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- 0:11Speaker 1: You are tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show from the
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- 0:29Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show on a Friday.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Welcome in the voice of the Youths, Bill Riley, A
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- 0:47Speaker 3: Bill Riley, Welcome back to the show.
- 0:49Speaker 4: How are you don I'm good. I wishing I was
- 0:52Speaker 4: in Stiattle at lumen Field today, but doing okay, seventy
- 0:57Speaker 4: six days to kick off, Excited about Football USA today
- 1:01Speaker 4: against Australia and ready to go.
- 1:05Speaker 2: How do you react to the news we just got.
- 1:08Speaker 2: Mauricio Poschattino confirmed with Jenny Taft that Christian Polistic will
- 1:13Speaker 2: not play against Australia today.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Not surprised at all. He didn't train with the team
- 1:18Speaker 4: all week long, so when you're not training with the
- 1:21Speaker 4: team and you're doing work on the side, I didn't
- 1:26Speaker 4: have any thought that he would play today when I
- 1:28Speaker 4: saw the last two days, he didn't train with the team,
- 1:30Speaker 4: so if this was an elimination game, I think you'd
- 1:34Speaker 4: see him probably try to play. But because it's the
- 1:37Speaker 4: second game in group stage and because they have three
- 1:39Speaker 4: points in their back pocket, I think it's probably the
- 1:43Speaker 4: wise move. And as key as he is and he
- 1:47Speaker 4: might be the most important and influential player for the team,
- 1:51Speaker 4: they do have options. My expectation just to guess, just
- 1:56Speaker 4: a guess. Eighteen years and calling some US men's national
- 2:00Speaker 4: team games over the years, I know a little bit
- 2:02Speaker 4: about the beautiful game. I'm gonna guess Tim Wia probably
- 2:05Speaker 4: gets to start with his World Cup experience, probably goes
- 2:10Speaker 4: sixty or so minutes, and then I think we probably
- 2:13Speaker 4: see Geo Reina slot in as the second half substitution,
- 2:17Speaker 4: depending on how the game's going, if they need a goal,
- 2:20Speaker 4: if they're up a couple of goals, maybe they go
- 2:22Speaker 4: more defensive in the midfield. But not really surprised. I
- 2:27Speaker 4: bet we probably see him against Turkey a next next Friday,
- 2:31Speaker 4: But not real surprised by the names.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Riccardo Pepe getting the starts, according to the pops.
- 2:39Speaker 4: Really in place of Plissic.
- 2:44Speaker 3: I didn't I've.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Been on air, so I have not been able to
- 2:46Speaker 2: listen to the SoundBite itself. But in his conversation with
- 2:49Speaker 2: Jenny Teff, this is the Fox Sports report. Okay, he's
- 2:53Speaker 2: out and Riccardo Peppy to get the start, so interesting.
- 2:57Speaker 4: Okay, interesting, indeed going with an additional forward. Okay, all right,
- 3:03Speaker 4: we'll see what Poacha decides to do with this. With
- 3:07Speaker 4: this lineup today, it's going to be a physical game. Australia,
- 3:09Speaker 4: as you know, tend to be very physical in all
- 3:13Speaker 4: they do, whether it's basketball, Australian rules football, rugby, whatever
- 3:18Speaker 4: it is. The soccer rus are going to make it
- 3:21Speaker 4: and I think that's another reason why they didn't want to.
- 3:23Speaker 4: They didn't want to risk polistic today too, even if
- 3:26Speaker 4: he's close to being back. Australia plays a very physical
- 3:30Speaker 4: brand of soccer and I think they've probably want to
- 3:33Speaker 4: lessen the chances that he's out and aggravates it even longer.
- 3:36Speaker 4: So I would expect a low scoring, physical game today
- 3:41Speaker 4: in Seattle, and what about ninety minutes from now.
- 3:45Speaker 2: I know you do love the beautiful game, and you've
- 3:47Speaker 2: called it for such a long time, and you know
- 3:50Speaker 2: you're always going to enjoy watching this World Cup, but
- 3:52Speaker 2: seeing your home country host it, seeing your hometown, your
- 3:57Speaker 2: original hometown be one.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Of the host sites.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah, like all the accessory stories and things that are
- 4:02Speaker 2: coming out in the news and on social media and whatnot.
- 4:05Speaker 3: With all of that stuff, I imagine for me this.
- 4:08Speaker 2: One has been even more enjoyable than than a typical
- 4:11Speaker 2: World Cup.
