Latest / 暮らし百景 / #249Mike Davis|眺めのいい土蔵
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- 0:00Yeah、 I'd like to hear。 About the like silly、 yes、 and。
- 0:07First of all? why why you interested in
- 0:13Japanese? Culture I think there's、 two
- 0:19main reasons、 but before that open no reason there's、 one more
- 0:25reason so I'm from。 California minami、 California
- 0:32and my hometown has many people from Asia。
- 0:40it's mainly at Vietnam and Korea so around my house is a career
- 0:49town and little Saigon which is Vietnamese town?
- 0:57And so my high school student population is sixty percent。
- 1:04Asian。 So I think I had Asian friends
- 1:09and eight some Asian food、 and so a little bit I felt interest
- 1:15in Asia yeah。 but I didn't have there were
- 1:20there were no Japanese people。 But I think that is start of the
- 1:26interest in Asia。 And then when。
- 1:29I went to college I wanted to study Vietnamese that this
- 1:41school doesn't have Vietnamese and so they had Korean and
- 1:47Japanese another Community College near my house。
- 1:51They have the enemies、 but I didn't go to this school、 I went
- 1:55to this school、 and then also at the Community College。
- 1:59I met some Japanese students who are studying in America、 and
- 2:06learning。 English、 and we became friends
- 2:10and so I took the Japanese class so I met those friends。
- 2:17but also at that time。 So this is right after high
- 2:24school okay。 so I'm about eighteen years old
- 2:28and I became interested in meditation and buddism、 yeah。
- 2:34like the Buddhist philosophy。 thinking not so much。
- 2:43Pray to about IT、 but philosophy and meditation and so I was
- 2:49reading books about brutism and there are many books about Zen
- 2:57Japanese Zen books、 so I was reading that and doing some
- 3:03meditation learn about dogan or something and?
- 3:11There's beautiful temples in Japan and oh。
- 3:15it's interesting み た い な。 yeah so。
- 3:18Which is which is false? that you interested in Japanese、
- 3:23or and Buddhism? I have。
- 3:26Buddhism Buddhism、 yeah、 the Buddhist books、 also I ran by
- 3:33there is famous Vietnamese monk、 お 坊 さ ん so。
- 3:40I read his books、 then also I read so Japanese、 then books and
- 3:50then I met some Japanese friends、 and then also so that
- 3:56the Buddhism is The One reason。 And。
- 3:59Another reason is since I was very young I'm music otak。
- 4:09My father is also music otucker and he played base in the band、
- 4:16and he has so we have the instrument in my house and my
- 4:22father has many records。 and many CDs、 so I love music
- 4:28and so the Japanese friends、 I met they showed me Japanese。
- 4:37Fashion magazine from Tokyo this is nineteen ninety six と か か ら
- 4:46nineteen ninety six so it's like the 渋 谷 渋 谷 KK and so I'm
- 4:54looking at the magazine。 and how did you go fashion and
- 4:57crazy、 and well looks so fun and also in the back of the
- 5:03magazine。 There's the review for CD な ん か
- 5:09今 月 の お す す め と か and so I'm in California but I'm looking at
- 5:13Japanese magazine、 and the CD review、 it's really like mannac
- 5:18crazy music。 the I know the music、 but in
- 5:24America、 only the old Tucker people know but it's in the
- 5:28Japanese magazine、 so Japan。 Has a good music taste and then
- 5:35my friend said yes there's many good bikeward stores in Tokyo、
- 5:40and many people love music、 and live house and clubs and Japan
- 5:48seems very fun for music culture と か。
- 5:51fashion culture so that's the second reason so brutism and
- 5:58Tokyo music、 and。 What kind of music?
