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Can anyone beat the Scorchers in the BBL final? Plus the bolters for the World Cup! - Brendan Julian gives his predictions · The Follow-On

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to another episode of Fox Crickets podcast
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  Speaker 1: The follow On. My name is Courtney Walsh. I'm a
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  Speaker 1: senior reporter based out of the Melbourne office. Please be
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  Speaker 1: joined by former Australian star Fox Cricket favorite Brendan Julian.
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  Speaker 2: Lovely to have you aboard, Brendan.
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  Speaker 3: Going to be here mate.
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  Speaker 4: When I first got the message and going to catch
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  Speaker 4: up with you, Afi, it was Courtney Welsh from the
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  Speaker 4: West Indies and I thought, jeez, I didn't know he
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  Speaker 4: was not a podcast just.
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  Speaker 1: A little slower be fair to say. I've never had
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  Speaker 1: the talent less hair. And I did meet him, no Brandan.
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  Speaker 1: I met him outside the MCG when I was about
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  Speaker 1: seven or eight. I actually had the blonde. We waited
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  Speaker 1: and he walked out of the MCG with Michael Holding
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  Speaker 1: and talked to myself and my dad for about thirty
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  Speaker 1: forty more and he was just outstanding that Michael Holding
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  Speaker 1: was wonderful and I know you have come across both
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  Speaker 1: of them all the way through, but they were.
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  Speaker 2: So generous to a young man.
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  Speaker 3: Well he was to me.
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  Speaker 4: I've met him so many times, but one time I
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  Speaker 4: do remembers I faced him on a hat trick and
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  Speaker 4: Antigua in the second Test match.
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  Speaker 3: And it wasn't just as he wants to put you
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  Speaker 3: outside the endct.
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  Speaker 2: Did he get that hat trick ball? Did you actually
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  Speaker 2: hold him out in?
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  Speaker 4: Heally got out first ball, David Byrne got out. It
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  Speaker 4: was ninety ninety five in the windows and I struggled
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  Speaker 4: through and I remember I remember the first ball that
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  Speaker 4: I fought. I bet he was at the top of
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  Speaker 4: his mark, and I remember walking out there thinking, gee,
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  Speaker 4: here's a long way back, and then looked back at
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  Speaker 4: the keeper and he was way outside the ring. And
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  Speaker 4: this was a Test match, and I'm like, man, this
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  Speaker 4: looks fast. And then I remember Steve Warre coming down
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  Speaker 4: at the other end. He goes, mane, he's not boiling fast,
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  Speaker 4: don't worry about it. Just get your bat down. It's
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  Speaker 4: going to be a Yorker. And I thought, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: a good chance to be york And I remember him
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  Speaker 4: running in thinking, right, Yorker, short backlift, just just block
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  Speaker 4: it out, and sure enough was a bouncer and it
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  Speaker 4: nearly hit me in the head and the wind over
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  Speaker 4: the keeper for four buys and then Tuger walked down
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  Speaker 4: the other and he goes Geene's bowled really quick.
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  Speaker 3: Now, So I got through that.
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  Speaker 4: I got through the hat trick, ended up getting sixteen
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  Speaker 4: or seventeen or something that back in the end of
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  Speaker 4: the day out. So yeah, fond Memories of Court You
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  Speaker 4: was not not great, But I do remember I.
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  Speaker 1: Was going to say to you, are you someone that
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  Speaker 1: wakes up in cold sweats at the thought of having
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  Speaker 1: faced the West Indies?
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  Speaker 4: Uh yeah, yeah, Well on that tour ninety five only
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  Speaker 4: got to face you know, Ambrose and Walsh, the other guys,
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  Speaker 4: Joey Benjamin and and these guys Benjamin, Kenny, Benjamin and
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  Speaker 4: a couple of other guys weren't full flight, but when
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  Speaker 4: they get their towels up, and I was not watching
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  Speaker 4: them in that series and I didn't have to go
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  Speaker 4: out at all. So it was that incident to my
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  Speaker 4: other incident was you remember that incident when Steve Warren
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  Speaker 4: Kurt la Ambrose having that argument in the test patch. Well,
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  Speaker 4: I was in next and I was I was yelling out,
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  Speaker 4: why why is he stirring him up?