- 4:12Speaker 3: How do you feel.
- 4:14Speaker 4: I mean, I'm old enough to remember us hosting in
- 4:17Speaker 4: nineteen ninety four, but it was just different. I mean,
- 4:21Speaker 4: the United States wasn't playing a huge though they had
- 4:24Speaker 4: a great run, a surprising run there. The game in
- 4:27Speaker 4: this country wasn't where it is today. But to see
- 4:31Speaker 4: what this game, I mean, we're such a sporting country
- 4:36Speaker 4: and we can do big events so very well. To
- 4:40Speaker 4: see these crowds, to see these events, whether it's in
- 4:43Speaker 4: Kansas City or Seattle, or Los Angeles or Atlanta or
- 4:47Speaker 4: Miami or Houston or Dallas, everywhere you go, it's been
- 4:53Speaker 4: met with just unbelievable enthusiasm by all that have been
- 4:58Speaker 4: around it. I've been talking to friends of mine that
- 5:00Speaker 4: have in Kansas City and family that are there, and
- 5:03Speaker 4: it's just, you know, Kansas City's got not just the
- 5:06Speaker 4: games themselves, but England, Argentina, the Netherlands, and Algeria are
- 5:11Speaker 4: all base camping in Kansas City as well, so there's
- 5:14Speaker 4: hundreds of thousands of people that are there just to
- 5:17Speaker 4: see their favorite national teams practice and train. I just
- 5:21Speaker 4: think it's been phenomenal. I thought last Friday night, the
- 5:23Speaker 4: atmosphere it's so far for the US men's national team
- 5:27Speaker 4: is so great. And the other thing is too It's
- 5:30Speaker 4: I've called enough of these games over the years and
- 5:32Speaker 4: seen them a lot of times. In these build ups
- 5:35Speaker 4: and these friendlies and these qualifiers, the United States will
- 5:38Speaker 4: play you know, Mexico, or they'll play Panama or somebody,
- 5:43Speaker 4: and it's a half and half crowd, if not more
- 5:45Speaker 4: the other way. These crowds are decidedly American. I would
- 5:49Speaker 4: expect the atmosphere up in Seattle today to be even
- 5:53Speaker 4: better than it was last Friday. Down to Los Angeles.
- 5:56Speaker 4: I just I think it's been fantastic, and I just
- 6:00Speaker 4: think the United States so far, again, we're only a
- 6:03Speaker 4: week into this thing, but I think it's been It's
- 6:05Speaker 4: carried off well. Same thing in Canada up in Vancouver
- 6:09Speaker 4: and in Toronto and down in Guadalajara, in Mexico City.
- 6:13Speaker 4: I just think so far the games have been really
- 6:16Speaker 4: good and for the most part, and the atmosphere has
- 6:19Speaker 4: been off the charts.
- 6:21Speaker 2: Yeah, so far, so good for the World Cup tournament.
- 6:24Speaker 2: And of course we'll be paying close attention the rest
- 6:27Speaker 2: of the way, and hopefully US men's national team can
- 6:29Speaker 2: do what Mexico did last night and they can punch
- 6:32Speaker 2: their ticket after two games, they can punch their ticket
- 6:35Speaker 2: out of the group stage. How likely do you think
- 6:38Speaker 2: that is it would take three points. I think it's
- 6:42Speaker 2: very I think it's likely. I mean, and again Polisic
- 6:46Speaker 2: not being in this is a big deal, but they're
- 6:49Speaker 2: better than Australia. This is the most deep and talented
- 6:51Speaker 2: roster the United States ever had. I think it's very
- 6:55Speaker 2: Even if they say, let's say they drew today and
- 6:58Speaker 2: they drew one to one or two two with with
- 7:00Speaker 2: Australia today, I still think it's likely they're going to
- 7:02Speaker 2: get out of the stage and maybe even still win
- 7:04Speaker 2: the group with a draw today. So I like the
- 7:08Speaker 2: United States chances. I said all along, I thought that
- 7:10Speaker 2: they would get to the quarterfinals. Depending on the health
- 7:14Speaker 2: and how they decide to play. There's a chance they
- 7:16Speaker 2: could get beyond that. But I certainly think my expectation
- 7:20Speaker 2: was win the group and win at least one knockout
- 7:22Speaker 2: round game, and I still think they're on part.
