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VOICES FROM BEHIND HE WALLS OF TDCJ_ · DA CREW Podcast

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Ah, person nurses, all things and what they used to be. Where
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you all the blue sky's but boys and store blues from the north from some
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things, well, persons, all things and what they used to know.
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But hey, hey, y'all, hey, y'all, hey, y'all,
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come on in, Come on in, come on in. I want to
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thank you guys for joining me on this Monday. It is another Monday afternoon
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and I am here with We have Jane to gate again, y'all. I
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told you as many times as I can allow him to come on and share
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what's going on inside of TDCJ. I definitely want to bring him on and
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allow him that opportunity to share. It's been brought to my attention. Y'all
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know it is getting hot out there, and y'all know that these prisons are
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nothing but a lot of them are nothing but like warehouses. And y'all know
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how warehouses are very hot in the summertime and very cold in the winter time.
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But that's what they're dealing with. And right now we're having individuals that
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are going to the hospital falling out whatever because they do not have proper air
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conditioning and proper things to keep them cool. They don't have. The major
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complaint that I get is they have the ones that do have fans. They
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said it does no good because it's just circulating the hot air and it just
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keep passing the hot air. I was told, and I've read several documents
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saying that they're supposed to be a place that is available twenty four hours a
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day, seven days a week, all at all times doing this hot weather.
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That is supposed to be a cool like a cooling station or something that
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they supposed to have set up in these places. Well, I have been
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told that they are not available in a lot of the prison systems, and
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then the ones that are available, they are not letting them go to it.
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So we have someone that is firsthand in the midst of what's going on.
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So you don't hear that he says, she says stuff you hear firsthand
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from someone that is right there inside of one of these facilities and can tell
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you from their first hand knowledge of what's going on and what they deal with
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on a day to day basis. Now we may talk about everything, so
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this may go an hour. Little high ever, loan we can stay on
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here and get this stuff out. The more we do this the more people
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become aware of what's going on behind these prison walls. And not only that,
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if you hear this, if you come across this, even if you
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come on the live, if you're hearing it as a replay, please share
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this out to someone in your circle of influence, because you never know what
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the next person may be need in need of. That person may have someone
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that is incarcerated and needed to hear this, or they may be in a
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position where they can share this with somebody that can help. So y'all share
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this out and make awareness of what's going on. So, mister Legate,
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if you would please introduce yourself to those that may not know who you are.
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I know you've been on several times. I call you my resident podcast
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or because anytime I open the door, you're always willing to come on and
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share. The floor is yours at this time? Okay, all right,
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athel I thank you for having me back, and thank you audience time.
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My name is James Legated and I'm currently housed at from a common unit in
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Vivio, Texas. At the moment, the unit was placed on a on
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a lockdown. In other words, we went on lockdown. Maybe the twentieth
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and h some saying this pradics. I'm saying it's a semi annual lockdown.
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But was surprising to me is during the time the heat. Actually we've never
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gotten down at this time. So right now you have so many incidents that
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are happening. Just five days after we on lockdown. On the twenty fifth
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you had a silly Stappy Shelley and kilt him or the due to the heat
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agitation or was it between whatever the senaria is it. I mean, the
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problem we're sure of staff as it is, I think right now if you
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look at it, we're like at thirty percent, so you're talking about maybe
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eighty to ninety offenders per officer, and that is uncalled for. They can't
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even deal with their own operational and safety procedures. It's crazy because on May
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eighth, TDTG re bin it its administrative director of ten sixty four, which
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is a publicies that concerned extensive extreme temperature conditions in GDCJ that goes into effect
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every year between April fifty to October thirtieth and stakes, among other things,
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every reasonable effort shall be made to prevent injuries related to accessive or extreme temperatures
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in TDTJ. For this reason, the administration has a duty to work closely
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with the healthcare staff to immediately at in the playoff enders of risk from accessive
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and extreme temperatures. The policy further indicate that inmates may be permitted to request
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access to so called reach type areas, which is are air conditioned areas that
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inmates can access to cool down and is available to every custody level from seven
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days to week twenty four hours a day. They're also supposed to get cold
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water like cold showers, have access to all this, however, shuts this
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lockdown. The buildings three doll be four buildings, seven building, eight buildings.
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They have not been able to have respite. Every time they have for
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a rest, they're told nobody can't give it to you more short of staff.
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Well, this is not what the policy states. The policy clearly shows
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that they have a right for rest, but which if they're having some kind
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of heat type of incident and they're feeling bad or they're really like falling out,
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they're supposed to contact the supervisors and give them this information so that they
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can take the press proper measurements to take take them into a wrist By area.
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Because of the shortage of staff, they cannot even go and do security
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rounds. They can't go and check on the offenders how they're doing. Because
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they're not doing that. They're not even the cold water. They're bare to
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even giving them showers like they're supposed to do on the lockdown situation. They're
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supposed to give them showers, but because they're so short in other words,
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short, I'm saying that each building only has two officers. There's three tickets,
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three pep ponds in each in each building, so there's no ticket boss,
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there's no floor boss. There's only a death box and another boss that's
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with a make normany a sergeant. But what's happening is they're using inmates to
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do their job. In other words, they're giving their inmates to pass on
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john East, which are snack punches. They're they're using them to uh to
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uh do everything. Basically, they'll go do one count and normally, and
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I've seen this ferhand, they'll send an inmate to go do a second count.
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In other words, instead of them doing their job what they're getting paid
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for, they're having inmates do their job for them. They're just crazy I've
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never seen anything like this. I've been going on twenty six years, and
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the system it's had enough that I'm here for something tonight and do. But
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that's this is this is ridiculous. Like I said, I've never seen this.
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There's a new culture, a new a new way. But in a
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way, what can that what happens when you complain, when you go to
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the war and when you reach out and you complain to different people about what's
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going on, Because like you say, this is not your first rodeo,
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you've been there for over twenty six years. Well, you've been there for
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twenty six years, so you you've had an opportunity to see how things operate.
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How long have you been in this particular facility? Well, I guess
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is the first time I've been in one just like here. No, no,
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how well, no, no, I'm asking how how long have you
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been in this particular facility or have you been in the same facility since?
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Have you done all twenty six of your years in the same facility? Oh
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no, No, I've been on this unit going on twelve years. I've
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been on this year twelve years. And uh, out the twelve years you've
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had shortened and step, but not just that as is now rich areas.
