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O'Brien & Doug Ep171 [November 2, 2023 This Is One Smurfin' Podcast!] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_00: It's ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's preposterous.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's ludicrous.
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  SPEAKER_06: My God, it's infectious.
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  SPEAKER_09: Neil Brinding Duck Podcast is brought to you in part by Mojarmultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_09: They make music and first guy, the Ridge Runner in Westfield Maine.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm my cousin.
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  SPEAKER_05: Larry.
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  unknown: Who?
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  SPEAKER_03: Larry.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Larry.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's like somebody literally wrote down my worst nightmare and then charged me$32 to see it.
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  SPEAKER_09: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_09: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm Who am I again?
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  SPEAKER_09: That was good.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm Demon Doug.
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  SPEAKER_01: Ooh.
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  SPEAKER_09: So we are recording this on a Monday.
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  SPEAKER_09: Halloween is tomorrow.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's Halloween Eve.
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  SPEAKER_09: We're dropping it on a Thursday.
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  SPEAKER_09: We actually played a Halloween uh party the other night.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I was expecting a lot of Barbies and Ken's, but we only one, right?
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  SPEAKER_09: Two.
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  SPEAKER_09: Oh, there's two.
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  SPEAKER_09: Two, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: So not bad.
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  SPEAKER_09: Not bad.
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  SPEAKER_09: A lot of interesting uh costumes and and and great crowd participation.
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  SPEAKER_09: That's what we'll say.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're very uh very into it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what's going on.
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  SPEAKER_05: The last two gigs, people have been enjoying it.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm a little I'm a little suspect.
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  SPEAKER_05: Something is not right.
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  SPEAKER_05: The end of the world.
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  SPEAKER_05: What is that from Shakespeare?
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  SPEAKER_05: Something is something is what is it?
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  SPEAKER_05: Something's something something stin something.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it stinks in Denmark or something.
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  SPEAKER_05: Something stinks in Denmark.
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  SPEAKER_05: Something stinks in our coming, you know, in our band.
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  SPEAKER_05: What's going on?
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  SPEAKER_05: People are listening and enjoying it.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're not really sure what's happening.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's weird.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know how to hear it.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's hard to get used to.
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  SPEAKER_09: It is.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um we got a lot to talk about today, but yeah, uh first thing I want to talk about is well, Dream Theater.
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  SPEAKER_05: Portnoy came back, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: What is up with that?
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  SPEAKER_05: I have no idea.
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  SPEAKER_09: So I don't know what happened to Mike Man Genie, but Well, I will tell you that uh because I didn't I you know I never knew why Portnoy left.
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  unknown: To be honest.
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  SPEAKER_05: I just assumed it was, you know, because he was doing like, you know, Sons of Apollo and Winery Dogs and Well that came after.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but I'm saying maybe that was why, but I wasn't sure I didn't.
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  SPEAKER_09: It says it says in this article that Portnoy left Dream Theater in 2010, shortly after contributing to Avenge Sevenfold's nightmare album following the death of their drummer, Jimmy Sullivan.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh so so he left the band.
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  SPEAKER_09: Did he was he joining Aveng Sevenfold or was he just I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I guess I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_09: I don't either, but they replaced him with Mike Mangini.
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  SPEAKER_09: And uh Mangini said, he released a statement, he said, I understand Dream Theater's decision to get Mike Portnoy back at this time.
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  SPEAKER_09: As was said from day one, my place was not to fill all the roles that Mike held in the band, I was to play the drums in order to help the band carry on.
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  SPEAKER_09: My main role of keeping our live show work tightly on a nightly basis was an intense and rewarding experience.
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  SPEAKER_09: I anyway, it's all amicable.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're all Yeah, I mean it doesn't seem like it's like, oh no, yeah, you know.
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  SPEAKER_09: No, so I don't know if it was I don't know what what's going on there, but uh that what that surprised me.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh not in a bad way, I guess.
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  SPEAKER_05: I I'm I'm actually glad he's back.
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  SPEAKER_09: Because I mean he start he started the band.
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  SPEAKER_09: He uh he well they he was one of the founding of the band.
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  SPEAKER_09: So that was that was kind of neat to neat to hear.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh welcome back, Mike.
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  SPEAKER_09: Welcome back, Mike.
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  SPEAKER_09: And we should say Welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_09: So this is this is Monday the 30th.
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  SPEAKER_09: We just lost Matthew Perry.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know that was crazy.
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  SPEAKER_02: What a crazy.
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  SPEAKER_09: I mean and they haven't released they they said that the autopsy is what did they say?
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  SPEAKER_09: What did they call it?
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  SPEAKER_09: Deferred or something?
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  SPEAKER_09: Basically meaning they don't want to release it.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh all I know is they found him in a jacuzzi.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, if you drown in a jacuzzi, there's something else going on.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he must have had some he was either ODing or something.
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  SPEAKER_05: Had a cardiac event or something.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well, that's the thing, because I read in an article that the ambulance was called for cardiac arrest.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: So he probably had a heart attack in the jacuzzi.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: And then died from drowning.
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  SPEAKER_09: That's what I'm assuming.
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  SPEAKER_09: That's what I'm assuming as well.
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  SPEAKER_09: So that will wash out in the uh in the future.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's just a crappy, just a crappy.
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  SPEAKER_05: I know.
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  SPEAKER_05: He was my favorite one on Friends.
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  SPEAKER_09: He was my favorite one as well.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well, he and Joey.
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  SPEAKER_09: I like Joe.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and Joey.
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  SPEAKER_09: I like Joey.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, those two together.
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  SPEAKER_05: Together, we're perfect.
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  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I mean I mean you'd almost think that they were actual roommates and best friends in real life.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: Just the way they were.
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  SPEAKER_05: Because it was very natural ones.
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  SPEAKER_05: It was.
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  SPEAKER_09: It was.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, it was just very well, actually with all of them, really.
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  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Especially with those two.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Especially with those two.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well, you know what we'll have to do?
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  SPEAKER_09: We'll have to get some friends' cuts.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
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  SPEAKER_09: Get some friends cuts.
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  SPEAKER_09: To Matthew Perry.
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  SPEAKER_09: So yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: So rest in peace, Matthew Perry, one of the one of the good ones.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um and the other thing, I'm I'm kind of cruising through some of this stuff because I want to get to this one big thing.
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  SPEAKER_09: And then we also were going to fit in some Halloween stuff as well.
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  SPEAKER_09: Halloween stuff.
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  SPEAKER_09: But um Ultimate Classic Rock reviewed Dawkins' new album.
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  SPEAKER_05: Ah.
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  SPEAKER_05: This ought to be interesting.
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  SPEAKER_09: And let me just put one of these songs.
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  SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah, I was going to put one on while I read it.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um because I like the way I like the way they opened the article.
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  SPEAKER_09: Let me just put this song on.
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  SPEAKER_09: This is called Is It Me or You.
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  SPEAKER_09: And here's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_09: The guy's 70, for one thing.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh, although Timmy Hagar is 70.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he's older.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh, so this is the way it opens up.
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  SPEAKER_09: It says Don Dawkins knows his voice ain't what it used to be, and he wants fans to take note.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's like a motor car.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's getting worn out.
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  SPEAKER_09: If I can't sing the way they remember me, they just don't come to the show.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's no I've got no problem with that.
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  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh true to his word.
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  SPEAKER_09: Don said that?
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  SPEAKER_09: He said that, yep.
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  SPEAKER_09: True to his word, the piercing high notes of yesteryear are nowhere to be found.
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  SPEAKER_09: On Heaven Comes Down, Dawkins' first full uh album of original material since Broken Bones.
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  SPEAKER_09: Uh intermittent screams aside, Don Dawkins has always been the weak link of his band.
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  SPEAKER_09: That certainly wasn't going to change in his eighth decade of life.
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  SPEAKER_09: At least this time he can chalk his horse limp vocals up to age and thousands of hours on the job.
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  SPEAKER_09: Although they do go on and say the band sounds amazing, and they do.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, yeah, I mean the music is pretty darn good.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean it's no Lynch and Pilson, but and they they point that out too.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know, uh John Levin, uh who is the different song, it's called Just Like a Rogue.
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  SPEAKER_09: He's the replacement of George Lynch.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: And he's a great guitar player, very capable, but forgettable.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, this is what they say.
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  SPEAKER_09: It's it doesn't have the fire that George Lynch.
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  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it's straight up.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean it's it's it's it's what do you do?
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  SPEAKER_09: That's why we just want a little tight.
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  SPEAKER_09: Musically, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: Right.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um, anyway, the new album is called Heaven Comes Down.
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  SPEAKER_09: And uh they did say the band sounds great.
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  SPEAKER_09: Don Dawkins is Don Dawkins.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, but you could say that for any decade.
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  SPEAKER_09: You really could.
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  SPEAKER_09: Dawkins.
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  SPEAKER_09: You really could.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, he's yeah, uh the fact that he said, you know, he called out what'd he say?
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  SPEAKER_05: He was a weak link of the band.
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  SPEAKER_09: He was the weak link of the band, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: He really has been.
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  SPEAKER_09: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know, if you even if you look back on when we were big fans of Donald Trump.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, because you had you had Wild Mick Brown.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wild Mick Brown, George Lynch, and Jeff Pilson.
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  SPEAKER_09: That was like, wow, like that was an incredible band.
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  SPEAKER_05: Don Dawkins is like an afterthought.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_05: He's just really just kind of he's well, uh you got you got Mick and George and Jeff and that other guy.
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  SPEAKER_09: And then you got Don.
