fine with eating dinner at nine.
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SPEAKER_00: Our kids are in bed by nine.
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SPEAKER_00: Um,
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SPEAKER_00: My kids eat at like four.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we generally shoot for between five and six at night to eat.
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SPEAKER_00: Her parents, they haven't had kids at home in a long time.
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SPEAKER_00: They now generally eat their dinner at like eight or nine at night.
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SPEAKER_02: My parents go to bed at like seven.
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SPEAKER_00: It's so weird to me.
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SPEAKER_00: They stay up so much later than we do.
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SPEAKER_00: I've pondered this before,
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SPEAKER_00: that that entire generation,
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SPEAKER_00: they all stayed up until everyone watched Carson.
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Everyone stayed up at least until midnight to get through
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Carson's monologue.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know anybody who stays up that late routinely.
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SPEAKER_02: Not my farming family.
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SPEAKER_02: My Midwest family.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, my mom's side in L.A.
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SPEAKER_02: probably stayed up late, but my dad's family, everyone goes to bed.
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SPEAKER_02: But they were Midwest farmers.
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SPEAKER_02: They were like, sun's down, we're down.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's fair.
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SPEAKER_00: My wife and I watched right before bed.
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SPEAKER_00: YouTube served up last night.
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YouTube served up an interesting—it wasn't as interesting as it
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could have been.
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There was a video about a guy showing how warm a settler cabin
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would have been at
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SPEAKER_00: night on a cold night with just a fire.
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SPEAKER_00: So we watched things like that, and then we turned it.
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SPEAKER_02: I, last night before bed, watched a, it's not a Hallmark movie.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a Netflix movie.
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SPEAKER_02: And we'll talk about this more.
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SPEAKER_02: This is the one that my wife sent me that I sent you.
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SPEAKER_02: I did not finish it.
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SPEAKER_02: It was that bad.
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The way the Wall Street Journal talked about it,
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it sounded like it was purposely meta bad.
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um oh okay so i do i did love it and also it was really bad um
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it was set in paris
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they went to my favorite parisian christmas market at the
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tillery is like in front
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of the louvre um i said that to my husband this morning he was
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like oh that one oh
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SPEAKER_02: yeah he was like oh that was a really nice one um
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SPEAKER_02: You,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think,
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SPEAKER_02: understand Christmas markets for what they are,
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SPEAKER_02: but that's a whole other discussion.
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The place to engage in an orgy of rampant consumerism for the
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birth of Christ.
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SPEAKER_02: I actually don't shop at them very often.
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SPEAKER_02: It's about getting hot drinks,
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SPEAKER_02: and you walk around with friends,
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SPEAKER_02: and you look at stuff,
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SPEAKER_02: and it's just a really fun,
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SPEAKER_02: awesome experience.
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SPEAKER_02: You have to go with friends.
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SPEAKER_02: You have to...
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SPEAKER_02: You know, be there for fun.
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SPEAKER_02: You got cheap, delicious food.
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The one in front of the Louvre at the Tolaris has the big
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raclette torches,
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SPEAKER_02: which I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: I now own a raclette torch because I loved it so much.
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SPEAKER_02: What's a raclette torch?
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It's a heat lamp that you place a wheel of raclette on and it
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melts it and then you
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SPEAKER_02: scoop it off onto bread.
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SPEAKER_02: This is my ultimate party trick.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll do it while you guys, if you come out.
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We have a raclette maker that's like this oval thing with these
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little plates you
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SPEAKER_02: put under there.
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SPEAKER_02: So that's like the melty fondue kind.
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There's also the torch where you get the cheese just like in
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the wheel and you
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literally put like a lamp over the cheese wheel and scoop it
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off straight onto
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SPEAKER_02: bread or
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SPEAKER_02: I like to scoop it onto pierogies.
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SPEAKER_00: A little fusion there.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: A little fusion dining.
16:44
SPEAKER_02: So back to this movie.
16:46
SPEAKER_02: It is horrible.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: I loved it.
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SPEAKER_00: I will watch it again.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: It's called Champagne Problems.
16:53
SPEAKER_00: It is new on Netflix.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I'm aware of this exists.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: I know.
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I'm going to make you watch it and we're going to do a whole
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episode about it.
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And you can just rip on how horrible I am for loving tacky
17:04
Christmas movies.
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SPEAKER_00: Was it you that told me the acting is terrible?
17:09
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's beyond awful.
17:11
SPEAKER_02: Also, the writing.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm fairly certain that...
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SPEAKER_02: An Air France executive or a Visit Paris executive wrote the script.
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There's one part where they're having dinner and they wheel in
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a cheese cart,
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SPEAKER_02: which as an aside,
17:30
SPEAKER_02: I think I even texted you.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, side note, want cheese cart.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: They bring in this huge cart of cheese and it looks amazing.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: Cheese is my best friend.
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SPEAKER_02: So I appreciate it.
17:40
SPEAKER_02: It's cameo.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: Cheese is great.
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SPEAKER_02: The guy announces,
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SPEAKER_02: he's like,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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SPEAKER_02: in a country with over a thousand varieties of cheese,
17:50
SPEAKER_02: you simply have to.
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SPEAKER_02: France is cheese.
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It was just the clunkiest,
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weirdest thing that no one would ever say in regular
17:57
conversation.
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And Hallmark movies have bad writing and bad dialogue,
18:03
but it's usually like it flows.
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SPEAKER_02: It's an actual conversation someone would have.
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SPEAKER_02: This was just like...
18:09
out of a cheesy travel brochure something i don't maybe chat
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gpt wrote it maybe
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someone was translating it from french maybe they had certain
18:20
points they had to
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hit like they show an air france air france kind of features
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prominently at the
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very beginning and i'm like oh are these lines from an air
18:30
france ad that they had
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SPEAKER_02: to incorporate into the script financing things yeah doing
18:37
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I am dying to go to Paris now.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh,
18:41
SPEAKER_02: it also very oddly mimics Emily in Paris,
18:44
SPEAKER_02: which is weird because Emily in Paris's new season comes out soon.
18:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that is.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: It's a Netflix show.
18:52
SPEAKER_02: It is a girly show.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: I absolutely love it and obsessed with it.
18:56
You would hate it and tear your eyeballs out if you had to
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watch even a minute of it.
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SPEAKER_02: But.
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SPEAKER_00: I have minimal interest in ever going to Paris.
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SPEAKER_00: We've discussed this.
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SPEAKER_00: You're so wrong.
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For somebody who uses a French moniker on Twitter,
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you're just so blindingly wrong.