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They have signs all over the unit. You know, access to rids by
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go to the law Lianbrary, go to the medical, go to the school,
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go to the regular library. You can be placing segregation. Any place
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that had air conditioning, you're supposed to go and there is no no uh
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no time frame. Another words is if I'm feeling real bad right now,
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I should be able to go to medical or any one of those fistfight areas
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and I'll say if I want what you see. But they're not doing this.
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They're not allowing offenders from the buildings situ in you that I got firsthand
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word from a guy that we spoke with because we went to medical and he
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was there and he said, hey, you know I keep on no lead
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me out for risk, and then he go take my shower. You're not
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giving the showers, you're not doing nothing. So when they passed out,
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Johnny said, one particular sergeant opened the door. Well, he came out
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and he said, look, I want to take my shower. So she
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left him out. You know. So then by by three days later he
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wounded up getting the case because he said he was out of place, and
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all he said, all try getting nothing. They getting known. So another
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person also got sued to the hospital because of he related u uh illness and
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uh. I mean it's getting it's getting crazy. It's like if they ain't
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have no concerns for their own policy. I've read numerous and numerous cases where
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people have filed because they're not giving them risks. But even though you know,
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at this point, at this point, at this point, I feel
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like they are violating y'all rights. I feel like this is exactly it's inhumane.
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It is. It is over whatever it's supposed to. I mean,
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because they're they're supposed to. I mean literally, they have had years two
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to make wrong these to make right these wrongs that they've done for years.
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They have known that they've had these shortage of staff issues, they've had these
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no air conditioning issues. Because this is not something new, So it's not
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like we introducing something new. This is something that has been going on for
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you could probably say a decade, because this has been going on for at
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least ten years. Because I can look back and see reports and and different
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articles and newspapers and on the website about people dying in TDCJ because of the
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heat, people passing out, and and and just all kinds of stuff because
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of the heat and because of shortness of staff. So it's not like this
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is something new. You know, individuals already have lawsuits out because of the
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conditions of the facilities and how they have done for a while. So well,
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why don't all of you guys just come together and and and tile action
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a class action lawsuit against TDCJ for not providing y'all with with air conditioning,
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And y'all can provide these things. Y'all can provide how many people have had
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to go to the hospital, how many people have and get the ones that
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have had to go to the hospital, get them involved, Get those that
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have have been denied restless that's been denied access to these things, to get
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them involved. Because if y'all continue to not say nothing, I know they
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may retaliate. That's why we are documenting all this stuff. That's why we're
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doing these lives. That's why we're doing this stuff so people can hear this
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so when when when they start retaliate, we can go back and say,
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well, hey, this is what we did on this day. On six
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on June third, at two twelve, we did a live, we recorded
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this, We talked about this on the live, and we talked about what
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we was gonna do, and nothing was going on prior to that. And
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after we talked about what we was gonna do and what we did, then
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this is what happened. Now we got to start, we got to start
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beating these people at their own game, because this is what they do.
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They put out these these things and place, but then they want to throw
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it back at us and say, oh, we're not going by the law,
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we're not going by the policy, we're not going by this, we're
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not going by this. It's not falling under that. Well, y'all change
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it, and then y'all not about and by it. And then when we
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say something about it, then we are the ones that are causing the problems.
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And that's a problem with me right right, And you know, believe
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it or not, numerous numerous defense have all complaints about it. And when
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they follow us, the only thing they do is they move from their conditioned
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area. So they're saying, well, look, we've already moved in.
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We solved the problem. The case is posed, what the fact of the
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matter. Okay, well, what about everybody else? But what about everybody
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else? You you can't when everybody else? What about everybody else? Everybody
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else that complain? You can't move everybody because if you move everybody else,
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somebody else gonna have to come back to right where you move that person from.
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Everybody can't go to these areas because if everybody could be in these areas,
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then won't you think that that's what these people should be. And and
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my thing is, if you can provide air conditioning over in those areas,
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then why you can't provide air conditioning in the whole building? What? What?
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What? What? What? What is causing y'all to not provide air
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condition in the whole building? Now, See when I when I thought that
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y'all didn't have a conditioning period, I didn't think that y'all had a conditioning
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period. That means nobody had a conditioning. Now that is in humane for
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certain parts of the building to have air conditioning the rest of it don't,
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because that to me is just crazy because if you can put a conditioning on
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one side, a conditioning can be on the other side. That that that
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that makes no sense. So why are y'all doing that? Well? You
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know, they had a bigger controversy because they found that gd G were housing
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a bunch of pigs and giving period air conditioning. But they don't give this
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right now, that's just cure. And it's actually followed another lawsuit and trying
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to get the whole system line air conditions. They've been trying to do this.
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In fact, I read it and the San Antonio Express us on I
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think it was the twenty four of eight for I believe it was May or
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April. I have the article there somewhere, and but they're trying to get
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it air conditioned again. And you see it's like if it's not here,
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if you look at it, if you cultures, there's a lot of these
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guys kids or that they don't know anything about filing griefs. It is going
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with the flow and just falling out or fighting and doing what they got to
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do just to survive. I mean, if they don't know, if they
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don't know, then y'all need to start teaching them as people that have been
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there. I mean, y'all need to start breaking it down to them and
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letting them know, hey, this is what's gonna happen if you don't I
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mean if you don't want, if you don't want to better the environment or
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one day go home, then then that's on you. But everybody needs to
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be trying to come together and trying to That's why you know, I don't
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get it. Yeah, you know, I mean and here, you're right,
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I mean, you know, we used to be able to do the
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fewer the US used to have a bunch of grievances. How are you gonna
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do it? But a lot of them are afraid of retaliation. They don't
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want to deal with this. They say no because I don't want to get
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moved or I don't want it to happen. And you know, I don't
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need them to move me here or move me there. And and right now,
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like I said, I'm in the dorms right and even even in the
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dorms, you know, we're more open. I have access to a cold
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shower, and I have two fans. But like you said earlier, these
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two fans, all they do is circulate hot here. That's all it does,
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because there's no circulation in here. So of course we have to free
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are less because we get to get up and go take a shower. But
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my concern is the building. You just don't have the same access, especially
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during lockdown. And during lockdown you have them stuck in the cell. And
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and it's a small cell. When you if you take out the box,
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you take out the table, you pick out the the restroom seat, uh
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unit, you take those down, it becomes a bigger corner. But when
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you add all that to there, it's really a small living space. See
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I'm saying, you either gott to fan your bux or you and you takesack
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a force or sit on the table. So eventually you and your silling,
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you're gonna get into it. It's gonna it's causing a hostile environment. And
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now inmates what they're doing, and when they pass out these Johnny snacks,
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they're normally just throwing under the door, like if the person's an animal,
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they say, hey, look we can't get the door open. You want
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you Johnny or now you're they're gonna throw it under the door. I'm not
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gonna give it to you. So what choice do they have. So whenever
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they do come up, of course it's gonna be an altercation between the guy
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and the cell and the guy that was attacking, not the Johnny. Eventually
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something's gonna happen. She ain't. It's not supposed to be like this.