- 7:24Speaker 3: To do that.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Bill Riley is our guest here on the Sean O'Connell
- 7:28Speaker 2: Show Conversation, brought to you weekly by Handy and Handy
- 7:32Speaker 2: Handy Law Utah dot com. All right, let's talk about
- 7:35Speaker 2: the University of Utah. We talked about it, we wondered
- 7:39Speaker 2: about it, we speculated it on it. The Otro Capital deal,
- 7:43Speaker 2: the first of its kind private equity partnership between Utah
- 7:46Speaker 2: Athletics and private equity for Motro Capital to create Crimson
- 7:50Speaker 2: Brand partners and a new era of Utah Athletics is official.
- 7:54Speaker 2: It is signed, it is sealed. I guess we now
- 7:58Speaker 2: get to see what the delivery looks. It's like you
- 8:01Speaker 2: just mentioned, we're seventy six days away from kickoff. Is
- 8:04Speaker 2: there anything in your mind? Are we going to notice
- 8:06Speaker 2: anything different about this capital and fusion, this cash infusion
- 8:10Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty six football season.
- 8:14Speaker 4: That's a good question. I think still a lot of it.
- 8:16Speaker 4: Is it kind of unfolds. It's going to be interesting
- 8:19Speaker 4: to see how it plays out here. I mean, I
- 8:21Speaker 4: work up here and I'm going to be kind of
- 8:24Speaker 4: part of that, a little bit part of that world too,
- 8:27Speaker 4: working with it. So I'm really curious to see how
- 8:30Speaker 4: it rolls out. I know that they've got big plans
- 8:33Speaker 4: long term, but I'm really curious myself to see what
- 8:37Speaker 4: the short term impact will be at Rice Cycle Stadium.
- 8:40Speaker 4: I don't know if the average fan is going to
- 8:43Speaker 4: notice anything different in the short term. But again, it's
- 8:48Speaker 4: also new Sean that I'm very kind of, like everybody else,
- 8:53Speaker 4: kind of in the planning stages, seeing how this thing
- 8:55Speaker 4: rolls out. So we'll we'll see. I know everybody up
- 8:58Speaker 4: here is very exciting for it. It's been talked about
- 9:01Speaker 4: for you know, six seven, eight months now, so I
- 9:05Speaker 4: know everybody up here is very excited to see how
- 9:09Speaker 4: this thing begins to develop in the short term. But
- 9:12Speaker 4: as far as football, I'm kind of like everybody else,
- 9:15Speaker 4: I'm kind of in the waiting stage two to see
- 9:17Speaker 4: how things play out.
- 9:19Speaker 2: The biggest no brainer questioned for me, which has not
- 9:22Speaker 2: been the biggest no brainer answer to this point for me,
- 9:25Speaker 2: and that could just be a me problem, but is
- 9:28Speaker 2: whether or not this capital infusion this cash infusion is
- 9:32Speaker 2: ever going to find its way directly to players and
- 9:35Speaker 2: to NIL funds, And you know, Mark Carland joined Spence.
- 9:39Speaker 2: That conversation is available on the ESPN seven hundred app,
- 9:43Speaker 2: but on ESPN seven hundred sports dot Com, and Spence
- 9:46Speaker 2: asked the question, and Mark did a good job of
- 9:48Speaker 2: answering it without really I think, being fully committal or
- 9:52Speaker 2: fully clear on whether or not that was an easy
- 9:54Speaker 2: mechanism for outrocapital of that money to come into the
- 9:58Speaker 2: hands of student athletes directly. Do you have a sense
- 10:02Speaker 2: on whether or not this either directly comes straight through
- 10:05Speaker 2: Crimson brand partners to student athletes I legitimate NIL deals
- 10:10Speaker 2: or maybe the thought is that it can free up
- 10:12Speaker 2: booster money that would traditionally go towards the programs directly,
- 10:16Speaker 2: and now it's now that money from them, from the
- 10:19Speaker 2: Huntspins and whoever else could be funneled to student athletes instead,
- 10:23Speaker 2: because that's where Utah's got a They've done a good job,
- 10:26Speaker 2: but that's where they could obviously improve, like everybody can.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Do you know if that this new signed, sealed, delivered
- 10:33Speaker 2: deal makes that more possible.
- 10:34Speaker 4: I don't know that for sure, Sean. I know the
- 10:37Speaker 4: Crimson Brand Partners will be you know, working hand in
- 10:41Speaker 4: hand with you know, sports and athletes and working to
- 10:46Speaker 4: enhance nil and things like that. But I don't know
- 10:48Speaker 4: what the what the flow of money looks like from
- 10:53Speaker 4: you know, the new deal through Crimson Brand Partners, through Athletics,
- 10:57Speaker 4: any of that stuff. I don't know what those mechanisms are.