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  SPEAKER_09: The name of the band.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's really his only contribution to the band.
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  SPEAKER_09: Pretty much.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I think he probably writes lyrics.
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  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I'm sure.
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  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_09: You know?
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  SPEAKER_09: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I agree.
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  SPEAKER_09: Whatever.
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  SPEAKER_09: Um, so what did you have for Halloween?
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  SPEAKER_09: Because I want to because this is the next thing is gonna take a little bit of time.
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  SPEAKER_05: I want to do all the Halloween stuff together.
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  SPEAKER_05: So can we do it now?
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  SPEAKER_09: Or do you want to do it later?
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, we'll do it, we'll do one thing now.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: I found uh, you know, with Halloween coming up tomorrow, I was like, I wonder if there's any stories out there.
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  SPEAKER_05: Rock and roll ghost stories.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I found some interesting from Loudwire.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh it is uh what is it, what's the title of the album or the article?
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  SPEAKER_05: Twenty-one stories of rock star ghost encounters and paranormal experiences.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna go over all 21 because some of them I just don't care about.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh this is my this is a fun one.
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  SPEAKER_05: Alice Cooper's Amityville Horror.
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  SPEAKER_05: Of course, Alice Cooper.
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  SPEAKER_05: You know.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh see, back in 1983, Alice Cooper and Aerosmith Joe Perry got together to write some new music.
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  SPEAKER_05: Only to be totally uneasy with the full time due to their new surroundings.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh according to Cooper, hearing Perry, we're both fresh from rehab.
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  SPEAKER_05: So that tells you something right there.
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  SPEAKER_05: And I decided to work together on music for a new film.
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  SPEAKER_05: His manager set him up in a home in upstate New York that was an old house in the middle of farm country.
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  SPEAKER_05: As Cooper recalls, I'm putting away my clothes.
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  SPEAKER_05: I leave the room and come back and the closet door is closed.
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  SPEAKER_05: The drawer I was pack packing is closed.
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  SPEAKER_05: Hmm, I don't remember closing that.
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  SPEAKER_05: The house was full of whatever on that second night we were there.
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  SPEAKER_05: We're sitting there and eating dinner, and it sounds like somebody is moving furniture in the basement.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's making so much noise, it's not even trying to be subtle.
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  SPEAKER_05: Cooper then shared his experience with Perry, who related similar experiences since entering the house.
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  SPEAKER_05: We ran out of the place.
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  SPEAKER_05: I found out later this is where the guy who wrote the Amityville horror wrote the story in that house.
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  SPEAKER_05: I thought that was funny.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh oh, there we go.
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  SPEAKER_05: Some beans scary stuff.
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_02: I was working on it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh the doors singer breaks on through to the other side.
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  SPEAKER_05: I like that.
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  SPEAKER_05: You spend a lot of time with your bandmates, but imagine being visited by one of them from the beyond.
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  SPEAKER_05: The doors Ray uh Manzarek.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's how you say it.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yep, it is.
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  SPEAKER_05: Relate a story in which both he and fellow bandmate Robert Krieger were visited in the exact same dream by late singer Jim Morrison.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's really loud.
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  SPEAKER_05: Is it I have recurring German, which Jim has just returned from France, where he died, and has accomplished what he went there for in the first place to rest, get clean, and change his rock star lifestyle.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_05: We talk about where he's been and what he's doing.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_05: I ask him if he's been working on any new material, and just before he answers, I wake up.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_05: When I first told Robbie about it, he said, Yeah, me too.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_05: I had the same dream.
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  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_05: That was weird.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see here.
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  SPEAKER_05: Brett Michaels sees the light.
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  SPEAKER_05: The appearance of loved ones who have passed away seems to be a recurring theme here, so is the case for Poison's frontman Brett Michaels.
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  SPEAKER_05: While making an appearance on celebrity ghost stories, Michaels relayed the story of his crossing pass with an apparition he believes to be his late grandmother.
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  SPEAKER_05: I am not a person that every time I hear a crackle or a sound in the attic, I don't immediately say it's a ghost, says Michael.
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  SPEAKER_05: However, I believe I absolutely for sh for sure seen an apparition in my life.
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  SPEAKER_05: Michaels recalls when he was seventeen spotting a strange light in the basement and went to investigate.
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  SPEAKER_05: Dealing with his parents' divorce, his own health issues from diabetes, and the death of his grandmother, Michaels took it as a sign.
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  SPEAKER_05: It scared the hell out of me, said Michaels, but when I think back about it, it just motivated me, it motivated me enough to let me know that my life hanging out with these friends was going nowhere.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_05: What friends?
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_05: Didn't he join poison?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_05: He did.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_05: Man, how bad were these friends?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_05: Uh so badly that it so badly that day I needed to sign and got it.
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  SPEAKER_05: The rocker says it wasn't his only paranormal experience.
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  SPEAKER_05: He revealing his grandmother visited him on the deck of his Malibu home to share a congratulatory message and some family love.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, this one I found this one I actually saw.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_05: Vince Neal convinced of Sin City Spirits.
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  SPEAKER_05: I saw this.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_05: You saw what?
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_05: The story.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_05: The story.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: It makes sense that there might be some spirits floating around the Sin City Motley Cruise.
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  SPEAKER_05: Vince Neal decided to run travel channels Ghost Adventures.
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  SPEAKER_05: I saw this episode.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's what I meant.
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  SPEAKER_05: As they invested the spirits in room 908 at the Las Vegas, Las Vegas Riviera Hotel.
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  SPEAKER_05: He told Las Vegas Son, After what we experienced, I now really believe this in this paranormal phenomenon.
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  SPEAKER_05: When you watch, you too will be scared out of your pants.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_05: Well, with Vince Neil, that's not hard.
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  SPEAKER_05: Vince joined the show's hosts and several other Vegas celebrities at a party in the old hotel's penthouse in hopes of conjuring up some ghosts from the Las Vegas past.
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  SPEAKER_05: We experienced under unexplained first hand encounters, including scratch marks on one woman's back, cold sensations, voices, and knocking, Neil said of the expedition.
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  SPEAKER_05: But when we went back went into room 908, we really had the shocking, overwhelming physical experience of our lives.
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  SPEAKER_05: Sounds like one hell of a party.
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  SPEAKER_05: I actually saw that episode, so it was weird.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see here.
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  SPEAKER_05: Have you ever had a an encounter like that?
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I had a we had a weird thing happen at ATLC one year.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I gotta I gotta read through this one.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_05: And the extra man in black.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_05: It's not uncommon for a few guests to be around for recording sessions, but Black Sabbath had a surprise visitor during the recording of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_05: Speaking for the reunion CD liner notes, Tony Iomie recalled their sessions at Clearwell Castle in Wales, explaining that the band spotted a special visitor one night.
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  SPEAKER_05: We rehearsed in the armory there, and one night I was walking down the corridor with Ozzie.