- 6:02the Japanese music? In the magazine was American
- 6:06Music、 or Sometimes UK、 but but in America、 most people don't
- 6:13know so very minor な の に、 it's in the Japanese magazine、 so
- 6:19then I ask my friends、 how about Japanese music is there、
- 6:25something you recommend。 But most of my friends、 listened
- 6:30to some normal Japanese music at that。
- 6:36Time、 time。 So nineteen nineties だ か ら I
- 6:40don't remember but a snap and a snap utter fruits、 I listened
- 6:46and I can't remember what else but that do you die and some
- 6:54friends listened to some Japanese punk music。
- 6:57That's interesting、 but the first Japanese music that I
- 7:04thought was very fresh and like I was interested in at that time
- 7:11was Cornelius yeah Mother cable、 yeah yeah。
- 7:15so that time the album name is fantasma album so that。
- 7:23Came out and it's very fresh sound at that time and so I
- 7:28became very big cornelious fan。 yeah。
- 7:31so。 So kendiosawa yes。
- 7:34Yes yes、 yes right right、 so、 I was at junior college、 but I
- 7:39want to go to University so。 I have to study two years of a
- 7:46language so some a foreign language。
- 7:51So can be anything French、 German、 I tried German actually
- 7:56but after six months、 I thought and so then I tried Japanese、
- 8:02and then I started Japanese at the junior college for I think
- 8:08one and a half years and the teacher at the junior college he
- 8:15said you a time interested in the music、 and。
- 8:21Japanese fashion and nantella and the records so he said you
- 8:26should go to Japan。 you will have so much fun when
- 8:29you're young and I said of course。
- 8:31I want to go、 but I don't know how to go he said if you
- 8:35graduate from University、 and you have the University degree、
- 8:40you can get a job teaching English in Japan、 oh very so he
- 8:46told me about this program for teaching English。
- 8:51Connected to Japanese、 and then because at the University、 I
- 8:57didn't know what I want to study、 so I was very data data、
- 9:02so usually the junior college is two years、 but I was four years
- 9:10four。 Years。
- 9:11And stop Sometimes I quit and just working yeah、 and then go
- 9:16back to school。 I don't know what to do but。
- 9:19But then so that was my reason now I thought all if to teach
- 9:24English in Japan your major can be anything so I thought oh I
- 9:31can just study something I enjoy and then get the four year
- 9:36degree I'll go to University and I start to study hard and then I
- 9:45transferred to the UCLA。 And Los Angeles、 and so then
- 9:52after I graduated。 簡。
- 9:55単 に 言 う と、 then I came to Japan to teach English。
- 9:59What was your major of the UCLA? British studies so it's very
- 10:07useless so the very interesting。 But Maybe we jumped some things
- 10:15I don't know、 if you want to go back。
- 10:17But yes okay many first came to Japan。
- 10:22yeah。 you teach English。
- 10:25First yes yes、 so we live in soccer ho、 but at that time。
- 10:33Directly yes。 And before soccerho IT was
- 10:38jachiho murder、 and soccer match、 so I was。
- 10:42Junior high school あ や ち ほ む ら。 junior high school teacher you、
- 10:48choose。 や ち ほ む ら no no accidentally。
- 10:52So this program you can't choose where you go。
- 10:57so anywhere in Japan usually not always but Maybe sixty seventy
- 11:02percent of the people go to inaka but countryside。
- 11:08Of course you wanted to work at Tokyo。
- 11:12Host so a little bit but I knew my chances of the city is small、
- 11:19so I'll go anywhere、 and after that I can go somewhere else if
- 11:26I want to go so today I just go to Japan、 they say in English
- 11:34English。 Hogan is get my foot in the
- 11:37door。 Ah、 so it's like the before the
- 11:39door。 closes you stop IT、 so today's
- 11:43it's hydro、 so so。 At that time。
- 11:47your destiny was decided。 So that's。
- 11:50right yeah。 so village now twenty two years
- 11:54later and Still Here。 so IT was thinks to Japanese。
- 12:05What kind of the school? the first you teached the small
- 12:09school。 や ち ほ む ら、 junior high school。