- 11:00Speaker 4: That's those discussions are being had in meetings above my
- 11:03Speaker 4: pay grade. But I do know the Crimson Brand Partners
- 11:07Speaker 4: one of its core core missions is creating more revenue
- 11:13Speaker 4: that will flow directly into Utah Athletics to help elevate
- 11:18Speaker 4: and support sports marketing, you know, fan experience, all of
- 11:24Speaker 4: that stuff across the board. So but as far as
- 11:27Speaker 4: where that money is coming from and where it will
- 11:29Speaker 4: go directly that that, I don't know.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Have you had a.
- 11:33Speaker 2: Chance to talk with the new director of Athletic performance,
- 11:36Speaker 2: the strength and conditioning coach Steve Saunders, who replaced Greg
- 11:40Speaker 2: Argus in kind of a surprising move, sort of a
- 11:44Speaker 2: last minute change after springball.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Have you ever a chance to have any conversations with him?
- 11:49Speaker 4: I have not. It's interesting you say that. I've been
- 11:52Speaker 4: actually this week starting a podcast series with a lot
- 11:57Speaker 4: of the new coaching staff and on you know, kind
- 12:00Speaker 4: of performance staff people around Utah football. These podcasts will
- 12:05Speaker 4: kind of drop on both the video and audio platform
- 12:09Speaker 4: in July. But I have not had a chance to
- 12:11Speaker 4: talk to him yet. I've heard good things. I know
- 12:14Speaker 4: that our mutual good friend Eric Weddle is a big
- 12:17Speaker 4: fan of his, But I haven't had a chance to
- 12:19Speaker 4: talk to him.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Many of you, no, I haven't, And that's why I
- 12:22Speaker 2: was asking you. I And part of the reason I
- 12:24Speaker 2: ask is because this is kind of a quiet time
- 12:28Speaker 2: from a fan perspective for Utah football. And obviously you
- 12:32Speaker 2: dismiss players for a month in the summer and let
- 12:34Speaker 2: them go back and you know, see their families and
- 12:36Speaker 2: things like that. But the summertime is like a very
- 12:40Speaker 2: very incredibly crucial time for speed development for guys like
- 12:46Speaker 2: I mean, you've got Kelvin Obat on the roster this year,
- 12:48Speaker 2: who before it's said and done, he's probably gonna gain
- 12:50Speaker 2: thirty pounds of muscle in a Utah strength program.
- 12:53Speaker 3: How much of that is coming on this offseason? Is
- 12:56Speaker 3: his body adjusting to it? Well?
- 12:57Speaker 2: I mean, these are really really crucial months for Morgan
- 13:00Speaker 2: Scali and his staff but there's also rules about how
- 13:03Speaker 2: much they can be in contact with the team.
- 13:06Speaker 3: Where the strength and conditioning coach.
- 13:08Speaker 2: He effectively becomes your head coach in this time of year.
- 13:11Speaker 2: And that's why I want to talk to him, and
- 13:13Speaker 2: I wanted to see if you did.
- 13:14Speaker 4: No, I haven't had a chance. Ye, it's funny you
- 13:16Speaker 4: mentioned Kelvin Obot. I did have a nice long conversation
- 13:20Speaker 4: with Jordan Gross and I asked him. I said, Jordan,
- 13:23Speaker 4: what's something Utah fans would want to know about Kelvin Obot?
- 13:28Speaker 4: Because you know him, you've coached him, you've known him
- 13:30Speaker 4: for three years. He's kind of like one of your own.
- 13:34Speaker 4: He's followed you here from Fruitland, Idaho. And he said,
- 13:37Speaker 4: he is the most studious lineman of his age I've
- 13:44Speaker 4: ever been around. He is an absolute positive sponge. He
- 13:50Speaker 4: cannot get enough. He's always asking me for more information,
- 13:54Speaker 4: more feedback on line play and technique and what he
- 13:58Speaker 4: should be doing. So I thought that was really interesting
- 14:02Speaker 4: to me. It's funny at these programs, especially like Utah,
- 14:06Speaker 4: the physical side of it always seems to take care
- 14:09Speaker 4: of itself. These programs have such good strength and conditioning
- 14:14Speaker 4: and performance coaches, these days. I'm always one that is
- 14:20Speaker 4: concerned with if you want to become truly elite, you've
- 14:23Speaker 4: got to put in the work yourself. And to me,
- 14:26Speaker 4: that work is the classroom work in the study. And
- 14:30Speaker 4: to hear Jordans say that got me kind of excited
- 14:32Speaker 4: about Kevin Obot.
