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WHEN EGO OVERLOADS COMMON SENSE · Plausibly Live - The Dave Bowman Show Podcast

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From the On Air Across America NEWSROOM, I'm Alex Ross and this
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is your Morning News update. Hurricane Isaias has become the
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And ESP NS Stephen A Smith has apologized following criticism
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of his remarks about Eagles tackle Lane Johnson's decision
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to retire partly for mental health reasons.
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For the On Air Across American network, I'm Alex Ross.
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History has a long memory. Power has a short one.
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Somewhere between what they told you, what actually happened, and
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what nobody bothered to question, there's a story worth
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telling. From history and politics to
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culture, common sense, and the occasional trip down the rabbit
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hole, this is plausibly live The Dave Bowman Show.
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And now the brother sat up there, one of the all time
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greats is our best of luck. And what did he do, Shay?
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What did he do, Jordan? He went like this.
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You know what? I'm going to call the cops.
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Now he calls the questions not fourth season, not offseason.
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no. need to focus on my mental
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health and as an offensive tackle, love to know it's bad.
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You walk away because it's a very, very, very bad situation
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and it doesn't look to be getting any.
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Better and this brothers. Say.
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Hey. My life matters.
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It's time. Well, good morning, good evening
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or good afternoon, wherever you are, whatever you do.
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A lot of things happening in the world today, most of them are
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far beyond our control, you might say.
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So perhaps it's time we took a pause and thought about life and
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thought about gravity. Sports, sports commentators,
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podcasting, a lot of things. Don't touch that dial.
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Just try to hear me out for a little while. 209565 Dave is the
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text machine. 209-565-3283. E-mail Dave at the Dave Bowman
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Show, A Loqui Conizio. Stand up, tell those who oppose
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liberty, don't tread on me. So I'm just going to say it, and
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I'll say it as kindly as I can. Stephen A Smith has never, ever
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been my cup of tea. Ever.
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It goes back to 2006, possibly early 2007.
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I, I haven't looked at the date, but I can tell you it was right
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in that time frame because at the time I was working for KFIV
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as a backup news guy and I had to leave, had to be at the
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studio at 4:00 AM because of Bill's insane 530 news program
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to get stuff recorded. And on the way in, I would do
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two things. Number one, I would stop at Mr.
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TS Doughnuts and get a Bigfoot doughnut.
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I weighed 300 lbs, folks. It was a, it was a different
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time. And I would listen to Fox Sports
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1 on the XM Radio channel on the way in and particularly a, a, a
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radio show that I very much enjoyed, the host of whom has
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become something of a friend. We've never actually met in
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person, but we've talked a lot about radio podcasting.
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The name of my show plausibly live was brazenly stolen from
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one of his catch phrases. So Steve Zabe and once again,
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thank you. And one morning on the way in,
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suddenly Zabe's show wasn't there and he was replaced by
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Stephen A Smith. Fox Sports inspired him and and
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and brought in Stephen A Smith. And I had no, nobody to this day
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knows why, except that Stephen A Smith is the is the hot the hot
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commodity. Back then, he was just kind of
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getting started. And now, of course, he's ESP NS
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hot commodity, except that he's kind of been pushed out a little
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bit, I guess, by Pat McAfee, who I also couldn't care less about.
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It's not that I'd like or dislike him.
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It's just a little bit goes a long way, you know?
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So Smith's style sports commentary has always struck me
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as more about Stephen A Smith than it is about actual sports.
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But yesterday he took to the airwaves and in what can only be
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described as an extraordinarily uncomfortable 3 minutes on
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national live television, he went after Lane Johnson.
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Now, many of you don't know who Lane Johnson is because you're,
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you're not Eagles fans, you're not football fans.
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But Lane Johnson was one of these stalwarts of the
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Philadelphia Eagles offensive line.
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He's a great offensive lineman who don't get a lot of
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discussion outside of the Jason Kelsey.
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And he only gets discussed because he's related these
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Travis Kelce's, you know, Mr. Swift's brother.
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So most people can't name 5 offensive lineman.
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And I'd be hard pressed. I'm a Broncos maniac.
