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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang and the club on nine
- 0:05Speaker 1: four seven.
- 0:07Speaker 2: So last week, I don't know if I can say this,
- 0:10Speaker 2: but I'm gonna say it. Ryan told us the story
- 0:13Speaker 2: about a family he knows where the sisters like, so
- 0:19Speaker 2: your mom and your aunt, correct, right, so quite elderly.
- 0:23Speaker 2: But the adults in the room, sisters were having a
- 0:26Speaker 2: back and forth and they're having a fight, and they
- 0:27Speaker 2: having a fight, and then the child who's about sixteen
- 0:31Speaker 2: years old, stepped in to be like, guys, come.
- 0:33Speaker 3: On, you know, like, you know, pipe, calm down now.
- 0:36Speaker 3: You don't need to you needn't need to be part
- 0:38Speaker 3: of this.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Aunt turns around and says, hey, why don't you keep quiet?
- 0:43Speaker 1: Did she tell you that you're adopted?
- 0:46Speaker 3: Like, in the heat of the moment, says something she
- 0:49Speaker 3: obviously shouldn't have said.
- 0:50Speaker 1: A terrible woman. That by the way, terrible woman.
- 0:54Speaker 2: But I was just like, no, this doesn't happen, and
- 0:56Speaker 2: Ryan said it happened. I said, no, this, this cannot happen.
- 0:59Speaker 2: That's not how peop but would find out if they adopted.
- 1:02Speaker 2: And Ryan was like, that's how it happened. Timidilly, why
- 1:04Speaker 2: you look at those smoke?
- 1:05Speaker 1: Oh, because this does happen. Guys.
- 1:07Speaker 4: That's why you must for family gatherings, always leave before
- 1:10Speaker 4: the arguments start if you don't want to hear something
- 1:14Speaker 4: that pertains to your existence. Because someone is like, oh,
- 1:18Speaker 4: you're the little peacemaker. Let me tell you about Frankie,
- 1:21Speaker 4: who you're defending.
- 1:23Speaker 1: So we had about what was biology.
- 1:26Speaker 5: Then a teacher at school who was telling us we
- 1:27Speaker 5: were learning genetics, and he said he had put his
- 1:30Speaker 5: foot on net and I don't know if it's true,
- 1:32Speaker 5: like how true the story is, but he said, you
- 1:34Speaker 5: can't have blue eyes if your parents have brown eyes.
- 1:38Speaker 1: We've both of them have by lines.
- 1:39Speaker 5: So he had yeah, so he has done this at
- 1:41Speaker 5: a previous school. And one of the kids of the
- 1:42Speaker 5: class put up their hand and said, but my eyes
- 1:44Speaker 5: are blue and both my parents have brown eyes. And
- 1:47Speaker 5: as a joke, you and all you're adopted Annie Buento
- 1:49Speaker 5: and he was adopted.
- 1:50Speaker 6: Oh is that true? From what?
- 1:54Speaker 5: I don't know if he was maybe just trying to
- 1:56Speaker 5: explain genetics to us, but we were all like.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Oh, give that teacher not attain for creative writing. If
- 2:01Speaker 2: it's not true, I'm going to believe the story. I'm
- 2:04Speaker 2: gonna go ahead and believe it. Let's put it to
- 2:05Speaker 2: the test.
- 2:06Speaker 4: If you've got blue eyes and both your parents have
- 2:08Speaker 4: brown eyes, please this afternoon, how quick can you get
- 2:11Speaker 4: to a Lancet laboratory and ask stop?
- 2:15Speaker 7: Oh?
- 2:16Speaker 2: One one eight thirty eight ninety four seven. Which brings
- 2:19Speaker 2: me to this conversation that I'd like to have.
- 2:21Speaker 1: How did you find out you were adopted?
- 2:24Speaker 6: Yeah? This is obviously a sensitive matter.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think some people are very open
- 2:28Speaker 3: about I have friends who have adopted, and they've been
- 2:31Speaker 3: very open with the kids about it.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I think that's how I would do it if I
- 2:34Speaker 2: ever had to go to the adoption route, I would
- 2:36Speaker 2: tell that kid from word from the time that they're
- 2:39Speaker 2: old enough to understand.