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  SPEAKER_05: We saw this figure in a black cloak.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_05: I said, Who's that?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_05: And Ozzie said, I don't know.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_05: We followed this figure back into the armory, and there was absolutely no one there.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_05: Whoever was whoever it was had disappeared into thin air.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_05: So that's Alistair Crowley, right?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_05: And here's another probably never know.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_05: Uh here's another Black Sabbath story.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_05: Black Sabbath lyrical content has taken a trip to the dark side in the past, but Geezer Butler revealed that his fascination with Satanism once took a scary turn that left him a little frightened left him a little frightened to dig further.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_05: In the latter notes for Sabbath's reunion, see the basis recalls that he had been reading a weekly magazine called Man, Myth and Magic that delved into the topic of Satan.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_05: He was also reading books by Alistair Crowley and Dennis Wheatley, and had really started to immerse himself in the ideas of Satanism.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'd moved into this flat that I painted black with inverted crosses everywhere, Butler says.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_05: Well, that I mean that just that's just stupid.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_08: Right.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_05: He recalls Ozzy gave me this 16th century book about magic that he'd stolen from somewhere.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_05: I put it in the airing cupboard.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_05: What's an airing cupboard?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_09: Don't know, it's a British thing, I think.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_05: I guess so.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_05: I put it uh because I wasn't sure about it.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_05: Later that night I woke up and saw this black shadow at the end of the bed.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_05: It was a horrible presence that frightened the life out of me.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_05: I ran to the airing cupboard to throw the book out, but the book had disappeared.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_05: After that, I gave up all that stuff.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_05: It scared me poopless.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: So that's what you get from messing with the Satan stuff, dude.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_09: Tell me, go ahead.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Ace Freely.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_05: One thing that's not obvious when purchasing a news home is whether or not it's haunted.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_05: When speaking with celebrity ghost story, Freely recalled two different occasions when his wife and daughter were violently pushed down the stairs of their Westchester New York home by what he felt was a ghost.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_05: I always had the sense there was some sort of type of connection with me and the other side, Freely said.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_05: The musician also said he started noticing things being moved from place to place around his house.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_05: The guitarist moved back into the home with his new wife years later, and she immediately picked up on the eeriness of the place while being pushed down the steps as well.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_05: Freely revealed that a psychic told him that his house had been previously inhabited by an abusive mother who murdered her children in their home.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_05: Oh my.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_09: Tell me about the ATLC, the ghost.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no, I'm like I just want to make sure I got all the good ones here.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of them here.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_05: Well, here's one involving the chili peppers.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_05: The Houdini Mansion in Los Angeles is a popular place to record.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_05: I'd never heard of it.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_09: Neither.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_05: But nearly every act that spent time there has a ghost story, and that includes Red Hot Chili Peppers, who famously used the space to record their Blood Sugar Sex Magic album with producer Rick Rubin.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_05: During the sessions, drummer Chad Smith refused to stay at the mansion, stating, I'm not scared of ghosts, but I felt a presence.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_05: There were strange orbs that turned up in some photographs, and Flea reported spotting a woman in black.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_05: According to Kerrang, guitarist John Fruciani perceived the ghost to be friendly and even admitted to masturbating in front of them.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_05: That took a weird turn.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_05: That's Yeah, that's about it.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_05: That's the the rest of these are just kind of like people I've never heard of.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, wait, wait, here's here's one about Learn Skinnered.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, there you go.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_05: If they leave here tomorrow, would you still remember them?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_05: Well, there are some Leonard Skinner fans who believe a paranormal experience is happening in the trees around the Jack's Memorial Memor Jack's Memory Gardens Cemetery in Jacksonville, Florida, where Ron Ronnie Van Zant and Steve and Cassie Gaines were buried.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_05: Photographer Don Stollard shared a pair of cemetery photos with Halloween's Unseen, where it appears the faces of the buried band members can be seen in the nearby trees.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_05: None of the other photos from the shoot seemingly showcased the faces in the trees, but once Stollard posted his images, fans immediately picked out the one shot, noticing the resemblance of the deceased band members in the trees.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_05: It's as plain as day when you finally see him, Stollard says.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: I've had a long connection with Skinnard and the Van Zance, are friends of mine, and they were a little spooked but comforted by it as well.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: And it it does look like Cassie and Ronnie too, and they are buried side by side there.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_05: So Yeah.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_05: So there we go.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_09: Celebrity well, Rockstar, I guess.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_09: Rockstar, Rockstar Paranormal Experience.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_09: Paranormal experiences.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_09: Tell me about the one at ATLC.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, well, this happened.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_05: Have you told it before?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_09: Because I almost think I've heard it, but I don't remember what the what it was.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if I've told it before.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_05: But uh it was probably 10, 11 years ago.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_05: Had to been, yeah.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_05: Uh we were at MSSM.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_05: Mm-hmm.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_09: Main School of Science and Math.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_05: We were staying in those dorms.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_05: And there was one room that was all I don't know who who was staying in this room as as a student.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: Be it because it had like they had painted flames on the door and put 666 everywhere and stuff like this.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, it was it was it was even when you went by the room, we didn't use it.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_05: But even when you went by the room, it was a it was a creepy feeling.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_05: So one night I'm I was staying in the basement with uh a couple of the other, like uh with Iceman, Dusty, and uh coach Joko.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah and uh we were we're rooming together down and we were down in the basement.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm it was the end of the night and everybody was starting to go to bed and everything, you know, so all the kids were in bed and stuff like that.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I get this panic, like Doug, Doug, Doug, you gotta come up here, you gotta come up here.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_05: So haul butt up there.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_05: And one of the female staffers, she said she was in one of the bathrooms, she was brushing her teeth, she had the door open, and she heard a girl crying.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_05: She said, Well, that's you know it was it'd only been a couple nights in a camp, so a girl crying, you know, you know, homesick, you know, it happens.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_05: But she stepped out into the hallway and there was nobody there.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_05: So and then later that so I you know, so I you know, everybody was freaked out by then.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_05: So I went back down, down to the room, and about three it was it was probably three or four o'clock in the morning.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_05: I could hear something like it was like taking a wrench and banging on the pipes in the basement.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_05: It was like clang, clang, clang, and it went on forever.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_05: And I have no idea what it was.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_09: Day.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_09: To this day.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_09: So, yeah.
• 22:03
  SPEAKER_09: A little bit creepy.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_09: So, man, school, science, and math is haunted, is what you're saying.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know if it's haunted, but there's definitely something there.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_05: I think my my guess would be somebody was playing with a Ouija board and invited something in there.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_09: Uh-huh.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_05: That'd be my guess.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_09: Happy Halloween, everybody.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_09: I like to have this keyboard here.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_09: I'm going to take my hand off it though.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_04: Still going, still going.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's creepy, man.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, there it goes.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_09: There it goes.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_09: It's done.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_09: No, it's done.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_09: So happy Halloween, yeah.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_09: Yay.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_09: Uh alright.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_09: I have a couple of uh I have a couple of lists here.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_09: One of them's gonna drive you crazy.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_09: So one of them I thought, um, well, there's the top 30 glam metal albums.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_09: I could just list those if we wanted to.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_09: But the thing that is getting a lot of press, for good reason, is because it's it's it's become a joke of a magazine.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_09: Rolling Stone Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 250 greatest guitarists of all time.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, Rick Beato had a thing about this.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, everybody's doing a thing about it.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_09: But I don't know if you've seen the list.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_09: I have not.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, because I want to talk about it a little bit.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_09: Sure.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_09: Because I mean, I'm not even well, let's do the top 30 metal albums first.
• 23:26
  unknown: All right.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, according to uh Ultimate Classic Rock, number 30 is Quiet Rides Metal Health.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, remember this is glam metal.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_09: I guess.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_09: So this is that was in '83.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_09: White Lions Pride was number 29.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 23:40
  SPEAKER_09: Came out in 87.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_09: Dawkin, Speak of the Devil.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_09: Tooth and Nail.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_04: Good album.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_09: Uh, number 28.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_09: Would you say Tooth and Nail is because that was 84?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_09: Uh I'm not sure, because I haven't looked at this list.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_09: I I like Back for the Attack.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: That's my favorite one.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_09: That's my favorite one, too.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_05: That and uh the one before that.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um whatever that one was.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_05: The one before Back for the Attack?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Under Lock and Key?
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_05: Was that it?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-uh.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_09: Anyway, Dawkins Tooth and Nail was from 1984.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_09: That's number 28.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_09: Dangerous Toys.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_05: Ah, I haven't heard of that anymore.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_09: From 1989 was number 27, and they had what, Teasin' Pleasin'?
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_05: Teasing pleasing.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_05: I think that meant that might have been the only one they had.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_09: Um, I think you're right.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_09: Oh no, Scared.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_09: They did a they did a song called Scared.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, okay.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_09: Which actually was kind of a Halloween thing.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_09: It was uh it was a tribute to Alice Cooper.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_09: Um Michael Munro not faking it, 1989.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_09: I don't even know that.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_09: I don't even know.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_09: It was from Hanai Rox, the lead singer of Hannah Rock.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_09: That's number 26.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not sure I agree with that.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_09: Kiss Lick It Up, 1983, is number 25.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_09: LA Guns, their their uh uh self-titled album from 1988, which I think is that the one that had Ballad of Jane on it?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_09: Electric Yeah, Ballad of Jane's on that one.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_09: Wasp.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_09: We talked about Wasp last week.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_05: I never I don't think they were a glam metal.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't either.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_09: Uh but they're at number 23 from 1984.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_09: Bad Lands, their self-titled album from 1989.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_09: Jake Lee, of course, he went on to do uh Aussie.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_09: The Cult, Sonic Temple.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_09: That's a good album.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_09: That's a great album.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Sun King's on that Firewoman, of course.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_09: Warren's Cherry Pie from 1990 is number 20.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_09: Poison, open up and say ah is number 19.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_05: Bon Jovi not their best one.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_05: No, yeah.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_09: Bon Jovi, New Jersey.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't really consider them glam metal.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't either.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_09: So I don't even consider them metal at all.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_05: No, hard rock, yes.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_05: Not metal.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_09: Def Leopard's Hysteria.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_05: Are they really glam metal?
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_09: I don't think so.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_09: They came out with a new wave of British heavy metal.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, they're metal-ish.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_09: I wouldn't consider them metal.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_09: I consider them a hard rock.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_09: Which album?
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_09: Hysteria.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_05: Hysteria.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_09: From 87.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_09: That's number 17.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_09: Poison's Look What the Cat Dragged In, 1986.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_09: That's a great album.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_09: Number 16.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_09: Rat Out of the Cellar.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_09: Uh 84.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_09: That's number 15.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_09: Warrant.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_09: Dog Eat Dog, which is 92, actually.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure why that's that one's better than cherry pie.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_09: Apparently.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_05: I thought cherry pie was better.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_09: That's uh number 14.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_09: Hanoi Rocks, um, from 81.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_09: That's number 13.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_09: Cinderella's Long Cold Winter.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_09: Ah, great album.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_09: That's uh number 12.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_09: That'd be in my top ten.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_09: From 1988.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Motley Crue, Doctor Feel Good.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_09: 89.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Warrant, Dirty, Rotten, Filthy, Stinkin Rich.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_09: That was a great album.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_09: That's from 89 as well.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_09: That's number 10.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_09: We're in the top 10 now.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_09: Uh White Snakes, White Snake.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_09: The 87 album.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_09: Gotta go with that.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_09: Extreme 2, Pornography.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_09: Great album.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_09: Uh, from number 8.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_09: I don't can still I don't consider them glam, though.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_05: No, no, no.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean they were glam-ish.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_09: You think so?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that and that one?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_09: David Lee Roth, Eat Him and Smile.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_05: Not really glam.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_05: I don't, I know.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_09: Def Leopard's Pyromania.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_05: That's not glam.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_09: No, not at all.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_09: But that's number six.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_09: Bon Jovi, Slippery When Wet.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_04: It's still not glam.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_09: It's not metal.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_09: It's hard rock.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_09: Number five.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_09: Um, number four is Aerosmith Pump.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_09: Not glam.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_05: Not glam at all.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_09: Motley Crue's shout at the devil.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_09: Motley Crue is glam.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_09: That album is glam.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_09: From 83, uh, that's number three.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_09: Skid Row.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_09: The first album.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_09: Would you consider that glam?