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  Speaker 3: I'm going in next tried out on a green top.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, there are frightening moments when you're thinking you
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  Speaker 4: don't want to go out.
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  Speaker 1: And that we had the what was it, the red
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  Speaker 1: handkerchief and you were you were ready to wave the
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  Speaker 1: white flag.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, definitely. That was that was crazy at that time. Anyway,
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  Speaker 4: and here we are.
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  Speaker 2: It's great, I mean, and these are the things.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why one of the pleasures of talking
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  Speaker 1: to the Fox ship good families. Everyone's faced or played
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  Speaker 1: against some of the great icons, and you can and
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  Speaker 1: you can put them into context. You've got an idea
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  Speaker 1: of how it is in terms of what's happening in
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  Speaker 1: a modern game, but also what you know, well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, it's funny.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you look at stats, right you see, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Jimmy Anderson getting you know, I don't know how many
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  Speaker 4: he's got probably thousand tests with you get straw Broad
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  Speaker 4: and got to McGrath. But tell you what, Courtney Walsh
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  Speaker 4: was a gem. I mean he's got five hundred test
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  Speaker 4: wigts and boisy background. It's got a heap as well.
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  Speaker 4: But I reckon Courtney Wish was the best flat track
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  Speaker 4: bowler in the world. I mean it was a flat
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  Speaker 4: track and nothing in it. He just seemed to get wickets.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, you know in longevity. He just him
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  Speaker 4: and then McGrath and Jimmy and they played for a
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  Speaker 4: long long time. It's amazing, that, isn't it. Where I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if you're going to get that out of
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  Speaker 4: players now because you've got so much cricket being played,
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  Speaker 4: but you know those guys would certainly do well in
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  Speaker 4: this year now.
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  Speaker 1: It's very very good to see it. But you've also
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  Speaker 1: been exceptionally busy, Brendan. You've had If we're coming to
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  Speaker 1: the end of what's been a long each summer with
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  Speaker 1: beginning all the way back with effectively South Africa given
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  Speaker 1: the top end series, North Queensland, into.
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  Speaker 2: A New Zealand tour, into.
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  Speaker 1: India, coming out for some white ball cricket late late
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  Speaker 1: October and November, the Ashes, and also what seems to
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  Speaker 1: have been a really really good BBL series and I
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  Speaker 1: guess just coming down to that, we're down to the
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  Speaker 1: last four. You know, we know that tonight there's a
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Stars have got an answer against the
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  Speaker 1: Hurricanes standing home, but the Sixers and the Scorches an
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  Speaker 1: even season.
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  Speaker 2: But do you see those are the best four teams?
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  Speaker 2: Is that how you would have.
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  Speaker 1: Sort of seen it from what's panned out the ladder,
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  Speaker 1: the table is telling the tale of who the best
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  Speaker 1: teams were.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I did the last game in Adelaide,
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  Speaker 4: which was Renegades and the Strikers, and those two teams
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  Speaker 4: are way off compared to the top four. At the moment,
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  Speaker 4: I think they're I think, you know, settled out right.
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  Speaker 4: It always does, you know, those are the top teams.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I thought the perse Scads had a slow start,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, you knew that they were going to
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  Speaker 4: come strong. I think the big bonus has been for
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  Speaker 4: the Sixers getting starkey back in Steve Smith. That's really
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  Speaker 4: helped their cause as well, because I thought that batting
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  Speaker 4: is a little bit light there in the Sixers and
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  Speaker 4: that sort of helped. Hurricanes are always consistently very very good.
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  Speaker 4: They've got a great list. I mean, look how well
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  Speaker 4: they're played without Tim David yet I think Nathan Aalyis
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  Speaker 4: is a big one for them him not playing that
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  Speaker 4: game being injured.
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  Speaker 3: And I picked at the start of the season that
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  Speaker 3: starts to win the competition.
