Transcript

09/01/26 - Hour 2 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: Are huddled up on a Tuesday. This club is going up, Billy.
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Speaker 2: Listen, Drake was on to something. Gets that club going
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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday. It's the right way to work.
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Speaker 3: for the early risers, insomniacs, sociopaths waiting for the health
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Speaker 3: club to open, and people who are up at 6 a.m.
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Speaker 3: As part of their daily routine. We welcome all to
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Speaker 3: the huddle today. Sadly, 17-3, Brewers lose last night in
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Speaker 3: the opener of the series to end all series. And
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Speaker 3: I have to say, I haven't been taking the pulse.
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Speaker 3: I saw one of our colleagues who does what we
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Speaker 3: do in Chicago, who was vacationing in Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: Of course. Of course they are. Of course. Of course
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Speaker 1: they are. Availing himself of our beauty. Lake Geneva, Door County.
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Speaker 1: You tell me that he didn't want to go on vacation.
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Speaker 1: He didn't want to go to Kankakee for some reason.
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Speaker 3: He went to a grocery store that had the plastic
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Speaker 3: bags with a Packers logo on it, and he used
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Speaker 3: that to pick up his dog excrement.
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're so funny. That's hilarious. That's a social. What
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Speaker 1: an own. What an own.
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Speaker 3: But if I was in Chicago broadcasting to a Chicago audience,
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Speaker 3: and this is just me, I guess, but I'd be like,
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Speaker 3: they're not going to win the division, so what are
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Speaker 3: we even worried about? Just think about Roland Goodman. Don't
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Speaker 3: waste all these homers. We're going to be playing in
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Speaker 3: the wild card. We have a good team. I would
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Speaker 3: not have the division on my radar totally. I think
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Speaker 3: there are people that still think that it's possible or.
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Speaker 1: Probable that they'll win the division.
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Speaker 2: Well, that probable would be a tough one to sell.
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Speaker 2: Possible is definitely something you can sell hope stock for.
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Speaker 1: Sell the dream, right.
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Speaker 2: And the reason why is just because of how valuable
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Speaker 2: it is, right? Because you win this division, you're going
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Speaker 2: to win the buy, and you then would keep on
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Speaker 2: this torrid pace that they're on. I do think that
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Speaker 2: most would have to be reasonable about it and realize
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Speaker 2: that the wild card is where they're going to go.
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Speaker 2: And frankly, Drew, that might be a hotter chase. Philadelphia
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Speaker 2: has won 14 of their last 16. They just won
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Speaker 2: again last night. and they're tied with them right now
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Speaker 2: for who would host that three-game series. And as much
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Speaker 2: as you want to win the division, as much as
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Speaker 2: you'd love to be able to, they just got to
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Speaker 2: keep winning games because they don't want to go to
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia for that three-game best-of-three series.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing. They have to worry about that.
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Speaker 4: They have to worry about their playoff spot, and I
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Speaker 4: think most of them would deep down agree that the
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Speaker 4: divisions are the longest of shots. But I think you
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Speaker 4: underestimate the emotions of so many grown men that were
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Speaker 4: really hurt last year when the Brewers flew the L
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Speaker 4: flag in their stadium after the, after a generational series
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Speaker 4: win and it's bothered them and it's bothered that fan
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Speaker 4: base for so long that somebody would dare use the
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Speaker 4: L flag against them. And they've had a burn their
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Speaker 4: side about the Brewers for, for this long. And that
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Speaker 4: was the pinnacle of it. I don't think that was
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Speaker 4: even the start of it. They've been frustrated for years. No, Billy,
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Speaker 4: it's true. They've been frustrated for years that this little
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Speaker 4: team up north keeps winning, and they don't know how.
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Speaker 4: What are they drinking up there? What is the magic
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Speaker 4: potion up there? Why are the Brewers inevitable? This has
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Speaker 4: to end. This doesn't make sense. They must be cheating.
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Speaker 4: They must be this. It just bothers them to no end.
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Speaker 4: So any moment they can to get a whooping on
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Speaker 4: us in their own home park, they're going to try
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Speaker 4: and farm that for all the aura they can. And
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Speaker 4: that's just the reality of the situation. So I think
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Speaker 4: we underestimate that the fragility of the, the emotions of the,
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Speaker 4: of the grown adults in Chicago land, mostly in the
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Speaker 4: North side that need anything they can, even if the
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Speaker 4: lead is only cut to seven, they need a moment
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Speaker 4: like that to say, see, we're still the best. We're
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Speaker 4: still cooler. We still are Wrigley. We are still drink
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Speaker 4: old style, whatever, whatever, whatever. So I think that's, I'm
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Speaker 4: glad we don't have that fragility of Matt.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, we have some, I'm not going to lie.
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Speaker 1: I have emotional too. I'm emotional, too. Emotional damage. Well,
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Speaker 1: they just... That's what it is. Let's put a quarter
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Speaker 1: in him. Look at that rant. It was beautiful.
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Speaker 2: Come on.
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Speaker 1: What a rant.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that was right up there with BMW driving,
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Speaker 3: Winnetka living.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, wearing the short... Shut up, KB.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, clip it, Hunter.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man.
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Speaker 1: Clip it, Hunter. Clip it. Set it to him.
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Speaker 4: But listen, this is what it is. Now, then you
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Speaker 4: have the true... There's a lot of true feared Eeyore
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Speaker 4: sports fans that deep down, they... they have two sides
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Speaker 4: of it. Like you lose a game like this, you
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Speaker 4: start to think about that dark door. Like, well, maybe
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Speaker 4: we will lose every game and lose the division and collapse.
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Speaker 4: And then you have the opposite of the super high
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Speaker 4: pie in the sky optimism where we'll be one, one.
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Speaker 1: Why can't we win seven more?
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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden we're going to be
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Speaker 4: awesome and win the division.
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Speaker 2: Well, to me, I think the, the comeback dream would
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Speaker 2: also happen from as Mike and Merrill sent us in, uh,
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Speaker 2: Early this morning as Mike was waking up, even before
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Speaker 2: the five o'clock club started, he was up four 27.
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Speaker 1: This one came in.
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Speaker 2: My man said, it's absolutely amazing how the majority of
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Speaker 2: that fan base for the Cubs, including the media on
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Speaker 2: marquee sports network are a bunch of jack wads.
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Speaker 1: Let's go.
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Speaker 2: Wisconsin lives rent free in their pea sized brains. This
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Speaker 2: was just on the Cubs post game show on marquee.
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Speaker 2: And as per usual, they were doing green, green Bay
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Speaker 2: sucks chance on TV. And the score bug got flipped
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Speaker 2: onto Marquis, at least onto the postgame show, as the
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Speaker 2: Bears up 17-3 over the Packers.
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Speaker 1: I think that's where some of the dream of.
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Speaker 2: The comeback would come from, is that they just watched
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Speaker 2: a 21-3 comeback in the playoffs. And as Armand continues
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Speaker 2: to hammer home the generational victory over the Cubs in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs... That was a generational win for Bears fans
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Speaker 2: in January.
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Speaker 1: That's how they feel about it. Don't question about it. No,
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to.
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Speaker 2: Listen, if you're going to call the Brewers winning in
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Speaker 2: game five of the first round of the playoffs, then
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Speaker 2: I think you can call beating your... arch rival, the
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Speaker 2: oldest rival in football in a playoff game as a
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Speaker 2: generational win.
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Speaker 4: Well, second round because there was a wildcard round, but yes,
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Speaker 4: that's fair. It's a playoff win, but at least we
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Speaker 4: will always have the NFC championship game that we beat.
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Speaker 1: No, that's fair, but that was also now a generation ago.
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Speaker 1: There's overlap.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the I'd rather win the NFC Championship game
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Speaker 3: on enemy soil than a wild card round game.