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_05: Not glam.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_05: It's definitely metal, but it's not, it's not glam.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_05: I never thought of them as glam.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_09: Here I am, you know, big guns.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_09: Um 18 and 11.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_05: It's a debut album, right?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's a great album, though.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's number two.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_09: And Motley Cruz Too Fast for Love is number one.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_09: Nah.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_09: 1981.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_09: Nah.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_09: Some of those I would agree with, and some of them I I I I take issue with.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_05: Was that Ultimate Classic Rock?
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_09: It was.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_09: Which kind of baffles me.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_05: That is.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe maybe it was a guest writer from Rolling Stone.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_09: So speaking of Rolling Stone, everybody and their sister has uh talked about this.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_09: We haven't done it yet.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_09: Because and and I'm not even talking about the fact this is the twenty hundred and fifty greatest guitarists of all time, according to Rolling Stone magazine.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_09: Which when they exactly when they came out, when Rolling Stone magazine first came out, they were it.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, if you were in Rolling Stone magazine, you'd made it.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_09: And now it's and now it's kind of a joke.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_05: It's it's pathetic.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_05: Um you're a pathetic Rolling Stone.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_09: So there's a lot of guitar players on here that I've never heard of.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_09: That doesn't mean anything.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, because there's a lot of guitar players that are great that I've never heard of.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_09: Right, exactly.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_09: So I'm not going to take anything away from them.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_09: But there are legendary guitar players who are not even on this list.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_09: There are legendary guitar players who are.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_09: Well, let me just.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, so I don't want to do all 250.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_05: I was about to say we ain't got that kind of time.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_09: No, we don't have that kind of time.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_09: Um, what would you like to do?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_09: We can gloss over the top 100.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_09: We could do the top 50.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I'm not interested in the in the bottom, the bottom half.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_05: So if we I uh if we if we just you know skimmed over the top 100.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_09: Top 100?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_05: I think I think we got time for it.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_09: Are you ready to get ticked off?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_05: Sure.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_09: Why not?
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_09: Good.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_09: It's Monday.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_09: It's Monday.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_09: It's Halloween.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_04: Why not?
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, let me let me um actually let's do this.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_09: Um before we get into the top 100.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_09: Name me a guitarist that you think is an amazing guitarist, like a legendary guitarist.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_09: Eddie.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, Eddie.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, Eddie's on that list.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I would hope so.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, number four.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_05: All right.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_05: Give me another one.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Hendrix.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_09: Number one.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_09: Hendrix is number one?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_09: Hendrix is number one.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, I didn't see that coming.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_09: Give me one that's Nuno.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_09: Nuno Betancourt.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_09: Let's see.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_09: I'm cruising over the list here.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_09: Hold on, because I have it in a couple of different forms.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_08: Mm-hmm.
• 30:32
  unknown: Mm-hmm.
• 30:33
  unknown: Mm-hmm.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_05: Is he in the top 100?
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_05: Uh nope.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_09: No?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_09: Nope.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_09: Hold on.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I'll give you a little indication.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_09: Steve Vai is 127.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_05: Steve Vai is 127?
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_05: Holy crap.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_09: Mm-hmm.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_09: Mm-hmm.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_09: Mm-hmm.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_09: Nuno Betancourt is number 197.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_02: What?
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_09: That's you know who's 196?
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_09: Who?
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_09: James Taylor.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_05: James Taylor's better than Nuno.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_05: This last socks.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_05: What the frick, dude?
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: You know who is also better than Nuno Betancourt?
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_02: Who?
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Lita Ford.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: Lita Ford?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_02: She's good.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_02: She ain't No good.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's insane.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: What about Reb Beach?
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_02: Reb Beach.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, let me start over.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_09: Reb Beach, who is an amazing guitar player.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_09: I'm cruising, I'm cruising, I'm cruising, I'm cruising, I'm cruising, I'm cruising.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_09: Man, he must be way down there now.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_09: I'm cruising.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_09: I'm cruising.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_09: No red beach.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_09: He's not even the list?
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_09: He's not even on the list.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_02: What the frick?
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_09: Not even on the list.
• 32:03
  unknown: Okay.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_09: So, you still want to do the top 100?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know, man.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: Let's yeah, let's let's just, you know, let's make my night complete.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_09: Number 100.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_09: Carrie King.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_09: From Slayer.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_09: Um.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_09: Below Carrie King from Slayer is Billy Gibbons, Nancy Wilson, Slash.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, this is the top.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_09: So Carrie King's 100, Billy Gibbons is 102, Slash is 105.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_09: Lindsey Buckingham is one of the two.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_09: Wait, they said ten.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_05: Carrie King's better than Slash?
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_09: And Lindsey Buckingham.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_09: Um better than Warren Haynes.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_09: Uh better than Steve Vai.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_09: Carrie King's better than Steve Vai.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_09: So let's go back to the 100.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_09: Stupid.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_09: Toastinabassi, who is an amazing guitar player, he's at number 99.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_09: I'll give him that.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_09: I have no idea what that is.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's he's actually Steve Vai would say still Toastin Nobossi needs to be higher.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_09: All right.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_09: Link Ray is number 98, who's a surf guitar player.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Steven Malcolmist from Pavement, number 97.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_09: Mark Knoffler, Dire Straits, number 96.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_05: He's way down there.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_09: Hold on.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_09: This this woman.
• 33:47
  SPEAKER_09: Mary Timony.
• 33:48
  SPEAKER_09: No idea.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_09: She's better than Mark Knoffler.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_05: Really?
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_09: She's Was that her playing?
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it was her playing.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_09: She's but she's ranked number 95.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_05: I can play better than that.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_09: She's number 95.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_09: You know who number 94 is?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_09: Who?
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_09: Joe Satrioni.
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_09: Sachs is 94?
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_09: What the frick?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_09: But she's one better or one worse.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_09: Just one.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_09: Just one.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_09: Leo Nocentelli of the Meters.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_09: No idea.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_09: 93.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_09: Wata from the band Boris.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_09: He's 92.
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_09: Kat Korr from Third World is 91.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_04: No idea.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_09: Mdu Moktar from Niger is 90.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, you know who's also better than Steve Vai?
• 34:29
  SPEAKER_09: Who?
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_09: Lou Reed.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: Lou Reed?
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's number 89.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_09: Lou Reed?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_09: Lou Reed.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_09: From the Velvet Underground.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_02: What the frig?
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Kurt Cobain?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_09: Number 88.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_09: Poison Ivy.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_05: Kurt Cobain is better than Steve Vai.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_09: Poison Ivy of the Cramps is 87.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_09: Sonny Sharok, 86.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_09: Larry Carlton, the fantastic fusion jazz guitar player.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_09: He's number 85.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_09: Then Muddy Waters.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_09: Then the two guitar players from Adrian Smith and Adrian Smith and Dave Murray from Iron Maiden.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_09: They're number 83.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Steve Vai.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_09: Wes Montgomery, great jazz guitar player, 82.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_09: He should be a higher, as far as I'm concerned.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_09: Burt Johnch, 81.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_09: Derek Trucks, number 80.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_09: Derek Trucks is 80?
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_09: You know who's better than Derek Trucks?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_09: Who?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_09: Willie Nelson.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_05: Willie Nelson is not better than Derek Trucks.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_09: You know who's better than Willie Nelson?
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_09: Joan Jett.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_00: I might give up with that.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_09: Richie Blackmore is number 75.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_09: I'm just going to skip around here.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_09: I'm not going to do the whole thing.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_09: That's cool.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_09: So let's see.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_09: Django Reinhardt is number 70.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_09: Django Reinhardt, who's a classically, you know.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, he's famous, man.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_09: 70?
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_09: He's number 70.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_05: What the frig?
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_09: Let's see.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_09: So I'll do some names that you might know.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_09: Rye Cooter, 66.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_09: John Mayer.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_09: John Mayer's 61.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_05: John Mayer make the top 100.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_05: I would have put him somewhere in the hundreds.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_05: Like a hundred, you know, between 100 and 150.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Alex Lifesin of Rush is 58.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_05: Is that it?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_09: Man, that's crazy.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_09: Um, let's see.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Alex Lifeson would be Bonnie Wait.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_09: That's PJ Harvey is number 49.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_09: She's higher.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_09: PJ Harvey.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_09: She's higher than the both of them.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_09: What?
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_09: The Edge from U2 is 47.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_09: Better than John Mayer.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_09: Frank Zappa is 46.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_09: Steve Cropper, 45.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_09: But you know who's just one better than Steve Cropper?
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_09: Who?
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_09: Johnny Ramone.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_05: Johnny.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_05: The dude knew three chords.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_05: One, two, thirty-four.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, Vernon Reed, Living Color, is 42.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_05: He should be way higher.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_09: Are you ready?
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_09: Number 39.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_09: 39.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_09: Chet Atkins.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_05: Chet Atkins is number 39.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_09: 39.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_09: One better than Chet Atkins.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_09: Angus Young and Malcolm Young of ACDC.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no, no.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_09: Only a couple better than them, though, at number 35, Eric Clapton.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_09: Clapton's 35.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_09: 35.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_09: You know who's better than Eric Clapton?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_09: Who?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_09: Jerry Garcia.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_05: Jerry Garcia is better than Eric.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_05: What the frig?