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I'd be hard pressed to name more than one offensive lineman for
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the Broncos. Garrett Bowles, it's about the
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only one I know. I don't really know him because
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he gets called for penalties too often.
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So we're not talking about the glamour players here.
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Lane Johnson announced after years in the league that he was
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retiring. He the reason he was retiring
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was to deal with his mental health.
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Didn't say I have mental health issues.
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He said he needed to focus on his mental health.
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That's not the same thing. But as you heard, Stephen A
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Smith just glommed onto that and basically went after him rather
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than accepting Wayne Johnson's explanation on national
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television live, Stephen A Smith mocked the timing of the
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announcement. He mocked Johnson and suggested
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you heard it, that Johnson was really abandoning A struggling
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football team And the Eagles are a struggling football team.
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And the Eagles have got a lot of issues right now.
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They have a lot of injuries. I think it's something like 9
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starters are out on offense. They've never had, you know,
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they've never had confidence in their quarterback to begin with.
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I personally think he's pretty good, but but they've never had
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the confidence. The guy won a Super Bowl.
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So Smith goes after them. He even at one point pretended
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to be Johnson, discussing his mental health and laugh during
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the performance. And then he went into that line
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about, you know, my life matters.
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Stephen A Smith has apparently, in my view, reached the point
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where his basically his ego has overloaded his ass and nobody,
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it seems like at ESPN, had the common sense to tell him to, I
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don't know, shut the fuck up. But there is something about
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this entire incident yesterday that bothers me.
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Beyond Stephen A Smith. I mean, Stephen A Smith is,
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look, God bless him, they pay him a lot of money for that.
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They don't pay me a lot of money for that.
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So maybe I have more freedom. I don't know.
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But not my cup of tea. But beyond his behavior, which
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is nothing new, by the way, you got to ask some questions here.
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How did how did this happen? The program he was on is called
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First Take. It has producers, it has
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researchers, it has planned topics and it has pre show
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discussions. Nothing on live television
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happens by accident. There are scripts, there are
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teleprompters, there are note cards, there are pre pre show
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meetings. They discussed all this stuff.
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Now, it's possible that because he's an extemporaneous speaker,
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because he does things, you know, kind of the way I do, that
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his precise wording may have been improvised during this
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rant, but his, The retirement of Lane Johnson was a scheduled
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discussion topic. And somebody presumably knew
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what Smith intended to argue, even if nobody anticipated the
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style of delivery, which was pure mockery.
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There doesn't seem to have been any editorial judgement in place
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here. Did anyone stand up to Stephen A
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Smith and go, dude, don't do that?
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Just just don't? We can have a discussion about
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mental health. We can have a discussion about,
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you know, a player retiring. And keep in mind, this isn't
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mental health in the sense that Lane Johnson is saying, well,
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I'm mentally ill and I need to get treatment.
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It's not what he said. He said I need to deal with my
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mental health. I need to deal with what's going
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on in my life, which by the way, seems pretty significant to me.
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But somehow that got turned into mocking somebody for, for making
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that decision. Doesn't seem to have been any
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editorial judgement. Doesn't seem to be anybody
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standing there going, you know what?
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Don't do that. We're paying you, so we get to
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decide what you say. Now on air, one of the other
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hosts, Kimberly Martin, did challenge him, demonstrating
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that at least one colleague recognized the problem.
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The other host, Christopher Russo, also disputed the claim
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that the Eagles record explained Johnson's retirement.
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It wasn't that they're two and two, not instead of four and O.
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And if you watch the video, you can feel the discomfort.
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You can feel the, and the way he looks at them and, and, and the,
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the bit I played was cut down quite a bit.
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But you, the way they look at him with that dude, are, are you
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really doing this now? There's no evidence that we that
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we know of that the producers knew that Smith was going to
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mock Wayne Johnson's mental health or that they deliberately
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allowed it. The legitimate criticism is that
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the show's preparation and safeguards appear to have been
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inadequate and don't think they don't exist because they do.
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Those, those safeguards are, are are always there.
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You always have those conversations before you go live
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on the air, even if you only have them with yourself.
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You look at stuff and you go, is this really what I want to say?