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Speaker 2: No one's arguing that, but again, that was also 15
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Speaker 2: years ago. If it's a generation, it's 20 years, as
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Speaker 2: Jim Nance taught us on the Super Bowl a couple
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Speaker 2: of years ago.
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Speaker 1: That would be it. At least we legit won it.
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Speaker 4: Theirs was kind of a really fall-ass-backwards-lucky kind of win.
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Speaker 1: Wouldn't you say the Bears?
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Speaker 2: Fall ass backwards lucky kind of win where they score
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Speaker 2: 25 points in the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying we walked away from the Brewers Cup
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Speaker 4: series saying, okay, the better team won.
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Speaker 1: Everyone knows that.
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Speaker 4: And I don't think people walked away from the Bears-Packers
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Speaker 4: game thinking that.
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Speaker 1: That's my point right there. I just think they.
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Speaker 4: Got lucky and we blew it. I'm saying we blew it, okay? Now,
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Speaker 4: maybe I'm being a little unfair by saying that, okay?
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Speaker 1: I'll admit that. Perhaps. Maybe. We'll see if the people agree.
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Speaker 2: 877-794-1973. We were asking earlier this morning how long you
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Speaker 2: made it last night, how far you made it into
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Speaker 2: the game. I liked our friend Jeffrey in Milwaukee.
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Speaker 1: I don't know why. But I made it until the
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Speaker 1: sixth inning until I called it. Come on, Jeffrey. Blush
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Speaker 1: it down. It's a new day.
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Speaker 2: Janney and Appleton said I was done with that nightmare, though,
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Speaker 2: after the third. I couldn't watch anymore.
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Speaker 1: That was about when I checked out.
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Speaker 3: Even though they didn't score in the third, but they
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Speaker 3: had that ugly error where Bowers and Harrison almost killed
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Speaker 3: each other. And then there was an out in between,
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Speaker 3: and then it was a base hit by Carson Keller.
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Speaker 1: So I'm like, well, this is over.
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Speaker 3: This is not getting any better tonight. That was one
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Speaker 3: of my spidey sense told me. All right, so one
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Speaker 3: of the things that you don't explore, and we're seeing
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Speaker 3: it more and more. We've seen it a lot. Luis Lara, apparently.
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Speaker 3: Andy in West Bend, Texas program. He cannot stand the
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Speaker 3: embarrassment and the debacle, the folly of Andrew Vaughn pitching
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Speaker 3: two innings. He's just forfeit the game. Just call it.
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Speaker 3: You've got 13 pitchers. Why is this allowed? He thinks
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Speaker 3: it's a complete travesty. I usually think it's kind of funny.
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Speaker 3: It's excessive when it has to be two innings and
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Speaker 3: paying customers have to watch that. It's a little bit
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Speaker 3: like paying full price for preseason football. which on Friday
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Speaker 3: night in Green Bay wasn't that bad.
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Speaker 1: That might be the most entertaining game of the year.
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Speaker 3: Dom Catronio said something as well last evening to the
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Speaker 3: Twitterverse while people were looking for things to do on
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Speaker 3: the second screen where the Brewers were unwatchable. I would
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Speaker 3: love for MLB to institute a similar rule to the
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Speaker 3: NBA's end-of-quarter shooting percentage rule. Position player pitching doesn't impact
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Speaker 3: your season line, so you can go up there swinging
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Speaker 3: with no worries. It would never happen, but position players
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Speaker 3: pitching used to be funny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking to like guys, like trying to
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Speaker 1: draw walks and stuff. I just like guys.
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Speaker 3: That you're striking out on an EFIS or apparently there
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Speaker 3: was a, a twins rookie last night, hit his first
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Speaker 3: big league Homer against the Tigers position player. Again, Laura
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Speaker 3: did it earlier and people are like, it doesn't count.
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Speaker 1: Well, it counts, but. Should the outs count?
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Speaker 3: It's a little bit asterisky because it's not the same.
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Speaker 1: It's in-game.
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Speaker 3: It's like preseason breaking out in the middle of the
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Speaker 3: regular season kind of, right?
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Speaker 1: It does get excessive, and it is bad.
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Speaker 2: I remember Heller and I got into this knockout dragout
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Speaker 2: when he got into it with Otani, and I was like,
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Speaker 2: this is the greatest game anyone's ever played in the
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Speaker 2: three home run, whatever, four stolen base game where the
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Speaker 2: last one came against.
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Speaker 1: Him while he actually hit two home runs.
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Speaker 2: Well, no, he hit three and the third one hit
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Speaker 2: one to the moon, but I do get like the
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Speaker 2: 50 mile an hour pitches.
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Speaker 1: Like some, we could have a chance to go. Somebody's
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Speaker 1: going to hit a title list.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But I like, I don't know. I don't, I'm not a,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a.
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Speaker 2: Changing stats in terms of who's throwing and what the
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Speaker 2: kind of game is, but I do know that they
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Speaker 2: tried it drew a significant amount of times, right? over
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Speaker 2: the last couple of years to curtail how much you
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Speaker 2: could throw yeah position players and like.
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Speaker 3: A rule changes a specific time it has to be
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Speaker 3: a certain uh run differential and.
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Speaker 2: D.l hall gave up that homer and murph was like
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Speaker 2: all right sweet go get him go go get him
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Speaker 2: and let's throw bonnie in here because we are not
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Speaker 2: doing anything that's going to hurt.
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Speaker 4: Us but there's no sport where they would i mean
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Speaker 4: you don't do that in basketball if the starter's playing
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Speaker 4: against the backups they don't take away their points That's
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Speaker 4: just part of the game. I mean, if a guy
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Speaker 4: scores against a third line winger or, or, or a
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Speaker 4: backup goaltender, well, I'm just saying it's not the same,
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Speaker 4: I guess. I'm not going to pretend there's equivalency in
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Speaker 4: a position.
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Speaker 3: Again, like Tom's point is if, if you catch a
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Speaker 3: ball after a basket made basket, you catch a ball
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Speaker 3: and you heave up a 70 footer, it counts as
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Speaker 3: a shot attempt.
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Speaker 1: Like, at the buzzer, at the end, like... So who
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Speaker 1: do we let decide the official... And that's the point.
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Speaker 2: They did just change that now, where it's like, we
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Speaker 2: want guys to be throwing the ball in from 70 feet.
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Speaker 1: So the official score changed that.
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Speaker 3: With the prop bets and stuff, we've got to protect
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Speaker 3: the integrity of the shooting percentages.
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Speaker 2: Well, because they were also just seeing guys dribble it out.
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Speaker 2: That was the biggest one, is they were seeing guys
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Speaker 2: dribble it out because they didn't want to impact.
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Speaker 1: Their shooting percentage. They didn't want to impact their shooting percentage.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 3: It's, it's an abominable and it used to be more rare.
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Speaker 3: And again, I go back to a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 3: it was at, and council told, uh, told me that
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Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, the, the numbers guys say we should
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Speaker 3: do it more often because they think when you're down.
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Speaker 3: like three runs in the seventh, that it's a lost
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Speaker 3: cause and you shouldn't be wasting your time.
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Speaker 1: Cause the odds say that you're, you're not going to
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Speaker 1: come back.
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Speaker 3: And he's like, he did say that, like the analytics say,
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Speaker 3: do it more and keep your, protect you, the integrity
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Speaker 3: of your, your bullpen and your, your pitching staff.
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Speaker 2: And now if we were going to do it in
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Speaker 2: that spirit, I would say if it hits a certain
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Speaker 2: run differential, you should get a free option where you're
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Speaker 2: able to bring somebody up from triple a to and
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Speaker 2: not have to go through the full, whatever it is,
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Speaker 2: 10 days, you send somebody.
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Speaker 1: Down, you go down.
