Latest / Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show / Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 6-17-26 with Doc, Suzi and Bill
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- 2:44Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. It is
- 2:48Speaker 3: the seventeenth of June twenty twenty six, and the little
- 2:55Speaker 3: outdoor thermometer I had was at one O one or
- 2:58Speaker 3: one O two when I walked in. It's the one
- 3:00Speaker 3: out in the sun a little more realistic. We've had
- 3:04Speaker 3: lots of rain around here, and today we got some sunshine.
- 3:08Speaker 1: It rained a little bit this morning, but it's clearing up.
- 3:11Speaker 3: And we got Susie and Bill and myself all on zoom.
- 3:16Speaker 3: If you're listening to this show, obviously it won't be
- 3:19Speaker 3: live tonight unless you could tap into zoom because we
- 3:24Speaker 3: had some bandwidth issues for the frequency out there and
- 3:29Speaker 3: Susie's part of the world and she's getting that updated.
- 3:33Speaker 3: So we should be good to go next week.
- 3:35Speaker 1: And you'll hear us again live on Rumble. So anyway, Susie, Bill,
- 3:42Speaker 1: you guys want to say hello, go ahead.
- 3:44Speaker 4: Good evening everyone, thanks for joining us, Ali folks.
- 3:50Speaker 3: All right, and Susie, I was looking talks about the
- 3:55Speaker 3: width of the frequency and the higher speed, and so
- 3:59Speaker 3: maybe would explain how the bandwidth helps, because how you
- 4:04Speaker 3: can get frequency moved through there.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Let's see, here's what it said.
- 4:11Speaker 3: System that utilizes a significantly wider frequency spectrum than standard
- 4:16Speaker 3: narrow band alternatives can achieve higher data rates, improved resolution,
- 4:23Speaker 3: and greater accuracy. Sounds like what we need on your
- 4:27Speaker 3: in over there, and you will be an electronic transmitting
- 4:32Speaker 3: wild woman from Harper's l EPTA. Yep, yeah, all right,
- 4:41Speaker 3: before we jump into the show tonight.
- 4:43Speaker 1: I've had a bad week, and.
- 4:49Speaker 3: You know, after a while, things start piling up on
- 4:52Speaker 3: you and you feel like you're carrying all that stuff
- 4:54Speaker 3: on your shoulders. Susie's a specialist at that, and I
- 5:00Speaker 3: just thought i'd tell people, because you know, you don't
- 5:03Speaker 3: always hear all of our things and everything always sounds perfect,
- 5:07Speaker 3: but it has not been for me this.
- 5:09Speaker 1: Last five days.
- 5:12Speaker 3: You've heard me probably before if you listen to the
- 5:15Speaker 3: show talk about the number thirteen, and especially Friday to thirteenth.
- 5:23Speaker 3: It's always been a good thing for me. Well, this month,
- 5:28Speaker 3: my truck needs to get that emission inspection. I think
- 5:33Speaker 3: that's so funny because we're not doing anything about safety.
- 5:37Speaker 3: We threw that out the window. But the emissions make
- 5:41Speaker 3: a lot of people a lot of money. We added
- 5:44Speaker 3: things to the vehicles that do not help the vehicle
- 5:47Speaker 3: in any way. The cars aren't as good as they
- 5:51Speaker 3: were when we were growing up, and they're not helping
- 5:55Speaker 3: the pollution at all.
- 5:56Speaker 1: So they'd like to tell you it is, but it's not. Anyway.
- 6:00Speaker 3: My truck was due for inspection, and when I went in,
- 6:06Speaker 3: they said, it's telling us a lot of stuff's not
- 6:10Speaker 3: ready to test. So he said you need to go
- 6:13Speaker 3: drive it for like fifty two one hundred miles and
- 6:16Speaker 3: bring it back. Well, I don't drive very much because
- 6:20Speaker 3: I have a home office, so that's a lot for me.
- 6:24Speaker 3: So after about thirty miles I took it back and
- 6:29Speaker 3: the guy said, no, I'd go. I'd go more so anyway,
- 6:33Speaker 3: on the thirteenth, which I think was Saturday, I figured
- 6:39Speaker 3: i'd driven more, and I pulled.
- 6:43Speaker 1: In this little pace that I've used before.
- 6:47Speaker 3: I don't know much about their technical abilities, but I've
- 6:50Speaker 3: used them for oil change and tire.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Rotation and inspection.
- 6:56Speaker 3: I stopped in, and I guess it's busier than look
- 7:00Speaker 3: because they have a back area and a lot of
- 7:03Speaker 3: technicians are back there, I guess. But anyway, the young
- 7:06Speaker 3: man that does the inspection and testing comes out, and
- 7:14Speaker 3: I have a check engine light on, so he takes
- 7:19Speaker 3: it back and they run a test and they come
- 7:21Speaker 3: back out, but he doesn't say nothing to me because
- 7:24Speaker 3: he's busy, and he goes to the next vehicle, in
- 7:26Speaker 3: the next vehicle and doing whatever they're doing, and he
- 7:29Speaker 3: forgets to come back to me. So I'm sitting there waiting,
- 7:33Speaker 3: and finally I said, you know, what'd you find?
- 7:37Speaker 1: And he bringing me a paper.
- 7:39Speaker 3: And it shows bank two not up to threshold, which
- 7:44Speaker 3: is a fancy way of saying that the catalytic converter
- 7:48Speaker 3: or the two sensors aren't right. Well, I said, okay,
- 7:54Speaker 3: give me an estimate of what it needs. That doesn't
- 7:57Speaker 3: happen for like ever, and then Finally they bring it
- 8:02Speaker 3: to me and it's got a bunch of stuff printed
- 8:04Speaker 3: on there. But he said, ignore that. Go by this
- 8:08Speaker 3: where it says, oh, two centsor. But he said, your
- 8:11Speaker 3: old two centsor is bad on the driver's side, but
- 8:15Speaker 3: the paperwork says the right side. So I'm thinking these
- 8:18Speaker 3: guys are having a bad day. Then I said, well,
- 8:22Speaker 3: where's my keys. Oh, they're in the truck, Sir, I said, no,
- 8:26Speaker 3: I checked, they're not in my truck.
- 8:29Speaker 1: He can't find my keys.
- 8:31Speaker 3: He was hurrying up to the next oil change or
- 8:34Speaker 3: inspection and didn't put my keys back in the truck.
- 8:40Speaker 3: So now I'm thinking, okay, thirteen's always been good to me.
- 8:44Speaker 1: What's going on?
- 8:46Speaker 3: And I wait and I look everywhere, and he looks everywhere,
- 8:52Speaker 3: and he keeps looking and.
- 8:55Speaker 1: He can't find my keys.
- 8:57Speaker 3: So now he's calling people they have cars that he
- 9:01Speaker 3: worked on who are already back home, thinking maybe he'd
- 9:05Speaker 3: dropped the keys in that car.
- 9:09Speaker 1: That didn't come up.
- 9:10Speaker 3: So he's still looking and he's gone to the back shop,
- 9:14Speaker 3: the front shop, checked the ground, looked inside of my truck,
- 9:18Speaker 3: like and the poor kid, he's a young guy, and
- 9:21Speaker 3: he's really stressing So finally he goes back to where
- 9:25Speaker 3: he was doing the scan and there was a little
- 9:30Speaker 3: drawer that pulls out, and the keys had fallen behind
- 9:34Speaker 3: that drawer. He must have dropped them on top of
- 9:37Speaker 3: the drawer and when he pushed.
- 9:38Speaker 1: It back in, they fell behind it.
- 9:40Speaker 3: So after about an hour and a half of no
- 9:43Speaker 3: keys and an hour and a half of waiting for nothing,
- 9:48Speaker 3: I'm finally out of there. And I said, you know,
- 9:52Speaker 3: they told me driver's side. Now they're saying two cents
- 9:56Speaker 3: of problem on the right side. I said, I'm not
- 9:59Speaker 3: going back there. I can't.
- 10:00Speaker 1: I can't trust them. Something's not right.
- 10:04Speaker 3: So there's a shop by me that I know their
- 10:06Speaker 3: works quality, but their prices are not cheap.
- 10:10Speaker 1: And they tell you we're not.
- 10:11Speaker 3: The cheapest, but we're the we're best where your alternative
- 10:16Speaker 3: to a dealership a little cheaper, and we work on
- 10:21Speaker 3: everything and we get it right.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So I go there and.
- 10:25Speaker 3: I tell them I had two catalytic converters put on
- 10:30Speaker 3: this truck a little over a year ago. Does that
- 10:34Speaker 3: mean it's o two censors? And they said, well, we
- 10:38Speaker 3: don't know. We're gonna have to run all the stuff.
- 10:41Speaker 3: So they run all the diagnostics, and he told me,
- 10:44Speaker 3: I'll let you know in a couple hours. They gave
- 10:46Speaker 3: me a ride home. Well six hours later, I haven't
- 10:50Speaker 3: heard anything, and I'm calling back saying, okay, what's going on,
- 10:57Speaker 3: And the guy says, let me go get eyes on
- 11:00Speaker 3: your truck and I will call you right back.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Two hours later, no phone call.
- 11:09Speaker 3: Now I'm not happy no more. I called them and
- 11:13Speaker 3: I said, what's going on. You said you'd call right back.
- 11:16Speaker 3: This is a long right back. We're still looking at it.
- 11:21Speaker 3: So then they called back and they said it's not
- 11:24Speaker 3: the O two censor. It's your catalytic converters. They used
- 11:29Speaker 3: after market cheap ones and they're breaking down.
- 11:34Speaker 1: I said, well, that's nice. They didn't tell me that
- 11:37Speaker 1: they were not going to work.
- 11:39Speaker 3: So he said, if you're going to do it right
- 11:41Speaker 3: and you don't want to have to pay for labor
- 11:43Speaker 3: later on, you need to do both catalytic converters and
- 11:49Speaker 3: all four O two sensors at the same time, because
- 11:52Speaker 3: there's two up front and two downstream. He said, Otherwise
- 11:56Speaker 3: you pay for the labor twice or more. So I said,
- 12:01Speaker 3: oh god, I did not need to hear this not
- 12:04Speaker 3: that long ago. The refrigerator died, the coffee maker died,
- 12:10Speaker 3: and my transmission. I just paid off the refrigerator this
- 12:17Speaker 3: last week. The coffee maker, of course, I paid off
- 12:20Speaker 3: a long time ago. The transmission's coming down, but it's
- 12:24Speaker 3: not paid off yet. And I said, so, how much
- 12:28Speaker 3: is all this going to cost?
- 12:29Speaker 4: Me?
- 12:29Speaker 3: And I said, are you sure of what you're telling me?
- 12:32Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, we'll send you some stuff. And
- 12:35Speaker 3: they showed me all the tests according to Ford and
- 12:41Speaker 3: all the catalytic converters were so far off to chart
- 12:46Speaker 3: it was terrible. But what's that about this is we
- 12:49Speaker 3: don't need them on a vehicle at all. They serve
- 12:51Speaker 3: no good purpose for us. It's all government stuff and
- 12:55Speaker 3: somebody like an al Gore and a John Kerry is
- 13:00Speaker 3: working with them companies to make money and all that
- 13:02Speaker 3: kind of stuff. So anyway, turns out catalytic converters are
- 13:07Speaker 3: a little over one thousand dollars each and the O
- 13:11Speaker 3: two centsors and all that is another and had special
- 13:16Speaker 3: gaskets because it's very high temp next to the exhaust system.
- 13:22Speaker 3: So when they got all done, it was almost forty
- 13:25Speaker 3: four hundred dollars good. And I said, you send me
- 13:29Speaker 3: things for coupons all the time, and you put me
- 13:33Speaker 3: through hell today not getting back to me like you said.
- 13:37Speaker 1: See what you can do to get it lower.
- 13:39Speaker 3: So they ended up getting it down to forty one hundred,
- 13:42Speaker 3: so they saved me about three hundred bucks. But I said,
- 13:45Speaker 3: I don't have forty one hundred dollars. So guess what now,
- 13:49Speaker 3: I got to put it on a card, and then
- 13:52Speaker 3: on the card they'll start charging very high interests like
- 13:55Speaker 3: thirty forty dollars a month immediately. So what I have
- 13:59Speaker 3: to do is put on the card and then transfer
- 14:02Speaker 3: it to a card that does a balance transfer for
- 14:08Speaker 3: twelve months with no charge.
- 14:11Speaker 1: So that was my wonderful thing.
- 14:13Speaker 3: And then on top of that, our little dog, Roscoe,
- 14:16Speaker 3: our little shelter, the last of our dogs, he's reached
- 14:22Speaker 3: that point whereas his mama says it's time, and I
- 14:27Speaker 3: don't like that. As a doctor, I never want to
- 14:29Speaker 3: give in, but she's right. He's really having a hard
- 14:34Speaker 3: time and I don't want to see him suffer. And
- 14:38Speaker 3: so that is expensive. And that with the truck, which
- 14:46Speaker 3: I just got the truck back today. It's been a
- 14:49Speaker 3: bad five days of really rotten five days.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Any thanks, Susyo, my misfortune.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Well, I mean the first thing that comes to mind is,
- 15:04Speaker 4: you know, your inclination to get a puppy, you know,
- 15:11Speaker 4: And I'll just think about the.
- 15:13Speaker 6: Timing of that.
- 15:14Speaker 4: And you know how Skip came into y'all's life, you know,
- 15:19Speaker 4: at a time that was fixing to be tough. You know,
- 15:24Speaker 4: we don't totally understand everything all the time, but I
- 15:31Speaker 4: think that was God's way of saying, I know, this
- 15:36Speaker 4: puppy that needs a family, and you're fixing the need
- 15:40Speaker 4: this puppy. And the truck thing man that it, you know,
- 15:47Speaker 4: it hits hard. It irritates the crap out of me.
- 15:50Speaker 4: I saw a short little video on Facebook and it
- 15:56Speaker 4: was a some muscle car. It could have been a
- 16:00Speaker 4: chavelle SS, you know, the big block. What is that
- 16:05Speaker 4: for twenty eight for twenty nine you know gas guzzler?