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  Speaker 4: They look so good, I mean they have, they haven't
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  Speaker 4: really fired without Maxwell. You know, Sam Harper has been
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  Speaker 4: unbelievable for the Melbourne Stars. But they've just faulded now,
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  Speaker 4: haven't they. I think they'll get up and I think
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  Speaker 4: they'll beat the Hurricanes. I think Maxwell is a big
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  Speaker 4: game player. I think they're playing him out of position
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  Speaker 4: massively with storn It's batting him down the order. I
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  Speaker 4: think this guy should be matten up the order high.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't save him just for the power surgeon after
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  Speaker 4: the ten homes, that's what they want to do. I
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  Speaker 4: think he's better than that. I mean, he's gone to
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  Speaker 4: the World Cup. He's better than He's better than ten
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  Speaker 4: or fifteen balls. So I think that they get the
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  Speaker 4: combinations right at the Stars, they can beat the Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 4: Beating the Scorches in Perth will be that will be hard.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there were a lot of traveling and they
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  Speaker 4: play so well as Scorches. At home.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about a couple of the young guns and
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  Speaker 1: we saw one of them and we'll see them in
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  Speaker 1: this I suppose conclusion Marley Bedman last night he ends
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  Speaker 1: up getting the wicked of Steve Smith that there was
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  Speaker 1: some saying this is the sort of coming of age
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  Speaker 1: over almost in that performance. What have you seen of him?
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  Speaker 1: What's impressed you? I remember being in wa when just
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  Speaker 1: before the opening tests of the ashes, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you could sort of see he was as part of
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  Speaker 1: that sort of squad getting some of the new guys
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  Speaker 1: in what is impress You're about me?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you think you can go?
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  Speaker 4: I see when I first saw him, I hadn't seen
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  Speaker 4: a lot of him until I watch him on the
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  Speaker 4: TV and the Big Bash. I saw him to bowl
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  Speaker 4: against Davey Warner here and in in Sydney, and David
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  Speaker 4: want to fit him behind square for six. I think
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  Speaker 4: first ball that he faced him, but the way he
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  Speaker 4: came back and the way he bowled his line and
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  Speaker 4: length against the left hander under a little bit of pressure,
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was impressive. And I said straight away
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  Speaker 4: said this guy's good. This guy's got a lot of pace.
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  Speaker 4: Don't worry about the pace but his but his temperament
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  Speaker 4: is very good, his actions great. He bowls well to
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  Speaker 4: left handers's that's why I rek. And his strength is
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  Speaker 4: he also bowls well to the right hand if he
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  Speaker 4: can shape it away. But you could just tell there.
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  Speaker 4: His temperament is very good and his pace was consistent.
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  Speaker 4: So I thought that when I first saw him right
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  Speaker 4: back at the start of the BBL. I said, if
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  Speaker 4: they can keep him playing, I think he'll be really
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  Speaker 4: really good. I think him learning that in this T
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  Speaker 4: twenty format. I actually think he's a fifty over bowler.
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  Speaker 4: I think he can be in the one day side
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  Speaker 4: for Australia and certainly hold his line and length. Don't
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  Speaker 4: know about Test grit yet, that's just too earlier. I've
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  Speaker 4: never come out and call it, you know a bowl
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  Speaker 4: of that statues straightaway that you played Test Grigg. It's
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  Speaker 4: all about fitness for him. But I reckon he's got
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  Speaker 4: great accuracy, and I think that's just something that you
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  Speaker 4: don't it's very rare for a guy that can buy
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  Speaker 4: one forty five and have great accuracy. He's got a
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  Speaker 4: really tidy action and simple action. So I think from
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  Speaker 4: that point of view, I think he can progress quite nicely.
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  Speaker 4: And it's great that they're picking him straight away and
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  Speaker 4: they're using him in the four overs. I think that
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  Speaker 4: Ashton Turtis on you know what Marley's bowling, well, he's
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  Speaker 4: getting better and better and better. And I think from
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  Speaker 4: that first game that I saw him against the Thunder
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  Speaker 4: and Sydney.