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Speaker 2: So then we know we can get you back up here,
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Speaker 2: but you are, we're going to wear a couple here,
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Speaker 2: but we're going to bring some certain guys up. Cause
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Speaker 2: then you'd at least get pitchers throwing the game. If
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Speaker 2: that's what you care about. The other side of it
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Speaker 2: is it's evolved.
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Speaker 3: Like it used to be guys would go out there
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Speaker 3: and I know can say, go got hurt famously trying
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Speaker 3: to pitch.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: He hurt his elbow or something like.
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Speaker 3: You, you don't want to risk position players, but they
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Speaker 3: used to try to throw like BP speed and Now
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Speaker 3: it's just Ephesus.
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Speaker 6: It's becoming the Ephesus marathon, which like it, it was
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Speaker 6: always a debacle, but I remember my boy Cirillo out
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Speaker 6: there and he pitched in college.
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Speaker 1: He was actually trying.
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Speaker 3: And he was trying to sink it a little bit,
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Speaker 3: trying to work it. And like, he's not just up there.
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Speaker 1: Here you go. Here's a lollipop for you. Like, like
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Speaker 1: dad throw into the five-year-old, you know, it's like, come on.
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Speaker 1: What's harder to hit? Well, that's the thing for big leaguers.
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Speaker 1: It probably is. It is tougher.
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Speaker 3: And that's why it's not like he kept, Or, you know,
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Speaker 3: activate Eddie Cedar or Marcus Handel and let them throw.
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Speaker 1: I thought about that.
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Speaker 3: Put a screen up and let them throw from 45 feet.
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Speaker 1: And let's get it.
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Speaker 2: Get our three outs and get off the field.
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Speaker 4: The most realistic solution is probably to allow the extra spot,
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Speaker 4: like you said, Billy, a special reserve. It's sort of
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Speaker 4: like the emergency goalie from the stands in hockey, right?
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Speaker 2: The emergency goalie would be the closest equivalent, I guess.
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Speaker 4: And then you have your Easton McGee or whatever. That's
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Speaker 4: a 4A pitcher that gets the spot every week. Now,
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Speaker 4: you'd have to pay an extra guy probably, which I'm.
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Speaker 1: Sure the union doesn't like. Which they'll never do.
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Speaker 2: The union hates that. Listen, we're fighting a lot about
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Speaker 2: how much money we're paying.
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Speaker 1: And then the old school guys are like, come on.
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Speaker 3: They used to do it with a 10-man pitching staff
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Speaker 3: and never use position players, right?
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Speaker 1: That's right. Roll and don't worry about it 100%. The
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Speaker 1: game's changed, though.
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Speaker 4: And the thing is, you are executing a strategy by
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Speaker 4: using one of those players, by saving another arm.
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Speaker 1: And that's just the reality of it.
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Speaker 2: It is fascinating how much the numbers guys, though, hammer
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Speaker 2: at home. Like, hey, at some point, we've got to
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Speaker 2: punt on this.
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Speaker 1: It's true. And you can feel it.
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Speaker 3: It was 6-0 when I turned the game off, and
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Speaker 3: then it got even more gruesome. But you're punting on
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Speaker 3: that game and your mindset shifts from how do we
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Speaker 3: come back to how do we not screw up the
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Speaker 3: rest of the week?
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Speaker 1: How do we not screw up the rest of the week?
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Speaker 1: Especially in game one, yeah. Yeah, especially if you're in
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Speaker 1: a stretch.
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Speaker 3: Of 16, whatever days in a row you're playing or
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Speaker 3: whatever it is, you don't want to. And so it
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Speaker 3: is something to think about. And maybe it's like, I
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Speaker 3: don't know, man, but the Ephesus and the lobs.
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Speaker 1: It's bad.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Well, cause Vaughn threw a cup first and now it's,
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Speaker 1: it's not funny.
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Speaker 2: Vaughn threw a couple of weeks ago and I did
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Speaker 2: see him kind of buzzing. He was looking, he pitched
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Speaker 2: back in the day. You could tell he was a
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Speaker 2: little miffed when he wasn't able to locate.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then his first pitch last night was a
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Speaker 1: knuckleball that hit a guy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: He's like, all right, give me the heck about it. Well,
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Speaker 1: he's trying to throw knucklers and you're, you're, you're effacing.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I, I used to watch guys like play
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Speaker 3: catch position players, play catch. I remember like, Mark Loretta
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Speaker 3: and Cirillo and those guys, and they were always pitching
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Speaker 3: to each other. They were trying to sink it and
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Speaker 3: they were throwing knucklers and they were always doing that.
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Speaker 3: They always fantasize it. And then they would get in
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Speaker 3: the game and they'd actually try and they'd be throwing 80.
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Speaker 3: Now guys are throwing 35, 40 and it's lollipop and
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Speaker 3: it's become slow pitch.
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Speaker 2: It's like, well, let me ask you, I hate to
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Speaker 2: do it as a, for a Cubs guy, but I did, uh,
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Speaker 2: since they're playing the cows, but I do remember Rizzo
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Speaker 2: being one of the guys that had always said, I
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Speaker 2: want to pitch on a pitch. He went through the
15:21
Speaker 2: first one. He said, get me off of this mound
15:23
Speaker 2: as soon as possible. Uh, That's scary. That is funny, though,
15:28
Speaker 2: when you stand 90 feet away from the hitter and
15:30
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you move that much closer.
15:32
Speaker 2: That's a different wake-up call.
15:34
Speaker 4: I also laugh at the idea that those guys' arms
15:36
Speaker 4: shouldn't matter either. We do it to save pitchers' arms,
15:39
Speaker 4: but you also don't want Vaughn and all those guys
15:41
Speaker 4: blowing their arms out.
15:42
Speaker 1: That's why it's come to the guys throwing the Ephesus. Exactly.
15:46
Speaker 1: You don't want to risk. Again, Canseco blew out his elbow,
15:50
Speaker 1: I think, throwing. Look it up. Jose Canseco pitching injury.
15:52
Speaker 1: He was goofy. He tried to throw curves and stuff.
15:55
Speaker 1: He was trying to pitch. And that's what they used
15:57
Speaker 1: to do.
15:58
Speaker 3: The position guy would go there and try to throw
16:01
Speaker 3: 75 and try to sink it, maybe throw a breaking
16:04
Speaker 3: ball once in a while because they all do it
16:06
Speaker 3: on the side when they're playing catch.
16:07
Speaker 1: Made 29.
16:10
Speaker 2: Undergoes Tommy John surgery after getting blown out in a game.
16:14
Speaker 1: When he was playing for the Rangers. Playing for the Rangers. Yep,
16:17
Speaker 1: against the Red Sox. That was one.
16:18
Speaker 3: Back in Canseco's career, he became known for having a
16:21
Speaker 3: foul ball, a home run go off his noggin.
16:23
Speaker 1: Into the bleachers. Three days before that. And then he
16:26
Speaker 1: got in the game and pitched and blew out his elbow. Damn,
16:28
Speaker 1: that was two days before that?
16:30
Speaker 4: Three days before that was that when David Hulse was
16:32
Speaker 4: making fun of him.
16:33
Speaker 1: But the reality.
16:33
Speaker 4: Listen, if you don't like it, and if you think...
16:36
Speaker 4: I'm going to say, maybe this sounds like an old
16:37
Speaker 4: guy take. You didn't have to watch or stay in
16:39
Speaker 4: the park.
16:40
Speaker 1: You didn't have to. Yeah, that's true. Everyone's like, oh,
16:42
Speaker 1: they have to be subjectious. You don't. You're not required
16:44
Speaker 1: to do that. To Dom's point, it does. It affects
16:46
Speaker 1: the stats and everything. That part's true. So how do
16:49
Speaker 1: you handle that? How do you handle that?
16:50
Speaker 4: But then we get into this whole opinion where, well,
16:53
Speaker 4: he got that homer off Easton McGee or Woodford, so
16:56
Speaker 4: it doesn't count.
16:56
Speaker 1: Well, why not?
