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Road to the Draft · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast along with my
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  partners Brian Siegel and Jonathan tally.
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  I am Curtis Wilson in this episode of The Boundary Corner
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  301, South Main Street fellas. How we doing tonight, how we
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  feeling tally. I know how you feeling because
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  we got the Lakers game coming up.
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  I'm nervous. Nervous.
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  He nervous. The Lakers game coming up.
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  The question is, is it on the television somewhere in the room
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  that I can't have it on the television?
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  I'll be yelling and we have a very special guest in the house
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  tonight. So I ain't gonna take no time
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  and energy away from this man because he's putting in some
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  work right now. And we ain't going to even worry
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  about the Lakers. We didn't let it be with his
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  going to be. We gonna let it be what is going
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  to be. We got a big night ahead of us.
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  Y'all later on tonight. Our buddy coach Robbie
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  companies, done. Join us.
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  Talk about the coaching Clinic he attended down in Blacksburg a
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  few weeks ago, along with Will Spring preview or spring game
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  preview, excuse me. But tonight to start it off with
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  very special guests. So glad we got this young man on
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  Tomorrow, Connor, 2018. Poke commits from Trinity
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  Christian Academy from Duvall in Jacksonville, Florida.
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  What do you say? Brian number one.
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  Number one in your hearts. Number one in the the program
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  here, double whatever. Way we welcome on tonight.
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  Tomorrow. Connor, yeah.
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  How's it going tonight? Some are you doing good man?
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  Yeah, I'm doing good, very good. Also, the pleasure to have you
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  on. First of all we want to shout
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  out a, thank you for taking the time out of your day.
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  We know how busy you are right now.
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  You he was telling us on his as we were getting them in here
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  that he's been doing a ton of Zoom calls with a ton of teams
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  from the NFL, so, congrats on that.
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  I'm gonna shout out. One more Travis.
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  Travis Wells was nice enough to help us out to get you on, man,
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  and I'm going to shout out. Has he been really good to us
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  over the past about nine months? So shout out to him as well.
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  But let's talk about you man. I mean Senior Bowl, combine had
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  a great showing their Pro days, Zoom calls.
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  Where have you been training in preparation for all this stuff
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  you know after effectively you know the season ended back in
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  December? Oh well for me like soon as the
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  season ended probably like early December, I went straight.
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  Pensacola and started working with EXO's at their facility.
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  Then I worked there all the way through.
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  So have you been working down there with any other Hokies?
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  Or is it mostly been kind of you and other select group of other
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  folks that got that call down there?
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  No, it was just me as far as dating tip.
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  But it was a lot of different guys from different programs.
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  A lot of different job prospects.
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  So it was it was fun working out with those guys.
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  It was a great environment, very competitive.
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  Right man, we just have flying anything.
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  It just kept working. Let me ask this.
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  He was the, he was the player that down there, that kind of
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  pressure you the most, during that course of that.
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  There's trainings pressing me the most actually, I said,
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  probably it's a corner from Purdue not in court.
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  Trish, we did a lot of competing against each other with this
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  franchise in the weight room, just a lot of different stuff.
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  That's what's up, man. I know you've been busy, we know
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  you've been working hard. I guess.
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  You know what, I have to ask for you is you know, during this
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  during your pre-draft workouts and stuff.
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  What's been your main focus and has that focused kind of change
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  with the different stages you've been going through?
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  Yeah, it definitely it definitely changed with the
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  stages at first. You knows all focus on getting
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  ready for the 40-yard dash are that was focused on 40, 40, 40
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  sold. After I ran the four-day to come
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  by, I kind of, I kind of start preparing for the 40 and just
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  start again, trying to get prepared for, you know, real
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  life football. Not just the drills and things
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  like that, but the absolutely get ready to go and play
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  football. So we do you like to hit.
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  We don't watch you play a long time.
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  We know you like to come down hill and hit but you brought up
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  the 40. Did you did you run about what
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  you I mean because but you're in a 45, right?
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  Yeah, 45. Run about what you think you was
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  gonna run. It was you faster than you
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  thought? No, I ran.
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  I ran about what I thought I was going around.
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  I wanted to run into like the how 44 is that's what I was
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  hoping for. I didn't run you the whole time
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  training but I was just hoping for it but this was 450. 450 is
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  about where I was. When I was at the whole time you
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  go there you go. Deal deal.
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  And I mean throughout this process feel like the buzz
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  around you is kind of grown a lot leading up to the draft and
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  it started out with that performance at the Senior Bowl.
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  What was that week? Like for you?
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  I know they have you going through a lot of different
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  practices for a few days and then you kind of get to the
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  game. What was that like for you?
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  That was the long way that was a normal time week but it was fun.
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  It was a fun week met. A lot of great people.
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  It was it was real fun to go out there and compete against all
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  the guys around from different teams around the country.
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  So those great be just being able to compete against guys and
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  and just go out there and show what I can do.
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  Did it, did it kind of remind you a little bit of like what it
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  was like back in like like scouting camps when you were
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  kind of getting recruited with a similar type of energy, or was
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  it, was it a different level of energy?
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  There it was, it was kind of like that.
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  I say that I said the combine was more more so like that but
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  the seeable it was it was more. It was more soldiers everything
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  oh no just so busy like that so much stuff going on.
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  Well, let's talk about the combine a little bit because the
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  combine, you know, over the last really five years, it's become a
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  huge event. I mean, big event for fans,
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  obviously, it's always been a big event for the players out
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  there, tending it and we know you ran to 40, but with that
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  your favorite drill or was there something else there like that?
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  You felt like this shows people. More of what I am as a player or
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  my athleticism but now I see I see some of the positions was
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  definitely was my favorite like that.
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  I actually like the drill. You pedal Flip Flip?
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  Then you like go to the Post. Okay, I say that because that's
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  like I just, I loved like the Deep ball drills.
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  This on it. You can, you can flip, you can
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  move, you can cover ground. So, that was definitely my
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  favorite one. Yeah, and I like hearing that
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  too because, you know, we talk about the the thing so much
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  about all running and the agility, but the reality is you
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  still don't have like football. You still got to know What you
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  just said, like you like a drill that like I have to do this in a
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  game. You have to put my hips and I've
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  got to locate where the ball is and go find it.
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  I love hearing that because it tells me that for you it's more
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  about ball than it is just about, you know, getting in
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  great shape which you always have been definitely, definitely
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  and you mentioned a couple of different drills.
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  Just what you're talking to us about here.
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  Looking at it on TV, of course, it's much different than being
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  there in person like you did. But how much time do you have
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  like between your drills? And if you do have any time down
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  time, what were you doing with that down time?
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  They all kind of bat the bat. So it'll probably be.
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  It's like once you get to position drills, they all better
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  bad. Like you have the 40, then once
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  you move on everything just bad too bad.
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  But with the 40, I see. After the 40 probably had, like
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  10 minutes, like probably like 5 to 10 minutes to get ready for
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  the position drills, then but those are those pretty much
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  better back soon as the last guy got done, we moved on too quick
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  for me. I'm old fat man.
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  Down and back. But okay, okay.
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  Well, Mosers, it was just like you just go through one time,
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  girl. Oh, wow.
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  It's wild. It's just one time.
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  And it's like I like you want to sit here like this is my mom's
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  National career. One time is all you going to
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  give me? Come on now.
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  That's what all that prep down there and I know but I mean
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  salute to you on that, I heard your whole life and I heard
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  whole life. Do it, right?
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  Do it. Like you do it wrong you alone?
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  Yes. I got some kind of pivot away
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  from that for, but what are you had quite a few position coaches
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  during your time in Blacksburg? But most recently it was
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  piercing Prelude, you know? You know, coach spray lube.
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  That's a guy by Youth, Man. Me, Brian.
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  And tally coming up here. That was like the original DBU,
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  man. When he was on those teams in
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  the early 90s, what's something? And I mean, obviously a 14-year
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  career Robbie's talked about him but he's going on later about
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  how long he lasted, he was forever in the league but what's
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  something that you gain from that relationship that you feel
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  like is going to help you on the next level?
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  I learned a lot from Coach P. Just not from this past year
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  over the years, you know, he been at Virginia Tech really
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  since I really like, since I got your brother's a 20-19 been
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  there. So, some nice, a Deft over this
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  past year that he and Pat me, with his, his Energy like you
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  never go see coach Pete with a bad day, he always having energy
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  up and that that really be helping the guys in my room just
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  to, just to show like, we got it, we got a brand new energy
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  today, we always got to be energized.
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  I always gotta be the guys talking on the defense man,
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  typing, everybody up, man. I absolutely love hearing that,
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  man. I love hearing that, you know,
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  because sometimes, you know, every day, you're not going to
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  have your A game. But if you're bringing the
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  energy, Bring positivity. It shows and it feels, you know,
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  I'm sure not only among geology and you're like you said the
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  entire defense, man? I love doing that.
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  Yeah. And I remember we've been a
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  couple guesses on what we've kind of talked about how coaches
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  are on the field. Every time we asked about Coach
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  P, it's always about the energy. That's that's the response we
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  get from everybody. I'm glad to hear it coming from
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  a player not just from somebody that's observing practice.
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  Welcome to here. Let's, let's, let's switch.
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  Gears a little bit here. We're going to talk a little bit
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  of the the 2022 season with you will retrospect, you know,
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  compared to most of your career where you kind of play that
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  hybrid, nickel last season. You were, you kind of used in a
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  lot of new and different ways. You're off the line of scrimmage
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  a little bit more than you have been.
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  In the past occasional, you were holding down the linebacker spot
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  depending on some of the Personnel to that was deployed.
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  You feel that allowed you to play the some of your Different
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  Strings that you had been able to Showcase previously.
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  Yeah, I see it did. Just don't let me go back and
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  play that true say just what I wanted to go back and just show
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  that I can play true safety. Instead of just me Ben a nickel
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  II. Mother gave me like a real
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  versatile player that can play multiple spots multiple
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  positions. So just me being able to show
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  that and initially going into the season.
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  I wasn't even supposed to play nickel at all this year.
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  So what last year? So we had a talk before the
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  season and coach. The move me back, the nickel for
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  a nickel package. And I just, I just took that and
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  just They just bought all in with it.
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  Yeah we can talk you tell that for sure because I mean you know
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  we looked at the season you know the defense definitely was the
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  steadiest unit on the team and you know definitely see your
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  leadership sun shining through there.
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  I know tell he's got something he wants to ask you next I'll
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  let him go ahead here. Yeah.
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  Well before we go to the next point I want the I want to hit
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  you with a little something something today ain't on the and
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  on The Ledger because we again we watch you play man.
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  We fail in just you know fell well yeah, you talk a little
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  trash because you He hit you can hit pretty good, but most of the
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  time when I play with people who can hit like you hit, they talk.
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  So there's some good trash talk there and you from Florida, you
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  talk some trash. Yeah, outside I'll talk a lot of
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  jazz. That's what I got to ask you but
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  kind of going back to what we was talking about with the 2022
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  season, not quite the outcome. That we anticipated all we
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  wanted. But what we've seen is fans you
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  guys stuck together and you fault you know what I'm saying.
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  Every game it seems like we was hanging in.
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  Now we was we was doing what we had to do.
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  All you guys were doing what you had to do to hang in now.
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  Kind of brought it together at the end of the at the end of the
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  season at the Liberty game. Game, what what did you and the
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  other leaders on the team kind of do to keep the team together
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  do through those rough stretches.
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  Um, I still we just tried to stay positive throughout the
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  whole stretch. You know, it was it was real
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  rough losing all those games back to back.
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  So just us trying to stay positive.
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  Just trying to tell everybody to buying with the team.
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  Know everybody pretty much is already bought in so it wasn't.
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  It wasn't that hard to keep the guys together.
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  But I'd ever say just make sure everybody staying positive, no
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  matter how much we losing just keep competing and keep coming
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  back trying again and just trying to try my best to get a
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  dub. Yeah, one thing like I said as a
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  fan man, I didn't get to come to any games this year but I've
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  been to a couple of games. I got to see you guys in person,
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  but watching it on TV, I guess you can kind of tell a from a
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  Fan's perspective you can tell like all men.
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  It looked like you know they gave up, they ain't got no
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  fight. I didn't see very many plays in
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  games where that team especially the defensive unit gave up or
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  didn't have that fighting. So That's what as a fan.
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  Like I said, that's what gets me optimistic about, pretty much
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  the groundwork that you guys laid down the guys just leaving
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  for the people that's coming in. So and we salute you for that.
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  Definitely, you sure appreciates.
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  Yeah, absolutely on that. And I know we were talking the
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  last time I was in lane Stadium, you were playing on the
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  defensive side of the ball, shutting out, pit in the rain
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  for Bud Foster's. Last game back in 2019.
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  And that rain feel you said you told us right before we were
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  chatting it up, you were like You get off the fuel, you were
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  soaked that day, but y'all play the hell of a game.
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  Let me ask this, those kind of pivot away.
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  You've been busting your butt obviously, grinding, getting
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  ready for. You know the draft.
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  I'm coming here in the Hokies have been in, you know, Spring
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  ball, something you went through, obviously, you were as
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  years. Give me one thing you miss about
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  Spring ball and one thing you don't miss about Spring ball.
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  Let me see. I see one thing I miss is
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  probably probably just bending locker room been around all the
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  guys talking trash playing around, whatever death of the
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  been around the team and being around the guys, something that
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  I don't miss. I probably have to say, getting
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  up from practice, but other than that.
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  Yeah, I actually get enough practice, you know, right now
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  I'm kind of, I'm kind of just getting out working out.
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  Are they just at my own pace? So, Definitely the winter
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  workouts worse, or was it the the grind of the spring
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  practice? No, it's definitely winter
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  workouts. Notice what was that was the
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  worst part of winter workouts in for you?
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  Was it just the kidnapper? Was it a specific drill or any,
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  any sort of thing y'all had to do?
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  I see I see the combination of you get nothing to get having to
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  get up at six in the morning and doing all those drills and it
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  cold in door, man, it was crazy, it was crazy.
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  Yeah, I mean you know you went through numerous spring practice
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  during your time at Blacksburg. Let's focus a little bit on the
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  one from last year though. What's something that coach prop
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  put in place for the spring practice and in maybe even
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  spring game last year. That kind of, you feel like
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  helped you most that as you rolled into that 2022, season as
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  a the competition peers that we do like we do.
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  We're in the beginning of every practice will do competition
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  periods. It is to be like one-on-ones
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  wide receivers DB 0 line, versus D line or a to be like angle
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  tackling and it just before are appeared.
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  Before every practice at the beginning, just just to start
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  practice, I'll get practice going.
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  Just everybody do the competition periods offense
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  versus defense. The loser got to do push-ups
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  Yeah, that seems like that was something that the coach prop
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  put in. I know, you know, that was like
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  his informant, if it's from day one, right.
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  Talking about getting more competitive, it kind of started
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  winter workouts and they fed over in the spring practice,
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  right? Yep.
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  Just competition. It was real final.
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  Definitely those one-on-ones just get practiced.
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  One had a whole team height, so it was really fun.
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  I know somebody that likes to talk trash, really enjoys the
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  competition piece, so I bet you were driving in that
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  environment, right? Definitely, man.
