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Gordie Chiesa(@GChiesaOhMy) on NBA Midseason, Jazz Defensive Woes, Trade Deadline + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: If you're driving along, walking along, sitting at your desk
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  Speaker 1: and you're not moving your head a little bit, humming
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  Speaker 1: along at least wishing you knew every single word, but
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, doing that. You gotta at least
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  Speaker 1: be doing that. That music signifies one of my favorite
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  Speaker 1: times of the week. Gorda Chieza here in studio with us.
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  Speaker 1: We've got them for the next hour or so. Gordy, welcome,
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  Speaker 1: how are you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing fine, Sean, and you know, with the Redbone.
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  Speaker 2: For the young listeners out there, it was originally in
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four, so these guys around for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But for younger people like Porta Lass and type people,
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  Speaker 2: that was done in the Galaxy movie back in twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: The Guardian of the Galaxy, and that's where the song
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  Speaker 2: was and that's when everybody heard about it. And I say,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, however, Olsta's like me. That was back in
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  Speaker 2: seventy four when it first came out.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that movie brought kind of.
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  Speaker 2: The Guardians of the Galaxy movie back in twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: It brought the music of your earlier days back into
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  Speaker 1: the pop culture lexicon. For the young folks.
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  Speaker 2: It absolutely did, so we're grateful that the people know
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  Speaker 2: about it. And yeah, red Bone.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy, we were talking about I don't even know how
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  Speaker 1: we got on this topic, but you're the right person
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  Speaker 1: to discuss it with looking at the top defensive team
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  Speaker 1: always because the Utah Jazz again with a you know,
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  Speaker 1: giving up one hundred and forty points to an opponent,
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  Speaker 1: and goodness gracious, and I looked it up, went through
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  Speaker 1: the entire schedule this year. They have not held one
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  Speaker 1: opponent to fewer than one hundred points so far on
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  Speaker 1: the season, not one time, zero games. If the Jazz
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  Speaker 1: held someone under one hundred points defensively in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and I was like, all right, but
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  Speaker 1: how how good are the best defensive teams right now
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  Speaker 1: in the NBA. I'm sure you're already aware of this,
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  Speaker 1: but Oklahoma City is number one team in the league
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  Speaker 1: and they're still giving up one hundred and eight points. Again,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years ago, excuse me, ten years ago, the leading
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  Speaker 1: defensive team in the league was the San Antonio Spurs
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  Speaker 1: and they were giving up ninety three points a game.
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  Speaker 1: So we know that the game has changed pretty rapidly
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  Speaker 1: and pretty drastically over these years, and that is one
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  Speaker 1: of the most obvious places in which the game has changed.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that officiating in the league office and
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  Speaker 1: everyone's kind of like okay with it. They liked them
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  Speaker 1: more scoring, they like the All Star Game caliber defense
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  Speaker 1: that we're seeing in a lot of these contests. And
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about this some, Gordy, But how hard is
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  Speaker 1: it to adjust to as a coach, because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of coaches in today's NBA were certainly around ten years
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  Speaker 1: ago in some capacity or another. Plenty of them were
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  Speaker 1: either head coaches or lead assistant coaches in the league
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  Speaker 1: back then. And fifteen point swing is not something small
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  Speaker 1: to manage, I imagine.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all, and the pay some reasons why
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  Speaker 2: it happened was that the NBA took away the hand
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  Speaker 2: check rule and there's less more just generally speaking, physicality,
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  Speaker 2: so that you can't really put your body totally on
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  Speaker 2: a cut in to the basket. Next part about it
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  Speaker 2: is rest management is a factory where teams historically shown
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  Speaker 2: don't practice dramatically as much as ten years ago. So
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  Speaker 2: that thing called rest management where some players set out
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  Speaker 2: actually games and now teams as far as actually practicing
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  Speaker 2: hard and well are not there, so, which means that
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  Speaker 2: the teaching drills and the drills that form the winning
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  Speaker 2: habits aren't as prevalent and as consistent. So thus when
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  Speaker 2: you play in a game, the players really aren't technically
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  Speaker 2: wise and as far as technique wise, So the technical
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  Speaker 2: meaning wise, the group dynamics, and also the individual technique
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  Speaker 2: because sewn in basketball, just looking in the NFL, your
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  Speaker 2: hands in your feeting, your career technique is everything. When
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  Speaker 2: your d back in the NFL or safety, how to
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  Speaker 2: use your hands to the advantage. In basketball, you're trying
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  Speaker 2: to steal the ball, you're trying to level off the dribbler,
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  Speaker 2: how to move my feet and how to use my hands,
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  Speaker 2: and also when you're playing the low block, how to
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  Speaker 2: use my chest. We call that numbers on numbers, where
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  Speaker 2: you legally use your chest your upper body tosso strength
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  Speaker 2: to a contest position and to challenge the shot. So
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  Speaker 2: that's how it's not one thing, it's all changed. TV
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  Speaker 2: is involved in this equation as always because TV pays
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  Speaker 2: absolutely billions of dollars to broadcast NBA games, and they
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  Speaker 2: don't want games in the nineties where it's a slug fest. However,
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  Speaker 2: shown in the playoffs, it's a direct opposite where the
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  Speaker 2: game is played, like including the Super Bowl, the game
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  Speaker 2: is the defense wins championships, offense wins games. Now, those
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  Speaker 2: those things get blurred in the in the lexicon, they
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  Speaker 2: get burned. I get it, but you've got to play defense.