- 16:09Speaker 4: And it said something and I'm paraphrasing, it says something
- 16:14Speaker 4: along the lines of, you know, you people out there
- 16:19Speaker 4: think you're so high and mighty.
- 16:21Speaker 6: With your.
- 16:24Speaker 4: Evs that you have to replace every five years in
- 16:28Speaker 4: your expensive batteries that go into the landfill, why don't
- 16:33Speaker 4: you try driving one of these that last.
- 16:35Speaker 6: For sixty years.
- 16:37Speaker 4: I like that, and so I you know, I think
- 16:40Speaker 4: about that. You know, if only I had, you know,
- 16:44Speaker 4: if I could go buy whatever vehicle I wanted, whatever,
- 16:48Speaker 4: it would be a mustag, you know, Mark one. It
- 16:53Speaker 4: would be big old boss engine. And I think, don't
- 17:00Speaker 4: they give you an exemption as a classic car from
- 17:05Speaker 4: all of this emissions bs?
- 17:08Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it doesn't apply at all. That's just like motorcycles.
- 17:12Speaker 3: They don't even inspect the motorcycle anymore.
- 17:15Speaker 1: Well, you know, I argue a lot of money.
- 17:18Speaker 4: Well, I saw one roll across Barrett Jackson recently, and
- 17:26Speaker 4: I mean it was just it was under a million,
- 17:28Speaker 4: so that's not bad. And you know, and then think
- 17:32Speaker 4: of all the money you would share save with the
- 17:34Speaker 4: catalytic converters in two sensors and inspections. But I'm really,
- 17:40Speaker 4: really I'm heartbroken that this has happened to you.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. It was not a pleasant five days
- 17:47Speaker 1: bill anything.
- 17:49Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. You know, the race of these
- 17:53Speaker 7: the car repair places charge, it's just I mean, these
- 17:57Speaker 7: guys are charging you know, two hundred bucks an hour,
- 18:00Speaker 7: and I think for what you know, this is such
- 18:04Speaker 7: and they gotcha. They all work off the same Pricing
- 18:06Speaker 7: blue Book. It doesn't munch pay to shop around. You
- 18:10Speaker 7: can go places and pay more, you can go places
- 18:13Speaker 7: and pay less, but you know, you do typically get
- 18:16Speaker 7: what you pay for. But it's think Gosha and what
- 18:21Speaker 7: are your options? What are your alternatives? You know, I
- 18:24Speaker 7: had a buddy in Minnesota who's gone now, but he
- 18:27Speaker 7: never did own a car, and I think of all
- 18:30Speaker 7: the thousands of dollars that he's saved. Of course, he
- 18:34Speaker 7: pissed off a lot of his friends because he needed
- 18:36Speaker 7: rides all over the place. But if it worked for him,
- 18:39Speaker 7: it was fine. But it was It's just, you know,
- 18:43Speaker 7: the amount of money that these folks charge for stuff
- 18:45Speaker 7: is just unbelievable.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Well yeah, and you know, I tried to get a
- 18:50Speaker 3: warranty a while back. When I first bought the truck.
- 18:53Speaker 3: It came with a little warranty, but it wasn't very good.
- 18:57Speaker 3: But I tried to buy one from them companies you
- 19:00Speaker 3: see on TV that they're actually good warranty. The problem
- 19:05Speaker 3: is it would never work for me because you have
- 19:09Speaker 3: to drive so many miles and so many months before
- 19:13Speaker 3: the warranty takes effect. Well I don't drive that much,
- 19:17Speaker 3: so it would never take effect, and they would charge
- 19:22Speaker 3: me thousands of dollars for the warranty, but never let
- 19:26Speaker 3: it be an effect because I didn't drive enough so
- 19:30Speaker 3: that and then you know, I don't have this kind
- 19:33Speaker 3: of money. I was so happy I paid off that
- 19:36Speaker 3: refrigerator and getting close on the transmission and then this, Yeah,
- 19:47Speaker 3: these guys are good too. I mean, they do good work.
- 19:50Speaker 3: But they had a group in there before that were
- 19:53Speaker 3: like sales slots, and they kept trying to push stuff.
- 19:58Speaker 1: This time, I know what he said made sense, because.
- 20:03Speaker 3: They charge you labor to go back in and change
- 20:06Speaker 3: a sensor when they don't charge you double labor to
- 20:09Speaker 3: go do it all at once. So I was kind
- 20:12Speaker 3: of screwed. There wasn't much I can do. And it's
- 20:15Speaker 3: an older truck, and I can't afford to get a
- 20:18Speaker 3: new one because even the guy said, he said, yeah,
- 20:21Speaker 3: you got too much money in it already, and even
- 20:25Speaker 3: if you wanted to get a new truck, they started
- 20:27Speaker 3: about sixty grand now yep.
- 20:30Speaker 4: And I was watching that Yahoo that CEO afford, and
- 20:37Speaker 4: it was making my blood pressure go up, and he
- 20:40Speaker 4: was saying things like and so I'm I'm putting on
- 20:44Speaker 4: my ten four hat here and he was saying things like,
- 20:48Speaker 4: these vehicles are complicated. You know, these vehicles take you know,
- 20:55Speaker 4: a professional, trained professional to work on them. And I'm like, wow,
- 21:01Speaker 4: that's by design, isn't it? So that you can take
- 21:06Speaker 4: people to the cleaner's aka dealership or you know whatever
- 21:11Speaker 4: automotive shop and hope that these automotive shops, these people
- 21:16Speaker 4: are up to speed, you know, on these complicated vehicles.
- 21:22Speaker 4: You know it, It just almost kind of makes sense,
- 21:27Speaker 4: you know, to And I've been thinking about it seriously.
- 21:31Speaker 6: I kid, you not looking for.
- 21:34Speaker 4: A a vintage vehicle, you know, I don't. I don't care,
- 21:39Speaker 4: you know, if it's a pickup or what. But see,
- 21:42Speaker 4: my problem is, you know, I got champagne taste on
- 21:46Speaker 4: a beer budget, and you know I want me. I
- 21:50Speaker 4: want to be eight. I want a Mustang, I want
- 21:53Speaker 4: to Vell. You know, I could probably be talked into
- 21:57Speaker 4: a real cool pickup. But when you can open the
- 22:00Speaker 4: hood and even I can stand there and I can
- 22:04Speaker 4: say that's an alternator, that that's a you know, that's
- 22:09Speaker 4: a that's a corbureator.
- 22:10Speaker 6: You know, that's what.
- 22:12Speaker 4: When I can name everything that's under the hood and
- 22:16Speaker 4: might even be able to replace a couple of those things.
- 22:21Speaker 6: They went away from that stuff on purpose.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you know what, our gas mileage was
- 22:26Speaker 3: really pretty good back then, because now the reason the
- 22:29Speaker 3: gas mileage is so bad is all the gases that
- 22:33Speaker 3: get exhausted have to go through these converters and all
- 22:38Speaker 3: these all this equipment, and it's restricting and it's just
- 22:44Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous. So yeah, I would love to go back
- 22:48Speaker 3: and get a vintage car from when we grew up.
- 22:51Speaker 1: I would love that so much. And you could actually
- 22:54Speaker 1: work on stuff.
- 22:55Speaker 3: And in the old days they were saying when you
- 22:59Speaker 3: bought a tractor, it came with a book showing you
- 23:02Speaker 3: how to do everything you needed to do. You didn't
- 23:05Speaker 3: have to be a mechanic that it would walk you
- 23:08Speaker 3: through stuff.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Today, yeah, I think I'm trying to remember what the
- 23:15Speaker 4: There's an automotive shop in Kervell, and I think they
- 23:19Speaker 4: said nine hundred dollars over nine hundred to replace the
- 23:24Speaker 4: spark plugs on my Sun's truck and his is a
- 23:30Speaker 4: two thousand and seven. Ford did some kind of special edition,
- 23:36Speaker 4: but one of the spark plugs inevitably breaks off always
- 23:43Speaker 4: every single time the sport plugs are changed and it's
- 23:49Speaker 4: just a design flaw and it's a headache when it happens.
- 23:54Speaker 6: But not over nine hundred dollars is ridiculous.
- 23:59Speaker 4: I mean, you used to do change of spark plugs
- 24:03Speaker 4: in the oil, you know, on my osmobile, you know,
- 24:08Speaker 4: in in an hour. Four I don't know, maybe I'm
- 24:14Speaker 4: an old geezer, but you know, oil filter oil probably
- 24:20Speaker 4: maybe an air filter, spark plugs probably for under twenty bucks.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, not a big deal.
- 24:29Speaker 3: And back then we all could do it and the.
- 24:33Speaker 1: World was better. All right, you think Bill, before we jumped.
- 24:38Speaker 7: Yeah. Have you have you priced a quarter of oil lately?
- 24:44Speaker 6: Oh?
- 24:44Speaker 1: I saw. I bought my own maybe a couple of
- 24:48Speaker 1: years ago. I thought i'd save money.
- 24:51Speaker 7: Yeah, no, and no, it like fifteen bucks of court.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:56Speaker 3: And then I found out that the oil filter was
- 24:59Speaker 3: in such a location you can get to it.
- 25:02Speaker 7: Yeah it was.
- 25:03Speaker 3: It took me two hours, and I finally had to
- 25:07Speaker 3: stick a screwdriver through it.
- 25:10Speaker 1: To get leverage to get it to move.
- 25:14Speaker 3: It was a nightmare. No wonder they charge so much
- 25:17Speaker 3: to do everything today. All right, Well, it was a
- 25:21Speaker 3: bad week. I figure, I'm just paying for sins that
- 25:27Speaker 3: I don't remember.
- 25:29Speaker 7: I don't know what somebody does.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody does, and him and I are not on
- 25:34Speaker 3: talking terms right now.
- 25:37Speaker 7: All right.
- 25:38Speaker 3: Vitamins A and D, and this is one of those
- 25:41Speaker 3: things where you know, everybody says vitamins, but really A
- 25:45Speaker 3: and D are more what they call pro hormones, and
- 25:49Speaker 3: they're involved.
- 25:49Speaker 1: In a lot.
- 25:51Speaker 3: And it used to be all the experts in the
- 25:53Speaker 3: medical world ignored nutrition and vitamin A and D. In fact,
- 25:59Speaker 3: going back to doctor Lee's era, there were scientists and
- 26:06Speaker 3: famous doctors that said, there's no proof that poor nutrition
- 26:14Speaker 3: can cause poor health. I mean, the guy actually said
- 26:18Speaker 3: that in one of the things that I've read. I
- 26:21Speaker 3: forget how he worded it, but basically that's what he said,
- 26:24Speaker 3: no proof and uh what they found out. And now
- 26:29Speaker 3: these guys, uh, they said, this top researcher from the
- 26:35Speaker 3: University of California Riverside. Uh he is uh uh chairman
- 26:43Speaker 3: in biochemistry. How do you say that Bill is an
- 26:46Speaker 3: emeritus or.
- 26:50Speaker 7: Huh No, I don't. I don't.
- 26:52Speaker 1: I'm not from E M, E, R, I T U S.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Emeritussis Okay, So he and he's a big researcher now
- 27:06Speaker 3: and what he's telling people that they basically were wrong
- 27:10Speaker 3: ignoring this, and now he says that there's a vitamin
- 27:14Speaker 3: deficiency of D gripping industrialized nations, causing muscle weakness, ossoporosis,
- 27:23Speaker 3: breast cancer, colorectal cancer, diabetes, heart and cardiovascular disease.
- 27:33Speaker 1: And more. Now, Vitamin A, D, E, and K are
- 27:40Speaker 1: all fat soluble. That means they dissolve in.
- 27:47Speaker 3: At apose tissue and fat in the body and they
- 27:50Speaker 3: get stored in the liver. But if you get too
- 27:53Speaker 3: much then it spills out into circulation and that can
- 27:57Speaker 3: be a problem, especially for people that take synthetic fractionated
- 28:02Speaker 3: over the counter stuff. So a few of the problems
- 28:05Speaker 3: I said caused by the deficiency of an imbalance. And
- 28:09Speaker 3: it's not just that you have A and D in
- 28:12Speaker 3: your system, but they've got to be imbalanced, as nature
- 28:15Speaker 3: and God required. And if there's an imbalance or a
- 28:21Speaker 3: deficiency or both, your immune system is in trouble, the
- 28:28Speaker 3: bones are in trouble. All the skeletal problems, osteoporosis, arthritis,
- 28:36Speaker 3: rheumatoid arthritis, art disease, diabetes, infections, kidney disease, chronic inflammation,
- 28:44Speaker 3: and pain. So a lot of people that have been
- 28:47Speaker 3: told that they've got fibromyalgia could just be screwed up
- 28:53Speaker 3: with vitamin A and D the actual hormones, skin and
- 29:00Speaker 3: state problems. To de Kay lupus, and lupus is the
- 29:04Speaker 3: word that means wolf because you get that wolf look
- 29:07Speaker 3: on your face, that rash, multiple sclerosis, and depression.
- 29:13Speaker 1: So A and D really play an important role. And
- 29:18Speaker 1: this is.
- 29:19Speaker 3: Why I go back to doctor Lee and Catalan in Catilean,
- 29:24Speaker 3: he had it all and he didn't think he'd ever
- 29:27Speaker 3: need anything else, but more things ended up being needed.
- 29:33Speaker 3: And because most of your vitamin D comes from the sun,
- 29:40Speaker 3: and there's a conversion of sunlight with the help of cholesterol,
- 29:44Speaker 3: and a lot of people.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Don't have cholesterol because they're on meds.
- 29:49Speaker 3: People living with very little sunshine become very deficient very quick,
- 29:54Speaker 3: and those taking satin drugs have a problem because they
- 29:59Speaker 3: don't have cholesterol. And then those people that are usually
- 30:03Speaker 3: taking that have drank the kool aid and they're not
- 30:06Speaker 3: eating the good food to get cholesterol, so that's a problem.
