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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Sounds of the Panthers - Luke Kuechly HOF Edition · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, we taught him everything.
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  Speaker 2: He knows.
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  Speaker 1: These are things that he did, you know, throughout his career.
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  Speaker 1: And the bottom line has moved the chains and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're playing a lot of match coverage with one backer inside,
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  Speaker 1: so they kind of just drained everybody out. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: typically you play a mobile quarterback like that, there's someone
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  Speaker 1: spying for the quarterback and they were playing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: pretty much like the preseason coverages, and so he saw
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  Speaker 1: it open up. They had good coverage on it. He
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  Speaker 1: took the yards and kept the drive alive.
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  Speaker 3: So that was a really good play.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Dave Canalis after the game talking about the running ability
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  Speaker 5: of Haines King, especially on that big long one on
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  Speaker 5: third down bone where he kept going and the sea
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  Speaker 5: parted for him, and then he had to Wherewithoughts, Steve
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  Speaker 5: Lambeau cat like cam in the open field. Now we're talking, baby,
• 1:09
  Speaker 5: now we're talking. And then had the presence of mind
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  Speaker 5: to get out of bounds too, get out of bounds
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  Speaker 5: as well. And I was just looking at some of
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  Speaker 5: the tweets from last night, like literally as the game
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  Speaker 5: ended and the national media just going off on Haines
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  Speaker 5: King and going off on the excitement of the Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame game. I mean, America was entertained.
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  Speaker 6: You tweeted out, we're talking about two greats today, will
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  Speaker 6: Kick Lee and Haynes King. It pretty much sums up
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  Speaker 6: the show right now. I have to question, though, is
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  Speaker 6: that the order awesome back. I'm just now realizing NFL
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  Speaker 6: dot Com, we haven't talked about how the team celebrated
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  Speaker 6: last night when he went into the end zone and
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  Speaker 6: won the game. They're all jumping in a pile, and
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  Speaker 6: right outside the pile standing around watching these guys celebrate,
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  Speaker 6: trying to get in his number forty four J J Jansen, JJ.
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  Speaker 4: How you leave JJ celebration? Young kid, it looks like
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  Speaker 4: he needs to be invited into the file. How do
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: you not let him in? Baby? Someone take him on
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  Speaker 4: the graps. I will I'll say this too. I liked Bryce.
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  Speaker 5: Bryce had the Cam Newton preseason cheerleader on the sideline
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  Speaker 5: energy last night, and I'm here for that.
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  Speaker 4: I think you can.
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  Speaker 5: I think you tell a lot about how much of
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  Speaker 5: a team guy, your backup quarterback, ere your starting quarterback is,
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  Speaker 5: by truly how excited you are for your teammates. And
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: he was going crazy last night for Haines King, for
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  Speaker 5: all those wide receivers down the depth chart that needed
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  Speaker 5: big games and had him last night. So I thought
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  Speaker 5: that was pretty cool. All right, So this segment is
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  Speaker 5: going to be We're gonna We're gonna let you hear
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  Speaker 5: a bunch of clips from Luke Keithley's Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 5: presser yesterday. We're gonna let you hear that that's coming
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  Speaker 5: up at seven twenty five, including some great.
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  Speaker 4: Stuff on Cam and Luke.
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  Speaker 5: And there is a journalist and I use that term loosely,
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  Speaker 5: who asked him a question that enrages me. It just
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  Speaker 5: I'm in a rage that this question was asked to
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  Speaker 5: Luke during a day Hall of Fame press conference.
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  Speaker 4: But before we get to you've got the gift of
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  Speaker 4: rage that Trevor.
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  Speaker 5: Maddet I do. I got it, baby, I got it.
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  Speaker 5: But let's start with the preseason game last night. Who
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  Speaker 5: did we like? Who do you think deserves some love?
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  Speaker 5: Where you're like that was that performance is notable in
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  Speaker 5: a good way? And who do we say disappointed last night?
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  Speaker 5: Who has to be mentioned in that way? Obviously, Haines
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  Speaker 5: King comes to mind first in terms of the positive
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  Speaker 5: side of things.
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  Speaker 6: What else, are you thinking what about Jimmy Warren Junior.
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  Speaker 6: That's four catches forty four yards. Haines missed him on
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  Speaker 6: a possible touchdown that he could have had last night.
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  Speaker 6: I thought, for a guy that we think is fighting
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  Speaker 6: for a roster spot, thought all the wide receivers had
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  Speaker 6: their moments last night that played. But I thought Jimmy
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  Speaker 6: Horn Junior showed well last night in a game where
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  Speaker 6: we really had to.
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  Speaker 4: Definitely, Oh, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: And you're right, there were a bunch of wide receivers
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  Speaker 5: that did step up and make plays.
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  Speaker 4: I thought she had.
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  Speaker 5: Mechi and Horne have both been pretty darn quiet in
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  Speaker 5: camp so far, and I thought they changed that last night.
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  Speaker 5: Both made multiple plays. Mechi also used as a kick return,
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  Speaker 5: had a pre damn good kick return, just seem reed.
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  Speaker 5: Bone caught the touchdown pass, had a couple of catches,
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  Speaker 5: he didn't drop one in fairness, but he also had
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  Speaker 5: a nice kick return as well. They so they it's
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  Speaker 5: interesting they're giving a look seet to some of these
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  Speaker 5: other wide receivers in the kick return game. But yeah, Haines,
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  Speaker 5: King and some of these down the line wide receivers
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  Speaker 5: made plays I'll even call out Tremaine as we're as
• 4:33
  Speaker 5: we are buried Bone at like our one inch line
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  Speaker 5: early in the game, Bryson Tremaine draws that PI downfield that.
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  Speaker 4: Allows allowed us to get out of jail.
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  Speaker 6: Essentially, whether it's practice or whatever, he's a very active player.
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  Speaker 6: It seems like eighty seven. When he's out there, you
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  Speaker 6: always notice he's doing something out there. Might not always
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  Speaker 6: be a big play, sometimes it's the little things. But
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  Speaker 6: I feel like he's one of those guys that maybe
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  Speaker 6: the stats will always tell the story when it comes
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  Speaker 6: to pricing.