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SPEAKER_00: I would love to go to anywhere in France, but
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Paris.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Paris,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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it doesn't have that interesting of history because they tore
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the whole city down
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and rebuilt it in the 19th century to stop the people from
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being able to throw up
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SPEAKER_00: barricades along the narrow streets.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's, like, you know, all the picturesque stuff.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: It was all built in, like, 1858.
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SPEAKER_02: You don't like de Gaulle-era history.
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SPEAKER_02: There's plenty of history in Paris.
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There are plenty of amazing things that you can do in Paris
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that you would actually
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SPEAKER_02: enjoy in Paris.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: You see people going and shopping and doing all of that.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been to Paris numerous times.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: I couldn't even tell you where the Chanel apartment is.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't go shopping in Paris.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't go do all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_02: We go to museums the entire time.
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SPEAKER_00: I probably actually wouldn't bother to go to the Louvre.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, hold on.
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SPEAKER_02: The Louvre is fantastic.
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SPEAKER_02: However.
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SPEAKER_00: It's too full.
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SPEAKER_00: I hate people.
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SPEAKER_02: It's actually not that full.
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SPEAKER_02: Everyone goes to see the Mona Lisa.
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SPEAKER_02: The Mona Lisa is the stupidest part of going to the Louvre.
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SPEAKER_02: Who cares?
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SPEAKER_02: Skip the Mona Lisa.
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SPEAKER_02: The Louvre is a gigantic building.
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SPEAKER_02: You go to the outer buildings, you have them to yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: They have amazing, beautiful works of art.
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Luke and I have spent entire days in the Louvre and not seen
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other people.
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Like they have whole wings that you can have completely to
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yourself because
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SPEAKER_02: everyone is near the stupid,
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SPEAKER_02: cheesy Mona Lisa.
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SPEAKER_02: It's awful.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not even the best.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: It's hard to see.
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SPEAKER_00: It's behind bulletproof glass.
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SPEAKER_00: It's small.
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SPEAKER_02: I like Lady with Ermine so much more than the Mona Lisa.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Go see Lady with Ermine.
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SPEAKER_02: in Krakow.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't go see the Mona Lisa.
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SPEAKER_02: Go to the Louvre for literally everything else.
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I actually hate that the Mona Lisa is in the Louvre because you
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can't ever get in.
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SPEAKER_02: You can never get tickets.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so packed.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so hard to get into.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: You have to stand in line forever.
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SPEAKER_02: Go to other places.
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SPEAKER_02: I do love the Orsay.
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SPEAKER_02: I could spend all day in the Orsay.
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I always take any time I go to Paris,
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like the first thing I do is go to the Orsay.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll go there multiple times.
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SPEAKER_02: The military museum is great.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, there's so many great things in Paris.
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I have heard you can easily get into the Louvre if you find a
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nearby cherry picker
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SPEAKER_00: and climb it and get in through an upstairs window.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: And you can just take whatever you want.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: It's great.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that does work, I've been told.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you get the skip the line tickets.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, you can do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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the only times I've gone to the Louvre,
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I always do the skip the line tickets.
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SPEAKER_02: Cause you can't, I'm not going to charge for those.
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SPEAKER_00: It was a curiosity.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, I forget.
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SPEAKER_02: You can get it with, you can get it with the Paris pass.
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SPEAKER_02: So I usually get the Paris pass when I go.
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SPEAKER_02: Cause then you get admission to everything.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, you can go to the Arctic.
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SPEAKER_02: There's a museum in the Arc de Triomphe.
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SPEAKER_02: You can go, there's so many, so many amazing museums.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: Like,
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I hate hearing you dog on Paris because it's like you would
22:28
actually like it.
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SPEAKER_02: I also like to stick to the 5th,
22:32
SPEAKER_02: the 6th,
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SPEAKER_02: or maybe the 15th,
22:35
SPEAKER_02: like around the Eiffel Tower,
22:37
SPEAKER_02: but in the residential side.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: The Eiffel Tower should have been torn down.
22:43
SPEAKER_00: It was not meant to be permanent structure.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: It looks like an oil derrick in the middle of the city.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: Incredibly stupid.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: I hate it.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: I hate the evil tower.
22:50
SPEAKER_00: I hate the London Eye.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: I hate all these 20th century blights on historic cities.
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I like the Eiffel Tower because it helps me figure out where I
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am in the city.
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SPEAKER_02: You will never get lost.
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SPEAKER_02: You just look up and you're like, okay, it's in that direction.
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SPEAKER_02: I can find out where I am.
23:08
SPEAKER_02: It's really pretty at night.
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SPEAKER_02: Also have been to Paris numerous times.
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SPEAKER_02: Have never gone up the Eiffel Tower.
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SPEAKER_02: No desire to.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't care.
23:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm not doing that kind of stuff.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: I like to go bum around in St.
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SPEAKER_02: Germain and do some Hemingway bar hopping.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: So the thing is that I don't actually... Museums are okay.
23:32
I don't generally prefer to go to museums because I like
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history that you can walk
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SPEAKER_00: through,
23:38
SPEAKER_00: history you can touch,
23:39
SPEAKER_00: history that you can really...
23:42
SPEAKER_00: With museums,
23:43
SPEAKER_00: it's just,
23:43
SPEAKER_00: oh,
23:44
SPEAKER_00: look,
23:44
SPEAKER_00: it's paintings.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: It's all...
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SPEAKER_02: That's an art museum.
23:48
SPEAKER_02: There's other things in museums.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: Everything's fun.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: But,
23:52
SPEAKER_00: like,
23:53
SPEAKER_00: you know,
23:54
SPEAKER_00: every time you talk about going somewhere,
23:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm like,
23:56
SPEAKER_00: oh,
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SPEAKER_00: there's a cool Castle Ruin near there.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Because I like going to,
24:00
SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: finding some random out-of-the-way Castle Ruin and wandering around that.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: Because there's generally not large crowds of people.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: I like going to those, too.
24:07
SPEAKER_02: I also really enjoy museums.
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SPEAKER_00: There's people at museums.
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SPEAKER_02: Sure, but actually there's not that many people in many museums.
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SPEAKER_02: Museums are very under-trafficked.
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SPEAKER_02: So many tourists are going to the Eiffel Tower.
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SPEAKER_02: They're not going to the military museum.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: Another reason the Eiffel Tower needs to be taken down.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: It was only left up because it worked as a radio tower.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: They were going to tear it down.