- 30:11Speaker 3: And historically low cholesterol also become becoming deficient cause vitamin
- 30:22Speaker 3: A and D to be deficient. And because lots of
- 30:25Speaker 3: vitamin A is converted from plants which has got kerotine.
- 30:31Speaker 3: So you'll see in a lot of stuff it'll say
- 30:35Speaker 3: vitamin A is keratine or some other thing, but that's
- 30:38Speaker 3: not vitamin a. We eat a plant maybe and get kerotine,
- 30:45Speaker 3: and then the body will convert it if all the
- 30:47Speaker 3: stuff is there. But in the diet, those who cannot
- 30:54Speaker 3: effectively convert that, and they say that's about fifty percent
- 30:58Speaker 3: of the population.
- 31:00Speaker 1: Can be deficient real quick.
- 31:02Speaker 3: So what you need is rich food sources of vitamin
- 31:05Speaker 3: A and D. And the problem there is all these
- 31:08Speaker 3: crazy people have told people what's good for you is
- 31:11Speaker 3: bad for you, like the richest food sources of vitamin
- 31:15Speaker 3: A that they don't have to be converted eggs, raw butter,
- 31:22Speaker 3: full fat, raw milk, liver. There we go avail you
- 31:27Speaker 3: and I with our liver last week yep. And they
- 31:33Speaker 3: become deficient. So for these reasons, experts are convinced that
- 31:38Speaker 3: America suffers widespread deficiency are imbalance. And this problem has
- 31:45Speaker 3: been contributed to deadly and sometimes even epidemic levels of cancer, inflammation,
- 31:52Speaker 3: all kinds of other problems. So then they talk about, well,
- 31:55Speaker 3: should we supplement or not. Well, the problem with that
- 31:59Speaker 3: is a lot of people take bad supplements and then
- 32:03Speaker 3: you get A and D which are not easily excreted.
- 32:10Speaker 3: They end up being stored in deliver and then if
- 32:13Speaker 3: you can't get rid of them or use them, they
- 32:16Speaker 3: spill into your circulation and now you've got toxic levels.
- 32:24Speaker 1: That take months to get rid of.
- 32:29Speaker 3: So my favorite and vitamin KA plays a big role
- 32:34Speaker 3: in E because AD, E, and K vitamins.
- 32:37Speaker 1: Are all fat soluble, so they all kind of work together.
- 32:41Speaker 3: But the thing is that you need a certain ratio,
- 32:46Speaker 3: and the ratio is found naturally in nature.
- 32:51Speaker 1: And what I like is like, if.
- 32:56Speaker 3: You eat good cold North Atlantic deep water fish like
- 33:01Speaker 3: the cod, you're gonna get.
- 33:04Speaker 1: All that you need.
- 33:06Speaker 3: And I think, yeah, I have a note that said
- 33:12Speaker 3: vitamin A to D should be around four to five
- 33:18Speaker 3: to one, So four to five A to one of
- 33:22Speaker 3: vitamin D. And when the ratio is maintained and reasonable doses,
- 33:30Speaker 3: everything is fine. But the benchmark that they talked about
- 33:34Speaker 3: was cattle in catlein was created in nineteen twenty nine.
- 33:39Speaker 3: What a great time when the market crushed, the great,
- 33:44Speaker 3: great great depression. Natural low doses of A and D
- 33:52Speaker 3: in the correct ratio are in cattleIn.
- 33:57Speaker 1: And because this.
- 33:58Speaker 3: Product of the whole food concert that's right, the AD
- 34:02Speaker 3: ratio could correctly maintain for about the last ninety something years,
- 34:10Speaker 3: almost one hundred years and twenty nine and real cod
- 34:16Speaker 3: liver oil. This is a wonderful thing. And this is
- 34:20Speaker 3: why I'm a big fan of standard processes cod liver
- 34:24Speaker 3: oil because it has A and D and it has
- 34:27Speaker 3: the Omega three fatty assets. Now you might need to
- 34:30Speaker 3: take a little more, but it's a good real product
- 34:35Speaker 3: and all the nutrition that you need, the AD and
- 34:41Speaker 3: K is in cod liver oil, and it maintains a
- 34:50Speaker 3: strong immune system. It helps prevent cancer. Cod liver oil
- 34:55Speaker 3: and vitamin D are almost specific to breast cancer. So
- 35:01Speaker 3: if you're dealing with worrying about your breast or you've
- 35:04Speaker 3: got breast cancer, vitamin D and cod liver oil and
- 35:09Speaker 3: it just happens to have vitamin A and E and
- 35:12Speaker 3: K are in there too. If you avoid eggs and
- 35:16Speaker 3: liver and real butter, and you eat a lot of
- 35:19Speaker 3: processed stuff and you consume store bought vegetable oils, you
- 35:25Speaker 3: may need to supplement with additional vitamin K two, which
- 35:29Speaker 3: we all have talked about on the show. You can
- 35:31Speaker 3: get it from a few country companies that have vitamin
- 35:38Speaker 3: D and K two in them, and there's a lot
- 35:42Speaker 3: of companies that have some real good stuff. There's a
- 35:44Speaker 3: company called Green Pastures X factor, no gold, high vitamin
- 35:51Speaker 3: butter oil. But to me, raw dairy and cod liver
- 35:57Speaker 3: oil and eat the Deep Atlantic cold fish and.
- 36:01Speaker 1: You're going to be doing a lot better. Is he anything?
- 36:07Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 36:07Speaker 4: That? Uh, those drops, I can't remember the name, and
- 36:11Speaker 4: I don't have a bottle sitting right here at the
- 36:14Speaker 4: bottomin D and K.
- 36:16Speaker 1: So it was it was I think it said D
- 36:18Speaker 1: three K two.
- 36:20Speaker 4: Okay, So when you're taking the cattle in, if you
- 36:25Speaker 4: use those drops, which I'm not because I'm out and
- 36:29Speaker 4: it's been begging me that i was out, Are you
- 36:33Speaker 4: overdoing it?
- 36:34Speaker 6: Oh?
- 36:35Speaker 1: No, No.
- 36:35Speaker 3: And the nice thing is the natural like cod liver oil.
- 36:41Speaker 3: It doesn't have those crazy numbers like a lot of
- 36:44Speaker 3: these products out there in the market, because there are
- 36:47Speaker 3: people go crazy and they want to tell you the
- 36:50Speaker 3: secret to everything is this one and why is it
- 36:55Speaker 3: everybody doing this one?
- 36:57Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't work that way.
- 36:59Speaker 3: That's why in cattle and doctor Lee put everything he
- 37:02Speaker 3: could think of, and he watched people get well, and
- 37:06Speaker 3: there's a few like Nordic Naturals makes a good cod
- 37:09Speaker 3: liver oil. I'm a standard process cod liver oil because
- 37:15Speaker 3: it's got A and D.
- 37:16Speaker 1: And let me pull my book here, because.
- 37:20Speaker 3: Even though I know every damn thing, sometimes I need
- 37:23Speaker 3: to look. Let's see here. Let's see, okay, cod liver oil.
- 37:31Speaker 3: Let's take a look. It's got cholesterol, protein, vitamin A,
- 37:41Speaker 3: vitamin D, cod liver oil three thousand milligrams DHA and
- 37:48Speaker 3: EPA omega three fat acids. And let's see. They're saying
- 37:55Speaker 3: it's sports, epithelios issue, bone, tooth, muscle, skeletal, liver, immune system, inflammatory,
- 38:04Speaker 3: antioccident and a good source of vitamin D. So that's
- 38:09Speaker 3: my favorite cod liver oil. And I have some in
- 38:14Speaker 3: my cabinet as we speak, and I give it to
- 38:17Speaker 3: the pets when I have cattle in the petskit cattle
- 38:22Speaker 3: and every time, just like me, but also I take
- 38:27Speaker 3: and pope with a toothpicked cod liver oil tablet and
- 38:31Speaker 3: squeeze the oil into their food, because that's that's a
- 38:35Speaker 3: bonus bill.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Anything. We're running a little late because of me.
- 38:42Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's uh yeah, I liked their cod liver
- 38:48Speaker 7: oil too. In fact, I just have run out and
- 38:51Speaker 7: more is on the way. But I mean, even as
- 38:55Speaker 7: a kid, I got cod liver oil and I don't
- 38:57Speaker 7: know what it was, what it really was, and if
- 39:00Speaker 7: it was any good or not, but I always kind
- 39:03Speaker 7: of liked the taste of it. The thing with the
- 39:08Speaker 7: with their capsules from standard process, they shuger from the taste.
- 39:13Speaker 7: You don't get that nice fish taste. And I suppose
- 39:17Speaker 7: you could chew one open, but I'm just not into that.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned about chewing them.
- 39:23Speaker 7: Uh.
- 39:24Speaker 3: I was at a seminar one time when I was
- 39:26Speaker 3: doing my postgraduate work and they had a new product
- 39:30Speaker 3: come out of it. Might have been cod liver oil
- 39:32Speaker 3: at that time, I don't remember, but it was it
- 39:35Speaker 3: had a flavor to it, and so part of the
- 39:39Speaker 3: part of the test for all of us in there
- 39:42Speaker 3: was you had to chew one at the seminar, and
- 39:47Speaker 3: everybody did and it didn't taste bad. It had like
- 39:49Speaker 3: a lemon flavor or something. I don't remember if it
- 39:55Speaker 3: says that in my book, I'll look it up here
- 39:57Speaker 3: real quick, but I remember when it was one of
- 40:01Speaker 3: them that we tried and we tasted and we chewedd
- 40:05Speaker 3: and everybody said, like, we don't want to do.
- 40:07Speaker 1: That, but it worked.
- 40:11Speaker 3: But if you're getting raw dairy and good milk and
- 40:14Speaker 3: all that stuff, you're so far ahead.
- 40:19Speaker 1: So far.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Okay, let's see here. I don't see anything in there.
- 40:26Speaker 3: It just mentions that a lot of the cod liver
- 40:30Speaker 3: oil products in the market have been stripped of their
- 40:33Speaker 3: naturally occurring vitamins, essential fats, and natural cofactors. So you
- 40:39Speaker 3: don't want to take that stuff that doesn't help you,
- 40:42Speaker 3: You're just wasting your money. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
- 40:46Speaker 3: we're running a little bit late, but we're going to
- 40:48Speaker 3: go to break and be right back and we'll do
- 40:54Speaker 3: a little stuff with something about some one liners and
- 40:59Speaker 3: also a little litle bit of reading on some of
- 41:01Speaker 3: my family history.
- 41:02Speaker 1: Cool stuff. So this is doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours.
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- 42:55Speaker 8: At LOLd.
- 42:57Speaker 7: I've never seen under like her and here before. And
- 43:06Speaker 7: I could see her watching me as I walked across
- 43:11Speaker 7: the floor.
- 43:15Speaker 1: I ask her if she liked.
- 43:18Speaker 7: To dance when the man starts up again, She said,
- 43:25Speaker 7: I never danced with stranger.
- 43:29Speaker 1: I don't even know your name.
- 43:34Speaker 8: I said, we're not exactly stranger.
- 43:38Speaker 4: You and I.
- 43:42Speaker 1: My dogs were running wild and free.
- 43:46Speaker 3: As I watched you tonight.
- 43:53Speaker 8: Just think about it and you'll mind. We're not.
- 44:02Speaker 6: It's stranger.
- 44:04Speaker 1: I've already loved you. And all right, we are back
- 44:14Speaker 1: and I have done that. I have done that.
- 44:19Speaker 3: Anyway, Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to Doctor Cooper's Natural Health.
- 44:22Speaker 3: Though it's we've got Susie and Bill. We're all on zoom.
- 44:27Speaker 3: Unfortunately no live rumbo buk maybe next week. So anyway,
- 44:32Speaker 3: we're running a little bit behind, but we're gonna. We're
- 44:35Speaker 3: gonna do our famous one liners unless Susi obill have
- 44:39Speaker 3: anything they want to jump into first.
- 44:40Speaker 4: Susy, Yeah, I'm just speaking of tasting bad. I was
- 44:45Speaker 4: thinking about that today this morning. Why is it that
- 44:50Speaker 4: cola call, the one that tastes like soap, is the
- 44:54Speaker 4: only one that gets stuck in my throat? And if
- 44:57Speaker 4: you ever told me I had to to cola call,
- 45:01Speaker 4: I would unfriended you.
- 45:08Speaker 3: Ever, if there was ever a dull moment, I would
- 45:11Speaker 3: know you weren't around. I don't know why it gets
- 45:17Speaker 3: stuck in your throat. Maybe because you're thinking about that
- 45:20Speaker 3: and you've convinced yourself. I'm going to have trouble swallowing this.
- 45:25Speaker 3: I used to have people come in my office and
- 45:28Speaker 3: tell me I don't do very good with pills.
- 45:32Speaker 1: But they had been taking.
- 45:33Speaker 3: Prescriptions, no complaints. There was a candy dish on the counter.
- 45:37Speaker 3: They'd pick up a big old piece of candy and
- 45:39Speaker 3: put it in their mouth.
- 45:40Speaker 1: No problem, And I'd.
- 45:42Speaker 3: Say, so, no problem with prescriptions, no problem with candy.
- 45:49Speaker 1: You just have a problem with natural supplements. I think
- 45:53Speaker 1: we can figure this out.
- 45:56Speaker 8: Bill.
- 45:57Speaker 1: What do you think you're the resident head doctor.
- 46:01Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my answer. Yes, no help at all, not
- 46:09Speaker 7: a bit.
- 46:10Speaker 3: All right, let's jump in to some one liners that
- 46:17Speaker 3: we have done a long time ago, so you guys
- 46:20Speaker 3: will know them. But I thought they were pretty good
- 46:23Speaker 3: and it was worth pulling them up.
- 46:25Speaker 1: And it was a time when.
- 46:28Speaker 3: Humor was I think, really at its best. Okay, he said,
- 46:34Speaker 3: two times a week we go to a nice restaurant.
- 46:37Speaker 1: My wife and I.
- 46:40Speaker 3: Have a little beverage, good food and companionship.
- 46:44Speaker 1: She goes on Tuesday I go on.
