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The IU Report with Grant Shouse & Mike Hutsell: Carolina Exhibition Reaction (3.95) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to the IE report with Grant Shouse and my cuddle.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's only on the central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Grant Shouse with my cuddle now on the IE report talking to basketball.
• 0:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to the football episode, where we recapped and reacted to Ohio State, beating Indiana last Saturday, go listen to it, it was a good one, because it was the first podcast we had done after Indiana had lost again.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: So the podcast was 22 and 0 entering the entering that game and finally lost one.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: So with basketball now, hopefully we're talking about some more positive things.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're Indiana beat North Carolina on Sunday in a neutral side at Gamebridge 76 to 58.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you watched the game mic.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was there Indiana looked pretty darn good.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: It raises optimism, I'm still guarded, I'm jaded at this point, but there is a lot, it makes you pay attention, it's certainly accomplished that if that was the goal.
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: The talent upgrade of this team is so substantially noticeable, versus where it was a year ago.
• 1:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: But another game where we talked about, we figured they would handle butler on the glass.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: We thought North Carolina would be a much different test, athletically with their bigs and see how they would do if they matched up with a team like that.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: They dominated another team on the glass.
• 1:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, that's how they ended up winning this game the way that they did because outside of one guy and we'll talk about him.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure at length here in a moment.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They really didn't shoot well at all, but they got extra positions, they got rebounds, they got to the line, at a substantially higher rate than North Carolina, and I think at all traces back, you'd just have dominant.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: This team has been on the glass, in that game in the game before it is why they're at such impressive exhibition performances today.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: The talent upgrade is significantly noticeable here.
• 2:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you outrebound the team 53 to 31 and the other teams coach after the game is pissed off because, you know,
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: He let you grab 20 offensive rebounds as team let you grab 20 offensive rebounds years set up for success Indiana like we said last week after the butler game went out and addressed the issues of The size were the lack of size in the lack of rebounding last year and now twice and granted it is exhibition season I understand and they're probably going to do it again on Sunday and probably again until they play someone with a little bit of a pulse
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to grab over probably 40 to 45 rebounds minimum every game in the non-conference against
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: mid-major teams, group of five teams and in these exhibitions against Butler and North Carolina over 50 rebounds in both games, 20 offensive rebounds on Sunday and two of your biggest additions in the portal, 8 in Churell and Sam at Yigatogaloo, both pull down 10 and 11 rebounds of
• 3:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know Sherrell's probably your best player out of the portal here, where he put up seven points on Sunday, but man, how about Bryce Lindsay out of Villanova, like we heard he was going to be a good player.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: We knew he would be able to come in and make an impact right away, but he put up 26 on the off the bench on Sunday had to come in for Marcus Burton, he got in early foul trouble like 27 minutes, but a 26 points for nine from three had a eat big heat check three.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think this team's going to be fun to watch if he can do that and other guys that are capable, you know, Burton's capable, probably Darren Harris is capable, even guys off the bench like Trevor Manhurts is capable.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know he didn't score on Sunday, but he's probably another capable one.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's very, very encouraging going into a season where there's still our some question marks lingering.
• 4:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you'd like to see maybe, like I said, better shooting overall, but
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: This team has guys, they're just going to be able to score multiple ways, which last year we talked about on the last pod, they just couldn't do.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: When Lindsey got going, they just kind of got out of his way and it reminded you a little bit of Lamar Wilkerson last year.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: He had well 18 in the first half, 19 in the first half.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: it was pretty apparent where the points were going to be coming from and they just went to it and it worked and it kept working and the lead just kept getting bigger and bigger.
• 5:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: But you could just watch the kid play.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like Darren Harris has a flame thrower game in him coming soon.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that guy is a very pure looking shot.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't go in as consistently on Sunday, but he was a shooter.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was known as a shooter coming out.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: He did play a whole lot of
• 5:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: He hit threes when he had a opportunity to do so.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the devries has already said, his green light is at 30.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: So knowing that's in the pocket, Burton has to stay out of foul trouble.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's been one concern of these first two games.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Is he's picked up early fouls in the first half, but that kid knows how to get to the basket and score, Jayden Moostoff and he's accepting the role.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: of the team's best perimeter defender, but he's also a guy that when shots aren't falling, you saw it a little bit on Sunday, he'll put the ball on the floor and he'll get to the line.