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  We know you're busy, we appreciate you definitely for
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  coming out and spending some time with us.
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  But I got to ask, man, I know you getting ready for the draft.
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  Are you going to be in town and Blacksburg for the spring?
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  Game is Aaron B. Just ringing.
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  I probably just ringing but yeah, I definitely there.
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  Okay, cool. 22 in the two out of the three of be that me and
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  Brian to be there. Curtis has some some family
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  duties. You got to take it.
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  Take care of so man I loved it to get up with you and meet you
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  man. Shake your hand.
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  All I asked for for picture ain't gonna be a super firm.
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  You don't say I don't want to take a picture Jamar, is there
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  anybody? I mean, obviously mentioned the
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  gym, you worked out in Pensacola EXO's, anybody you want to give
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  a shout-out to, you know, friends, family, coach
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  businesses. Anybody want to give a shout-out
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  to before we wrap it up here tonight.
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  All right, just give us out of here, buddy, to help me along
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  this journey, all my coaches, all my friends family.
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  Just shout out to those people. That's pretty much it.
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  All your future endeavors, you know, hopefully these two guys
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  will get to meet you. Like they said, I got family
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  duties. I got to take care of them
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  spring game weekend. I wish I could be there in the
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  near future. I will be there in.
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  Like Callie said, I look forward to that time and shaking your
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  hand media chatting it up a little bit with you.
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  So listen, take care of yourself, you know?
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  If you have a, you know, hit us up if you want to.
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  I know you got bronze number there and best of luck to you in
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  the future, man. Yes, sir.
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  Appreciate it. Thank you for having me.
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  We appreciate you, brother. You have a good one camera.
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  All right, thank you. I yeah, we appreciate your
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  Maracana. Coming on with us tonight.
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  What else fun y'all Those good time.
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  You see what color he was wearing, did you?
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  You ain't even got orange. We gotta we gotta get him
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  boundary Corner podcast t-shirt when I get up there this
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  weekend. I promise you that I promise you
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  I'm gonna get all the orange I need.
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  When I get my ass up there, this weekend, good deal.
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  Let's do it. Real quick, Brian.
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  Shout it out for you. Bring Robbie on, Brian and
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  tally, along with some other poke podcasters will be at.
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  Y'all have to tell me who I think is.
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  I know who, but I don't want to miss somebody.
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  So Brian. Who's going to be all there on
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  Saturday. So we got, we got Dan from the
• 23:03
  Terrordome podcast, Tales From The Terror Dome.
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  We got Billy Ray and Pat sons of Saturday.
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  The orchestrator of this whole shebang though is Pete from 2D
• 23:18
  Peak session. Yes there's a shadow.
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  That's all those guys for kind of putting this together.
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  Again Pete was kind of the spearhead of this.
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  We kind of put it together, get gots got a good little run down
• 23:32
  for what we're going to put together for you guys on
• 23:34
  Saturday. It's going to be at Sharkey's
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  11:15 be there is going to be broadcast, over the PA in the
• 23:41
  bar. There we will have a table set
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  up. Probably going to have a little
• 23:45
  little time where we might be able to bring a person here.
• 23:47
  They're also if you want to stop by have a listen, get some
• 23:52
  wings. Get some ribs.
• 23:54
  Get some burgers. You see what Curtis did?
• 23:56
  W scrub with it. Hey I know I ain't no Jew as
• 24:01
  long as Curtis but I'm going to tell you right now.
• 24:03
  If you think you're going to be on that Evan now he's not well
• 24:07
  we've we've already had the conversation, I ain't wasting my
• 24:10
  Sunday to come get him out of Blacksburg.
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  So his wife don't know, guys, I know everybody that watched the
• 24:18
  state of the program. Knows what we're talking about
• 24:20
  but they're gonna be, I think that's what The fifth out in
• 24:27
  three hours once a year. Oh, I'm going to hear that
• 24:30
  Robbie. And now, because Robbie seen,
• 24:31
  you also at your best doing something like that.
• 24:34
  Oh, he come see, what kind he got on to go Robbie.
• 24:41
  The that, that skating program night was quite entertaining
• 24:46
  from my perspective that was Robbie, probably ain't see me
• 24:50
  like that in a good minute if we could use Was it was it probably
• 24:58
  your wedding? He probably was it probably
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  wasn't. I don't know how anybody got any
• 25:04
  kind of shaped at my wedding because you can put it after,
• 25:08
  you can put it in. That's still to this day.
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  The hottest day on record in Virginia.
• 25:17
  I swear it's something about weddings in Virginia Beach
• 25:19
  because we got married in Virginia Beach to and it was the
• 25:22
  hottest day of that year, the AC, when they see reception your
• 25:26
  wedding napkins that we have The tables and they were like using
• 25:32
  likes wet Rags? Or are you trying to warn you,
• 25:35
  when you get mad, your wife going to put you in that box of
• 25:38
  you start acting crazy, you gotta get your mind, right?
• 25:42
  And not so much. The wife is the kids to true.
• 25:44
  I did not drink Evan on my wedding night, so and I'm sure
• 25:47
  my wife is thankful for that. I know she is well, look, we
• 25:51
  bought Robbie on no intro. Just bring him on because we
• 25:54
  were talking having fun. Wait a minute, okay, Robbie
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  come. Often coach Robbie Compton
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  longtime friend of me and Brian coaching up at North Wilkesboro.
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  The Vikings he's got he's into, he's he is in y'all, he is in
• 26:11
  the locker room there. So he's gotten dealing with,
• 26:14
  he's got nothing. You got the jersey in the
• 26:15
  background Jersey, got his, got his high schools go and show
• 26:19
  t-shirt. That's a cool shirt.
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  Y'all got here solely on. Thank you Nicole.
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  We are Vikings of cool but just a few short weeks.
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  Robbie got a chance to go down to the coaching Clinic that we
• 26:36
  all saw a bunch of videos from we heard about, we saw them from
• 26:40
  Odin, it and he is going to not only talk what what he observed
• 26:45
  down there because this is the first time that you have got to
• 26:47
  meet the new staff. I know, we know you have
• 26:49
  relationships all within that staff, but to be back in
• 26:54
  Blacksburg you and Coach, with techie, went down there with
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  you. Head coach are with you, and And
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  I will start off this because one too long ago on when Joe
• 27:05
  Rudolph left, you said it aloud coach crook.
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  You said it keep your eye on poach Crook and unless they do
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  we know you have a history. We know, you know, Derrick
• 27:16
  Jones, we know, you know, Stu, hold fontelle, right?
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  Yeah, complete. But coach mines was a wide
• 27:24
  receiver coach at East Carolina, when I was there.
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  Yeah, well found walks away Greenville.
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  Patient rooms with a Duke and recruited some of our players
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  out there. Coach Price.
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  I've known for a few years. When he was a JMU, he recruited
• 27:43
  a couple of our guys, when I was coaching in Virginia.
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  So I me, I'm right here and Coach Holton backyard, where
• 27:51
  Hannah grew up and where he's bad coach for years.
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  I spent most of the clinic talking, to his dad, with meals
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  and stuff like that, you know, just kind of hanging out with
• 28:01
  what, coach hope the time or two, when he was Rocky Mount.
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  Yeah, we've had two. I've got a few Connections in
• 28:11
  that crowd, I guess. Yes, you do.
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  But I get this feeling that you're kosher their closest
• 28:17
  relationship, maybe with Coach crook.
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  First of all, give us a little bit of the history between, you
• 28:24
  know, how you got to know coach Brooke, and how long?
• 28:26
  Because again, when you said that name out, you know, I'll be
• 28:30
  honest, I didn't know who it was.
• 28:31
  Quickly looked up and saw his track records, like, okay, but
• 28:35
  give us your history and kind of your relationship with him for a
• 28:38
  long years. I met coach crook through my
• 28:42
  head coach, the guy that I've worked with for the last 14
• 28:45
  years, David will Thank you, coach with Becky actually played
• 28:50
  for Coach crook at Glenville State College.
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  It's going to State University now but Coach crooked.
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  One point was at a smaller School Clarion in Pennsylvania
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  and he was in recruited in and they ended up going to Glenville
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  State and they brought his recruitment with them to Global
• 29:13
  State brought him in a seaplane coach and Coach 10, who's
• 29:19
  actually a Wake Forest right now.
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  Those were head coach and offensive line coach when he
• 29:25
  played a Glenville State. For a couple of years and, you
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  know, smaller schools like that with bigger coaches, they tend
• 29:32
  to come in and go, he played with, he played with a few guys
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  that I've made some connections with going to different clinics
• 29:41
  and stuff, which is exactly how I met coach crook at the time.
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  Coach crook. Was that the first time I met
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  him? I think coach Cook, was a
• 29:49
  Harvard or may have been Stanford, and he was coaching
• 29:54
  tight ends at Stanford or Line tight ends at Harvard.
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  He ended up going to Cincinnati. And, you know, we just every
• 30:04
  time we'd run across the middle at a clinic or, or coach, whoa,
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  would call and ask you some questions about different
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  things. Offensive line, wise, run things
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  by and I mean, he's always been there to help with anything we
• 30:16
  needed. So I mean, that's just it's just
• 30:21
  a run across them here and there, you know, coach will call
• 30:24
  them every now and then and get some advice.
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  Yes, and he's always been very open to helping anybody
• 30:31
  especially when it comes to that offensive line game.
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  I mean, he loves it man, it's what he does and it's shown
• 30:39
  throughout his career. And the big thing I knew when
• 30:45
  when I told you guys to watch out for him I knew he'd fit in
• 30:49
  to that program. I knew he and Coach pry had as
• 30:53
  coach price. I said, hey kick somebody saying
• 30:56
  dirty. In West Virginia and Mary is up
• 31:02
  there and in the Northeast. So he had that connection with a
• 31:08
  lot of folks and I knew it was a good possibility especially with
• 31:12
  the type of game that he coaches and how he does things.
• 31:15
  Do you think like based on what you saw as what they were
• 31:20
  reverting to near the end of last season offensive ly?
• 31:23
  Is that another reason you thought him to?
• 31:25
  Because obviously, when he was a NC prions mentioned it.
• 31:28
  You mentioned it. They run a lot of split Zone and
• 31:30
  as as there is, what coating on is probably going to, it's going
• 31:36
  to be a lot of elements of that. That is that answer.
• 31:39
  That's something that I think he's excelled that for many
• 31:42
  years running their the devil, The Zone, his blocking schemes
• 31:49
  and things are very Zone oriented Our offense is built
• 31:53
  off of the same principles that coach crook is going to teach at
• 31:57
  Virginia Tech. We've been running on for years,
• 32:00
  that's what we'll take he believes in because he learned
• 32:03
  it there. And I mean it's I think it's
• 32:07
  going to fit, well it's going to help and you're going to see a
• 32:11
  vast Improvement, I think in the Run game because as we know that
• 32:15
  our POS run-pass option, if you can't run or you can't pass the
• 32:19
  option, a very good. I want to do a little bit off.
• 32:25
  I want to go a little bit off of what we got playing.
• 32:29
  I want to ask you something. I'm just looking at you man.
• 32:32
  You know this is my first time. I didn't seen you tweet a little
• 32:35
  bit out until you put some stuff in the in the chat a little bit.
• 32:38
  This is my first time getting to talk to you, face-to-face.
• 32:41
  I'm trying to figure out what kind of Coach you are.
• 32:44
  There's yourself because like when you go to church, you have
• 32:47
  those pastors that teach their open, the Bible that go, you
• 32:51
  know, this is John 3:16 and for God.
• 32:53
  So loved the world and then they'll teach it to you.
• 32:55
  He and you got the other type pastors and they can we call
• 32:59
  them in the black community. We call them Hooper's.
• 33:01
  That's the one that's in law. Had a we going deep this thing
• 33:05
  right? You know.
• 33:06
  So putting that into the football world.
• 33:09
  Are you think you more of a teacher or Hooper?
• 33:13
  That's what I. Well, I'm going to put it this
• 33:15
  way. I'm a few days away from turning
• 33:18
  40 and I've been His mail. I used to be a chuppah.
• 33:25
  I'm glad you're back to talking about Coach coach crew.
• 33:33
  What kind of Coach do you feel like he is?
• 33:36
  He's the guys are gone. The guys are going to love his
• 33:42
  personality. The way he gives things, he
• 33:45
  takes a great interest in all the guys, he's going to teach
• 33:49
  him. And, and he's just, I'll never
• 33:55
  forget, coach World. Told us one time and we were
• 33:58
  talking to him about it there the week and we were there.
• 34:01
  One of the greatest things that he talked about, he and Coach
• 34:05
  crook said, I don't have any idea what point I was proving
• 34:08
  with that. He said, but I do remember
• 34:10
  saying that something was going on and he just stopped
• 34:13
  everybody. He says, two things boys, you
• 34:16
  don't mess with me. He said my sandals and leave
• 34:20
  Blouson. And when I'm just saying, Brian
• 34:23
  knows I'm talking about meatloaf, I'm not talking about
• 34:26
  the ground beef, getting a product, we're talking about the
• 34:29
  man, the myth, The Legend, and the musician that is meatloaf.
• 34:34
  And basically, I mean, he's kind of Coach, but he's not going to
• 34:42
  take any mess and they're going to do it, right?
• 34:45
  And it's going to be taught. Well, it's going to be taught
• 34:47
  sound, and I think the guys are really good.
• 34:51
  Already. I think the guys already really
• 34:52
  like it and understand what he's going for.
• 34:56
  And now with Coach Davis coming in there to help some to, he's
• 35:01
  doing a lot of things that are like coach, whoa said, you can
• 35:06
  already see some of the things that coach Davis has is talking
• 35:10
  about and looks kind of taking some of those and going.
• 35:13
  Well, that's a little different than I've always done but it'll
• 35:15
  work. So he's going to adapt things.
• 35:17
  He's gonna find what works? And I think you're going to see
• 35:22
  nothing against coach Rudolph, but I think you're going to see
• 35:24
  a big Improvement on, on the product on the field simply
• 35:28
  because some of these guys may be a little more comfortable and
• 35:31
  what's going on and the scheme's, may fit a little
• 35:35
  better. Yeah, I think we've observed
• 35:38
  that last year, just looking at, you kind of had Brad Glenn, that
• 35:42
  it came from a very quarterback Rush heavy background between
• 35:47
  Georgia State appstate. You had what bow Have been doing
• 35:50
  with the more Moorhead style rpos.
• 35:54
  And then you had yeah, Joe Rudolph very much a kind of
• 35:59
  ground-and-pound pro-style Smashmouth offense.
• 36:03
  Yeah, it seemed like sometimes like those philosophies were
• 36:06
  competing with each other at points last year.
• 36:09
  It didn't really seem like we could get into that kind of
• 36:12
  flow. And when I was looking at it, I
• 36:15
  kind of like this this might be something that on paper look,
• 36:20
  Good. Okay, you got Ragland experience
• 36:22
  offensive coordinator at the G5 level.