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  Speaker 3: You know three or four weeks ago to where he
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  Speaker 3: is right now.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's improved, you know, and I think that's
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  Speaker 4: a big time for him, and no doubt I think
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  Speaker 4: it's a great mooved that got him up against Pakistan
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  Speaker 4: on flatish wickets. He bowls quite well on flat wickets
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  Speaker 4: and that's what I like about him as well. It
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  Speaker 4: doesn't necessarily shape the ball away, although he can in Pakistan.
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  Speaker 4: On subcontinent wickets, you need someone that's got speed through year.
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  Speaker 4: And for Abola that he's not skiddy, he's quite tall.
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  Speaker 4: He hits that back of a length, so I think
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  Speaker 4: I think you could boil well on subcontinent conditions.
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  Speaker 1: And that series of preparation for the I supposed to
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  Speaker 1: the T twenty World Cup in Sri Lanka and India.
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  Speaker 1: The series against Pakistan, the first time Australia has traveled
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  Speaker 1: to Pakistani in four years for kind begins in about
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  Speaker 1: a week or so, I think January twenty nine. We've
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  Speaker 1: also got Jack Edwards going across there and Matt Renshaw
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  Speaker 1: is in that in that squad no sorry T twenty
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  Speaker 1: squad where we rested a couple of the place what
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Jack would be one that's caught your eye.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you know what what what's good about him
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of others from the BBL that you've Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a couple that might make this in the in
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  Speaker 1: the maybe not this cycle, but in the next sort
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  Speaker 1: of World Cup cycle.
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  Speaker 2: There's there's a couple to look for.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think I think certainly the T twenty in
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  Speaker 4: the one day format. Jack Edwars has been a really
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  Speaker 4: strong performan. He's been a strong performer for the Sixers.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's put his hand up with the bat,
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  Speaker 4: he's put his hand up with the board. He's excellent
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  Speaker 4: in the field. So I I think if he keeps
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  Speaker 4: regressing as well, he's one guy that.
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  Speaker 3: Will lock in.
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  Speaker 4: He'll always be there because, as you know, the Australian
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  Speaker 4: team at the moment, there's so many breaks and it
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  Speaker 4: there's so many players that are resting, there's so many
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  Speaker 4: players that are injured, there's so many players that are
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  Speaker 4: awaiting to get back in the squad.
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  Speaker 3: So it creates opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: So you're going to need the players like at Jack Edwards,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Sean Abbott and those type of players. The
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  Speaker 4: Sixers keep churning out some really really good players. I
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  Speaker 4: think Will Sutherland from the Renegades is another one. He
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  Speaker 4: reminds me of a bit of a Jack Edwards. I
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  Speaker 4: think Jack Edwards has got him at the bat at
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  Speaker 4: the moment, but I think Will Sutherland's better with the ball.
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  Speaker 4: But there are two players that I think Australia can
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  Speaker 4: sort of back up in one day in T twenty cricket.
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  Speaker 4: I think you're going to need those type of players.
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  Speaker 4: I think Chowdrey is a great player from the Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 4: I think he can come out and play T twenty
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  Speaker 4: cricket for Australian in fifty over cricket for Australia. So
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  Speaker 4: he got these young players that are getting the opportunity,
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  Speaker 4: but it's taken them, you know, three or four years
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  Speaker 4: to get to where they are at the moment, and
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  Speaker 4: it's been a slow progression. They've taken on senior roles
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  Speaker 4: and that's what I've loved about the BBL. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Will Southern is the captain. He should be batting up
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  Speaker 4: in the order. He should be batting four and five
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  Speaker 4: for the Renegade's not. He needs to he needs to
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  Speaker 4: push himself up. Child is battered between one and six
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  Speaker 4: for the Hurricanes and he's sort of taking the Tim
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  Speaker 4: David rob but I think he's better than that as well.
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  Speaker 4: And as you said, Marley Beeman can take one ball
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  Speaker 4: and the power play and can come back and bowl
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  Speaker 4: one in the surge or he can bowl you know,
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  Speaker 4: two in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: So he's got three phases of his bowling.