- 2:40Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that you know what.
- 2:41Speaker 2: Some some kids come biologically, but some of some gifts
- 2:44Speaker 2: from God really do not come that way. But you
- 2:46Speaker 2: are here now, and you are lowed. Do you know
- 2:49Speaker 2: what I'm saying. I think i'd go that way because
- 2:51Speaker 2: I know my families.
- 2:53Speaker 4: But I get why some parents may not want to
- 2:55Speaker 4: tell the kids, especially if you, let's say, adopt an infant,
- 2:58Speaker 4: do you know what I mean? Where they they don't
- 3:00Speaker 4: know of any other parent, any other family, and maybe
- 3:04Speaker 4: you're thinking you don't want them to live with the
- 3:07Speaker 4: questions about the biological parents. Why do they give me
- 3:10Speaker 4: up at this longing that some people actually live with
- 3:13Speaker 4: into adulthood and eventually try to find their biological parents.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Do you not think more damage is done when you
- 3:19Speaker 2: find out and you're thirty two and you guys are
- 3:20Speaker 2: in a fight and somebody tells you that you adopted.
- 3:22Speaker 6: I wouldn't tell anyone. Well, yes, I think more damage
- 3:26Speaker 6: is done.
- 3:26Speaker 3: But I can see how this happens because I think
- 3:28Speaker 3: a lot of parents, if you, especially like timically says,
- 3:30Speaker 3: if you're adopting a baby that does it's not an
- 3:34Speaker 3: issue until the baby is much older. So you guys
- 3:37Speaker 3: just leave it because you're like, ah, we'll deal with
- 3:39Speaker 3: it later. And then sixteen, at sixteen, the uncle says something,
- 3:43Speaker 3: and now it's as yeah.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Like, well, some kids, we don't tell you that your
- 3:47Speaker 4: dad is a dead beet, just so he died, Remember
- 3:50Speaker 4: that's what you want? Oh yeah, true, you did when
- 3:52Speaker 4: you're with two. Meanwhile, he's a deadbeat.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Oh one one, eight thirty eight, nine four seven.
- 3:58Speaker 1: How did you find out were adopted? Or somebody you
- 4:01Speaker 1: know close to you was.
- 4:02Speaker 2: It a conversation that was had with them from word goal.
- 4:04Speaker 2: So by the time they were three four years old
- 4:06Speaker 2: old enough to understand, they knew that mommy and daddy
- 4:09Speaker 2: are not the mummy and daddy. You know that is
- 4:11Speaker 2: the same for many other children?
- 4:13Speaker 1: Or was it a secret? And then now you're there.
- 4:17Speaker 2: You know, first in rugby, and you find out you
- 4:20Speaker 2: don't you break a tone, you need a blood trumspart
- 4:23Speaker 2: and they're like, no.
- 4:24Speaker 6: Not gonna happen.
- 4:25Speaker 2: Mommy and daddy are not the ones zero eighty four
- 4:28Speaker 2: double zero double zero nine four seven. And another conversation
- 4:31Speaker 2: to have around this is if you were in that situation,
- 4:34Speaker 2: when do you think you would tell the child from
- 4:36Speaker 2: word go or would it just be something you give
- 4:40Speaker 2: them on their twenty first birthday?
- 4:42Speaker 3: I don't know, like, yeah, obviously we were talking about
- 4:44Speaker 3: an extreme example. Yeah, but maybe you would just want
- 4:46Speaker 3: to tell us how your parents told you that you
- 4:48Speaker 3: were adopted?
- 4:49Speaker 6: Right? What does that and what happened? What was the process?
- 4:52Speaker 1: Call text? What'spp all of it? We are very interested
- 4:54Speaker 1: promise you.
- 4:55Speaker 8: I had a Collie hit a couple of years ago
- 4:58Speaker 8: who's parents had both sadly coasted and he was trying
- 5:02Speaker 8: to immigrate to go overseas and through the immigration process
- 5:09Speaker 8: found out that actually he was adopted.
