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- 1:50Justin Alan Hayes: So this episode here has been looking forward to this, because I like to learn.
- 1:59Justin Alan Hayes: I like to learn I said that twice but really just like to learn and hear about kind of new methods, new ways of doing things, and that's what this episode is going to be about.
- 2:16Justin Alan Hayes: So we're bringing back guests we've had on several times, guests we've had on several times, and this episode, our guest, david Solomon, is going to talk about speed writing, and so there's, as we're finding with a lot of the creators that we're speaking with, everybody kind of has their, maybe their own method to their madness, maybe their own, their own method to their madness, and one of the things that david is good at not just the, the writing uh, but the uh, the speed in which he is able to do that uh and and still turn out quality work um, I'm taken back to growing up and can't remember if it was first, second grade, but we used to have these timed math tests or math quizzes and we would be getting scored not only based on how many questions we got right versus how many we got wrong, but also the time.
- 3:25Justin Alan Hayes: And that's probably the first time I can cognitively remember how time was brought into kind of my life and remember trying to not only get the highest score I could.
- 3:45Justin Alan Hayes: But once that kind of stopwatch went off, you turned over the.
- 3:50Justin Alan Hayes: You know the quiz I mean it might have been five, five, looking back, five easy, you know addition, multiplication, division.
- 3:59Justin Alan Hayes: Have you answers or questions to answer?
- 4:04Justin Alan Hayes: But then also the time, uh, and looking back, you know everybody does things different, differently.
- 4:11Justin Alan Hayes: Some, uh, some people takes a little bit longer, some people little little shorter to to do that work.
- 4:21Justin Alan Hayes: So, talking to David of this episode, about speed writing and the, obviously the quality of the work, because that's important for readers, for listeners, for future projects, as he, you know, shares those with perspective of people that are interested in working with him.
- 4:46Justin Alan Hayes: So, david, thank you again for joining us on the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
- 4:54David Solomon: Always a blessing to be here.
- 4:55David Solomon: Thanks for having me.
- 4:57Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, absolutely yeah.
- 4:58Justin Alan Hayes: So I thought we would maybe dive into kind of like the kind of tips and tricks we'll call it of your speed writing.
- 5:06Justin Alan Hayes: You know how you, how you learned that you were good at it and how you've been able to really leverage that.
- 5:14David Solomon: Yeah, when I was about seven years old, I disobeyed my mom, as any kid does, and so my mom had a punishment, and that was writing Ephesians 6.1 out.
- 5:33David Solomon: That is, children, obey your parents and the Lord, for this is right.
- 5:37David Solomon: And I would have to write that out a hundred times.
- 5:42David Solomon: I would have to write that out a hundred times.
- 5:46David Solomon: Wow, I would master it to where I got so fast.
- 5:50David Solomon: I got it done in about 10 minutes, wow.
- 5:53David Solomon: But I faked it, you know, and I was like, oh, it's two hours and I would just sit there.
- 6:02David Solomon: And finally she caught on and she goes okay, a thousand times now.
- 6:09David Solomon: And so that's kind of where my mom picked up that I could write really fast.
- 6:17David Solomon: And, of course, after I learned the Bible verse and my lessons, my mom went hmm, this is kind of an interesting gift.
- 6:30David Solomon: Let's see what other people think.
- 6:34David Solomon: So I went to a man named Fred and he's a big, big, big sort of editor and writer in the writing industry, big sort of editor and writer in the writing industry, and he timed me on how fast I could write, because I like to tell stories.
- 6:58David Solomon: It's funny, I didn't believe that I could write.
- 7:02David Solomon: I just like to tell stories, act them out, draw them, but not write them.
- 7:12David Solomon: And so he gave me a pen and paper not a computer and said okay, write something, I'll time you.
- 7:20David Solomon: So he timed me for about 20 minutes and 80 pages later.
- 7:25David Solomon: His mouth just dropped.