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  Speaker 5: For me, blocking and special teams too, you know, those
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  Speaker 5: are the things that he'll do. But anyway, I gave
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  Speaker 5: him a little shout out for that there is I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to act like Bone. This is going to
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  Speaker 5: give us three straight hours of material with the greats
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  Speaker 5: like Luke and Haynes to talk about. But there are
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  Speaker 5: multiple texts about Trevin Wallace. I mean we mentioned this
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  Speaker 5: in the first Salesman is all over him on Twitter
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  Speaker 5: on the text line, I was surprised he played first
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  Speaker 5: of all, right, because Canal said starters won't play. But
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  Speaker 5: there might be some guys that are battling for starting
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  Speaker 5: jobs playing Does that mean he's his starting job is
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  Speaker 5: not safe because it's not like our linebacker depth is
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  Speaker 5: great behind him. It's not him, then who would it be? Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's not like, you know, you wouldn't think cherildless.
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  Speaker 6: There's unless they would go outside that you'd find someone
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  Speaker 6: that doesn't make a rosser or something you.
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  Speaker 5: Wouldn't think cheriless or bam, Martin Scott are breathing down
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  Speaker 5: his neck or they should be. But yeah, I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was a pretty nondescript night for Trevin Wallace. Matter
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  Speaker 5: of fact, the only real notable play Andy'll might remember
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  Speaker 5: something like in but the only notable play in my
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  Speaker 5: mind is in coverage when you know he and Cheryl
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  Speaker 5: List got beat down the middle of the field. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: and you said it bone this young guy. We want
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  Speaker 5: to like you're a starter, or at least we think
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  Speaker 5: you are. Kind of thought you'd flash a little bit more,
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  Speaker 5: you know, against the competition you're playing against.
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  Speaker 6: It's like when we watch T John play in Vegas
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  Speaker 6: and he's in his third year. You're playing against guys
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  Speaker 6: where you should be putting up and doing some pretty
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  Speaker 6: special things. The fact that you didn't last night. Drevin
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  Speaker 6: Wallace definitely a cause for concern here. Why backers outside
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  Speaker 6: of Devin Lloyd is already a question, and I thought
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  Speaker 6: Wallace would really we'll see him play together here at
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  Speaker 6: some point, but that's definitely an area of concern right now.
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  Speaker 5: I do think you got to see him with Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 5: I do expect that to help him, you know what
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  Speaker 5: I mean. When you have a guy like that to
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  Speaker 5: cover so much ground, I do think it'll make Trevin
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  Speaker 5: Wallace's job easier.
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  Speaker 6: Devin Lloyd ranked in the Pro Football Focus linebacker rankings.
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  Speaker 6: That's all linebackers, not just specific to a position. At
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  Speaker 6: the linebacker spot, Devin Lloyd ranked the third best linebacker
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  Speaker 6: in football.
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  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
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  Speaker 6: Fred Warder was one, and I forget who too was,
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  Speaker 6: But Devin lloydst He's up there an elite company. Princely
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  Speaker 6: is getting.
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  Speaker 5: We're talking about who's stuck out in a good way
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  Speaker 5: last night, who stuck out in a bad way last night?
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  Speaker 5: Princely people are taking a couple of people are taking
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  Speaker 5: shots at Princely.
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  Speaker 4: Doc calls him hot garbage.
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  Speaker 5: That might be a little a little aggressive, but seven
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  Speaker 5: O four numbers, says I can't believe Princely dude was
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  Speaker 5: so arrogant he thought he was getting the night off
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  Speaker 5: and then he plays and barely does a damn thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I mean I still got a night off. I kind
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  Speaker 5: of had similar thoughts. It was kind of funny, and
• 7:47
  Speaker 5: it's like, no, bro, you were not on the jumpsuit team.
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  Speaker 5: You were not you were needed out there early. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't think there was much flashing from him that
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  Speaker 5: I would have hoped. I thought the pass rush early
• 7:58
  Speaker 5: in the game when Carson was destroying us, I thought
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  Speaker 5: it was dang near non existent.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I really did so.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of those edges that are like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: depth edges, those cats, you know, I didn't think they
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  Speaker 5: shined in the first half. I did think Thomas inkomb though.
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  Speaker 5: As the game went on. I thought he flashed and
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  Speaker 5: made a bunch of plays getting in the backfield with pressures,
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  Speaker 5: had a tackle near the line of scrimmage as well.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna call Princely hot garbage.
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  Speaker 6: I want to see him play with the with Derek
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  Speaker 6: Brown and Jaylen's the actual starter before I start on a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of garbage.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not a guy that's probably gonna dominate yet
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  Speaker 6: on his owner. That's a little cold.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, Tampa Tammy is trying to talk to us,
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  Speaker 5: Tampa Tammy, we are the best team in the NFL
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  Speaker 5: right now, the only one and oh team in the
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  Speaker 5: NFL South three, best.
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  Speaker 4: Third string quarterback in the NFL. I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna talk to us.
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  Speaker 6: Today, Vita vea. Tampa Tammy's here, Yeah, you want to
• 8:55
  Speaker 6: talk to her. Okay, Baker, are you still upset? Okay,
• 8:59
  Speaker 6: Tampa Tammy's here.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, she now she is screaming at us
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  Speaker 5: out so I thank god we have soundproof windows.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, all right, let's see the secondary guys back there.
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  Speaker 6: You know, Will Lee made a play early and then
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  Speaker 6: he just got completely worked right after that. The secondary guys,
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  Speaker 6: Caleb Evans Lee not exactly the best night there. Carson
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  Speaker 6: Beck was carving him up there, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, those corners we were asking yesterday, are
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  Speaker 5: Thornton and Will Lee get a play, you know?
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  Speaker 4: Or do they end up sitting out? Well?