24:31
The people at the time thought it was horrible,
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but then radio was coming on the scene.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: They're like, hey, this makes a really good radio tower.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: It's pretty at night.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: I like every hour on the hour for five minutes.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: It shimmers.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: They have the like sparkling lights on it.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: You know what else is pretty at night?
24:46
Sometimes you'll pass a sewage treatment plant and they like
24:50
light it up very nicely at night.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: It's gorgeous.
24:54
SPEAKER_02: I love how snobbish you are against cities you have never been to.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
24:59
SPEAKER_00: This is my thing.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: I have opinions about everything.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: You also, we were talking about Paris.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: Paris.
25:04
SPEAKER_02: And you were like, well, I don't want to go.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to shop.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, what the heck do you think I'm doing when I'm there?
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Shopping.
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SPEAKER_02: I have never shopped in Paris.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: Number one, I'm way too fat to shop in Paris.
25:16
I need to lose like another 50,
25:19
60 pounds if I want to be able to buy anything in Paris.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: Like I have lost about 100 pounds.
25:25
SPEAKER_02: I am only now like acceptable as a human to person.
25:31
In fairness,
25:34
I also endlessly complain about American cities to which I have
25:38
been.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: And English cities to which I have been.
25:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't like cities.
25:46
SPEAKER_00: When I was young, I liked cities.
25:48
SPEAKER_00: I like the countryside now.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: The funny thing is, I actually hate cities.
25:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're horrible.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: I live...
25:55
SPEAKER_02: even more out in the country than you do.
25:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, I hate being around people.
26:00
SPEAKER_02: I don't like cities.
26:01
SPEAKER_02: I don't think I could live in a city again.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: We might have to soon.
26:05
SPEAKER_02: And I am freaking out about that.
26:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't like being around people.
26:10
But there's there is something about European cities that I
26:14
like spending time in.
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SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't
26:17
want to be in them forever that sounds like a death sentence
26:20
but it has to do with
26:23
the living history like you say I mean yeah and that's why
26:26
that's why I'm not
26:27
interested in Paris because Paris tore all their doubt all
26:29
their doubt but there's
26:30
still plenty of history in Paris come on they don't have the
26:33
medieval history
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, that's fair.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: I like the medieval stuff.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even that interested in going, I used to really like London.
26:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm not that interested in London now because it's all built up.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: They got all the hideous glass towers and whatnot.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: As you know, my sole interest in going to, I want to go to York.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Because York has the original,
26:55
it has the original city walls and it has like the medieval
26:57
streets and whatnot.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have hideous the shard sitting there all nasty.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: The shard and the gherkin.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: I hate them.
27:09
SPEAKER_02: No, those are horrible.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Brits hate those too, but.
27:16
When my wife and I went to England last,
27:18
we went to Bath,
27:19
which was quite nice.
27:20
SPEAKER_00: Bath is very touristy, but it was very nice.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: Why don't you want to go to Germany?
27:25
SPEAKER_02: Germany has castles and medieval history everywhere.
27:28
SPEAKER_00: I'd go to Germany.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: I don't really think about going to Germany.
27:35
SPEAKER_00: I would have to ponder where in Germany I'd want to go.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm stuck going to Germany all the dang time.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you go to Frankfurt.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: You fly to Frankfurt.
27:43
Yeah,
27:43
it's kind of my European-based airport,
27:46
which is a bougie thing to say.
27:49
SPEAKER_02: But it's because I have family near Heidelberg.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: Which fantastic castle you would love.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, frankly, the German... Oh, the Germans are awful.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: They're the worst part of Germany.
28:06
SPEAKER_02: Just candidly.
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SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't reflexively want to go to Germany because of the Germans.
28:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Although the Germans are better than Parisians.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's not setting the bar very high.
28:18
SPEAKER_02: But I do have to say,
28:19
SPEAKER_02: I've actually never...
28:22
SPEAKER_02: French people get a really bad rap for being...
28:24
SPEAKER_00: No,
28:25
SPEAKER_00: just Parisians.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: I have never had bad service or someone be rude to me.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: In Paris.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: I have in my brother-in-law's town in Germany.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: Some of that,
28:39
SPEAKER_02: though,
28:39
I think is because my sister-in-law is Belarusian and they're
28:43
super racist against
28:45
SPEAKER_02: Russians.
28:46
SPEAKER_00: Everyone in Europe is super racist against everybody.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Like the Germans can be weird.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: Like they will look at her.
28:52
SPEAKER_02: She's fluent in German.
28:54
SPEAKER_02: She is a translator.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: They won't speak to her.
28:59
SPEAKER_02: They will turn and look at blonde hair,
29:01
SPEAKER_02: blue eyed me while I have green eyes,
29:03
SPEAKER_02: but they're like,
29:04
SPEAKER_02: oh,
29:04
SPEAKER_02: this girl will talk to her.
29:05
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like,
29:06
no no yeah i i can i can ask for food items and i know some
29:14
german but it's really
29:15
really bad and i have a horrible midwest accent when i speak in
29:18
german it's
29:19
hilarious but they will like force themselves through it with
29:23
me and won't even
29:24
look at her and i'm like she's fluent yeah she doesn't even
29:27
speak with an accent
29:28
SPEAKER_02: like she has a perfect perfect german dialect and like
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: She looks it, though.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: No, I hadn't really thought about it.
29:38
But Germany is probably the country in Europe I'm least overall
29:42
interested in going to.
29:43
SPEAKER_00: I'd go to Prague.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: I'd go to Prague.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: Prague isn't a country, but I'm aware of that.
29:51
SPEAKER_00: But I'd go to Bavaria.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: I'd go to Austria.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: I'd go to, like, you know, the Czech Republic.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: Hell, I'd probably go to Slovakia.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: Slovakia is great.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: Slovakia is really pretty.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: Switzerland I'm also interested in going,
30:02
SPEAKER_00: too,
30:02
SPEAKER_00: just because it's reputationally so obscenely expensive.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: I have never been to Switzerland.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: I need to go.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: It's one of my lists.
30:11
SPEAKER_02: But I've always wanted to go, and this is a bucket list thing for me.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: I really want to take the Bernina Express because it's so beautiful.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: What is the Bernina Express?
30:23
If you look up Switzerland train,
30:27
it's the train that goes through the mountains.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: It's really, really beautiful.
30:30
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that sounds like a potential Gary, Indiana is what that sounds like.