- 46:46Speaker 3: Friday, all right, he said, we also sleep in separate beds.
- 46:53Speaker 3: Hers is in California and mine is in Texas. He said,
- 46:58Speaker 3: I take my wife everywhere, but she keeps finding her
- 47:02Speaker 3: way back. I asked my wife where she wanted to
- 47:07Speaker 3: go for our anniversary, and she said someplace I haven't
- 47:11Speaker 3: been in a long time, she said, so I suggested
- 47:17Speaker 3: the kitchen.
- 47:19Speaker 1: She didn't like that. All right, we always hold hands
- 47:23Speaker 1: if I let go. She shops.
- 47:26Speaker 3: She has an electric blender, an electric toaster, an electric
- 47:32Speaker 3: bread maker. She said, there's too many gadgets and no
- 47:37Speaker 3: police to sit down, so I bought her an electric chair.
- 47:43Speaker 7: All right.
- 47:44Speaker 3: My wife told me the car wasn't running because there
- 47:49Speaker 3: was water in the carburetor. And I asked where is
- 47:54Speaker 3: the car and she said in the lake. She got
- 47:58Speaker 3: a mudpack and looked great for two days.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Then the mud fell off.
- 48:05Speaker 7: Jez.
- 48:07Speaker 3: She ran after the garbage truck, yelling, am I too
- 48:11Speaker 3: late for the garbage? The driver said, no, jump in.
- 48:19Speaker 3: Remember marriage is the number one cause of divorce, he said.
- 48:27Speaker 3: I married miss Wright. I just didn't know her first
- 48:31Speaker 3: name was Always. I haven't spoken to my wife in
- 48:37Speaker 3: eighteen months. I don't like to interrupt her. The last
- 48:44Speaker 3: fight was my fault. My wife asked, what's.
- 48:49Speaker 1: On the TV? I said, dust? All right? So that
- 48:57Speaker 1: was Who was that guy's.
- 49:02Speaker 6: Riding Dangerfield red skeleton?
- 49:07Speaker 1: He was? He was a champion, and I wanted to
- 49:10Speaker 1: read a couple of little things.
- 49:11Speaker 8: Here.
- 49:12Speaker 1: Let me, let me pull this out, or is it?
- 49:17Speaker 8: Is it?
- 49:19Speaker 3: I need a secretary or a producer to come here
- 49:23Speaker 3: and set this up so good.
- 49:26Speaker 1: You could do that.
- 49:27Speaker 8: I know you could.
- 49:28Speaker 1: You'd help me home on. Let's see here.
- 49:35Speaker 3: I had it in front of me that I should
- 49:39Speaker 3: have not trusted myself.
- 49:41Speaker 1: There it is, here we go, all right?
- 49:46Speaker 8: This was.
- 49:49Speaker 3: I guess A great great great aunt of mine way back.
- 49:54Speaker 1: She wrote this.
- 49:56Speaker 3: Her name was Bessie and Buchanan Hoskins, and she wrote
- 50:01Speaker 3: it on June fourteenth, eighteen ninety two, so somewhere in there.
- 50:07Speaker 3: But she said, in this jet age, it's fast face
- 50:11Speaker 3: of living. The parents never seem to have time to
- 50:14Speaker 3: tell their children about their ancestry. The struggles of the
- 50:18Speaker 3: forefathers are even the whimsical side of their forefathers' lives.
- 50:26Speaker 1: With the thought in mind, I compiled.
- 50:28Speaker 3: This booklet in order to preserve some of those records
- 50:31Speaker 3: for present and the future generations. Some information was obtained
- 50:36Speaker 3: from living members of older of the older generation, some
- 50:40Speaker 3: from actual records in Carter County, Missouri. And I have
- 50:47Speaker 3: had to rely upon memory in many instances, and if
- 50:51Speaker 3: there's anything not accurate, it's due to faulty memory or
- 50:54Speaker 3: lack of information. So she said, our ancestors can be
- 51:00Speaker 3: eckerly traced as far back as Samuel D.
- 51:03Speaker 1: Buchanan. The only record we.
- 51:06Speaker 3: Have of him has been handed down by word of mouth,
- 51:11Speaker 3: and it has been said that he was English and
- 51:14Speaker 3: Irish descent. It was a young man he came to
- 51:17Speaker 3: This came with his brother, James Buchanan, from South Carolina
- 51:22Speaker 3: to Tennessee. How long he remained there is not known
- 51:27Speaker 3: to the present generation. We have no record as to
- 51:31Speaker 3: the time and place of his first marriage. However, we
- 51:35Speaker 3: know he left his brother in Tennessee and came to
- 51:39Speaker 3: Missouri with Mary Moss Buchanan and his first wife.
- 51:43Speaker 1: The true record of his first.
- 51:45Speaker 3: Home in Missouri shows that he purchased and they wrote
- 51:49Speaker 3: back then forty like fou rt y acres of land
- 51:54Speaker 3: from the government on March seventh, eighteen fifty five. This
- 52:00Speaker 3: was located in the county east of Carter, Missouri Van
- 52:03Speaker 3: Buren everybody knows Van Buren, and then he purchased some
- 52:08Speaker 3: more land. Later on, sometime in eighteen fifty nine or
- 52:11Speaker 3: eight steen sixty, his wife died, leaving three children, and
- 52:15Speaker 3: the youngest was approximately two years old. So Samuel b
- 52:21Speaker 3: De married her grandmother, Mary Smith, and had come with
- 52:26Speaker 3: her folks from Tennessee in the early eighteen fifties. The
- 52:34Speaker 3: family included her mother, two brothers, Dick and Joe, two sisters,
- 52:38Speaker 3: Patsy and Elizabeth. Dick and Joe had purchased a track
- 52:41Speaker 3: of land in the valley, approximately seven miles from the present.
- 52:45Speaker 1: Town of Van Buren.
- 52:47Speaker 3: Everybody was sharing the joy of peace and prosperity.
- 52:51Speaker 1: When the Civil Wars started.
- 52:54Speaker 3: From all appearances, grandfather was a Southerner and that part
- 53:02Speaker 3: of Missouri was like cutting half. Half of Missouri was
- 53:05Speaker 3: for the South and half was for the North.
- 53:10Speaker 1: They said. He did not list in the Union Army
- 53:12Speaker 1: as some of his.
- 53:13Speaker 3: Neighbors did, because back then neighbors were fighting each other. Seemingly,
- 53:18Speaker 3: his intentions were to remain neutral and live in peace
- 53:21Speaker 3: with his family, making a living there on the farm.
- 53:28Speaker 3: Such intentions were of short duration. Van Buren was on
- 53:32Speaker 3: the Mason Dixon line, where there was no law enforcement.
- 53:37Speaker 1: A bend of.
- 53:37Speaker 3: Cutthroats and thieves called jayhawkers roam the countryside, robbing and
- 53:43Speaker 3: killing people. Some members of this band were former neighbors,
- 53:48Speaker 3: and the very people who they killed.
- 53:50Speaker 1: Or robbed were their neighbors.
- 53:52Speaker 3: There were also men who did not join the jayhawkers,
- 53:55Speaker 3: but used the situation to get revenge on some one
- 54:00Speaker 3: or else gain a living without working. Things finally became
- 54:05Speaker 3: so unbearable that grandfather had to hide away from home
- 54:08Speaker 3: to keep from being killed. Only men were in danger
- 54:12Speaker 3: from the hands of these unlawful men. Grandfather's life was
- 54:16Speaker 3: in jeopardy many times during these years, not only from
- 54:20Speaker 3: his fellow man, but from the wild beast roaming the
- 54:23Speaker 3: woods where he was hiding.
- 54:25Speaker 1: One night, a.
- 54:25Speaker 3: Panther came to see him in the cave where he
- 54:28Speaker 3: was hiding. He kept the light burning to keep the
- 54:31Speaker 3: panther away, although he realized that the jayhawkers might see
- 54:36Speaker 3: it and discover his hiding place. So that's kind of
- 54:40Speaker 3: how things were, and we might go into more of
- 54:43Speaker 3: that stuff later. But she said that her grandfather had
- 54:49Speaker 3: kept his family with her at home, but suffered many
- 54:52Speaker 3: hardships because of the jayhawkers. And he said, once a
- 54:57Speaker 3: regiment of Union soldiers camped near her home. They took
- 55:01Speaker 3: her food and killed her and her chickens, her hogs
- 55:07Speaker 3: or cattle, stripped the.
- 55:08Speaker 1: Barn of all the grain.
- 55:10Speaker 3: And this is why after the Civil War, what they
- 55:15Speaker 3: called reconstruction, the people in South did not like the
- 55:18Speaker 3: North because they came in and did this.
- 55:21Speaker 1: And you know, they said.
- 55:25Speaker 3: In desperation, grandma went to the horses that had been corralled,
- 55:30Speaker 3: picked up the fallen corn, washed it.
- 55:32Speaker 1: And perched her for food.
- 55:34Speaker 3: And one time grandfather came home at the risk of
- 55:38Speaker 3: his life to spend the night with his family. He
- 55:40Speaker 3: was captured by Union soldiers.
- 55:43Speaker 1: They ordered him.
- 55:44Speaker 3: To take him to Zamiri Carter's cattle. He was released
- 55:49Speaker 3: after he'd shown them where the cattle were. And this
- 55:53Speaker 3: episode did not spoil the friendship between the two men,
- 55:56Speaker 3: as Carter knew had meant death for Grandpa if he
- 55:59Speaker 3: had not obeyed the ardor all right, well that's enough.
- 56:02Speaker 1: For it tonight, anything Susy before we go.
- 56:05Speaker 3: That was a little Missouri history, and unfortunately we're rated
- 56:11Speaker 3: related to President Buchanan, which everybody says he was terrible.
- 56:17Speaker 4: Well that's what I was wondering when you said that name.
- 56:20Speaker 4: But even still, it's an interesting, very interesting.
- 56:25Speaker 1: History, Bill anything.
- 56:30Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a part of part of our history, but
- 56:35Speaker 7: a part of history in general, that that we very
- 56:39Speaker 7: rarely get a kind of glimpse of what these times
- 56:43Speaker 7: were like for ordinary folks. And you know, we read
- 56:49Speaker 7: about armies and read about governments or read about all
- 56:52Speaker 7: of this, but we don't hear about how all of
- 56:56Speaker 7: that affected just little folks and the folks who were uh,
- 57:02Speaker 7: farmers or ranchers or whatever that were trying to stay
- 57:08Speaker 7: out of out of that mix. But you know, if
- 57:12Speaker 7: you stay out of the mix, you're you're a bad
- 57:14Speaker 7: guy from both sides. And it was it's a very
- 57:18Speaker 7: tough time, and it's it's always interesting to hear something
- 57:22Speaker 7: written by folks who were who were there, and it
- 57:27Speaker 7: gives a whole different cast.
- 57:29Speaker 1: To Yeah, we'll go on into some more of it.
- 57:32Speaker 3: She goes into recipes and things they did to survive,
- 57:37Speaker 3: how they made things, what they did. Susy would have
- 57:40Speaker 3: fit right in. Susy would have ever known the difference
- 57:45Speaker 3: she'd have fit right in. And uh, you know that
- 57:49Speaker 3: was sad because my great great great grandfather was arrested
- 57:54Speaker 3: by the Union Army. So that's why most of the
- 57:57Speaker 3: people where I grew up we were not fans of
- 58:00Speaker 3: a war by Lincoln that never had to be fought.
- 58:04Speaker 1: We were not fans of Roberty, I mean General Grant and.
- 58:12Speaker 3: Sherman because what they did never had to be done.
- 58:15Speaker 3: You could have just said, Okay, the South wants to
- 58:19Speaker 3: pull away. They have every right, because in the history
- 58:23Speaker 3: of our nation, every time a country's wanted its freedom,
- 58:27Speaker 3: we've supported that, except when it happened in our own backyard.
- 58:32Speaker 3: And I do believe that the nation would be better
- 58:37Speaker 3: if the South and the North had separated.
- 58:40Speaker 1: I think it would have been just a.
- 58:43Speaker 3: Good thing because the North is much different than the South,
- 58:47Speaker 3: and I know growing up in southern Missouri, a lot
- 58:52Speaker 3: of the things that took place in the North just
- 58:55Speaker 3: didn't apply. And that's what she's talking about writing this,
- 58:59Speaker 3: And I think it's really neat that she took.
- 59:01Speaker 1: The time to do that way back. Very impressive.
- 59:09Speaker 3: All right, anything else, guys, before we go to break
- 59:11Speaker 3: and then come back for the head doctor yepp oh Bill,
- 59:16Speaker 3: was the music any different without spreaker bothering it?
- 59:21Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't hear it.
- 59:22Speaker 1: He didn't hear it at all.
- 59:24Speaker 7: No heard the words, heard the text, heard the guys singing,
- 59:29Speaker 7: But no bacco.
- 59:30Speaker 3: All right, Sissy, I have no clue to you.
- 59:33Speaker 6: No.
- 59:35Speaker 3: I think Bill Smith smoking wine, but I would never
- 59:38Speaker 3: say that. All right, Well, this is doctor Krouper's natural
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- 1:03:35Speaker 1: to wild Bill and take.
- 1:03:37Speaker 7: It away, Okay. I was I've been thinking over over
- 1:03:46Speaker 7: the past the period of weeks and months and how
- 1:03:50Speaker 7: often things have come up on the show that either
- 1:03:56Speaker 7: you or Susan mentioned, or that I party to a
- 1:04:01Speaker 7: conversation with somebody that really become kind of the library
- 1:04:07Speaker 7: for the things that I talk about in my little
- 1:04:10Speaker 7: bit here and again that was that was the case
- 1:04:14Speaker 7: this time out two or three weeks ago. I've been
- 1:04:17Speaker 7: thinking about this and finally finally started to put part
- 1:04:21Speaker 7: of it together. But talking with a neighbor who said
- 1:04:28Speaker 7: he'd been party to a conversation and they were wondering
- 1:04:33Speaker 7: about the difference between loneliness and being alone, and that
- 1:04:41Speaker 7: it was somebody's contention in that conversation that they were
- 1:04:45Speaker 7: the same thing they're not, And as they say, it
- 1:04:51Speaker 7: was something that just kind of began to put itself
- 1:04:54Speaker 7: together over the past couple of weeks that thinking about
- 1:04:58Speaker 7: that and really what makes the difference and what can
- 1:05:05Speaker 7: we do about it? I think I've I'm probably gonna
- 1:05:08Speaker 7: try and split this into two weeks because it's a
- 1:05:12Speaker 7: little I think, too involved and too much try and
- 1:05:16Speaker 7: squeeze into into this part. But when it started to
- 1:05:19Speaker 7: talk to talking about loneliness and so, uh what it is?