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  Speaker 5: They played, and yeah, Will Lee had some good moments,
• 9:36
  Speaker 5: had a pass breakup, had a couple stops you know
• 9:38
  Speaker 5: out you know, out in the flat and stuff like that,
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  Speaker 5: playing the run game. But yeah, he just bit pure
• 9:43
  Speaker 5: rookie moment on a double move and got beat over
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  Speaker 5: the top. And you're right, he wasn't alone. I didn't
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  Speaker 5: think it was a great night for Corey Thornton. You know,
• 9:50
  Speaker 5: I'm leading his fan club, but I didn't think he
• 9:53
  Speaker 5: sees his opportunity either, gave up. I think it's at
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  Speaker 5: least three catches including the touchdown, and then Caleb Evans,
• 10:00
  Speaker 5: another guy beat on a double move.
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  Speaker 4: Deep.
• 10:02
  Speaker 5: People do love the Ransom hit, though unfortunately the guy
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  Speaker 5: held I don't know how the guy held on to
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  Speaker 5: the football on that Ransom hit.
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  Speaker 6: Ransom held up the other day in practice right against
• 10:14
  Speaker 6: the was it Fandos fan fast where Ransom held up
• 10:17
  Speaker 6: and didn't really clean somebody's clock. I could have cobliterated Coke. Well,
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  Speaker 6: he decided last night, now I can do it. Now
• 10:21
  Speaker 6: I can do it first.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah he took.
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  Speaker 5: He was like probably frustrated. He's like, when I get
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: a chance to hit somebody. Howard points out Bobby Wagner
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: still a free agent. The thing with Bobby Wagner is,
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: I mean he just doesn't move obviously like he used to. Now,
• 10:38
  Speaker 5: I mean, could you get him as a guy that
• 10:40
  Speaker 5: plays the rundowns for you kind of and doesn't need
• 10:43
  Speaker 5: to move around a lot. I don't know Seattle ties.
• 10:46
  Speaker 5: We've got a lot of Seattle. We got guys that
• 10:48
  Speaker 5: know him obviously, right and Dan and Dave from the
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: Seattle days, So I don't know. Yeah, Trevin Waller, but
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: let's face it, Trevin Wallace opened up those discussions. Those
• 10:58
  Speaker 5: texts like that will come in because he didn't exactly,
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: as the p man would say, cover himself in glory.
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: I do love to play Isaiah Simmons mate. Robert Rochelle
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  Speaker 5: became the latest corner last night, bone to get beat
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  Speaker 5: deep and Isaiah Simmons came over, made a hell of
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  Speaker 5: a play on the ball man. So I do you
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  Speaker 5: said it last night? You wanted to see a little
• 11:19
  Speaker 5: defensively from Isaiah Simmons. We know special teams. He's a
• 11:22
  Speaker 5: player that was a hell of a play man. Back
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: to back text going after Sam Heck.
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  Speaker 4: Last night, Sam Heck get in the business. Sam Heck
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  Speaker 4: bloked her off.
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  Speaker 6: Not even a competition at center anymore, Kevin says. The
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  Speaker 6: guy who underwhelmed for me was Sam Heck. He did
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  Speaker 6: have a bad snap.
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  Speaker 5: That led to that tackle for loss, like he kind
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  Speaker 5: of put it up in his own booty lack of
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: for lack of a more professional terminology.
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  Speaker 4: You don't get that every football.
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  Speaker 5: So it like took Haynes a while to get it
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  Speaker 5: out of there and then hand it off and then
• 11:51
  Speaker 5: it was a two yard loss right back there to
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  Speaker 5: the goal line. But I thought the early play from
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  Speaker 5: the offensive line was definitely shaky, like the offensive line depth,
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: tackle depth. I mean, Reese and Forsyth were the starting
• 12:05
  Speaker 5: tackles last night.
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  Speaker 4: I thought they both had a couple of rough moments.
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  Speaker 5: I thought even Brady c and Carter inside had I
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  Speaker 5: didn't think it was great from the offensive line early
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  Speaker 5: in the game necessarily, So I do think offensive line depth.
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: Were worried about defensive depth. Hey, those guys weren't really
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  Speaker 5: great bone defensively as depth guys. But so anyway, we're
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  Speaker 5: not going to overreact though, bone to the negative stuff.
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  Speaker 5: We're just gonna overreact to Haines King today. All right,
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: that's the rule.
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  Speaker 6: A couple Tectors point out, and we said it early
• 12:36
  Speaker 6: in the show, but we will repeat that again. AJ
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  Speaker 6: Dillon looked good last night.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a couple of real good moments. Man
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  Speaker 5: good heard running down there by the goal line catch
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  Speaker 5: a run.
• 12:46
  Speaker 6: Let's be honest, no one, no one wants to grab
• 12:48
  Speaker 6: out of those quads in the Hall of Fame at all.
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  Speaker 5: So what's going on with Dylan? Because how many running
• 12:54
  Speaker 5: backs do they end up keeping?
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  Speaker 4: Bone? Three or four?
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it would have to be four because Eta
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  Speaker 6: and is in their return plans, right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, unless I think, unless Jimmy Horn beats him out
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. I think that.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, I wouldn't mind Dylan being the third back,
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  Speaker 6: but is gonna have to make it because of the
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  Speaker 6: return stuff.
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  Speaker 4: As long as he keeps that return job.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't really have a lot of faith in
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  Speaker 6: atn as like a necessarily a running back at the moment,
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  Speaker 6: but the return stuff, he's got to do that.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, I want I want to see a little
• 13:25
  Speaker 5: more from Quadzilla. I kind of thought Bone I kind
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: of feared that as much fun as he was having
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  Speaker 5: with his Charlotte bucket list, and he's a real cool guy.
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  Speaker 5: I've kind of been fearing man, But he might not
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: even make the team. He might ever get to end
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  Speaker 5: this Charlotte bucket list. I like what I saw last night. Heck,
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  Speaker 5: even in FanFest Bone he made a couple of plays
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  Speaker 5: out of the backfield. Remember that acrobatic catch he had
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  Speaker 5: contested in fan Fest. So like, I never thought of
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  Speaker 5: him really as you know, as a great out of
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  Speaker 5: the backfield receiver, but he's been doing a little bit
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  Speaker 5: of that.
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  Speaker 4: So I want to see what he does the rest
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  Speaker 4: of the pre season.