- 7:29David Solomon: Um, my mom helped me hone the craft to write that fast.
- 7:41David Solomon: And also, what's important when you speed write is you literally are writing out a movie playing in your head and that is so important, so you don't know what you're going to get in the end.
- 8:00David Solomon: That's kind of fun.
- 8:04David Solomon: That's kind of the fun part of speed writing.
- 8:06David Solomon: You really don't know what you're going to get and it's just a movie and you're just watching it and it's just another medium.
- 8:14David Solomon: Instead of popping in the DVD or turning the tv on or netflix or streaming, whatever we do these days um, you're writing the movie that you want to watch and when you think of it that way, it's kind of easy to do so like, uh, yesterday, uh and today, you know, I just plopped down on my desk in my office and got a little paper out and got a pen and hit the timer and yesterday we were at 50 pages in three hours, hours.
- 8:58David Solomon: And so speed writing also, I'll go to Barnes and Noble or a Christian bookstore and I'll look at a book and I'll go hmm, that's cool, I can do better.
- 9:14David Solomon: And then I'll want to do better I'm not saying I'm the best, but I want to do better than that person.
- 9:24David Solomon: And then I push it out and back in the day, 2014 was mom's golden years of me and her as a writing duel.
- 9:38David Solomon: Oh man, there was a book every two weeks from a famous author and I had a deadline.
- 9:51David Solomon: It'd be two hours on that, and then switch to screenplay for a TV show and it'd be two hours on that, and then I would do school and it was fun.
- 10:06David Solomon: I got a lot done.
- 10:11David Solomon: I think, justin, you've actually seen some of the pilots and scripts that I wrote as a kid.
- 10:19Justin Alan Hayes: And.
- 10:19David Solomon: I speed wrote all of them and so I got so fast where I go to Barnes Noble and I also speed read and that means I can read a page in like a minute and then basically memorize it.
- 10:40David Solomon: Phot memory yeah, yeah, I'll.
- 10:44David Solomon: Uh, let's see.
- 10:45David Solomon: You want me to read this real quick.
- 10:49David Solomon: This one is uh, we'll read this one.
- 10:53David Solomon: So I wrote this, and I wrote this in record time.
- 10:59David Solomon: Jake was close to finding his target.
- 11:03David Solomon: He felt his blood pressure ramp up with every firm step he took in the muddy ground.
- 11:09David Solomon: He could tell they were not too far, but still a little distance away.
- 11:14David Solomon: Distance away, and trying to keep up the pace in the caked mud with piles of snow made it very hard to lose his balance.
- 11:24David Solomon: Sometimes he looked down on the ground and studied it with his cybernetic eye, pointing out the frequency and volume of blood they were leaving behind, which also told the story of how badly wounded they were also.
- 11:39David Solomon: So I wrote that.
- 11:41David Solomon: I put a timer on and I wrote that part in less than 20 seconds.
- 11:48Justin Alan Hayes: Wow.
- 11:49David Solomon: And so I was like floored.
- 11:51David Solomon: And that's how you speed write.
- 11:56David Solomon: You basically go.
- 11:58David Solomon: Okay, I see this scene in my head.
- 12:01David Solomon: How do I get it on paper?
- 12:04David Solomon: How do you do that?
- 12:07David Solomon: The one I wrote tonight let's get that out is it is.
- 12:19David Solomon: And I was just you know it is, it is and I was just you know, writing for fun.
- 12:28David Solomon: Johnny walked under the pier with his diving suit on and jacket and change of dry clothes in a bag thrown over his shoulder and change of dry clothes in a bag thrown over his shoulder.
- 12:38David Solomon: It was beginning to get more dark out than before, with the sun setting over the blue ocean, painting the sky a serene galore of pastels and light-toned variations of purples and pinks.
- 12:51David Solomon: A more cooler wind blew from the sea, but after being in the water and working up a sweat, it felt good, with the wind blowing back his sweat-soaked head of blonde, bushy hair.