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If someone is if, if ESPN is going to pay Stephen A Smith
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millions of dollars to speak, shouldn't they have someone
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saying, you know, we need to exercise some editorial
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judgement about what he says? Or does Stephen A Smith have
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carte blanche to just say whatever the hell he wants?
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We used to have phrase in radio, the phrase was this.
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Your job as a talk show host on radio is #1 protect the license,
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period. That's rule #1.
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It's also rule #2 it's rule #3 it probably down to about rule
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#10 or 12. Protect the license.
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Your job is to not get people in trouble and not say stuff that's
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going to be, you know, crazy. And if you do, we're going to
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fire you. Stephen A Smith has been one of
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ESP NS defining personalities which could be part of the
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problem with the company. He commands an extraordinary
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salary. He has substantial control over
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his public identity. We all want that.
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Everybody in this business wants that control over our public
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identity. We want to present ourselves the
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way we want to be seen. At the same time, Pat McAfee
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represents a different model of sports broadcasting, which is
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personality driven, irreverent and increasingly influential
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with the within ESP NS programming.
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There is a lot of discussion in the sports talk world about the
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fact that ESPN has basically become the Pat McAfee Network.
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He's on every show, He's live dropped into every other show.
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He's seemingly kind of pushed Stephen A Smith out of the way.
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Does that raise the question about Smith's positioned as ESP
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NS, unquestionable central personality?
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Is that position that he had Once Upon a time a little bit
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less secure? Remember, there was a time when
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it was Stephen A Smith that you couldn't turn on ESPN without
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seeing him. Has he become, has Smith become
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so powerful that producers of TV shows are reluctant to challenge
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him before he goes on the air? Which raised the question in my
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mind, I've seen this happen. I have.
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I have seen this happen in production.
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I've seen it happen in business, I've seen it happen in schools.
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What if someone knew what he was going to say and they simply
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allowed him to do it because they knew what would happen?
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What if those internal relationships at ESPN are so
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bad? Now, I'm not saying it happened.
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I'm just saying I've seen it happen before and they just let
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him do it. They just, you know, they just
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said, OK dude, how about it? Now that's speculation on my
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part. It's it's absolutely speculation
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because AI don't work at ESPN and BI would have no way of
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knowing, even though I did. It's not an accusation that I
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have no evidence of it. It's a question that naturally
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occurs because you're dealing with institutional incentives
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surrounding powerful broadcasters.
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It could be that way, I suspect. I'll be honest with you.
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Remember, remember when Rush Limbaugh was on Sunday Morning
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Countdown on ESPN? Yeah, a lot of people don't
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remember this, but he was on that show for, I don't know,
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three weeks, something like that.
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And there was a question about Donovan McNabb and rushed
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through the red challenge flag or whatever it was and made a
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comment about Donovan Mcdabb being a black quarterback, so
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getting special treatment, blah, blah, blah.
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And I was watching when it happened.
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I was watching when it happened live.
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And it wasn't that big of a deal.
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There wasn't any reaction on the show.
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But by the next day, Rush Limbaugh was out.
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What if somebody knew Rush Limbaugh was going to say that
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and let him do it anyway because they they wanted to get rid of
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him and they knew that would do it.
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Just saying it's possible. The strongest criticism, though,
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is something that I object to when it comes to talk radio
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hosts in general. I don't care if you're talking
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about Stephen A Smith. I don't care if you're talking
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about Sean Hannity. I don't care if you're talking
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about me. One of the strongest criticisms
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of talk show hosts is very simply do your damn research.
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We saw this with Sean Hannity back during the Clive Bundy.
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Clive. Clive Bundy, Clyde Bundy.
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Yeah, Clyde Bundy thing. I've had occasions where I was
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not as prepared for something as I thought I was.
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My research wasn't up to and touching.
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I am fanatical about research. I really am.
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Yes, I have opinions, but my opinions have to be based on
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what's factual, what's actually here.
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And if I don't know, I will tell you.
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It's the ESPN thing. I don't know that that happened
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inside there. That's speculation on my part.
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It's a question that I ask myself, is this possible?
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Does the evidence support this? In this case, it does not.
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However, it also doesn't eliminate it.
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But when, when talk show hosts going the air and say things
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that are not factual, it pisses me off.
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It should piss you off. It should make all of us mad.