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So when you try to bring a bunch of these yulptures and you're trying to
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show them you know what they need to do, someone are very reluctant.
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You know what I'm saying. To listen, And it's not like way back
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in the day they called her giving another one giving them some school. Uh.
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Now you're trying to school somebody and it's like a new way. It's
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a whole different, different category of offenders, you know what I'm saying.
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And I'm not change that they don't want change because a lot of them talk
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about change, but a lot of them are also like literally about it because
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they don't want the precautious to hit behind them. A lot of people say
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that they ain't gonna retaliate them. I mean, it's either one way.
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Either either you won't change or you don't want change. It ain't you won't
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change, but you don't want that the results of what may happen with the
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change, Because if we as people that are out here trying to be that
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change, if we worried about what may happen because we're standing up and we're
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aving k do you think those people that stood that march, those people that
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that did broke these picket lines, you think these people that helped these signs,
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these people that cross these bridges, do you think they worried about what
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could have happened to them if they did this? No, they did it
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and then they suffered the consequences later on. You know, that's what you
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do as somebody that believes in what you're doing. If you believe in that
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that you're doing, you have to stand up for it and you have to
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not bow down. See that's what that's what's wrong with a lot of us.
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We don't stand up for things that we believe in, and we've continue
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to follow for whatever people giving us. They give us this and they say
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that this is what this is supposed to happen, and this is how this
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is supposed to happen. And that's what we do, and that's what we
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allow. We don't stand up and be a voice for ourselves. We don't
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speak up when we know that real right and we know that we have been
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violated, we know that these things should not be and that's what has happened.
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I'm talking about generation after generation after generation and I'm just gonna speak for
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me and a brown person because we have allowed people to over to tell us
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what to do, to give us orders, and to tell us what we
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were not capable of, and to tell us what place we should be in
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for years for decades. Well that those those days are over because we have
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people here that know who they are, believe in who they are, know
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the skin that they're in, happy in the skin that they're in, and
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will stand up and defend the skin that they're in. And you're looking at
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one, you're hearing one because let me tell you one thing you will not
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do. You will not walk over me. You will not walk over anyone
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around me. That's not that's not gonna happen. And I've come to realize
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if I won't change in this world, I can't just talk about it.
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I got to be out here and be about it. So guess what I
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do. These boys and I and I and I bring these things before people.
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Because all these people that are saying that this is what they're doing,
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and this is what they're doing, what's show me what you're doing. Show
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me show me the last time you went down to the state Capitol and helped
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up a sign and stood in front of these people and told these people what
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was going on. When was the last time you voted? When was the
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last time you truly allowed your voice to speak? Because when in the state
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of Texas, I'm hearing where single digits are turning out to the polls.
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How can you have single digits turning out to the pole when you have a
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state of emergency like you have. You have these people in the predicament that
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they're inside of this judicial system. But then you have individuals that will not
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show up to the polls. Why because they have this attitude that they vote
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do not matter. Why because they've seen what has happened, They've seen the
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nephetism, they've seen all this stuff. But they have to be that cycle.
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So you can't worry about the president. You can't worry about all of
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them because a lot of that. We don't have a lot of control over
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that day and everybody that followed the presidential campaign and all that, they know
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how all that is run. But we do have control over. What we
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have control over is the local government. We have control over who is our
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mayor, who is our city council, who is our governor. We have
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control over that because we our votes matter. But when you're not showing up
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to the polls, when you're not voting, when you're not allowing your voice
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to be heard, that becomes a problem. And that's why a lot of
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the things that is happening inside the judicial system and inside the prison system is
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happening. And then that's why a lot of people don't know what's going on.
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A lot of people don't know what's happening because they don't go to these
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meetings. They don't go to the city council, they don't go to the
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mayor meetings, they don't go to these different meetings every month, every quarter,
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every six months, whatever. They're not at these cities functions. So
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these people are passing laws, they passing legislation, they pass the city audience,
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they're doing all these different things, and you don't know until one of
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your family members or until one of your family members end up in prison and
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then they going through all of this, but you chose not to express your
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voice by voting, and that's what's happening. So a lot of us we
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have ourselves to be at fault for what's going on. So when we look
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at what is happening in the state of Texas. I blame the people of
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the state of Texas. They need to stand up because you can't tell me
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you don't see this on the news. You can't tell me that you don't
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see this in your newspapers. You can't tell me that you don't see or
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hear these things going on. But yet it's still year after year after year
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after year after year, the same things continue to happen. You hear the
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same stories from the same people, and the same results continuing to happen.
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And then you have these elected officials that know these things are going on.
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They will send you these generic letters responding to your complaint, responding to your
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response or whatever it may be, with this generic letter, like they really
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truly care, when they really truly don't. But we will say, okay,
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well, let's just go along with whatever. No, I don't care.
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If it's a thousand complaints filed already, follow another one a lot,
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you file one. Everybody around you need to file one. All of y'all
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need to sue their behinds. And if these people get enough lawsuits behind they
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behinds, for real lawsuits behind they behinds, they ain't gonna be able to
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brush it off. They aint gonna be able to cover it up under the
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road. They're not gonna be able to continue to do that when enough people
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sue them for the same thing, that they gonna have to realize that there
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seriously is a problem and maybe we need to look at this, and then
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maybe outside sources will begin to come in and begin to look at See were
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not backing down. And you got some people out here like Chanette. Channette
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is not playing you know. We we we were talking about South Carolina right
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So here in South Carolina, our Supreme Court have just had a seat open
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up or something. Well, we have a supreme court that has all males
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right now, all white males right now. One who was trying to get
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voted on. There was three numberinees up. There was a white male,
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a white female, and a black female. Well the black female was the
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first time okay, was the first to drop out. Then the white female
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was the second to drop So now we have okay, come on, So
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now we have now we have he's calling right back, y'all. Y'all know
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how we can't control they when they locked down like that, they limit their
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call. So but we're gonna keep this show going. So South Carolina right
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now is getting ready to have a all white male Supreme Court, which is
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totally a violation. It's a violation, and we as people need to stand
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up, we need to speak out and we need to say something because that
26:18
it's not that that is not constitutional for all white men to preside over cases.