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  Speaker 4: So I think the BBL has given those guys great
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  Speaker 4: responsibility and I think that's why they're progressing. It's not
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  Speaker 4: going to happen with every criticeter. Guys like Jake Fraser
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  Speaker 4: McGurk need to sort their game out. Either one he
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  Speaker 4: moves from the round gaze or two he bats at
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  Speaker 4: four and five. I think I think god of the
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  Speaker 4: days where you can just sort of go to the
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  Speaker 4: top of the or and just slog and think you're
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  Speaker 4: going to get away with it, and that gives you
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  Speaker 4: a free license. That's not improving his cricket. Where you
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  Speaker 4: see the guys like Sutherland, Beardman Chowdree and Jack Edwards,
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  Speaker 4: they've taken on more responsibility. If players like Jake Frais
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  Speaker 4: McGirk want to get better at their cricket, they need
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  Speaker 4: to take on more responsibility. And what I mean by
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  Speaker 4: that is to go, Okay, well, Jake, you're going to
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  Speaker 4: back four or five next season for the running games,
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  Speaker 4: but you're going to build a build an innings and
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  Speaker 4: you're going to try and win this games. I don't
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  Speaker 4: want to see at the top builder of slogging getting
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  Speaker 4: your free license because I don't think that's improving his cricket.
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  Speaker 4: So he's not the talent, he's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 4: But he needs to work and find a way for
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  Speaker 4: him to improve his game. And you know that's the
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  Speaker 4: beauty of the BBL. They can do that if they
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  Speaker 4: get given that responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: And it must be it's an interesting one.
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  Speaker 1: It must be testing for a young man who has
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  Speaker 1: had some success very very swiftly to then players in
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  Speaker 1: all sports gets sorted out for a period. It's the
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  Speaker 1: challenge of how you then find a way to rebound
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  Speaker 1: and then excel.
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  Speaker 2: And it's an interesting point you make.
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  Speaker 1: Does he take that extra responsibility as a man who
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  Speaker 1: will be twenty four for I think probably next year.
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  Speaker 2: Is he he's certainly getting ye?
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, yeah, it's a way for him to work
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  Speaker 4: out for the captain, you know, Will Southern or the
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  Speaker 4: coaching and you know Victoria or his coaches, Okay, well,
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  Speaker 4: you know you're twenty four now, so let's try and
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  Speaker 4: work out. Because in the BBL, as we've known, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's plans and you know you get worked out because
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  Speaker 4: you know other teams do their homework. You know, they
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  Speaker 4: find out they go okay, well he plays this way,
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  Speaker 4: so we're going to change your bowl and we're going
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  Speaker 4: to put a different ball rod. So you've got to
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  Speaker 4: be able to adapt. He's not adapting at the moment.
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  Speaker 4: And that's where I think you've got to sit down
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  Speaker 4: in your offseason and go, Okay, what am I going
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  Speaker 4: to be working on in this offseason? If I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to England and playing I'm going to a different league,
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  Speaker 4: You've got to have a process of Okay, how am
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  Speaker 4: I going to make my game better? It's no point
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  Speaker 4: me going in and playing in another league in England
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  Speaker 4: and just doing the same mistakes and getting away with
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  Speaker 4: it sometimes in England or getting away with it in
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  Speaker 4: you know, the Caribean Premier League or wherever it is.
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  Speaker 4: You've got to have a purpose to go, Okay, how
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  Speaker 4: am I going to make my game better? How am
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  Speaker 4: I going to make it better? So I can play
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: better and the BBL and get selected for Australia because
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: there are opportunities out There's no doubt about it. This
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: is the best time to be playing domestic cricket for Australia.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: You know, there's.
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: Spots opening up in the Test side, there's spots opening
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: up the T twenty, and there's spots opening up the
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: fifty over Cree. There's no better time to be playing
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: domestic cricket for Australia. I mean you can see it
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: now where even the big game play is now resting
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: or they been their workloads have been wrestling.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: So all that does is give you opportunity.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Marley Biebman, Cooper Conley, he's grabbed this opportunity and there's
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: a rising star of the competition Jack Edwards. You know
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: you're going to get opportunities, so you need to sort
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: your game out.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: At the other end of the spectrum, Lendon, would you
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: be flicking if you're a selector, would be tempted to
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: flick a Davy Warner a steaky text to say, are
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: you available by chance in February?