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It should make us mad for a couple of reasons.
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I used to get mad at Sean Hannity because Hannity's got a
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freaking staff of about a billion people.
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I made that up. It's probably 3, but he has
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staff to look up stuff for him. Stephen A Smith has staff to
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look up stuff for him. Most of us on here, right here
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on the On American Network, we're solo.
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We don't. We do all our own research.
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We do all our own production. We do.
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We're flying solo, folks, and we managed to get it done.
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These people who don't get it done, however, go on the air and
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say things like what Stephen A Smith said yesterday and just
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completely ignore reality, completely ignore what's what's
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available information. Smith could have discovered with
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minimal impact, minimal research, literally 30 seconds.
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He could have discovered that Johnson has been speaking
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publicly about depression and anxiety and had missed three
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games back in 2021 for mental health reasons.
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And in August of this past year of this year, Johnson had
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already indicated that this would be his final season.
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This he he's had enough. His mother has been diagnosed
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with Hodgkin's lymphoma and has discussed his father's need for
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support. All of these things were
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publicly discussed. Johnson Lane Johnson explained
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that these family circumstances were changing his priorities.
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And they damn well better if you're if if my family needed me
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more than you needed this podcast, guess who's going to
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win that? If my choice is between taking
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care of Ben, if Ben really needed me to be over there,
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that's where I would be because your priorities have to change
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based on those kinds of things. And of course, it didn't take
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long before people were weighing in on the fact that Stephen A
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Smith A didn't do his research, B ran his mouth, and C seemingly
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was trying to get people to go along with him.
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A former Eagles linebacker by the name of Emmanuel Acho
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publicly went on the air and just eviscerated Smith.
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It was great, insisting that the Eagles record, which is not bad,
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but it's not it's two and two. Who cares?
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Or is it one and three? I don't know.
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See, that's what point where I didn't do my research 'cause I
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don't follow the Eagles, but I know it's not 4 and O, how do I
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know it's not 4 and O, Stephen A Smith told me, no, I I know it's
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not 4 and O 'cause I watched them lose games.
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Ako publicly rejected Smith's interpretation.
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He insisted that the record had nothing to do with that.
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And there you go. The questions that Stephen A
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Smith just completely blew off didn't answer.
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He didn't actually talk about what Johnson had actually said.
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He didn't talk about what was already known.
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He didn't contact anybody at the Eagles for a clarification.
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And he had no evidence whatsoever that the retirement
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was connected to the two and two record.
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He he just didn't. The reporting for this whole
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thing is particularly revealing. In 2021, Stephen A Smith himself
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publicly disclosed his own devastating depression following
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his own mother's death, said that he spent three years, he
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actually said, enduring therapy. And in the later interviews he
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acknowledged that the grief had expect had affected his speech,
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his judgement, his compassion. It should.
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So Smith knows from personal experience that mental health
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can be affected and can affect your ability to work.
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That makes his decision, and a decision he made to ridicule
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Johnson's retirement, impossible to excuse.
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Stephen A Smith understood mental health perfectly well
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when it was Stephen A Smith's mental health.
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Somehow, though, that did not survive a trip to Philadelphia.
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And there you go. Every talk show host has
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thoughts that are funny inside of our own head.
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We believe me. You have no idea.
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My entire life is a running talk.
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It's a running podcast. It's a running radio show at
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constantly in my head. And there are things in my head
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that I think are just absolutely hysterically funny, but somehow
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between here my head and here my lips and there, that microphone,
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the translation just doesn't get there.
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Sometimes it does. Sometimes it's genuinely funny
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when it's spoken out loud. Sometimes they're not.
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And experience teaches you that that distinction matters.
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The microphone amplifies the judgment.
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There might be, let's see, eight people listening right now.
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By the time this thing is done, by the time this podcast is
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taken to this episode is finished, maybe 5000 will listen
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to it. Can't untake it.
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The microphone amplifies bad judgement just as effectively as
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good judgement. And so I have to be cautious.
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We all have to be cautious about what we say into that
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microphone. Being provocative is part of the
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business, folks. It just is.
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I cannot tell you how many times I've had that discussion with
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program directors. I had a program director who
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actually said to me, this is a quote, less Dave, more Sean.