26:25
How can there be some fairness when if if I'm black and then I'm
26:29
a woman, how can you sympathize to anything that I may be going through
26:33
when you don't look like me and you definitely ain't been through nothing I have
26:37
been through. So there again, we have to look at these things,
26:41
y'all, and we have to know what's going on. We have to know
26:47
what's going on. We have to we have to get out here and voice
26:52
our voice through voting and being an outlet. There's no reason why a lot
26:57
of this stuff should be happening, and a lot of us just sitting around
27:03
and just acting like it's okay. We don't go to no meetings, We're
27:07
not involved in what goes on in the city. We don't go to nothing
27:11
that is happening. If the doors are opening, the doors are open for
27:18
the club we wide open to get there, but we won't go and sit
27:22
down and see what these people are doing with our tax money. We won't
27:26
go and sit down and figure out why these people are not getting these streets
27:30
fixed. We won't go and figure out why these people are not doing the
27:34
things that they need to do as far as having programs for these babies when
27:40
they have funds. Y'all that realize that these different apartment complexes, if they
27:45
are getting money from HUD, funding from HUD, If you live in an
27:49
apartment complex and you're getting funding from HUD, know that they're supposed to be
27:55
some type of programming going on in those apartment complexes that are supposed to be
27:59
given back to the community. They're supposed to be doing something for the kids
28:03
and for the development of the parents. So if you're in the HUD apartment
28:08
and you may be a single mom, they supposed to have a program that
28:11
can teach you that could that can help you transition from being a renter to
28:17
a buyer, to help go from being a apartment owner to a home owner.
28:23
And see, they don't talk about that, they don't talk about how
28:26
they're supposed to have these these these events once a month to give back into
28:32
the kids. And and yeah, they get funds for that. So if
28:36
you had a HUG subsidized apartment complex, then y'all need to be going to
28:41
yall rent office and asking them why y'all don't have no programming, why there's
28:47
nothing going on. Find out if your apartment complex is HUT funded. If
28:52
they're HUD funded, know that you're supposed to have stuff going on. Know
28:56
that these things are supposed to be going on. And if they're not inquired
29:00
bottom and then if the apartment complex, if the management can't give you answers,
29:04
then you can. You can inquire with HUG because HUD know who are
29:08
they fund. As matter of fact, they're supposed to advertise if they get
29:14
HUD funded. So all you have to do is go to their website and
29:17
see if they get HOOD funded. If they don't want to tell you,
29:19
if they don't want to talk about it, and then if they try to
29:23
but they try to be vindictive and they and they try to retaliate against you
29:27
for ask and then you know that's a lawsuit too. We got to learn
29:32
to know our rights. We got to understand what our rights are. We
29:37
got to understand what they can and what they cannot do. We got to
29:41
know that we can't just keep accepting any and everything from people and and saying
29:48
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You may start the conversation now, all right, sorry, all right,
30:12
so welcome back. I was just just talking, just just keeping them up
30:18
on some stuff that was that that come across my eyes. South Carolina with
30:26
this new Supreme Court justice that they were supposed to be getting. They had
30:33
three nombinees. One was a black female, one was a white female,
30:37
and one was a white male. Well, the both of the females dropped
30:41
out. We don't know why they dropped out. We don't know if maybe
30:44
they were intimidated or what the case may be. We know that that's a
30:48
lot of that goes on in in in these races and in in in these
30:52
different southern countries that southern counties, uh in in Southern states. They like
30:59
to intimidate and they like to the men like to throw their power around,
31:03
and so the fact that they still think that women should not be in these
31:07
different offices, in these different places. I'm telling you, they keep on
31:12
playing with me. I'm gonna be on women walk up in somebody office and
31:15
signed up to be on somebody pole, and I'm they're gonna be gonna go
31:19
to me in somebody office. They keep playing. I believe it. But
31:26
you know, and and and everything you're saying in earlier to day. But
31:29
people don't want to change. But they don't do nothing about it. I
31:33
tell I tell these guys all the time, white complain. If you're not
31:37
gonna do nothing about it, if you're not gonna do nothing about it,
31:40
don't they don't complain. I understand that they may retaliated, and look,
31:44
they can't even retaliate against me because I do these podcasts. But you know
31:48
what I care about these guys. I think what they're doing to them,
31:52
if they're constitutional, I don't think anybody, not even animals, should be
31:56
treated like that. I understand that we're incarcraated come for cuns. They may
32:00
have come committed or may not have committed. But the fact of the matter,
32:02
if you have policies implemented and you're supposed to adhere to those policies.
32:07
They do it well. Short the staff don't have nothing to do with it.
32:12
And if it's too much, shorten the staff, close down units that
32:15
people go home. You have people in here because they just want a commodity.
32:20
That's all it is. You're keeping the prisons, you're making money,
32:22
you're doing it, and now you're keeping them not down. Now you're locking
32:24
them down in extreme sheet. And that's why they implement this policy to keep
32:30
any heat related incidents from occurring. But still the administration on this unit does
32:36
not care, and they're going to continue to do what they want to do
32:38
because, like they say, they can and and I don't think it's right.
32:43
And this is why I'm at least one person, you know, and
32:45
I'm sure there's many more, because I know some people don't really care about
32:49
what they're doing too. But I'm not. I'm not going on the outside.
32:55
I'm not being quiet. I'm not going to be quiet, and I
32:59
don't care what they do. I'm not gonna be quiet. I just wrote
33:02
a lot of the things that everybody know. I write books and I put
33:07
a lot of stuff in books, and I get it I'm gonna put it
33:08
out there. Matter of fact, the book that I'm talking about, the
33:12
book that I just released, eight Kings decided to share in this book with
33:16
me. In this poetry, we are writing word of inspiration, worse of
33:21
hopes, worse of encouragement to you guys, because we want to encourage you.
33:24
We want y'all to know that we've not forgotten y'all, and that we
33:28
are rooting for you, and that we are cheering for you, and we're
33:30
doing what we can do on this side to let people know that we have
33:32
not forgotten y'all. Because a lot oftentimes people go to prison, people go
33:37
and people go on with their lives and they forget, and then they forget
33:39
that, you know, these things are happening because it's not happening to them.
33:44
They don't think that it's happening. Oh, they're in a safe place.