- 14:35Speaker 2: One of the more interesting off the field sagas in
- 14:38Speaker 2: recent memory in college football came to a close earlier
- 14:42Speaker 2: this week. Brendan Soorsby and Texas Tech put down their
- 14:46Speaker 2: swords and said, all right, fine, I'm just going to
- 14:48Speaker 2: go into the supplemental draft. We're not going to continue
- 14:50Speaker 2: this billable hours nightmare of lawyers countersuing each other.
- 14:55Speaker 3: And you know, they waved.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Brendan Soorsby and Texas Tech, by extension, ended up having
- 14:59Speaker 2: to wave the white flag here after really kind of
- 15:02Speaker 2: an embarrassing period in my opinion, of digging their heels
- 15:05Speaker 2: in and making these false flag arguments and things like that.
- 15:09Speaker 2: I just wanted to get your perspective on the Brendan Soresby,
- 15:14Speaker 2: you know, resolution of him not playing for Texas Tech
- 15:17Speaker 2: this year.
- 15:18Speaker 4: I had in my mind, because you're a Game of
- 15:20Speaker 4: Thrones guy, I had in my mind that visual of
- 15:23Speaker 4: john snow standing by himself as the army came charging
- 15:28Speaker 4: toward him before his sister who I don't know why
- 15:31Speaker 4: she waited Sansa to the last minute to wave the
- 15:35Speaker 4: other army in from the flank, except the other army
- 15:38Speaker 4: wasn't coming for Johnson to support Brendan Soresby. In Texas Tech,
- 15:43Speaker 4: they were kind of standing there waving their swords against
- 15:46Speaker 4: the army charging on. It was it was to use
- 15:51Speaker 4: your terms. I thought it was a rather unseemly argument
- 15:56Speaker 4: in fight by Texas Tech. They would not have supported
- 16:00Speaker 4: this had it been a quarterback at Arkansas or Oklahoma State,
- 16:04Speaker 4: they wouldn't have done that. They dug their heels in
- 16:07Speaker 4: because at the end of the day they brought him
- 16:11Speaker 4: on board and they were paying him five million dollars
- 16:13Speaker 4: or four million dollars or whatever whatever it turned out
- 16:16Speaker 4: to be. They should have dug in and said we're
- 16:20Speaker 4: going to support Brendan Soresby. Because Brendan Soresby says he's
- 16:23Speaker 4: got a gambling problem and a mental health issue that
- 16:27Speaker 4: he's got to deal with, but he's bet on not
- 16:30Speaker 4: only his own team and his own sport, but others
- 16:33Speaker 4: as well, and we're going to stand by him and
- 16:35Speaker 4: let him get some help. We've got good quarterbacks in
- 16:38Speaker 4: the program. Heck, will Hammond is a very good quarterback
- 16:41Speaker 4: who's one of ours who should be back very soon.
- 16:44Speaker 4: They didn't approach it the right way. Everybody could see it,
- 16:49Speaker 4: and I think the Big Twelve did the right thing.
- 16:51Speaker 4: You know, they stood up and they said, we're not
- 16:53Speaker 4: going to be dictated to by an individual school. We're
- 16:57Speaker 4: going to do what's right. Fifteen of our sixteen members
- 17:00Speaker 4: are against this, and the rest of college football is
- 17:03Speaker 4: standing against this as well, and I think I think
- 17:06Speaker 4: Texas Tech saw the writing on the wall and they said,
- 17:09Speaker 4: this is not going to be something that reflects well
- 17:11Speaker 4: on us now in the future, and we've got to
- 17:15Speaker 4: probably make make a move. And Brendan Soorsby, you know,
- 17:19Speaker 4: he's going to have a chance to play football at
- 17:21Speaker 4: the next level. Maybe he's not going to get paid
- 17:24Speaker 4: great sums of money this year, but if he's good
- 17:26Speaker 4: enough to play, and he could spend the year getting
- 17:29Speaker 4: himself ready for a draft or ready for a supplemental draft,
- 17:32Speaker 4: and also working on himself as well, I think it's
- 17:35Speaker 4: the right situation. It got ugly for a minute, but
- 17:38Speaker 4: I think the resolution at the end was probably the
- 17:41Speaker 4: right one. Would you agree?