• 6:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And when he does that, then he's a very, very effective free throw shooter.
• 6:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: So you wanted to see the big man, maybe be a little more consistent, Sherrell did pop out and hit it three, which is a good sign, because teams aren't going to be
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: uh... submit he got punched in the face early look like a character out of a rocky movie the way swelled up but he didn't have a great day from the floor but
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Just that, you know, we talked, that's just a massive human man.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: He occupies so much space and if he's going to rebound consistently and if he's gets good-looking here at the rim, he'd normally pretty consistent on hitting those.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's ever going to be a really good free throw shooter, so hack a Senate maybe coming to the big ten who knows.
• 6:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's just so in the fun to watch a team that you know has multiple ways.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: of scoring rather than last year where if they play like they did against Marquette and they hit 233s in a game or whatever it was, they were the funnest team in college basketball to watch, but that was few and far between too many times last year.
• 7:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: One name you didn't mention, Sam Alexis had 10 points for rebounds, but seeing it in person and watching the eye tests, he was absolutely got awful in person, I thought, couldn't grab rebounds, couldn't finish at times.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Looked like he was out physical, and that's a little discouraging, especially for my guy that started a lot of the season last year.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: played a significant role and you weren't going to bring him back and they need to decide to bring him back and the court decided to bring him back.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's that's right.
• 8:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's clarify.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how it works nowadays.
• 8:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a little discouraging.
• 8:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you play about 16 minutes and that's probably what you're going to play this year.
• 8:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe 20 minutes off the bench potentially a starter at some point this season, I think.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Even with the rebounding concerns and with wanting to rebound the basketball.
• 8:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they want to try and go small with the three guards.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the five they started on on Sunday is North Carolina.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Probably who will start the season and probably who will play on the majority of the season to start the game.
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously Marcus Burton, jaded moustap and Darren Harris your guards and then.
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cheryl, you're kind of your stretch big and you get totally your center, but Cheryl being the stretch big is going to be big for them.
• 8:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's capable of stepping out and maybe shoot the three hit one on Sunday, but get him going a little bit, letting find a shot.
• 9:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be that'll be a big weapon for them.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I think this team, I think this
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: improved over the last year, obviously, and you can just see it early on in some aspects.
• 9:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're going to be able to see that really quick, especially when the real season opens up and then when big 10 play opens, I think they're going to be able to look like more of a competent, big 10 team that is going to be able to be at the top of the conference this year.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's talking about Indiana.
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's talking about Indiana so no, they're not and I made AP.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say I mean, I don't really necessarily think that's the worst position for any in a B and the A people came out yesterday in the year was 36th.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think.
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And among amongst the others receiving votes, they were the 11th team.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: So nobody's talking about this team as a top 25 team.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're coming
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably the best position for them to be.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And right now, go out and prove yourself.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got Eastern Illinois and Bellurman that first week.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Then you get an ACC team in Indianapolis and early chance to hang a P4 when on your resume, even if Syracuse has not been Syracuse the last few years and they have a new head coach coming in this year.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So we don't really know.
• 10:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: What to expect from them, maybe their expectations aren't that high, but hey, it's it's a win over a powerful opponent opportunity and then by the time you get to that weak replay Arkansas and Kentucky in the same week maybe you just really if you just keep steadily improving you go into that week and you really make a name for yourself and then people are talking about in the end so.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with where they're at.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I like that what I've seen so far, there's gonna be opportunities to get better.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: The offense didn't click on Sunday and they still won by 18 points.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good sign because before all of last year if Indiana can't shoot, well they also can't rebound and they can't defend.
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: So they're the team that probably loses by 18 points at this game took place last year.
• 11:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of a good to see them flip the script a little bit and actually be the team that when things didn't go perfectly still defend it at a high level and absolutely own the glass.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: and sort of 37 points off the bench.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know 26 of those were Bryce Lindsey, but it goes to show the depth that I think this team's gonna have with Bryce Lindsey coming off the bench at Trevor Manor, it's who's a true freshman and Samo Lexus who's gonna play a lot, especially I think it's gonna get a lot of minutes.
• 11:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think Prince Alexander Moody could play a lot this year at times.
• 11:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll think he's when you're gonna see set the bench most of the season.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then who knows about a guy like Bond Carvalet year?