• 36:24
  You got Joe Rudolph coming in experience offensive coordinator
• 36:28
  at the power 5 level of Wisconsin kind of helping Boeing
• 36:32
  work into being a full-time power five offensive
• 36:35
  coordinator, but it ended up just being too many cooks in the
• 36:38
  kitchen and sometimes yeah things that just didn't always
• 36:42
  mesh. Well as it was kind of coming
• 36:46
  out in the wash and I feel like we do we talked a lot about the
• 36:49
  staff kind of Shuffled around and I feel like ultimately, it's
• 36:54
  a addition by subtraction in some ways where you kind of
• 36:56
  move, you know, you're a guy that you already have on staff.
• 37:00
  That's coach tight ends before back to that position.
• 37:03
  You get Boeing in there and to do spot where he's comfortable
• 37:06
  with guess. He's going to be the engine of
• 37:09
  the offense from a coaching standpoint, where is the
• 37:12
  quarterback would be that you have on the field and then you
• 37:15
  bring in a guy with experience like crook.
• 37:17
  I mean I feel like again we may have some Addition by
• 37:20
  subtraction there in terms of what we were doing last year.
• 37:24
  So I'm looking forward to seeing what that looks like.
• 37:26
  Especially you know, I don't know if we're going to get the
• 37:29
  greatest look. This this Saturday we'll talk
• 37:32
  about that more in a little bit here.
• 37:34
  I'm getting started. Oh they do.
• 37:37
  They'll let's come and they don't get me started.
• 37:39
  They already got me. These two got me started.
• 37:41
  Last night, we chatted for a few minutes.
• 37:42
  They got me started already the world say, I mean, just that it
• 37:47
  was never fully stated. But in talking to some of the
• 37:53
  guys in here and some of them talk, the whole thing is
• 37:57
  switching, offensive line, coach has and things like that there
• 38:02
  was never a bad thing, said, about Coach Rudolph.
• 38:04
  I mean, they were all, they all praised him and the great things
• 38:08
  he did and and what he did for the program and helped out it's
• 38:12
  a. But it almost seems like they're
• 38:16
  excited about going in a direction that they're doing
• 38:18
  with Coach crook. And changing some things up a
• 38:21
  little bit and being a little more productive in the style
• 38:25
  that they want to play. And I think that's going to be
• 38:30
  big. For for the future.
• 38:35
  So I mean, like they said, he's going on to Notre Dame and
• 38:40
  they're going to put together more of what he's used to the
• 38:45
  the big 65, 330-pound road grader, offensive lineman, and I
• 38:51
  think you're going to see, I think you're going to see the
• 38:53
  Hokies go back to a little bit more Zone.
• 38:57
  Little bit quicker, offensive lineman because I had no, I know
• 39:01
  crew. Rook, he's always said his when
• 39:04
  he looks at at high school kids coming into play offensive line.
• 39:08
  He likes the guards that wrestled and the tackles that
• 39:13
  play basketball. He likes those athletic feat the
• 39:17
  way they move hips. He's going to, he's going to
• 39:21
  build double-teams and you know, you don't have to be 330-pound
• 39:27
  man. Squatting 7, 800 pounds to move.
• 39:31
  When you got two of them there and really do some things, and
• 39:37
  it's going to be going to be successful with it.
• 39:41
  I really do. Yeah, I'm looking forward to
• 39:45
  seeing what? Your what differences are?
• 39:47
  I know, we'll probably get a little bit of, look at that, at
• 39:49
  this weekend. Yeah.
• 39:50
  And then, just again, seeing how the line kind of meshes.
• 39:54
  I feel like they were points last year were, you know, one or
• 39:58
  two blocks away from things looking, the way they need to do
• 40:01
  to kind of break break, something to make something
• 40:03
  happen on offense. And I'm looking forward to
• 40:06
  seeing if shifts and scheme shifts of philosophy of the
• 40:10
  coach are our, what can kind of put Those pieces together for
• 40:13
  that, you know, and that's that's what crook has been
• 40:15
  saying is, it's Christmas saying, you know, we got to find
• 40:19
  the five, they can they can do everything the best together.
• 40:23
  You know, it's all you always got to find the 5S ones, but
• 40:27
  when it comes to that offensive line group, they've got to be
• 40:29
  able to work together, the five of them have to be able to work
• 40:31
  together and if the final ones are the five best ones working
• 40:36
  together, then that's what it's gonna be yet, but he's got to
• 40:38
  find them go in together. Well, what I loved that person
• 40:41
  of you, he said jail. Yes.
• 40:44
  Like they got a gel and at me because sometimes you here and
• 40:48
  y'all Robbie's coach getting tallies play.
• 40:50
  Robbie, you coached and played a lot of times.
• 40:53
  I just want to five best. Well, sometimes your five best
• 40:57
  night. I've been at work together the
• 40:58
  best, but if you have five guys who were like I mentioned last
• 41:01
  week, like I know when he goes up, his punch is going to be
• 41:05
  here. I can get my guy and turn him
• 41:07
  and he's getting up to second level.
• 41:10
  Versus I his punch. I don't know where it's coming.
• 41:13
  I don't know, you know, sometimes he punches eyes
• 41:14
  sometime, but when I heard him say gel, it immediately makes me
• 41:18
  think it doesn't shock me. He's got the more Brothers next
• 41:22
  together. He doesn't shot me right there.
• 41:24
  Done shot me that they're together because it will hold on
• 41:30
  to that because we don't get into the preview you and you can
• 41:32
  talk about what he's excited for.
• 41:33
  But um, That that really caught my eye.
• 41:38
  Now, Riley, let's hit on a few other subjects here.
• 41:43
  Ryan won't let you go. We know you didn't miss it.
• 41:46
  Right? Because I know I shared it with
• 41:48
  you but in case you hadn't seen Let It Roll.
• 41:52
  Mr. Siegel will screen time. I want you to make yourself at
• 42:02
  home and be comfortable with our staff.
• 42:05
  In our speakers, don't be afraid to ask questions to interject.
• 42:10
  We want you to do that. Well, it's always been a special
• 42:13
  place and I think there's a connection when you meet these
• 42:16
  coaches, just family. Who is that guy?
• 42:20
  Who's that guy? Yeah yeah, yeah I got to To meet
• 42:35
  coach pry Hill story because maybe 10 minutes after we got
• 42:40
  there, if it was that much we came in and we went through a
• 42:44
  registration and soon as we registered coach, crook grab
• 42:48
  both of them and we've like, come on guys, you got to you got
• 42:50
  to go meet coach cry. He said he said I've been
• 42:53
  telling them about you guys and that you guys were coming.
• 42:58
  And so, I mean, he took us right back there that hand in the side
• 43:02
  there, right in front of Kentucky, that's a coach Kerr.
• 43:06
  He's standing right there with us.
• 43:07
  He took us right back there. I mean, we barely even
• 43:10
  registered, and he took us right back, and like he said, we had,
• 43:14
  they had, that connection coach will take you playing at
• 43:17
  Glanville, coach prize. Mother had even gone the
• 43:22
  Glanville or taught at Glenville.
• 43:24
  I can't remember what he said, but they had that connection at
• 43:28
  and that's when he was telling us he goes, you know, he said, I
• 43:30
  was excited to meet you coach. And he said that from what I And
• 43:36
  we've all kicked some of the same dirt and I kind of like
• 43:39
  that saying, I'm going to keep that one Mubarak for him a
• 43:42
  little bit but he was very down to earth.
• 43:45
  I mean a great dude he anything we needed he said feel free to
• 43:52
  go anywhere you want and call us if you need anything he gave us
• 43:56
  all this phone number and everything so if he has anything
• 43:59
  we need he said he's ready to give us whatever we could do to
• 44:03
  help us. It was Very much like the last
• 44:10
  time or two that I went to Virginia Tech and and that was
• 44:14
  before the last regime was their last game.
• 44:18
  I went to I think was Beamers last season we were, we were
• 44:24
  actually coach will take you and I went we were actually guest of
• 44:29
  we went with our basketball coach at the time we were guests
• 44:32
  or coach Greenberg's and we were In a box with Bruce Smith,
• 44:38
  that's a big human being by the way.
• 44:42
  I don't advise a Virginia Tech game from a box.
• 44:45
  You don't get that same feeling. I was I was more than It was
• 44:52
  more than generous to have me there for that.
• 44:54
  But I think I'll take my chances down any crowding and enjoying
• 44:58
  the, the loudness it was a little quiet, little too quiet
• 45:01
  in that box for me. But what we're talking about,
• 45:04
  you know, listening to Robbie talk, man and I know a lot of us
• 45:08
  fans and Twitter users. We do a lot of talking about,
• 45:14
  you know, I we doing this or what does this mean, why are you
• 45:16
  doing this? Why did it staff doing this and
• 45:18
  things like that. But when you hear, Coach talks
• 45:21
  about all he remembered us. He's we ran into him a couple
• 45:25
  times talking about Coach crook. He remembered us and he took us
• 45:28
  straight to the head coach and being the head coach
• 45:31
  reciprocates. What?
• 45:33
  You've already heard from the coach that, you know, that's a
• 45:36
  relationship. You know?
• 45:39
  And people that do what Robbie does, now I'm in sales and we
• 45:46
  read people to but that those coaching Networks I won't went
• 45:51
  to school to be a physical education, and special
• 45:56
  education, teacher and so a lot of my in football, you know,
• 46:01
  baseball basketball, all that stuff.
• 46:03
  Those networks are very, very close, you know, and those
• 46:06
  people can tell when that stuff is real and when it's just
• 46:10
  fabricated. So to hear somebody, you know,
• 46:14
  gives a give us an inside, look of what you've been going
• 46:17
  through and what you've seen and then again, everybody In this,
• 46:21
  the man said his last game that he was there last time him and
• 46:26
  his coach was there was when bhima was there.
• 46:29
  Man, we went some years. What?
• 46:32
  We've been missing. Some people, we've been missing
• 46:34
  some schools and it ain't just gonna come overnight because
• 46:39
  certain schools may have a 4 star athlete that can make a
• 46:43
  difference at your program once every 10 years.
• 46:47
  But if you ain't checking in with them, people every year,
• 46:50
  you're going to miss That player and that's what we've been
• 46:52
  doing. You know what, why are we going
• 46:54
  now? Why does he know him?
• 46:55
  And why is he shaking hands with them?
• 46:57
  Because you they may not have somebody, they school.
• 46:59
  They may say, hey coach, we played this kid, the Robbie can
• 47:02
  tell us this hey we played this kid at Bumfuck and he's the best
• 47:07
  I've ever seen. Y'all need to go check him out.
• 47:10
  You know. Now I know that we got some
• 47:12
  players that may be going to J mu, or we may have some players
• 47:16
  just going to, you know, Norfolk State but we played this kid and
• 47:20
  he He's a Virginia Tech player, he's a powerful I put it so.
• 47:25
  Well as coaching networks is what I feel like the staff has
• 47:28
  been trying to build yet in fans get so impatient even myself,
• 47:35
  you get so impatient because you thinking like, oh, he's in our
• 47:38
  backyard, we should get him. It don't work like that.
• 47:41
  It just don't product. Hadn't been what we've done
• 47:43
  that, if we don't have a relationships to say, hey, we
• 47:47
  deserve this, this 4 star 5 Star kids.
• 47:50
  So, again, that's just a Lil Bit of a rant, but I'll let Robbie
• 47:53
  go back from kind of touch on that a little bit longer.
• 47:55
  I'll say this to, you can't be a man or Worse program and not
• 47:59
  have relationships in your backyard.
• 48:03
  Like if you if you if you don't build those relationships like
• 48:06
  you need to you better damn well be an NFL Factory and put up 10
• 48:10
  wins every year and we haven't been that program.
• 48:13
  Nope. So that's kind of where it
• 48:15
  starts. I mean I know Robbie could speak
• 48:17
  to this because he coached there as well but you know, looking at
• 48:21
  It, the county next door to where we grew up and about every
• 48:25
  four or five years stud, there was a stunt or too kind of
• 48:31
  coming out of that area. And I don't think it can work in
• 48:34
  the recent years, we've been in the gwas or the day in rivers or
• 48:39
  the Martinsville is or the EC glasses though.
• 48:44
  So I mean, you can't just say okay, well well they only give
• 48:48
  us a decent player, every four or five years.
• 48:51
  Ears and ignore them until that guy pops.
• 48:54
  Can't do it. Don't work that way.
• 48:56
  And that's a painting. Like this.
• 48:59
  This is not anything against our guys here.
• 49:02
  We have nothing to offer, Virginia Tech.
• 49:05
  I don't, I don't have a player on that roster.
• 49:07
  Anywhere, they can play their, I don't, but that relationship,
• 49:12
  and those things, like, if I've got a kid at this, there's a kid
• 49:16
  at the school, you know, next door to us that I think can play
• 49:21
  at that level. I'll call a coach about that
• 49:24
  kid, because as far as I'm concerned, yeah, I'll promote
• 49:27
  our kids, but I'm about promoting kids to the next
• 49:32
  level. The next School.
• 49:35
  Sirs. Get like some, some people
• 49:39
  outside of coaching. Don't understand that concept we
• 49:42
  had when I was in Greenville, we had our biggest rival.
• 49:47
  You know, teams would come there and be like, hey, we're looking
• 49:49
  for tight end. We don't run a tight end, but
• 49:53
  this school over here and that school over there.
• 49:57
  They both have really good tight ends.
• 49:58
  You might want to go check out. I mean, I have again we're
• 50:04
  building the relationship. With a coach right here.
• 50:07
  And because we're into the same thing, we're in the helping kids
• 50:12
  Advance, it's not about what I can provide for him from my
• 50:16
  players, because my players right now can't go there.
• 50:19
  Now, my players five years ago, I'm, I could have seen him a
• 50:22
  couple, right? But you're we're not there yet.
• 50:25
  We're rebuilding the program and we're coming into things.
• 50:29
  Dear Viola has three years and we've We've now put, we put
• 50:37
  together two and five season in the shortened spring we put
• 50:41
  together a three and seven season.
• 50:43
  The first year, I was here full-time and then last year we
• 50:46
  went seven and three can you went to the playoffs?
• 50:49
  Yeah. When he went to the playoffs,
• 50:51
  admit that sound like a Virginia Tech trajectory to me.
• 51:19
  finally getting to talk to you and hear a perspective of
• 51:23
  somebody who is doing this, you know, because we sit around and
• 51:28
  we talk about it all day, we sit around and we tweet about it all
• 51:31
  day, but to hear the perspective of somebody who was in this,
• 51:35
  Field, who is doing this? Who sees this?
• 51:38
  This is what their lifestyle is. This is what the livelihood is,
• 51:41
  it just it's good, man. It's good to hear again
• 51:45
  switching. You know, pivoting a little bit.
• 51:47
  We've talked about prior, we've talked about crook, we know you
• 51:51
  got a long relationship with him so you can't give us.
• 51:53
  Can't give us anything on them. Other other staff members other
• 51:59
  coaches that impressed you at the clinic who you got.
• 52:06
  Coach a Boeing was with I didn't get to sit down and listen to
• 52:10
  him. Be coach will take it.
• 52:13
  I'm a defensive coordinator. I stuck a little bit more to the
• 52:16
  defensive side of the ball. I listened to some of the
• 52:18
  offensive stuff when I got a chance here.