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  Speaker 6: Is that a spot, you know, the AJ Dillon and
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  Speaker 6: fourth running back spot. Is that something that Haines King
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  Speaker 6: could affect? Yeah, because one of those areas where do
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  Speaker 6: they not want to put Haines on the practice squad
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  Speaker 6: because we'll get scooped up right away. So they're gonna
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  Speaker 6: carry three quarterbacks. And does that affect you know, AJ
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  Speaker 6: Dillon or an extra wide receiver or something like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's it's I think they I think they would value
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  Speaker 6: Haines King not being taken over AJ Dillon. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 6: it's if it came down to that, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: that's the exact one, but it's gonna be something like that.
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  Speaker 5: Last night when he is the uh he and Carson
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  Speaker 5: Beck are the star of stars. Phone on what the
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  Speaker 5: national media calls. Many in the national media are calling
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  Speaker 5: the most entertaining Hall of Fame game ever. He didn't
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: exactly help the cause of being able to stash him
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  Speaker 5: on the practice squad. There's there's no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 5: Uh seven, four, five, seven, nine, six ten. What was good?
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: What was bad? From last night? Bebop is doing what
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: you would expect about Haines King, I mean, working the
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: new number one quarterback, Haines King. Did we Fitty told
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  Speaker 5: me something very disturbing.
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  Speaker 4: Bone.
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  Speaker 5: We have a WFNZ employee apparently that was tweeting that
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  Speaker 5: Haines King could be coming for Bryce's job.
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  Speaker 4: Did this happen? Phitty name? Did this happen? Fit dog?
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  Speaker 4: He wasn't tweeting it. Bo okay, wewist.
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  Speaker 7: Member of the team, Colin Collins Dyson Janis texted us
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  Speaker 7: at nine thirty six pm, Haines King, future Hall of Famer.
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: Get used to Canton, Ohio at eleven o five, told
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: you Bryce better watches back.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Haines is a dog. He is a dog. There's no
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: doubt about that. He's a competitor. Don't make us called
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: the golf shop radio showed up at eleven. He's definitely
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: ready for the Taysom Hill roll.
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: Tasam Hill roll. I will say this. KP and I
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: were talking about that last night. He definitely doesn't quite
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: have the book that Taysom Hill does. Like you can't
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: line him up at tight end. He too thin for that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: I tried my my comment for the four times since
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: he signed here, would we call him haysm anybody there?
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: You go, baby radiohead? There will be a full Haines
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: King segment coming up later on the show. I mean
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: we have to because I think the Number two conversation,
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: like there it is keeping receipts. We don't need pickt.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: The Number two conversation I think is gonna is gonna
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: go bonkers in favor of Haines King this morning.
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: And I'm not.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: Sure we need to go there yet. But man, that
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: was a debut. Like all I want out of them
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: bone is is what they said. They're looking for young
• 16:48
  Speaker 5: developmental QB that can move, and that was a hell
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: of a start for him to establish himself in that role. Man,
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: it really was radio radiohead one or no redhead. I
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: cannot read these text lines. Fanguy fat guy, Yeah, fat guy,
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: Dave I call him it's suposed to be fan guy.
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: Dave redhead Won says, can we get some love for
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: the OC? Definitely again. Now I don't want to go
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: overboard with it. I'll probably I'll probably say that seven
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: hard times a day.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: I don't want to go overboard.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: But I did feel like he schemed guys open quite
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: a few times. Metchi Reid on the touchdown. There was
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: a tight end slip play where he was in his
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: bag on it. So I did kind of like it,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: and I just it just makes so much sense. Mike
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: Tomlin was asked about it on the broadcast last night,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: and he was really praising Canalis and talking about how
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: much he thinks that will help Dave Canalis as a
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: game manager. And Dave Canalis admitted it bone in the
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: production meeting to Collinsworth and Mike Turrico that I was
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: a step behind because I'm trying to manage the game
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: and I'm trying to manage the play calling and he
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: is not at a point or say a Sean mcvayh
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: or Kyle Shanahan is those guys can handle those two things.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Dave Canalis is young as a head coach and quite
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: frankly young is a play caller. It's just it's so
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: I love the fact bone that he's willing to admit
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that and take a step back.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: I just I am bullish on it, no doubt.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: Good good start for It's Zick. I'm not gonna go
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: too overboard. I'm gonna wait one more game before i
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: start making Bill Walsh comparisons.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: I'm not there yet. That's just one more. That's all
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: he need. Mac, we have a talk about Mike tom
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Wins TV debut. We didn't have a talk.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: We needn't have a talk about Mike tom Wins. He's
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: a natural, isn't he. He's gonna be for his first
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: time doing it. He is going to be unbelievable on TV.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: He just did it seamless for him. You see, you
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: can see why NBC wanted him so where all these
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: numbers wanted them. They needed someone to kind of build
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: that show around not not being Jason Garrett. Mike tom
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Win is unreal on TV already, no doubt in the
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: studio role, no perfect.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: But does he want to go back to coaching or
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: does he do this? If he does this, he will
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: be like just great, like he'll get even better to.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: He did say last night, when he's in the booth,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: he said he doesn't want to now, but he said
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: when the game starts that.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Itch might come back already. Yeah, yeah, he did admit that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: All right, So some of the if you want to
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: if you are trying to figure out what the Haines
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: King text looked like today, we'll give you a little
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: looxie here. Buzz uses the linebone that I'm trying to
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: trademark h that I used in the middle of the game.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: Haines is becoming the king of the Queen City.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: That is good.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: That line's good. That's headlines all over the place, I'm
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: sure Billboard. And then Kokie Monster checks in and says,
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I don't even I don't even want to know. Man
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: to no, he says, Cam Newton is a poor man's
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: Haines Cake. We're not overreacted at all.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: Man, we misspelled cookie Monster or is that I need
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: to know?