- 17:42Speaker 2: I do agree, And also the funny thing for me
- 17:46Speaker 2: is right And I know it's always like perspective, and
- 17:49Speaker 2: his overall numbers are good, and his talent is obviously there.
- 17:52Speaker 2: But if you just took the snapshot of Brendan soorsby
- 17:56Speaker 2: at Rice Cycle Stadium last year, you would not even
- 18:00Speaker 2: believe that this national news story, this fight was all
- 18:04Speaker 2: over that guy, because I mean, he's vulnerable as a quarterback.
- 18:08Speaker 3: He's someone that if if you've got.
- 18:09Speaker 2: The right film study ahead of time, and you got
- 18:12Speaker 2: the right defensive pressure, you could make him look really,
- 18:15Speaker 2: really bad. It's not I don't think he was going
- 18:18Speaker 2: to be the savior of Texas Tech anyway, But I
- 18:20Speaker 2: think the right thing happened at the end.
- 18:23Speaker 4: Well, I do too, And I think the numbers were
- 18:25Speaker 4: Sean Krame, I think he's OH for November the last
- 18:28Speaker 4: two years. I think he's for a eight or something
- 18:33Speaker 4: like that close to it the last two years in November,
- 18:36Speaker 4: he did not play well. Utah gave the game, game
- 18:39Speaker 4: plan or blueprint to everybody else. And if you read
- 18:43Speaker 4: maybe Bruce was Bruce Feldman's article in the athletic He
- 18:47Speaker 4: talked to some big twelve coaches and I'm not so sure.
- 18:49Speaker 4: One of them may not have been on the Utah staff.
- 18:51Speaker 4: They were all anonymous. But he did not play well
- 18:56Speaker 4: against press man and defenses that really got after him
- 18:59Speaker 4: in Utah did that. He had a couple of big
- 19:02Speaker 4: big one big run of one big pass down the field.
- 19:04Speaker 4: I think the Cyrus Allen. But he was eleven for
- 19:06Speaker 4: thirty three to two picks. He didn't play well, and
- 19:10Speaker 4: I think he's got some tools to be a good quarterback,
- 19:13Speaker 4: but I'm not so sure. I'm not so sure that
- 19:17Speaker 4: he's going to be a top end draft pick. I
- 19:21Speaker 4: think if he goes in the supplemental draft, it might
- 19:23Speaker 4: be a fourth or fifth round pick. Some of that
- 19:25Speaker 4: might have to do with the off field stuff, but
- 19:27Speaker 4: some of it might have to do with the football
- 19:28Speaker 4: stuff as well.
- 19:31Speaker 2: Should Cincinnati be getting phone calls right now? Also, because
- 19:34Speaker 2: you know Soresby his agent, this watchdog organization, I can't
- 19:40Speaker 2: remember which one that one of the apps that flags
- 19:42Speaker 2: irregular activity allegedly told Cincinnati before the twenty twenty five season,
- 19:49Speaker 2: and Soworsby's agent said they knew for two years and
- 19:52Speaker 2: they kind of did the Homer Simpson fading into the
- 19:55Speaker 2: bushes thing for most of this conversation. But should Cincinnati
- 19:59Speaker 2: get a little second look from the Big Twelve and
- 20:01Speaker 2: the rest of college football?
- 20:03Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they. I mean, if you're doing the
- 20:05Speaker 4: right thing, you probably should. Everybody might just want this
- 20:10Speaker 4: thing to go away. But if I'm somebody else that's
- 20:14Speaker 4: not a big fan of Cincinnati, maybe I raise that
- 20:16Speaker 4: question said and say, how much did you guys really
- 20:19Speaker 4: know about what was going on with this young man
- 20:22Speaker 4: when you brought him in in for the last couple
- 20:23Speaker 4: of years. You know, I think everybody, now that we've
- 20:27Speaker 4: got this resolution he's not going to play college football anymore,
- 20:30Speaker 4: I think a lot of people would probably probably at
- 20:32Speaker 4: Cincinnati too, would probably like it just to go away.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Well, the University of Utah be among the many schools
- 20:41Speaker 2: that are calling Parker Kingston and his representation in these
- 20:45Speaker 2: next few days.
- 20:47Speaker 4: I don't think so. I mean, I don't. I don't.
- 20:52Speaker 4: According to what I read, charges might be refiled again.