- 1:05:28Speaker 7: You know, so often when I talk about the different
- 1:05:31Speaker 7: kinds of parts of our personality, I talk about two
- 1:05:36Speaker 7: things with that. And first, the first thing is that
- 1:05:39Speaker 7: how we respond to stuff, whether it's it's emotional or
- 1:05:44Speaker 7: in doccase, in physical, how much is all very individual.
- 1:05:49Speaker 7: We always we all respond to something in our own
- 1:05:54Speaker 7: way that's a little different from anybody else's. And and
- 1:05:58Speaker 7: as we've said, the reason for that is that our
- 1:06:01Speaker 7: life experience up to that point is totally unique, so
- 1:06:05Speaker 7: an individual to us. And that makes the difference of
- 1:06:10Speaker 7: how we respond to whatever kind of stressors or causality
- 1:06:16Speaker 7: that we have that will bring on different kinds of conditions.
- 1:06:21Speaker 7: The individuality is really important about with loneliness. That's what
- 1:06:27Speaker 7: I'm dealing with today, is that what would be a
- 1:06:34Speaker 7: cause for loneliness for me, it may not be for
- 1:06:38Speaker 7: doctor Susan and vice versa. What might be for them
- 1:06:41Speaker 7: might not for me. But the second thing, and this
- 1:06:46Speaker 7: is where that's hitded is aside from the individuality, just
- 1:06:52Speaker 7: what do we mean by by the terms, You know,
- 1:06:55Speaker 7: we have to certainly in mental health, we need to
- 1:06:59Speaker 7: with with every patient kind of reach some agreement about
- 1:07:05Speaker 7: what depression means, or what anxiety means, or what uh
- 1:07:11Speaker 7: manic episode means, because they're they're all manifested a little differently.
- 1:07:15Speaker 7: There they do fit general criteria, but how how those
- 1:07:20Speaker 7: criteria are manifested are pretty much unique to ourselves. And
- 1:07:25Speaker 7: it's in that regard it's very hard to generalize some
- 1:07:30Speaker 7: response to these things until we kind of dig around
- 1:07:35Speaker 7: and and and life histories and life experiences and begin
- 1:07:41Speaker 7: to begin to get a sense of how how this
- 1:07:45Speaker 7: person responds to something. When we talk about the loneliness,
- 1:07:51Speaker 7: it's uh, yeah, it's it's a it's a one hand,
- 1:07:55Speaker 7: it's a very simple thing. On the other hand, it's
- 1:07:57Speaker 7: a very complicated thing. And uh and it typically very
- 1:08:03Speaker 7: generally typically manifests itself in what I call it exteriory.
- 1:08:13Speaker 7: We become lonely because we're missing we're missing some kind
- 1:08:21Speaker 7: of human activity. And where does that start thinking about
- 1:08:26Speaker 7: all this, you know, is it really begins to form
- 1:08:31Speaker 7: itself between the time we're three and four years old,
- 1:08:35Speaker 7: three and five years old, when we're infants, you know,
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: we're one to three, we're feeling we have some kind
- 1:08:45Speaker 7: of crisis that we feel lonely, or we stubbor toe
- 1:08:49Speaker 7: where Mom Sarah to provide some kind of comfort, pick
- 1:08:58Speaker 7: us up, hold us, tell us it's going to be okay,
- 1:09:01Speaker 7: put a band aid on it, tell us to take
- 1:09:04Speaker 7: our vitamin see not a scorbic acid. Whatever. That sense
- 1:09:11Speaker 7: of safety and protection that we have is his infants
- 1:09:17Speaker 7: is really provided primarily by our mom, but to a
- 1:09:20Speaker 7: certain extent to our fathers. Our dad's become a more
- 1:09:24Speaker 7: important part of our life as we grow older, but
- 1:09:29Speaker 7: in different parts of our life for girls and for boys.
- 1:09:32Speaker 7: He respond to our fathers differently. But early on, you know,
- 1:09:37Speaker 7: up up to five or six years old, mom or
- 1:09:39Speaker 7: more mom's, mom's the anchor. Dad gets up in the morning,
- 1:09:45Speaker 7: goes to work. We don't see him till he comes
- 1:09:47Speaker 7: home for dinner. He's there for a little bit, and
- 1:09:50Speaker 7: then it's bedtime. Everybody folds up. So he's kind of
- 1:09:53Speaker 7: a mysterious guy until we get to be old enough
- 1:09:56Speaker 7: to begin to have conversations with him and understand what
- 1:10:02Speaker 7: he does in terms of a family context. So the
- 1:10:08Speaker 7: whole thing about when we're lonely, what what is it
- 1:10:12Speaker 7: that we're we're missing what is it that we're looking for?
- 1:10:18Speaker 7: And I think, again, looking at it, kind of I
- 1:10:24Speaker 7: don't like use the word especially clinical parameters for it,
- 1:10:29Speaker 7: but it's it's it's a sense of of isolation. It's
- 1:10:33Speaker 7: a sense of of withdrawing. It's a sense of not
- 1:10:37Speaker 7: being a part of whatever, of a group, of a family,
- 1:10:43Speaker 7: of a classroom. It's a it's a sense of as
- 1:10:47Speaker 7: I say, I think that the operative word there is isolation,
- 1:10:50Speaker 7: that when we're lonely, we feel isolated from everything around
- 1:10:55Speaker 7: us that has been safe. And again, looking at the
- 1:11:02Speaker 7: process of figuring out how do we define that, how
- 1:11:05Speaker 7: do we define loneliness works for almost any other any
- 1:11:13Speaker 7: other of these disorders that we experience it. If we
- 1:11:18Speaker 7: don't know what it means, if we don't have a definition,
- 1:11:20Speaker 7: of working definition for it, then it's going to be
- 1:11:23Speaker 7: a little different for everybody. And then that's almost doesn't matter.
- 1:11:28Speaker 7: What does matter is that we begin to develop a
- 1:11:31Speaker 7: sense of what it means. And if we have an
- 1:11:35Speaker 7: idea of what it means, we can begin to deal
- 1:11:40Speaker 7: with it. We can begin to find ways around it.
- 1:11:44Speaker 7: So when we're feeling lowly and we're feeling isolated. What
- 1:11:50Speaker 7: is it that we're looking for? What do we need
- 1:11:55Speaker 7: to mediate that feeling? From a clinician's point of view,
- 1:12:01Speaker 7: it's what I've I've always kind of felt that loneliness
- 1:12:07Speaker 7: is what I call a gateway, a gateway tradition. As
- 1:12:14Speaker 7: I said, it brings isolation and withdrawal makes it. We
- 1:12:20Speaker 7: have an unwillingness to to really do what we need
- 1:12:25Speaker 7: to do, which is to go out and be around
- 1:12:27Speaker 7: other people, but we we tend to shut down. That
- 1:12:32Speaker 7: can lead to anger. And you know, anybody who's in
- 1:12:38Speaker 7: this business understands that any anger that isn't addressed will
- 1:12:44Speaker 7: inevitably lead to depression, and any kind of depression that
- 1:12:51Speaker 7: isn't mediated and is allowed to increase can lead to suicide.
- 1:12:57Speaker 7: Now that's a kind of a long stretch from feeling
- 1:13:00Speaker 7: only but the sense of having no place to go,
- 1:13:04Speaker 7: nobody to talk to, who would want to bother to
- 1:13:08Speaker 7: listen to me? I probably wouldn't want to bother to
- 1:13:09Speaker 7: listen to them either, And it goes around and around
- 1:13:12Speaker 7: and it gets worse and worse. What are we looking
- 1:13:16Speaker 7: for as a balance to that? And there's several parts
- 1:13:22Speaker 7: to that we need to have and this this comes
- 1:13:27Speaker 7: from outside. That's why I said it's it's loneliness tends
- 1:13:33Speaker 7: to be, as I say, an exterior situation. But if
- 1:13:37Speaker 7: we if we have a sense of affirmation that somebody,
- 1:13:42Speaker 7: somebody believes in us, somebody accepts us, somebody uh trusts us.
- 1:13:49Speaker 7: And I use the word trust in the context of
- 1:13:52Speaker 7: feeling safe with somebody feels safe with us, that we
- 1:13:57Speaker 7: the understand enough about themselves and about us to be
- 1:14:03Speaker 7: able to recognize that what they need to do is
- 1:14:07Speaker 7: a firm the sense of personality a person has who's
- 1:14:12Speaker 7: feeling isolated, validating that again, finding ways to support the
- 1:14:21Speaker 7: suggestion that we think somebody who's lonely is okay, that
- 1:14:24Speaker 7: they're doing fine, That this happens to everybody, sometimes more,
- 1:14:29Speaker 7: sometimes less, but none of us are ever completely safe
- 1:14:36Speaker 7: from having moments in our life of loneliness. The comfort
- 1:14:42Speaker 7: thing again back to mom and being a comfort drawer.
- 1:14:52Speaker 7: You know, as I said, for small kids from zero
- 1:14:56Speaker 7: to three, mom is a primary comfort giver, and for
- 1:15:01Speaker 7: most kids after after three years old, between three and four,
- 1:15:07Speaker 7: that importance of mom begins to diminish slightly and the
- 1:15:11Speaker 7: kids peers become a resource for socialization for not feeling lonely,
- 1:15:20Speaker 7: that that kind of uh, the peer relies stays with
- 1:15:27Speaker 7: us for the rest of our lives. We look for
- 1:15:33Speaker 7: validation and affirmation from others around us to a degree,
- 1:15:40Speaker 7: and that is I think an important part of dealing
- 1:15:44Speaker 7: with dealing with loneliness and thinking about this. And you know,
- 1:15:50Speaker 7: I think that that really we never ever for that
- 1:15:54Speaker 7: for the rest of our life, lose our search for
- 1:15:58Speaker 7: our moms, we were still looking for that comfort. We're
- 1:16:01Speaker 7: still looking for that that feeling of safety, whether it's
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: or adolescents or young adults or old folks that were
- 1:16:10Speaker 7: still we're still looking for that sense of being safe
- 1:16:15Speaker 7: and being comforted. We find it in the number of ways.
- 1:16:20Speaker 7: I'm a few or successful many or not, but I
- 1:16:24Speaker 7: think that I think the search goes on, and I
- 1:16:27Speaker 7: you know, I'm sure everybody, certainly everybody I've brought it
- 1:16:30Speaker 7: up to, has said, yeah, we've talk about socialization. You
- 1:16:36Speaker 7: can feel just as lonely in a crowd of people
- 1:16:39Speaker 7: as you do if you're by yourself. And I think
- 1:16:42Speaker 7: probably the worst kind of loneliness is what I've encountered
- 1:16:47Speaker 7: a lot in my own practice, is marital loneliness, where
- 1:16:51Speaker 7: we lose the ability, the desire to talk to our
- 1:16:59Speaker 7: spot house happens a lot, I don't. I think part
- 1:17:05Speaker 7: of it is a bad it's a bad, faulty expectation
- 1:17:09Speaker 7: that we think we're going to get along wonderfully well
- 1:17:12Speaker 7: with this person for the rest of our lives. We
- 1:17:15Speaker 7: have ups and downs, and I think being aware of
- 1:17:18Speaker 7: the rhythm of that helps us understand that now it's
- 1:17:22Speaker 7: not going to be one hundred percent all the time.
- 1:17:24Speaker 7: That it can't be, but to understand that that rhythm
- 1:17:31Speaker 7: will give us a little It gives us an out.
- 1:17:34Speaker 7: You know, if I need to talk to somebody and
- 1:17:37Speaker 7: somebody isn't in the mood to listen, it doesn't It's
- 1:17:42Speaker 7: not the end of the world. That's just where it
- 1:17:43Speaker 7: is right now. And to stay with it, and to
- 1:17:46Speaker 7: understand that if we're going to talk to somebody, somebody's
- 1:17:50Speaker 7: going to be able to be receptive, and not everybody's
- 1:17:52Speaker 7: receptive all the time. We're not, why should they be.
- 1:17:58Speaker 7: The whole thing, again, I think, is a quest for safety,
- 1:18:07Speaker 7: it's a quest for stability. It's a it's a long yeah,
- 1:18:15Speaker 7: it takes us a while to become lonely. Lonely is
- 1:18:19Speaker 7: kind of the last step of a process. Then if
- 1:18:22Speaker 7: we're going to reverse that, we have to understand it
- 1:18:24Speaker 7: is going to take. Like almost everything else that we
- 1:18:26Speaker 7: talk about, all this, it's going to take a little time,
- 1:18:29Speaker 7: and we have to be patient with ourselves. And it
- 1:18:34Speaker 7: is a time. And this gets into the concept of
- 1:18:39Speaker 7: the loonness. It takes a little time to be introspective
- 1:18:43Speaker 7: enough to understand why it is that we're feeling that way.