• 52:21
  And there, I listen to coach Cook Top and some things like
• 52:24
  that, but just talking to coach Bowen. dad, you know, he's got
• 52:33
  He's got kind of that Mad Hatter feel that I used to get when I
• 52:36
  talked to Coach Leach, he's, he's very intelligent.
• 52:42
  He's very, um, Barry on top of the game and, and being able to
• 52:47
  be creative and do some things and think about things in a
• 52:52
  little bit different light. And I Got the Feelin him going
• 52:55
  to that quarterback room. He's going to be able to relay
• 52:58
  that through the person that's going to make that offense.
• 53:00
  Run a little bit better than he may have.
• 53:03
  Then he may have been from a different position last year.
• 53:08
  I think that's going to be a big thing and mr.
• 53:13
  Connor talked about it earlier coach Prelude.
• 53:18
  Man, that man is a spark plug and he was one of my favorite
• 53:36
  players when I was younger, watching these teams, but to
• 53:40
  meet him and to get to see him in action and coaching was very
• 53:45
  impressive. Some of the other guys II new
• 53:52
  coach because Jim, yeah, he's you know, his Concepts and the
• 54:00
  things he does is nothing new to me.
• 54:04
  I got to see those things and a whole new light and that was
• 54:09
  pretty cool to see you. Again, it kind of reinvigorates
• 54:12
  me as a coach and a time where I kind of need to push forward a
• 54:16
  little bit. Because here we have a much
• 54:19
  smaller School. Football is a thing that we
• 54:22
  start again really during the summer, we don't get a lot of
• 54:25
  work in during the spring because you know with with 500
• 54:29
  kids at the school, all of our athletes are playing other
• 54:32
  sports every season so it's hard to bring them in and do our
• 54:35
  spring stuff here. We're trying we're doing some
• 54:39
  things, we're getting some younger kids out doing things
• 54:42
  but it ones we're counting on the most are playing baseball
• 54:46
  and running track. And doing things like that which
• 54:49
  will never ask them not to do, right?
• 54:52
  Well, you're doing something right.
• 54:53
  You say you went from one 3 in 3 and 8 to 7 and 3.
• 54:56
  Is there any that right 73? So you doing something right?
• 55:00
  Keeping them keeping it together.
• 55:02
  So, keep doing what you're doing.
• 55:06
  Hold on. You just mentioned some you
• 55:08
  didn't go to the offensive meetings.
• 55:10
  So did you go talk to Chris and sitting in coach Marv?
• 55:15
  I did hear coach marra spoke at the way they did it.
• 55:18
  They split it up at the very beginning.
• 55:21
  You got to hear coach Foster, which was awesome.
• 55:24
  I talked to him before, and I had a couple of kids that I
• 55:29
  coached in Virginia, that they went to Virginia Tech, One
• 55:33
  stayed there for several years and then transferred to
• 55:36
  Winston-Salem State. He was a wide receiver and then
• 55:40
  I had a linebacker that actually played for Coach Foster.
• 55:43
  And then for for some other reasons he moved on to Morgan
• 55:48
  State. So I met coach Foster and talk
• 55:52
  to him before. I had a really good relationship
• 55:54
  with the old defensive line coach.
• 55:56
  They are you still got a relationship with Charlie?
• 55:59
  Yeah. Still do you know what we Coach
• 56:06
  Price? I had that same relationship
• 56:08
  because he would be at, he would be at camps and things that I've
• 56:11
  been to. He recruited that area when he
• 56:13
  was At JMU, but going back to the clinic the those guys first,
• 56:23
  those guys spoke first coach Foster and Coach Davis and then
• 56:27
  it split off. Offensive coordinator spoken,
• 56:30
  one room, and defensive coordinator spoke in the other
• 56:32
  room. And so I would get a defensive
• 56:34
  coordinator room and was much more That's another high-energy
• 56:40
  individual now. And he is he is focused on being
• 56:47
  more high energy, being more violent and or not violent but
• 56:52
  you know him better and getting more pressure and things like
• 56:57
  that. That was a that was a big thing
• 56:59
  throughout the entire defensive. Part of the clinic, is they talk
• 57:04
  about pressure and and attacking and being physical and violent
• 57:11
  with their arms and attacking thing things that I'd always
• 57:15
  heard coach Foster talk about. So you can tell that his coach
• 57:20
  Foster's presence is still there or definitely coming back and
• 57:25
  they're really pushing some things in those in those ways.
• 57:29
  I mean, what three of those Those three or four those
• 57:32
  coaches played for Coach Foster, it's on order.
• 57:36
  I mean, adibi Prelude, price, price Winslow, we've that time.
• 57:50
  So I mean you've got connections to that and I think you're going
• 57:54
  to see more of that physical disruption tight defense and
• 57:59
  it's really going to pick up the pace.
• 58:01
  I thought Played fairly well for the most part last year, but
• 58:04
  it's going to be even, you're going to see, even more this
• 58:06
  year, especially with some of the athleticism I saw from some
• 58:10
  of those guys over there. Any way to talk about that in a
• 58:13
  few minutes here, offensive ly, I snuck into a few things and
• 58:16
  heard some things, but I kind of stuck the defense a lot of it to
• 58:22
  see if I could. I could draw something that I
• 58:24
  could use from for drills and things in practice, even though
• 58:29
  I run a slightly different defense than what they do.
• 58:32
  Some drill work with Still Still translate by position.
• 58:36
  So I can do those types of things.
• 58:38
  What are you running now? Robbie we run a 33, a stack 33.
• 58:44
  If you've ever, if you've watched the NC State play in the
• 58:46
  last couple of years with Coach Gibson, that's it.
• 58:52
  That's what I run. That's where I've gotten a lot
• 58:54
  of information from from coach Gibson.
• 58:57
  He's been a great dude for me He's given me a lot of things.
• 59:03
  He's helped me out a lot that comes with that connection.
• 59:06
  I had from Virginia Tech before and and Coach Wiles.
• 59:14
  So I still keep that connection. We use a lot of those things,
• 59:18
  but I got two or three drills that we're going to use this
• 59:22
  summer. And this, this fall out of that,
• 59:24
  Virginia Tech chalk talk there. A lot of it is about pressure,
• 59:30
  and, and angles, and things like that.
• 59:32
  So we're definitely going to use some of it.
• 59:35
  I got a lot of good stuff out of that.
• 59:37
  I'm gonna do anything with that 33 stack.
• 59:39
  You're going to get some pressure with it.
• 59:41
  So, That's my plan. Good.
• 59:44
  It's A lot of people look at it, they're like, oh well you don't,
• 59:48
  you know, this is they run for three, they run a 34.
• 59:53
  Bottom line is, when you look at the offensive front.
• 59:58
  There are six gaps. You got a cover?
• 1:00:01
  You're, you're going to cover it with three linemen and four
• 1:00:04
  linebackers. I'm going to cover it with four
• 1:00:06
  linebackers and and three linemen maybe five linebackers
• 1:00:11
  or three linemen. It's still the same game.
• 1:00:14
  It's just a matter of Whose line it up where there's a lot of
• 1:00:20
  similarities. And a lot of it is just plug
• 1:00:22
  into guys that, you know, their body type and how they play in
• 1:00:26
  the right places. And I mean they run that 4243
• 1:00:31
  How are you want to look at it. We just have three down linemen
• 1:00:35
  this year. We're going to look a lot more
• 1:00:36
  like a 53 than we were at 35. I mean, it's just a type kids
• 1:00:42
  that I have around right now. I mean, it's not getting the
• 1:00:49
  game defensively. Find the ball, tackle, the ball
• 1:00:54
  where you lined up to start with doesn't really matter.
• 1:00:58
  So long as, you know, where you going where you started really
• 1:01:00
  matter. As long as the head, don't
• 1:01:03
  confuse the feet, right? Yeah that wouldn't goes faulty.
• 1:01:06
  Used to say all the time like his head is talking to his feet
• 1:01:10
  way too much. Yeah, I got to get to head to
• 1:01:12
  shut up. Yeah.
• 1:01:14
  You don't want to hear talking much on the defensive side, all
• 1:01:18
  you want? The head saying is ball ball or
• 1:01:20
  tomorrow? There it is.
• 1:01:25
  So let's kind of wrap the clinic with The clinic with this thing
• 1:01:29
  is obviously you had a good time.
• 1:01:30
  You got to meet all these guys. What will did anybody surprised
• 1:01:34
  you like? Because you got to meet, not
• 1:01:37
  only all the coaches. You got to meet support staff.
• 1:01:40
  I'm assuming trainers at anybody, like surprise you to
• 1:01:44
  where you think, either like what they're doing.
• 1:01:46
  Like, okay, they're going to be in a coaching role soon or
• 1:01:50
  something like that. Just, um, You've got, you've got
• 1:01:56
  those, you've got the younger coaches analyst, eg a tight kids
• 1:02:02
  stuff like that. You can tell they're soaking in
• 1:02:05
  everything they can get with an EB.
• 1:02:09
  I mean, I watched play. I think he's, I think he's
• 1:02:12
  working his way to a, to a prominent role.
• 1:02:17
  I'd love to say it would be staying at Virginia Tech, but
• 1:02:21
  he's going to he's going to have an opportunity at some point.
• 1:02:25
  I think and watching him at practice and learning things.
• 1:02:28
  He's going to have an opportunity to step up within
• 1:02:33
  the next couple of years. I think he's going to be one.
• 1:02:39
  It's hard to say that thing that blew my mind.
• 1:02:42
  The most is how much recruiting has changed.
• 1:02:46
  And like it changes every year but what they're trying to do
• 1:02:52
  what they're doing there is they're trying to stay within
• 1:02:56
  six hours of Blacksburg and they're trying to bring
• 1:02:59
  everything they can in from the state of Virginia.
• 1:03:03
  And then anywhere, six hours from there, they're not trying
• 1:03:06
  to go to Texas to California. Now, if there's kids out there,
• 1:03:11
  you know, Legacy kids, or somebody like that, that come to
• 1:03:14
  them, and it's worth So you let him see.
• 1:03:18
  But they're, they're going to put the feet on the ground.
• 1:03:20
  We're going to put the coaches in the schools are gonna.
• 1:03:24
  They're going to do those things in Virginia Carolina.
• 1:03:33
  I mean you have parts of West Virginia, you have parts of
• 1:03:37
  Maryland, things like that that you have coaches, that have good
• 1:03:41
  experience and good relationships with their.
• 1:03:45
  But they're going to, they're going to build that base within
• 1:03:48
  that time period of their. And one thing they talk about
• 1:03:51
  is, you know we can get kids here and their parents can be
• 1:03:54
  here week in and week out to watch them play.
• 1:03:57
  We can build relationships with families, we can better
• 1:04:00
  relationships with schools is places we can get into and we
• 1:04:05
  can cover as many schools as possible.
• 1:04:09
  And, you know, in a shorter period of time and that's what
• 1:04:12
  they're doing. And it's a great thing.
• 1:04:16
  It's a thing we talked about it, maybe the last, I don't know who
• 1:04:19
  may be in our production meeting or maybe last show.
• 1:04:22
  We talked about just players when you have players that are
• 1:04:27
  Tablet or you know, close to local talent and they go
• 1:04:33
  somewhere close again. I talked about my son, we hear
• 1:04:38
  about, he's a baseball player, we hear about a good baseball
• 1:04:41
  player that plays on our side of town.
• 1:04:43
  We don't go watch it, you know, eat my son's, a seventh grade.
• 1:04:47
  If we had. If we know we, it's a kid, he's
• 1:04:49
  out in the country and he throws.
• 1:04:53
  He's a seventh grader. Little little left hand, white,
• 1:04:56
  dude, doesn't Look like much but he's throwing 82, you know, and
• 1:05:01
  they play on the big boy field now, so it's fret and seventh
• 1:05:05
  grade, he plays underneath great team, he's a seventh grader.
• 1:05:09
  So we hear about him coming up here.
• 1:05:11
  So let's go watch this kid play because he plays on some travel
• 1:05:14
  teams that will play. So let's go watch.
• 1:05:16
  This kid play, go back to what we're doing at Virginia.
• 1:05:20
  Tech people don't mind traveling to see somebody, they know
• 1:05:25
  that's right, you know if they played Good ball player and got
• 1:05:29
  them to do on the set on a Saturday.
• 1:05:31
  May 2 hours away. Oh hey they you know, such and
• 1:05:34
  said we heard such and such getting the start or from your
• 1:05:38
  school or I but like people will go and watch a college football
• 1:05:42
  game. And I don't think that we were
• 1:05:44
  getting away from that, which I don't, we don't have so much of
• 1:05:47
  a problem with filling the stadium or we have, it has such
• 1:05:52
  a problem with filling the stadium, but you'll get there.
• 1:05:54
  If you're already not putting a good product on the field and
• 1:05:57
  You're just putting people out there that whatever you know.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah you got to give some people some stuff to look at.
• 1:06:03
  You gotta give some some families, some okay.
• 1:06:07
  It's you know what we doing on Saturday?
• 1:06:09
  I had a baby is playing, we going to watch it, you know?
• 1:06:12
  And that's going to get revenue for the city.
• 1:06:15
  That's going to get revenue for the football team and that's
• 1:06:17
  going to put fans in the stands and that's the only two players
• 1:06:20
  hype. So I'm glad that they're trying
• 1:06:22
  to, you know, read refocus on on building that.
• 1:06:27
  That that guideline building what they have.
• 1:06:30
  So I'm excited. We can take ten kids, good
• 1:06:35
  football, players from Virginia. Bring them to Virginia Tech, and
• 1:06:39
  that means you can get 10 bands with seven or eight people in
• 1:06:42
  them to come out to the game. I get ten years from California,
• 1:06:46
  Texas, and who knows where, hey, bud, about three of those folks
• 1:06:50
  don't pay that six or seven hundred dollar point, right?
• 1:06:59
  Filling the stadium because the price we thank you that very
• 1:07:02
  well year-in and year-out promise.
• 1:07:05
  But they know they know where their heart and soul is, and
• 1:07:08
  it's right there at home. Yes.
• 1:07:10
  We see you. North Carolina that are closer
• 1:07:12
  than some of their kids in Virginia.
• 1:07:15
  Yeah, we've got, we had to Mount Airy commits.
• 1:07:17
  Right now what we are doing with the crystal.
• 1:07:19
  All the one with the commit. So yeah, got to on the team
• 1:07:22
  right now that are from just next door, East sir.
• 1:07:26
  Oh, yeah. Because now boys.
• 1:07:29
  Yeah, yeah, that's cute. The younger dog smell brother
• 1:07:34
  was when Caroline County but he moved their senior year, he was
• 1:07:36
  here. If you're one of the schools,
• 1:07:39
  have whoops, our tail weekend year in and year out and hearing
• 1:07:43
  did you see? Did you see the younger guys,
• 1:07:46
  and Nails in high school, man. Job, I met him here.
• 1:07:50
  I timed it because his head coach Caroline County.
• 1:07:54
  The camp. No Carroll County.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah. Carol Cascade are used to be the
• 1:07:59
  head coach here. Before we came in heard.
• 1:08:02
  He already was tough in high school.
• 1:08:04
  That's a that's a, that's a, that's a big.
• 1:08:06
  Youngin stuff in high school. Yeah, he's pretty good.