- 12:12Junior high school。 Yeah。
- 12:14や ち ほ む ら junior high school at that time and nikkummizes and
- 12:21about twenty five students each yeah。
- 12:25but ten years after that each kumizes yeah。
- 12:32Then you worked only the English teaching。
- 12:35Yes for one year and then I wanted to studies、 Japanese more
- 12:46and also I wanted a small town is great、 but as the English
- 12:54teacher at the junior high school、 you are part of the
- 12:58yakuba and 教 育 委 員 会 is the sickening shot so。
- 13:04They are very helpful、 but too much so at that time、 I was
- 13:14twenty six years old、 so I want a little more independence and I
- 13:22want to study Japanese、 so I found the language Japanese
- 13:29language school in Kyoto、 Kyoto。 And it's full time school so
- 13:36about four or five hours a day and a lot of homework so I
- 13:44changed to student VISA and I went I moved to Kyoto、 how about
- 13:50Seven or eight months but before I went to Kyoto I already
- 13:56decided to go to Kyoto。 and then I met。
- 14:03My now wife and she is from yachiho so I went to Children
- 14:11but I came back after I finished the school came back to yachiho。
- 14:18but after I finished the school。 what should I do so I wanted to
- 14:27be with her so I moved back here。
- 14:31And got the job at a kaiwa school Maybe in the future if I
- 14:37have Children or my own business living in Nagano is nice。
- 14:43but at that time I'm still young and just working at a kaiwa so
- 14:52Nagano life is little boring at that time boring so I want to
- 14:58experience Tokyo so。 We moved to Tokyo and with my at
- 15:06that time my girlfriends but yeah。
- 15:08we move to Tokyo together and we lived in Tokyo for three years、
- 15:14and in that time we got married and then two thousand ten my
- 15:26wife got pregnant and。 Also my friend from soccer area
- 15:40he was Japanese Sky、 but he was living in Australia、 but he came
- 15:45back here and he said let's start English school together。
- 15:54OK I was still in Tokyo。 Soon I will have a baby yeah だ か
- 16:00ら Maybe we were thinking Maybe go back to Nagano か な。
- 16:05but then my friend said let's、 start business together、 oh
- 16:08that's good idea、 and so we moved back to Nagano。
- 16:13two thousand ten and started a Kayla school with my friend and
- 16:22you were mood of that。 Actually、 it's、 still、 ま だ あ る、
- 16:29but I'm not working there。 Other person worked at the
- 16:37yvamurada yes。 And my friend is still Japanese
- 16:42owner、 then he hired another OK English、 teacher yeah、 so two
- 16:48thousand seventeen。 I stopped working there to
- 16:56prepare to move back to California and two thousand
- 17:01eighteen。 my family and I moved back to
- 17:05California for three。 Years you plan to stay、
- 17:12California、 the continuously。 No、 no、 we planned、 the three
- 17:18years then for what actually three and a half。
- 17:22Main reason was we wanted our kids to speak English fluently、
- 17:31and also experience American culture and to spend time with
- 17:39my parents yes。 At the time、 your daughter was
- 17:45how。 Old oldest was eight and
- 17:49youngest was four。 あ あ yeah good time yeah yeah そ う
- 17:54そ う I'm only child I don't have brothers or sisters OK so my
- 17:59kids are only grand the Children for my parents so then live in
- 18:09another country so 寂 し い so い や ち ゃ ん と 時 間 作 っ て あ げ た い。
- 18:18And we lived at my parents house for three and half years、 yes。
- 18:25So they your parents are still missing you。
- 18:29Yes、 yes I。 Think so。
- 18:34And the grand's kids yeah、 but before that my kids didn't speak
- 18:38English well。 so they couldn't make deep
- 18:42relationship with my parents、 but now they made deep。
- 18:46Connection so good。 good。
- 18:49So four、 three years、 when are you stating、 California、 what
- 18:54did you do? So basically。
- 18:55IT was a little bit like vacation、 time for me and my
- 19:00wife、 we didn't have to pay for the rent。
- 19:04so we just needed to make money for food and lifestyle、 do you
- 19:12got life? so?