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this is I think that is that
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: intentional there. I don't know, Brons, I don't know what's
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: going on there. Man had his Hall of Fame Drew
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Brees vibe going on. That's another Tex circuit right now.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: King's overthrow of Jimmy Horn though, was a bad look Hogmiles, Yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: it was had a wido. Ben didn't settle and take
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: his time and then just gunn that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: That's the area where Haynes came to be a factor
• 20:17
  Speaker 6: in this league. It's not about the intangibles. It's not
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: about the athletic ability, the toughness, the mindset. It's about
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: him throwing the football from the constantly from the pocket.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: But he did drop some dimes from the pocket.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I'm talking real NFL throws that out to Horn towards
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: the end of the game. That that out that he threw.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: I think it was also the horn where he layered
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: it over one defender in front of the other, like
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: there were some NFL throws. But obviously we need to
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: watch more.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: The text line apparently doesn't need to see more, though,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: bum Some of y'all.
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: Know when we come back here on the Mack and
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: Bone radio program, say tuned top of the eight o'clock hour,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: you were going to hear a great conversation with Panthers
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: legendary former head coach Ron Rivera about Luke keikleeam some
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: stuff from twenty fifteen. That's eight AM coming up next.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Sounds of the Panthers. Luke addition highlights from his Hall
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: of Fame presser yesterday, including great stuff on Cam and
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Greg on Sports Radio ninety two seven w f Z.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Defending Caroline. Guys that have to know I think first
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of all all Grays because he didn't learned the slider
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: walking one and those you specifically after game for guys,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that that tells the story for what
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: it is. How been my ship the box? How do
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: we get a guy a free runner at How do
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: we cloud his vision? I think that kind that kind
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: of suse for herself, but I think how did can
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: make that?
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: There you go? Uh?
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: That is Luke Keickley talk about Greg Olsen Cam Newton,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: the two guys that opposing defenses had to stop on
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: those old school Panther teams. In Luke Keikley's words, he
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: also talked about how big and bad Cam is bone
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: and how Cam Andhm would go out for the coin
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: toss with the captains and he would see the fear
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: on opposing captain's faces when they would just look at
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Cam Newton, especially the defensive guys like I have to
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: try to tackle that. So he was he was good yesterday, man,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: really like there's some good long answers. He put a
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: lot of thought into his answers. Every Hall of Famer
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: got a presser yesterday, and we played the clip earlier
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: of Drew Brees. Drew Brees had a press for yesterday.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: He was praising Luke. Luke was praising Drew and Larry
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: like these are guys. You can just tell the mutual
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: respect between all three of those guys.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: It's pretty cool to hear it.
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: Larry Fitzgerald, you talk about their stories they were telling
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: about him. Was about as classy as it gets when
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: people tell stories about him. Do very lukewike in what
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: people say about Fitzgerald. We will see Drew Brees mac
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: very early in the NFL season because he.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: And Adam amein. We'll call game one Bears Panthers Week
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: one Man week one. We'll get him, all right, So
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: let's do this. Let's run through. This is Sounds of
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: the Panthers Luke Edition. We are also gonna let you
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: hear a bunch of the Luke messages we got. Y'all
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: did a great job of sharing your salutes to Luke.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: And now that we know Bohen, we have this feature
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: on our app where you can leave messages very easily
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: hit the microphone button at the bottom. We could probably
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: use that going forward, but we're gonna play a montage
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: of all the love that the listeners gave to Luke.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: That's coming up later, but right now, let's hear it
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: in Luke's own world words as he gets ready to
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: go into the Hall of Fame tomorrow noon starts the
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: ceremony tomorrow. I love it, baby, I love it all right,
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: So let's go to Luke Keickley talking about Carolina being
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: the perfect place for him.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I don't think it could have ended up in a
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: better situation than I was in Carolina. I think from
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the organization to you know, Marty and Ron and Sean mcdermomy,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator, to the community in general, I think
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: they welcomed They welcomed me to the Carolinas. They welcomed
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: me to the Carolina Panthers, and there's been nothing but
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: support from from the case since I got there. Whether
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: it was when I first got there as a rookie
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: year I was in year four, or after you know
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: we went to the super Bower, whether it was we're
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: having a bad season, regardless of the situation. You'd see
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: people out and about and everybody was always so supportive
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and you felt you just felt comfortable, you were in
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a safe space. And it was a really a really
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: special place for me to end up. And then, you know,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: when I finished playing a couple of years ago, even
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: now moving forward, the city of Charlotte and the Carolina's
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: in general have given me every opportunity that I could
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: have ever want to do, stay involved in the community
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: and stay involved in the game of football.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: He really is and and and still is today and
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: was a great fit for Charlotte, wasn't he.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Like could you just you can't rep you
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: can't rep a city, and I mean, as a human
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: any better than that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: And just in terms of him, like, could you see
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: him in New York Like he's I don't view him
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: as a New York City kind of guy, Bone, where
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: you know, there's all this media scrutiny and you've got
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: all this attention. He came to Charlotte, a place where
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Bone I just feel like, you know, a little slower paced,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: little chill.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's perfect for him. You know.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: To this day, I was reading an article by Darren
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Gant Panthers dot Com about to this day, like he
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: just blends in his nameghborhood just as a you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: regular neighbor in the neighborhood walks his dog and you
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: know everybody doesn't. You know, Luke says, everybody doesn't care
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: about me, they care about the dog. I'm sure you
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: can relate to that. And it's just like I just
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: I think I think he likes I think low key
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: Charlotte and low key Luke we were perfect for each other.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Olsen Olsen kind of hit on that last night during
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: the TV interview when he said, even this guy wasn't
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: a football player, he'd still be to me, He's Olsen
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: saying that he'd be a great guy and all these
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: things even if he didn't have the football career in
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: terms of what he meant to his family and all
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: that type of stuff. So, yeah, I know you're right,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: he's the perfect fit there. I was thinking last night
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: when Luke was talking about how I think Melissa Stark
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: asked him about not playing as long as other Hall
• 26:49
  Speaker 6: of famers, the second youngest Hall of Famer besides Gail Sayers,
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: and he said eight years wasn't enough would you heard
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: him say before.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: He's very at ease with it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: And we talked about the health that he lose just
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: a little bit of a step and for him, he
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: if he felt like he wasn't at his best, he'd
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: walk away. I also wonder this too, Mac, we talk
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: about Luke's ability to know what was coming on the
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: football field. I also wonder if Luke felt that he's
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: losing just a few inches of his of his of
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: his best. Did he also see the Matt Rule air
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: coming as well and just want to Matt role. Did
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: he realize like I can go out now with a
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: sparkling reputation or right?