• 1:08:14
  I've seen some film on him. I'm glad I didn't have to I'm
• 1:08:16
  glad that he went on to Virginia and played up and I didn't have
• 1:08:20
  to deal with, you know, fully just that that injury behind
• 1:08:23
  him, he can make Some impact this year.
• 1:08:24
  Looking forward to that for sure.
• 1:08:26
  Absolutely, let's let's move on from the clinic.
• 1:08:30
  The chalk, talk. We're going to start talking
• 1:08:32
  some spring game that's coming up this Saturday, but we're
• 1:08:36
  going to start with the with what came out today.
• 1:08:39
  We got the format for the spring game, and we'll start with this.
• 1:08:43
  We will start with what we didn't get.
• 1:08:45
  So what we didn't get was a white jersey offense, maroon
• 1:08:51
  Jersey defense, good on good with some Short swaps, we didn't
• 1:08:57
  get that. I got a little bit of theory
• 1:09:00
  about that. If you go ahead with it we were
• 1:09:05
  hoping we were going to maybe get that we were looking to you
• 1:09:07
  know score whether they kept the score ones versus twos or
• 1:09:11
  whether they gave defensive scores for things like three and
• 1:09:15
  outs turnovers or sacks, whatever, whatever they decide
• 1:09:18
  to do. In terms of keeping score, I
• 1:09:20
  think we were all. Hoping a little bit to look at
• 1:09:22
  that. Good on good, but that's It's
• 1:09:24
  not what we got. What we got was a split roster,
• 1:09:28
  white maroon like we saw last year on down Curtis.
• 1:09:32
  We got four quarters with potential, shortened forth
• 1:09:36
  depending on how the game flows, then game clock in the second
• 1:09:39
  half running game clock in the second half, but what you get is
• 1:09:43
  a more game-like flow for the spring game that comes to a
• 1:09:49
  point where that running clock in the second app is kind of a
• 1:09:52
  good thing. Alright, so we put the two
• 1:09:57
  formats out there. I think you already kind of know
• 1:09:59
  where we're leaning here, but Curtis will start with you,
• 1:10:03
  because this is your rant. What's your preference?
• 1:10:06
  Oh my God. Okay, how we're doing it is to
• 1:10:09
  be the worst possible way you can do the work as my opinion.
• 1:10:14
  Maybe I'm right? Maybe I'm wrong because what
• 1:10:17
  people see, thank last year. I buddy be fish talk with him
• 1:10:21
  today and he's like, I don't remember last year, I'm Like,
• 1:10:23
  You Remember Jay. Congrats on the resurrection, be
• 1:10:25
  fish. Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  This is all I said, do you remember Jason browns offensive
• 1:10:33
  line last year? It just bringing.
• 1:10:36
  He didn't have one. It's three Walk-Ons.
• 1:10:38
  And I felt like it would have broke leg out there.
• 1:10:41
  I hate this for me, because what we don't get to see is all the
• 1:10:45
  good players together. We don't get to see them.
• 1:10:48
  We don't get to see. We talked about Aiden green, a
• 1:10:51
  couple weeks ago, right? We talked about him with mattei
• 1:10:54
  and we talked about him with David he was looking out there.
• 1:10:56
  Looking good with his hands we don't get to say.
• 1:10:59
  All right. You go play Dorian.
• 1:11:00
  Strong. Go out there against 44.
• 1:11:03
  Tallies favorite number in the world.
• 1:11:05
  It's a slate at me. How good are you as a freshman?
• 1:11:08
  I don't get to see D Line 1 vs 0 Line 1.
• 1:11:11
  I don't get to see people jumping up.
• 1:11:13
  You're right. It isn't be a better game format
• 1:11:16
  because it's actually a game but reality we Brown.
• 1:11:20
  We went back a few years ago when we had white versus in the
• 1:11:23
  room and I felt entertained the whole time.
• 1:11:25
  I watch it on TV last year, that was not fun to watch.
• 1:11:29
  I watch it and I enjoy it because I'm like notes on
• 1:11:32
  players I chatted with you because you're there at the
• 1:11:34
  game. I just, you know what?
• 1:11:38
  Brent pry gets everything. But spring game ball.
• 1:11:44
  Go ahead. They announced today that it was
• 1:11:47
  going to be Actually, I will throw this at
• 1:12:27
  you because I think this is where Curtis is coming from.
• 1:12:30
  If we had a de facto, number one quarterback, I would 100% be on
• 1:12:35
  board with that, but if we're having a quarterback battle, you
• 1:12:39
  are handicapped in one of those quarterbacks possible.
• 1:12:45
  Now, from a coach's perspective, this is coach protect you.
• 1:12:51
  And I were talking about this earlier.
• 1:12:53
  If I go out there right now and I say in the spring, These are
• 1:13:00
  my five best linemen that's going to be my starting five
• 1:13:03
  group. I'm going to put them out there
• 1:13:04
  against this. You got kids are behind them.
• 1:13:09
  In this spring that are going to, they're going to, they're
• 1:13:13
  only going to react one or two ways.
• 1:13:16
  It's they think they're better than I am.
• 1:13:19
  I'm going to go out there and prove that I that I'm not a
• 1:13:22
  number two behind him or you're going to have your kid that
• 1:13:25
  goes. Well I'm a number two.
• 1:13:27
  They already told me in the spring so why keep fighting?
• 1:13:32
  And they're not looking at that in this spring in my opinion in
• 1:13:37
  the spring they're analyzing these kids.
• 1:13:41
  Holy and individually. We're going to find in the fall.
• 1:13:46
  We're going to find another things when they're going to put
• 1:13:48
  the best. Boobs together.
• 1:13:50
  Absolutely, you may have a kid stand up against, you know, the
• 1:13:55
  tune and be like, okay, well let's move him over here.
• 1:13:58
  Put him against to, you know what, we get the job done with
• 1:14:07
  this. Walk over here and right here,
• 1:14:09
  if he can get the job done with the walk on beside him, you
• 1:14:12
  know, get the job done with the returning, more kid beside it.
• 1:14:16
  Yeah, like that. So I do don't it don't bother me
• 1:14:20
  quite as bad. It might not be as entertaining
• 1:14:23
  for for the regular person to watch and see, but there's a
• 1:14:27
  method to I believe that I think you get away it because I think
• 1:14:32
  it's I think for the very general fan watching something
• 1:14:37
  in a more game-like format is what they want for any fan of
• 1:14:41
  that's trying to look for growth or look for ya nuggets that they
• 1:14:46
  can pull out of the spring game. I feel The format is gives it
• 1:14:50
  gives you a little bit of a harder time and analyze them
• 1:14:52
  that because you really have to look at the tape and look at
• 1:14:56
  those kind of the, the analytics and the player by player
• 1:15:00
  standpoint, to pull out where the growth is because you're not
• 1:15:05
  going to see it necessarily as a unit.
• 1:15:07
  Because I mean we looked at that last year with the line that
• 1:15:11
  Jason Brown had. I was like, alright, I know we
• 1:15:14
  definitely don't have any more than five or six lines, Kill
• 1:15:21
  five, that's it. Anybody gets hurt.
• 1:15:23
  We screwed. So I guess Squad game or do you
• 1:15:33
  want one VS1 to vs2 to be man? Honestly, I'm just happy I'm
• 1:15:38
  going. I'm just want to know what have
• 1:15:40
  a good time. I hope.
• 1:15:49
  I don't believe anything. They tell me during the spring
• 1:15:52
  because you can't really judge it.
• 1:15:54
  But what I say is the question I have for you and Curtis and
• 1:16:00
  Brian who were the lineman that was blocking for Jason Brown
• 1:16:03
  last year, but your house key was one of them.
• 1:16:06
  He's a walk-on. Okay, sorry, it was.
• 1:16:09
  Oh, no, it was, no, it was legitimately when they laid it
• 1:16:12
  out, it was starting center with Wells, starting tackles worth
• 1:16:17
  Wells, and he had more More and he was supposed to have Hanson
• 1:16:22
  but Hanson got hurt and Hanson. Skip the game.
• 1:16:26
  He had Malachi Thomas Malachi was banging.
• 1:16:28
  Got bang that weekend, was out in part when Parker out for part
• 1:16:32
  of the game, too. He was, he was out for a game.
• 1:16:35
  That's why I don't see again, it's not so much and I get
• 1:16:38
  Robbie. What does I couldn't remember
• 1:16:40
  why I couldn't remember Lou Brown game.
• 1:16:42
  Hey, I was hoping y'all was gonna give me a name that
• 1:16:44
  they're saying it's competing for a starting job this year.
• 1:16:48
  I think it's So Brown only had one start game one starter.
• 1:16:54
  Yeah, it is. Yeah, I wasn't the only one game
• 1:16:57
  we started. We didn't, we didn't so, you
• 1:17:00
  know, the goal where I be saying Hell, we just didn't have a lot
• 1:17:03
  last year. It didn't matter how you split
• 1:17:05
  it up. It's almost a joke with you.
• 1:17:08
  All right. Now, this isn't a joke, Andrew
• 1:17:10
  panting, I hope you listening. Whoever has the crappier
• 1:17:13
  offensive line? We know the number to Porter
• 1:17:16
  back. Going out of spring, it is
• 1:17:18
  That's all I'm going to say hi to be determined was obviously a
• 1:17:24
  conversation been seeing drones in a lot of pictures with Ali
• 1:17:27
  Jennings and the gas. I'm gonna say that.
• 1:17:30
  I always say, let's flip it here, let's talk about things
• 1:17:35
  we're looking for in this game and since we had Tomorrow Connor
• 1:17:40
  want a better defensive players that we've had over the last 45
• 1:17:42
  years here. Join us tonight in Robbie, who
• 1:17:45
  was a defensive coordinator and defensive lack of we're going to
• 1:17:47
  start Offensively, even though everybody probably wants a
• 1:17:50
  scholar quarterback but you know, we do what we want and
• 1:17:53
  let's start with the FIFA defensive line because outside
• 1:17:56
  quarterback to me. That's the biggest question.
• 1:17:58
  We've been bringing it up. We've been talking it shooting
• 1:18:00
  the shit for the last few weeks here about not so much interior,
• 1:18:05
  but as presidents and Robbie, I'm going to pitch to you first,
• 1:18:08
  man, when you were down there, anybody catch your, I'd Edge,
• 1:18:15
  because we, I'm pulling up my mind.
• 1:18:19
  Make sure numbers have changed some folks.
• 1:18:21
  Wearing different numbers. I like messing with you.
• 1:18:24
  I really don't even know, but the defensive end wise we got
• 1:18:33
  here. The, the one kid that I saw
• 1:18:37
  that, I thought looked pretty good.
• 1:18:41
  Was 14 moisten, okay. Okay, I thought he looked.
• 1:18:49
  He's very athletic. He's long and rangy.
• 1:18:54
  He's probably going to need to get a little more weight on him,
• 1:18:57
  but he he's got that long build. He's quick to the edge.
• 1:19:01
  I think he's gonna, I think he's going to step in and help some.
• 1:19:07
  And then, who was he, McRae? Okay, crazy, look too bad.
• 1:19:18
  You think he's put on a little bit more weight?
• 1:19:20
  Is he kind of getting I know he was more of a he was a
• 1:19:22
  linebacker that we were kind of turning into a edge rusher last
• 1:19:25
  year. I would say he was probably
• 1:19:28
  around 250 260, okay, they will take, he was a diesel of the
• 1:19:32
  kid. Now granted we were at the
• 1:19:36
  practice I was at was I think practice.
• 1:19:38
  Number 5, Okay, makes sense. It was a 25th of March and it's
• 1:19:46
  a lot of Steel drills and fundamentals, and things like
• 1:19:50
  that. Another like the second padded
• 1:19:52
  practice or something like that, it was a second data Graphics.
• 1:19:56
  So you weren't screw you in a lot of you know, defensive end
• 1:20:01
  versus offensive, lineman one-on-ones and and stuff like
• 1:20:05
  that. You're seeing a lot of bag
• 1:20:07
  drills. And you know No room in the
• 1:20:11
  hoops and attacking the attacking, the throwing arm
• 1:20:17
  different, things like that and you could see you could see some
• 1:20:20
  athleticism to burst from those guys.
• 1:20:23
  I really saw the defensive end group and in the interior front
• 1:20:30
  and a linebacker guys, doing things about you know turnovers
• 1:20:36
  and and batten balls and things like that.
• 1:20:39
  Okay. That athleticism now going,
• 1:20:42
  one-on-one and doing stuff like that.
• 1:20:44
  I didn't see as much of that stuff.
• 1:20:49
  But you can like I feel like the things that I look at.
• 1:20:55
  I can see good things out of a lot of those guys.
• 1:20:57
  They had a freshman there, a kid coming in.
• 1:21:02
  What was his name? Was the old field or was he know
• 1:21:07
  he was on the field. He was he was an early enrollee.
• 1:21:12
  Happy members named defensive line though.
• 1:21:15
  Defensive end. Yeah.
• 1:21:20
  Was it 46? It may have been a motive in the
• 1:21:23
  Canadian kid. I would say he's got his arm in
• 1:21:26
  a sling. Know it was, but that was when
• 1:21:29
  David saw him, this could have been before that.
• 1:21:32
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:21:35
  It might have been him but they I mean they hit.
• 1:21:38
  He had they had a couple of younger guys that I think are
• 1:21:43
  going to get around into something, you know, some some
• 1:21:47
  red shirt, sophomore, some red shirt freshman and stuff like
• 1:21:49
  that. You got kids coming in still in
• 1:21:52
  the fall. They haven't gotten there yet,
• 1:21:54
  right? They had 128 kids total and 19
• 1:21:58
  of them there in the fall. I mean, in the spring, 11 came,
• 1:22:01
  in the spring 11 came with spring-loaded, famous train.
• 1:22:04
  Be careful transfers. I think it might be almost 19.
• 1:22:07
  Okay my team is what they say. All right so I mean I think I
• 1:22:13
  think they're making some strides in the right places and
• 1:22:16
  it's just going to be how quickly these guys can mature
• 1:22:18
  and develop you know of course you have your older guys that
• 1:22:22
  have played some but you've got several kids they're younger and
• 1:22:27
  all of them were the same kind of build.
• 1:22:30
  They were that same 6-3 2-6. Five 235 over 6 foot tall.
• 1:22:45
  Let me ask you this. You kick it next.
• 1:22:49
  What are y'all looking for on defensively?
• 1:22:52
  What Robbie saying size and speed, you know, like for me it
• 1:22:58
  is different you know what I'm saying?
• 1:23:00
  Because you don't win the game in the first quarter, not a win,
• 1:23:03
  the game in the second quarter, every now and then you went into
• 1:23:07
  the third quarter, like you got to have bodies that you can run
• 1:23:10
  and lean on people. That's why these SEC teams are
• 1:23:13
  sold by the fourth quarter, they beating teams up that laying on
• 1:23:17
  them. Georgia is running five
• 1:23:19
  different guys that you just 300 You know, and we just haven't
• 1:23:23
  had that, you know, we've had no disrespect to some of the kids
• 1:23:27
  we had we had some great kids to come in and play hard Griffin
• 1:23:30
  was a great player for us. You know.