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  Speaker 2: So generally speaking, whoever's NBA champions this year has a
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  Speaker 2: defensive mindset. Yes, they have scoring people. Absolutely, they can
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  Speaker 2: have the MVP.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: If you know Thunder, if you're the say Detroit Pistons
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  Speaker 2: with Cake Cunningham, et cetera, Denvern Nuggets Phillip Blankson. But
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  Speaker 2: all those teams play defense. It's very rare. You're only
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  Speaker 2: one side of the ball offensive minded.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, the numbers will reflect that. If
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  Speaker 1: you go look up, and it's easy to do it.
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  Speaker 1: You can go look up the regular season stats, the
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  Speaker 1: defensive leaders in the regular season, and then that for
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  Speaker 1: that same year, you'll pull up the postseason stats and
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  Speaker 1: the numbers tell you, oh, look, they started caring about
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  Speaker 1: playing defense here.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting, and it's showing it to that three point shooting.
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  Speaker 2: So usually speaking, now there's always one outlier so you're
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  Speaker 2: driving right now, I fifteen. Don't be screaming the car
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  Speaker 2: yelling Gordy, what are you talking about? This guy scored this,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, I understand it. But three points shooting.
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  Speaker 2: As far as in the playoffs, the defense schematically is
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  Speaker 2: so in tuned that they're not gonna let you shoot
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  Speaker 2: rainbow threes in the corner. They're going to challenge that
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  Speaker 2: corner shot by one technically by by not leaving that
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  Speaker 2: knockdown shooter or three, giving only stunt help, which recall
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  Speaker 2: you stunt at the dribbler on the ball side and
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  Speaker 2: you go back to the corner and run that knockdown
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  Speaker 2: shooter or three point line. And Jazz basketball yester year
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  Speaker 2: pitcher Joe ingles that guy had a great shot in
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  Speaker 2: that corner, that rainbow arc three left handed south poor.
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  Speaker 2: It always went in in playoff games. They never left
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  Speaker 2: Joe in the corner, so it became a Donovan Mitchell,
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  Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert pick and roll game, and eventually that they
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  Speaker 2: couldn't finish in some of those games. Also yester year,
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  Speaker 2: meaning recently Bandanovitch again another knockdown shooter. They never left him,
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  Speaker 2: So it's showing its schematically, you're able to dig in
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  Speaker 2: and take away a team's non strength, and then you've
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  Speaker 2: got to be able to count that offensively by one
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  Speaker 2: moving the players around. The worst you do ever shown
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  Speaker 2: when I coached Ray Allen probably the world's second greatest
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  Speaker 2: ever perimeter shooter behind Steph Curry, and number three could
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  Speaker 2: be underrated. Mark Price could be. Oh, Mark Price, absolutely,
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  Speaker 2: Mark Price, Hey Mark, we love your dog all right
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  Speaker 2: because he never got he's such a great shooter. He
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  Speaker 2: retired around He retired after a knee surgery. He had
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  Speaker 2: a brilliant creer. I get it, so is Klay Thompson.
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  Speaker 2: So in playoffs, what you want to do with Ray
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  Speaker 2: Allen type people Steph Curry type people, You don't want
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  Speaker 2: to stick him in the corner. You've got to move
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  Speaker 2: them around with with We call it false action, where
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  Speaker 2: there's something going one side the floor and then there's
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  Speaker 2: some sort of screening action opposite to free up the shooter.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why Steph Curry, including last night's game the
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  Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, I called him Sewan backscreen junkies. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say Sean, I didn't say backstreet boys. I
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  Speaker 2: said backstreet junkies. In case you're wondering, that's when you
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  Speaker 2: set backscreens as the world's greatest shooter to free yourself
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  Speaker 2: up because it's easy to guard you if you're stationary.
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  Speaker 2: A body in motion stays in motion, Sean. A body
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  Speaker 2: of a body in rest stays the rest. You know,
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  Speaker 2: said that, Sean Newton. That's exactly right, Sean. I knew
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  Speaker 2: Sean that your sixth grade teacher taught you well. I
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  Speaker 2: could tell I'm not sure about port a laws in
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  Speaker 2: sixth grade teacher or my teacher was a nun back
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  Speaker 2: in sixth grade one thousand years ago, where they forced
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  Speaker 2: you to learn that premise.
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  Speaker 1: You get that, you get that answer wrong, rap on
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  Speaker 1: the knuckles with the ruler.
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  Speaker 2: You're being kind worse than that. Who knows. Thank god
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  Speaker 2: it was only capital punishment.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about last night's game, Gordon. I
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  Speaker 1: know you were there with your setup, with your your
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  Speaker 1: notes in front of you and watching this this jazz
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  Speaker 1: team try to take on a warrior squad that may
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  Speaker 1: or may not be We'll get to this may or
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  Speaker 1: may not be in the market for the services of
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  Speaker 1: one Greek freakyantist. I'm Hitton koompo, We'll get there. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But twenty four the final score Steph Curry with twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven points. He hit only four of his ten three
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  Speaker 1: point I say only facetiously. Uh. Ace Bailey was tied
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  Speaker 1: with Kante George fer Jazz starter lead. They both had
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  Speaker 1: nineteen points. Bryce Sensiba outscored any of the starters. He
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  Speaker 1: came off the bench for twenty two, but ultimately a
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  Speaker 1: losing effort for the Jazz.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and with that said that, the Jazz allowed twenty
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  Speaker 2: three made threes at Halften was fifteen and it sounds
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  Speaker 2: really in a weird way. Steph Curry only played average.