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Seriously, are he just teasing that role part of me?
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Wonders did he look at Matt Rule and say I
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: ain't going to be part of this mess?
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: He did.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Obviously, concussions played a role, and he downplayed that. Yesterday
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: he was asked, did you stop playing because of fear
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: of CT He said no, He downplayed that. I didn't
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: want to talk about that, but obviously it did. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: then secondly you said it. He said it himself when
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: he retired, I was not up to my standard of myself.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: We we didn't notice it really right. As fans, we
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: thought you still probably the best in the business, you
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: and Bobby Wagner. But to him and in his mind,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: he had dropped a little bit. Let's get to more
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: of Luke's words here from yesterday's press conference. This is
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Luke Keighley talking about why he felt it necessary to
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: be completely obsessed with watching film.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: You always try to find advantages that happened before Sunday, right,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: So can I prepare in practice? Can I prepare in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: meeting rooms? Can I prepare in the off season and
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: make sure that my body's ready to roll for games?
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: And you know, you look, you look for those advantages
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: and then some of them, some of them work, some
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of them don't work. But some of them that worked
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: really well for me was the ability to prepare, an
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: ability to watch tape and anticipate. And I think a
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: lot of that started at Saint Savior High School with
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Steve Speck. We used to watch, you know, VHS tape
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: was specked in the in his office eating lunch. And
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: then on the Boston College I watched a lot of
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: tape with a guy named Wes Davis, and you start
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: to see the advantage of Hey I've seen this in
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a previous game, and you can put yourself in that situation.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So if it's you know, these guys are on the field,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: it's third and seven. Here's their top four past concepts,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: here's what we might be on on defense. How do
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: we match up against it? And then you can kind
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: of play through that scenario in your mind before the
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: ball gets snapped, and then when you kind of turn
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: around and the ball gets snapped. During the games, you've
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I've sat next to Thomas for twenty hours that week
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: talking about this route against Drew Brees and the Saints,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: and we're in this coverage, how do we want to
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: do it? And the ball gets snapped and they run
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that route and we're in this coverage and we've already
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: talked about it.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: Anybody whoever wants their kid to work hard at something
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: right school sports, just tell them about Luke Keigley's habits
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: right of preparation.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: You know, I love that man.
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Two of the great film watchers of all time, Luke
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Keickley and Fitty Marwao. We just can't discuss what Fitty's
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: watching that. I love where your mind went there, like
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: I love that. I love that and Drew Brees by
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: the way he talked about battling against Drew. Drew bro
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: talked about batting against him. Those were some chess matches,
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: you know, kind of like the Ray Lewis and Peyton
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Manning chess matches with the audibles. That's the way that
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: Drew Brees and Luke would go at it. Now, Luke
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: did concede Bone that there was a time, and of
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: course he's very humble, so of course he's willing to
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: talk about something like this. There was a time Bone
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: a particular game against the Atlanta Falcons where he thought
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: he knew what was coming throughout the day and he
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: was dead wrong. And he had no problem talking about
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: that time.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yesterday we played Atlanta.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: I I don't remember when it was, it was probably
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: twenty I want to say it was twenty eighteen, and
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: they had run a run play the previous couple weeks
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: out of a formation and a personnel grouping and kind
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: of an area on the field, and I was like,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: we're going to get this run. This run traditionally gives
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: me problems, and they had a really good center, Alex Max.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: So it was kind of a perfect storm of I've
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: seen it multiple weeks in a row. I understand that
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: formation we're going to be lined up very similar to
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the team that they were playing. And I was sitting
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: on this play all game and they probably lined up
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: in that formation six seven, eight times during that game,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: and they never ran that run with that run play
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: one time. And I remember towards the end of the game,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: the official actually came up to me and he said
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: he kind of asked like, are you okay? And I said, yeah,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: why and he said, you're you look like you're waiting
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: for something that's not coming. And I said, you know what,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that to me because I knew
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: something was a little bit off today. And I had
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: sat on a run play the whole game and they
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: never ran it. I remember telling him that, And remember
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: after the game, I kept telling myself that, Hey, your
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: job is to anticipate, but at the end of the day,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: your job is to react to what goes on. Right,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you can't I can't wish Matt Ryan to run this
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: run play during the game.
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: How about the official coach and luk upbout it that
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: credit the official asking is something wrong with you?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: So I respected the officials are like Hey, what's going
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: on with you? Yeah, you can't. You don't know what's
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: going on?
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: What is happening that that's very very interesting story there
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: of the interaction. We got a great text here from
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: eight O three number. We need to get your name.
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: You got to give us your name for the text line.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: But he said he grew up in Akron, Ohio, moved
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: to Charlotte after college, and Luke Keekley's my hero, he says,
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: living in both Ohio and the Carolinas. He's a Brown
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: slash Panther fan. One might want to make that panther
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: slash browns though I might want to move there. So anyway,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: that's pretty cool. That's he's got a picture him and
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Luke there. That's another thing too. We could do like
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: a whole thing probably about like meetings with Luke, like
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: fans running into him, like I have heard so many
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: stories people have shared. I think there's one that was
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: left on the salute to Luke's bone about running into him.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: I have heard so many stories about how gracious he was,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: about how willing he was to sit there and talk
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: to you and make you feel like, hey, he really,
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: you know, cares about what you're saying and stuff like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: I'm sure there's tons of good stories about that with him,
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: you know, out out and about.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Walker has the one when he just walked in out
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: back one night. That's true. I'm so jealous man.
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  Speaker 6: Walker's like, oh my god, he eats with the rest
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: of us. And that's so Luke. You see it chicken
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: or something though, right, that's no way he's putting it.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: That's so Luke Keithley. I don't need stake forty eight.