• 1:23:33
  We can go down the list of hens and even somebody tacos that
• 1:23:37
  we've had but I am just getting to.
• 1:23:39
  Yeah. When you just get into the grind
• 1:23:41
  of a ACC season or football season period, we just again,
• 1:23:46
  just from a fan perspective going.
• 1:23:48
  And looking at a game, you'd look at our team and you go,
• 1:23:51
  man. We so small compared to Georgia
• 1:23:55
  Tech. I went to Atlanta and watch this
• 1:23:57
  play. Georgia Tech now.
• 1:23:59
  They had. What's my man named?
• 1:24:02
  It transferred Alabama on that team.
• 1:24:04
  Oh Gibbs. Yeah, they had give him
• 1:24:06
  attention. Of course.
• 1:24:07
  He was the he was the best thing on the field.
• 1:24:10
  We beat them that game, but he look different, but their team
• 1:24:15
  looked bigger than us, you know, even though we won and I'm sure
• 1:24:18
  like again, I know we had some, some boys to play hard but as
• 1:24:21
  far as that, Defensive line goes man a lot of these kids that
• 1:24:25
  they're bringing in. I just see sighs, you know, and
• 1:24:28
  I know that when you get out of high school, some of these kids
• 1:24:32
  are slender. But that's, that's what a weight
• 1:24:35
  room is for. That's what the nutritionist
• 1:24:37
  for. So when you look at a kid, the
• 1:24:39
  6-3 6-4, you know, they say 220 or 230. £30.
• 1:24:45
  He's even gained 15 pounds by going to college period, That's
• 1:24:50
  The Freshman 15. You don't get that just period.
• 1:24:53
  So if these kids can throw down and eat and pumps a mind, like
• 1:24:56
  you can get 30 pounds, you know, you can get 20 pounds, most of
• 1:24:59
  the time. So I'm just, I'm just thankful
• 1:25:03
  and interested to see what I actual team looks like with some
• 1:25:08
  with some size. And I think, you know, the
• 1:25:10
  speed, of course to you can just be big and slow, but I think a
• 1:25:14
  lot A lot of these kids that were getting in a lot of this,
• 1:25:16
  these cleaners in high school, and just like, even looking at
• 1:25:19
  the kid like McRae, McRae, when he played early in the season,
• 1:25:25
  he was jumping off the film. To me, he was jumping off the
• 1:25:28
  screen, he was doing some things.
• 1:25:30
  Well, he just looked different, and he came from what martial
• 1:25:33
  arts, what they ain't told him, like he was just such a high
• 1:25:36
  level guy and I'm like, oh man, he's Alabama, commit know, some
• 1:25:40
  kids just look different than other kids, you know I'm saying
• 1:25:43
  and they're going He he just had it.
• 1:25:46
  So I'm hoping he builds on and I think he had an injury last year
• 1:25:49
  that kind of derailed some of the stuff he was doing but sighs
• 1:25:54
  I say is what I'm excited about seeing that you are just running
• 1:25:58
  from 6 feet tall if you get Dwight Freeney, but I don't
• 1:26:01
  think we got to wait for any right now.
• 1:26:02
  Yeah, but yeah, and I mean I'll say this because I mean having
• 1:26:06
  played against some some guys some guys that played D1 balls
• 1:26:10
  some guys that you know, I was I played played III, so I played
• 1:26:13
  two years old. All that level of talent the
• 1:26:16
  type of player 2 gave me the most trouble wasn't a fast guy.
• 1:26:20
  That was that was my height or a little bit taller than me.
• 1:26:23
  It was a guy that was playing about 63 that could have Long
• 1:26:26
  Reach and leverage could use their hands but also still has
• 1:26:30
  some quickness to make the play in the backfield that gave me
• 1:26:33
  fucking it fits. So we're getting longer that's
• 1:26:37
  going to be a problem for some offensive lineman.
• 1:26:39
  So I liked that and when you when you see some of the stuff
• 1:26:42
  they did I know I know People laughed about having that MMA
• 1:26:45
  guy in, but you talked about it, Robbie with the hand style, like
• 1:26:49
  two hands fight. We might, if you have guys who
• 1:26:51
  are long and know how to do that on the defensive line, you're
• 1:26:54
  going to win battles. I'm going to Pivot off here in a
• 1:26:56
  second, but I won't. I'm interested to see one thing,
• 1:26:59
  and y'all boys that are going there.
• 1:27:02
  You got to watch it, tell me where flood area, Spain lines
• 1:27:05
  up. I just be put him a defensive
• 1:27:07
  tackle, but everything in my, he's number zero, Robbie 63
• 1:27:11
  degrees, 70 pounds, I'm I stood to see if they're going to play
• 1:27:15
  him at like a five Tech play a big n because the guy played
• 1:27:19
  Edge. He played engine Nebraska was
• 1:27:22
  brought in to the edge last year.
• 1:27:23
  He blew his Achilles out, you know, in the early part of the
• 1:27:26
  summer, I'm interested, you know, they put it in D tackle,
• 1:27:29
  all of a sudden were to stack their, we got six deep.
• 1:27:33
  Now, I'm wondering if they're going to play him like a 5 Tech
• 1:27:37
  and say, play Big end having Lawson and Jenkins who will talk
• 1:27:41
  about that group in the second. It's possible.
• 1:27:45
  But there's a, there's a trend right now couple and I all the
• 1:27:49
  football In and it started with Aaron Donald those big athletic.
• 1:27:58
  Just little bit smaller defensive ends playing that
• 1:28:02
  three technique. I know I've got one that play
• 1:28:07
  for me in high school, we played it in Sea State, he played
• 1:28:10
  defensive end at NC State for a vast majority of his career and
• 1:28:16
  he got to the league in San Francisco.
• 1:28:17
  Moved him to a three techniques they did it's three he's 280
• 1:28:22
  pounds and he runs a 45 640. He I mean, unfortunately that he
• 1:28:30
  went to the Saints last year and I hate to say it, he just signed
• 1:28:35
  with the Eagles last week that kills me.
• 1:28:57
  If something goes bad, they can slide him right back out there.
• 1:29:00
  He's got plenty of experience in that situation.
• 1:29:03
  Good boy, you know, you get teams that have that, that tight
• 1:29:08
  end, you know, double tight set the protein style, double kite,
• 1:29:13
  you know, they'll load two tight ends on one side or something
• 1:29:15
  like that. He can play that five technique.
• 1:29:18
  And pray that that, you know, interior type lineman against
• 1:29:24
  that kind of stuff, he's going to be a valuable asset there.
• 1:29:28
  But I it's I'm trying to think of Like so many of the drills
• 1:29:33
  they did was about pressure and moving I can't remember which
• 1:29:37
  group he was with. It was a defensive line, the
• 1:29:41
  interior lineman, or the or the ends though.
• 1:29:45
  I think he's going to be a pretty.
• 1:29:46
  He's definitely going to be a presence on all of them.
• 1:29:48
  No, big deal here, man. I let slip over a little bit.
• 1:29:51
  Let's just, let's just talk a little bit about the linebacker
• 1:29:53
  and I know I think this is a room.
• 1:29:54
  We all feel good about my interest in peace is with j.r.
• 1:29:59
  Walker leaving. We mentioned it last week who's
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  Going to end up being the backup because we me and Brian we
• 1:30:05
  talked last year about Walker and Jenkins.
• 1:30:08
  That's a great one-two. Combo.
• 1:30:09
  You don't lose all the anything. Walk comes off, Walker's gone.
• 1:30:13
  So we do not have a primary backup.
• 1:30:15
  He came out text sideline. I think, I'm not sure if it was
• 1:30:18
  day that R&D, but Prime engine, they're moving, Jalen whole over
• 1:30:21
  to Nickel saying that's an interesting development because,
• 1:30:26
  you know, that tells a lot when we talked about last week with
• 1:30:29
  the safeties. So I'll go to you.
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  I think I know what you're going to say.
• 1:30:34
  It involves the big imposition. But what are you looking at,
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  Saturday? I mean I'm looking primarily at
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  Mike, be honest. Because I feel like because I
• 1:30:47
  feel like the starters at the other two spots are going to be
• 1:30:51
  sod and I feel like the depth will more or less work itself
• 1:30:54
  out. I need to know who's standing in
• 1:30:56
  the middle of that defense who's getting those calls and who's
• 1:31:01
  going to be one of the primary guys that's going to help us in
• 1:31:04
  the Run game. That's what I'm concerned about.
• 1:31:07
  I want to see who that guy is going to be.
• 1:31:09
  Is it going to be an undersized? Is Tisdale is he's jaded?
• 1:31:12
  Keller coming on? Is it going to be somebody that
• 1:31:14
  isn't even on the roster yet? You know, that's kind of what
• 1:31:19
  I'm looking at. So, Mike is my biggest concern
• 1:31:21
  because I feel like some of that depth will take care of itself
• 1:31:24
  with some additional practice. Well, thank you.
• 1:31:26
  Thank you know, most people are probably thinking the same thing
• 1:31:29
  and looking at the same thing because most of the time Mike is
• 1:31:34
  That's the quarterback on defense.
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  You know what I'm saying? That's the one who's making the
• 1:31:38
  calls most of the time. That's the one who's getting
• 1:31:40
  people lined up. So that person uses got to be a
• 1:31:44
  leader. That person's usually got to
• 1:31:46
  know a lot of stuff. So like Brian said, it's like
• 1:31:50
  interested to see who will be putting in that position because
• 1:31:54
  we feel like some of the other depth is going to play out fine,
• 1:31:57
  but that position in it's got to be a run stopper, you know and
• 1:32:02
  football is evolving. This person, it's a lot of stuff
• 1:32:05
  that goes into it. Are they going to be side to
• 1:32:07
  side? Are they going to be able to
• 1:32:08
  just anchor down the middle? What are we, what are we going
• 1:32:10
  to have there? So I don't know, man.
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  And then it's just like, when being a left, I mean, we've had
• 1:32:17
  that stand for fucking ten years.
• 1:32:19
  So, it's just like, what are you pivoting?
• 1:32:21
  Go to, you know, what I'm saying?
• 1:32:22
  Whether he's good or bad in your eyes, you knew okay, he's in
• 1:32:27
  this spot, you know, now you got to make a change.
• 1:32:31
  It's like, are we going for? This is Stood, the look that
• 1:32:34
  we're going for? Are we going for this?
• 1:32:37
  I don't know. And it always seems like in
• 1:32:41
  Virginia Tech. That's you go in season after
• 1:32:44
  season and it was almost like, well, we know who to my kids.
• 1:32:48
  Yeah, yep. Ain't always been that way.
• 1:32:50
  I mean it's you've had the halls and like you said, Holly feels
• 1:32:59
  been there. Ten, damn years before him.
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  There was A magical. Yeah, but it was the, you have
• 1:33:10
  some consistency there? You never kind of look the same.
• 1:33:13
  They kind of look the same. They kind of look the same.
• 1:33:15
  You knew what they were going to give you?
• 1:33:17
  Yeah, you do that. I mean even though they had
• 1:33:19
  their limitations, dang Richard, but you knew what they were
• 1:33:22
  going to give you and we know the guys going to give you, it's
• 1:33:26
  a hell of a lot easier to figure out what you can do around them,
• 1:33:28
  right? Robbie, I know you going down to
• 1:33:31
  the smaller school. Now, you know, I know what This
• 1:33:33
  can get me because you mention, I remember you mentioned last
• 1:33:36
  year. I've got this one kid, he can do
• 1:33:38
  everything. What do I go?
• 1:33:40
  You were talking about what you were going to probably do with
• 1:33:42
  him that year because whatever I do with him.
• 1:33:46
  I've got to put him in the best spot and now we're sitting here.
• 1:33:50
  We don't have that but to the point that we're kind of making
• 1:33:54
  with Jenkins and Lawson in the depth behind them is for the
• 1:33:58
  first time a long time. We have to make a decision in my
• 1:34:01
  but you're talking about on the outside.
• 1:34:03
  It's not to me. It's not earth shattering,
• 1:34:06
  right? It's not.
• 1:34:07
  Like because we saw lossing, come on Lawson's, game Lawson's
• 1:34:11
  of freak. Could he be a TV?
• 1:34:13
  Maybe that is a high standard. Live up to could he be Evelyn's
• 1:34:17
  baby? High standard but some of the
• 1:34:19
  stuff he did and those last three, four games, like you're
• 1:34:22
  watching her cry and you got to watch some of the tape and it's
• 1:34:24
  just like, oh shit. Well I'm gonna be okay.
• 1:34:28
  If he gets consistent with, with his technique he's going to be a
• 1:34:33
  problem because he's got all the length and athleticism in the
• 1:34:36
  world are for sale. A lot of the stuff that he did
• 1:34:38
  came from link. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:34:40
  We go back to the defensive line when you're When you're watching
• 1:34:46
  a game as a average fan, you're just thinking either this person
• 1:34:50
  down our tackle or they didn't. But when you watch the game with
• 1:34:53
  somebody like Brian and watch the game with somebody like
• 1:34:55
  Robbie, you know, you're looking for other stuff that's going on
• 1:34:59
  on on in the trenches. Are these guys getting their
• 1:35:02
  hands up because if you got Lyman is getting our hands up
• 1:35:06
  and getting into throwing lines that gets in the quarterbacks
• 1:35:09
  head and they don't have that. We it's a lot of time in the
• 1:35:13
  recent past that we Hey at people get the hands up in
• 1:35:16
  throwing Lanes, you make can't get to the quarterback sometimes
• 1:35:20
  but when you got somebody like Kelly Lawson this what is he 65?
• 1:35:25
  You know, when he can't get there when he can't get there
• 1:35:29
  and he can put his hands up. Yeah.
• 1:35:31
  It's going to it's going to impede some stuff that the
• 1:35:33
  quarterbacks trying to do you know I think maybe have at it he
• 1:35:36
  had a tip pick one one. Yeah right yeah yeah yeah that
• 1:35:40
  is just length and athleticism. You don't say About this because
• 1:35:46
  we talked about open field, we talked about in line blocking
• 1:35:49
  and I was talking earlier, we were talking about the line L.
• 1:35:51
  Length is a problem. Length is a problem at the
• 1:35:54
  second level 2 because if I can't get my face across you and
• 1:35:59
  get into your pads, I'm gonna have a problem blocking you.
• 1:36:03
  Hmm. Yeah.
• 1:36:06
  And somebody with that type of length and that type of speed
• 1:36:09
  that's going to create problems for Lyman and tight ends getting
• 1:36:12
  to that second level. Because if you got, if you got a
• 1:36:16
  lime in this coming to wash you out, and you're able to use your
• 1:36:21
  hands to keep him at Bay and have this outside hand.
• 1:36:24
  Free and somebody's coming on the outside.
• 1:36:26
  You still can grab, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:36:28
  That comes the towel drills, can you get them down?
• 1:36:31
  You know what I'm saying? Different things like that.
• 1:36:33
  But at the same time, it's if you don't have it, you don't
• 1:36:37
  have it. If you don't got a 7-foot
• 1:36:39
  wingspan, yes ain't got it, I'm saying you either got that on
• 1:36:43
  you know. So, just like in the recent,
• 1:36:47
  man, we haven't had a lot of athletes that I'm seeing.