- 5:12Speaker 9: I was adopted when I was a baby. My mother
- 5:15Speaker 9: told us when I was about maybe twelve thirteen. I
- 5:18Speaker 9: can't exactly remember what HL was, and she told me,
- 5:22Speaker 9: if I want to look for my biological mother, I
- 5:27Speaker 9: can do that. I think after when I was eighteen,
- 5:30Speaker 9: I was looking for it, and I met it when
- 5:33Speaker 9: I was twenty seven.
- 5:35Speaker 6: It's a long time to look for someone well.
- 5:37Speaker 1: And that's another thing now.
- 5:39Speaker 2: I just think it just becomes your focus and it
- 5:41Speaker 2: consumes you, right. And I think that's why a lot
- 5:43Speaker 2: of parents don't tell their kids that they are adopted,
- 5:46Speaker 2: because sooner or later, the age will be there where
- 5:48Speaker 2: you just want to I want to talk to them.
- 5:50Speaker 2: I want to find out what these circumstances was for
- 5:52Speaker 2: them to, you know, you know, give me up for
- 5:55Speaker 2: me to be adopted.
- 5:57Speaker 3: A friend of mine's adopted and he doesn't care to
- 5:59Speaker 3: do that at oor. Yeah, his parents are his parents
- 6:03Speaker 3: stands up there.
- 6:03Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been forty years.
- 6:05Speaker 2: You'll be good out there, exactly. You'll be good out there, Vanessa.
- 6:09Speaker 2: You and Rutapen, you say you were adopted at three
- 6:11Speaker 2: days old.
- 6:13Speaker 7: Good morning, then Millia in the class.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Good morning, Vanessa, have been Monday.
- 6:18Speaker 7: I'm good in you relaxed.
- 6:21Speaker 1: There's nothing happy about this Monday lex. Come on, girl,
- 6:23Speaker 1: come back, come all the.
- 6:26Speaker 7: Way Monday A minute.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Okay, Vanessa, you were three days old. You gotta you
- 6:35Speaker 2: were giving up your parents adopted you when you're three
- 6:38Speaker 2: days old.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Oh well, you must have been so cute, that's correct.
- 6:40Speaker 7: So I was actually born in Dubin and brought up
- 6:43Speaker 7: three days old to Joe book.
- 6:45Speaker 1: Okay, okay, and when when? When were you told you
- 6:48Speaker 1: were adopted?
- 6:50Speaker 7: So funny enough. When I was in grade six or seven,
- 6:54Speaker 7: we had counselors at school that were talking about adoption.
- 6:58Speaker 7: And I came home and I said to my mom,
- 7:00Speaker 7: you know, how do kids do this? And then my
- 7:03Speaker 7: mom asked me questions about adoption, whether it affects me,
- 7:06Speaker 7: and then she realized that she needs to call in
- 7:08Speaker 7: the family and tell me. So I found out in
- 7:10Speaker 7: grade seven.
- 7:11Speaker 2: And okay, when you say calls in the family, who
- 7:14Speaker 2: was they at that moment?
- 7:16Speaker 7: So my uncle, my aunt's just the immediate family that
- 7:20Speaker 7: knew about it.
- 7:21Speaker 2: Okay, And did you have siblings who weren't adopted, so
- 7:26Speaker 2: we were eight biological siblings.
- 7:28Speaker 3: I was the sixth No, no, no, so your your
- 7:32Speaker 3: adoptive parents.
- 7:34Speaker 7: No no, I'm the only child.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Okay, all right, And how did you feel about it?
- 7:40Speaker 7: I was quite excited. I was happy. I think because
- 7:44Speaker 7: of the counseling session I had. It never really affected
- 7:46Speaker 7: me and I never really had the drive to go
- 7:49Speaker 7: look for my biological parents.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Okay, but you but you know you have enough information
- 7:54Speaker 2: about them to know that your biological parents had eight children.
- 7:57Speaker 1: I do.
- 7:58Speaker 7: They also stay in Durban. Funny enough. My parents used
- 8:02Speaker 7: to take me to Chapel Center and my biological dad
- 8:06Speaker 7: was a car god and apparently I used to give
- 8:08Speaker 7: him money and I never knew that.