30:35
Oh,
30:35
actually,
30:36
you have used pictures of the Bernadette Express for Gary,
30:40
Indiana.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just one of the most scenic, like when you see the most picturesque
30:47
villages and a train going through them that's it i have always
30:52
wanted to ride that
30:53
i'm a mountain person i love the mountains i love snow i love
30:57
winter so that's kind
30:58
of a someday i will go and ride it i've almost booked myself on
31:04
that trip millions
31:05
of times and then i'm like i can't go alone that's i don't like
31:10
traveling alone
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love traveling alone.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: I love doing lots of that.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: I love going to restaurants alone, going to movies alone.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: I love doing lots of things alone.
31:17
You know,
31:17
I have family,
31:18
so I don't because it's rude to leave your family out of your
31:22
plans.
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SPEAKER_02: But I do it all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: I know.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: No,
31:29
SPEAKER_02: I just,
31:29
SPEAKER_02: I love,
31:30
I like to enjoy things and I like to enjoy things with people
31:34
and I like seeing
31:35
SPEAKER_02: people enjoy things.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: I like experience,
31:39
SPEAKER_00: I like doing things with,
31:40
SPEAKER_00: I like doing things with my wife because I like being around my wife.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: I like doing things with my kids.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: I like doing things with my kids because A,
31:50
SPEAKER_00: I like being around my kids and B,
31:55
SPEAKER_00: watching them experience things for the first time is lots of fun.
32:00
But at the same time,
32:02
when you're by yourself,
32:03
you're on your own schedule.
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SPEAKER_00: You're doing your own thing.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to take what someone else wants to do into consideration.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: If you're just wandering along like, oh, that shop looks good.
32:14
I want to wander in there and just hang out for half an hour
32:16
and look around.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: You can do that because it's just you.
32:19
You're not responsible to anybody else,
32:21
but you have to be coordinating with other people.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: So there are pros and cons to it.
32:27
SPEAKER_02: That's why I like traveling with friends more than my family,
32:30
SPEAKER_02: because usually with friends...
32:31
SPEAKER_02: You push your friends around.
32:33
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah.
32:34
I mean,
32:34
I do get to plan...
32:35
I do...
32:36
They ask me to plan it all so I get to do what I want to do.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: No, but also just... I don't know.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: When you're with your friends, you don't care.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: You're like, yeah, let's pop into the store.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: Let's do that.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: It feels...
32:48
SPEAKER_02: You had fun traveling with me.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: Come on.
32:50
It feels less weird to,
32:52
like,
32:52
you know,
32:52
do separate things for,
32:53
you know,
32:54
half a day.
32:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: If it's with a friend than with your spouse.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm ditching out on you, hun.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: Well,
33:03
SPEAKER_02: okay,
33:03
SPEAKER_02: you say that,
33:03
SPEAKER_02: but because we travel a lot and we both travel independently a lot,
33:10
SPEAKER_02: my husband and I will have absolutely no issue being like,
33:13
SPEAKER_02: hey,
33:15
Why don't you go to that museum and I'm going to go do this and
33:18
we'll meet back up for dinner.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: Like we have no problem doing that.
33:21
SPEAKER_02: We also do that.
33:23
We're always looking for like families to go on trips with us
33:27
who will do that.
33:28
SPEAKER_02: Like we don't want to see you all day.
33:29
SPEAKER_02: Let's just like meet up for dinner.
33:33
SPEAKER_00: Reasonable.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Split the price of a big villa or something.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Always staying at big villas.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because it's cheaper.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: It's cheaper to rent a big villa than two hotel rooms.
33:48
SPEAKER_02: Because my kids don't share, you know.
33:53
As you said before,
33:54
the Airbnb in Europe is a different thing than it is in
33:57
America.
33:58
SPEAKER_02: Much nicer.
33:59
SPEAKER_02: Much, much nicer.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Maybe not in the castle form.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: That was cool.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: It was really cool.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't do it.
34:10
As we said at the time,
34:11
I wouldn't have stayed in the keep for multiple nights in
34:14
retrospect.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: But one night 100% is still worth it.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: One night was fine.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: One night was fine.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: I just didn't... The shower felt dusty.
34:22
SPEAKER_02: The shower in my bathroom felt really dusty.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: And, like, I just want to...
34:26
feel like somewhere i'm staying is clean it doesn't have to be
34:29
bougie it doesn't
34:30
have to be super fancy like the thatch roof cottage was my
34:35
bathroom was weird but
34:37
it was clean yeah well again the the it was a limestone keep
34:42
that's limestone
34:43
limestone just dusts it's like it it it absorbs and releases
34:48
water and it creates
34:50
SPEAKER_00: powder
34:51
SPEAKER_02: I felt like I needed to have shower shoes.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to feel like that when I'm renting something.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: It just, you know.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: 100% worth it.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: If I had a similar opportunity, I would do it again at a different place.
35:07
SPEAKER_00: I would do it again for one night.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: I have stayed in Fully Restored Castles.
35:13
SPEAKER_02: There's a hotel.
35:14
SPEAKER_02: I'm actually going back to Ireland in two weeks.
35:19
SPEAKER_00: Is it that quick?
35:20
SPEAKER_00: You love you, Ireland.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: I really did.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: Well, it was just super cheap.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: One of my best friends and I are going.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: We are not going to be in Khmer.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: I thought we were going to be.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: We're staying in Killarney.
35:34
And we're going to be in Dublin,
35:36
which I hate Dublin,
35:37
but we're going for the Christmas market.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: And then we are going to this little town outside of Cork.
35:48
Have you seen those like the candlelight string quartet
35:53
concerts that people do?
35:54
SPEAKER_02: No.
35:55
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it's a really trendy Instagram-y thing.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: That's why I haven't seen it.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: So they do string quartets go around,
36:07
SPEAKER_02: and they have like a thousand candles usually or more,
36:11
SPEAKER_02: and they do like candlelight concerts.
36:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's actually a really fun night out, but we're doing their tribute.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: It's not.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: We're doing the tribute to ABBA.
36:24
SPEAKER_00: I like Abba, but that still sounds awful.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: Everything about that sounds horrible.
36:27
Luke was like,
36:28
thank you for doing that with Brandy,
36:30
because that sounds like torture.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: It sounds twee.
36:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's so twee.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: My friend and I bought dresses.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: We're going to get all dressed up.
36:39
It sounds like something that would appear in an episode of the
36:44
Gilmore Girls.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: It's totally.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: That's why we're doing it.
36:48
Everybody in Stark's Hollow gets together to do this stupid
36:52
thing with candles.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: I think you just don't like people having fun.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: To me, that sounds like so much fun.
37:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: I like to just go do stupid stuff and enjoy myself.
37:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't like superficiality, man.