• 1:36:53
  I watched a little bit of stuff and went back and watched a
• 1:36:56
  little bit more film because I kept hearing the name most
• 1:37:00
  Phillips. You know, then Cunningham came
• 1:37:03
  on and talked about him. Yeah.
• 1:37:04
  Just his healing ability and then I turned on the tape and
• 1:37:07
  I'm like yeah this kid wasn't ranked until Signing Day and
• 1:37:13
  then they give him what 84 Five, whatever he gets, you know,
• 1:37:16
  normal stuff and you know regular fans, we don't pay
• 1:37:19
  attention to it. Then you turn on the table.
• 1:37:21
  He said, yeah, this man is coming downhill.
• 1:37:23
  He's hit when he's a legit, you know, 61-62, coming from those
• 1:37:27
  positions in Hidden, that's much different people don't
• 1:37:31
  understand. 61-62 coming downhill is different than 510
• 1:37:35
  511, just because of the, the area that you're covering.
• 1:37:39
  So I don't know, man. I'm, I've been preaching in a
• 1:37:43
  long time. Just Sighs.
• 1:37:45
  And you know, that's not don't just get us out of every, hold
• 1:37:49
  it with your hand but it looks good.
• 1:37:52
  I like to see it. I'm excited about it as far as
• 1:37:55
  the linebackers go. I think you got a bright future
• 1:37:58
  with Jenkins Lawson. I mean well, Jenkins is the
• 1:38:05
  older one? Yeah, Keller Lawson Kellerman.
• 1:38:10
  I think I think it looks. I mean you got three guys out
• 1:38:14
  there that are younger there that are doing good things and
• 1:38:18
  they're going to be the future of that room and Jenkins is just
• 1:38:23
  going to help them all. Get ready for it.
• 1:38:24
  Yeah, I mean but well one of the are own 16-6, three or more?
• 1:38:32
  Yes, they are. We did he was a linebacker,
• 1:38:37
  right? It's like they trying to build a
• 1:38:38
  prototype for the linebackers here, Virginia, anger, if you
• 1:38:42
  ain't sick, the a 63. You ain't asked me which was a
• 1:38:46
  tackling machine but he was 5 5, 10 5, 10 grew and matured Walker
• 1:38:54
  was the same way please. Save my wife.
• 1:39:03
  What are you play, basketball? All right.
• 1:39:18
  Let's hit. Probably the room that we
• 1:39:19
  probably ain't worried about none and that's defensive backs.
• 1:39:23
  I mean I think it's the solid five starting.
• 1:39:27
  Are we feeling more and more when you hear Hoyles moving and
• 1:39:31
  we hear what David said about. Phillips, and Jones looking
• 1:39:34
  good? You feel like that rooms coming
• 1:39:36
  together? I mean I feel like we're all
• 1:39:40
  going to look at just because it's defensive backs and you see
• 1:39:42
  them on every play. You see him moving around but I
• 1:39:47
  mean I'm going into this week with this between Stroman
• 1:39:50
  between people canteen, you my missing, strong brand names for
• 1:39:56
  Pantene, where you got that canteen.
• 1:39:59
  He's in teen is from what I could see through drills and
• 1:40:06
  everything he is. Leading everything like he's the
• 1:40:11
  voice, the heartbeat, the inspiration that go after
• 1:40:15
  things. I mean he is to be a transfer
• 1:40:21
  coming in. Uh-huh.
• 1:40:23
  Step into that role. Like you can tell.
• 1:40:26
  He's he's there to improve everything.
• 1:40:30
  He is there to to show people the energy and the passion
• 1:40:36
  you've got to have. He matches coach Prelude,
• 1:40:39
  passion at practice and the way things were going that day.
• 1:40:44
  I mean, he's just he's just that he's always giving the younger
• 1:40:49
  guys. Information.
• 1:40:51
  He's always talking about the things they can do and how
• 1:40:54
  they're going to have to practice and in that In that
• 1:40:59
  group and those DVDs, the safety is in Corners, pray lose the
• 1:41:07
  energy and Coach Jones is the is the inspiration and they always
• 1:41:15
  talk about cheetahs. Well that's not about just being
• 1:41:19
  fast and doing things like a cheetah.
• 1:41:21
  It's a way of life for Coach Jones and those guys back there
• 1:41:27
  and those guys are living it, man.
• 1:41:29
  And Canteen to putting it to the front.
• 1:41:31
  You do things right? You do things the way they're
• 1:41:33
  supposed to be done. You do it with the effort.
• 1:41:36
  And I mean he's we all talked about it the last show about how
• 1:41:40
  somebody had to step up and Lead this group right now.
• 1:41:43
  It looks like canteen is the guy doing that?
• 1:41:46
  Well, I'm even just go ahead and I guess the one that we feel
• 1:41:50
  like has the best selling out all those people.
• 1:41:52
  Probably the youngest guy, which is Monsoor, but we need even
• 1:41:57
  touched on tweening touched on strowman.
• 1:41:59
  In people's like they've been that group is deep man and
• 1:42:04
  that's not something that is much different, as some big
• 1:42:07
  individuals for the be playing that DB room, you know what I'm
• 1:42:10
  saying? Like, everybody six me don't get
• 1:42:12
  better. Yeah, and it's just getting it.
• 1:42:15
  And I've heard a lot about Cartman.
• 1:42:16
  Just him coming in as a freshman.
• 1:42:19
  And like I said, I don't know how much burn he gets, just
• 1:42:23
  maybe at DB or safety or whatever that putting him.
• 1:42:26
  But if he's coming in and he's pushing Those guys and he's
• 1:42:30
  given good looks and he can get in on on special teams.
• 1:42:35
  And I said that's a nice-size kid coming in at 62 63 straight
• 1:42:40
  out of high school, ready to go. You know we don't have to put
• 1:42:45
  you don't have to put height of weight on it height or weight on
• 1:42:48
  him, he's got it watching watching some film and some
• 1:42:53
  highlights and stuff like that. The Woodson kid.
• 1:42:59
  Oh, you know everybody we talked little talk to the white.
• 1:43:03
  We talk to the white Vic, a couple of weeks ago and what
• 1:43:06
  he's been saying for probably a year now to me just massive guy
• 1:43:11
  got that choose going to step in for Jenkins when he steps off.
• 1:43:15
  That's here. That's what I'm talking about
• 1:43:18
  him right now. Whoo.
• 1:43:20
  Alright and so much to me. Yeah, I was I was I was watching
• 1:43:24
  that show with Wanted white. Yeah, I agree with him 100%
• 1:43:29
  about Woodson. Now that he is going to be a key
• 1:43:33
  is going to be a missing. Love it, love it!
• 1:43:36
  I love it. I love it.
• 1:43:39
  Okay. You won't have to worry about
• 1:43:41
  that DB and safety room. I will tell you what, the that
• 1:43:44
  they're deep, some of them are young, but I think they, I think
• 1:43:49
  some of them young ones are going to be able to play now.
• 1:43:51
  Yeah, I think so as well, you're gonna you're gonna have a
• 1:43:54
  problem there. We having so many.
• 1:43:57
  Yeah. And figuring out how to get
• 1:44:00
  enough of them on the field at the time.
• 1:44:01
  Well that ain't never a problem. Much of a good, many good
• 1:44:05
  football. Players is a good problem to
• 1:44:07
  have not agree. Be you, baby.
• 1:44:14
  I'm just excited to see this group, your back out there,
• 1:44:17
  excited to see what canteen brings on the field, because
• 1:44:20
  we've heard all the great stuff. He's bringing off the field.
• 1:44:23
  So I'm just looking forward to checking out what they can do.
• 1:44:26
  And seeing how that depth, at safety, kind of develops there
• 1:44:29
  with some of the new guys like Phillips and then mixing in
• 1:44:33
  Jalen Jones, which sides the fall.
• 1:44:35
  So, I'm excited about all of it. I like I said, I feel pretty
• 1:44:38
  good about that room as a whole. All right, so Brian what we
• 1:44:40
  talking about next week on quarterbacks quarterbacks
• 1:44:46
  quarterbacks quarterbacks well when it does that,
• 1:45:00
  Protected by somebody ain't never heard of well we had last
• 1:45:04
  year we had a guest, I think I guess ODU we had stopped for a
• 1:45:08
  loss of this plan by receiving the name so you might need to
• 1:45:11
  pay attention, whatever his name was it jumped offsides compared
• 1:45:20
  to what was there last year? Yeah, both you might have two or
• 1:45:25
  three quarterbacks that have at least one or two to throw to.
• 1:45:45
  And you talk about the just say the three transfers to come in,
• 1:45:49
  right? Well, if they're playing, did
• 1:45:52
  you see What the guys did was there last year that they raved
• 1:45:54
  about during spring as well. You got Christian Moss, you got
• 1:45:59
  guys on Holloway you got Gosnell.
• 1:46:03
  Yeah so that's six in the end. We've heard freshman we've heard
• 1:46:09
  18 greens name mentioned you know so that's you want while
• 1:46:14
  we're talking about that. Let's talk about the X Factor
• 1:46:16
  Daquan. Right?
• 1:46:16
  That's cool. I hate it.
• 1:46:27
  People interesting matchups because we're not used to having
• 1:46:32
  any depth and I'm not saying we got so much right now but I can
• 1:46:36
  tell you mine's did a good job with that with that wide
• 1:46:39
  receiver room just perception-wise.
• 1:46:42
  You know we don't know how it's going how it's going to pan out
• 1:46:45
  because that's why we play the game but looking at what he did
• 1:46:49
  to go and fix that wide receiver room. it's totally different
• 1:46:53
  than what we seen last year just from Ha look at things whenever
• 1:46:57
  somebody talks to me about football or even when we have
• 1:47:01
  basketball debates or something. Yeah.
• 1:47:04
  And they say, what was this person better than this person?
• 1:47:06
  Or this person does this? And this does that person like
• 1:47:11
  just said, we're talking basketball, does that person
• 1:47:12
  change the perception of what the NBA is?
• 1:47:15
  You talk about Allen Iverson, he did some stuff that nobody else
• 1:47:18
  could do in the NBA. I don't know if he's better than
• 1:47:20
  this person or that person, but they changed the dress code
• 1:47:23
  because of, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:47:25
  You talk about Michael Vick, he changed.
• 1:47:27
  What people thought a quarterback was.
• 1:47:30
  You know what I'm saying? So go back down to the level.
• 1:47:32
  We're talking about. If I'm on the defensive side of
• 1:47:36
  the ball do I have to game plan for you?
• 1:47:39
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:47:40
  I think you do. I think it shows.
• 1:47:41
  Yeah, absolutely. Probably.
• 1:47:42
  And do I got a game plan for Ali Jennings?
• 1:47:45
  Its first game, not seeing nothing.
• 1:47:48
  Do I got a game plan for him? Damn, right.
• 1:47:50
  I think I do. Do I have to game plan for from
• 1:47:54
  Wayne? Godwin, what 160mm for catches
• 1:47:59
  against Miami. Do I have to game plan for a 65
• 1:48:02
  receiver? Yeah, it's got a big body in
• 1:48:05
  Felton. Didn't nobody knows anything
• 1:48:07
  about? I think you do and that's not,
• 1:48:10
  that's not even seeing anything and didn't even like Tucker
• 1:48:14
  Holloway. You know, we, we, we don't know
• 1:48:18
  everything he can do, but we know he returned a kick as a
• 1:48:21
  freshman, I got some wiggle in the guy who does it look like.
• 1:48:24
  And he look like, My son sighs. So I'm excited about having some
• 1:48:36
  Playmakers on offense, because I think when we look back for last
• 1:48:39
  year, Most teams looked at us and we had so many injuries and
• 1:48:44
  they said, okay, when they put this tight in in, they're going
• 1:48:49
  to try to throw him the ball because he had blocking much
• 1:48:52
  he's using in the kitch. And then they got the big kid
• 1:48:55
  out, which was Caleb Smith, that they're going to try to throw a
• 1:48:59
  jump ball two? Yeah, that's it.
• 1:49:01
  And that's what we had on offense.
• 1:49:04
  So when we, when we go back and talk about again, I hate to keep
• 1:49:10
  bringing it up but when we talk about it, you had talked about
• 1:49:13
  the grant way of saying, I understand what that offense
• 1:49:16
  was. I'd never said, I offense was
• 1:49:18
  great. I just feel like if he went in
• 1:49:22
  and some but I don't think people had the game plan for
• 1:49:24
  Grant Wells. That's the problem for me last
• 1:49:27
  year. Now I think the kid is going to
• 1:49:29
  make some strides. I think he's going to be a great
• 1:49:31
  backup quarterback for thank you.
• 1:49:34
  Well, Robbie Robbie Robbie told us some last night we know Grant
• 1:49:38
  Wells has a strong right Brian right?
• 1:49:40
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:49:41
  But Bobby you said when you saw drone, throw that ball and went
• 1:49:44
  huh? Yeah.
• 1:49:46
  Goes times loose now. Getting back few, you've got a
• 1:49:52
  key. You've got a kid and Grant
• 1:49:54
  Wells. Who is has experience and I
• 1:50:02
  better play, he's going to get the opportunity.
• 1:50:06
  You're not going to be some you shouldn't be surprised when it
• 1:50:09
  comes Saturday. He's going to get the
• 1:50:11
  opportunity to go out there with the first group.
• 1:50:14
  He's going to get the opportunity to play.
• 1:50:16
  He's going to get the opportunity to lose that job.
• 1:50:21
  That's what, that's what he's gonna get, because he, I think
• 1:50:25
  he's going to be honest. I think he's going to take the
• 1:50:26
  field this year with possibly a combination of six.
• 1:50:32
  Different wide receivers that are outside of one above
• 1:50:39
  anything they had last year. Six, different receivers Bill
• 1:50:44
  Smith is probably the only one they could stand in the in those
• 1:50:48
  six. And he at least be a to, in this
• 1:50:51
  group, maybe a 3 in, I mean, I've only been coaching football
• 1:50:59
  a little while, but you ain't going to put six receivers only
• 1:51:02
  field at the time right before out there and then bring three
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  or four more in afterwards. And things change up.
• 1:51:11
  Wells is Wills has to look better with that on the field by
• 1:51:16
  proxy. It's how much better but don't
• 1:51:21
  get it twisted. I don't think anybody's gonna be
• 1:51:26
  surprised when I say this, but drones is more of an athlete
• 1:51:30
  than great. Whales is right there.
• 1:51:33
  Shot is going to force you to Game Plan.
• 1:51:38
  Nothing that you've seen in the past from great.
• 1:51:41
  Wales is making you gain point. Now after the first three games
• 1:51:47
  if for some reason he's the guy that they give the ball to to
• 1:51:51
  start the season, he may be a guy, you have to game plan for
• 1:51:54
  because of what they put around him now.
• 1:51:58
  But I know drones is going to be a guy.
• 1:51:59
  You can have to game plan for because that is a, that is a
• 1:52:03
  bigger different kind of guy. He's a little, he's not as big
• 1:52:08
  as some of the guys. They've had a quarterback in the
• 1:52:10
  past, but he's big enough and I think they haven't listened to
• 1:52:14
  what 62? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:16
  That kid. Biggest 16.