- 1:18:51Speaker 7: Of course, as I said, one of the one of
- 1:18:54Speaker 7: the things a lot of therapists when I was talking
- 1:18:56Speaker 7: to somebody a week or so ago who was seeing
- 1:19:00Speaker 7: a therapist and ask me what my opinion of it was,
- 1:19:05Speaker 7: that's always a dangerous thing, but said it was spending
- 1:19:10Speaker 7: a tremendous amount of time digging around in her past,
- 1:19:14Speaker 7: and what did I think about that? And I said, well,
- 1:19:17Speaker 7: sometimes that's important, and it comes down to the fact of, Okay,
- 1:19:24Speaker 7: all this stuff happened to us way back when. Now,
- 1:19:27Speaker 7: what what do we do with it? How do we
- 1:19:29Speaker 7: use that to try and have it not recur? How
- 1:19:35Speaker 7: do we begin to shake off the residue from experiences
- 1:19:40Speaker 7: that happened years ago. It's a long process and it's
- 1:19:45Speaker 7: not always a comfortable process. But I think again, identifying causality,
- 1:19:51Speaker 7: identifying triggers that bring on certain kinds of behavioral responses
- 1:19:57Speaker 7: is really where we start. And now the question is, okay,
- 1:20:01Speaker 7: now what with loneliness Again? We realize that we all
- 1:20:09Speaker 7: respond differently. Mostly it's a process of resocialization, of beginning
- 1:20:15Speaker 7: to feel comfortable around others, kind of corros that feeling
- 1:20:23Speaker 7: of loneliness. If we could find somebody to talk to,
- 1:20:27Speaker 7: talk with doesn't have to be about our problems. Were
- 1:20:31Speaker 7: just beginning to feel that we're part of the as
- 1:20:35Speaker 7: my dad used to say, part of the race again,
- 1:20:37Speaker 7: and my question is a part of our joke that
- 1:20:40Speaker 7: we are, Well what race is that? And he would
- 1:20:43Speaker 7: always respond, well, it's the human race. We need to
- 1:20:47Speaker 7: sometimes remind ourselves that we're human, and sometimes we don't
- 1:20:51Speaker 7: feel very much like it. And how do we begin
- 1:20:53Speaker 7: to put that back together? It takes a little bit
- 1:20:57Speaker 7: of It takes a little bit of doing and a
- 1:20:59Speaker 7: little bit of curring, a little bit of getting over
- 1:21:04Speaker 7: feeling that we're not worthy of having conversations or relationships
- 1:21:10Speaker 7: with people, but beginning to trust that sense of our
- 1:21:14Speaker 7: self again. I think when we're lonely, it really is
- 1:21:19Speaker 7: it is large part due to self esteem. I hate
- 1:21:23Speaker 7: to use the psychobabble terms, but we don't feel worthy
- 1:21:27Speaker 7: of companionship and we need to be able to rebuild
- 1:21:32Speaker 7: that sense of our self and to rejoin the race.
- 1:21:39Speaker 7: One of the most important things that when we're feeling lonely,
- 1:21:44Speaker 7: if we can find somebody to laugh with. Bennett Surf,
- 1:21:48Speaker 7: who may or may not be a familiar name to
- 1:21:51Speaker 7: you guys, wrote a book called Laughter is the Best Medicine.
- 1:21:57Speaker 7: It's true, no matter how rotten we feel, if we
- 1:22:01Speaker 7: can begin to laugh at something, at anything, our mood changes,
- 1:22:07Speaker 7: and as our mood changes, we begin to readapt and
- 1:22:10Speaker 7: rejoin the race. So it's a lot of they said that,
- 1:22:13Speaker 7: a lot of complex issues involved with this, and what
- 1:22:18Speaker 7: I want to talk about next week. But is is
- 1:22:21Speaker 7: the idea of a loneeness and how it differs from
- 1:22:24Speaker 7: being lonely, because I in my mind, they are two
- 1:22:27Speaker 7: very distinct things, and of the two, being lone is
- 1:22:32Speaker 7: to be far preferable to being lonely. But we don't
- 1:22:35Speaker 7: always have a choice about that anyway.
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: Gil, good stuff.
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: I was thinking when you were talking that one thing
- 1:22:45Speaker 3: is a lot of times it's nice to be alone,
- 1:22:48Speaker 3: you need to clear your heads and need your space whatever.
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: But loneliness is when you don't want to be that
- 1:22:57Speaker 3: way and you are anyway. And I think the greatest
- 1:23:02Speaker 3: thing is when you're with somebody that's excited and happy
- 1:23:07Speaker 3: that you're there.
- 1:23:09Speaker 7: Yep. That's the that's the affirmation and the comfort and
- 1:23:15Speaker 7: the validation part of it. The trick is the trick
- 1:23:20Speaker 7: is believing that they're glad to see you. Yeah.
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know. I say that about relationships too.
- 1:23:29Speaker 3: The greatest relationship and it encompasses everything, you know, friendship
- 1:23:37Speaker 3: and sex and all the emotions and everything, But the
- 1:23:42Speaker 3: greatest one is knowing that the person you're with.
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: Only wants to be with you.
- 1:23:49Speaker 4: Yep, all right, anything, Well, you know, so many emotions
- 1:23:59Speaker 4: go through my head when when I think about this,
- 1:24:03Speaker 4: and you know, lost friends and when you don't know
- 1:24:07Speaker 4: why that's that's a tough one. I mean friends of like,
- 1:24:12Speaker 4: you know, thirty plus years, you know, and then there's
- 1:24:17Speaker 4: there's new friends, new new relationships. One one of my
- 1:24:21Speaker 4: problems right now is I don't know, maybe I shouldn't
- 1:24:24Speaker 4: say this, but the human race is has been maybe
- 1:24:34Speaker 4: willingly dumb down. Okay, I say willingly because I didn't
- 1:24:40Speaker 4: allow it to happen. And you know, I've got I've
- 1:24:46Speaker 4: got a son who's you know, younger within the range
- 1:24:52Speaker 4: of the dumb down crowd. My problem is and he's not.
- 1:24:59Speaker 4: And uh, I don't I don't understand the willingness to
- 1:25:07Speaker 4: become stupid, you know, as long I don't have the
- 1:25:11Speaker 4: degrees that the bill has that I mean, there's no doubt,
- 1:25:16Speaker 4: you know, I've got a bachelor's in interior design, minoring
- 1:25:24Speaker 4: in marketing.
- 1:25:25Speaker 6: That's it. I see every day as.
- 1:25:29Speaker 4: An opportunity to learn something new. I want to learn
- 1:25:33Speaker 4: something new. I want to find out. I'm not an
- 1:25:38Speaker 4: idiot when it comes to streaming on Rumble. My bandwidth
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: is idiotic.
- 1:25:46Speaker 6: You know.
- 1:25:46Speaker 4: And learning, I have zero respect for anyone who doesn't
- 1:25:53Speaker 4: want to learn every single waking day. There's no need
- 1:25:57Speaker 4: to put your feet on the floor if you don't
- 1:26:00Speaker 4: learn something. And because I am engaged in social media,
- 1:26:08Speaker 4: I see incomplete sentences.
- 1:26:12Speaker 6: I see very poor grammar.
- 1:26:15Speaker 4: I see someone start a sentence and before it's complete,
- 1:26:19Speaker 4: they put a period and then they finish their sentence,
- 1:26:23Speaker 4: and I'm like, what happened to you? I mean, this
- 1:26:27Speaker 4: is this is basic. So that's my problem is I
- 1:26:33Speaker 4: do like people. I love people, and you know, I
- 1:26:37Speaker 4: want to let my lights shine when I'm around them,
- 1:26:39Speaker 4: but be stupid around me.
- 1:26:43Speaker 6: I don't have any time for you. That's probably wrong.
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: Interesting villue. Whant I analyze her?
- 1:26:56Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'll do it.
- 1:26:59Speaker 7: I can't, I can't run. Hell no, no, she's she's
- 1:27:05Speaker 7: she's right. And I think that's one of the things
- 1:27:08Speaker 7: I noticed, you know, from all the time I was
- 1:27:11Speaker 7: in the universities and all that kind of stuff. There
- 1:27:15Speaker 7: are people who have curious minds, and then there's the
- 1:27:19Speaker 7: rest of them. And my job as a teacher was
- 1:27:24Speaker 7: and as a therapist was never to teach anything. It
- 1:27:30Speaker 7: was to make someone want to learn, to look at themselves,
- 1:27:36Speaker 7: to think about something from a different perspective, Like Susan said,
- 1:27:42Speaker 7: to learn to grow. If you don't, if you don't
- 1:27:47Speaker 7: do that, what the hell are you doing here? You know,
- 1:27:51Speaker 7: life's too long to put up with people like that.
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: And Bill's defense, nobody has got as much education as.
- 1:27:59Speaker 7: In the only thing you guys talk about this once
- 1:28:04Speaker 7: in a while, and you know, the only thing a
- 1:28:06Speaker 7: degree means is that I know how to read. Do
- 1:28:10Speaker 7: I know any more about stuff than anybody. No, I
- 1:28:14Speaker 7: may know a little more about this or a little
- 1:28:16Speaker 7: more about that, but then they know a little bit
- 1:28:18Speaker 7: more about other stuff.
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:28:20Speaker 3: But what it tells me most of us is you
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: had a desire and a craving to learn and learn
- 1:28:28Speaker 3: and learn.
- 1:28:29Speaker 7: Now, I just didn't want to have to go out
- 1:28:31Speaker 7: and get a job.
- 1:28:34Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've I've often thought and and you
- 1:28:39Speaker 4: know this is I think this is the evil one
- 1:28:43Speaker 4: just putting thoughts in my head. But I wondered why
- 1:28:47Speaker 4: I was able to basically graduate from high.
- 1:28:50Speaker 6: School in three years.
- 1:28:53Speaker 4: And you know, when I was eight or nine years old,
- 1:28:58Speaker 4: I was cutting pictures of I was sitting in my bedroom,
- 1:29:01Speaker 4: in my bed or on my floor, and I was
- 1:29:05Speaker 4: cutting pictures out of magazines of interiors. And when I
- 1:29:10Speaker 4: was twelve or thirteen, my aunt called my mother and said, Okay,
- 1:29:16Speaker 4: I want all new living room furniture, and I need
- 1:29:19Speaker 4: all new dining room furniture, and I want Susie to
- 1:29:24Speaker 4: help me. I'm twelve thirteen, And I went and I
- 1:29:28Speaker 4: picked out the most fabulous glass dining room table with acrylic,
- 1:29:37Speaker 4: beautiful clear acrylic chairs like barrel chairs. I don't even
- 1:29:42Speaker 4: remember what the cushions look like, and I don't remember
- 1:29:44Speaker 4: what we did in the living room. And then I
- 1:29:47Speaker 4: painted her a new still life for her living room.
- 1:29:53Speaker 4: Why does someone who can graduate in three years only
- 1:29:57Speaker 4: go and get, you know, an interior?
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: Just well, you didn't belong in high school.
- 1:30:04Speaker 3: It was boring and stupid other than your band and uh,
- 1:30:08Speaker 3: and they didn't want you there anymore because you were
- 1:30:11Speaker 3: making them look bad.
- 1:30:13Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 1:30:14Speaker 7: The dumbing down stuff has been going on for generations
- 1:30:18Speaker 7: and it's I think that's why. You know, as they
- 1:30:20Speaker 7: said my my high school advisor who looked at my
- 1:30:26Speaker 7: academic record, and I told my parents that I was
- 1:30:30Speaker 7: definitely not higher education oriented. I need to go to
- 1:30:34Speaker 7: trade school.
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: Oh really, Well, you know, trade school is fabulous, and
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: they always made it it is bad, but many things
- 1:30:44Speaker 3: in life require the degree and that other road. I
- 1:30:51Speaker 3: have been blessed by being on both sides of that fence.
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: I didn't plan it that way, It just worked out
- 1:30:57Speaker 1: that way.
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: But I went to a lot of technical trade schools
- 1:31:01Speaker 3: over the years, long before I went to medical school.
- 1:31:05Speaker 1: And talk about different worlds.
- 1:31:10Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, but the same world too, because as
- 1:31:13Speaker 7: you not gone to all those other schools, you would
- 1:31:16Speaker 7: not have the background to do what you do.
- 1:31:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. It made me a better troubleshooter.
- 1:31:24Speaker 7: Yep.
- 1:31:25Speaker 3: And some things had not come to me easy, and
- 1:31:29Speaker 3: some things came to me so easy was unbelievable.
- 1:31:32Speaker 7: Yep.
- 1:31:33Speaker 3: All right, Well, anything else is before we go to
- 1:31:35Speaker 3: break and we can come back to Betty Crocker.
- 1:31:38Speaker 4: Section well now, or I can tell you how to
- 1:31:45Speaker 4: decorate your house one or the other.
- 1:31:48Speaker 3: Well, right after I pay off two catalytic converterers four
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: oh two censors, special caskets and an inspection, we might talk,
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: but right now welfare and food stamps would be a
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: step up bombs. All right, guys, this is Doctor Cooper's
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: Natural Health Hours. We got Susie, Bill and myself on
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: zoom and we will be right back and the show
- 1:32:17Speaker 3: will be posted and go out to all the normal
- 1:32:20Speaker 3: places once Susie gets that link, and then hopefully with
- 1:32:24Speaker 3: her new broadband and fiber optic stuff coming into the house,
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: that we might be on Rumble Live next week with
- 1:32:33Speaker 3: the recording.
- 1:32:34Speaker 1: It would be special. So please stay with us, we
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- 1:36:08Speaker 3: Welcome back to Doctor Crouper's Natural Health Hours. And it
- 1:36:12Speaker 3: is that time of the show where we help Susie
- 1:36:16Speaker 3: with the name of her company. She gets a little
- 1:36:19Speaker 3: flabbergasted by this time, and then she's going to take
- 1:36:23Speaker 3: us into a recipe row and do like Granny in
- 1:36:28Speaker 3: somewhere between Granny and Betty Carker. So the name of
- 1:36:33Speaker 3: the company I happen to know for a fact is
- 1:36:37Speaker 3: renew and Done. Did it construction?
- 1:36:40Speaker 1: Susy?
- 1:36:42Speaker 6: That's good. It's actually renovation and design custom homes.
- 1:36:48Speaker 4: We do remodel, we do new construction from the ground up.
- 1:36:54Speaker 4: And you can go to Doc Crooper dot com and
- 1:37:00Speaker 4: roll down on the about page and you can find
- 1:37:02Speaker 4: a link that will take you to our website. We
- 1:37:05Speaker 4: can also be reached at eight three zero three seven
- 1:37:09Speaker 4: seven two one three one.