- 13:07David Solomon: After nearly three hours of surfing with his friends who were now taking off, johnny needed to get out.
- 13:15David Solomon: His stomach was famished, sending clear signals through tiny rumbles.
- 13:20David Solomon: It was time to think about finding something to eat.
- 13:24David Solomon: A muscle spasmed in his leg and he winced as he paused to address and rub.
- 13:30David Solomon: It might have been to give back to the people who lost their homes in the local wildfires, but his coach still made him work harder than usual to push for a win.
- 13:46David Solomon: To push for a victory.
- 13:49David Solomon: Coach Jensen stood behind 13-year-old Johnny.
- 13:53David Solomon: Now notice we set this scene.
- 13:57David Solomon: We're under a pier.
- 13:58David Solomon: That took 60 seconds today.
- 14:02Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, wow.
- 14:04David Solomon: And so you're setting a scene of a movie.
- 14:08David Solomon: And when I write, when I sit down, I want to make a movie.
- 14:13David Solomon: I want to set the scene.
- 14:16David Solomon: I want to let the people know what I see.
- 14:18David Solomon: I want you to imagine going to a movie theater and I want you to take your popcorn and have a ball.
- 14:25David Solomon: I want you to come out of that a better person.
- 14:28David Solomon: But also it's a visual feast.
- 14:32David Solomon: See, the joy of writing is that you don't watch TV.
- 14:36David Solomon: You have to imagine yourself there, and that's what's so powerful about writing is that you don't watch TV.
- 14:40David Solomon: You have to imagine yourself there, and that's what's so powerful about writing, compared to TV or visual, is that you're there.
- 14:47David Solomon: Now, comic books are a little like that too, in that you imagine you're the character sometimes, and that does happen.
- 14:55David Solomon: But novels is really special because you imagine yourself as that character.
- 15:01David Solomon: And that's why first person is my favorite, because it's I did this and they did that and that.
- 15:11David Solomon: That just comes easy.
- 15:12David Solomon: And so, third person I really do not like writing, but I find myself writing it now and so, like when I go on Amazon or when I go to a bookstore, I'll see a book and I'll open it up and I'll memorize the, the way it's written, you know, the uh, the lyrics going, he said.
- 15:35David Solomon: She said looked like this, the sun looked like that, and I'll memorize what worked for that author and what sounded terrible, and then I'll copy it in my own way and make it unique.
- 15:46David Solomon: You know, I'll give you an example.
- 15:51David Solomon: Let's see, off the top of my head, a small bill.
- 15:55David Solomon: You know, clark moved with speed as the raindrops hit his red coat.
- 16:01David Solomon: He took a breath and felt the cold hit his lungs.
- 16:06David Solomon: He sighed Something wasn't right, something was wrong.
- 16:11David Solomon: And then it happened the ground shook beneath him, his worst fears coming true.
- 16:21David Solomon: And you know, that's just.
- 16:42David Solomon: You know, off the top of my head, you're setting the scene, but I took what worked from a TV show that I worked in to other novels and you're looking at how to describe things that sound good.
- 16:46David Solomon: But you're also looking at what other people relate to.
- 16:47David Solomon: Not, he said, she said that's boring.
- 16:48David Solomon: So so kick that, kill that.
- 16:49David Solomon: And so when you speed right, you just want to describe everything you can so that your audience is watching the movie and they have that visual feast, so that they can be a part of the movie.
- 17:00David Solomon: I don't want to be sitting in here, you know, having a movie and not knowing what color the walls are.
- 17:07David Solomon: I want to know what color the walls are, but I don't want to know all the decorations on the wall in the room, unless they matter to the story.
- 17:16David Solomon: That's up to the reader to find out, and so that's important too.
- 17:21David Solomon: Some writers get so hung up on novels that they spend 47 pages in one chapter.
- 17:31David Solomon: It doesn't work so like.
- 17:41David Solomon: There's one writer I know, and his prologue was 35 pages.