- 8:10Speaker 6: Whow So you actually have made them, but you don't
- 8:12Speaker 6: know you didn't know?
- 8:14Speaker 7: Yes?
- 8:15Speaker 2: Yes?
- 8:15Speaker 1: And now do you have kids?
- 8:18Speaker 4: I know?
- 8:18Speaker 7: Not yet and I'm still rolling the single lives.
- 8:21Speaker 2: God, don't fly that flag, fly that flag, Vanessa.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Have you met your your biological siblings or not not yet?
- 8:32Speaker 7: Frankie, not yet?
- 8:33Speaker 2: But aren't you scared you're gonna end up dating them?
- 8:37Speaker 7: Not at all, Not at.
- 8:38Speaker 10: All, not at all.
- 8:40Speaker 7: I think I think there should be some resemblance somewhere.
- 8:44Speaker 1: Hey Michael, we've watched movies.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Vanessa, We've watched movies.
- 8:50Speaker 1: My husband and I look like siblings. I'm just gonna put.
- 8:52Speaker 7: It out there right now, if I ever crossed that bridge,
- 8:56Speaker 7: you will be the first to know.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Just just be careful with your goods. That's all I'm saying.
- 9:03Speaker 7: No, definitely, Nissa, Thank you.
- 9:05Speaker 1: So much for the call. This was very special.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Thank you for your own having We love you by
- 9:11Speaker 2: Pluss bronwen Here.
- 9:12Speaker 11: I was adopted from birth. My parents were very open
- 9:17Speaker 11: with myself and my sister. We knew from as soon
- 9:20Speaker 11: as we could understand that we were adopted. At the
- 9:24Speaker 11: age of thirty two, I decided to seek out my
- 9:30Speaker 11: birth mom and I found her and if I had
- 9:35Speaker 11: to adopt, I would be very honest with my child.
- 9:39Speaker 7: I'm adopted, and I found out by my grandmother actually
- 9:43Speaker 7: when I was old enough, about five years old, and
- 9:47Speaker 7: I kept telling my parents Mom and.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Dad, and she pointed out, they're not your parents.
- 9:51Speaker 12: Why do you call them that?
- 9:53Speaker 1: Well, you're gonna die.
- 9:55Speaker 7: They disowned her for a bit and told her to
- 9:57Speaker 7: get her act together before coming back. And it was
- 10:01Speaker 7: actually part of experience.
- 10:04Speaker 1: What a witch.
- 10:05Speaker 6: That's terrible.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Good morning, Josh and Alberton. Welcome to an Alien the Club.
- 10:11Speaker 12: Morning morning.
- 10:12Speaker 6: How are you guys?
- 10:13Speaker 1: Good Josh, how are you like? A?
- 10:16Speaker 12: Thanks?
- 10:17Speaker 1: So tell us when did you find out you were adopted?
- 10:21Speaker 5: So?
- 10:21Speaker 12: My mom was also very open from the word go
- 10:25Speaker 12: told me straight away from what I can understand, and yeah,
- 10:32Speaker 12: probably about five six?
- 10:35Speaker 1: Okay? And how old are you now?
- 10:38Speaker 12: I'm now city one.
- 10:39Speaker 2: And let's say you had to adopt, when would you
- 10:42Speaker 2: tell the kids? Would you follow your mom's route of
- 10:44Speaker 2: five six?
- 10:45Speaker 6: Or yeah?
- 10:45Speaker 1: Okay? Why do you think that?
- 10:47Speaker 12: Is it just it just helps because it is a
- 10:51Speaker 12: it's not an immediate traumatic response, but it is traumatic
- 10:55Speaker 12: for the child to learn, you know, you're not my
- 11:00Speaker 12: real parents paraphrase.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Because also, I think when you find out later in life,
- 11:05Speaker 2: it's it's it's never it's people weaponizing it. It's somebody
- 11:10Speaker 2: like setting scores, it's somebody trying to hurt you.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying.
- 11:13Speaker 3: I can imagine it, because you can feel betrayed if
- 11:16Speaker 3: you find out later. And ye, because now we've been
- 11:18Speaker 3: living this, we've.
- 11:19Speaker 6: Been living a lie. We haven't been living a lie.