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Let me just go to ap back man. All right,
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: let's keep it going.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Sounds of Luke Keighley, all right, speaking of the Falcons.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: This leads us to a press conference question to Luke
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: that annoys the crap out of me. Listen to this dude, bone,
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: listen to this dude's question. Of course, Luke is classy
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: in response, so though he does he does note the
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: uh the the nature of the question at a Hall
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: of Fame presser, this's this damn chucklehead from Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Michael Wholey and WZFP University of Ackron. Congratulations, Luke.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: I just want to talk about some of those NFC
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: South battles. One of them was a singular play against
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: another guy who looks like he's gonna be in the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Hall of Fame soon. Julio Jones, how did you get
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: matched up on? Julio Jones?
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: I had one play on the guy throw Daggers Man.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: Was that broken coverage or were you just man the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: best receiver in the league down there? Or what happened there?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: What happened there? Yeah, it was it was quarters and
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they went to empty. And when you go quarters to empty,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I got the guy down the middle of the field,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and so I had to run with Hulia down the
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: field and Matt, Matt, fortunately for Julio, saw that and
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: decided that he liked his matchup down the field a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: little bit more than I liked the matchup down the field.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And obviously, since you asked the question, you know what
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the result was. And uh, it was a win for
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: And in Julio Jones, Michael Houlihan, your professor, your communications
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: professor should fail you for next semester.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Was that question, mister Holligan.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Mister Holihan from uh the Akron Zip College Radio, the
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Zippy ninety five point four, the zip, I mean, just
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: make it that just baging that up.
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: I don't mean zip listen.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I mean if I if we sat here, we're exposed
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: to all the things I did in college, Bone, you
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: would think I tell my wife all the time.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: If you knew me in college, there's no way we'd
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: be married.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: So I don't I want to come on here and
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: act like everything I did was certainly not when I
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: was brought to you know, doing college broadcasting was I great.
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: But why the heck are you asking that question in
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: a Hall of Fame celebratory presser. And here's the thing
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: that gets me, because there's a narrative out there that
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: play Bone where Julio got like a thirty yard or
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: deep on Luke. That play was from obviously to twenty
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: fifteen game, the only game we lost that season in
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: the regular season, and for some reason people use it
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: to taunt Luke and to like say, oh, Julio got
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: him good. Luke Keikley as a middle linebacker, Bone was
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: stride for stride an inch away from breaking up a
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: deep ball to one of the greatest wide receivers of
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: that generation. And y'all are acting like he got toasted,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: like our corners were getting toasted last night. Like seriously,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: I view that honestly as an amazing play to be
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: that close to breaking it up, so that annoyed that crap.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Out of me.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: Yes, I said four straight texts. Michael from mid Hill
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: had a couple of beers with Luke at Caswell. We
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: watched college football together. Let's see the choch doctor cooked
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: for the team super Bowl year. Luke helped me with
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: my CPCC homework. I will We'll see there's another one here.
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Mister Keikley gave me professional advice when I met him
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: one time. Changed my life forever. Wow. And then we
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: have Willie p talking about mister Hollahan Mac. Dude should
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: make like Acrod and zips this.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: Are you doing this? Dude?
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Says Luke was willing to answer the question a classy matter.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Why don't you be classy?
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: Mac? I don't know, are you new here? I don't know.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: It just made me mad. I'm like, it just didn't
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: fit the type of press. Like you could tell. Luke
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: too was kind of taken aback. Yeah, like and in
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: his in his nice way, I've had and you're throwing dagger,
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: you know, like.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I had like three bad plays my whole career.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: You're gonna bring up one at the Hall of Fame presser.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Oh my god. But see that's it though, Bone, Like
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: I just I just knew that Luke's the type of
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: guy that like there would be stories like that, he
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: would meet you and he wouldn't.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Like big time you. You know, that's who you know,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: that's type of guy is. Absolutely there's so many stories.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: So Luke makes his way around town, doesn't he? Are
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: people making these up down all real and they're all real.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: When we come back on the eve of Luke going
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: to the Hall of Fame, we ask is he the
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: best panther of all time? On Sports Radio ninety two
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: seven find.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio ninety two So w Benz all right, we
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: had a great thing going, Bone, we had genuine Luke
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: in the wild.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: It's over now.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: I met Luke Keighley out in about stories and he
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: did this and he said this, and he was so gracious,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: just kind of exemplifying, right that he was just that
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: regular guy. Right, And that's part of the charm of Luke.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Who goes in the Hall tomorrow ceremony starts at noon everybody,
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: But now people have gone to the comedic variety and
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: coming up with just silly Luke Keickley in the wild Story.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: We some I don't know if they're fake or not,
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: but most of them.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: The best one is Luke used to change my oil
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: every three months. Would call me every six months to
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: remind me to change the batteries in my smoke alarms too.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't know that really could be real, to
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: be honest, is that why we don't like these? We're
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: not sure if these are real or not. He was
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: such a good guy.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: I once sow looking a lot of building, burning building
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: to save fifteen baby gittings.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Just you just happened to be walking past when that happened.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: All right, anyway, keep them coming, serious Luke, meet up
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: stories or have some fun with it as well.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: We're having doors would check under his bed for.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: A week, y'all. Look y'all are on fire today. We're
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: also getting a fair amount of it's so funny. We're
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: saluting one of our all time greats? Was he the greatest?
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: Ever? About?
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Ready talking about that in the second And there are
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: still people like when do we talk about hates King?
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: We'll talk about the future Panther Hall of Famer that's
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: coming up at a twenty five. We've already been talking
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: about it. He's a baller and he showed that moxie
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: last night and made some big time throws too in
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: the comeback win and the walk off a game winning
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: touchdown run last night. Bone. Where are you at now,
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: Luke Keighley in the Hall of Fame? Are you now like?
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Are you of the camp? I know we've talked about this,
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: have you? Are you of the belief Luke Keighley is
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: the best Panther player ever at this point?
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Or no?