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_05: This is a stupid list.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Jerry Garcia, Brian May, Jack White, George Harrison, Neil Young, Dave Gilmore of Pink Floyd.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_09: Let's see.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not going to argue any of those.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_09: John Frusciani of the Red Hot Chili Peppers is number 25.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't put him that high.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_09: Right under or right ahead of John Fruciani is James Burton from Elvis Presley and Ricky Nelson fame.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_09: And then right ahead of them, James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett of Metallica.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_09: Number 23.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, I'm going to take anything away from those two guys, but should they be that be high?
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_05: Be that high on the list?
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not sure.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um I mean, the Shepherd would definitely be on that list.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_09: Absolutely.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_09: No question.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_09: Uh number 21, Randy Rhodes.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_09: Randy Rhodes is only 21.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_09: 21.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_09: Guess who Tony is?
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_05: Uh let me guess.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_09: Bob Hope.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_09: Stevie Stevie Ray Vaughn.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_05: He should be higher.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Stevie Ray Vaughn.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_09: Tom Morello.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_09: Rage Against the Machine.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Stevie Ray Vaughn, but Keith Richards.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_09: Prince is number 14.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_00: I will yeah.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_09: He should be higher.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Prince, Tony Iomi.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's that's a stretch.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_09: Nope.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_09: Uh Carlos Santana is number 11.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_05: I wouldn't even put him that high.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_09: Uh let's go to the top 10.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, here's the top 10.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_09: Now, some of these I agree with.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_09: And some of the and you have to kind of put it in context because is it is it the I haven't read the article, to be honest.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_09: I just read the list.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_09: Um so the impact that they've had on rock and roll.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean that should be a factor.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_09: There should be a factor.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_09: No question.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_09: Uh number 10, Dwayne Allman.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_09: Allman Brothers.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know that I'd put Dwayne that high.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: Nah, he'd be definitely top 50.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, probably.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe 25.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_09: Number nine, Joni Mitchell.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_05: Joni Mitchell.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_09: Who's a fantastic guitar player, folk guitar player?
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_05: Well, no, I mean, no doubt about the players.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_09: One of the top 250 of the greatest guitarists of all time?
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 40:07
  unknown: No.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_09: Number eight, BB King.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, you know B.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_09: King when he plays.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_09: You know it's him.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, absolutely.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_09: You know?
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_09: And did have a huge impact.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, huge, yeah.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_09: Nile Rogers, number seven.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_09: From Sheik.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_09: Um He's better than B.B.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_09: King.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_09: I would put him on this list.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_09: I would put him in the top 50, probably.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_09: Number six.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_09: This is for the historical thing.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_09: Sister Rosetta Tharp.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, okay.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know that I'd put her in the top ten.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_05: No, but definitely up there.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_05: I would say top 20.
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_09: Number five, Jeff Beck.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_09: See, now I would put Jeff Beck higher.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_09: Maybe that's just because he's one of my favorite guitar players.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_09: Sure.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_09: But I would definitely put Mark Knoffler way higher.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_09: Way higher than he was.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_09: Number four, like I said, Eddie Van Halen.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_09: Number three, Jimmy Page.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_09: Number two, Chuck Berry.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_09: And number one, Jimmy Hendrix.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 41:06
  SPEAKER_05: I don't think Chuck Berry should be number two.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_05: Well, Chuck I mean, he was a pioneer.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_05: He wasn't.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_05: I will give him that.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_05: But I guess I I guess if you factor in, you know, influence and Yeah, it's it's the lens that you're looking through.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_09: You know, because look at Jimmy, look at Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Eddie Van Halen.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_09: Look what they did to guitar.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's true.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_09: You know what I mean?
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_09: For that purpose, I didn't even mention him.
• 41:31
  SPEAKER_09: Hold on.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_09: Guess who is number sixty-eight?
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_09: Les Paul.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_09: Les Paul says.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_09: Les Paul should be higher, I think.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I would say so.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_05: He has his own guitars.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_09: Richie Blackmore of Deep Purple is 75.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_09: I just Andy Summers of the Police, number 250.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_09: He's number 250.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_09: He should be way higher.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_09: Paul Simon is 246.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_09: Keith Urban, 241.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_09: I'm going names that you might know here.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_09: Let's see.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_09: Because most of these you don't.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_09: Molly Tuttle, who's a bluegrass uh folk guitar player.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_09: She's great.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_09: Shouldn't be on this list.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_09: Sorry.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_09: Lizzie Hale's on this list.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_05: Well, 218.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_05: She is pretty good.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_09: She is very good.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know that I think she's one of the greatest of all time.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_05: No, but you know, she's definitely up there.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_09: Um, let's see.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_09: No names that you might know.
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_09: Eric Johnson, 205.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_09: Vince Gill, 202.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_09: Jerry Reed, 198.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_04: Jerry Reed?
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_09: One one lower than Nuno Betancourt.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_09: Uh, we mentioned uh lead of four.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_09: Steve Lucarthier's 186.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_05: No, he should be way higher.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_09: Way higher.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_09: Mike Campbell of the Heartbreakers is 180.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_09: He should be higher.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_09: Marty Stewart is on this list.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_04: Really?
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, 174.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_04: Huh.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_09: One better than Marty.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_09: Actually, so you do you know who Rory Gallagher is?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_09: He was he's 175.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_05: He should not even be on the list.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_09: Rory Gallagher?
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_09: You don't think so?
• 43:09
  unknown: No.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_09: You don't like his guitar playing?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_05: Not really, no.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_09: I think he's a genius.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_09: Anyway, Marty Stewart is one better than Rory Gallagher.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_09: And one better than Marty Stewart?
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_09: Paul McCartney.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_09: Great guitar player.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_09: Chrissy Hind is better than Paul McCartney.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_09: John Lennon is better than Paul McCartney.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_09: He's 159.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_05: Not even.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_09: 159.
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_09: Better than John Lennon.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_09: No, no, I'm sorry.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_09: I got it backwards.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_09: Pat Matheny, who's a jazz player player.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, he's amazing.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_09: He's better than or Carl Perkins is one better than Pat McEyne.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_09: No, I know.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_09: Let's see.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_09: I'm just kind of going through here.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_09: Let's see if there's anyone else you know.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_09: Susan Tedeski is at 139.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_09: She's a great guitar player.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_09: She's a great guitar player.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_09: Don't think she's one of the greatest of all time.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_09: Joe Perry.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_09: Perry of Aerosmith is 136.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_09: Robert Cray is better than Joe Perry, though.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_09: Dimebag Daryl is better than Robert Cray and Joe Perry.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_09: At 131.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_09: Joe Walsh is better than Dinebag Daryl.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know about that.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_09: Nita Strauss is better than Joe Walsh.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_09: Nita Strauss is 129.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_05: She made the list.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_09: She did.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_09: Steve Vai, a couple more than her.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_09: She's he's again, like I said, 127.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_09: Better than Steve Vai, Kim Thail of Soundgarden.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 44:31
  unknown: No.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_09: Better than both of them, Mike McCready and Stone Gossard of Pearl Jam.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just I just don't get it.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_09: I don't get it.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_09: Uh I'm gonna stop there because I'm gonna drive myself crazy.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_09: Um what a stupid list.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_09: It is a stupid, stupid, stupid list.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_09: It really is.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_09: Uh and you can see it for yourself on Rollingstone.com.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_09: It's it's crazy.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_09: Um I don't know what they're thinking.
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_09: There are people that deserve to be on that list.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_09: And I can't, and all the people that I didn't mention that I don't know their names, like I don't know them, they could be awesome.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_09: So I can't really say anything about them.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_09: I don't I don't know, but I I can't really I can't really say you know that they don't belong on that list because I don't know their work.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_09: But the people that I do know their work, come on.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_05: It's a joke.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_05: The fact that Mark Knoffler is in the 90s, that's just stupid.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_05: That just no.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_09: I agree.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_09: I agree wholeheartedly.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_09: So I'm gonna close out of that list right now before I have a heart attack.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_09: And we should we should.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_05: That was loud.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_05: I'm do I'm too depressed now.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_09: It's time to read.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_09: From the What letter are we on?
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_09: Uh W X.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_09: Or an X?
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_05: We only have three weeks left.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_05: This would be interesting.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_05: Who is X?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_05: Come on, I don't know.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_05: Let's find out.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see who Beck Feiner who probably writes for Rolling Stone.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um what she came up with.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_05: Uh oh.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_05: You're never gonna get this because I don't even know who this is.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_09: Actually, wait, wait.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_09: Give me the name of the band.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, give me the name of the band.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_09: I'll try and find their music.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_05: Symphony X.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_05: Symphony X?
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_05: I never heard of them.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_05: To be honest with you.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_09: Uh hold on.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, it's one of the new metal bands.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, I was about to say.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_09: Okay, go ahead, read.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, founded in 1994, that which makes sense why they would be on the greatest metal, you know.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, New Jersey Symphony X, as the name suggests, embraced neoclassical metal and soaring operatic vocals.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_05: They interpreted famous poems with the Odyssey in 2002 and Paradise Lost in 2007, the latter reaching number 76 on the chart.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's kinda like that, you know, dragon force sound to it.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_09: Except that.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_05: No, it doesn't.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_09: There's no storing vocals there.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, this says storing operatic vocals.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_09: It doesn't sound like operetic to me at all.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_05: No.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_09: It's just called Set the World on Fire.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_09: Again, uh like you said, uh a band I've never heard of.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I didn't know.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_05: Was that the it?
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_09: Was that the whole write-up?
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_05: That's the whole write-up.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_09: Back finer.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_09: Uh I guess can you think of another band that would have made it into King's X?