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  Speaker 2: I know he scored twenty seven points, but it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really dynamic. That that shows how great he is. Where
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven wasn't dynamic, however, everyone else was. The Warriors
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  Speaker 2: had eight guys in double figures eight and so it
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  Speaker 2: was a magnificent how they played. Now, guess a second,
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  Speaker 2: let's give it a kudos to Ace Bally aces really
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  Speaker 2: coming along last night's game. Sean's alluding to nineteen points.
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  Speaker 2: He gets seven boys. Let's not forget Shawn. He turns
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  Speaker 2: twenty on August sixth of this year. Twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: so he's doing it as a nineteen year old guy
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  Speaker 2: this year for the month of January, so January twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six, which ends tomorrow, thirty days in January, I remember, right,
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  Speaker 2: all right. Ace is averaging this month thirteen point nine
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  Speaker 2: points per game, forty nine point two from the field,
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  Speaker 2: four point one rebounds in twenty seven point nine minutes.
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  Speaker 2: So he's absolutely trending up. And as the fifth pick
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  Speaker 2: of the draft the Jazz, that pick was absolutely wonderful
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  Speaker 2: because Pitcherham in a playoff game showing five years from
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  Speaker 2: now with that guy, with his talent and now with
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  Speaker 2: more experience each passing year, he's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: twenty point scorer because one is talent and he can shoot,
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  Speaker 2: and also he's learning how to play the NBA game,
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  Speaker 2: and it seems to me he's very receptive to coaching.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a last night's game. That was part
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  Speaker 2: of what I took away from it. Moses Moody from
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  Speaker 2: the from the Golden State Warriors, He's vastly underrated and
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  Speaker 2: the way he plays. Brandon Pajinski is vastly underrated. The
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  Speaker 2: Anthony Melton vastly underrated g A Santo. The Brazilian guys underrated.
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  Speaker 2: Will Richard, who was the was the teammate of Walter
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  Speaker 2: Clayton with Florida Gates National Champions last year, was also
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  Speaker 2: very vastly underrated. So they have a bunch of guys
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  Speaker 2: that are i'll call him two guards, small forwards and
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  Speaker 2: stretched forwards that really compliment everybody. Jonathan kaminga Sewan did
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  Speaker 2: they trade him? He's a part of a trade. He
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  Speaker 2: wants out badly. We're gonna know so next Thursday for
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  Speaker 2: the listeners, that's the trading deadline, and they all start
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  Speaker 2: probably on Monday morning, showing where everybody's more serious. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: it's just all conjecture.
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  Speaker 1: and we were before the break, we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: Jazz just played the Golden State Warriors. The Golden State
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  Speaker 1: Warriors victorious in that one, and they're looking at potentially
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  Speaker 1: a little roster reconstruction as the trade deadline approaches. Jonathan
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  Speaker 1: Kaminga did not play against the Utah Jazz. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna play before he is traded somewhere by
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  Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. He has asked out. They've had
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  Speaker 1: a hard time with him for the last couple of
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  Speaker 1: years and it seems like that relationship is heading towards
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  Speaker 1: its termination. And in Gordy, that brought up for me
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  Speaker 1: the question I was asking before we went to break,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to give you a chance to answer
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  Speaker 1: it now. Jonathan Kaminga has not found a harmonious relationship
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  Speaker 1: in San Francisco. And I know this is normal in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA. I know that fit matters and all that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I'm curious as to how the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the league perceives it. When you're like, I want
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  Speaker 1: out of the Golden State Warriors, which is an organization
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  Speaker 1: that for the last decade now plus has been kind
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  Speaker 1: of the gold standard for team chemistry, for culture, for
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  Speaker 1: we can bring anybody here and they're gonna fit in
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna work it around. I mean, they've coexisted
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  Speaker 1: with Draymond Green and even Jimmy Butler has fit in
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  Speaker 1: well there after being a malcontent other places. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're asking out of Golden State and that franchise, how
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  Speaker 1: does the NBA treat.
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  Speaker 2: It with hesitation? However, that most of the teams would
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  Speaker 2: be very guarded of taking him on because of his
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  Speaker 2: his contract really relatively tame. It's up this year, but
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  Speaker 2: it just takes one to two or three teams that
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  Speaker 2: really are more I call it rogan radical that they
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  Speaker 2: think they can rehab somebody as far as with our team,
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  Speaker 2: he'll play much better and he's a better fit for us,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. Philip Blanks and how they rationalize it at
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  Speaker 2: the personal meetings. So they're going to try to trade
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  Speaker 2: him to see if they can get Usually when you trade,
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  Speaker 2: most times now when you trade and the deadline, you
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  Speaker 2: don't get equal value. But you want to move him
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  Speaker 2: on or acquire him to get him ready for the
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  Speaker 2: following season. Now with comminga right now, besides not playing,
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  Speaker 2: he's actually hurt, Sean, he's got a left knee a
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  Speaker 2: bone bruce. But that that will not affect any team
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  Speaker 2: as far as it's not structurally. It's more of conclusion.
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  Speaker 2: So they'll they'll they'll try to move them on. The
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  Speaker 2: question is when his contract is up. This year, he
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  Speaker 2: makes twenty two point five million in UH in NBA terms.