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In other words, he wanted me to stop being reasonable, stop
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discussing things and just start yelling at people because that
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was provocative and it's part of the business.
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But being cruel is a choice. We can ridicule arguments, we
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can complain about a bad coaching decision.
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Don't get me started on those. A ridiculous front office move.
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Or you can do all of that without making somebody's mental
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health the punchline. And then you got to ask yourself
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some more questions. I do this for a living.
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Well, kind of. I understand the temptation to
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say something because it strikes me as funny, but I also
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understand that sometimes what sounds hilarious in my own head
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doesn't come out that way. And that's the line that we all
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have to watch because people are listening.
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The fact that I have a microphone does not mean that
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every thought in my head deserves an audience.
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Just because it can say something doesn't mean it
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should. And then we got this late
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yesterday. Well, my last subject matter on
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on on before we go to break. And that's what the retirement
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of Lane Johnson, offensive tackle extraordinaire for the
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Philadelphia Eagles, who's elected to retire.
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I'm sorry that when I was on television earlier this morning
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on First Take ESPN, every week they more from 10:00 AM to 12:00
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noon. My day job, people misconstrued
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me minimizing mental health. I would never do that.
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Hell, I had mental health issues.
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So was this an apology or was this a advertisement for his day
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job? That's what struck me is that
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from the instant, from the second he started his apology
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and that's how it's being reported, it was.
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You misconstrued what I was saying.
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I don't think we did his. His clarification was focusing
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on what he thought he intended rather than acknowledging, hey,
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my words sounded really bad and an explanation of intent does
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not erase the effect of what was said.
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That applies to everything. I don't care if you're
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apologizing for mocking somebody or for hurting your wife or
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something. Your explanation of intent is
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not an apology. He could have said that he
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acknowledged that he made an unsupported assumption, but he
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didn't. He could have recognized that
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the imitation itself was totally inappropriate.
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More importantly, he could have apologized directly and
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unequivocally. But instead he went Stephen A
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Smith and made it about himself. Look, I, I've, I admitted that
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Stephen A Smith is not my cup of tea, but he is one of the great
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sports commentators. Sean Hannity, Not my cup of tea,
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But you know what? The guy makes millions and he
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makes money for his company. I've always thought that Stephen
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A Smith is a great Stephen A Smith commentator who
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occasionally finds time to talk about sports, but this was
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something worse. It wasn't the usual shouting and
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self promotion. This was a man with an an
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enormous platform, extraordinary resources, and every opportunity
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to learn the actual facts, choosing instead to make another
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man's personal struggle part of his performance.
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And apparently nobody around him had enough influence or common
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sense to stop it. That's the real issue, isn't it?
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Stephen A Smith was already pretty low on my list of sports
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commentators. Like, I don't listen to him.
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After this, however, I think he's actually fallen even below
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Chris Collinworth, Chris Collinsworth, or Dave Portnoy.
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And that, my friends, is a depth I did not think was physically
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possible. podcasting radio you learn them
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too, but a long time since I actually sat down in a radio
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studio and did those kind of things.
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I I I do miss it in some ways, but in a lot of ways this is so
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much better for me. I mean, it just it just really
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is it it it it it's been an interesting few weeks.
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You will know that this on air across American network thing.
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This was born last summer and Bill and I were having a
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discussion and we started thinking about, OK, what could
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we do? What could we make this?
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And the idea, of course, is to grow this into not just us, it's
29:32
across America. And I've said this before, if
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you've ever wanted to do a podcast, if you think you've got
29:39
the chops to do a podcast, then drop me an e-mail Dave, at the
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Dave bowmanshow.com and we'll talk about how we can help you
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do those things. The tools that are available now
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are so much better than they were a year ago, five years ago,
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10 years ago. I started doing podcasting, pure
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podcasting in January of 2015, February of 2015, after I left
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radio in 20 January. And you know, back then it was a
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recorder basically and an XML file.
30:13
We didn't have video. We didn't have all this stuff.
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And, and I, and I'm not a huge fan of video, to be honest with
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you, but this is an audio medium.
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I try to make it sound like it's AM radio for me.