16:57
Speaker 4: You know what counts off of Sandy Koufax?
16:59
Speaker 1: It is what it is. You still hit a homer.
17:01
Speaker 1: You did. You did. I agree. But It is something
17:04
Speaker 1: to consider, and it's becoming so rampant. And Dom's right.
17:08
Speaker 1: It's happening so much now that it's not as fun
17:09
Speaker 1: as it used to be.
17:11
Speaker 2: Well, it was an oddity, and I really do agree
17:15
Speaker 2: with that one.
17:15
Speaker 1: It happens far more than that. It used to be. Yeah,
17:19
Speaker 1: I covered many of those where it's like, okay, 17-3. Oh,
17:21
Speaker 1: it's funny.
17:22
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, and it helps you turn the page.
17:24
Speaker 3: There ain't no turning the page. It didn't help anything
17:26
Speaker 3: last night having Andrew Vaughn throw two innings. It just
17:29
Speaker 3: got you through to the mandated 27 outs. But to
17:34
Speaker 3: your point, Billy, having a taxi squad or having an
17:36
Speaker 3: allowance for that, you're almost rewarding teams for being inept.
17:39
Speaker 1: Well, it's fair.
17:40
Speaker 2: You're like, hey, we got the security blanket. We might
17:43
Speaker 2: as well throw it.
17:44
Speaker 1: Then it might even become more rampant. Well, how about
17:47
Speaker 1: the optics, the imagery?
17:49
Speaker 4: Does it affect you that you lost by a worse
17:51
Speaker 4: score than you really did? Does it look more embarrassing?
17:55
Speaker 4: I don't think it matters because I think I'm aware
17:56
Speaker 4: of what it was last night. It's only 17 to three,
17:59
Speaker 4: not 10 to three.
18:00
Speaker 1: 10 to three or 17 threes.
18:02
Speaker 4: Are you saving any ego and pride and hubris? Some
18:04
Speaker 4: people might want to buy into that. I don't, but
18:07
Speaker 4: some people might say, well, it's also serves to embarrass
18:09
Speaker 4: you more by doing that. Cause like, well, history will
18:13
Speaker 4: look back on that score and say, I liked up
18:15
Speaker 4: when the brewer scored 22 runs. It wasn't a legit 22,
18:19
Speaker 4: probably not in that sense, but.
18:21
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. Eight of them off the long run.
18:23
Speaker 1: It's just part of the game. It's evolved now. And so, yeah,
18:26
Speaker 1: Vaughn gives up the last seven.
18:28
Speaker 3: So if they had used a real pitcher, again, Bryce Wilson,
18:31
Speaker 3: what he's been doing lately and sucking up innings, that
18:34
Speaker 3: was incredible.
18:35
Speaker 1: And to your point, have a guy like that.
18:37
Speaker 3: And that's where here's an old guy moment.
18:42
Speaker 1: There used to be guys that threw knuckleballs, and they
18:45
Speaker 1: could throw every day. Every day, Sparks, Wakefield. Steve Sparks,
18:48
Speaker 1: Tim Wakefield.
18:49
Speaker 3: If you had a knuckleballer on your staff, it wasn't
18:51
Speaker 3: always pretty, but they were legit pitchers, and They could
18:55
Speaker 3: save you in those.
18:56
Speaker 1: And they'd have the ability to be a little bit
18:58
Speaker 1: more jelly-armed.
18:59
Speaker 3: Nobody throws a knuckleball anymore, really.
19:01
Speaker 1: R.A. Dickey won the Cy Young. Yeah, he was probably
19:03
Speaker 1: the last one, wasn't he? I would think. Yeah, I
19:05
Speaker 1: would think. I can't think of a different one.
19:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bygone era. Well, people don't throw fork
19:09
Speaker 3: balls anymore or the drop ball anymore. I think we
19:12
Speaker 3: should bring the spitball back more.
19:14
Speaker 5: Yeah.
19:14
Speaker 2: You think the Ephesus guys are watching too much of.
19:18
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year? Might be. I think they are.
19:20
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking. Float it. Float it.
19:22
Speaker 4: Yep.
19:23
Speaker 1: How do you solve this? We don't know. He's my client.
19:26
Speaker 3: When we come back, Scott Dolphin's going to be here.
19:28
Speaker 3: It's halftime of the Tuesday edition of the Huddle, Fox
19:30
Speaker 3: Sports Radio, Wisconsin. Drew Billion-Armond huddled up on a Tuesday,
19:37
Speaker 3: bringing it to you, trying to cleanse the palate after
19:40
Speaker 3: a 17-3 Cubs victory over the Brewers last night at
19:43
Speaker 3: Wrigley Field. We are joined by our halftime correspondent, Scott Dolphin.
19:45
Speaker 3: We're halfway through today's program.
19:47
Speaker 1: Hello, Dolph. Hi, fellas. My wife is is a principal.
19:51
Speaker 5: They're getting ready for the school year yesterday, so they
19:52
Speaker 5: were working hard.
19:53
Speaker 1: She didn't get home until late. We had a late dinner.
19:55
Speaker 5: I checked my phone. I was going to go watch
19:56
Speaker 5: the game, and it was already 6-0. I'm like, nope,
19:58
Speaker 5: ain't going near that.
19:59
Speaker 1: That's right when I checked out.
20:01
Speaker 3: I watched it to that point, and then I said,
20:04
Speaker 3: this isn't going to end well.
20:05
Speaker 1: Just shut her down.
20:06
Speaker 5: Before I went to bed, I clicked on and Andrew
20:09
Speaker 5: Vaughn was on the mound. I went, nope, not watching
20:11
Speaker 5: that either.
20:11
Speaker 1: Don't need that one either. And that's what we've been
20:13
Speaker 1: talking about.
20:14
Speaker 3: Because my dear friend Andy in West Bend, he's been
20:19
Speaker 3: bitching about this for a while. He thinks teams should
20:21
Speaker 3: just forfeit. It's an affront to baseball. You carry 13 pitchers.
20:25
Speaker 3: Now you're going to add a pitcher because it's September 1st.
20:27
Speaker 3: And he's like, this is a joke. And It used
20:31
Speaker 3: to be cute when a position player would pitch.
20:33
Speaker 1: We've talked about it. It's added levity.
20:34
Speaker 3: It's a sting out of an embarrassing loss. It was
20:37
Speaker 3: something everybody would watch. It's happening now. You focus on
20:40
Speaker 3: your team in the major leagues, but it's happening somewhere
20:43
Speaker 3: in the major leagues almost every night. And guys have
20:45
Speaker 3: gone from trying to throw 75 and sink it, try
20:48
Speaker 3: to get guys out, trying to break bats to lobbing Ephus.
20:51
Speaker 1: High arc. Yeah, and it's become, it's almost unwatchable.
20:55
Speaker 5: I saw the stat yesterday, or this morning when I
20:57
Speaker 5: was reading up on this, in 2013, 14 position players
21:01
Speaker 5: pitched in Major League games. Last year, it was up
21:03
Speaker 5: to 130-some, and it's only going to go up from here, right?
21:07
Speaker 5: Because that's how we manage our bullpens nowadays.
21:09
Speaker 3: We were saying, yeah, that's what, and counsel told me that, like,
21:11
Speaker 3: four or five years ago, like the analytics guys say
21:13
Speaker 3: we should do it more often. Cause they think you're
21:15
Speaker 3: not coming back down three runs in the eighth. So
21:17
Speaker 3: you might as well just throw a position out there
21:19
Speaker 3: and save the leverage.
21:21
Speaker 2: Well, and it's, it's gotta be interesting for baseball guys,
21:24
Speaker 2: like a, like a Murph or a council who grew
21:26
Speaker 2: up in it to have the guy, the number guys
21:28
Speaker 2: do the crunching of like, Hey buddy, you are tied
21:32
Speaker 2: here in the eighth inning, not winning. You're down one
21:34
Speaker 2: run here in the eighth inning where a baseball guy's like, yeah,
21:36
Speaker 2: we've bloop and a blast and we're in.