• 1:52:41
  You know, he was he was talking drones up and helping with the
• 1:52:47
  stuff because he's got a better handle on the office.
• 1:52:49
  So Robbie. What did you, what did you tell
• 1:52:51
  us about that? Wells knows that he's got the
• 1:52:56
  experience Wells is, what is he would?
• 1:52:59
  This is he be his last year not when we have been there, when he
• 1:53:05
  started playing as a true freshman at Marshall.
• 1:53:08
  So yeah, he's had a lot of experience even before he got
• 1:53:10
  here. Yeah, he knows what the future
• 1:53:13
  is. He knows that he is there to
• 1:53:15
  help that program build, and if that program is him, If he gets
• 1:53:21
  beat out, he's not going to be he's not going to be a guy that
• 1:53:24
  goes that I got beat for the starting job.
• 1:53:27
  Now I got to just, you know, wait and see if I get an
• 1:53:30
  opportunity. He's going to help everybody
• 1:53:33
  around. He's that kind of football
• 1:53:35
  player. He's that Anna kid and I mean,
• 1:53:39
  that's a good thing to have with the youth that you're bringing
• 1:53:43
  in and drones without a lot of experience.
• 1:53:47
  But drones athletically is, is a kid that's going to be able to
• 1:53:51
  point. He's going to go out there and
• 1:53:53
  do some of the things that they've Excuse me that they've
• 1:53:57
  enjoyed doing in the past with with some other guys would Logan
• 1:54:03
  Thomas with. Brian Randall, I don't know, I
• 1:54:07
  Ain't Goin. I ain't going to say he's going
• 1:54:09
  to lead with Vic. But I mean to be able to if the
• 1:54:13
  past breaks down, he can take off which we know where else can
• 1:54:16
  too, not to the same level though.
• 1:54:19
  No, not to the same level. It's kind of like drones is
• 1:54:25
  going to show us. Is one plug?
• 1:54:27
  It was one place that we're going to go.
• 1:54:30
  He's the only, he is the quarterback that can make that
• 1:54:33
  play. He's a quarterback play and what
• 1:54:36
  I keep saying and I know I've mentioned it to you Robbie.
• 1:54:38
  And Brian, y'all play coach and I said there's parts of the game
• 1:54:44
  where you need, just that one place, third and seven, two
• 1:54:47
  passes breakdown and he scampered. 417 always go back in
• 1:54:51
  my mind. Y'all remember what third and
• 1:54:52
  31? Would tie rod against, FSU y'all
• 1:54:56
  remember? Right.
• 1:54:57
  Oh yeah, it's all about three quarterbacks in the country.
• 1:54:59
  They could do that that year and he was wondering if he did it
• 1:55:01
  any plenty game. Well you can go to.
• 1:55:04
  You can go to most of the games we play last year.
• 1:55:07
  What other teams was getting those one plays?
• 1:55:09
  Whether it was the running back of the quarterback.
• 1:55:12
  You like, damn it? Why does this always happen to
• 1:55:14
  us? I Won't Say, I'm going to
• 1:55:16
  mention somebody Robbie's mentioned already and somebody
• 1:55:20
  David mentioned last week and we know he was a high recruit.
• 1:55:24
  I think Benji go snail. Is going to take a big step this
• 1:55:28
  year. I think he's cleared those
• 1:55:30
  injuries. We know the talent he is, we
• 1:55:32
  talk to, you know, we heard Davis talked about his blocking
• 1:55:36
  and I think if you were able to, I like Gallo.
• 1:55:38
  I think Gallows, the entrenched starter, and they Kwan's always
• 1:55:41
  on the field. One day bronze won't get to
• 1:55:43
  interview day tomorrow. We're gonna we're gonna push
• 1:55:45
  Travis well so that interview in the fall crying.
• 1:55:47
  He's not a true freshman anymore.
• 1:55:48
  So I think that's refreshing to can't make a bullshit anymore.
• 1:55:51
  Exactly. But I think with someone like
• 1:55:53
  Gosnell and we're hearing about that blocking, we know his size,
• 1:55:56
  240, 250 plus, I think there's going to be some times where
• 1:56:00
  they wouldn't be afraid to put him on the field.
• 1:56:03
  I don't know if we'll see it in Spring.
• 1:56:04
  I hope he does get some run just to prove that he's back past the
• 1:56:08
  injury. But I think he's I think he's
• 1:56:12
  still working back. Okay, I mean I like I don't
• 1:56:16
  think physically he's working back.
• 1:56:19
  I think he's back physically but he's just working through.
• 1:56:23
  What's there, you know, I do. I don't think this is a group of
• 1:56:28
  coaches that jump in on potential.
• 1:56:31
  It's he's going to have to work through and prove he can be
• 1:56:34
  there and do that and I don't think he's going.
• 1:56:36
  I don't think he's going to take very long to prove that.
• 1:56:41
  Yeah I mean 65 66 250 pounds. That's a, that's a good that's a
• 1:56:47
  good that's a good chunk of human.
• 1:56:49
  He's going he can block, he can move things and he's at 65 66.
• 1:56:55
  That's that's a whole lot. And going across the middle
• 1:56:57
  trying to catch balls now. Yeah, you better have some, you
• 1:57:00
  better have some big linebackers in some big things.
• 1:57:03
  I mean, look, look at the NFL right now, look at Gronkowski
• 1:57:07
  and Kelsey and all of those types of guys, they're big guys
• 1:57:11
  and they give small safeties and linebackers.
• 1:57:15
  He'll give them pills what they do.
• 1:57:17
  I'm not, I'm not, don't get me wrong.
• 1:57:19
  I'm not jumping in and saying, God smells Kelsey or Gronkowski,
• 1:57:23
  he's built. That was built that way, he's
• 1:57:25
  built that way. It's going to get people
• 1:57:27
  trouble. Yep.
• 1:57:29
  All right, let's hit one last piece here.
• 1:57:30
  We ain't talked about it all night.
• 1:57:32
  We are an offensive long podcast, crying.
• 1:57:37
  You've been looking? What what, what are you looking
• 1:57:39
  for? Well, we don't know.
• 1:57:40
  The, I told you can be mixed up. It's gonna be mixed up who and
• 1:57:43
  what are you looking for in the line on Saturday?
• 1:57:46
  As you are sitting somewhere somewhere and if y'all go sit in
• 1:57:50
  the west of the East stands, you're considering what I saw
• 1:57:52
  last year, I'm going to very much be focused on Jules and the
• 1:57:57
  individuals that I'm focused on is who, who the hell is playing
• 1:58:01
  Right Guard or the guard opposite, little more who's
• 1:58:06
  playing that guard, how they're doing what they're doing.
• 1:58:09
  And then I'm looking at right tackle, do I see improvement
• 1:58:15
  from the product that we saw from Parker Clements last year,
• 1:58:18
  for the majority of the season? And beyond that, I'd like to see
• 1:58:23
  what some of those other tackles can do whether It's Johnny
• 1:58:27
  Garrett or somebody else jumping in there.
• 1:58:29
  I'd like to see what we have at, tackle Beyond Parker, Clements
• 1:58:35
  on the right side. So that's what I'm looking at.
• 1:58:39
  I feel like Chaplin has left locked up, I feel like a little
• 1:58:42
  more has left locked up, or right, depending on how they
• 1:58:45
  swap them and who ends up being the other guard starting.
• 1:58:49
  But those are what I'm looking for is is do we have a starting
• 1:58:54
  guard and a starting right? I Googled that can Elevate the
• 1:58:58
  level of play that we saw last year because that's I'd
• 1:59:02
  struggled mightily, the right tackle side struggled, mightily
• 1:59:07
  Hansen, struggled off, and on throughout the season if we can
• 1:59:12
  improve that in any degree and you factor in what what a little
• 1:59:19
  bit better running game can do for an offense with the RPO
• 1:59:24
  that's going to be big because if you can run in somewhat
• 1:59:27
  effectively, you put a defense in a bind.
• 1:59:33
  Like I said earlier, the options.
• 1:59:35
  Go out to window and RPO if you can't run or pass.
• 1:59:38
  Yep. And I mean, I can't, I can't
• 1:59:43
  wait to see 61 and 68 double-team somebody more and
• 1:59:52
  more get hip to hip and drive some poor guy through the
• 2:00:00
  linebacker core. Because Those two guys, when
• 2:00:04
  they go after things in practice, from what I saw they
• 2:00:09
  have they have streak about them, is you step in front of us
• 2:00:14
  and we're going to move you against your will regardless of
• 2:00:18
  what you want and when you put those two side-by-side together,
• 2:00:23
  you're going to give some push inside and the way that coach
• 2:00:26
  crook likes to run the inside Zone and press that egg out to
• 2:00:32
  the go. Guards, rear end.
• 2:00:35
  You're going to get a double team out of those two, and
• 2:00:37
  there's going to be some scenes inside and it's going to be a
• 2:00:42
  beautiful thing. Now, like you said that other
• 2:00:45
  guard position, if they can get that, you know, if they put one
• 2:00:51
  more its Center and one more guard, you know, that's going to
• 2:00:54
  jail them. Two boys have grown up together
• 2:00:57
  if that other guard and you can get that gel.
• 2:01:02
  That thing to jail in on both sides, your Zone Run game inside
• 2:01:06
  right there is going to open up and it's going to help it's
• 2:01:13
  going to help that offense tremendously.
• 2:01:15
  That's what I'm excited to see up front, definitely that guard
• 2:01:18
  position is going to be big because everybody always talks
• 2:01:22
  Brotherhood. But you got two brothers on the
• 2:01:25
  line. I'm saying, like me, I play
• 2:01:28
  tight end in my tackle was my best friend we wrote.
• 2:01:31
  All the games together. We play Little League baseball
• 2:01:35
  football together, and I could tell you when I'm yelling, when
• 2:01:40
  he's going to miss a block, I can tell you if I'm going out
• 2:01:43
  for a pass and I can hear him, breathing took a certain way and
• 2:01:48
  I see this dude is standing and he's about to bull rush.
• 2:01:52
  I said this motherfuckers about to get ran over, y'all better
• 2:01:54
  get rid of this ball quick or I would just change your stay in
• 2:01:58
  because I knew our quarterbacks getting here.
• 2:02:01
  Cuz my buddy here is not finished, he's not about to
• 2:02:05
  block this guy, just call this linebackers.
• 2:02:07
  Come in here, and we'll be able to get him.
• 2:02:08
  So it's just certain things that you learn when you're playing
• 2:02:11
  with somebody for amount of time.
• 2:02:15
  How to breathing on the trenches?
• 2:02:18
  What they're talking about their demeanor different things like
• 2:02:21
  that that you're going to learn and I hope these boys are
• 2:02:23
  picking up but as far as me, just looking for players that
• 2:02:27
  have to be Chaplet for me, like I just he is a big dude.
• 2:02:31
  You know what I'm saying, but he's very young, you know, and I
• 2:02:35
  want to see. I don't want to put too much on
• 2:02:37
  him cuz I don't know what he's got.
• 2:02:38
  I just want to see. I seen him getting a couple
• 2:02:40
  games and I seen it move some people but I want to see.
• 2:02:43
  Kenny do that consistently, you know, what to say?
• 2:02:45
  Cause you're talking about, starting on that line at the one
• 2:02:49
  of those compositions man, you're gonna go up against some
• 2:02:52
  high-profile guys. Like you talk about a plan FSU,
• 2:02:57
  you know what I'm saying, along with some of these other teams
• 2:03:00
  and you're gonna go and get some Um, I'm gonna get some defensive
• 2:03:03
  ends just going to give you going to bring it.
• 2:03:05
  So I'll be I'll be interested to see Chapman just a person on the
• 2:03:12
  line that I'll be looking for. Then of course I know we talked
• 2:03:14
  about a little bit. I'm always gonna look at my
• 2:03:16
  tight ends, you know what I'm saying?
• 2:03:18
  I feel like they're extensions out of line.
• 2:03:21
  All Gallo, gets a Gallo, gets a bad rap but I think Gallup does
• 2:03:24
  his job. He reminds me a lot of, you know
• 2:03:27
  what? Ryan Mallett.
• 2:03:28
  He reminds me a lot of him as far.
• 2:03:31
  What he does and what he brings we've seen him.
• 2:03:34
  Catch a couple of passes and you know take them for 20 30 40
• 2:03:38
  yards, he's not a burner, he's not going to do anything special
• 2:03:43
  in the past game but when he can be effective in the past game
• 2:03:48
  but stay in and keep people off of our running back our
• 2:03:51
  quarterback, it's gonna help us win some games so yeah, he's
• 2:03:55
  been there a long time to you know, I'm saying that so if
• 2:03:59
  nothing else he's got to be a leader to Ooh, these young guys
• 2:04:03
  in the tight end room and on the and on the offensive line
• 2:04:07
  because he's lined up beside those titian's, I meant beside
• 2:04:10
  those tackles and stuff as well. And he's like, hey, This guy
• 2:04:15
  showing Knuckles, this guy's white-knuckle, this guy's this,
• 2:04:17
  you gotta know what's going. You gotta know what's coming.
• 2:04:20
  So that is, that is a big development of what will have on
• 2:04:23
  the line as well. So oh yeah.
• 2:04:28
  So it's going to be a fun spring game and believe it or not,
• 2:04:31
  boys, we have went over two hours.
• 2:04:34
  Oh, no. Like I told you yesterday this
• 2:04:37
  thing was going to be well over to.
• 2:04:39
  I know it was, it was but I mean, we head to the spring game
• 2:04:43
  is for games away. Four days away, not for games
• 2:04:47
  away. Lord have mercy, because you how
• 2:04:49
  long my day was after 11:30, Curtis was going, insane.
• 2:04:54
  Got to outfit just about an hour.
• 2:05:02
  Most days I'm going to bed by 9:30.
• 2:05:04
  We got an old you turning 40 days.
• 2:05:06
  Riding up to listen to listen to the podcast, we appreciate it.
• 2:05:44
  That is true. You got an hour on all of us.
• 2:05:47
  Yeah, that's true. I was working at home tomorrow.
• 2:05:49
  We could go another hour, but I'm going to wrap it because I
• 2:05:53
  want to get some sleep. Yeah, nothing too crazy here.
• 2:05:58
  I don't get sleep. I don't, especially on this one
• 2:06:02
  that wakes up really early every day.
• 2:06:05
  He went over, what? Moorhead don't have kids, but I
• 2:06:08
  still probably go to bed earlier than I know you do.
• 2:06:11
  That's it up at 5:30 had to be at work at 7:00.
• 2:06:15
  Anything breaking just, just to lick her heart's here.
• 2:06:20
  Well, we still got, hey, we all we got to do is third quarter,
• 2:06:25
  we down by 10, we have to cut this one, we got to cut this
• 2:06:29
  lead. We got to go into the fourth
• 2:06:30
  quarter being down by no more than 7 and will we?
• 2:06:33
  They got let's look at this let's look at this first half.
• 2:06:36
  The difference, is they made more threes in us?
• 2:06:38
  They took more free throws and most that's the difference.
• 2:06:41
  Yep. Flip it around.
• 2:06:43
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