- 19:16I worked part time at my kids elementary school yeah。
- 19:25just twenty hours a week and then my wife worked at organic
- 19:32form about fifteen hours a week。 I think took time so for me I
- 19:39wanted to really focus on meditation so。
- 19:45And my wife was doing many things she wants to do so kind
- 19:50of our time to focus on ourself。 You、 plan to。
- 19:56Live。 Japan after living in
- 20:00California、 three years you、 didn't think the continue to
- 20:05leave California。 Right right because many
- 20:09reasons、 but。 One reason is California is very
- 20:18expensive、 like just for two bedroom apartment、 Maybe
- 20:28immediate on or something for a month、 so and another reason is
- 20:39at that time、 I worked in Japan for fifteen years。
- 20:44Sixteen years so I have no work experience in America so it's
- 20:52difficult for me to get good job in America。
- 20:57probably I have to go back to school and get some teacher
- 21:02license or something yeah in Japan、 I can buy this house very
- 21:09cheap and beautiful location and I can。
- 21:14何? do some small business at my
- 21:18home in America? a California much more difficult
- 21:23to do some business at your home?
- 21:26so any basically、 Japan is much easier for me。
- 21:31yeah to live a comfortable。 lifestyle、 yeah basically、 and
- 21:41of course we love Japan and。 So there's。
- 21:46good things about America、 too and both of my kids personality
- 21:55change after living in America、 so that's good I think they have
- 22:00Japanese and American good points。
- 22:04Yeah。 I think so。
- 22:05But I think especially countryside in Japan is very
- 22:09safe and very peaceful、 and relaxing and。
- 22:14Cheaper yeah so and we have good community of friends here so
- 22:22yeah、 then。 What?
- 22:25Did you start? To make a coffee。
- 22:28This goes back to before a very long time Maybe before I came to
- 22:35Japan、 who I just my fantasy was。
- 22:43So at that time I'm going to University、 but my plan is to go
- 22:49to Japan。 right teach English so then。
- 22:52I thought IT would be so fun to have my own shop like a record
- 22:58shop、 Maybe records and some food or coffee and records。
- 23:05I thought at that time、 but just fantasy and then。
- 23:12Done done that change it's a living in this area and I
- 23:17thought my record shop shut off to difficult so no customers
- 23:24yeah so but yeah。 some kind of old house and the
- 23:28cafe or something at that time my wife was also interested and
- 23:34Maybe doing cafe because she's very good at cooking yeah so。
- 23:40For yeah、 Maybe years we had fantasy about doing that and
- 23:47then in mochizuki、 there's yushi cafe and that open yeah。
- 23:56Maybe about twenty years ago now but right after IT。
- 24:01open yeah。 I was talking to someone and。
- 24:06Telling them I want to make cafe and they said there's a new cafe
- 24:11in multi zuki、 Maybe you like IT、 and I went there and I
- 24:18thought this is what I wanted to do み た い な so at that time。
- 24:28long time ago。 so there's not so many
- 24:30interesting shops around here at that time。
- 24:33So や っ た。 あ あ や ら れ た。
- 24:36み た い な。 最 近 に。
- 24:37so I started to go to yushi。 cafe yeah、 regularly。
- 24:45and yushi and I are same。 age。
- 24:48and we became friends。 and so then、 after some time
- 24:56into that on IT about two thousand thirteen。
- 25:00or fourteen we had。 Possible location to make cafe
- 25:09and so yeah。 we are start to make plans to do
- 25:14cafe at the location in cycle and you。
- 25:21she said if you're doing coffee、 you should roast your own
- 25:27coffee。 because one it's fun。
- 25:31And more interesting、 and the customers are more interested、
- 25:36and interesting for you too、 and too you make much more money、
- 25:41because the kimami is much cheaper、 so it's better for
- 25:47business、 so I thought that sounds nice、 but I can't buy
- 25:54coffee roasting machine、 so expensive so you、 she said。
- 26:01I'll teach you how to do it and actually he also when he started
- 26:07you she cafe he didn't have a roster yet and he learned from