21:39
Speaker 1: The lead here.
21:39
Speaker 2: They're like, no, you got to go with your C-team bullpen.
21:42
Speaker 2: Let's punt to the next night because you're most likely
21:44
Speaker 2: going to lose. Those probabilities have had to have changed
21:47
Speaker 2: and had to have been tough for them to crack into.
21:49
Speaker 3: It's the card counting. It's the analytics and the card counting.
21:52
Speaker 2: Because a lot of those decisions are basically out of
21:55
Speaker 2: their hands now, aren't they? A lot of them are
21:56
Speaker 2: almost made. Well, they get recommended probably. Yeah, made by
21:59
Speaker 2: the front office in a spreadsheet.
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Speaker 4: It's like they want to win too. So it's like, well,
22:03
Speaker 4: let's do the best strategy for winning.
22:05
Speaker 5: Was it Bregman that said last night you'd wouldn't be
22:08
Speaker 5: surprised if in the new cba this something gets changed
22:11
Speaker 5: because right now the rule is what you have to
22:13
Speaker 5: be down more than.
22:14
Speaker 3: Eight yeah down more than eight yeah there is they
22:17
Speaker 3: changed it to make it more restrictive but it seems
22:20
Speaker 3: like teams are just using it more yeah it's like
22:22
Speaker 3: and and it is you in baseball you tend to
22:25
Speaker 3: focus on your own team but it's happening you look
22:27
Speaker 3: around and Last night, a Twins guy hit his first
22:30
Speaker 3: big league homer off a position guy.
22:32
Speaker 1: It's happening, and Lara did that. Lara did that, too.
22:34
Speaker 1: It's happening more and more. We did this with bunting
22:35
Speaker 1: and the shift, and I know baseball culture.
22:37
Speaker 4: The reality is you have to legislate it because teams
22:40
Speaker 4: will do whatever they can do to what information they
22:44
Speaker 4: have that will help them get a winning edge.
22:46
Speaker 1: And this is one of those things.
22:47
Speaker 4: So unless you want teams to stop trying to win,
22:50
Speaker 4: it is what it is. If you want to fight
22:51
Speaker 4: a baseball culture war and you want your own team
22:53
Speaker 4: to do it, that's fine. But if it's not going
22:55
Speaker 4: to help your team win... You shouldn't want that either.
22:58
Speaker 5: It's not going to go away like the shift did,
23:01
Speaker 5: but they have to find a way to make it
23:04
Speaker 5: not be so ridiculous like it's been.
23:06
Speaker 1: Although, I love Murph's comment last night.
23:07
Speaker 5: He said, you know, we're not trying to make the playoffs,
23:10
Speaker 5: I'm paraphrasing here, on run differential.
23:13
Speaker 1: You know, we don't care. It has nothing to do
23:15
Speaker 1: with run differential. That's the thing. You have to accept
23:17
Speaker 1: that now. So Andrew Vaughn gave up 17, or seven runs,
23:20
Speaker 1: so it's 17 instead of 10.
23:20
Speaker 4: Right.
23:25
Speaker 3: It kind of used to be a gentleman's agreement that
23:27
Speaker 3: when you're up a lot, you weren't trying too hard
23:29
Speaker 3: as an offense. There's a point where you don't steal
23:31
Speaker 3: bases anymore. And that's kind of gone out the window.
23:34
Speaker 5: The Yankees and Red Sox the other day had an
23:37
Speaker 5: issue with that.
23:37
Speaker 4: I was just going to say the Yankees-Red Sox game.
23:39
Speaker 4: Jazz Chisholm and the, what was it? Will, what was
23:42
Speaker 4: his name? The broadcaster.
23:43
Speaker 1: Will Fleming. Will Fleming, yeah. Just absolutely roasting him. Bush
23:47
Speaker 1: league player. He stole second and third.
23:49
Speaker 4: He said, let's just say it like it is.
23:51
Speaker 1: He doesn't play the game the right way. All right,
23:53
Speaker 1: moving on.
23:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was kind of like the gentleman's agreement where
23:56
Speaker 3: you'd go up there and not try too hard. If
23:58
Speaker 3: you swung from your heels or you swung hard and
24:01
Speaker 3: you almost fell down at a pitch and you're up
24:02
Speaker 3: at 10 runs, you'd definitely be wearing it.
24:04
Speaker 1: That's what our 414 texter said.
24:06
Speaker 2: Not sure the position player pitching is worse than what
24:08
Speaker 2: I saw at a U12 game this weekend where a
24:10
Speaker 2: coach was trying to steal home up 10 runs and
24:13
Speaker 2: his kids were throwing tantrums, stomping at first base when
24:17
Speaker 2: they got a walk.
24:17
Speaker 1: That's a different problem. Yeah, that's a whole different discussion.
24:21
Speaker 4: But it goes back to the thing where it's like, well,
24:24
Speaker 4: if the other team waves the white flag, I will too.
24:26
Speaker 3: But otherwise, I mean... The kid, the coach in... Lost
24:30
Speaker 3: to Curacao, and he's just saying, hey, body language is important.
24:33
Speaker 3: Hold your heads up high.
24:35
Speaker 1: Nevada. Don't get on each other. Keep enjoying it. Have
24:38
Speaker 1: some fun. Don't get on each other. Yeah, that was
24:40
Speaker 1: a great little speech. But you could always say it
24:41
Speaker 1: goes both ways.
24:42
Speaker 4: If you don't want a guy stealing 7-1, up 7-1,
24:45
Speaker 4: then why are you bringing your infield in? Why are
24:47
Speaker 4: you strategizing to play better if you don't want the
24:49
Speaker 4: other team to do it?
24:50
Speaker 1: Are you still holding runners on? I mean, it's high
24:53
Speaker 1: school football season.
24:53
Speaker 2: They got the running clock after 36 points anyway, but
24:57
Speaker 2: it's the thought of like, hey, we got to keep
25:00
Speaker 2: playing at some point. We're not going to tell the
25:02
Speaker 2: guys to stop trying.
25:03
Speaker 1: Play the right way.
25:04
Speaker 2: That's the other part for baseball guys. I don't know
25:07
Speaker 2: exactly where the angle was for Dom of like counting
25:10
Speaker 2: the stats and things like that because if I'm Bregman,
25:12
Speaker 2: I'm walking up with two bombs tonight. You better believe
25:15
Speaker 2: I'm trying to hit that thing onto Waveland Avenue if
25:16
Speaker 2: he's going to throw a 40-mile-an-hour ether.
25:18
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, sure. Sure, absolutely.
25:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had a night. I was surprised that nine
25:24
Speaker 5: was a record for the Cubs. Nine home runs in
25:26
Speaker 5: a game?
25:27
Speaker 1: That's a record for just about anybody.
25:28
Speaker 4: Well, just because of that many games you're playing in
25:31
Speaker 4: general in the history.
25:32
Speaker 5: In the history of the franchise, yeah. I thought maybe
25:34
Speaker 5: they had more. Especially if the wind's blowing out at Wrigley.
25:37
Speaker 1: If it's humid and hot and the wind's blowing out
25:39
Speaker 1: at Wrigley, you can get them. It's hard to hit
25:41
Speaker 1: nine homers, though, man. It is. But ironically, Pete Kramstrom
25:44
Speaker 1: had a quiet night last night. He did. Yeah, we
25:47
Speaker 1: were worried about how they were going to get him out.
25:48
Speaker 1: He ended up being the only guy they could get out.
25:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were saying maybe they should just put up
25:53
Speaker 3: a screen and let Ed Cedar or Marcus Hannell or
25:55
Speaker 3: some batting practice pitcher throw BP because they probably fare
25:59
Speaker 3: better than the guys that are throwing Ephus pitches, right?