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_09: King's X.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know if I called them.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know if they're metal.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, they're they're uh they're hard rock.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_05: Anthrax?
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, anthrax would have fit in there.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_05: Anthrax would have fit there, but no, let's put Symphony X.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_05: Because that's that's just amazing.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_05: No, just you know, let's not put Anthrax in there.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_09: I've never heard of uh Symphony X.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_05: I never either, so that was that was interesting.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_09: Let's let's close that up.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, please do.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_09: Thank you, Beckfiner.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_09: All right, we're gonna take a break.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm kind of glad that's the last of the Beckfiner books.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_09: We've lost we've lost faith in our friend Becky.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_05: It was it was it it started off as a neat thing.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_05: And now it's just sad.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_09: It is pretty sad.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's you know, and so you know, once this one is done, we're we're not gonna get any more.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_05: Well, we'll well, we're gonna replace it with something awesome.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_05: The Michael McDonald moment.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_09: We're not gonna do that this week because I don't have anything prepared.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_05: But well, I I thought that's what we were going to replace this with was the Michael McDonald moment.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_05: So that's why I wasn't worried about this.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_09: We may run out of Michael McDonald moments.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_05: Well, then we'll just come up with something excellent.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_05: Like we usually reading out of the dictionary.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_05: That's probably better.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_05: That'll be fun.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_09: That's what we do around here.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_09: Let's uh let's take a break, then we'll climb the wall of tunes.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_05: My shoe's untied and it's driving me crazy.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_05: So I gotta while we're on break, I'm gonna go.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_09: You tie your shoe and uh I'll take a picture of it, post it on our Facebook page.
• 49:28
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• 49:33
  SPEAKER_09: All right, we'll be back.
• 49:34
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  SPEAKER_09: I saw the Ridgerunner today.
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  SPEAKER_09: Oh, did you?
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  SPEAKER_09: Well, that's good.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_05: I'm glad he's doing stuffing.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 50:41
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• 50:42
  SPEAKER_09: Stuff.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_09: He's doing stuff.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_05: I think I was gonna just say nothing.
• 50:47
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• 50:50
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• 50:51
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• 50:52
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• 50:54
  SPEAKER_05: With a nice turkey.
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• 51:04
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• 51:07
  SPEAKER_09: Alright, so it's Halloween.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_09: So as I climb the wall or two looking for uh an album, a CD off this wall.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, I'm going to read a classic.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_09: You're gonna read a classic because it's Halloween, and we Halloween would not be the same without some Edgar Allan Poe.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_05: That's right.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm going to give you a dramatic reading of The Raven.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_09: Like the the whole thing?
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_05: Should I?
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_09: How long is it?
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_09: It's not that long.
• 51:36
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's only like a page and a half.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_09: Alright, do that.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_09: I'm gonna climb.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna climb like Once upon a midnight dreary while I pondered weak and weary Over a many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore, while I nodded nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping, as of someone gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_05: Tis some visitor, I muttered, tapping at my chamber door.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_05: Only this and nothing more.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_05: Ah, distinctly I remembered it was in the bleak December, and each separate dying ember wrought its ghost upon the floor.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_05: Eagerly I wished the morrow.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_05: Vainly I had sought to borrow from my books Circe of sorrow, sorrow for the lost Lenore, for the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenore, nameless here forevermore.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_05: I don't understand that, but her name's Lenore.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_05: How is she nameless?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_05: I don't understand that.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_05: But I'm not Egrion Paul so and the silken, sad, uncertain rustling of each purple curtain thrilled me, filled me with fantastic terrors never felt before.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_05: So that now to the beating of my heart I stood repeating, 'tis some visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door, some late visitor entreating entrance at my chamber door.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_05: It is this it is and nothing more.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_05: Presently my soul grew stronger, hesitating then no longer, Sir said I, or madam, truly your forgiveness I implore.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_05: But the fact is I was napping, and so gently you came rapping, and so faintly you came tapping, tapping at my chamber door, that I scarce was sure I heard you.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_05: Here I opened the door.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_05: Darkness there, and nothing more.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_05: Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams of no mortal ever dared to dream before.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_05: But the silence was unbroken and the stillness gave no token, and the only word there spoken was the whispered word Lenor.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_05: This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word Lenor, merely this and nothing more.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_05: Back into the chamber turning, all my soul within me burning.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_05: Soon again I heard a tapping somewhat louder than before.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_05: Surely said I, surely that is something at my window lattice.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_05: Let me see, then what thereat is, and this mystery explore.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_05: Let my heart be still a moment, and this mystery explored. 'Tis the wind, and nothing more It's a weather report.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_05: Open here I flung the shutter, and with a many a flirt and flutter there in there stepped a stately raven of the saintly days of yore.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_05: Not the least obeisance made he, not a minute stopped or stayed he, but with mine of lord or lady perched above my chamber door, perched upon a bust of palace just above my chamber door, perched and sat and nothing more.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_05: Then this ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling by the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore, though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou, I said, art sure no craven, ghastly grim and ancient raven wandering from the nightly shore.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_05: Tell me what thy lordly name is on the night's Platonian shore.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_05: Quoth the raven, nevermore.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_05: Much I marvelled this ungainly fowl to hear discourse so plainly, though its answered little meaning, little reverency bored, for we cannot help agreeing that no living no living human being even was blessed with seeing bird above his chamber door Burger beast upon the sculptured bust sculptured sculptured bust bust above his chamber door with such a name as Nevermore.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_05: But the raven sitting lonely on the placid bust spoke only that one word, as if his soul was in that one word did outpour.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_05: Nothing farther than he uttered, not a feather, then he fluttered, till I scarcely more than muttered, Other friends have flown before, on the morrow he will leave me, as my hopes have found before, then the bird said, Nevermore.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_05: Startled at the stillness broken by reply so aptly spoken, doubtless said I, what it utters is only its stock and store, caught from some unhappy master, whom unmerciful disaster followed fast and followed faster till his song's one burden bore, till the dirges of his hope that melancholy burden bore of never, nevermore.
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_05: But the raven still beguiling my sad fancy into smiling, straight I wheeled a cushioned sheet Straight as that in there?
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_05: That's in there.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: Poe was ahead of his time.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_02: You can see him writing that.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: How do you spell B R R R Try.
• 57:13
  SPEAKER_05: Oh no, I was a I English is not my mother tongue.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_05: Ah straight I wheeled a cushioned seat in front of the bird and boston door.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_05: Then upon the velvet sinking I betook myself to linking, fancy unto fancy, thinking what this ominous bird of yore, what this grim, ungainly, ghastly got and ominous bird holy cow, that's a lot of words right there.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_05: Ominous bird of yore, meant in croaking, nevermore.
• 57:41
  SPEAKER_05: This I sat engaging and guessing, but no syllable expressing to the fowl, whose fury, fiery eyes now burned into my bosom's core.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_05: This and more I sat divining, with my head at ease reclining on the cushion's velvet lining.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_09: You said bosom.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_05: They did.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_05: That lamp light gloated o'er.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_05: But whose velvet violet lining with the lamp light gloating over her?
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_05: She shall press Ah nevermore.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_05: Then methought, which is very street.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_05: The air grew denser, perfume from unsome un from perfume from an unseen censor, swung by seraphim whose footfalls tinkled on the tough floor.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_05: Wretch, I cried, thy God hath lent thee.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_05: By these angels he hath sent thee.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_05: Respite.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_05: Respite and napenth.
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_05: That's quite a word.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_05: What is it?
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_05: Nepenth.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_05: Nepenth.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_05: Nepenth?
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_05: Napenth.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_05: What it means, I have no idea.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_09: I just like watching you say it.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_05: Nepenth.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_05: That's great.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's the word of the day, kids.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_05: Nepenth.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_05: Wait, wait, spell it.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_05: N-E P-E-N-T-H-E.
• 58:58
  unknown: Okay.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_09: Continue, I'll tell you what it means after.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_05: From thy memories of Lenore, quaf, oh quaff this kind Nepenth, and forget this lost Lenore, quoth the raven, nevermore.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_05: Prophet, said I, thing of evil, prophet still, if bird or devil, whether tempter sent or whether tempest tossed thee here ashore, desolate yet all undaunted, on this desert land enchanted, on this home of hor on this home by horror haunted.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_05: Tell me truly I implore, is there is there bomb in Gilead?
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_05: Tell me, tell me I implore Quoth the raven, nevermore.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_05: Prophet said I, thing of evil, profit still if bird or devil, by that heaven that bends above us, by that god we both adore.
• 59:52
  SPEAKER_05: Tell this soul with solden late with sorrow laden, if within the distant Aden, it shall clasp a sainted maiden whom the angels lame Lenor, clasp a rare and radiant maiden whom the angels name Lenor, Quoth the Raven, nevermore.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_05: Be that word our sign of parting, bird or fiend, I shrieked up starting.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_05: Get thee back into the tempest and the night's plutonian shore.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_05: Leave no black plume as a token that thy that of that lie thy soul hath spoken.
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_05: Leave my loneliness unbroken.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_05: Quit the bust above my door.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_05: That's a weird sentence.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: You said bust again.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_05: I did.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_05: Take thy beak from out my heart and take thy form from off my door.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_05: Quoth the raven, nevermore.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_05: And the raven never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting on the pallid bust of Pallas, just above my chamber door.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_05: And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming, and the lamplight o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor, and my soul out from that shadow that lies floating on the floor shall be lifted nevermore.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_05: That's a scary story from 1845.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_05: One of the greats.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_09: I did not know that.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_05: He did.