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  Speaker 2: That's why where he should be as far as his
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  Speaker 2: talent level next year. It's a team option. So whoever it's,
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  Speaker 2: whoever there's trade for him, they're saying philosophically that we
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  Speaker 2: can resign him for a longer term contract come July
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  Speaker 2: first now, so they're gonna try to They're gonna try
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  Speaker 2: to move them on. If they can't, then they'll they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna do over again the week before week during the
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  Speaker 2: NBA Draft the third week of June historically, So it's
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  Speaker 2: it's really it's really fascinating as far as what teams
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  Speaker 2: are trying to do. Generally speaking, Sewan that the thirty
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  Speaker 2: NBA teams, twenty teams. Everyone's talking all thirty, but only
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  Speaker 2: only ten. Teams are really serious about trading now. Part
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  Speaker 2: of that some some teams trade players and some teams
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  Speaker 2: only trade contracts. It's a big difference between a player
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  Speaker 2: and a contract, where I'll trade you this bad contract.
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  Speaker 2: They get ready to move on this guy. You trade
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  Speaker 2: me your team's bad contract, and then we'll call it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll call it even and in July first we'll get
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  Speaker 2: a do over with each each team's new money to
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  Speaker 2: get more players here that we want to have a
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  Speaker 2: better fit.
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  Speaker 1: Steven Adams had season ending surgery on his ankle. How
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  Speaker 1: big a loss is that right now for the Houston Rockets.
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  Speaker 2: Huge And the Rockets give them a lot of credit.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys they're thirty one and sixteen. I'm pushing me
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight and seventeen. Part of me the fourth seed
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  Speaker 2: in the Rockets are right now in the West, and
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  Speaker 2: so let's not forget that they're they're playing with they're
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  Speaker 2: playing also with so many other guys that are injured
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  Speaker 2: as far as their lineup, meaning Freddie van Fleet, who's
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  Speaker 2: a one time All Star, is a big part of
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  Speaker 2: their group right now. So now Steven Adams is out
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  Speaker 2: with the surgery on his ankle and now. So now
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  Speaker 2: the question is they have an all star player, a
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  Speaker 2: young guy, also tremendous, he's a poor man's Nikolai Jokic,
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  Speaker 2: and alf N Chagoon. So now Clint Capella, who they've
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  Speaker 2: thought about possibly trading him because other teams want him
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  Speaker 2: now will never happen. Now, so now there are two centers.
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  Speaker 2: Will be Chagoon, who's a big man passer, can score
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  Speaker 2: the ball inside, make outside shots and makes teammates better.
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  Speaker 2: And Clint Cappella is a rimp protector. And then let's
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  Speaker 2: not forget So now, just say one of those guys
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  Speaker 2: get hurt between now and the playoffs start. That means
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  Speaker 2: that Jeff Green, former jazz man, would suddenly play at
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  Speaker 2: age thirty nine. He'll turn here, he'llill turn, he'll turn
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  Speaker 2: forty on August twenty eighth. Suddenly he's in a playoff game,
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  Speaker 2: Uncle Jeff, that's how fragile. Hey, our team is great,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna be great. We're gonna rock them in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really, And so when someone gets hurt, everything changes,
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  Speaker 2: or a guy doesn't play. Like most people thought that Jeff
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  Speaker 2: Green retired three years ago, he might be in a
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  Speaker 2: playoff game and make a rainbow jump shot Ernest Salary
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  Speaker 2: in one in one game.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Ken Clint Capella helped the Rockets maintain being the best
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: rebounding team in the NBA. Is he Is he good
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: enough at that portion of the game that they can
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: maintain their status there even without Adams in the lineup.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: No, the answer is no, he's not. However, so with
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that said, they have to rebound by committee, so now
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: everyone has to be dogging about it a class crashing
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: the offensive glass and also boxing out as far as
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: in rebounding, and so you know, he does not. He's
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: more of a shot blocker, rim runner, a high lob
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: high lob acrobatic plays in the lane. So that's again
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: every team. There's no team that's perfect, So every team
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: has certain things that they don't do well. Smart coaching
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and even better playing is that you'll hide some of
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: those non strengths. But in the playoffs, though, that's when
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: you get exposed. Now, in playoff basketball, most times the
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: rotation goes from a eleven players to now eight and
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: a half, and that's when your better players have to
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: be two way players where they've got to guard their
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: position in playoff games, and that's why there's so many
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: there's so many players that really are ultra talented, but
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: they fall short in the players because they don't dig
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: in defensively, or they can't make an outside shot. Even
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: in the regular season the defensive minded, which is commendable,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: but now they're actually make knockdown jump shots in the
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter where the defense doesn't rotate them. They have
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: wide open threes. The worst thing showing you could ever
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: do in an NBA game is the ball goes swing, swing, swing,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: pass to an open three point shot and the shots miss.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: That's last night, Draymond Green, he goes ugly oh for
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: six from threes. He was wide open, but they kept
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: on passing both to them because why because of his
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: status and because there's Steph Curry's brilliance. But in the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: playoff game, oh for six, get this guy out of here.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll kill you when you keep launching them up
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and there's nothing to show for It's but teams, especially
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the Words, they're willing to live or die by that
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: three point shot.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: That's their DNA and that's why they're again. They have
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the world's greatest shooter of doing it, and he used
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: to have Klay Thompson, and so they still they shoot threes.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But it's I mentioned earlier, it's those other guys, those
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: guys that know we never talked about wait, not that often. Pajenski,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you know, he makes threes, but he has a great
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: drive game. Gary Payton even played last night. He's defensive minder.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Moses Moody is a knockdown shooter, but he does guard.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Buddy Heel on the team off the bench last night
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: made four to five from threes. Melton, I mean the
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Anthony Melton gets the ball and he can drive the