37:08
SPEAKER_00: I like real.
37:09
SPEAKER_00: I like real.
37:13
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I like to have some superficial fun with my reel.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: The thing is that in many ways,
37:20
SPEAKER_00: I actually am a like early,
37:24
SPEAKER_00: even though I didn't identify as one,
37:26
SPEAKER_00: I actually am a like late teen,
37:31
SPEAKER_00: late aughts,
37:31
SPEAKER_00: early teen style hipster.
37:34
um you just don't like people enjoying things no i i i like i
37:39
like the genuine
37:40
that's that is a genuinely enjoy stupid stuff it's not genuine
37:47
is that real man how
37:49
is it not real if i'm going and experiencing something and it
37:53
makes me feel any
37:54
SPEAKER_02: kind of way how is that not real
37:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: The idea of being required to hold a candle,
38:00
SPEAKER_00: because that's what everyone's doing,
38:01
SPEAKER_00: like the social pressure to,
38:03
SPEAKER_00: if you're going to go listen to this concert,
38:04
SPEAKER_00: you have to have this stupid candle.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: Number one, you're not holding the candles.
38:07
SPEAKER_02: You walk into a room and there's candles everywhere.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: It's just ambiance.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: We have electric lights.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: It's just ambiance.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: No, I don't know.
38:15
SPEAKER_00: It's artificial.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: It's not real, man.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: If I had a bunch of candles lit at a dinner, that wouldn't be artificial.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: That'd be pretty weird.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: Why?
38:29
SPEAKER_00: Fire hazard.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: No.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: This from the woman who has a fake tree.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: I have candles everywhere all the time because it's just.
38:38
SPEAKER_00: If I walk into a room.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't think there's anything wrong with setting the scene.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: If I walk into a place, I get invited to a place for dinner.
38:49
SPEAKER_00: And the only thing that I walk into the dining room,
38:51
SPEAKER_00: the only thing that's illuminating in the place is candlelight.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: My assumption is the food has something seriously wrong with it.
38:57
SPEAKER_00: They're trying to cover up with dim light.
38:59
SPEAKER_00: So I can't identify that, like, you know, they used off meat.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: And everything's a little, eh.
39:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm strongly,
39:07
or perhaps they're extremely poor and they couldn't afford to
39:10
pay the electric
39:11
SPEAKER_00: bill.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: I love dim lighting.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: I have a... I love dim lighting, too.
39:16
SPEAKER_00: Electric lights.
39:17
SPEAKER_02: I have a string.
39:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you're going to kill me for this.
39:20
I have a string of multicolor Christmas lights that are super
39:23
tacky that I just
39:24
SPEAKER_02: like very loosely strung over one of our windows.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: Luke hates it so much.
39:29
SPEAKER_02: I leave them up year round.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: They've been up for like four years.
39:33
I turn off all the lights and I turn on those and I'll light a
39:36
bunch of candles and
39:38
SPEAKER_02: then force my family to have dinner in the dark just because it's vibes.
39:44
I would assume that I was being fed something that was
39:46
extraordinarily unappetizing
39:48
SPEAKER_00: in some way in sight.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: Just wait until you visit me, sir.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: That is how you're going to be served food.
39:58
SPEAKER_02: I'll light a big fire, light a bunch of candles, have really dim lights.
40:03
I enjoy making things a little twee because I feel like life
40:10
needs more whimsy and wonder.
40:12
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
40:14
SPEAKER_00: I would like to emphasize that.
40:14
SPEAKER_02: If it makes people happy, who cares?
40:16
SPEAKER_00: You're implying I like bright lights, which I don't.
40:19
I actually will often just sit in mostly the dark because I
40:23
like the dark.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: I do not like overhead.
40:25
SPEAKER_02: But you need a spotlight on your food, apparently.
40:28
SPEAKER_00: I do not like overhead lights.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: I like lamps.
40:31
The maximum light bulb I think most people need for interior
40:34
purposes is a 60 watt,
40:37
SPEAKER_00: ideally incandescent.
40:40
SPEAKER_02: I'd be happy if we went back to candlelight for everything, personally.
40:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't think you'd appreciate having to make the candles.
40:48
SPEAKER_02: I actually like making candles.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: It's very...
40:50
SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
40:50
SPEAKER_00: but not as,
40:51
SPEAKER_00: like,
40:52
SPEAKER_00: you know,
40:52
SPEAKER_00: a fun little,
40:53
SPEAKER_00: like,
40:54
actually dipping candles and having to make sure you had enough
40:56
put and stored up
40:58
for winter because it's going to be too cold to do it properly
41:00
in the wintertime.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: Sure.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: In this scenario,
41:04
I would like us to be able to buy them and have them delivered
41:08
from Amazon.com.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: I just... Shocker.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: No, I just like dim lighting, and there is something that
41:17
SPEAKER_02: It speaks to me.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: It makes me happy.
41:19
SPEAKER_02: I like twinkle lights.
41:22
SPEAKER_02: I like candles.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: I like random electronics.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: Who am I to judge?
41:29
SPEAKER_00: Because they're real.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: Old electronics.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: They're real, man.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: I like whimsy.
41:34
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
41:38
SPEAKER_02: Life sucks enough.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: Let people have fun with pretty decorations and doing stupid things.
41:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm actually somewhat whimsical, but I'm whimsical in my own ways.
41:47
SPEAKER_00: Everyone is.
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: My wife is very practical.
41:53
My children will apparently reference that their mom doesn't
41:57
have whimsy because
41:59
SPEAKER_00: I'll accuse her of not having whimsy.
42:04
I think she and I need to,
42:05
like,
42:06
combine because I have nothing but whimsy.
42:09
SPEAKER_02: I need to be practical.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm the least practical person on earth.
42:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm so not practical.
42:17
SPEAKER_02: My poor husband is like, court, come back.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: It should be complimentary.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: They should, you know, practical and impractical.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I'm practical where I need to be.
42:29
SPEAKER_00: I will do logistics for my family, that sort of thing.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: Which is funny because I'll do the logistics.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: I'll do the planning and things.
42:38
SPEAKER_02: My husband does not plan trips or vacations.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: If it wasn't for me, he wouldn't do anything.
42:45
SPEAKER_02: And he'll say this.
42:46
He'll be like,
42:47
Court,
42:47
if it wasn't for you,
42:48
I wouldn't do half this stuff.
42:52
SPEAKER_02: I kind of bring him out of the cave.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: But also, I'm always floating around in some weird daydream world.
43:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm okay with that, though.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: I like to like things.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: The, yeah, I just like planning.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: I think reflexively think more ahead than a lot of people, I think.
43:15
SPEAKER_00: And that's why I tend to like to play it.
43:17
I tend to be called upon and liked and somewhat enjoy planning
43:20
things because I am
43:23
SPEAKER_00: generally,
43:24
SPEAKER_00: I like to think through steps of things and be like,
43:27
SPEAKER_00: all right,
43:27
SPEAKER_00: so we'll do this,
43:28
SPEAKER_00: then we'll do this,
43:29
SPEAKER_00: then we'll do this and like structure it.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm good at searching things online.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm good at understanding how the internet works.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: What you have to plug into Google to get what you want out of it.
43:41
Yeah,
43:41
sometimes I think that I like planning more than I like
43:46
actually doing.
43:47
SPEAKER_02: It's the daydream part of it.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm just always off in my own little space.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: No.
43:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm okay with that, though.
43:59
SPEAKER_02: I'll admit it.
44:00
SPEAKER_02: No,
44:00
SPEAKER_02: we're going to go do,
44:01
we're going to get all dressed up and go see a string quartet
44:07
perform ABBA.
44:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the ABBA thing.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: I actually like ABBA.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: I love ABBA.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: I enjoy ABBA.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about a string quartet doing ABBA.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: I don't know about that.
44:21
SPEAKER_00: Why not?
44:22
SPEAKER_00: It's the vocal harmonies that really are the thing with ABBA.
44:25
SPEAKER_02: I know, but it's just something cheesy to go and enjoy.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:31
SPEAKER_02: I like cheesy stuff.
44:32
This smacks of something Lorelai and Luke would go to in the
44:36
Gilmore Girls.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: Yes, I know a decent bit about the Gilmore Girls.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: I actually watched the Gilmore Girls back in the day.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't know why you're saying any of this is an insult.
44:44
Also,
44:45
Gilmore Girls is having an odd renaissance,
44:47
especially Target right now.
44:49
Yeah,
44:50
I think it's because Gen Alpha,
44:53
like my daughter,
44:54
have rediscovered it.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: My daughter loves Gilmore Girls.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: She has watched through it probably four times.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: We use Gilmore Girl quotes all the time to each other.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: My husband has watched all of Gilmore Girls and has very,
45:10
SPEAKER_02: very strong opinions about all of the characters.
45:13
I don't think I could watch that show again because I watched
45:17
it and I found out
45:18
SPEAKER_00: that Rory Gilmore turns into one of history's greatest monsters.
45:24
SPEAKER_00: Turns into?
45:25
SPEAKER_02: She was the whole time.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, but it wasn't as obvious early on.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: Like,
45:29
SPEAKER_00: you know,
45:29
SPEAKER_00: you see her grow and grow into eventually becoming,
45:35
SPEAKER_00: you know,
45:36
SPEAKER_00: on par with Paul Pot in many respects.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: Well, it didn't even take that long because I'm sorry.
45:43
SPEAKER_02: When she slept with Dean.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't do cheaters, cheaters.
45:49
SPEAKER_00: No, she was a horrible, a horrible written as a villain.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: She's terrible.
45:57
SPEAKER_00: Edward Herman rocked in the show.
45:58
SPEAKER_00: I mostly watched the show because I really liked Edward Herman.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: For Richard.
46:02
SPEAKER_02: Bridget calls herself Richard.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's great.
46:06
SPEAKER_00: He's wonderful.
46:06
SPEAKER_02: I love that she knows that she's the crusty old grandpa.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: I love that my 13-year-old daughter watches it and her takeaway is,
46:14
SPEAKER_02: oh,
46:15
SPEAKER_02: that stodgy old man,
46:16
SPEAKER_02: that's me.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: At least she doesn't identify with Rory.
46:19
SPEAKER_00: Or what's it?
46:21
SPEAKER_00: The other chick.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, you know who I am.
46:26
SPEAKER_00: Lorelei.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:28
SPEAKER_02: I really hate that about myself,
46:29
SPEAKER_02: and I hate that for me,
46:31
SPEAKER_02: because I hate Lorelei,
46:32
SPEAKER_02: and I'm like,
46:33
SPEAKER_02: oh,
46:33
SPEAKER_02: God,
46:33
SPEAKER_02: I'm Lorelei.
46:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm probably the dad.
46:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm Edward Herman.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: I'm not a Luke type.
46:38
SPEAKER_00: He's practical.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm not practical.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: I feel like my Luke is kind of a Luke.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: Is he practical?
46:46
SPEAKER_00: I feel like...
46:49
luke he was able to build things he's like he's a more classic
46:53
man's man i i i i'm
46:55
more the the dad the the uh edward herman because i you know
47:00
sarcastic uh generally
47:02
friendly but also you know a bit prickly at times and not
47:07
really good at doing
47:07
SPEAKER_02: anything real my luke is a luke um
47:13
SPEAKER_02: That Luke was a little handier than my Luke is.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: Mine can be like he can build things and he can fix things.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: It's not his like go to.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: No, he is.
47:26
SPEAKER_02: He's pretty Luke.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh, gosh.
47:29
SPEAKER_02: We're Luke and Lorelai.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: Kill My Girls was a good show, though.
47:34
SPEAKER_00: It was just so heightened.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: It became this ensemble with the town.
47:39
In college,
47:42
I knew all these people who were like,
47:43
oh,
47:43
I want to live in Stars Hollow.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: That place doesn't exist.
47:46
SPEAKER_00: Those people would not be able to form a functioning society.
47:49
SPEAKER_02: No.
47:50
SPEAKER_02: At all.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: Also, my Luke grew up, well, for a while.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: He lived in small town Connecticut, and he's like, none of this.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: It's horrible.
47:58
SPEAKER_02: He's like, no, none of this is real.
48:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, no.
48:02
SPEAKER_00: It is not the charming, the wonderful, charming.
48:05
SPEAKER_00: No, absolutely not.
48:06
SPEAKER_02: He's like, they'd all be huge methods.
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SPEAKER_02: Although now they'd all be fabulously wealthy, but...
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SPEAKER_00: Clearly, we need to do a, we should start watching Gilmore Girls.
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SPEAKER_00: We should.
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SPEAKER_00: To discuss the various episodes and character arcs.
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SPEAKER_02: Maybe we should watch Gilmore Girls over that.
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SPEAKER_02: But that Netflix movie, I'm going to make you watch it.
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SPEAKER_02: It is so, so bad.
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SPEAKER_02: I did not finish it.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's interesting.
