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Todd Hampson: The Non-Prophet’s Guide To Heaven · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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  Brothers and sisters and Christ family, friends, thank you so much for tuning into World
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  View Matters for sharing.
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  I've got my brother Todd Hampson with us today.
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  Jeff, pull up the Jan Markel radio show, Understanding the Times, Todd and I were guests
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  two years ago.
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  So technically this is when I met Todd, June 17, 2022.
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  There we are on Jan's show.
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  What a blessing she's been to our ministry.
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  So Todd Hampson, Prophecy Pro's podcast, he co-hosts with Jeff Kinley, also in 2003,
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  Todd founded Tim Buck Tunes, LLC, and it's an award-winning animation company that
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  develops and produces Christ-centered animated shows, Todd's best-selling author, Speaker,
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  and you can check out his stuff on Amazon or Todd Hampson.com.
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  Him and his wife, Tracy, live in Georgia.
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  They've got three grown children and Todd's a graduate of University of Maryland.
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  And in the spring of 2025, coming up, he's going to graduate from Dallas,
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  Theological Seminary.
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  Todd and brother, welcome to World View Matters, good to see you.
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  Likewise, brother, I've really been looking forward to this, David.
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  Thank you so much for having me.
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  I can't believe it's been two years since we were on Jan Markel, seemed like a couple
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  months ago.
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  I know.
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  I remember after that, we exchanged emails briefly back and forth and then one of us
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  reported us didn't follow up.
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  But now it's just a blessing we've had Jeff on a few times.
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  So let's talk about Prophecy Pro's podcast, Jeff, and we've talked about that a little
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  bit.
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  And now from your side, because you co-host that, when did you connect with Jeff?
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  I know you've got a love for prophecy and apologetics.
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  And I don't remember asking him how you guys connected.
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  It's funny that I'll give you the short version, basically I reached out to him after reading
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  several of his books when I've really started digging into Bible prophecy.
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  And I've always studied it, been interested in it since I became a believer as a teenager.
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  I can share a little bit about my testimony a little bit later, but his were some of
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  the first books I read when I really started looking at what was going on in the world
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  like, wait a minute, this is in the Bible and I need to know more about it.
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  And started a YouTube channel and actually reached out to him and said, hey, you modify
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  interview about one of your books.
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  And so we kind of connected there.
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  And then he actually helped me get in touch with my first agent.
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  I had an agent I was working with for a potential book, but it wasn't there was kind of no chemistry
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  there.
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  So he put me in touch with an agent.
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  And then so that's how we met and he took a look at my book concept and he said, oh, man,
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  they got to see this.
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  This is needed right now.
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  And long story short, we kept bumping into each other at Bible prophecy conferences and
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  stuff like that.
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  And we both learned that we both grew up unchurched.
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  We both were far from the Lord.
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  And God reached both of us through some amazing ways, we're teenagers.
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  With me, it was it was fulfilled Bible prophecy that kind of broke down the barriers and let
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  me know, hey, I need to check out this book, the Bible.
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  It's supernatural in nature.
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  And so we're cut from the same cloth and the more we got to know each other, we're just
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  like, man, we need to do something together.
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  And so we just kind of kicked around some ideas and came up with the prophecy pros and here
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  we are nearly 2 million downloads later.
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  Top 1% of podcasts, what I understand, it's a pretty big 1%, but still we're in that
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  top 1%.
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  And it's all glory to God because we didn't plan that.
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  We just we just wanted to do some ministry together and saw the need.
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  And God just took it from there and took it took off like wildfire.
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  Yeah, I love some of the topics you guys cover and my goodness.
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  Just the fact how you guys connect, very interesting story.
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  But let's go back to when you were a teenager, it's very hard for some of us to grasp being
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  having a conversion to Christ at the age of 13 because you did not grow up in a Christian
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  or religious home, correct?
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  Correct.
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  Exactly.
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  You know, good, good safe home, you know, had some, you know, broken home divorce and all
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  that kind of stuff.
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  But other than that, good, good safe home, good parents.
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  But nobody was believers, we didn't go to church.
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  And I believed in evolution.
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  I thought the Bible was a book of fairy tales that was used to explain ancient things that
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  people couldn't explain and used to control people.
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  So I, through a weird series of events, I wound up in a Christian school in the eighth grade.
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  And as you mentioned, I have an art background, my art teacher just so happened to be my Bible
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  teacher.
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  And I was the only unsafe kid in the class.
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  So he kind of looking back now, he catered the whole class to reach me.
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  And I was only there for three months, actually, but during that time, and I didn't get saved
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  while I was there, but God used that time there to begin to break down my walls of resistance.
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  And the main thing he used was the apologetic of fulfilled Bible prophecy.