33:46
They're better off. They're not out here in these streets, so they
33:49
think that they're in a safe place when they're not. These people are undergoing
33:52
more trauma than they probably would be going if they was home and having to
33:57
deal with whatever it was that got them there, you know. But nevertheless,
34:02
I just feel like this book is gonna expose a lot of stuff,
34:07
gonna share not only shed light to some of you guys case because we share
34:13
y'all stories inside of these this book as well, we're putting a face to
34:19
this so people can see, you know, we want people to know what
34:22
you was charged with, how long you've been incarcerated, and what you are
34:25
enduring the things that you've endured. I even do a piece on the history
34:31
of private prisons showing how private prison came about and who who invested in these
34:38
private prisons, So at the end of the day, you see who really
34:42
had a hand in started of this, you know. And then we wonder
34:46
why a lot of people are not getting proper care that they need because a
34:52
hospital, Vandervelt Hospital was one of the main people that back the first prison
34:58
system. Hospitals was prison system. Why why would you back a prison system?
35:04
Why would you back something where we're trying to reform and trying to rehabilitate
35:07
people. But why would you be trying to back something that is knowing nothing
35:10
but housing people for money? And that's what these three guys that started this
35:15
private prison that was one of the reasons why they started. They said,
35:17
well, well, we can help alleviate the overcrowdedness. We can help alleviate
35:22
the overcrowdedness while we make up some money. And when they got in there
35:25
and realized that they really couldn't make money, and they got in there and
35:30
truly realized the money that they can made, they truly went left with it.
35:34
And that's how you look at the own set of the mass incarceration that
35:38
gave the government free reign to go out here and do what they wanted to
35:43
do to help fill these prisons. That that's how they came together and begin
35:47
to fill these prisons. Because if you go back and you look at the
35:52
own set of the mass incarceration, you look at the own set of these
35:55
change and these laws, these legislation, and even the people that some of
35:59
you our thought was for y'all was not for you, because you go back,
36:02
all of us, we don't like democrats. Democrats had their hands in
36:07
it. You don't like Republicans. Republicans had their hands in it. All
36:10
of them had their hands in it. So don't like yourselves because all of
36:15
them had their hands in it. Both parties had their hands in it.
36:16
If you want, if you want to be like that. You don't want
36:20
to say you want to blame it on the Democrats, and some don't want
36:22
to blame it on the Republicans. They both had their hands in it,
36:24
and each time when each one of them was in office, they did what
36:28
they had to do to appease the people that's in charge. And we all
36:31
know that there's thirteen families that are in charge of the whole world. They
36:37
run this entire world. Are they behind the prison system, Yes they are.
36:42
They are behind a lot of the systems that run this world. And
36:45
that's what we have to understand. You have to look at it and see
36:49
it for what it is. You can't pretend that these things don't happen.
36:52
But what you can do is stop supporting these people that are doing these things
36:58
that are causing these people. So buying Starbucks starbar is one of these people
37:02
that make money off of the prison system. Stop buying Victoria's Secret. Victoria's
37:07
Secret is another one of those that make money off the prison system. Stop
37:10
buying McDonald's. Stop buying a lot as a list, and the list goes
37:15
on and on. Go look at the list. Stop supporting those people that
37:19
support the prison system. When you cut them off and cut their funds off,
37:24
then guess what. Then they're gonna have to go somewhere else. Then
37:28
guess what. These private prison systems will begin to shut down if they if
37:31
nobody can fund them, nobody can run them, then guess what They'll begin
37:36
to close down. And then I want to go back and touch on what
37:37
you said about the prison system and them not talking about understaffing the Okay,
37:45
Well, when I first began working with you guys, I was looking at
37:49
how the parole board was set up and how there was like really known representation
37:53
for black people on the parole board. So I was wondering, how was
37:58
these people coming up for parole and getting Well, I would looked at it,
38:00
they wouldn't They were giving them over sentences and all all that. I
38:06
looked at the statistics of looking at the black and brown people that are incarcerated
38:09
versus the other minorities, the other groups of people that are incarcerated, and
38:17
you look at the discrepancies, You look at the disparity in that in some
38:22
cases they triple other racist number of incarcerations. How how and looking at the
38:31
citizen as well, you look at the centizen as well, where you have
38:36
someone that has committed murder and told that person that they was gonna kill them.
38:40
They terroristically told them that they was gonna kill them. But you can
38:45
give them ten years and then you can give somebody that didn't kill nobody.
38:50
They may have just shot at somebody or or may just said that they was
38:53
gonna shoot at them, but you can give them two life sentences. I
38:57
don't understand the likely. I just don't see how that is can be right
39:00
in any way. Why because one was black and one was white. I
39:05
truly don't understand that. Or one was Hispanic and one was white. It's
39:08
always have something to do with the other race in all black and brown people,
39:15
it always ends up that way. My thing, I feel like they
39:20
have targeted the Hispanics because of the the the barrier, the language barrier,
39:28
and I figured they target them. They target them because of that language barrier,
39:34
and they can think that they can use them, and some of them
39:37
they have and some of them they have told them that they they doing it
39:42
and because they can do it. When you can tell somebody you putting them
39:46
in prison because you can do it. And somebody that stepped outside of their
39:50
bounce. They overstep in their authority, they overstepping their power, and they
39:53
need to be taken down out of office. They need to be removed from
39:58
office. But yet they stay in these positions. You have public defenders that
40:05
become assistant district attorneys, that go on to become district attorneys, that go
40:08
on and get on the board of Appeal. And then they are the same
40:13
people that have put you there, that are up before your appeals. And
40:15
then you wonder why you keep getting denied. It's not what you're submitting to
40:20
them, it's not what you're putting before them. It's because they've got in
40:23
these positions and they want to keep you there. Because these people are getting
40:28
paid, They getting campaign money. They can they get money off of this.
40:34
They get whatever they call them keickbacks for this and keep backs for that.
40:37
You look at why y'all governor won't do a lot of stuff with TDCJ.
40:45
Why he moved millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars
40:49
out of TDCJ and put them at the border. What good did it do?
40:52
It did no good because the border is worse than it was when you
40:57
took all that money. So what did you do with all that money that
41:00
you took from TDCJ when you could have been helping build these these programs.
41:05
You could have been helping these people. You could have been funding the parole
41:08
board. So that some of these people that were Elgeibra for parole, they
41:12
have did they they've done the work, They've done the time, and they've
41:15
done the work. Because anytime somebody can do twenty twenty five, thirty thirty
41:22
five, forty years, then they've done They've done the time. Because now
41:24
when they get out, some of these people ain't even gonna have they they
41:29
in their sixties, they in their seventies. What else are they gonna be
41:32
able to do except enjoy what little life they have left. They're not gonna
41:36
be able to really get on them nine to fives and work. So they're
41:38
gonna have to find things that they can do that that that stir up that
41:43
passion in them that they can go out and do something that is not stringous,
41:46
because a lot of these people are not gonna be able to hold jobs,
41:50
so they're gonna be able to labor. A lot of them not gonna
41:52
be able to stand up and do all that they don't look at that.