- 1:37:11Speaker 3: Yeah, that came to me that the guy I always
- 1:37:15Speaker 3: forget his name, and you never do that.
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: You used to say, let me tell you what I've done.
- 1:37:19Speaker 8: Did?
- 1:37:23Speaker 6: That's so funny, all right, take it away.
- 1:37:26Speaker 4: Well, you know, you keep comparing me to Granny Clampet,
- 1:37:32Speaker 4: and one of these days I'm going to do a
- 1:37:35Speaker 4: very detailed recipe for possum and horse readdish.
- 1:37:43Speaker 6: But I don't know.
- 1:37:44Speaker 3: I also said you were somewhere between Elie May and
- 1:37:47Speaker 3: Granny to my defense, okay.
- 1:37:50Speaker 4: All right, that that works. Okay, So I just, uh,
- 1:37:55Speaker 4: you know, I do this every year. Those of y'all
- 1:37:59Speaker 4: have hung with a though thick and thin and technical
- 1:38:03Speaker 4: issues and whatnot. Youll know, I hit a point where,
- 1:38:09Speaker 4: you know, I don't have a lot of appetite.
- 1:38:12Speaker 6: It gets hot outside.
- 1:38:13Speaker 4: This is Texas, and we're under a heat wave, you know,
- 1:38:19Speaker 4: and I don't know why, but you know, ninety two
- 1:38:23Speaker 4: degrees still it's gene barely mid June, and so I
- 1:38:28Speaker 4: was thinking about, you know, like appetizers, you know, something cool,
- 1:38:35Speaker 4: and I'm saving the best one for last because and
- 1:38:39Speaker 4: this one's the last one's for docs specifically, And I
- 1:38:42Speaker 4: know you like cream cheese, So this is a just
- 1:38:47Speaker 4: a garlic dip.
- 1:38:49Speaker 6: It's not anything special.
- 1:38:53Speaker 4: The ingredients are fabulous, So eight ounces of cream cheese softened.
- 1:38:59Speaker 4: It's always got to be softened or you can't blend
- 1:39:02Speaker 4: it with the other ingredients. Half a cup of sour cream.
- 1:39:08Speaker 4: That's one of the next things I'm going to start making.
- 1:39:11Speaker 4: One tablespoon of heavy cream, tablespoon of minced garlic, which
- 1:39:18Speaker 4: they say that's about six cloves depending on the size,
- 1:39:24Speaker 4: half a teaspoon of cilantro, and one teaspoon of dried
- 1:39:29Speaker 4: a regano, quarter teaspoon of salt. And around here we
- 1:39:34Speaker 4: use the celtic and a quarter teaspoon of pepper to taste.
- 1:39:40Speaker 4: And so just in a medium bowl, you're going to
- 1:39:44Speaker 4: mix the cream cheese, the sour cream, and the heavy
- 1:39:48Speaker 4: cream together with an electric mixer. You could do it
- 1:39:51Speaker 4: in a food processor, but you may chop up your
- 1:39:55Speaker 4: other ingredients too much, and then you're going to add
- 1:39:59Speaker 4: your remaining ingredients and like most of these kind of dips.
- 1:40:04Speaker 4: It's best if you cover its story in the fridge
- 1:40:08Speaker 4: for about an hour and you can serve this with
- 1:40:14Speaker 4: you know, veggies, your favorite good quality healthy crackers, and
- 1:40:23Speaker 4: that's it. It's just that simple. Even Bial and Dot
- 1:40:27Speaker 4: could do it. So the other one is and I
- 1:40:33Speaker 4: had forgot about this, and they say it's a Southern recipe,
- 1:40:39Speaker 4: but it's Jezebel sauce. And so one of the things
- 1:40:44Speaker 4: on this that you might need to be careful with
- 1:40:47Speaker 4: if you don't make your own is its calls for
- 1:40:52Speaker 4: fifteen ounces of pineapple preserves. There's some better quality ones
- 1:40:57Speaker 4: out there, fifteen ounces of apple chili and three.
- 1:41:03Speaker 6: Tablespoons of and it says three tablespoons of dry mustard.
- 1:41:10Speaker 4: And drum roll half a cup of prepared horse reddish.
- 1:41:17Speaker 4: Now I'm guessing that that might be not quite as
- 1:41:23Speaker 4: stout as the smugglers horse reddish. If you're using smugglers,
- 1:41:30Speaker 4: you might want to do a quarter of a cup,
- 1:41:33Speaker 4: taste it, you know, and then go from there.
- 1:41:36Speaker 6: So what you do with this Esbellt sauce.
- 1:41:40Speaker 4: Is you just put it in a you know, a
- 1:41:45Speaker 4: medium sized bowls, stir it again, refrigerate, until rage to serve,
- 1:41:50Speaker 4: and then when you're raide to serve it, you open
- 1:41:54Speaker 4: up a brick of cream cheese and you know, put
- 1:41:59Speaker 4: it on your serving plate, and then you pour this
- 1:42:01Speaker 4: Jezebel sauce over the top and again serve it with
- 1:42:08Speaker 4: you know, your favorite good quality crackers.
- 1:42:14Speaker 6: And that's it.
- 1:42:17Speaker 8: So good.
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: Glad me had garlic and cream cheese. I was already there, right.
- 1:42:23Speaker 4: I think if I could live like this through August
- 1:42:27Speaker 4: until the first cold front came, I probably would.
- 1:42:36Speaker 1: Yeah. I love when it's hot like that.
- 1:42:39Speaker 3: I love like the Mexican shrimp cocktail and the regular
- 1:42:46Speaker 3: shrimp cocktail. Oh, I love all that stuff, and anything
- 1:42:50Speaker 3: with garlic and cream cheese.
- 1:42:52Speaker 4: I'm there, yeah, Savichi one of the crackers. Of course,
- 1:42:57Speaker 4: I've always loved Ritz. I haven't had a Ritz cracker
- 1:43:01Speaker 4: in probably ten years or more. But I know you
- 1:43:05Speaker 4: can get these natural grocers. But I've seen them on Amazon.
- 1:43:09Speaker 4: Comes in like a pink colored box and it's called
- 1:43:12Speaker 4: back to Nature Classic Grounds.
- 1:43:18Speaker 6: That is I honestly, I don't know.
- 1:43:22Speaker 4: Maybe if you set a Ritz cracker down and then
- 1:43:25Speaker 4: one of these down that maybe I could tell the difference.
- 1:43:28Speaker 4: But because I'm used to not eating the Nabisco brand.
- 1:43:36Speaker 4: This this cracker is just as good as a as
- 1:43:40Speaker 4: a ritz if you wanted to try for something non
- 1:43:44Speaker 4: GMO and you know better for you.
- 1:43:49Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, and a lot of people don't
- 1:43:51Speaker 3: think about stuff like that.
- 1:43:52Speaker 1: They're just they grew up eating certain crackers.
- 1:43:56Speaker 3: And probably in the old days they weren't so bad
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: for us, but they've managed to put a lot of
- 1:44:02Speaker 3: bad stuff in them.
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: Bill, will you think about that recipe?
- 1:44:08Speaker 7: Yeah, sounds good.
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you know we can't do it though,
- 1:44:14Speaker 1: Like she said, she just likes to say that.
- 1:44:17Speaker 3: That's her that's her way of excusing herself out of
- 1:44:21Speaker 3: shipping it to us.
- 1:44:24Speaker 6: Now, I don't think I can mail cream cheese.
- 1:44:29Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to be able to do it
- 1:44:30Speaker 3: with that attitude.
- 1:44:40Speaker 1: We have fun.
- 1:44:41Speaker 3: We have fun, Bill said laughter before, and he was
- 1:44:46Speaker 3: so right, you.
- 1:44:48Speaker 6: Guys, I do have a question for y'all.
- 1:44:51Speaker 4: You know, both of y'all order you know, standard process
- 1:44:55Speaker 4: and mine king yesterday and I I think I had
- 1:45:00Speaker 4: placed to order a couple. No, it's probably about a
- 1:45:03Speaker 4: month ago, and so of course it comes with you
- 1:45:07Speaker 4: know the paper in there.
- 1:45:08Speaker 6: Well, I'm telling you when that box comes in the door.
- 1:45:13Speaker 6: The cats know they know what's inside of it.
- 1:45:16Speaker 4: Okay, they know there's paper, and they're all sitting there
- 1:45:20Speaker 4: lined up like we're waiting, hurry, hurry, please. So I
- 1:45:24Speaker 4: take the paper out and there's you know, this is
- 1:45:27Speaker 4: a there's a method to this. So you take it
- 1:45:31Speaker 4: out and you kind of flatten it out with your
- 1:45:33Speaker 4: hands and then you know, it's kind of narrow, but
- 1:45:37Speaker 4: it's long, and so you roll it up in a
- 1:45:40Speaker 4: in a big tube like shape and you put it
- 1:45:44Speaker 4: on the floor and it's like playing like, uh, pile
- 1:45:50Speaker 4: pile on like I don't know, boys do it?
- 1:45:52Speaker 6: They pile on. Well, the cat's pile on, okay.
- 1:45:55Speaker 4: And then so I let a couple of days go by,
- 1:45:59Speaker 4: and there is pieces of this brown paper all over
- 1:46:03Speaker 4: the place. You know, I'm pretty persnickity, you know, I sweep,
- 1:46:08Speaker 4: I vacuum my mom, and then to see pieces of
- 1:46:12Speaker 4: this paper on the floor, I'm just I have.
- 1:46:14Speaker 6: To walk by it and go it's not the end
- 1:46:17Speaker 6: of the world. It's not the end of the world.
- 1:46:19Speaker 4: And so finally, you know, the one a month ago,
- 1:46:22Speaker 4: I picked it all up, I vacuum.
- 1:46:24Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, guys, I've had enough.
- 1:46:27Speaker 4: So, like I said, yesterday, the order came here, they come,
- 1:46:32Speaker 4: paper comes out, roll it up, and so this time
- 1:46:35Speaker 4: I thought i'd be a little smarter and I put
- 1:46:38Speaker 4: it in the kitchen and oh, that's just perfect for
- 1:46:43Speaker 4: a cat to run and dive and slide across the
- 1:46:47Speaker 4: kitchen floor. Are y'all as nice as me? And let
- 1:46:52Speaker 4: the cats play with this packing paper?
- 1:46:55Speaker 7: It's great. Another thing that my cat's really like it.
- 1:46:59Speaker 7: It's hard to find and those big paper grocery bags anymore. Yes,
- 1:47:04Speaker 7: you open a bag up and put it down on
- 1:47:06Speaker 7: the floor. That's good for two days worth before it's destroyed.
- 1:47:11Speaker 1: That's fun.
- 1:47:12Speaker 6: I think I've got a smash of them somewhere. I
- 1:47:15Speaker 6: need to get that out and try it.
- 1:47:17Speaker 7: If you want to kind of have a little more fun,
- 1:47:20Speaker 7: cut a hole in the bottom of it and pause
- 1:47:23Speaker 7: will go flying in and out of that. You know,
- 1:47:28Speaker 7: it's great.
- 1:47:30Speaker 6: Well, I can up you on that. Put a little
- 1:47:33Speaker 6: I have catnip in a jar, so I.
- 1:47:37Speaker 4: Can reach in there and get, you know, a pretty
- 1:47:39Speaker 4: good sized pinch of catnap and put that in the
- 1:47:42Speaker 4: paper bag.
- 1:47:43Speaker 6: And then then.
- 1:47:45Speaker 4: My my cleanliness bug goes even crazier. When there's catnip
- 1:47:50Speaker 4: all over the floor.
- 1:47:52Speaker 3: Yep, I only have one cat right now, and she
- 1:47:58Speaker 3: doesn't mess with that kind of stuff. But they she
- 1:48:02Speaker 3: won't even eat the standard process cat food like yours do.
- 1:48:06Speaker 3: The wet food, she won't even touch it. She looked
- 1:48:09Speaker 3: at me like, oh, you think you're fooling, but the
- 1:48:12Speaker 3: dogs of it. I remember Doctor Dobbins. He was the
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: greatest nutrition mind, natural doctor I ever talked to in
- 1:48:22Speaker 3: my life. And he said in one of his seminars
- 1:48:28Speaker 3: that anytime that he was giving out cattle in to
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: his boys, the dogs were right there. So he said
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: he don't know if the dogs were getting cattle in,
- 1:48:42Speaker 3: but he knows every time he was giving it to
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: the boys, the dog showed up.
- 1:48:50Speaker 6: Yeah, I do that. Well, Holly and I both do that.
- 1:48:57Speaker 6: You know. He's a funny cod liver wools story.
- 1:49:02Speaker 4: When I told him that he had that you had
- 1:49:05Speaker 4: suggested the cod liver oil for him, he looked at
- 1:49:08Speaker 4: me like I was the most evil person in the world.
- 1:49:12Speaker 4: And he goes, I'm not taking that.
- 1:49:14Speaker 8: I am not.
- 1:49:16Speaker 4: My grandmother always made me take that, and I said, well, number.
- 1:49:21Speaker 6: One, I ain't your grandmother.
- 1:49:23Speaker 4: Secondly, Doc said and third it's it's in a Geil cap,
- 1:49:27Speaker 4: so you'll be okay.
- 1:49:31Speaker 1: Well he got confused with castor oil.
- 1:49:34Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know.
- 1:49:37Speaker 3: No, go ahead, No, that was the big thing growing up.
- 1:49:40Speaker 3: Everybody got castle, whether you need it or not.
- 1:49:45Speaker 4: Well, he admitted, last night, Uh, there was something on
- 1:49:48Speaker 4: TV about this kid getting his uh his mouth washed
- 1:49:52Speaker 4: out with soap. And I looked at Halley and I said,
- 1:49:57Speaker 4: did you ever get your mouth work?
- 1:50:00Speaker 6: That was hoping?
- 1:50:01Speaker 4: He goes, oh, yeah, he goes, we had a choice
- 1:50:04Speaker 4: a spanking or stick your tongue out. And I said,
- 1:50:09Speaker 4: so they just rubbed a bar of soap on your tongue.