26:01
Speaker 5: It would be more watchable. Those guys would never say it.
26:05
Speaker 5: I don't know that more watchable is.
26:06
Speaker 1: The right word. I don't know that I'd be watching that.
26:09
Speaker 1: The slow pitch softball thing is not to me. It's
26:11
Speaker 1: just not.
26:12
Speaker 5: No, maybe a run rule is the thing they should
26:14
Speaker 5: think about. I don't know if we ever would.
26:16
Speaker 1: Dolph's a Yankees fan, and we're old enough to remember
26:18
Speaker 1: Dave LaRoche.
26:20
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
26:20
Speaker 2: The lob.
26:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
26:22
Speaker 5: Yeah, remember Mike Boddicker had the, what was it, the Foshball,
26:25
Speaker 5: they called it.
26:26
Speaker 1: Foshball, yeah.
26:27
Speaker 4: I guess if it's bothering that many fans and people,
26:29
Speaker 4: it doesn't bother me. There's a lot more things in sports,
26:32
Speaker 4: and trust me, a lot bothers me, that bother me
26:34
Speaker 4: more than this one.
26:35
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
26:36
Speaker 3: Cubs had 20 hits, and you know how baseball works.
26:39
Speaker 3: Tonight they might get two or three.
26:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, right. It could be a very, very quiet night.
26:42
Speaker 3: But they are facing another lefty, and it's like, Brewers
26:44
Speaker 3: just need to, it'd be nice to have a better
26:46
Speaker 3: competitive game going into Miz's outing on Wednesday night.
26:49
Speaker 2: Well, in the biggest thing is you, you got to
26:51
Speaker 2: figure something out here with Kyle Harrison, because this is the,
26:54
Speaker 2: the velocity dip is a real thing now. And, uh,
26:58
Speaker 2: when you trade it for Dustin may, I think we
27:00
Speaker 2: immediately wondered that he was going to take over Logan
27:02
Speaker 2: Henderson spot potentially in that playoff rotation. Well, Henderson's the
27:06
Speaker 2: two now, and it might be a duke out between
27:09
Speaker 2: both of those guys who neither have fared very well
27:11
Speaker 2: the last three weeks.
27:12
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, Kyle Harrison was almost a sure thing
27:15
Speaker 5: for the first couple months of season.
27:16
Speaker 3: You're like, wow, what a steal this has been. I
27:18
Speaker 3: bet Ashby's not stretched out. I'd rather see him out there.
27:20
Speaker 2: He probably will start a game. Let's call it what
27:23
Speaker 2: it is. He's most likely starting a playoff. Ashby and
27:25
Speaker 2: Patrick twinning?
27:26
Speaker 1: Yeah.
27:28
Speaker 2: Aaron Ashby is going to be pitching. If he's not
27:30
Speaker 2: pitching in every single playoff game, he's probably starting one.
27:32
Speaker 2: I mean, McGill started last year.
27:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
27:35
Speaker 3: We've seen teams, and that's the flip side of it
27:38
Speaker 3: is the pitching side of it. We've seen teams do
27:42
Speaker 3: that with openers. You see bullpen games not only in
27:47
Speaker 3: playoff series, sometimes elimination games, we're doing a bullpen game.
27:50
Speaker 3: A lot more in playoff games. The council start that.
27:54
Speaker 3: He was a forefather.
27:55
Speaker 1: They pushed it. They definitely pushed it.
27:56
Speaker 2: You say the Rays maybe were a tick above before
27:59
Speaker 2: them just because they were in the playoffs maybe.
28:00
Speaker 1: A little bit.
28:02
Speaker 3: Because today's September 1st, too, that opened up a thing
28:06
Speaker 3: where they've limited it.
28:06
Speaker 1: It used to be 40, man. You'd go to 40. Oh,
28:08
Speaker 1: it was fun. Oh, God. The games were like four hours. Oh,
28:11
Speaker 1: so many substitutions. It was like spring training. Everyone came up.
28:15
Speaker 1: There's so many uniform numbers.
28:16
Speaker 3: Doug Melvin used to rail against that because he's such
28:17
Speaker 3: a visionary. He used to say, like, this is kind
28:19
Speaker 3: of dumb that it's a different game when you have
28:22
Speaker 3: that many pitchers.
28:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
28:23
Speaker 1: I should do that in the first month of the season.
28:25
Speaker 3: Go back to early council when he was using that
28:26
Speaker 3: like a Stradivarius playing his bullpen and doing matchups before
28:30
Speaker 3: they had to face three guys.
28:33
Speaker 1: Okay. So, but they changed that.
28:35
Speaker 3: And Doug Melvin's thing was, if you're in the pennant race,
28:38
Speaker 3: you're playing your main guys and it's like, you're playing
28:40
Speaker 3: 25 against 40, right? Cause you were at a disadvantage
28:44
Speaker 3: because the teams that were looking at kids had, could
28:47
Speaker 3: burn through arms. They had disposable arms, like unlimited bullpen
28:50
Speaker 3: arms in a series.
28:51
Speaker 1: So it adjusted series. He's like, He said that we
28:53
Speaker 1: should have.
28:54
Speaker 3: The expanded rosters in April when everybody's still getting up
28:57
Speaker 3: to speed and in September play it straight. Cause that's when,
29:01
Speaker 3: and teams that weren't in it, there was like a
29:03
Speaker 3: gentleman's agreement that you're supposed to play your, your top
29:05
Speaker 3: line guys, not look at kids. And if you're, if
29:07
Speaker 3: you're facing a team that was in the, that was
29:09
Speaker 3: playing for something, but guys, they.
29:11
Speaker 2: Would, I was going to say, but I remember that
29:13
Speaker 2: off the tigers in the last week in 18, I
29:15
Speaker 2: think they threw three triple a guys against the brewers.
29:18
Speaker 3: And they would blow that off. And so it's just
29:20
Speaker 3: a tough thing to manage, but it is changed.
29:23
Speaker 1: What is it now?
29:23
Speaker 4: 27.
29:23
Speaker 1: Yeah.
29:24
Speaker 2: You get one hitter, one pitcher. So it goes from
29:29
Speaker 2: 26 to 28.
29:30
Speaker 1: 28. So you got 28 going.
29:31
Speaker 3: And if you have a doubleheader or something like that.
29:33
Speaker 1: Then you'll still get the extra 29. That's got it.
29:35
Speaker 1: Or one of those marquee games or whatever, right? Which, yeah,
29:39
Speaker 1: I had no clue. that was a rule. So I
29:40
Speaker 1: think the Brewers, well, they added... I like that it is.
29:42
Speaker 3: They got Uribe, and then they put Wilson on the aisle,
29:45
Speaker 3: and then... They'll bring up a pitcher and probably nailer today.
29:48
Speaker 3: I was going to say, hopefully Romero's ready today. I
29:51
Speaker 3: knew he was going to probably need one more.
29:52
Speaker 5: Wouldn't that be nice to get that guy who we
29:55
Speaker 5: were excited about when they made the trade?
29:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.
29:57
Speaker 1: And another lefty. I mean, you're stacked up in that
29:59
Speaker 1: bullpen with lefties right now. Pretty good. Not going to.
30:02
Speaker 2: Necessarily help you in this series for sure. But yeah,
30:05
Speaker 2: the way Hall's pitching Ashby, like they're going to be very,
30:07
Speaker 2: very set from that side.
30:08
Speaker 1: If we lose three out of four and the lead
30:10
Speaker 1: goes to what? Six. Are we nervous? Uh, I don't
30:14
Speaker 1: think I'm nervous yet at six. We were doing the math.
30:17
Speaker 3: If the Brewers go 12-12 in the next 24, regardless
30:20
Speaker 3: of what happens against the Cubs, the Cubs have to
30:23
Speaker 3: go 19-5.