41:54
Now they the government gonna have to take care of them again because now they're
41:59
gonna have to get their security. They've not worked because they've been in prison,
42:04
but they've been working their numbers because hey, I'm sure if y'all got
42:07
to sign off on these work these work papers, when y'all go to these
42:09
different places, somebody getting to pay check somewhere from for for this all this
42:14
free label the job putting now, but I guarantee you it ain't free for
42:17
them. All that label the job putting out on baby has somebody getting to
42:22
check somewhere. And it's slowly but surely a lot of it's gonna be exposed.
42:34
Very true. I believe. I believe that I'm always hearing that that,
42:39
you know, even TDCJ had telling Stock, you know, And I
42:44
mean I try looking through through all the papers and trying to find out,
42:46
well, under what under what persodium are they telling Stock to me? Because
42:51
if you really look at it, and you've got T T I T T
42:53
I that take an industrial company that makes mattress and shirts, all this other
42:59
type of stuff that they do, Groves Furniture, they do everything, even
43:04
we do all the life and play, all the stickers, everything to make
43:07
to generate millions and millions and millions of dollars for the detective and the individual
43:14
units. Now it's night period that I don't let grove of anybody because it's
43:21
a commodity. Like we said, it's a for profit prison. Now,
43:24
if we love them, all the people who are working hard and dedicating themselves
43:29
to show that, hey, well I'm trying to do my benef I can
43:32
go home and make brows. But then again, you don't pick up no
43:36
cases or nothing. You should come around and tell you more. You're manipulating
43:38
the system. You should have been picking up some cases or violating some kind
43:43
of rule. So you're too squeaky clean, so we're gonna deny you for
43:45
roles. I always told him I didn't mention less time and and I gave
43:51
this topic. But if you look at the knuckleheads, the guys who are
43:54
actually in and out of trouble, in and out of trouble coming to from
44:00
regular general population going to a restrictive custody level, here, isn't the ones
44:05
that they're giving them parole? Why? Because they have to still show that
44:09
they're given people parole. The only difference between these two is these are being
44:15
other than the comeback and the guys that are doing their time in a positive
44:19
way made a simple mistake, you know, won't come back, but they
44:22
need people to come back. This is how the recidivism is created. The
44:27
parole system creates the recidivismess. A lot of people say, well, yeah,
44:30
because of lack of education and they don't have the proper job skills or
44:36
somebody like this that can be effective. I'm not going to deny that bus
44:39
effective it is. If you're putting them to work and you're giving them ojts,
44:44
you should give them that, okat so they can take that that they
44:46
got and implemented into something outside in the world. But they're not giving nobody.
44:52
There's opportunities to say people like me, for instance, I got ninety
44:55
nine years that they gave it for something that I didn't even do. I'm
45:00
still serving the time and I'm going on twenty six years already. I have
45:02
to be thirty years before I come up a pole. Thirty years. I
45:07
came in when I was thirty eight years old. Now I'm sixty three,
45:10
all right. I mean I go out said that I can still work.
45:14
I can probably hopefully still work and give me a good job. But who's
45:16
gonna risk They're gonna try to They're gonna look at me at the high ability.
45:21
So the only thing I got promising to me is that that I'm was
45:23
blessed to get into the class shop learned to trade and doing jewelry. I
45:28
can do any kind of jewelry, who is, basically, and I can
45:31
probably utilize that when I get out. There's other people that that don't have
45:36
that same opportunity, who are gonna do when they get out, Like you
45:38
said, they're gonna have to find a job that they can't actually uh,
45:44
they can't do no hard labor or anything like that. And they're gonna basically
45:47
barely need the minimum wage to live in a society that's waged. I mean
45:53
that that cost of living is already exceedingly high to my understanding. So I
45:59
mean gonna really look at at the overall of the overall of what's going on.
46:05
You know, you have people going to prison, especially the state of
46:07
Texas. They're giving how time like candy, But you've got to look at
46:10
how the prosecutors that doesn't all manipulate the system to the point where, like
46:16
you say, we can have the same same murder, but they're gonna say,
46:20
Okay, because you do guilty, I'm gonna give you thirty years.
46:22
And another guy who's actually in it and he says, man, I'm not
46:25
guilty of this. They're gonna give you the maximum punishings that can find the
46:30
mac. It doesn't matter what I need in the paper. I read guy
46:34
murders two kids, he gets forty years. What kind of justice is that?
46:38
Okay, forty years, that's a lount of time. You're gonna do
46:42
twenty five even twenty five to thirty years before it's brically but can come up
46:45
for twenty years. But there are two kids just off their lives. Even
46:49
if it was in the cross shooting or whatever. The fact is, the
46:52
dealm is that the prosecutors know how to manipulate the system. Do you know
46:57
how to haggle? As lawyers are are friends and district attorneys that on going
47:02
to cool together. They only graduated from college together. You never know what
47:07
the scenario could be. That prosecutor could have been your friend, but thou
47:10
was a judge. He's gonna go ahead and still help the prosecuting team and
47:15
the second charity. So what what how is the system actually running? I
47:20
mean when they were still well, we can see that it's not running.
47:22
We can see that it's not running correctly because they they've given down these nine
47:28
verdicts, they've given down these the it's these charges for Donald Trump. Now
47:32
they're saying that they he's he's he's he's relying on his friends in the Supreme
47:37
Court to to look out for him, and and and and and that's what's
47:42
gonna happen. He he he put, he helped put some of the people
47:45
on that Supreme Court. So he's looking for them to look out for him.
47:50
He's looking for them to go to war for him. And that's what's
47:52
gonna happen. And this this, this is the man that y'all won't run
47:57
in the country. This is the man that everybody out there won't run in
48:00
the country. When he's a known he's been been forty two is it forty
48:08
two? Was it forty two or twenty four counts? However many counts,
48:13
it's too many counts. It's one town too many, two counts, it's
48:16
one count too many. But you want him as a president, you want
48:22
him to his slate to be white clean. Why when he has manipulated and
48:27
he man he has done all that he can do to bring America against itself.