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: ball to the basket. Now, will Richard, the young the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: young guy from the Florida Gatis. He's a knockdown shooter,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: also defensive minded. So they've done a good job with
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: their with their late picks right now, and that's why
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: they're still competitive without Jimmy Butler and the malcontent John
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Dikaminga shown also with the Warriors. That's up again, James Weissman,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: if the world was perfect, he was the second pick
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: of the draft when Clay Thompson got hurt and stuff
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: got hurt. Also, they picked number two and it didn't
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: work out. So Pitch, you're having the second pick and
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: that big guy worked out, they'd be right there, still
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: right there, Christe's Brilliants.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Gordy Chase is still hanging out with us here in
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: our Broadway studios on the Sean O'Connell show. My dog
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Rocky also hanging out with us here, just sleeping under
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: the broadcast desk. He's really adopted this as his home base.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I enjoy it quite a bit. After the chaos of
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: my dog and Spence's dog being in the studio at
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the same time yesterday and Spence opening that door and
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: letting him run around the office, we will prevent that
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: from happening at least another time. All right, Gordy, So
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: trade deadline approaching, We've been talking about it, We'll continue
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. We'll then talk about the fallout
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: from whatever moves happened. But it seems like the largest
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: domino that will potentially fall is the Greek Frank Gianna
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Sante Contempo is preparing for an exit from a Milwaukee
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Bucks franchise where he has been a model citizen, a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: great member of that community. Obviously brought them a championship
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: and a league MVP. I mean, this is an unbelievable
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: era of Milwaukee basketball that appears like it might be
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: coming to an end. Where's he going to be?
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be possibly Miami interesting possibly which
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: involves the entyly Herro and other people involved in plus
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: draft picks. Possibly Nikobachus call Anthony Towns possibly moving on
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: from him. And there'll be one other surprises as far
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: as teams, but those are the two that would make
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: sense as far as where they would have to trade, uh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: relatively not star players, but really good players. So example,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors, people reporting that they were again
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the Bucks. Once they trade Giannis, they're gonna they're starting over.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: If they don't, if they even with co Anthony Towns,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: so they want to build through the draft. Now they
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: had the one, they had the one window for three
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: four years where they had success. They tried them. They
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: tried Dame Lillard. It didn't work out now because the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Dame could be got hurt, and so now they're they're
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: starting over without even saying it. So the Golden State Warriors,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: they would love to have Giannis and their team to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: go forward. So which means that Jimmy Butler or if
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that surgery, they try to move him and other people
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: plus first round picks involved right now, So we'll we
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: will know come uh show. We'll be on the air,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: you know, next Thursday, and so we'll we'll know more
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: about what's gonna happen right now. It all starts with
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: intensity on Monday morning. That's what it really gets. It
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: really gets going as far as everybody.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I saw a mock trade that was something like kaminga
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and four first round picks and what and then you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: would get Giannis and Kyle Kuzma back do we see
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the Kuzma is part of a trade piece?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: You think, yes, you to be part of it also,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: right exactly, because there's enough talent that people want them
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: on their team, but the Bucks aren't winning. So Kaminga,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, all those guys who said the Warrior's point
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: of view that they're all they're all being involved. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: everyone wants to try to get a draft capital because
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: draft capital rules as far as we want a future
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: first round pick and or picks. And that's when it
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: comes very very interesting with teams, how how it all
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: plays out with them. And so again, if you if
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: you're a losing team and you're you're not winning or
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: you're underperforming, you want to try. You want to try
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: to get rid of some of your players so that
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: so that you can build through the draft. As far
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: as playing it, I'll give you an example, like remember
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: this thing about last season. Remember last season with the
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Jazz in the trading deadline. People forget what happened. The
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Jazz are quite Jellen Hood Tapino and they cut him
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: right away. The Jazz are quite also Mobomba and PJ. Tucker,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: and they cut him right away. And then the Jazz
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: are quiet. They acquired a two twenty five second round
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: draft pick, which they traded again two twenty five second
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: round draft pick and a two thirty second round draft pick,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: and so they also acquired a Kenyon Martin. So the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Jazz will be in played. As far as trying to
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: help a team make a three way trade, Jazz have
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: some assets and they want to get some assets back
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: right now. So don't be surprised if the Jazz makes
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: some minor moves even with some of their players, because
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: everybody wants. Possibly George n Yang. I know he hasn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: played right now, but he's out there shooting like there.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He could help a playoff team. As far as being
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: a knockdown shooter coming off the bench right now, So
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Kyle Anderson could help a team, So the Jazz could
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: make some minor trades to try to help a team
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: get a bigger move for those two other franchises, will
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: they just keep acquiring draft capitol.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: While the Jazz are thinking about, like you said, these
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: minor moves. And George Yang, I think is a good
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: example of what we're talking about here. He's as valuable,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: maybe more valuable for what he is in the locker
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: room and in practice than what he is on the floor,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: certainly right now because he hasn't played. But this is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the second youngest team in the league, the Utah Jazz.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: And veteran leadership, veteran experience, veteran anything. Is that a
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: premium in organizations like that? Is is the price for