- 11:21Speaker 3: We're still a family, normal family, as with every family.
- 11:24Speaker 3: But I can imagine that you're like, oh, this is
- 11:26Speaker 3: the thing you could have told me, Mom.
- 11:28Speaker 12: Yeah, because then it also makes you question a lot
- 11:30Speaker 12: of other things. Yes, parents telling us to be open
- 11:34Speaker 12: and honors to seek this, but by not telling us,
- 11:37Speaker 12: it's a long less.
- 11:38Speaker 2: And also I believe there's a lot of things you
- 11:40Speaker 2: will keep to yourself right as a child, but.
- 11:42Speaker 1: It irks you.
- 11:43Speaker 2: But sometimes your parents are tall and you are short. Right, Oh,
- 11:48Speaker 2: they've got certain noses and you don't have it.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And you you go your whole life like, I wonder
- 11:52Speaker 1: why I'm not like this?
- 11:53Speaker 2: I wonder and it's like a niggli think that's at
- 11:55Speaker 2: the back of your mind. And then you find out
- 11:57Speaker 2: later in your forties that you were adopted.
- 11:59Speaker 1: So then you then you backtrack and.
- 12:01Speaker 2: You're just like, oh, but on that time and in
- 12:02Speaker 2: this time, and so much makes sense and they could
- 12:04Speaker 2: have just told you from word go.
- 12:08Speaker 12: But at your mo mom had a different state of
- 12:10Speaker 12: fears when it came to the whole adoption thing. She
- 12:16Speaker 12: was scared that I date my sister.
- 12:19Speaker 1: See now that's a that's another thing.
- 12:22Speaker 3: And have you, Josh, have you that your sister. Okay, sorry, Josh,
- 12:29Speaker 3: you're back. We lost you there for a second. Have
- 12:32Speaker 3: you dated your sister?
- 12:34Speaker 12: No, I have definitely not dated my sister.
- 12:37Speaker 2: You keep that up, Josh, Yeah, yeah.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Thank you, Josh.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Clodia and Orbington, good morning, good morning.
- 12:47Speaker 1: How are you were good? Clordia, how are you fine?
- 12:50Speaker 10: Thank you? You say.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Very go for it.
- 12:55Speaker 10: I'm saying that I think is a myth. Really, myself
- 13:00Speaker 10: both my son is green eyes.
- 13:04Speaker 2: Say that again, you're breaking yourself and your ex husband.
- 13:08Speaker 10: We both have brown eyes, and my daughter has blue
- 13:12Speaker 10: eyes and my son has green eyes.
- 13:14Speaker 6: Uh huh oh.
- 13:15Speaker 2: But Frankie actually did the research and it's apparently the
- 13:17Speaker 2: other way around.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Hey, frank well, I don't know about research. I just
- 13:20Speaker 3: did a perfunctly google search. Chat you no, I google this,
- 13:26Speaker 3: let me just quickly find I want to find it again.
- 13:29Speaker 3: So apparently, like you say, the brown eyes thing is
- 13:32Speaker 3: not true. You can with two brown eyes, you can
- 13:34Speaker 3: have all the color eyes absolutely. Then with a blue
- 13:38Speaker 3: and a brown eye you you won't have green eyes,
- 13:42Speaker 3: is apparently the thing.
- 13:43Speaker 6: And then with.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Two blue eyes, having a brown eyed baby is very rare,
- 13:49Speaker 3: and a green eyed baby is very but now once
- 13:51Speaker 3: again I would I would check this research.
- 13:54Speaker 2: I'm just googling it, but luckily telling us that she
- 13:57Speaker 2: is literally the proof that that thing is.
- 13:59Speaker 3: A exactly two brown eyes, blue eyed baby. And your son.
- 14:02Speaker 3: You said your son is green eyes.
- 14:04Speaker 10: My son's got green eyes.
- 14:06Speaker 6: It's possible, ray, but possible.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Hi guys, black person over here, Yes, brown eyes all
- 14:11Speaker 2: around the side.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Thank you, say you by.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Now it's back to making your morning in La and
- 14:20Speaker 2: the Club on nine four seven