- 20:55Speaker 4: According to the story that I read, I'm not sure
- 20:58Speaker 4: that anybody really wants to touch that right now now
- 21:00Speaker 4: unless there was an absolute resolution on it. But if
- 21:03Speaker 4: something could come back to surface. Again, I'm not sure
- 21:06Speaker 4: if you're a program, if you would want to, you
- 21:09Speaker 4: would want to bring that in and then have it,
- 21:11Speaker 4: you know, and then he had him to still have
- 21:13Speaker 4: to deal with a legal situation. So I don't know that.
- 21:16Speaker 4: I haven't talked to Scaley or anybody about that. It
- 21:18Speaker 4: would seem unlikely to me, though. What about I mean
- 21:22Speaker 4: is do you think he's fielding a lot of phone
- 21:23Speaker 4: calls from schools?
- 21:24Speaker 3: Well, I know that.
- 21:25Speaker 2: There were some that were interested, and it was even
- 21:29Speaker 2: some SEC schools. And I think there's two reasons for that,
- 21:32Speaker 2: Because I think in the SEC they only care about
- 21:36Speaker 2: like the letter of the law, and they're not worried
- 21:38Speaker 2: about any of.
- 21:38Speaker 3: The pr stuff associated with it.
- 21:40Speaker 2: So if he was all the way exonerated, all the
- 21:42Speaker 2: way cleared, then it would make sense for them. But
- 21:45Speaker 2: because there is that sort of hanging question mark, I
- 21:48Speaker 2: think it changes the dynamics significantly. And I said on
- 21:51Speaker 2: the show yesterday that like, let anyone else call him
- 21:54Speaker 2: Utah Camp, it just doesn't make any sense too close
- 21:58Speaker 2: to home. The rivalry obviously plays a huge part in
- 22:02Speaker 2: how people are going to feel about this, and the
- 22:05Speaker 2: fact that you know, Morgan Scalley's the first year coach,
- 22:07Speaker 2: only adds to that. So I think that for for many, many,
- 22:11Speaker 2: many off the field reasons, but even on the field reasons,
- 22:14Speaker 2: you don't even entertain that idea as the university.
- 22:18Speaker 4: Well, Utah's got a really here's the other thing though,
- 22:20Speaker 4: Utah's got a really good wide receiver room this year.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the on the field reasons.
- 22:25Speaker 4: It's like, if you're desk, the deepest receiver room they've
- 22:29Speaker 4: had in years. If ever, I talked to Chad Bumpus
- 22:32Speaker 4: this week as well. He he he is just glowing
- 22:36Speaker 4: about this wide receiver room, and so is Kevin mcgiven.
- 22:39Speaker 4: So I will I would tell you there's there's a
- 22:42Speaker 4: litany of reasons why I wouldn't. But if I was Utah,
- 22:45Speaker 4: I don't think that you really need to. You've got
- 22:47Speaker 4: a lot of really good weapons to that you've got
- 22:51Speaker 4: to look at that you know you've got, you've already
- 22:53Speaker 4: got in your program that have been working there. So
- 22:56Speaker 4: I I think if you're a Utah football fan, you've
- 22:59Speaker 4: got to be excited about what you've got coming this year.
- 23:01Speaker 4: With guys like Braden Pagan and Kyrie Scholz, and Ricky
- 23:04Speaker 4: Johnson and Creed Whittemore. You know, Larry Simmons is back,
- 23:08Speaker 4: Dadrian Zipperer. Not to mention, you know, the tight ends.
- 23:12Speaker 4: Not to mention some other weapons that you can use there.
- 23:15Speaker 4: I know talking to the offensive staff that they're really
- 23:18Speaker 4: really excited about all the pieces that they've got to
- 23:22Speaker 4: play with this year. So yeah, it'll be interesting to
- 23:26Speaker 4: see what happens with that. But I would I would
- 23:28Speaker 4: say Utah is probably pretty happy with where they're at
- 23:30Speaker 4: right now.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Well roughly an hour away from first kick. What does
- 23:33Speaker 2: the Bill Riley plan for US men's national team versus Australia.
- 23:39Speaker 4: To be as red, white and blue as I possibly
- 23:41Speaker 4: can from about one o'clock to three o'clock and hopefully
- 23:45Speaker 4: see a win at lumen Field today. Hey, by the way,
- 23:47Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you what did you make of
- 23:51Speaker 4: UFC two point fifty at the White House?