• 12:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you'd have to imagine that this theme isn't just going to be able to rock, you know, six to seven guys.
• 12:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think they can put eight to nine guys in the game all in one game, especially in a conference game, and be just fine.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Now you'd like to see them get consistent and it's out of at least eight guys, because the big 10 schedule 20 games, it's such a grind.
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: That team last year just seemed like it was on fumes by the time it got to the end of the year because DeVries was largely going with about a six-man rotation.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like over the the waning course of the season and guys were going 37 and 38 minutes to go to UCLA.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: They play a double overtime game and.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, their legs just did not seem like they were there.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you watched at Ohio State Game last year where the season was on the line.
• 12:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you win that game.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're probably going to the tournament, but it was like they just weren't even in the gym.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that team just was just mentally gone at that point.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think they checked out.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: mentally, but I think they were just so exhausted and the way of that whole season, guys who were hurt were playing through things.
• 13:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so you'd like to see eight or night got eight or nine guys getting consistent.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's having a Lexus as your third big is a former starter in the big 10 is your backup big now.
• 13:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's that's that's an advantage in Yena hasn't had in years to bring that quality of her big off the bench.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: So
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to talk about this team too much.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: They still have to prove it on the court, but you're very encouraged by what you've seen from the pieces that have been put into place.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just, we'll just, we'll just say that.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I did get to meet Marty Brennan at the game.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Which was pretty cool.
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: That had to be cool.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was cool and it was, it was actually kind of funny how we even rise.
• 14:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was there is my buddy that was with me is probably the biggest Cincinnati red fan I know, like just a huge red fan like goes to ton of games and really loves the reds.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess.
• 14:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no kidding.
• 14:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're sitting there at half time and they do this thing.
• 14:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're on the video board.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You scan a QR code and you scan a QR code and you take a picture and the picture uploads.
• 14:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: The picture uploads to the, to the jumbo tron.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Marty Brennan and his wife did that, I guess.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And my buddy's sitting there and guess, that's Marty Brennan, I said, no, it's not.
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I looked at the picture, I go, why would he be here?
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not him.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he's dude, I swear that's Marty Brennan.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And wait till it comes back around, comes back around, and I look at it, I take picture of it.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, okay, I can't really tell.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, because he doesn't look the way he did, probably, you know, five, six, seven years ago, after he was done doing the red.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, he's aged.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I was like, okay, let me look up his wife.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So Google is wife.
• 15:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you could Google Marty Burnhamman's wife.
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Google Marty Burnhamman's wife in the lady that he never seen a red game because he's on every freaking commercial.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, not a red stand.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't watch every game.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I Google is wife and she pops up and I'm like, okay, that's him.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, all right, let's go, let's go try find.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we go to buddy goes up, talk, steam, whatever gets fixture taken.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I talk tank is, you know, he's in my line of work.
• 15:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: What I want to be, I want to be Marty Brennan one day, I guess.
• 15:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he super gracious, very down to earth, talked to us, wasn't it?
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't a dick or anything like that, just super, super grateful.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that was pretty cool.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're just hitting there like we walked away and we're like, man, who would have thought we would have had Marty Brennan at an IE basketball game of all places?
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's, I didn't realize it when you sent the picture, but I've learned since he is a Carolina grad.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: I did learn that too.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I learned a lot of things.
• 16:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: He grew up in in the Carolina's fire to becoming the Reds main guy, um, his son is a Buckeye fan.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: And his son also famously, there's a beef drive to write by Castiano's.
• 16:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just don't take that guy to Kansas City.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the buddy that was with me, ironically, claimed he was watching the game when Tom Brennan dropped the famous what we now know, kind of derailed his career a little bit.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And now he's just doing college football games on the CW.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: If I was still working in a newsroom, I guarantee I would have been watching that game because there was no chance that the guy I worked with was ever going to not let a Cincinnati
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: the 13 inch television we had in our newsroom so it's correct.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: I've heard the backdrop of so many bad Paul Wilson starts through the years that I probably would have been watching the game if I was still a regular newsroom.
• 17:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks Grant.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks Mike.
• 17:45
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• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, some days I have a birthday party or something, and it's just impossible.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some days there's just nothing talking about, but almost every day there's something to talk about.
• 18:11
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• 18:44
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