30:24
Speaker 1: Okay. That's going to be tough to do. So that's
30:26
Speaker 1: tough to do.
30:26
Speaker 5: So it's like the math is the math. The Cubs
30:28
Speaker 5: have some incentive here. They're tied with the Phillies right now.
30:31
Speaker 5: And the Phillies will not lose.
30:34
Speaker 2: 14-16 as they beat Arizona last night in Cattell Marte's
30:37
Speaker 2: return that everybody was very excited for there in Arizona.
30:40
Speaker 3: One of the weirdest stories in sports. And then he
30:42
Speaker 3: had a press conference pre and post and it was like,
30:45
Speaker 3: And it made the Sean Watsons almost look good. It
30:49
Speaker 3: was a rough spot. He got booed lustily by the
30:52
Speaker 3: home crowd. And maybe if he had had a couple hits,
30:54
Speaker 3: they might have turned to cheers, right? Yeah, it definitely
30:56
Speaker 3: could have helped.
30:57
Speaker 2: And then he had a hat on in the postgame
30:58
Speaker 2: presser that said, let the bridges I burn light the way.
31:03
Speaker 1: I mean, that is a good quote. I like that.
31:05
Speaker 1: It's a great quote. It's a bar.
31:07
Speaker 2: Makes sense why they're selling hats with it on there.
31:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I might put that in downtown, girl. I'm not
31:12
Speaker 1: really sure, but... That's a lyric. Could be a good
31:14
Speaker 1: bar for you. Yes.
31:16
Speaker 4: You got to have a special level of lack of
31:18
Speaker 4: self-awareness to do that, but that's what you do. If
31:21
Speaker 4: you can just bail on your team without telling anybody
31:23
Speaker 4: for a week, they had a great shot in a
31:25
Speaker 4: different world, man.
31:26
Speaker 2: They had a great shot of him sitting in the
31:28
Speaker 2: dugout and he's looking there just kind of confused. And
31:32
Speaker 2: right there on the dugout wall is the talking stick casino. Oh,
31:37
Speaker 2: advertisement right there as that was where he was right
31:40
Speaker 2: where they were playing the game a week ago.
31:41
Speaker 4: You almost feel bad for that unsupportive. How can you
31:44
Speaker 4: be confused on why they're doing this? You bailed on
31:46
Speaker 4: their team when they're in a pennant race.
31:48
Speaker 1: Well, not really, but like a playoff race. I guess
31:51
Speaker 1: they are. What are you confused about?
31:53
Speaker 4: But there's shows that disconnect some players with fans and
31:57
Speaker 4: that whole thing and who knows. I guess if you're
32:00
Speaker 4: around Yes Man, I don't know. He's a great player.
32:03
Speaker 4: I don't want to make any accusations about His makeup
32:06
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But it's just weird that you
32:08
Speaker 4: would say, I'm confused on why they would.
32:11
Speaker 1: He's the only one that's confused. I just don't. It's weird.
32:15
Speaker 1: That's very true. Weird deal. At least somebody's confused.
32:17
Speaker 2: He is.
32:18
Speaker 1: No one else is. I don't like booing guys, but
32:20
Speaker 1: that's one spot I can't really blame a fan at all.
32:22
Speaker 5: No.
32:23
Speaker 1: Because you didn't show up for us at all. You
32:25
Speaker 1: got Diamondback fans booing you. Yeah, that's bad. That's a problem.
32:29
Speaker 1: talking they're out in the pool.
32:30
Speaker 7: Yeah not necessarily a ravid time i think they still
32:33
Speaker 7: have the pool yeah they got the pool for sure
32:34
Speaker 7: they do yes and people actually use it like that's
32:37
Speaker 7: the one thing you jacksonville will see again once they
32:40
Speaker 7: get back into their new stadium right because they're going
32:42
Speaker 7: to completely redo everbank stadium for uh for.
32:46
Speaker 1: The jags is the pool staying I think so. But
32:49
Speaker 1: no one really ever goes in the pool up there. Well,
32:51
Speaker 1: it's North Florida. It gets cold there in the wintertime.
32:53
Speaker 1: It gets cold up there.
32:53
Speaker 2: You'll see some in there maybe into a playoff game.
32:56
Speaker 2: They did have a playoff game. They hosted one. But
32:59
Speaker 2: I feel like in Arizona, people are always hanging out there.
33:03
Speaker 2: And you can't tan necessarily, but have a good time.
33:05
Speaker 4: I think teams, when they do these things, it seems
33:08
Speaker 4: like a great marketing idea at first, a great gimmick,
33:10
Speaker 4: a novelty to bring attention.
33:11
Speaker 1: But then they realize... Are we getting the ROI in
33:13
Speaker 1: this space that we could use for seats and Brayden's food?
33:16
Speaker 2: Well, because you've got to make it a premium level,
33:17
Speaker 2: so you're all inclusive if you're going.
33:19
Speaker 1: To be out there. There's a lot of people.
33:20
Speaker 4: It wasn't like a sand, like a beach thing at Jacksonville,
33:23
Speaker 4: or was that like a different pool?
33:24
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of it. Oh, it was elevated up. It's elevated.
33:28
Speaker 1: I think the kids call it the infinity pool, Armand.
33:30
Speaker 1: That's it, yeah.
33:30
Speaker 2: Right?
33:31
Speaker 5: Yeah.
33:31
Speaker 1: There's a sand deal.
33:32
Speaker 4: Maybe it's a college stadium that does sand like a
33:34
Speaker 4: beach and one of their seating arrangements too.
33:37
Speaker 5: Yeah.
33:37
Speaker 1: I don't know.
33:38
Speaker 2: It sounds like big sky college basketball that you're telling
33:41
Speaker 2: me about.
33:42
Speaker 1: It's a football. It could be awesome.
33:43
Speaker 5: You just didn't see the Jacksonville pool unless they made
33:46
Speaker 5: a point to go. But every fly ball at the,
33:48
Speaker 5: what did they used to call it?
33:49
Speaker 1: The Bob. Every fly ball at the Bob, you saw
33:52
Speaker 1: somebody out there in the pool.
33:53
Speaker 4: And then when they would clinch something, the team would
33:55
Speaker 4: jump in the pool and stuff like that.
33:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. That's their version of Bernie Slide.
34:00
Speaker 2: And then you saw the pool in Las Vegas because
34:03
Speaker 2: everyone was just hitting it over. Sure.
34:05
Speaker 1: Right, in that minor league.
34:06
Speaker 4: But even like they wanted to, I mean, they might still,
34:08
Speaker 4: they want to replace that stadium. And they built that
34:10
Speaker 4: in 98. And they were already talking about putting a
34:12
Speaker 4: new stadium in like.
34:13
Speaker 5: five years ago that's what we do now i mean
34:15
Speaker 5: the rangers how long did that thing last 20 22
34:19
Speaker 5: 23 i remember going to that the third year it
34:21
Speaker 5: opened i thought god what a beautiful beautiful ballpark because
34:24
Speaker 5: they they borrowed from different parks around the league they
34:27
Speaker 5: had the yankee stadium facade at that old park in
34:29
Speaker 5: arlington and then 20 years later now it's a little
34:32
Speaker 5: cool kind of.
34:33
Speaker 1: Copied that at their spring training place and surprised.
34:35
Speaker 3: Did they yeah oh kind of looks like that kind
34:37
Speaker 3: of looks like that but yeah that was a park
34:39
Speaker 3: ago It's crazy.
34:40
Speaker 2: And now they have a big park that looks like
34:42
Speaker 2: a Costco from the outside.
34:43
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:44
Speaker 2: I mean, it looks like the biggest Lowe's Major League
34:47
Speaker 2: Baseball has ever seen.
34:48
Speaker 6: Yeah.
34:49
Speaker 1: It's apparently very beautiful outside.