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Others take the approach of, you know, the camera is just a, a
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view into the, the world. But the tools we have available
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to us now are so much more than they they used to be.
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And I, I, I really think radio is changing.
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I really radio has changed. For those of you who don't know
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what's going on in the world of radio, not just AM talk radio,
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but radio in general, you know, there's a company out there.
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I'm not going to point any names or name, name names or point
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fingers. There's a company out there that
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runs this guaranteed human nonsense.
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Yeah, maybe they're using AI too, folks.
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AI has made this so that it can be easily done.
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And and you know my argument to people say, well, I don't want
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AI, I don't want AI. Did you enjoy the content?
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Because if you did, who cares if you didn't enjoy the content?
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Well, I didn't enjoy Stephen A Smith, and Stephen A Smith is
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not AI. So what's the difference?
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It really comes down to communication.
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It comes down to how does it make you feel?
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And AGM once who used to tell me that people listen to radio a
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certain way and they listen to podcasts in a similar way.
31:42
He said that radio, generally speaking, somebody is listening
31:46
alone and when they're listening to talk shows, they're talking
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back to you. So I always keep in mind that
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even as I'm speaking, there are people talking back to me.
31:55
I just can't hear them and sometimes they call and
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sometimes they text. The rule of thumb is about 1% of
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listeners will actually pick up the phone and call a show.
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Text machines will will bump that up.
32:08
So you'll get more participation that way.
32:11
E-mail is, don't even get me started on e-mail, but it's
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communication and whether that communication is an actual human
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being sitting here doing, talking a no microphone or
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whether it's a voice that has been created to communicate the
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information. As long as the information is
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communicated, that's what I'm about and it's what I will
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continue to be about. Yes, there will be AI involved.
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There has to be because I am not a radio company and I don't have
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the ability to pay people to do those things.
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If I did, maybe it's a different story.
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That's my dream, folks. My dream is if I ever won the
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lottery, I'm buying a building and I'm going to create an
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Internet readers everything that a radio station would have
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except that we broadcast on the Internet instead of on a tower.
33:04
So you wouldn't have that infrastructure cost.
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But consistency becomes the problem.
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When we started, when we started Podcast 99, we had I think 6
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shows. And the problem we ran into was
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consistency. Hey, you going to do your show
33:20
today? Hey, you going to do your show
33:21
today? Hey, you going to do your show
33:22
today. And oh, I have this, I have that
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because again, it's, it's a hobby.
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It's not, it's not my job. And so it's the biggest problem
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I have is getting a time slot where I'm available every day to
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do it at that time slot. And I just don't have that right
33:39
now. Sometimes I got to pick up Cami
33:42
at a certain time. Sometimes I got to take Ben to
33:44
appoint. Sometimes I have my own
33:45
appointments. I'm not going to be here
33:46
tomorrow probably, he said. It's possible that I will.
33:53
I actually have a show prep, but I got a places I got to be.
33:57
Well, I have time. I don't know because life gets
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in the way. But what I wanted to say to you
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is this on Air Across American Network is created for you.
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If you think that you want to do a podcast, we can remotely
34:14
record podcasts. We can do things off site.
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So if it's something you want to do and you're willing to commit
34:19
to it, the biggest thing is consistency.
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You're going to do it once a day, you're going to do it once
34:23
a week, or you're going to do it once a month, once a quarter,
34:26
whatever it is that you commit to, you got to be able to do
34:28
that. But if you can do that and you
34:31
want to do that, drop me an e-mail Dave at the Dave
34:33
bowmanshow.com and we will have a conversation about what we can
34:38
do to get you to join us here on the on air across American
34:43
network. Take the time right now.
34:45
Tell the people that matter in your life.
34:46
You love them very much. You'd miss them if they weren't
34:48
there. So don't pass up those
34:49
opportunities. You don't want to have that
34:52
regret plausibly live. I'm Dave Bowman, I hope I will
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see you tomorrow. The show is prepped.
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Just don't know if I'm going to be available to to actually sit
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down and do it. Maybe maybe I'll do it in a bit.
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Maybe I'll have AI Dave do it. I don't know.
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Either way, we'll we'll figure it out.
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Have a great day, everybody. We'll enjoy life and we'll see
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you next time right here for plausibly live,