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: a George Nyang more expensive relatively because he is a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: veteran guy that does benefit this franchise with that experience,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: or because you have you know, Lowry's somewhat of a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: veteran now, but you have like a Kevin Love or
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: you have enough that can fill that gap if George
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yang is gone that you don't have to treat it
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: that way, correct.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if George was traded out of strength to try
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to try to get acquire more draft capital, that Kevin Love,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: if he still remains here, would be the main guy
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: as far as him and Larry Markin. And Larry Markin
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: is a quiet personality and that's good, but he has
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: a loud game which is really positive. So that guy
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: is a tremendous player. Larry Marketing. We really the leaders
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: should be Cante George because he has the ball often
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: in the game, and he's a solid player, and that
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: he would eventually he should be the team leader by
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: his skills and by being vocal. Also, let's not forget
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that Steve high Loop last one value too, because again
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: he's a veteran. Especially if someone gets hurt between Seawan
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: between now and next Thursday, there's some injury, w's to
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: off the bench performer and it's suddenly the things change
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: because that guy's out for the season, and now let's
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: trade for so and so.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: How many times Gordon, your many seasons in and around
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: the NBA did you have you know you're you're working
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: with the front office, in a front office, in a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: in a coaching office where you kind of think you
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: have the lay of the land in your franchise. All Right,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: we've got you know, this draft piece, We've got this
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: guy who we know is really good, and maybe we're
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: gonna have to be active when the trade deadline comes
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: this year because uh, you know, we're missing this or
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: we need that. But then those expectations don't end up
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: being the case once you start to play. I asked
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: this question because Kyante George has altered the outlook for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: this franchise in some ways. Kiante George is now playing
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a role and playing in a way that a lot
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of people never expected that he would. And even the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: people that expected he might be able to do that
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: probably didn't think he was going to flip the switch
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: he has here in the twenty five twenty twenty six season.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So in a good way, it alters the path of
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: your roster, and it alters the timeline of this rebuild
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and things like that. How many times have you been
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: on a staff where or been in an organization or
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that's how it plays out? Well, that's what, like, how
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: common is this.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Rarely? It's really really it's very very rarely common. With
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the Count de George, to his credits, his third year
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and he has emerged so again, as always, just like
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: in real life, at what eight does the person mature?
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: Is it? Is it twenty two, is it twenty seven,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: is it thirty seven? Or is it never? And that's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: what happened. He's maturing right now. I'm sure both on
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: and off the court. He's making really great decisions. Let'speak
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: on the court and that he's really improved, and that
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: changes the Jazz calculus as far as they might not
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: need that position as much as they might have thought,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: as far as in the meetings and as always, they're
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: always trying to acquire better depth. And that's why it's
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: so important player development at every level. Can you fast
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: accelerate a player's skill set and can the experience kick
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: in at what point? And so much is showing is
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: based on also your teammates, So your teammates help you
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: play better. So who's next to you on the court,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Who is the guy sitting for you that that high
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: pick and roll screen that gives count a George a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: chance to catching fire? And just think about the Jazz
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the way of destruction right now, useuf Nurkice. I know
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: he's had that triple double tool last night. But he's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: also a very valuable screener. So with that big body
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and that we call why screening action comes flying off
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Lowry Market and Indo account a George. That is very
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: important part of why those guys are scoring a lot
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: more and with more efficiency because of the screening game.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Houston Rockets meant for about Steven Adams, one of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: best screeners in the NBA. So suddenly all those guys
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: with the Rockets when they get that ball, because if
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Steven Aam says that almost like that that New Zealand
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Rocker Gibraltar screen where it's almost impossible, and just yesteryear,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: that was Mark Eaton. It's part of John, part of
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: John Stockton's brilliance, which is which is self by himself,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: however he was aided by his teammates, including Mark Eaton.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: So pitch you right now, Mark Eaton setting a screen
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: at seven to four thurget and five pounds a legal screen,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and you're action the defense to try and navigate over
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: around that screening action, and that gives the dribbler or
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the cutter daylight. That split second of getting daylight in
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: a game makes you makes the game slow down for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you to make a better decision and be more efficient,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: whether it's a jump shot, whether it's a rim strike,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: or whether it's who are shooting over the top of
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a three point shot. So screening is absolutely important, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: that's why cant de George. To his credit, he's getting
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: some good screens from his floormates and that's why he's
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: able to really accelerate his growth. And from a franchise
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: point of view now showing the contract is relatively teamed
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: right now, and I'm sure that he has will give
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: him the extension when it time comes up.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Lebron James got emotional the Cleveland Cavaliers played a little
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: tribute video for him. Calves ended up smashing the Lakers
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: in that game one twenty nine to ninety nine. And
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of people think this is
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the last time Lebron James is gonna play in Cleveland,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: that maybe this is the final year of his career,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. We saw the emotion, but Lebron
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: is prone to be effusive, emotional, demonstrative at times. What
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: did you make of that reaction to his tribute video?