34:50
Speaker 4: And the Braves have done a new stadium every 20 years,
34:52
Speaker 4: I think, right?
34:53
Speaker 1: Today's another day. Dolph, what do you think?
34:56
Speaker 3: You feeling good about the Brewers bouncing back and just
34:58
Speaker 3: turning the page?
35:00
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it, but who knows? Maybe.
35:03
Speaker 3: Feel great if they pitch a clean first inning.
35:05
Speaker 1: That would be nice. Bobby Gasser gets out of the
35:07
Speaker 1: first inning without any damage. I feel better.
35:09
Speaker 5: Who am I to doubt this team, the way they've
35:11
Speaker 5: played this year?
35:12
Speaker 1: They just keep winning series.
35:14
Speaker 2: Pat Murphy got asked last night, how confident are you?
35:17
Speaker 2: Do you have confidence that your boys are going to
35:19
Speaker 2: respond tomorrow?
35:20
Speaker 1: Why would I not have confidence? Why would I not
35:23
Speaker 1: have confidence? I don't know, Skip.
35:24
Speaker 2: You just gave up 20 hits. That might not invoke
35:26
Speaker 2: a lot of confidence. I'm with you, though, Drew. Let
35:28
Speaker 2: me see the first pitch. Let me see how Gasser
35:31
Speaker 2: fires in in the first inning, and then I'll tell
35:32
Speaker 2: you how high the confidence level is.
35:34
Speaker 1: Put up a clean inning there first.
35:36
Speaker 2: Matthew Boyd, Brewers have bashed around like in game one,
35:40
Speaker 2: and then he has thrown a couple of gems.
35:41
Speaker 1: So I think they're going to have a big night
35:43
Speaker 1: here tonight. Jackson, sure. Regardless, with the next two days,
35:46
Speaker 1: you got, what, Miz and Henderson, right? Yeah.
35:49
Speaker 2: You steal one of these before Miz and Henderson. You
35:53
Speaker 2: can easily split the series. Then you only got one
35:55
Speaker 2: to win at American Family Field to win the season series.
35:58
Speaker 1: And that gives you another game that's like shaving a
36:01
Speaker 1: game off. And that might just be the dagger. If
36:03
Speaker 1: you split four and keep the lead at eight, I
36:04
Speaker 1: think the Cubs are toast. Oh, yeah. I think they're
36:07
Speaker 1: toast now. We're talking about what it is.
36:09
Speaker 3: I was telling Billy, like, the dream scenario for me is, like,
36:11
Speaker 3: let the Cubs run the table and then the Brewers
36:12
Speaker 3: win every other game and still comfortably win the division.
36:15
Speaker 6: Right.
36:15
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, you beat us in that little tournament. And, yeah,
36:19
Speaker 3: I don't even think the Cubs think they're going.
36:20
Speaker 2: To win the division.
36:22
Speaker 1: Intellectually, they don't. It's a crazy long shot.
36:23
Speaker 2: I think they're probably watching the Phillies, especially after this
36:26
Speaker 2: is all over and this series is in the rearview mirror.
36:29
Speaker 2: They're going to be focused more on the Phillies.
36:31
Speaker 5: Their score, we're watching Philadelphia. With all the wild cards now,
36:34
Speaker 5: I forget. So if you're the top wild card, you host.
36:38
Speaker 1: The second wild card. The second wild card. Okay, thank you.
36:40
Speaker 1: That's going to be fun. That'd be a hell of
36:42
Speaker 1: a series, too.
36:43
Speaker 6: Yep.
36:43
Speaker 2: And that's a heck of a difference going to Citizens
36:45
Speaker 2: Bank or Wrigley. Dolph, thanks for popping in.
36:48
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
36:48
Speaker 3: As always, halftime is over. Let's make our adjustments, eat
36:51
Speaker 3: an Uncrustable, and get back after it. Hunter joins us
36:54
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. That's going to be a hot one. Who
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Speaker 2: How about the sweet little chalkboard signs that you have
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Speaker 4: Oh.
37:36
Speaker 1: The folks selling those on Pinterest.
37:38
Speaker 3: My social feed's full of first day of school stuff
37:41
Speaker 3: and the college move-ins. Tis the season now. We were
37:44
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37:46
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:47
Speaker 3: Remember, you'd get long-sleeved flannels and stuff for the fall,
37:50
Speaker 3: and mom would want you to wear your new stuff.
37:51
Speaker 1: It's hot, mom. Mom, I'm dripping. Mom, 90 degrees out.
37:56
Speaker 2: The worst was as a private school kid for the
38:03
Speaker 2: first couple of years, for the first few years of
38:05
Speaker 2: my life, the uniforms. Because them things from the uniform
38:09
Speaker 2: store that you had to buy them from because you
38:12
Speaker 2: couldn't just get damn things at Kohl's, or they made
38:15
Speaker 2: clothes that were for normal human beings in the Husky
38:19
Speaker 2: department at the uniform store, that stuff had to have
38:22
Speaker 2: been the thickest material of ever.
38:25
Speaker 1: All time.
38:26
Speaker 2: There's no way that stuff wasn't ripple threaded or whatever.
38:30
Speaker 1: It could have told me it was wool. Probably was
38:33
Speaker 1: to keep it durable for wearing every day.
38:36
Speaker 2: And guess what? I ripped that stuff every year. Every
38:39
Speaker 2: single year, it was without question. One of the first
38:42
Speaker 2: few days of school, your boy was going to come
38:44
Speaker 2: back with those cool uniform pants.
38:46
Speaker 1: The khakis just shredded at the knee.
38:49
Speaker 2: And my mom just so mad because I just ripped
38:51
Speaker 2: up the $ 60.
38:52
Speaker 1: Pair of uniform pants. We were playing football. I played
38:55
Speaker 1: football at recess. He didn't think I was going to
38:57
Speaker 1: die for the end zone. There's only one way to play.
39:00
Speaker 1: We had one speed. He had to go.
39:02
Speaker 2: We have the big pictures today for the first day
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Speaker 2: of school. So it's going to be a big one.
39:07
Speaker 2: Going to be fun.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize, Drew, that they had to tell people
39:09
Speaker 1: that you had to say goodbye to your kid. You
39:12
Speaker 1: didn't know that? I didn't know that was a thing.
39:15
Speaker 2: I thought everybody would know that you say goodbye. Those
39:18
Speaker 2: parents might be in the not category. Who else would
39:20
Speaker 2: be in the hot category and who's hot, who's not?
39:22
Speaker 2: We've been mentioning the Philadelphia Phillies. They've won 14 of
39:24
Speaker 2: their last 16 games red hot. Who's not hot would
39:29
Speaker 2: be the Colorado Rockets. Looked like they were going to
39:31
Speaker 2: break the schneid. They have caught four straight L's. They
39:35
Speaker 2: lost all four to the Braves, and they're taking on
39:38
Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles last night.
39:41
Speaker 1: The late stages of a 2-1 game. Drifting back.
39:45
Speaker 2: Off a high drive to deep center field off the
39:48
Speaker 2: bat of Jake McCarthy.
39:49
Speaker 1: Looks like they're going.
39:50
Speaker 2: To win the ball game with one on after a
39:53
Speaker 2: Johnston double, but Colton Couser didn't just hit the eventual
39:58
Speaker 2: game-winning base hit, Drew. He robbed a walk-off home run,
40:03
Speaker 2: and the poor Rockies thought they were getting that elusive
40:06
Speaker 2: 53rd win of the year and said, They got walked
40:09
Speaker 2: off on a walk-off home-run robbery. They thought they were
40:13
Speaker 2: about to be celebrating finally at home, and instead they
40:16
Speaker 2: caught a fat L, and Rockies fans are okay. They
40:19
Speaker 2: hold Ls out there quite a bit, but they stay.
40:23
Speaker 2: They will stay in the not category pretty much all
40:26
Speaker 2: the time.
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