- 17:48David Solomon: That's a lot.
- 17:51David Solomon: You would think a lot would have happened in 35 pages.
- 17:54David Solomon: Nothing happened in 35 pages.
- 17:58David Solomon: He got off his horse, he killed the dragon, he ran, but we had to spend 35 pages talking about the different sounds of the crickets and the geese and the dragon and the scales and the reflection.
- 18:13David Solomon: Sometimes that works for high fantasy, but for a reader, especially now with attention spans, you want to move the pace, you want to tell the story.
- 18:27David Solomon: One thing that makes me unique, that a lot of people crucify me over, is I'm a screenplay writer and I'm a novel writer, so I grew up writing movies and TV shows first, so I'm a dialogue person.
- 18:45David Solomon: A lot of people that write novels hate dialogue and I'm the opposite.
- 18:50David Solomon: I was just going to ask you about that?
- 18:54Justin Alan Hayes: about that, because we spoke to one author and that was a pain point for for them, because they were having to now, you know, break it down, you know, character by character conversation, how that formats, and uh, and so for you, you really, I was like the hard part first and then eased in, I guess in a way, not to diminish the work by any stretch, but just as far as the type.
- 19:33David Solomon: Yes, when I want to create a show and then make it a novel which is what I do I always act it out.
- 19:43David Solomon: So I will act out the characters, the dialogue, the monologue.
- 19:49David Solomon: I'll become the character.
- 19:50David Solomon: I'll get to know the character, what they're going to wear, what their favorite food is, how are they walking, what accent do they have?
- 19:59David Solomon: Do they like this person?
- 20:01David Solomon: Do they like that person?
- 20:02David Solomon: What are their dislikes?
- 20:03David Solomon: You know, and then you set the mood.
- 20:07David Solomon: What does the room look like when this character walks in?
- 20:10David Solomon: Is there a fireplace?
- 20:11David Solomon: Is it raining?
- 20:12David Solomon: Is it snowing?
- 20:13David Solomon: What season are we in?
- 20:16David Solomon: And it's a visual feast when you're acting it out, because you imagine everything.
- 20:21David Solomon: But then it's quite something else when you put that to paper and go okay, well, nobody else can see what I see.
- 20:27David Solomon: So how do I put that into words?
- 20:30David Solomon: That materialize into something beautiful and complex and picturesque.
- 20:35David Solomon: And that is the beauty of what God has given me the ability to do.
- 20:41David Solomon: And screenplay I really excel at, because you don't have to describe a lot, you can just do dialogue.
- 20:55David Solomon: You describe a little bit.
- 20:57David Solomon: Do dialogue, you describe a little bit.
- 20:58David Solomon: But when I got into novels I learned that, oh, it's not that different.
- 21:04David Solomon: You're just telling what's around the characters.
- 21:10David Solomon: A lot of people got hung up when I was doing Smallville and other shows.
- 21:15David Solomon: They said well, you can't write a novel based on an episode?
- 21:17David Solomon: Well, why can't you?
- 21:18David Solomon: It's the same thing, I mean.
- 21:22David Solomon: I'll give you an example.
- 21:24David Solomon: Lex Luthor is walking up to Clark.
- 21:26David Solomon: In the screenplay, lex turns left, looks at Clark and sees that he still has spilling spirulina.
- 21:34David Solomon: He's disappointed.
- 21:35David Solomon: He mouths a cuss word and then walks out.
- 21:40David Solomon: Clark goes after him and confronts him.
- 21:43David Solomon: Okay, that's the screenplay.
- 21:46David Solomon: How do you do that?
- 21:48David Solomon: It's not that much different.
- 21:50David Solomon: Lex stood there watching Clark.
- 21:55David Solomon: He was disappointed as he ran his head, or ran his hand on his bald head, reminding him of the pain that he experienced in the town he called home, in the town he called Smallville.