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: What are you up to?
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Look, there's no doubt he's played well, there's no doubt.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: You know, it's been amazing, a bit like Steve Smith
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: as well, but I think that ship is sale. You know,
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: we need to get better and there's no point going back.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: You know, these guys have had great careers. I mean
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Davey Warner, in my mind, I think he is the
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: best international cricket in all three formats in the last
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: twenty years. Barna, I think he's better than COLEI. I
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: think he's better than Steve Smith, you know, Roch Shalma,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: all these greats. He's the top of the top of
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: the tree. I think David Warner has been the best
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: cricket in the last twenty years on all three formats
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: and he's proven that. So it doesn't surprise me that
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: he's scoring runs. He'll be disappointed that the Thunder aren't
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: getting into the finals. That'll be his big thing because
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: as a captain you want your team to be winning.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: He's leading from the front. They're not following. They need
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: to sort out their plan, they need to sort out
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: their listen as well. So you know, I wouldn't be
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: going back to David Warner and these type of things.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I think that's a I think that's just one that's
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: moved on. I know Steve Smith come out and said that,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: look he looks great and wants to go to the Limics.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: I think that's too far gone the Olympics. I mean,
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: put him in the squad fisheral anchor. But you've got
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: to give credit to the selectors. I think they've done
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: a great job. I think the selections have been spot on.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: The only thing I would say this summer is yet
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: they should have played a spinner at the seg and
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: the last Test match. But apart from that, you can't
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: question what they've done. So the plans have been perfect.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Pat Commers and George Bailey have done a great job.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: So you know they sticking to their game plan. And
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately for Steve Smith, they couldn't squeeze him
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: into the squad, even though I would have liked him
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: to squeeze him there somehow. But who do you take
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: out at this stage? It's a tricky one. So you
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: know that's a hard.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: One and just running you through.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: When you talk about that, I suppose that disappointing campaign
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. We're seeing these back in twenty twenty
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: four and that World Cup. As we move towards towards
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: that we last one in Dubai in twenty twenty one.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: The squad was announced, you know, a little while ago,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and you think you've touched on this briefly, but it
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: might get you elaborate a little bit more. You talk
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: about the fact that we've got a couple of players
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: being rested and that Maxwell's not going to Pakistan. For example,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We've got we still don't know necessarily where Josh hazel
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Wood's adding that team and whether or not he will
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: be fully primed. You know, he's someone who works exceptionally
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: well and looked so magnificent as we saw in that
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: against India before he hurt himself. Pat Cummins, I guess
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: he's in the same boat. And you run through the squad.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I'll give a quick run through for those I haven't
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: heard it. Mitch Marsha's captain. We've got Bartlett in there,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Connolly he touched on before. Tim David, we don't know
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: where he's had injury wise, Cameron Green, Nathan Allie, Travis Head,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Josh Engliss is over as the sole wicket keeper, so
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: perhaps a little bit of a gamble there. Then youok
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: at Matt Cuneman, Glenn Maxwell, Matt Short, Marnus Sonus and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Adam Zamper, So you.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Know, quite a few spinning options.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: There some queries about whether our premier basement will be fit.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But you've got a couple of guns here obviously, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Alison Bartlett as well, who are more than handy players,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: aren't they.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'll go agree with that.