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  When I saw some of that, particularly related to the first coming, but also, you know,
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  to Daniel 7, I couldn't explain those things away and had to come with the grips, come
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  to grips with the fact that there was a supernatural component to the Bible.
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  So you must have progressed then from that class in your art and your, just your desire
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  to pursue that as a career, a lot of people, I mean, kids go to college, they don't even
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  know what they want to do when they get out of college, you know?
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  But you, it sounds like God opened up that door for you after you got saved and created
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  that desire to use your art and those skills to glorify him.
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  Tell us how that came about.
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  Yeah, sure thing.
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  I, yeah, I was, ever since I was in grade school, I would be drawing characters and cartoons
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  and stuff like that.
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  And I always loved that.
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  I always loved story, but never really thought I could do it as a career.
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  And then in my senior year, I basically, I was kind of like, this is the only thing I'm
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  good at. So I went to college for art and wound up working in DC for 13 years as a graphic
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  artist and then eventually managed a graphics and print shop and downtown DC.
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  And at the same time, I was always serving in church and like doing art stuff in church,
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  but never thought about doing ministry on a, on a broader scale until I had, I got
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  married and had two kids and we're watching all the special features on the cartoons,
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  you know, Pixar and Veggie Tales and all that.
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  And I thought, you know what?
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  I think, I think I want to do this on my own for the Lord and basically came on one
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  day and after we had our second child, I've got three alt total, but after our second child
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  and our first single family home, I came home and told my wife, I think God's calling
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  me to quit my stable job and start an animation company.
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  And she, she's always been a great, you know, great.
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  And it comes a stepping out in faith.
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  And she saw that the Lord was moving in that direction anyway.
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  And she was just on board right away.
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  And wow, so 2003 started Tim Motunes and produced a bunch of content and DVDs for children's
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  ministry and then also did service work for other entertainment companies and still do
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  to this day.
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  Still, we still got Tim Motunes role in Timbuktunes.com.
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  And it says from script to screen and everything in between.
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  So if, so if someone wants to do something creative for their church or something like
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  this, some animation, how does that work?
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  They contact you and, and what does that mean from, from script from the writing to actually
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  the production?
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  Just tell us a little bit more about that process for someone interested.
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  Yeah, sure thing.
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  And we, we actually really only do series work now.
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  We used to do a lot of one off projects, but now we work primarily on, on series where
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  you have a, a good ramp up time to create and produce all the characters and the, all
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  the assets that you see on screen.
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  But yeah, basically what happens is people come to us with a concept for a series will help
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  them develop the series, design the characters, write the scripts, record the voices, produce
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  the animation, do the sound design and compositing and then credits.
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  You know, so, so really development through post production, we can handle it.
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  And right now we're working on a series called Stories for the Storyteller for Jonathan
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  Evans, who's a Dr. Tony Evans son there in Texas.
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  And we finish producing that later in 20s, 25.
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  So that's kind of the big one we're working on now.
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  But yeah, it's a, it's a fun process.
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  There's a lot of moving parts, but we've built a pretty good team over the years.
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  We've got it down to a pretty good science.
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  Awesome.
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  I'm just looking at just some of the books you put out to and just amazing, you know, you
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  did a Daniel, you did the chronological guide to Bible prophecy.
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  You got one on the guide to prophecy for young people.
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  What else here?
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  Life lessons from the parables of Jesus and the visual guide coming soon to biblical
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  apologetics. But I also wanted to touch on something that's coming up that people can
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  pre-order because it's going to be here in a matter of weeks.
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  And that's October 1st and that's called the non-profits guide to heaven.
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  A lot of people interested in this topic, as you said, before we got on the podcast,
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  your Todd. So tell us a little bit about this.
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  I've got some couple bullet points on the book I can ask you about, but tell us a little
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  about non-profits guide to heaven.
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  Yeah, so that's actually the, I believe, six or seventh book in the series.
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  The first book was the non-profits guide to the end times and the non-profit as a character
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  in its P-R-O-P-H-E-T. So he gets prophecy wrong and he's a terrible businessman.
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  So he's he's the epitome of a day late and a dollar short, but I use him and the illustrations
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  as comic relief and some visual teaching methods in the book to take kind of the intimidation
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  factor out of these heady topics like revelation and Bible prophecy and apologetics and that
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  kind of thing. But the non-profits guide to heaven is all about heaven.
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  It's a systematic overview of heaven and it kind of starts with the backstory of heaven.
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  It compares, it looks at what other world religions teach about heaven, if people are curious,
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  just to kind of compare with Christianity. And then it highlights the fact that Christianity
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  is the only religious teaching in the world that holds that God came and died for us and we
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  don't have to work to get to him. It's the only one that's salvation by grace through faith.