• 1:01:26
  SPEAKER_05: He didn't graduate.
• 1:01:28
  SPEAKER_05: But still went.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_05: Which I think is impressive.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_09: Anyone that goes to West Point is impressive.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:01:37
  SPEAKER_09: Is a well it's mentioned in the Odyssey.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_09: It's a drug mentioned in the Odyssey as a remedy for grief, but it says something that induces forgetfulness of sorrow.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_09: Or eases pain.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_04: Well, there we go.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_09: Oh gosh.
• 1:01:51
  unknown: I forgot to do this.
• 1:01:52
  SPEAKER_09: Good job, Doug.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_05: That was terrible.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_09: Nice work.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_09: One, two, three.
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  SPEAKER_09: Okay.
• 1:01:58
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, that's good.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 1:02:02
  SPEAKER_09: So while you were doing that, you were doing such a wonderful job.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_01: Doug, no, read good.
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_09: I did climb the wall of tunes.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_09: And I have an album.
• 1:02:11
  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_04: Is it head ground po?
• 1:02:14
  SPEAKER_04: It's not.
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  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_04: Did you know that's eep?
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_04: Edground Poe.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_04: Eee.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_05: I'm surprised that's not in a poem somewhere.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_09: I'm sure it is.
• 1:02:33
  SPEAKER_05: You know you had to be, you know, I don't know.
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what it's like to write poetry.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_05: You know, per se.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_05: Especially back in, you know, mid-19th century.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean he must have been like what am I saying?
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_05: What what does this even mean?
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_05: The penthouse.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_05: Who would have thought of that?
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_05: Did he spell out?
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_05: He should have.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_05: That'd be cool, man.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe that maybe that's in like, you know, maybe that's like in a rough draft somewhere.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_05: Cole thraven no more.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_05: That'd be great.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_09: I think he'd I'd buy that at an auction.
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_09: I think he drooled a lot.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_05: Well, he was a kind of a heavy drinker.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_09: That's what I was saying.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_09: I think he I think he drooled a lot.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_05: I bet he passed out on his Probably Parchment.
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_09: We should watch it.
• 1:03:22
  SPEAKER_09: I bet you there's a biography episode of Edgar Allen Poe somewhere.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, probably.
• 1:03:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I've never I've not uh read one or watched one or anything.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_05: Well you know, if you if you think of all the like he wrote the first detective story.
• 1:03:36
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean most of the stuff that he I mean we we like when I was teaching English, we read a bunch of Poe.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_09: We did The Fall of the House of Usher.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_09: Um what was the um the um Pit and the Pedulum?
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_05: Pit and the Pendulum.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's great.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_09: They're all great stories.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_09: I mean it's just it's kind of creepy in the world.
• 1:03:55
  SPEAKER_09: Well, yeah.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_05: The the what was that one?
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_05: The Scarlet No.
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_05: Is that Scarlet something?
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_05: Pimpernel?
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_09: No, no.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, the the mass the Scarlet Mask of uh Amontato?
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_05: No, that's the cask of cask of Monteato.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_09: That's a creepy one.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_09: Is that him?
• 1:04:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, I thought so.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_05: Walls a dude up?
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_05: That was that that's great, man.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_05: There was another one that was a scarlet something.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_05: I can't remember what it was.
• 1:04:24
  SPEAKER_05: That was a that was always a creepy one.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, he was good, man.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_09: Now you got me wondering.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_09: Hold on.
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's probably right here.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, you're probably right.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_09: Because you've I mean you do have I have a book.
• 1:04:35
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a real book.
• 1:04:37
  SPEAKER_09: Is it is it in the table of contents?
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm looking at.
• 1:04:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I mean, it this is like everything.
• 1:04:47
  SPEAKER_05: Scarlet Raymond.
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_05: Now what was the name of it?
• 1:04:51
  SPEAKER_05: Pitch in the page.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_09: Mask of the Red Death.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_05: Is that what you're thinking of?
• 1:04:55
  SPEAKER_05: That's a really good one, man.
• 1:04:56
  SPEAKER_05: If you ever if you ever want to really read a good story that's really kind of creepy, that read that one, man.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_05: And the Cask of Amont.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:05:07
  SPEAKER_09: The Cask of Amontato was good.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_09: That was a great one.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_09: But yeah.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_09: Anyway.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_09: Um I have an album.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_09: Alright.
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_09: So uh let's have guessing.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_04: Begin.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_04: Alright.
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_04: Band?
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_04: Rock band?
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_04: What is the name of the rock band?
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_04: Good try.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_04: No, really.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_04: Uh-oh, wait, that's a great name for a band.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_04: Good try.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_04: Good try.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_05: Good try! Good try!
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_09: Ladies and gentlemen, good try! We should name it name the man College Try.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_09: College try?
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_09: Gave it the old college try.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_09: That would work.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, it would.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, it's on the same plane as like free beer and bare-naked ladies.
• 1:05:58
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_09: Well, you saw the the names that I wanted.
• 1:06:02
  SPEAKER_09: Bakesale.
• 1:06:03
  SPEAKER_09: I think bakesale would be a great name for a bake.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_09: Bakesale would be a great name for it.
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_09: Bakesale, and uh the other one um I came up with was which was uh hot work.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_04: Hot work?
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_09: Which is the antithesis of cold play.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_04: I forgot about that one.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_04: I forgot about that one.
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  SPEAKER_09: Alright, go ahead.
• 1:06:22
  unknown: Hot work.
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  SPEAKER_05: Um height of popularity.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh late 80s.
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  SPEAKER_05: Late 80s.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_05: Guns and roses.
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  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_09: You made a bold statement about this ban on uh uh either the last podcast or the podcast before.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_09: I did?
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_05: Like in a good way.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_09: You made a bold statement about this actually, this this particular album.
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  SPEAKER_09: I did.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_05: Why did I do that?
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_09: And we all we actually uh technically um ironically mentioned them on this podcast.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not surprised.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_09: Oh I don't listen to you when I'm I don't I don't listen to myself.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, I'm just going.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's like stream of conscious, right?
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_05: And once I'm done, it's like delete program.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_09: You did you did lazy the last podcast or the podcast before?
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_09: You made a bold statement about this very album.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_09: And this very album was on a list that we read earlier in this podcast.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_05: Was it on the glam metal list?
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_05: It was.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_05: Do I have this album?
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_09: You rave about this album.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_05: Is it Def Lapard?
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_04: So it's not hysteria.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_04: Nope.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_04: Curiouser and curiouser.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, is it extreme?
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_09: Nope.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_09: Let me just say, I have not read The Farmer's Almanac yet.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_09: So I don't know if the name of this album will pertain to us.
• 1:08:21
  SPEAKER_09: Yet.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, it's Cinderella.
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  SPEAKER_05: Long cold winter.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_09: Cinderella.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_09: Long cold winter.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_09: It's such a good album.
• 1:08:30
  SPEAKER_05: Don't you remember what you said?
• 1:08:31
  SPEAKER_05: You said something like that.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's one of the greatest albums ever written, man.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_09: Yes.
• 1:08:35
  SPEAKER_09: Or at least that year.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_09: You said no, you did say it was the greatest albums.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_05: I would put it up there as one of the great albums of all time.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_05: To be honest with you.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_05: Let's see.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_09: Actually, this starts out with bad seamstress.
• 1:08:52
  SPEAKER_05: Ah, yeah.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_05: This is the one you gotta start out with, because this is just great.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_05: Bad seamstress blues.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_09: Every song on this album, I mean only ten songs.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_09: It was ten songs.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_09: This is back what they they used to do back in the 80s was ten songs.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, I mean, that's all you can fit on a cassette.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:09:22
  SPEAKER_09: Alright, I'm gonna fast forward.
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_07: Here we go.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_09: Blues hard rock.
• 1:09:38
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_05: This is my favorite part.
• 1:09:41
  unknown: All I've got is come on down.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know where else it's like that.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_05: That is one of the greatest opening of an album anywhere.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_09: I agree.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_09: So so this song, Bad Steam's just blues, goes right into one of the big ones, Gypsy Road.
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_09: Gypsy Road.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_09: Which is classic.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_09: And of course, Tom Kiefer.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know how that dude ever sang.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_09: Well, you know, he had a lot of vocal problems.
• 1:10:40
  SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_09: Well, obviously.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_09: Vocal surgeries because of uh I don't think he was doing it right.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_09: You don't think really?
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_09: Well, I mean, look at Brian Johnson.
• 1:10:50
  SPEAKER_09: Brian Johnson still sings his name.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_09: I know, yeah.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_09: BCDC.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_09: How that guy even has a voice.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_05: It's amazing.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_05: But the funny thing is, Tom Kiefer, when he talks, he doesn't sound anything like look at the the um well, I was gonna say this one right here.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_09: So coming home, which is also a hit for them.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_09: He's got a great voice.
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_09: Just regular voice.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_07: But a man's gotta make his way.
• 1:11:29
  SPEAKER_09: And you know, he doesn't, because he's still going.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_09: Tom Kiefer's going.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, yeah.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_05: Well, it's not Cinderella anymore, right?
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_05: Right, it's not Cinderella.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, but I don't even think he does a lot of Cinderella songs.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_09: Um there's a whole legal thing that you can see.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, I'm sure there's always always a legal.
• 1:11:47
  SPEAKER_09: Uh this, of course, was the big hit.
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_05: Uh the big ballad.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_09: The big ballad.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_09: Which was great, though.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's Well, as far as ballads is concerned.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's one of the best.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_05: It's one of the better ones.