48:34
He wants to see another civil war right here on this sand. And
48:38
not only that, he pissing off people outside of this country that can come
48:42
into this country and do anything to us. And it's been shown that these
48:46
people can do that. When we see the blimp that came through, blimp
48:51
size of three buses, we don't see it coming. We don't see it,
48:53
and it don't hit no radar, it don't hit nothing. And it
48:57
wasn't just one time that this happened. This happened twice. But we all
49:02
get comfortable, we all get that we all trust in the system, because
49:07
that's what they taught us. Can't trust the system. That don't that that
49:09
was not set up for us. It was not set up for us in
49:13
the beginning. So how can you think that it's for us now? It
49:16
wasn't set up for you in the beginning, So how do you think it's
49:21
for you now? That's what I want people to understand. It was not
49:23
designed for you. You know that's true. It doesn't matter if you're a
49:30
Republican or Democrat. Wrong is wrong, right is right? If you break
49:34
the law, what does that telling you about your character? I'm good,
49:39
yeah, yeah, I only to hear what they want to hear. They
49:45
believe what they want to believe. But if you look at the actual fact,
49:50
is this actually gonna happen? I mean, how many times are you
49:52
gonna do this or do that? I mean they're talking about the job that
49:58
they parted that there off at level. Well apparently not because according to a
50:02
lot of people they talked to, the AIS are taking control. You don't
50:07
have people like a grocery stores. They have automatic killers, you know,
50:13
and a lot of that. Some of that, I mean, I mean
50:16
some of it, some of it is it's okay, and then some of
50:22
it's not. Because Walmart just had a big lawsuit about about that about they
50:28
self machines. They they self machines and if you go in these neighborhood walmarts,
50:35
that's all you have. During the pandemic. It allowed these people to
50:37
be able to go to self serve everything self serve. So now you just
50:40
have somebody standing there telling you which one to go to. They don't and
50:45
then if you have issues there then they'll come up and help you with those
50:47
issues. Now, see that's what I'm telling people. They still don't have
50:51
to have somebody there, because when you have problems with the machines, can't
50:53
run the machines them. Machines can't run theyselves, the machines can't correct themselves.
50:59
They are You always got to have somebody come over there. Somebody gonna
51:01
need their cold. Somebody got to look at an ID. So if they
51:05
buying alcohol, if they buying tobacco products, somebody got physically see an I
51:08
D. Because they don't have nothing that can say, oh, this is
51:13
really this person or this is that person or whatever. Somebody got to physically
51:15
look at it. So some aspect of it. Yeah, And then how
51:20
they've been operating. They got lawsuits, a lot of those places, got
51:24
lossuits coming. They gonna try and we're gonna see how it's gonna work.
51:29
Just like with these different cars you had, Tesla, We've been having a
51:34
lot of issues with those cars. A lot of those cars been getting mines
51:37
of their owns and driving people off cliffs and doing all kinds of other stuff
51:40
and then just just just all kind of stuff. So I'm not gonna say
51:46
that they're just gonna take over because it's always gonna in certain areas, it's
51:51
always gonna need up a human touch. You know, a lot of people
51:54
think that it's gonna take over the medical field. But I still think that
51:58
that's gonna be a need for a physical person because like drawing blood, you're
52:01
gonna need a person to draw blood, because you ain't gonna be able to
52:05
have no no machine to just go up there and draw no blood from nobody.
52:08
They're gonna be sticking there people everywhere, you know, from away.
52:12
What about people with running veins? How you're gonna have a machine that's gonna
52:14
be able to detect that and detect all these different things, some stuff just
52:17
not a machine that's not gonna be able to do it right right. And
52:23
everything that I'm beloving is because I don't know anything about technology out there.
52:28
Everything has changed, what has changed to me? Like I said, I
52:30
think cultivated so long, I don't I don't even think I'll be able to
52:35
operate one of the phones they got out there. Well I want, well,
52:39
I wonder if because I and in twenty twenty nine, when they build
52:45
that that two million dollars, that two billion dollar prison. They building one
52:50
in Alabama, and they building one in Atlanta, Fulldton County. They're getting
52:55
a new billion dollars there. This is gonna be a billion dollars the one
53:00
and Alabama is going to be too big. But they getting billion dollar facilities
53:05
and by twenty twenty nine, Atlanta is expected to have THEIRS. By twenty
53:09
twenty nine, Alabama is expected to have THEIRS by I want to say it
53:15
said twenty twenty six. But there's thirty one facilities that's coming up in the
53:21
United United States prisons that's coming up in the United States. Alabama is one
53:25
that they thinking about that they want to incorporate the robots. So we want
53:30
to see how that's gonna go. I want to see how you're gonna have
53:31
robots running the humans and when they it's too hot up in there and then
53:36
robots start, how they go, I don't be able to get order up.
53:45
And now that that's what I want to see, I truly want to
53:49
see that. That's gonna be a sad day in time. I wouldn't gona
53:52
say I would have done if somebody tried to throw a cup of water on
53:57
them A short amount you know I mean it is, but but yeah,
54:00
people like they like they do like they do like the that that's that's gonna
54:06
be the seeout. So they gonna do this do them just like they do
54:08
the other CEO. They might get some feces and some Yeah so ain't no
54:13
telling us. So we gonna see how this is urine and yeah, we're
54:15
gonna see how this cos going on them. Yeah, exactly how I love.
54:21
I would love to see them breakup of fight. I would love to
54:22
see them break up a fight. They must just gonna have gas automatic releast
54:27
because I would love to see them break up a fight automatic right right,
54:30
that would be something to see. I was gonna say, you know,
54:36
it's crazy because these these buildings have been here like this unit has. It's
54:39
already going like a thirty thirty one years. They've been here and and they're
54:44
fabricated buildings. And if you look at at the crown shifts so much that
54:47
their areas and the orders of the buildings that are coming apart. There's areas
54:52
where the windows and shifted. And when it range, water comes in,
54:58
water comes in? It can it can? I remember when I was on
55:00
Commody, I first got there and had a band a rain storm and I
55:06
got up in the middle of the nine and I put my foot on the
55:08
floor and it was full of water. I couldn't believe it. I said,
55:12
what the and uh? But he shoot it here? Yeah? Here
55:21
when even the last twenty years, because I'm afraid one day they aren't going
55:25
to collapse. And I wonder who's going to be responsible for that. I
55:30
wonder who's going to be the accountability Remember that that mode, that big old
55:34
apartment complex that fell over there in Florida because they said the stress points were
55:38
kind of messed up, and they even told him about it, but they
55:42
never did anything about it, and then telling Florida a few years back,
55:45
I killed a lot of people. So it was a big old deal.