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: Man, that's so hard because we love all the guys involved, right,
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's Pap, it's Smitty, it's Cam, it's Wuke,
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: and they all have their attributes that could put them
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: number one. The thing with Luke is he had the
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: shortest career. But if he and it wasn't his fault,
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: mag if he plays a ten or twelve year career
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: and it's anywhere similar to how he played the eight
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: years he played, then I don't think there's.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Any doubt about it. I think he'd be number one.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: I have said Pep a lot in the past, even
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: when folks and listen, there's a there's a four man
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: logjam in my opinion at the top I think somebody
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: said they're the mount Rushmore earlier this week. Of Panther players,
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: to me, it's Luke, Pep, Smitty and Cam with all
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: apologies to Greg and you know, Ryan Khalil and Sam
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: Mills this is and TD this is to me the
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: top four. I used to say Pep because he was
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: such a physical free and then he proved to be
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: a first ballot Hall of Famer, But I think Luke Keikley.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: I've switched it to Luke over the last couple of
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: years because yes, it was a short career, but I
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: honestly believe Bone he was probably the best at his
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: position for every year of his career or damn near it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Like I don't think there has been a Panther player
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Bone that has been at the top or that close
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: to the top for the entire career that they played football.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: And the fact that he did it all with the Panthers,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: whereas Pep left and did a lot of his stuff
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: for two other teams, and maybe that plays a little
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: bit of a role as well. Also thought Luke was
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: more consistent than Pep. Pep would have quiet games. Pep
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: had a lot of quiet games in the playoffs, Luke
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Keighley was consistent. He was always there. He was always
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: a force, made people better around him by telling them
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: here's where the plays come and go make it. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: think it's I mean seven Pro Bowls Bone in eight
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: seasons and the only year he did was his rookie year,
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: and in that year he was the Rookie of the
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: Year defensively, I just think No One. And then when
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: you look at the all time greats, I think Luke
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Keighley is closer to the top of the all time
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: great linebackers list than any Panther player ever is to
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: the top of their position all time.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Personally, Yeah, I think you're right about Yeah, I think
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: you're right. I would say Luke most beloved, Cam, most important, Smitty,
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: most impactful, offensive player, most talented player.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Overall.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: They all have their yearbooks, all have their own attributes,
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: and I say Cam most important because Cam went so
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: far beyond obviously great player, but Cam brought attention to
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: the franchise that we'd never seen before. So Cam had
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: an importance in terms of national stuff that maybe the
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: other guys didn't have. They all have their own, like
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: you said, yearbook type stuff. I that has a talent
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: may have been the best talent.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: Most physically gifted him and Cam right just the most
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: physically gifted with god given talent.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: It's Fitty's the guy that made the most out of
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: what he had.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Absolutely him and Sam Mills, right, they're in that category.
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: Like everybody doubting them because they're small. Dude. The hearts
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: on those fellas, man.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: But I've always said to what you said about Cam,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: I thought he's the most important player in franchise history
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: because of the position he played right as good as
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: he was the position he played. Now, Cam probably had
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: the best Panthers season ever, right the MVP season. That
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: that's you know, I think that's one. I think that's
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: another distinction.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: But can I counter something of that Though's Triple crowns
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: that pretty badass too.
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: I think that's got to be just a notch below
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: because we're talking about the MVP of the entire league.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: But that's a good shout though, dude. And Luke was
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Defensive Player of the Year in his second year in
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: the league.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: Right there, You've got three ridiculous seasons from those guys.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: It's pretty mixed, though, and this is the way it
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: should be.
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: By the way on the on the text line, like
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: those four guys should probably all get mentioned when we
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: talk about the greatest Panther Cam's getting love Granny Pat
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: says Steve Smith.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I could see Granny being a Steve fan. Definitely tracks
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: because I feel like she is the Steve Smith of listeners. Feisty, fiery,
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: made the most out of what she has, but just
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: just a legend panther Fitty, Where do you go on
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: this one? Man?
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Like, who do you look at and say the best
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: Panther out of this group?
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: Mac, There's two football players I've watched with the trained
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: football eye and knew immediately these guys were different. One
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: was when I was a member of the of the
• 44:03
  Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys and Zach Martin was the best right guard
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: I'd ever seen.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: We were on the count three whatever God.
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: And then as a as a Panther fan that was
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: there for Luke's when he first got drafted. Of course
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: I had stripped away but came back. That's the best
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: linebacker I've ever seen play. I saw the back end
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: of Ray Lewis's career. I know there were some other
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: great linebackers during Luke's time, but like Mac, I knew
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: in his second year that guy's different.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that, you knew after his rookie year he
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: was going to the Hall of Fame.
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: Didn't know if he's gonna be first ballot, but you
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: knew he was gonna have the career that he was
• 44:39
  Speaker 7: gonna have. And so for me, he's he's the best
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: player I think pound for pound to put to put
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: the uniform?
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Did I just think? And we're gonna get into it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: Phideas teased the nine o'clock segment one of the nine
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: o'clock Mac I teas, is he like, are I know
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: we're all homers. Can you say he's the best linebacker
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: of your lifetime? Like, regardless of what your age is,
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: can you say Luke is the best linebacker you've seen?
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Not talking about the pass rushing line, but I would
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: say lt is in a different category. But that we'll
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: talk about that one. We'll talk about favorite Luke like
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: on field memories. Although y'all keep sending the off the
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: field meetings with Luke, Pp did make two All decade teams.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: That is that is something to note there. However, that
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: goes into the first thing we said about Luke. If
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Luke Mack would have played a few more years. Luke,
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: Luke's making, Luke's Luke's accolades would be, there'd be so
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: many of them. He just he didn't play long enough.
• 45:32
  Speaker 5: I just still think Luke is closer to the top
• 45:35
  Speaker 5: of the all time linebackers list than Pep is pass rushers.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: And I'll say this, Yeah, he made all decades to
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: all decade teams. Pep was a beast. He's my number
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: two player in Panther history. He did have a chunk
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: there where his contributions were in Green Bay in Chicago.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: That kind of affects it a little bit too when
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: we say.
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: It's almost a split career. Wouldn't need to look at
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: his years. He came back here, so it still put
• 46:00
  Speaker 6: up a double digit sack season when he came back.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: But anyway, it's a fun conversation to have because these
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: guys were also awesome.
• 46:06
  Speaker 6: Man speaking awesome a man Mac who was around for
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: for all these guys, Ron Rivera, We had a great
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: sit down with Ron about Luke. He shared stories before
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: we have never heard before. This is mustier radio. Don't
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: miss it. Ron Rivera's next on the Mack and Boat
• 46:23
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