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I think it was sincere. You know, he's born in Akron, Ohio.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: He's homegrown.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: The Caves is his childhood team and he had some
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: great moments there and he led them to their only
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: championship in the twenty sixteen and I think it was
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: it was real. And like all players, especially Lebron type,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: it's coming to the end. And is the end this
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: year or the following season. Let's say, let's give you the
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: math right now. Right now, he's forty one years young,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: and to have this twenty third season in the NBA,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: to play that long and that well is remarkable, And
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that's what his mind is going through as he sees himself.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: You know, twenty years ago when he's playing for the
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Cavs as a very young person and now he's an
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: elder statesman.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: From the Lakers point of view is that Lebron Lebron's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: contract is fifty two point six million this year and
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: his contract is up so so far, there's been very
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: little discussion about him resigning him. Now we'll see how
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: it plays out. We all know his agent, Rich Paul
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: will Clutch Sports. He's gonna try to get the best
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: situation for Lebron if he decides to play.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Should we be taking the lack of news about an
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: extension as an impending retirement, as the Lakers not interested
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: in having a player of his age and contribution be
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: part of their organization moving forward. Now that they've got
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: some young talent and it's Lucas team now and Reeves
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: has proved to be really good, how should we read
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: the tea leaves of Lebron and the Lakers not being
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: publicly in talks of extending.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Him, that the Lakers probably are going to move on
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: from him. Probably, yeah, I remember with Lebron, you have
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to pay Austin Reeves, and deservingly so because he's part
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: of the future. So just from the narrative, probably Austin
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Reeves is going to make starting roughly forty million dolls
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: will say my math just forty million dollars times of
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: four or five years, Okay, So, and the Lakers have
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of guys and one year contracts, So the
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Lakers could have one hundred million dollars next summer. Forty
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: million will go to Austin Reeves. The other sixty million
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: they can try to get the guys that they need
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: a younger version to help them remain relative in the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: in the very very tough West. Remember LA Lakers. There
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: are there are franchise that's based on star power. So
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: think about the Lakers, Elgind Baylor, Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Magic Johnson, James Worthy, Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Lebron, James, Luca Dantage.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: So they do star power better than anybody else in
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the NBA. And sometimes when there's things a little bit
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: wayward being in LA. In Hollywood, Hollywood does drama very well.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: It's perfectly normal and LA to have drama. It's no
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: big deal, whether you whether the movie industry, or whether
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: it's the NFL, whether it's Major League Baseball with the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: with the Dodgers, it's Uh, it's irrelevant that drama is
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: all part of being in Hollywood. Uh.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Luca turned his ankle because of that. Well, maybe I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: shouldn't say because of it. To me, it seems like
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: because of that elevated court that the Cavs have. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: how how are we playing with this in modern NBA basketball?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: No, you're exactly right for the Jones, alluding to that
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: the court, the court is slightly above where the the
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: coach's seats are with the players seats are, so the
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  Speaker 2: seats for the where the players and coaches and training
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  Speaker 2: where they sit and step down. That's exactly right. And Sean,
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  Speaker 2: when I coached for for twenty years there, I was
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  Speaker 2: very conscious of that that please don't slip like a
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  Speaker 2: schmuck like me. Don't slip on the thing and rip
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  Speaker 2: my achilles because uh I yelled at uh. I was
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: yelling out the team defense to uh Adam Keifer where
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: to get back in recovery and to stop the ball,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and that's what happened. So Lucas slipped and he got
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  Speaker 2: slightly injured, which shows you that the But I know
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  Speaker 2: the NBA they I'm sure they wanted to address that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: But forever reason has it come to fruition right now,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: so it's elevated, Sean. I thought that every field should
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: be the same, and it left in baseball, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Wrigley feel part of the outfield of Fenway Park, but
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: as far as the playing service, it should be all universal.
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  Speaker 1: So my understanding is, and I, like probably everyone else
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  Speaker 1: in America, was looking this up. After you see someone
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  Speaker 1: of Luca's prominence get hurt because of that, you look at, Okay,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: why is it like that? It wasn't always like that.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Why is it like that. It's like that because of NHL,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: not NHL ice, AHL ice underneath the floor. Now, if
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Ryan Smith told me that he had to do this
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  Speaker 1: with the Utah Jazz floor to accommodate the Mammoth about, Oh,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that's a tough all right. I get it. Your NHL
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: team's bringing in just as much as your NBA team
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: right now, and your NHL team is actually a little
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: bit further along in their development. So like, if you
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  Speaker 1: have to do something that's not great on the NBA
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  Speaker 1: side to accommodate the NHL, all right, I'll listen to that.
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  Speaker 1: We're not talking about an NHL team. We're talking about
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the Cleveland Monsters of the American Hockey League. This is
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: minor league hockey. This is triple A stuff here, and
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you're potentially hurting Luka Doncic to accommodate that that. It
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: feels like, just from a legal financial business standpoint, it
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: makes zero sense.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're going to readjust that right now, as
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: far as UH look at it differently. After this injury, also,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the Cavalists players oos that could have been Lebron James
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: getting hurt When you play for the Caps all those
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: times Okari Irving and so your your home team's also
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: at Ris As far as doing that, also.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: We've seen this year how quickly and how effectively arena
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: changes can happen. You Can's not something you can fix
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  Speaker 1: today right now during this twenty twenty five twenty twenty
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: sixth season, but it could absolutely not be an issue
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: You could get it fixed in a single off season,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt very much. So the question is will they.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Let's let's let's stay tuned and see if what plays out.
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  Speaker 1: What's your list today, Gordon?