- 1:50:13Speaker 9: Yep.
- 1:50:13Speaker 6: I said, did it do any good? Did you stop,
- 1:50:17Speaker 6: you know, talking back?
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: Nope, that's funny. All right, guys, we got a few minutes. Anything.
- 1:50:28Speaker 4: I've been meaning to mention that I keep seeing these
- 1:50:33Speaker 4: commercials on my phone, these ads rather for Jared tal
- 1:50:37Speaker 4: Can you believe that junk is coming back?
- 1:50:41Speaker 3: It wouldn't surprise me because they prey on older people,
- 1:50:45Speaker 3: convince them that they have iron pole.
- 1:50:48Speaker 6: Thank you?
- 1:50:50Speaker 1: Okay, wonder well, that's what they do.
- 1:50:55Speaker 3: They try to convince anybody that's over fifty that your.
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: Blood is iron deficient and you need your tall doc.
- 1:51:03Speaker 7: You were a hit a minute ago.
- 1:51:05Speaker 4: Let it let it alone, right, I mean I'm barely
- 1:51:11Speaker 4: over fifty.
- 1:51:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:51:13Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that would be my story and I would
- 1:51:16Speaker 3: stick to it.
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of that, Bill's.
- 1:51:21Speaker 3: Got a birthday coming up before we do our next
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: show on the twenty third of June, as a matter
- 1:51:28Speaker 3: of fact, and I didn't write down your age because
- 1:51:33Speaker 3: the paper kept catching fire.
- 1:51:36Speaker 6: Should so do you? Do you have a birthday song?
- 1:51:41Speaker 6: Cute up.
- 1:51:43Speaker 3: We'll find one for him, but we'll have to play
- 1:51:46Speaker 3: next week. I don't have one today.
- 1:51:48Speaker 7: Yeah, so don't. I just don't worry about fixing that
- 1:51:51Speaker 7: music thing for a couple of weeks.
- 1:51:55Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something.
- 1:51:56Speaker 3: There's something on your end, because if there was a
- 1:52:00Speaker 3: problem with our settings, Susy would have the same problem. Yeah,
- 1:52:07Speaker 3: and Bill, I don't care what you say or how
- 1:52:10Speaker 3: stubborn you are. Birthdays are very special because it's only
- 1:52:15Speaker 3: your day.
- 1:52:16Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:52:17Speaker 7: No, I look at it as it basically means we
- 1:52:19Speaker 7: only have one year less to go.
- 1:52:22Speaker 3: Oh god, what when you were a kid, When you
- 1:52:26Speaker 3: were a kid, what was the family tradition with your
- 1:52:29Speaker 3: parents for your birthday?
- 1:52:31Speaker 7: Minimal? What minimal. I've known people who didn't celebrate birthdays
- 1:52:38Speaker 7: at all.
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: Oh well, I hate to break it to you, but
- 1:52:44Speaker 3: you've had a lot of them that you didn't pay
- 1:52:47Speaker 3: much attention to.
- 1:52:47Speaker 7: Then I had weigh a lot of them. Yeah, I
- 1:52:53Speaker 7: just don't think it's a big deal. That's me.
- 1:52:55Speaker 3: Well, I think what I like about birthdays is its special.
- 1:52:59Speaker 3: It's kind of like Thanksgiving being better than Christmas because
- 1:53:03Speaker 3: you have the same kind of holiday without all the
- 1:53:06Speaker 3: worry of presents. And birthdays I think are just kind
- 1:53:10Speaker 3: of cool because it's your day.
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: It's it's your holiday.
- 1:53:15Speaker 7: If you're like me, and at Christmas time you don't
- 1:53:17Speaker 7: give presents, and it's just like Thanksgiving because it's all
- 1:53:19Speaker 7: about the food.
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the food's important. I'm hungry just talking about it.
- 1:53:25Speaker 3: And every time Susie does a recipe like this, the
- 1:53:29Speaker 3: sound of that cream, cheese and garlic, I was in
- 1:53:31Speaker 3: heaven right away.
- 1:53:34Speaker 1: All right, well, guys, we got we've got a few minutes.
- 1:53:36Speaker 3: If you want to close anything else, does he do it?
- 1:53:40Speaker 4: One of my most memorable birthdays was it was my
- 1:53:44Speaker 4: mother's fault. I was turning thirty and you know, I
- 1:53:50Speaker 4: thought something was going on that I couldn't. I couldn't
- 1:53:55Speaker 4: put my finger on it. You know, it was it
- 1:53:57Speaker 4: was a big deal. I thought turning thirty until I
- 1:54:00Speaker 4: turned fifty and come to find out it was a
- 1:54:05Speaker 4: surprise birthday and so help me was part of this.
- 1:54:11Speaker 6: The secret, diabolical secret.
- 1:54:15Speaker 4: And you know, he said something about, you know, getting dressed,
- 1:54:18Speaker 4: and you know, I think we were going out to
- 1:54:19Speaker 4: eat or something, and I think his comment was, you're
- 1:54:24Speaker 4: going to wear that? Well, yeah, I mean it's just
- 1:54:28Speaker 4: going to dinner, you know, for a birthday. He goes, well,
- 1:54:31Speaker 4: let's make it a you know, a little fancier.
- 1:54:35Speaker 6: Well, I don't have a ball gown, and he just
- 1:54:38Speaker 6: rolled his eyes.
- 1:54:39Speaker 4: So I changed clothes something a little snazzier, and we
- 1:54:45Speaker 4: head from.
- 1:54:49Speaker 6: Kind kind of sort of.
- 1:54:50Speaker 4: South Dellest side up thirty five and we're heading towards
- 1:54:54Speaker 4: my stomping grounds to Carrollton and then he takes the
- 1:54:59Speaker 4: ex that's going to take me to my mother's house,
- 1:55:03Speaker 4: and I'm going, what is going on here? So he
- 1:55:06Speaker 4: ended up pulling up at this really cool It was
- 1:55:12Speaker 4: kind of colonial a little bit, but you could rent
- 1:55:16Speaker 4: this place out for like parties and even weddings and whatnot.
- 1:55:21Speaker 6: And we pull in and I just.
- 1:55:23Speaker 4: See cars everywhere and there there was probably no fifty people.
- 1:55:31Speaker 6: In there, surprise, but and it was embarrassing.
- 1:55:38Speaker 4: And I mean, this was it was really really embarrassing,
- 1:55:43Speaker 4: but it was fun. But my mother and her best friend, Wanda,
- 1:55:48Speaker 4: those two were just an absolute force to deal with.
- 1:55:53Speaker 4: And you know, grew up with that lady and her
- 1:55:58Speaker 4: kids and still friends with her oldest daughter. And so
- 1:56:04Speaker 4: they it was that morning, and I can't believe they
- 1:56:08Speaker 4: did this because they were kind of maybe they were
- 1:56:10Speaker 4: trying to distract me from what they were doing. And
- 1:56:16Speaker 4: it was a Saturday morning, and you know, working full
- 1:56:20Speaker 4: time and two kids, it was a lazy Saturday morning. Well,
- 1:56:24Speaker 4: they had come to our house in the wee hours
- 1:56:28Speaker 4: of the morning and put black balloons all over my
- 1:56:32Speaker 4: front porch, in my yard a sign that said over
- 1:56:36Speaker 4: the hill. And at one point she was wanting to
- 1:56:41Speaker 4: she hadn't heard me call her and go, what the
- 1:56:44Speaker 4: hell have you done? And so she calls me and
- 1:56:49Speaker 4: she's like singing happy birthday to me, and I'm like,
- 1:56:52Speaker 4: I mean the kids are with me, We're in the bed,
- 1:56:55Speaker 4: you know, we're all just laying there and a bunch
- 1:56:57Speaker 4: of pillows and just you know, having found lazy, you know,
- 1:57:02Speaker 4: Saturday morning, she goes, have you looked outside yet?
- 1:57:06Speaker 6: And I'm like, what is it storming?
- 1:57:08Speaker 8: Is it?
- 1:57:08Speaker 7: Oh?
- 1:57:09Speaker 4: No, just go look outside? Because she couldn't stand it
- 1:57:11Speaker 4: any longer. So I went and I opened up the
- 1:57:14Speaker 4: door and I just stood there and I was like, like, cook,
- 1:57:20Speaker 4: get all this crap out?
- 1:57:22Speaker 6: How the are.
- 1:57:29Speaker 1: Funny?
- 1:57:30Speaker 6: No one pulled me again.
- 1:57:32Speaker 3: And I always wonder like people like you be able
- 1:57:35Speaker 3: to say, well, I don't make much on a birthday
- 1:57:37Speaker 3: is not a big deal to me.
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: Again, it is a big deal because it's yours.
- 1:57:43Speaker 3: And I always wonder sometimes are people afraid to, you know,
- 1:57:48Speaker 3: like to show much emotion about their own birthday? And
- 1:57:53Speaker 3: who taught them that? You know, what's going on there?
- 1:57:57Speaker 3: We need a head doctor for the head doctor.
- 1:58:04Speaker 7: No where to go with this.
- 1:58:06Speaker 4: I just I like it that my birthday is in October.
- 1:58:09Speaker 4: The heat is over with. And I like it when
- 1:58:12Speaker 4: my husband says, uh, do you want to go to
- 1:58:14Speaker 4: Poor Day for your birthday?
- 1:58:15Speaker 3: And I go, yeah, is that the barbecue place?
- 1:58:20Speaker 13: No?
- 1:58:21Speaker 6: Poor Day?
- 1:58:22Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah that Texas Coast.
- 1:58:26Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't dawn on me because you abbreviated it.
- 1:58:31Speaker 6: Yeah, and and there's rules.
- 1:58:33Speaker 4: You know, I get a mark or read, I forget
- 1:58:37Speaker 4: the name of the place always, and I do not
- 1:58:41Speaker 4: get a a pedicure.
- 1:58:46Speaker 3: Well, you know that was that was only that one
- 1:58:48Speaker 3: time in your life, and it might have just been
- 1:58:51Speaker 3: some chemical that they were using. A lot of these
- 1:58:54Speaker 3: places now are going organic and more natural, so you
- 1:58:58Speaker 3: might have better luck the next time you.
- 1:59:01Speaker 1: Gotta ask for it.
- 1:59:04Speaker 3: There's a salon that does hair men and women and
- 1:59:10Speaker 3: they do uh, the leg and foot massages and all
- 1:59:15Speaker 3: that stuff. And they got a whole wall of stuff
- 1:59:18Speaker 3: that says organic. So I'm sure there's a pretty good
- 1:59:22Speaker 3: business for that. And I remember I went in there
- 1:59:25Speaker 3: one time with Cheryl, was getting all this stuff done,
- 1:59:29Speaker 3: and they make Vietnamese coffee.
- 1:59:32Speaker 1: While you wait in there. Oh that stuff is good.
- 1:59:38Speaker 6: No, never again.
- 1:59:39Speaker 4: When you peel, when your skin turns red and swells
- 1:59:42Speaker 4: and peels from the cap down for lack a week, you're.
- 1:59:46Speaker 3: Like, yeah, well, but it could have been a couple
- 1:59:48Speaker 3: of things. One, you you don't leave the house, but
- 1:59:51Speaker 3: once everybody centennial and and two they might have had
- 1:59:55Speaker 3: a different chemical than your body and your body rejected
- 1:59:58Speaker 3: it quick. All right, guys, while we're at the end,
- 2:00:01Speaker 3: any last word, Susie, No.
- 2:00:03Speaker 6: It's just really really good show.
- 2:00:05Speaker 3: Enjoyed it, Bill, say good night, Greasy, reaching for the
- 2:00:14Speaker 3: Scotch and a cigar as we speak. Well, ladies and gentlemen,
- 2:00:18Speaker 3: we will post the show so you'll be if you're
- 2:00:21Speaker 3: hearing the show, it's because Susie got the link and
- 2:00:24Speaker 3: zoom worked beautiful and maybe next week.
- 2:00:27Speaker 1: We'll have a Rumble live and a recording. So we
- 2:00:31Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here.
- 2:00:33Speaker 3: And like Susie said, we're very grateful for all those
- 2:00:37Speaker 3: that stuck with us. We had a lot of people
- 2:00:39Speaker 3: tuned in this last couple of weeks and we had
- 2:00:43Speaker 3: like twenty six different nations. That's awesome. So we're grateful.
- 2:00:49Speaker 3: We're humbled, and we love having to do the show
- 2:00:54Speaker 3: and maybe make you smile and laugh and give you
- 2:00:58Speaker 3: some things to think about, maybe maybe help you make
- 2:01:02Speaker 3: some good decisions. If you ever need to contact us,
- 2:01:05Speaker 3: Cisco the website doc crupa dot com and you can
- 2:01:09Speaker 3: reach Susie, Bill or myself and we will get back
- 2:01:12Speaker 3: to you. May God bless you all with health and
- 2:01:17Speaker 3: happiness and keep your lives peaceful, free and safe. And
- 2:01:24Speaker 3: it is that time for good scotch, good cigars, and
- 2:01:30Speaker 3: good night, good night at all.
- 2:01:33Speaker 6: You're not everyone, God bless.
- 2:01:40Speaker 14: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
- 2:01:44Speaker 14: destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so old
- 2:01:51Speaker 14: before my time. Yesterday, when I was your, the taste
- 2:02:01Speaker 14: of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue. I
- 2:02:06Speaker 14: teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
- 2:02:11Speaker 14: the way the even breeze may tease a candle flame.
- 2:02:17Speaker 14: The thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things I planned,
- 2:02:22Speaker 14: I'd always.
- 2:02:23Speaker 7: Built to last on weakened.
- 2:02:25Speaker 8: Shifting sand.
- 2:02:28Speaker 7: I lived by night and shunned the naked light of day.
- 2:02:33Speaker 7: And only now I see how the years ran.
- 2:02:37Speaker 5: Away yesterday when I was young. So many happy songs
- 2:02:46Speaker 5: we're waiting to be sung, so many wild pleasures lay
- 2:02:52Speaker 5: in store for me,