- 22:10David Solomon: He looked at Clark and saw Clark's piercing eyes see through his soul, haunting him like a ghost.
- 22:19David Solomon: He knew he had done wrong.
- 22:21David Solomon: He knew that he was in the wrong and that is why he had to exit the room before something else happened, before Clark confronted him and knew the truth behind all the secrets that he veiled.
- 22:37David Solomon: Still the same thing.
- 22:42Justin Alan Hayes: Same, thing, yeah.
- 22:44David Solomon: And then dialogue.
- 22:46David Solomon: A lot of authors hold back on dialogue.
- 22:48David Solomon: I welcome dialogue, I think dialogue is beautiful and that's what makes tv.
- 22:54David Solomon: But I think what, what is rejectful in a lot of novels right now is we don't have dialogue, we have the action.
- 23:04David Solomon: So it's very important to have dialogue With your characters that is believable and not hogwash Like some authors like to do.
- 23:15David Solomon: That's why, when I'm hired as a screenplay writer To screenplay a novel, it's so hard Because you don't have dialogue that makes sense.
- 23:27David Solomon: The author has all this fancy dialogue that just doesn't sound real, and a lot of novels have that problem.
- 23:37David Solomon: It doesn't sound real.
- 23:40David Solomon: You want the dialogue to be real.
- 23:42David Solomon: What would that character say?
- 23:46David Solomon: What would that character do?
- 23:47David Solomon: And so that's important.
- 23:53David Solomon: When I write novels, I fall in love with emotion, so I always want my characters to be emotional.
- 24:00David Solomon: I always want to remind the audience that the characters are having an emotion, and when someone is reading my work, I want them to go wow, I feel for that character.
- 24:17David Solomon: Oh, why did that have to happen to that character?
- 24:20David Solomon: I don't want them to take a guess that that happened.
- 24:24David Solomon: I want them to know it happened.
- 24:26David Solomon: Partially.
- 24:28David Solomon: Why I quit the story tonight?
- 24:29David Solomon: Because I stared at it and went huh, no, that's terrible, let's try again.
- 24:35David Solomon: What does he feel when the wind hits him?
- 24:38David Solomon: We know that his hair is wet, we know that it feels good, but what is it making him feel?
- 24:44David Solomon: Is it sending shivers through him?
- 24:46David Solomon: Does he like the cold weather?
- 24:48David Solomon: Does he get sick in the cold weather?
- 24:50David Solomon: Is it unusual to have the cold weather where he is?
- 24:55David Solomon: Is the water cold that he's surfing in?
- 24:58David Solomon: You have to ask all these questions in order to paint a picture and a story, and that's important.
- 25:10Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, well, we still have a couple minutes.
- 25:15Justin Alan Hayes: I know writing your experience writing songs lyrics.
- 25:22Justin Alan Hayes: Right, writing songs lyrics.
- 25:24Justin Alan Hayes: How is that different or the approach you take in that case?
- 25:33David Solomon: It's really funny.
- 25:34David Solomon: I usually, when I act out, I write the song in the background and so I don't know the song until it fits.
- 25:51David Solomon: The character, like the new one I'm doing for a project, is I kind of want to be more than friends.
- 25:58David Solomon: I don't know where this is going.
- 26:01David Solomon: I don't know about you, but I really like you too.
- 26:06David Solomon: Can you tell me, do you feel the same way too?
- 26:09David Solomon: I want it more than friends.
- 26:11David Solomon: So that's playing in the background of these two characters eyeing each other and they like each other, but they don't know it yet and you know they kind of want to be more than friends.
- 26:24David Solomon: That's just an example of you know what do you do in that moment?
- 26:29David Solomon: Or another one is called I ghosted you where I literally was acting out this scene for this pilot I'm doing, and it's a scene where someone's standing over the Brooklyn Bridge and someone goes to them.
- 26:46David Solomon: So it's.
- 26:46David Solomon: I was just standing over the bridge, you said that you would be here and now you're not.