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, the bowling side doesn't sort of worry them
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: because I know what you're going to get from Pat
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Commers and Hayes. So when we saw Pat Commers in
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: the Test manage when he came back and played last
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Test match and then rested. So I don't have a
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: problem with pack Elms or Hayswood because I know what
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: you're going to get from those guys. What worries me
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: would be Maxwell. I'm surprised that he's been rested all
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: workload relieved or whatever you want to call it for
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Pakistan because he should be playing. He's had a pretty
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: ordinary BBO from his standards, but he's good enough player
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: to turn it around. I'd rather see him playing Pakistan.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: We'll see him in the finals, and you know, I
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: think him leading up to he needs more work rather
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: than less work, so I'd be putting the heat on him.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Tim David could be a little bit of an issue
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: because you haven't bat it for so long. I mean,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: batting in World Cup conditions are tricky. You know, they're
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: not easy when you're coming in the middle lord. For
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Tim Dave, you need rhythm. So hopefully he comes back
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: and he plays as many games leading into it as possible.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I think these training selectors are thinking like a Travis
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Head situation where they rested him and gave him up
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: to the right up to the last minute and then played him.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Then he got one hundred in the final and the
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: fifty over World Cup. So I think they think they
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: can get away with it with that, and you know
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: they're closer to it, they're closer to the players they understand.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I mean probably for these senior players, it's it's more
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: about their mental approach if they can get into the
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: right space. I still think that you still need in
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: a bit of a rhythm as a as a batter,
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: especially in the middle order.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I think Travis said at the top of the order
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: can get away with it because.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: It's a new ball fields up and you know, you
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: feel a bit a bit I think a little bit
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: easier in terms of you've got a bit bill time.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: But if you're out there with Tim David you have
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: fifteen balls and you've got to try and hit thirty.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: You haven't battered for a month, that's a bit of
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: an issue.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: So I don't I don't.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I don't worry about the bowling side of it. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: think the batting side of it's always initiated. You touched
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: on the spin. I think Cooper Connley has been the
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: most improved bowler in the bb along with Marley Beerman.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I mean Cooper Connley's bowling, He's nearly taking the situation
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: of a Maxwell.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: I think Maxwell Harvey bowled on the BBL which I
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: don't get still and just hasn't used him it. Also,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: I think Cooper Connley will be, you know, he'll be.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: He should be in the team though out of what
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: batting six four or five eight, wherever it is. But
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: he's bowling is really really handy. Your left arm spinner
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: in subcontent conditions is always very good to take.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: So I love that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: As you said, you've got Maxwell with the option of
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: the ball as well, and then you got Kodman as
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: a bit of a backup. Zamper didn't play the last
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: game against Rennegaz. He's been arrested. But I think he's
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: been the best white ball bowler you know, probably just
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: outside Hayswood, but he's been the lot for the last
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: couple of years and he's been the backbone about bowling.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I've got no problems with zams. I think it's a
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: pretty good squad. It just it just depends what the
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: format's going to be. Can I think take fifteen as
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: you said, you've got that backup keeper and I don't know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: maybe Maxwell to do if something goes wrong, or Matthew
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Ways in there as a coach, he might he.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Might come out as well. Answer your question, I think
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: they've got to covered.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: You know, obviously there's always worried when you've got players
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: that are injured, but I'm not worried about the bowling.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: I'd only be worried about the batting side of things.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: And just look before I let you go.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And it's been a pleasure to have you on Brendan
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and the follow on leading into the BBL Finals and
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: then a big month of cricket to come for Australia
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in terms of Pakistan and then the World T twenty
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: T twenty World Cup in Sri Lanka and also in India.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: We look at the format and we've got a five
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: match basically. You know, there's a twenty team World Cup,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: so you roll through your first five teams effectively, look
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: at that and you think, well we should get through.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: We've got sites like oh Man and that we should
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: be okay. Then you go into another round robin format,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: the super eights. It's an extended period just to try
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and progress, to try and get to that semi final,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: isn't it? And I guess there's a small marginal prayer
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: but not much you need to be on it. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it can be a little bit like Russian rule at
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: these sort of World Cups and T twenty matches. So
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: how do they prepare for that? How do they go
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Well, look, Pakistan two is a good one, but you're
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: not going to get most of them, you know, probably
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: only going to get ten of them that are playing