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Netflix,
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I think in the past they have dabbled in the Hallmark style
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movie world.
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SPEAKER_02: They've leaned fully in.
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SPEAKER_02: They even got, so Lacey Chabert, I forget her last name.
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SPEAKER_02: She was the little sister on Party of Five, wasn't she?
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SPEAKER_00: I've never watched Party of Five.
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SPEAKER_00: I was a guy.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, fair.
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SPEAKER_02: If I showed you her picture, you'd be like, oh, yes, I know that girl.
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SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't bet my money on that.
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SPEAKER_02: I guarantee you,
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SPEAKER_02: you would,
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SPEAKER_02: because she was like every guy our age is like dream girl in the 90s.
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SPEAKER_02: That she was mine.
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SPEAKER_02: I bet you she was.
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SPEAKER_02: She seems like she would have been your type.
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anyway blonde no oh no that's why i'm saying this is why i'm
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saying i'm pretty sure
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she would have been i've never seen that person before in my
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life oh well she's
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like the sweet girl next door who's also like smoking hot and
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all right all right i
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SPEAKER_02: feel like she would have
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SPEAKER_02: She's not blonde.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
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SPEAKER_00: I know you hate blondes.
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SPEAKER_00: That actually isn't even true.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, that was, I thought, what's it?
49:57
SPEAKER_00: Clarissa explains it.
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SPEAKER_00: Melissa Joan Hart.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought she was very cute when I was young.
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SPEAKER_00: And she's not the same person who played.
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SPEAKER_00: She didn't play Alex Mack, did she?
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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SPEAKER_02: that's Larissa Olnick,
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SPEAKER_02: who I always confuse with Anna Chlumsky because they kind of look alike.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they look very similar.
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SPEAKER_00: Melissa Joan Hart,
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SPEAKER_02: people used to always say that I looked like in high school,
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SPEAKER_02: but I don't actually.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just because I have a lazy eye like she does.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh.
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SPEAKER_02: People also told me I looked like Alicia Silverstone.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, yeah, I look like I ate her.
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SPEAKER_00: And Mayim Bialik.
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SPEAKER_00: I really liked Mayim Bialik on Blossom back in the day.
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I was not a teen girl,
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so I was not watching these things being like,
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oh,
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she's dreamy.
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SPEAKER_00: But in retrospect,
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SPEAKER_00: I was a friend of Israel even then,
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SPEAKER_00: because I was a big fan of Mayim Bialik back in the day.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I was going to go for... It was incredibly Jewish looking.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, I was going to go a very different route there, but...
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SPEAKER_02: I was going to say she's a scientist.
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SPEAKER_00: She is a scientist.
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SPEAKER_02: And a brunette.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was going to play into that being your type.
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SPEAKER_00: Because it's like your wife.
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SPEAKER_00: I overlooked the fact.
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SPEAKER_02: Your wife is far prettier.
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SPEAKER_00: She was in Big Bang Theory.
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SPEAKER_00: And I hate Big Bang Theory.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: I overlooked that.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I was saying you have a type.
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SPEAKER_02: But your wife is actually far prettier than she is.
51:39
SPEAKER_00: I like sensible people.
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SPEAKER_00: Keep me grounded.
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SPEAKER_00: Practical, sensible scientist types.
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SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyways.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
51:51
SPEAKER_02: I'm coughing up a lung.
51:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm basically dying.
51:55
SPEAKER_02: This has been a really scatterbrained episode.
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SPEAKER_02: We didn't actually talk about anything.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I've been busy with logistics.
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SPEAKER_00: We didn't get a chance.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was fine.
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SPEAKER_00: We wandered around, but.
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We didn't talk about Epstein stuff and we didn't talk about the
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Democratic staffer
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who wrote a book and is talking about being disillusioned by
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going to D.C.
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SPEAKER_02: and realizing nothing actually happens.
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Both of which are topics we will probably get into,
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but we both have been really busy.
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SPEAKER_02: You have been logistics planning.
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SPEAKER_02: I have been making 40 million types of stuffing.
52:36
SPEAKER_00: Fun times as a food blogger.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: Pretty sure that I am going to piss off both the Italian community,
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SPEAKER_02: the American readers,
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SPEAKER_02: and my Italian-American readers with some of my creations of stuffing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, can you not just re-upload old stuff?
52:59
SPEAKER_00: Like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: let's say if you have recipes from like 2012,
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SPEAKER_00: rather than make new stuff,
53:05
SPEAKER_00: be like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: we've probably seen those in a while.
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I could just like,
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you know,
53:08
basically reformat this and boost it back to the top.
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SPEAKER_02: I do that.
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SPEAKER_02: I do that, like, every other day.
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SPEAKER_02: But the problem is,
53:17
SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: where we are in Google right now,
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SPEAKER_02: my site does a lot better if I'm publishing new stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Take the old thing,
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SPEAKER_00: maybe,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: just tweak it slightly,
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SPEAKER_00: and then just publish it as new.
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SPEAKER_00: It'd be like, yeah, we did it.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I do that.
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SPEAKER_02: So, like, I'll change.
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I'll go into old posts and,
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like,
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I reshoot the pictures and I,
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you know,
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write more things.
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I want to revisit this recipe that I published back then
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because I thought it had a lot of...
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although it was great it could have been more no i do that all
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the time like my top
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posts i republish as new all the time um yesterday i published
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a turkey stock
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recipe that was published like three years ago and i re-upped
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it so i a recipe for
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turkey stock you just throw it in a microwave with water and
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leave it a microwave
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SPEAKER_00: no i'm sorry i have a crock pot that's
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SPEAKER_00: You throw it in a slow cooker.
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SPEAKER_02: Look, give away my secrets and most of the recipes on my site.
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You chop up onions,
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you chop up some carrots,
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huck them out in there,
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and they're good.
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to bookend this back to,
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I feel like I started on this and we went down 15 different
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roads.
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SPEAKER_02: The tweet that I had that got a little bit of attention yesterday was,
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SPEAKER_02: um,
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SPEAKER_02: me saying,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: that you can adjust for taste,
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SPEAKER_02: right?
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Because this guy was complaining that he was making a baked
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ziti and the recipe
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SPEAKER_02: called for a fingernail of red pepper flakes,
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SPEAKER_02: which for the record,
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SPEAKER_02: I put in a
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crap ton i put in when i say like four cloves of garlic on my
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website everyone
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should know that i'm actually putting in an entire head of
54:57
garlic i generally
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double whatever the garlic recommendation is because you know
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that that's what you
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like i have to make my recipes really bland because i will have
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five million people
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being like oh all i tasted was garlic oh this is so spicy i
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hated it because people
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SPEAKER_02: can't think for themselves but
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SPEAKER_02: Well,
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SPEAKER_02: this guy's complaining about it,
55:18
SPEAKER_02: and he's like,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm never going to go to a white person's blog again because they have no
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SPEAKER_02: seasoning.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, you know you can adjust for taste.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: But here's the thing.