- 26:54David Solomon: I should have looked at my phone.
- 26:56David Solomon: Now.
- 26:56David Solomon: I'm caught up all alone Now.
- 26:58David Solomon: I got my motions tied in the knot.
- 27:01David Solomon: I don't know where you went, but I think it's time for me to.
- 27:06David Solomon: Where did you go?
- 27:08David Solomon: Where did you run to?
- 27:09David Solomon: Did you get stuck along the way?
- 27:13David Solomon: So it goes on about how this person ghosted them and how they're emotional about it and that's what plays in the pilot while they're looking at their phone.
- 27:22David Solomon: So I do my own original songs and then I sell it to artists like one republic, like uh jb, like usher, like other people, because you're writing that for that episode or that character.
- 27:37David Solomon: So it's also called speed writing, uh lyrics that's what I was gonna ask you about.
- 27:46Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, yeah, they just come naturally.
- 27:49David Solomon: It's like, uh, I'm in the shower and the song comes to me.
- 27:54David Solomon: You know, I, uh, I feel this way, I feel that way.
- 27:58David Solomon: You know it's bam bam bam.
- 28:00David Solomon: Oh, that character feels that way.
- 28:02David Solomon: Or you know, I did a Wonder Woman pilot on Most Famous, for that never got to see the light of day and it's I don't want to see you ever again, never again.
- 28:19David Solomon: And it's Diana and she's in her bedroom and she met Steve Trevor and Steve broke her heart and so she doesn't want to see you know him again.
- 28:29David Solomon: And it ends with if you don't want to see me, you just don't want to see me ever again.
- 28:37David Solomon: Don't leave me hanging here so dry.
- 28:40David Solomon: I feel like I just want to cry, I'm breaking down, I'm breaking down tonight.
- 28:46David Solomon: Somebody, help me, help me light.
- 28:49David Solomon: And so she's crying and you pan the camera and it ends.
- 28:57David Solomon: Now we shot it and I wrote the song.
- 28:59David Solomon: The song lives on.
- 29:01David Solomon: You've heard it on the radio, but it's not for that pilot.
- 29:09David Solomon: The artist took it, made a music video, did the same idea and it works.
- 29:15David Solomon: And so music is a part of my process of creating, and I'm also an artist, so I draw what my characters wear or what they look like.
- 29:28David Solomon: I will always know he has red hair and he likes to wear blue shorts and a green top and he doesn't like gray.
- 29:38David Solomon: I'm not one of these writers that has documents that talk about all their dislikes.
- 29:43David Solomon: I know it because I draw the character and I see it like a comic book come to life, so that's how I create.
- 29:53Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, no, this is I'm glad we got to the lyrics and the music part.
- 30:00Justin Alan Hayes: That was what I was hoping we would get a chance to, to do and and have you, uh do, do some, uh, do some singing, because I mean, really, I mean we talk about, talk about gifts and, uh, you know what people have and, uh, it's, it's truly you know everything around the creating, whether it's novels, whether it's screenplay, whether it's the lyrics, uh, you definitely, uh, you know, have, have the gifts, and I know you've already, you already know that.
- 30:31Justin Alan Hayes: But for people who, uh, who don't and are still learning, uh, the evolution of you, know who you are and uh, what, uh, what, what exactly you do and how you do it and how it all kind of comes together, uh, that was, uh, I'm glad we got to that, that point, because that was what I was looking forward to to the most.
- 30:56Justin Alan Hayes: Um, and you just never know time, time wise, and so to know that you have kind of these layers as you're thinking about a screenplay or novel, and you have that, those lyrics playing during the scene, thinking at this point, but you've been doing it so long that it's just more about the doing, and what do I need to do.
- 31:32Justin Alan Hayes: You have the confidence.
- 31:34Justin Alan Hayes: You have lots of work you've done and are doing, and I think that's key for anybody really finding out what they like, what they, what you do, and then being able to pivot, depending on okay, we're going to take out of this, this, this screenplay, this novel and this song.