- 23:55Speaker 2: I mean, look, as the PFL guy, I obviously wanted
- 23:58Speaker 2: I watched that because I love the fights, but I
- 24:01Speaker 2: also wanted there to be like something to make fun of,
- 24:04Speaker 2: something to be like, oh, this is stupid all they
- 24:07Speaker 2: completely wasted money on this, This is a terrible look
- 24:10Speaker 2: and look there's a lot of ways you can turn
- 24:12Speaker 2: this into a political discussion, not doing so if you're
- 24:16Speaker 2: just talking about the sports viewer experience, the fight fan
- 24:19Speaker 2: experience watching that, and you're an American, a red blooded
- 24:23Speaker 2: American like you and I are, I mean, they knocked
- 24:26Speaker 2: it out of the park. It was painfully awesome for someone.
- 24:29Speaker 4: That real fight was unbelievable. I know you're a Justin
- 24:33Speaker 4: Gaetchee guy, right, you enjoy watching him fight?
- 24:36Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 24:37Speaker 2: Who doesn't. I mean, he's he's your favorite fighter's favorite fighter.
- 24:40Speaker 2: He is just he's built for this.
- 24:41Speaker 3: He is the.
- 24:42Speaker 2: Modern American gladiator. And that performance that I think he
- 24:47Speaker 2: should retire off that performance. I know there's a lot
- 24:49Speaker 2: of conversation about him wanting a couple more fights, but
- 24:53Speaker 2: it's not going to get any better than that that
- 24:55Speaker 2: you walk out of the office his.
- 24:58Speaker 4: Age, And I'm be honest, coming in, I thought that
- 25:01Speaker 4: the guy that he was fight what's his name starts
- 25:03Speaker 4: with a te touch. I thought Toporia was gonna beat him.
- 25:08Speaker 3: I just did.
- 25:09Speaker 4: He looked quicker early and Gaechee just was just peppering
- 25:13Speaker 4: him and he just the eyes and the nose and
- 25:17Speaker 4: oh my, I mean that was an unbelievable final fight.
- 25:20Speaker 3: It really was, It really was. It was incredible. It's
- 25:22Speaker 3: a Fight of the Year candidate.
- 25:24Speaker 2: It is the definitive performance of Justin Gaigie's career on
- 25:28Speaker 2: the biggest stage he's ever been on. He's been an
- 25:30Speaker 2: interim champ previously, but he's never been the undisputed lightweight champ.
- 25:34Speaker 2: That is the weight class, that's the deepest weight class
- 25:37Speaker 2: in the UFC, and he won it at thirty seven
- 25:39Speaker 2: years of age. I mean, come on, does it truly
- 25:42Speaker 2: doesn't get better than that. His mom his dad are
- 25:45Speaker 2: in VIP seats on the White House lawn and talking
- 25:50Speaker 2: with the President and the First Lady after the fight
- 25:53Speaker 2: is over. Like, it doesn't go up from there in
- 25:57Speaker 2: pretty much any sport, but especially in MMA.
- 26:00Speaker 3: So yeah, I was I'm petty Bill, you know this
- 26:03Speaker 3: about me.
- 26:04Speaker 2: I was like tuning in, kind of hoping that they
- 26:07Speaker 2: UFC would stub their toe in some way on that broadcast.
- 26:10Speaker 2: But from the national anthem and fly over all the
- 26:13Speaker 2: way to the final moments of the final fight, it
- 26:16Speaker 2: was pretty stellar.
- 26:18Speaker 4: He should take a cue from the guy I'm talking
- 26:21Speaker 4: to right now, do the mic drop and walk off
- 26:24Speaker 4: the stage.
- 26:25Speaker 3: I mean, there's no reason not to. There really isn't.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Like what's he waiting for.
- 26:29Speaker 2: He's waiting for another young killer to come up and
- 26:33Speaker 2: steal that belt off him, walk away while you've got
- 26:35Speaker 2: it hung over your shoulder.
- 26:36Speaker 1: Man.
- 26:36Speaker 2: But you know he's wired differently than the rest of us.
- 26:39Speaker 2: So I'm not going to tell him what to do,
- 26:42Speaker 2: Bill before I let you go Utah dot Com. Handy
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- 27:47Speaker 2: Bill appreciate your time today, enjoy US men's national team action.
- 27:52Speaker 3: And we'll chat again soon.
- 27:53Speaker 4: Thanks an touch you soon.
- 27:55Speaker 2: That's Bill Riley, Voice of the Youths, brought to you
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