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SPEAKER_02: The guy calls that out,
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and he doesn't have enough imagination to season to taste for
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something that he
55:36
SPEAKER_02: likes.
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SPEAKER_02: But he was making a baked ziti dish with fusilli.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, your pasta's going to fall apart and be mush because you –
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SPEAKER_02: You could be creative about something.
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SPEAKER_02: It actually really matters.
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SPEAKER_02: You can't use fusilli in a baked dish.
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SPEAKER_02: It's going to be mush.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: There's no structural integrity.
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SPEAKER_00: Each pasta has a specific shape like that for a reason.
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SPEAKER_00: It has a job.
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SPEAKER_02: I have to find a reply tweet.
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SPEAKER_02: But because this was great for me,
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SPEAKER_02: I really don't ever tweet good things,
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SPEAKER_02: but I was proud of this one.
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SPEAKER_02: He he just it was like,
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SPEAKER_02: how are you going to say you can't change a recipe,
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SPEAKER_02: but then you're changing everything about the dish.
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So someone writes to me,
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what holds more sauce,
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the death spiral or the juice tube?
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SPEAKER_02: Because he's talking about different shapes of pasta.
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SPEAKER_02: And I said, the problem is the death spiral falls apart faster.
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SPEAKER_02: It'll be mush.
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SPEAKER_02: The juice tube has better structural integrity for a baked sauce dish.
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SPEAKER_02: And he was like, that's actually a really good explanation.
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I was like,
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I was just excited to use structural integrity and juice tube
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in the same sentence.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're doing a...
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Things like fusilli and whatnot are meant to have sauce poured
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on them,
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and then you eat it.
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SPEAKER_00: If you're baking it in a sauce, you have to have one that will hold up.
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SPEAKER_00: That's just basic common sense.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, apparently this person just wanted to yell at white people.
57:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I didn't I know the post you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't look.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm sure he got a massive amount of interaction.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure he I'm sure he did very well off of it,
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SPEAKER_00: because if you if you do a white people don't season their food post,
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SPEAKER_00: it's guaranteed to do to do great numbers.
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SPEAKER_02: It's so annoying.
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SPEAKER_02: I hate stuff like that, especially like I am the pastiest of pasties.
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SPEAKER_02: I am see-through white.
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But I'll go to restaurants and things,
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especially like when we go out to Thai food.
57:41
SPEAKER_02: My daughter and I are insane.
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SPEAKER_02: We are extra Thai hot people.
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SPEAKER_02: We eat very volcanic hot sauce.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'll have to be like, look, I get it.
57:51
SPEAKER_02: I know I'm Casper.
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SPEAKER_02: Also, please give me...
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SPEAKER_02: food meant for someone else because it's never seasoned right.
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SPEAKER_02: But, like, I don't know.
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I hate...
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I know you're...
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Also,
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it's a historically ignorant thing to say.
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SPEAKER_00: White people, Western Europeans spent...
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untold amounts of money and lost untold amounts of lives trying
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to travel overseas
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that they had no knowledge of what was on the other end of to
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get to a place where
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SPEAKER_00: they heard they had spices they could bring back.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Like...
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Basically,
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the world as it is,
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is a product because white people wanted spice in their food.
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I get that there are some Brits who eat beans on toast,
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my husband being one of them.
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SPEAKER_02: And also...
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SPEAKER_02: We built society because white people wanted flavor.
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What is actually generally being referred to is that if you go
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to a soul food
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SPEAKER_00: restaurant,
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SPEAKER_00: they will use a lot of hot sauce.
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SPEAKER_00: When they're talking about spice, they're talking about hot sauce.
58:59
SPEAKER_00: They're talking about dumping.
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SPEAKER_00: Hot sauce is great.
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SPEAKER_00: I love hot sauce.
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SPEAKER_00: There are other spices than hot sauce.
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SPEAKER_00: There are other flavors than hot sauce.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: I like all of them.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I like dishes soaked in hot sauce.
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SPEAKER_02: I like dishes with way too much other flavor.
59:20
I can't do Indian food because they almost always use mustard
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seed to form a curry
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SPEAKER_02: paste,
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which makes me really sad because everything else about it I'm
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really into.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I'll tell you, Indian food's pretty good.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I love Indian food.
59:37
SPEAKER_02: I just, you know, vomit uncontrollably afterwards for a long time.
59:43
SPEAKER_00: My kids are really into naan.
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SPEAKER_00: They love eating naan.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, I can eat naan.
59:46
SPEAKER_00: Naan's great.
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SPEAKER_02: I can eat naan.
59:48
SPEAKER_02: I can eat masalas.
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SPEAKER_02: It's about 50-50.
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SPEAKER_02: It just depends on what is in people's blend.
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SPEAKER_02: I have to ask restaurants, like, are you blending your own curry?
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SPEAKER_02: And if you are...
1:00:00
SPEAKER_02: Do you put mustard in it?
1:00:02
So there's like 10 percent of Indian food restaurants I can go
1:00:06
to that I feel
1:00:07
SPEAKER_02: comfortable being like,
1:00:08
SPEAKER_02: OK,
1:00:09
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to be poisoned after eating this.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_02: But it's a really niche complaint.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_02: And it really sucks because I really, really, really do love Indian food.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_02: I just can't eat it.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_00: All right.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_00: I think we're good.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_00: We filled our time.
1:00:24
SPEAKER_02: I think we are.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_02: I think we're probably not doing a space, I'm guessing.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_00: I know we still can.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_00: I had the drive to get my wife's grandmother to bring her up.
1:00:35
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be in a hotel.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_00: Great.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_00: That'll be perfect.
1:00:38
SPEAKER_02: So you'll be bored and have time to kill.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming I have decent signal.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: I can definitely do a space.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_02: I will also be in a hotel,
1:00:46
SPEAKER_02: hopefully not in a blizzard,
1:00:47
SPEAKER_02: but I will have a Starlink mini with me.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_02: Got to test it out before going to Phoenix.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_02: Our next week's episodes might be unhinged.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_02: They might exist.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_02: They might not.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_02: We will find out.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_00: Tune in.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.