- 32:18Justin Alan Hayes: We're going to take this song and you're going gonna sell it to a particular artist, uh, and, and then maybe the, the screenplay go, goes, uh, goes through, and then the songs playing in the theater, when or or at the, the house or wherever we have happened.
- 32:39David Solomon: Uh, some famous songs and some famous movies that I wrote and I hear that and go wow, I had a part to play and like audiences are like that's a cool song, right it's, you know, it's so powerful really because you're, you're bringing you know different senses, you're bringing you know kind of the the watching and the listening and then music.
- 33:04Justin Alan Hayes: And you know, no matter where we live across the world, music plays a a huge, huge part.
- 33:11Justin Alan Hayes: You know there's obviously variances depending on cultures and where people reside.
- 33:17Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, but from you know the beginning of time, some form of music, hearing the beat in our heads or humming a beat or being as advanced as you are with lyrics, I think that's something that is universal across humankind, human nature.
- 33:44Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, I would agree with you and uh we got two minutes.
- 33:58David Solomon: Two minutes, just that's why speed writing creating it all stems um.
- 34:02Justin Alan Hayes: It's from a lot of hard work right and from god, of course and that's also something for people to listen and hear that what might be easier than something else doesn't mean that it wasn't hard work, that there is a lot of hard work that goes in.
- 34:24Justin Alan Hayes: So even if you're good and you like something doesn't mean that there's not going to be hard work.
- 34:29Justin Alan Hayes: There's going to be.
- 34:30Justin Alan Hayes: You know, sometimes in the shower, sometimes you have a block of time set aside, but maybe you know those thoughts.
- 34:38Justin Alan Hayes: You're at a point in time where you're like crap, you know, like I had this time set aside and why couldn't that flow in at that particular time.
- 34:48Justin Alan Hayes: So to know that there is going to be there's going to be hard work, that it's not going to be easy, like as if we're winning the lottery, the Powerball.
- 35:00David Solomon: I agree yeah.
- 35:08Justin Alan Hayes: I agree.
- 35:08Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah Well, thank you for again I said, every time being so transparent and going through the different layers screenplay, novels, music, lyrics, the process, going through speed writing, how you learned how to do it, and that's something that you do, current to this day, and so if somebody is out there listening and watching, it may take some time.
- 35:43Justin Alan Hayes: So what you're doing and excelling at might not be something that another person per se might be, might be picking up and able to do.
- 35:56Justin Alan Hayes: It could be or it could not, maybe.
- 35:59Justin Alan Hayes: Maybe it's the lyric part versus the screenplay, versus the novel, and I think, going through the mechanics, like you did, and how it got started with your mom and as you're growing up, and how that started to transfer into screenplays and novels, the lyrics of songs and, uh, we just want to say thank you for for joining us on this episode as, as you, uh, as you do, I'm really just sharing your, your talents and tools of the trade.
- 36:39David Solomon: Thank you, I enjoyed being here.
- 36:41David Solomon: Thank you.
- 36:43Justin Alan Hayes: And I hope it helps someone too.
- 36:45David Solomon: Yeah.
- 36:46Justin Alan Hayes: I have a hunch that it might at least one if not more.
- 36:53Justin Alan Hayes: And so we'll give it a wrap up now.
- 36:58Justin Alan Hayes: So thanks to David Solomon for joining us today.
- 37:01Justin Alan Hayes: Solomon for joining us today.
- 37:03Justin Alan Hayes: As always, given his time, mechanics, tips, ideas, speed writing and beyond, he was able to share with us and then be able to grace us with some lyrics and some music, so doing acapella.
- 37:23Justin Alan Hayes: So definitely grateful for that.
- 37:25Justin Alan Hayes: And we're grateful for you, our viewers, our listeners, wherever you're at, whatever corner of the world you're at.
- 37:33Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for watching, thank you for listening.
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