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: My list today as All Star Weekend is heading very
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: soon in California, meaning LA on February thirteenth, I'm sorry,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: February ex give me yeah, February thirteenth and Friday and Sunday,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: February fifteenth. I was off for a second. I was
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: poison looking at my looking at January right now. So
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: this list today is the last ten years of All
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Star Weekend three point contest winners, Yes, three point contest winners,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: as the Dunk Contest has lost some of its glamor.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: The last will say twenty years, even though sometimes it
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: is exciting, but generally speaking that people are saying the
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: best dunkers aren't in it. The three point shooting contest
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is a whole different thing, all right. So here's the
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: last ten years. The winner twenty sixteen, Klay Thompson with
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the Warriors. It was done in Toronto. Twenty seventeen. Eric
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Gordon of the Rockets was done in New Orleans twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 2: Devin Booker of the Suns, that was in La twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Harris of the Nets, that was in Charlotte, North
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Carolina twenty twenty. He played Last Night versus the Jazz
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Buddy Heel of the Kings. That was in Chicago twenty
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: twenty one. Yes, Steph Curry of the Warriors did it
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta twenty twenty two. Interesting, this guy is a
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: big guy seven footer. Yes, call Anthony Towns of that time.
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  Speaker 2: The Timberwolves won it in Cleveland twenty twenty three. We
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: restayed great, the pride of Ouden, Utah, the pride of Oakland, California.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Dame Lillard of the Trailblazers did it here in Salt
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Lake City in twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four Dame again,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: this time with the Bucks and Indianapolis was the winner.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And last year's winner from the Mammy Heat was a
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Tyler Herro and that game was done in San Francisco. Quickly,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: What about the economics of it? Did you know, Sean,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: that the winner of the three point Shooting Contest makes
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars, the runner up makes forty thousand, in
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: the third place finisher makes twenty five thousand historically? What
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: about in jazz basketball? Jeff Hornisack was a two time
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: winner of the three point Shooting Contest in nineteen ninety
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: eight and also in two thousand. But remember in nineteen
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: ninety nine there was no All Star Game because of
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: the lockout for the owners and players. They were in
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a labor dispute battle, So Jeff Hornsack might have won
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: three in a row. Speaking of three in a row,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Larry Bird and Craig Hodges are the only people that
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: ever won three contests as far as three point shooting.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Larry Bird did it the first year of the contest
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty six, which is really forty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty seven and nineteen eighty eight and Craig Hodges
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: of the Bulls did it in nineteen ninety, nineteen ninety one,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two. My last point about this, which
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: is really so interesting, The question is what is what
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: is the most ever made three point shots in the
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: contest shown? What do you think the most ever consecutive
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: three point shots made?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Porter?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: What do you think consecutive?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Thirteen? All right? Thirteen? Porter? What do you think? Eight? Eight?
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm glad. I'm glad you guys, oh don't work
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: for NASA as far as being scientists and rock and
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: ingineered because instead of going to Pluto, we're going to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Mars right now. Yes, the answer is by Craig Hodges.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: He made nineteen straight three point shots in nineteen ninety one,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: nineteen in a row.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, just I want to be clear prices right, rules.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I won the showcase showdown. I was closer with my thirteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, So I'm glad you guys don't work for NASA.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I thank Porter, thank you for working for working for
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: ESPN radio seven hundred. He hearing's here in very fashionable
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Salt Lake City.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: So HORNI sak with the only jazz man who won
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: a three point content.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Larry Markin was in it, but did not advance
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: as far as as far as making either one, two
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: or three. It's just really it's a skill. It's a
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: skill as far as making and also the pressure of
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: making those shots. You know, you're a knockdown shooter, but
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: it's different in the game and you've got to have
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: perfect form to make those shots. And Jeff Hornisack one
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: of the all time great shooters, and last night Steph
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Curry put on just made so so many great shots.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Show them before the game. Steph made back to back
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: half court shots before the game.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: You know it's a little warm up routine, shoots from
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: the tunnel and all that stuff. Exactly does he do
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that on the road or only at home?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: No, both places home and away. So it's legendary. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you know it's packed. There's probably a thousand fans that
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: are courtside with the cameras taking him. He made back
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: to back half court shots.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Wow, the guy's crazy, an absolute joy to watch. Yes,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: he is the only thing I wish. I wish that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: everyone right, because everyone wanted to be Steph Curry. I
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: would that people were better at realizing they're not Steph
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Curry because everyone thinks they can be. They pull up,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: they shoot like he does. They pull they shoot when
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: their feet aren't set, when they're moving away from the basket,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: thinking that they can have the same kind of success
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: that he does. I know he's not deliberately setting a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: bad example, but his greatness has set a bad example
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people very much.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: So Show's alluding to that every level, whether it's great
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: school basketball, high school basketball, junior college Division one two, three,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: et cetera, or big bad NBA, is that often people
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: are misguided as far as their shooting mentality, where I'll
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: just keep shooting until I make it, and that that's
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: commendable if you did that in shooting drills, but your
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: teammates are saying, what is up with my guy right now?
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Oh my girl? As far as keep firing three point shots?
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: So sometimes you can, you can. You can shoot recklessly
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and hurt your team to the extreme to get yourself going.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Long time ago showing was when that's when John Stalks
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: in Game six of the NBA Finals, shot two for
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: eighteen in the game. Now, all players have bad shooting nights,
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: but he went oh for eleven and the Rockets beat
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: the Knickerbockers, and that was the night of the O. J.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Simpsons Chase sewan on a Friday night, and that that
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: made the Rockets win their first championship. Two for eighteen,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: oh for eleven from threes.
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