55:49
Anyway, I feel it that what they need to do is come over here
55:52
and check these stress points too, because one day these builties are going to
55:57
actually kill the talk I I I kind of have that feguing. You know,
56:01
we already have We're the dorms and all the bottoms, like not all
56:04
the bottom, but in some areas of the bottoms of the decabricated of building,
56:08
they're already rusted out. I can look out at the bottom in the
56:13
corner from one of the sails, and you can look outside. You can
56:15
see daylight. You know. So of course you're gonna have all these creepy
56:20
creators come in, Snake, She's gonna have scorpions, Uh, spiders.
56:24
You're gonna have all kinds of creepy creators come in and uh and uh you
56:29
find them in your cell when you come in. Uh. I found a
56:31
lot of scorpions, uh, black scorpions, Uh, some like brownlins and
56:38
uh, tons of roaches and done the roaches and the lord. But you
56:44
know, it's something we go through. But and especially during the heat.
56:47
And like I said, and that's that's my main concern right now, is
56:52
the heat. I mean, yes, I can, I can follow the
56:54
man events and I can. I can take it to the corner exacting.
56:58
But the only thing is with me. I I've already had a strike three
57:01
on my lawsuits, so I have to pay for my next money right now,
57:05
says I'm not in the crash shops. You know, kind of hard
57:07
to pay for something without being able to earn a living. But I'm going
57:15
to continue to voice out whatever I can until they actually started doing what they're
57:20
supposed to do. Even when I get out, and you know, I'll
57:22
let them be more than happy to join you in your effort to doing everything
57:27
that you're doing now to trying to bring acknowledgement and awareness to what's going on
57:34
within the system. I mean, the TDTJ should be held accountable. They
57:37
should be and I've read, like I said, I've read numerous cases,
57:42
hundred cases for the lawsuits and laws. He says, Fank, somebody was
57:47
telling me early this morning while we went to medical that his epin pile was
57:52
telling him last night that she typed in some place and it showed all the
57:55
lawsuits again GDDJ for air conditioning, for for being so hot, I mean,
58:01
and I was surprised. So I told you I had to ask her
58:06
website that was on so that I can share it with you, so maybe
58:09
you can go and see everything that's going on and did so confirm everything that
58:15
you've been complaining about, everything that I've been talking about, and you can
58:20
point it out. Well, look at this, keep me about look at
58:22
this. They're bringing this up. But like I said, a post say
58:25
living and it's hard for us to do something very articulated the way that they
58:31
wanted to articulate it even though they're supposed to look at it it was le
58:37
stritic standard. Uh. We still trying to do our best, you know.
58:42
And and like I said, if I've been fighting my case for since
58:45
day one, and I've been shot down every time, every time, and
58:50
it's only because I had to fight it on my own. I had to
58:52
study them all. I had to learn the procedures. I had to learn
58:57
how to articulate my words in a sense that I can make it a meaningful
59:01
It's like me writing the story and let in the judge decipher if it's PETI
59:06
way enough so that it can have give me relieve. But either way,
59:13
uh, I want to thank you and your audience will allow me to be
59:15
back on the show, and God William, I like to come back again.
59:20
I can't tell you what in but hopefully one day soon I will trying
59:23
to keep you posted with what's calling on here. Uh you know that look
59:29
and time so I can't get that much information. Only when when people pass
59:32
by and I go to medical Uh so I'll be able to get you know,
59:37
share information with everybody. But either then, I thank you wanted again
59:40
and hopefully God willing. You know, change will be coming, you know,
59:45
and you know we we can just hope for the best. Right,
59:49
So, thank you so much, view first hearers, listeners, toybody,
59:54
thank you so much. All right, all r oh, thank you?
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What's your letters? Right? The caller has hung up. Well, I
1:00:09
thank y'all for joining me today and tuning in again every chance I get.
1:00:15
I'm gonna try to bring somebody on on Monday. We'll probably have somebody else
1:00:19
on next Monday. Like say, he is struggling trying to keep money money
1:00:24
on these books because they had cut the opportunity for him to go into the
1:00:28
shop and make the jury and to make those things that was helping him keep
1:00:32
funds on his book. The man is in his sixties, he's sixty three
1:00:37
years old, so of course his parents are elderly. His mom is in
1:00:40
her nineties and she's suffering from dementia. So y'all, he's doing the best
1:00:45
that he can to fight for his freedom, to get free, to get
1:00:49
on the outside. Because the man is wrongfully incarcerated. Y'all can go over
1:00:52
and actually look at a documentary that was done on his behalf by ksat twelve
1:01:01
some years ago. It's labeled the Bingo King, and it shows you some
1:01:08
of the discrepancies in his case, like where is that gun? When was
1:01:14
it testified? Why was it never testified? Why was he never tested for
1:01:17
gunshot residue? All of those things? Why wasn't no cameras pooled? Because
1:01:23
you were talking about a business area and what happened to the people that they
1:01:29
saw running in the other direction? Whatever happened to those people? Did y'all
1:01:32
ever find those people? Did y'all interview those people? Like? It is
1:01:37
so much, y'all, So if y'all get a chancet's check out that documentary.
1:01:44
I think it's like a six part documentary. It's on YouTube. It
1:01:47
was done by Kasat News. And when the newspeople can sit down with you
1:01:52
and go over your story and and believe that there's some discrepancies in your story,
1:01:57
then that that that's that that that means that somebody need to take heed
1:02:00
and look at it, and they yet to do it. This man has
1:02:04
been in prison twenty six years, y'all. So if y'all will please share
1:02:07
this out with someone in your circle of influence, never know what the next
1:02:09
person may be in need of Also, if you have someone that is incarcerated
1:02:14
and you would like to come on and be a voice, we have an
1:02:19
amazing show on the Coup podcast Let's talk about it with Channette Johnson. She's
1:02:27
on every first and third Monday. You can come on and share with her.
1:02:32
She will take a look at your loved one's case and she will try
1:02:37
to break it down and and try to look at it and and try to
1:02:43
discuss it. So, if you're out there and you got somebody, y'all,
1:02:45
we're here to bring life to all these injustices that's taking place in our
1:02:50
black and brown community. Y'all. It has to stop, and we are
1:02:53
the change that we want to see. So change starts and ends with me.
1:02:58
So I am being that change, y'all. So thank y'all for joining
1:03:01
me on today. Y'all share this out with somebody and y'all be blessed.
1:03:05
Enjoy y'all Monday, Enjoy the rest of y'all week. Walking purpose on purpose.
1:03:10
Know you got purpose. No, you didn't get dropped out of the
1:03:13
sky. There's a reason why you hear y'all be blessed, Oh things bless
1:03:25
were in all the blue sky's Boys,