- 26:14another coffee shop in I know。 Komodo、 bill。
- 26:17coffee yes。 Exactly and so he used to go
- 26:22there and rose the coffee and bring IT to his stuff so、 he
- 26:25said I will do same for you and so。
- 26:30I started going there at that time。
- 26:33I still don't have a cafe so I was just practicing yeah。
- 26:38I was that that time。 I don't know I once a month or
- 26:43twice a month。 I go and I rose the coffee and
- 26:47take some home so。 I was roasting you she's coffee、
- 26:54then the location。 だ め に な っ ち ゃ っ た。
- 26:59I can't use this place、 but I'm already practicing the roasting
- 27:05so on what should I do then at that time。
- 27:11our English school is and even mood the 商 店 街。
- 27:17but small location and so we decided we should move to bigger
- 27:23location。 so we move to the English
- 27:27school。 From iwomuda the 商 店 街 to in
- 27:31front of iwomuded the station near sanku chosen and the new
- 27:36location、 but all the location is a 商 店 街、 corner shop kadow
- 27:43wall so it's、 nice spot、 so な ん か も っ た い な い and then my
- 27:49English school business partner。 from call me call me guy。
- 27:55He was very interested in Japanese clothing maker like
- 28:03using him or eizome、 or、 but also casual like this、 or some
- 28:11denom、 and so he also was thinking about making side
- 28:18business、 so he was thinking of make the location there。
- 28:24And but then I don't have location now、 so why don't we
- 28:30make coffee and clothing yes so we made the shop there at that
- 28:39time I had second child so two young kids and working at
- 28:44English school。 so I friend he is single and no
- 28:50kids so he。 He was more that shops owner and
- 28:55he spent much more time、 making the shop、 so we made the counter
- 28:59in there and we need to drip coffee there and also show the
- 29:05coffee beans and clothing and nice so those three years about
- 29:14once a week、 I early in the morning go to UC cafe and rose。
- 29:22Now I'm by my own kimami and rose my coffee there yeah very
- 29:30interesting yeah、 so Maybe two or three days a week I go to
- 29:35coffee shop and then go to English school and so。
- 29:39So I didn't know the relationship about the between U
- 29:46and UC。 You are interesting。
- 29:48yeah。 そ う、 め っ ち ゃ お 世 話 に な っ て る。
- 29:50あ ー 大 好 き。 I love you see so much you。
- 29:53Know the beginning of UC cafe い。 や ま あ。
- 29:56Maybe first or second year cuta、 I went there Maybe 二 年 目 か ら I
- 30:03went there yes。 yes。
- 30:08interesting yeah。 long time friend。
- 30:14My as you know problem、 but he's so helpful so everyone yes yes、
- 30:20and then this year twenty twenty no twenty twenty four last year
- 30:28yeah。 twenty twenty four、 I started
- 30:31new coffee business again。 then。
- 30:34Now you're roasting your coffee here。
- 30:38Yes。 But having your own roast、 study
- 30:41machine。 yes。
- 30:44Do you have any plan? how the dozel coffee will grow
- 30:50grow。 As you know now、 I don't have
- 30:56cafe I don't have a drinking place like cafe so I sell the
- 31:04coffee beams to customers around here and。
- 31:13To cafe I sell monthly and they use my coffee beans at their
- 31:22cafe。 so in the future。
- 31:27so now my roster is in the kuda next。
- 31:31to my house so I hope to make counter space and。
- 31:42Place for people to come here and yeah sample coffee by the
- 31:50coffee beans enjoy the view and also Maybe that what's IT that's
- 32:00a man な ん て い う ね。 I don't know just a huckle naya
- 32:05naya bar。 yeah Maybe very simple style
- 32:10like。 The first floor can't use but
- 32:14the second floor just open space、 so Maybe make some simple
- 32:20stairs。 you can drink and enjoy that
- 32:24that。 Place is very super。
- 32:25Boyfriend yeah、 so so yeah。 I do some events like シ ー ン 会 or
- 32:35coffee? 瞑 想 会 と か。
- 32:40This month actually、 I am doing Oh yeah。
- 32:42yeah。 yeah。
- 32:43both yes that's my life。 That's your life。
- 32:48So、 こ の 形 式 の お か げ で 生 き て 生 き て こ ら れ た と い う。
- 32:57when life is crazy、 and super stressed about money or
- 33:02everything like come and sit here and you can let go。
- 33:10Beautiful。