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: in those games. I think leading into these types of things,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: it's it's more about getting plays fresh, and that's what
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: they think, that's what they're doing.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Obviously Pat Cummens Hayes would come back from Ntory. You know,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Travist's had a bit of a break as well. They're
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: rotating Maxwell and these type of things as well, So
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: if they can get to that situation where they're fresh,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: that's probably a big plus. Like I said, I worry
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: about the batting, the amount of digs that they're having.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: That's a bit of an issue for.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Me, you know.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: And when you go to the subcond you get you
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: get over there and you get through those souper a
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: series and I'm expecting that, you know, obviously the boys
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: to get through to that and get into that last
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: qualifying sort of period. You can hit the ground running
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: and be nice and fresh, and I think that's it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: It's been a big summer for Australian so they're trying
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: to rotate the rest of the players.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: They've done that.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: The proofs always in the pudding, isn't it.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, at the end of the day,
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: you could always criticize Australia about wrestling players and then
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: they go and play in the IBL and they're saying
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: that they're tired, but you know, come out and they
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: win like they did against England and the Ashes they won,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: so you can't. You can't question it, So it only
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: gets in trouble when you don't win, and then and
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: then the hallmarks they start open up a bit as well.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: But I think in the next year you're going to
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: see a lot of changes cameraon because one they're aging players.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Two there trying to rotate them and rest them, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: three there's so many tests. But I think there's ten
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: test matches in the next eighteen to sixteen months, a
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: lot of one day tournaments. We played Bangladesh up on
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: the top end. After the World Cup, they traveled then
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I think to South Africa, they come back into New Zealand.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: So I think we're going to see a lot of
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: different players coming in and out of the teams.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And I'll put you on the spot for the last one.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I know you talked about the Stars you thought had
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the depth at the start of the BBL you you
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: were w a Bourne based in Sydney.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Who do you go for in the last four? Who
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: wins it off the mat?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Well, I'd love to see the Stars perform.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: Really, really, what was I think Marcus staun This is
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: really you know, he seems to have got that team
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: cranking along, But I think they've stumbled in the last
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: couple of games. Nathan Allis is a big loss for
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: the Hurricanes in this game, Maxwell Stein is these big
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: name players, basically, Sam Harper's carried the side. I love
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Pete Siddle the way he's bold. I love Harris Rolf
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: the way he's bold. In this BBL competition, I'd like
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: the Stars to go through. I don't think they're going
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: to beat the Scorches. I mean, they've got to travel
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: all the way over to the West again. But at
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, you don't look at the
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Scorches list. Man, it's so good. I mean Ashton Turner.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I even thought, even during the BB out of the season,
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: could they put Ashton Turner.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: In the squad for the work up?
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, mate, East bat in five or six
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: power hit at can Bowl.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: It's got all the attributes and.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: All the sidhets.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can't fit him in the team really,
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: But I'm thinking, I think they need to put this
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: guy in that I need to get him into the squad.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: So and then we still talk about Steve Smith. He
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: should be in the squad as well. If they don't
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: perform well in the World Cup, people are going to go. Well, mate,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: seats mean should have gone, and Ashton Turners had gone.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: All these players should have gone. So you know that
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: that per scorgeous squad is exceptional. I think Mitch Marsh
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: he's a big game player. He's my pick for the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: best player of the World Cup. I think he'll come
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: out and cream. I mean he he's got unbelievable power,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: great great sort of philosophy, the way he plays the game.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: I think players want to play for him. And as
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I said, and I think Cooper Connley is a big
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: game player, even though for a twenty two year old,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: he's improved and steadily on the rise with his game.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: So they're two good players. And then as I said,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: you have Bierman who's bowled really well. Over there, Aaron
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Hardy is a power player in the middle order. So
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: you look at the list there of the scorches made
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: God Richardson forgot about him, I mean when you're forgetting
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: about him and I got up there.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: So that's that's a pretty good list.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I can't I can't see too many teams getting past
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: that list, especially over there in Perth.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Noll and Mitch Marsh a good North melwen Man bless him. Look.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much Brendan for joining the following I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: hope you did get a little break after the after
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: the summer as well, but it's been enjoyed. Have you well,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: have you beaming through into the screens across the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks so much,