• 1:11:58
  SPEAKER_05: Power ballads, yeah.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_05: Power ballads.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_09: Don't know what you got until it's gone.
• 1:12:06
  SPEAKER_05: I'm just trying to.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_05: I'd like to get in that mindset, how he thought this is how I'm going to sing.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_05: Well, don't you think it's he's he's But I it's definitely it stands out.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_05: Right, but when you hear him sing, you're like, oh, that's Cinderella.
• 1:12:23
  SPEAKER_09: You don't think he was a big ACDC fan?
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_09: He might have been emulate Brian Johnson.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_05: Maybe.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_05: But it's it definitely makes him distinctive.
• 1:12:32
  SPEAKER_09: Oh yeah.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_05: You know?
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you you you could be like anywhere.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_05: You could be in an airport in Taiwan.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_05: And they play a Cinderella song over the loudspeakers in one of the busiest airports on the planet.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:12:51
  SPEAKER_05: You would be like, oh, Cinderella.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_09: Cinderella.
• 1:12:53
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_09: Um, and then you had people that were trying to imitate Cinderella.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_09: I think of Brittany Fox.
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_05: Ah yeah.
• 1:13:02
  SPEAKER_09: Girl school.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_09: Girl school.
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_09: You know.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_09: Such a classic.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_09: Now this is my this one is my favorite song on this album, right here.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_05: Sings sing nice.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_05: Sings nice.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_09: I just love this song.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: I also like this video.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_09: The chorus has such a uh I don't know how to explain that.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_09: It's a rocker, right?
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_09: You're Bobba.
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_09: But the melt of the um the chorus is very melodic.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, and the video for that song is pretty great too.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:14:30
  SPEAKER_09: Uh video?
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_09: What what are those?
• 1:14:32
  SPEAKER_09: What are videos?
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, bump kids.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_09: So that's from 88.
• 1:14:38
  SPEAKER_09: Cinderella, Long Cold Winter.
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_05: Is it really that old?
• 1:14:42
  SPEAKER_09: It is that old.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_05: Oh.
• 1:14:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_05: Some reason I thought it was older, but.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_09: No, it's uh of course Night Songs was the one I think before that, right?
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, that was their first first one.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_09: With Nobody's Fool and things like that.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_09: And then Heartbreak Station, I think was a great after Long Cold Winter.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_09: Um just, I mean, a great band.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_09: Just great band.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_09: Absolutely.
• 1:15:04
  SPEAKER_09: And again, we mentioned that Tom Keefer is still going, and he's got his got some got a solo record out or a f a few a couple solo records out.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_09: He's got a couple three.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_09: Um I think so.
• 1:15:12
  SPEAKER_09: Um and still just sounding awesome.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_09: Actually, I wonder if I could just before we just before we wrap up here, I wonder if I could play one of his solo uh songs because I wanted to see if he's actually doing let's try this one.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_09: So this is from seven years ago.
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_09: I actually interviewed uh Tom Kiefer on the radio.
• 1:15:42
  SPEAKER_09: You did, when?
• 1:15:43
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, when I was on the rock.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_09: I don't remember that.
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_09: You don't remember that?
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_09: Uh I wish I'd kept it.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_09: This is called the Flower Song.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_09: And I I believe it was for this album.
• 1:16:01
  SPEAKER_07: And I'm trying to play it so cool as I'm trying to catch the eyes.
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_07: And I know sometimes I wanted to be so it's not the same as Cinderella.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_09: It's a bit more stripped down.
• 1:16:20
  SPEAKER_09: This isn't this isn't really uh good indication of what his solo album is because the solo album does rock.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_09: That sounds like Cinderella.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_09: That sounds like but notice how he's not singing his high.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean, you know, he's not gonna be singing at all, man.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_05: But it still sounds great.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:16:46
  SPEAKER_07: You know my arm is true.
• 1:16:51
  SPEAKER_05: That is the first time Cinderella has made the Wall of Tunes.
• 1:16:54
  SPEAKER_09: There you go.
• 1:16:57
  SPEAKER_09: That's a good song.
• 1:16:58
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, no, I like it.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_09: I like it.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_09: I like I I just like Tom Kiefer.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_09: I think he's I think he's underrated.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_09: I think he's deserves more recognition than he gets.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_01: He's pretty great.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_09: So there you go.
• 1:17:07
  SPEAKER_09: That is the Wall of Tunes album of the week, Cinderella's Long Cold Winter.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_09: And that's episode one.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_05: And that worked out perfectly because we got snow.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, we did get snow.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_09: Yes, we did.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_09: Snow is stupid.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_09: My my uh my uh my one of my boys is like because we were gonna I was like, we gotta move the grill into the shed.
• 1:17:26
  SPEAKER_09: Oh, we should leave it on the deck so we can grill in the wintertime.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah, okay.
• 1:17:30
  SPEAKER_09: You gonna you gonna shovel around it?
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_09: Anyway.
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_09: So we should move it in the Dad, the snow's not gonna stay.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_09: Dude, it's gonna be 35 degrees as a high for the rest of the week.
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_09: I think the snow is here.
• 1:17:40
  SPEAKER_09: I don't think it's gonna go away.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_05: It's supposed to be sunny, so I think it's gonna You think it's gonna go away?
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_05: Well not gonna go away, but it's not gonna stay long.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's gonna be in the forties and it's gonna rain this weekend, so we'll see.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_05: I hope you're right.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean I don't foresee it staying too much.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_05: It's gonna stay for a couple days.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_05: I'll do that.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_09: We'll have a white Halloween.
• 1:18:02
  SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:18:03
  SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean it's Maine.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_05: You got you your costume has to fit over a snowsuit anyway.
• 1:18:10
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's just that's just common sense.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, you know.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_05: That's just how it is up here.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_09: It is.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_05: You know?
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, people from the south don't understand it, you know.
• 1:18:20
  SPEAKER_05: You don't just go out and trick-or-treat in your costume.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it just doesn't happen.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_05: You're either gonna wear your jacket over it or under it.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_09: My daughter is smurfett.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_05: Is she really?
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_09: I told her, I asked her, I said you're gonna paint your face blue.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_09: No.
• 1:18:34
  SPEAKER_09: Well well then you're not smurfetting.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_09: Sorry.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, come on.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_09: It doesn't work that way.
• 1:18:38
  SPEAKER_09: You can't just put on the costume and the hat and and just say you're smurfett.
• 1:18:43
  SPEAKER_09: You have to have you have to be blue.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_09: I'll I'll I still have some convincing to do, so maybe I'll do maybe I'll convince her tomorrow.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well, I mean, she's gotta be at least do the face.
• 1:18:55
  SPEAKER_09: Well, you know, I did grow this out a little bit, so maybe I'll be better.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_05: I I give props to uh Frederick Douglass and not to uh Karl Marx.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_09: I understand completely agree.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know, I just always thought it was funny, Papa Smurf, you know.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_05: This is smurfin.
• 1:20:30
  SPEAKER_05: This is smurfin stupid.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_04: That's true.
• 1:20:36
  SPEAKER_04: It was a swear word.
• 1:20:37
  SPEAKER_01: It was a swear word, you know.
• 1:20:38
  SPEAKER_05: This is smurfin.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_05: What a smurfin podcast this is.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_05: You know, you don't know.
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_05: Is it good?
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_05: Is it bad?
• 1:20:46
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's smurfin.
• 1:20:48
  SPEAKER_05: It's smurfin, man.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_09: Now I can't decide whether I want smurf drops or Matthew Perry drops from friends.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_09: We probably should go with Matthew Perry.
• 1:20:57
  SPEAKER_05: Matthew Perry, but I mean, we're gonna call the episode Smurfin.
• 1:21:02
  SPEAKER_05: Smurfin Podcast.
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_05: Smurfin Podcast.
• 1:21:05
  SPEAKER_05: This is one Smurfin Podcast.
• 1:21:10
  SPEAKER_03: Episode 171.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_03: The Smurfin Podcast.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_03: In the book.
• 1:21:13
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, until next week.
• 1:21:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh happy Halloween, everybody.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_03: Have a happy Smurfin Halloween.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_09: Even though this is brought being dropped on Thursday.
• 1:21:21
  SPEAKER_09: That's okay.
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_05: That's right.
• 1:21:22
  SPEAKER_05: Enjoy your Halloween.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 1:21:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh don't eat too much candy.
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_05: Uh make sure you check it for razor blades and poison.
• 1:21:31
  SPEAKER_05: Because we're the not the band.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_09: Optimistic like that.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_05: Well, you know.
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_05: You know that's that's never actually happened.
• 1:21:38
  SPEAKER_09: I know.
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_05: You know, that just that was just like a it was one of those panics.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_05: You know.
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_09: Yep.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_05: So I don't know.
• 1:21:46
  SPEAKER_05: All right.
• 1:21:47
  SPEAKER_05: Who's got time to put razor blades into candy?
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_09: Right.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_09: Who is sadistic enough?
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_01: Who's I mean, who's uh Reese?
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know what good was Reese cups?
• 1:21:58
  SPEAKER_01: I hate kids here.
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_03: On that note, happy Halloween, everybody.
• 1:22:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'm a smurfing Halloween.
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm O'Brien.
• 1:22:08
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Smurfin Dark.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Bye, everybody.
• 1:22:20
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• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_09: They make music and press Kyle May, the Ridge Runner in Westfield Maine, and my cousin Larry.
• 1:22:29
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• 1:22:32
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• 1:22:34
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• 1:22:40
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, that ripped.