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  So I highlight that and I also highlight all of the amazing things that a lot of believers,
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  they know we're going to heaven, but they may not realize what leads up to that.
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  Namely, the rapture, the beam of sea, the marriage, the return, the millennial kingdom, heaven.
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  What are, you know, bodies going to be like? What's going to be like in heaven? What do we know
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  from scripture? What heaven's going to be like? And by the way, I mentioned that's about the
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  seventh book in the series and I'm working on the final book in that series now. When I wrote
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  book one, the non-profits guide to the end times, my deal with God was, okay, Lord, I'm going to write
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  this one book and I don't want to travel and I don't want to speak. So if you really want to
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  see God, sense a humor and watch the world flip up, set down, try to tell God what you're going to do
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  and see what happens. Yeah, I had a friend that said that too, if you want to make God laugh, tell him
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  your plans. Yeah, exactly what I did. And he said, okay, watch this. Now you're speaking, you're
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  traveling and you're doing all the things that you didn't really think you would do. So this
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  says it answers the most commonly, commonly asked questions about heaven and the afterlife.
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  I want to go back to the apologetic aspect of world religions because I find that to be fascinating.
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  It's every other religion is about work, work, work, work, work or doing, doing, doing. And it's very
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  unique that Christianity, our God came to die for us to pave the way so that we might live
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  eternally with him. There's no other, nothing else compares to the Christian faith and the
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  message of salvation in the gospel. Go ahead and share a little bit more about that, Todd.
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  Yeah, it's wild when you look at it, you know, Hinduism and some of the others are kind of like
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  you become one with God and lose consciousness. That doesn't sound very appealing to me.
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  Islam, as you know, it's definitely a workspace gospel. You don't really know you're going to
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  get to heaven until you die and then you hope you get there. Yeah. The only guaranteed way is to
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  die for your God, to die in in jihad is the only way to know you're going to heaven. And even
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  Judaism, you know, which uses the first five books of the Old Testament, the Torah, they focus
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  because that came out of the era where the Egyptians focused so much on the afterlife,
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  but in a pagan way that they purposely don't touch it and are kind of just like let's leave it
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  up to God, we don't really know. So that was one surprising one for me was in Judaism. There's
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  a spectrum, but it's all there's a lot of different views about what happens in the afterlife.
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  But like you said, Christianity is the only one where the creator of the universe
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  became a man hung on the cross, became sin for us. And somehow I don't know how this happens,
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  but within the Trinity that God, God the Father turns his back on God the Son, something we can't
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  understand, and his judgment falls on the Son in our place. And then we trade our
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  sinfulness for his righteousness simply by accepting the free gift of salvation and he already paid
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  for it does not get any better than that. And our living for him comes out of a heart of gratitude
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  for what is already done. We're not working for salvation. We're not striving for anything. We know,
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  we can know for sure right now that you're a believer and you're going to be with the Lord forever
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  without any guesswork. So it literally doesn't get any better than that.
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  I know. It's just amazing that we have the assurance of eternal security and there's no other
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  religion or cult or anything else that promises that kind of assurance. There's a lot of ifs,
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  there's a lot of well possibly I might make it, you know, they don't know. I also heard the
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  expression Todd someone said Christianity is all the other religions are about do do do and
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  Christianity is done. Jesus said it is finished. He did the work and he paved the way that we
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  might believe and it's yeah, the great exchange. It's just amazing. It's the best news. That's
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  why the gospel. Good news, right? So we're going to take a quick pause with Todd Hampson. Friends,
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  you can preorder the book at Todd Hampson.com. It's also up on Amazon. You can preorder it's
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  out in a matter of weeks. We'll be right back on World View Matters.
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  Matters at FPE USA dot org our producer will get right back to you. You can always go to the
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  website worldviewmatters.tv. So Todd Hampson is our guest today. You can go to Tim Bucktoons. You
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  can go to the the profits guide.com, the nonprofit's guide.com and this next book coming out in just
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  a matter of weeks. The nonprofit's guide to heaven is the next one in the series prophecy pros
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  podcast on YouTube and other outlets. So Todd, let's talk a little bit more about this. I love
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  apologetics too and I'm constantly learning. I'm constantly trying to find ways that we can
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  respond to people and talk about these things because you made some great points when you
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  point out other religions and world religions and you know, how would you respond to this?
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  People often say, well, Christian, it's so exclusive. When Jesus said, I am the way,
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  the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. That's pretty exclusive.
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  But then again, it says God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever
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  believes in Him can have eternal life. So it's not exclusive when people think, oh, you guys
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  are so narrow. Well, it's a narrow path. So it's interesting. It sounds like it might be a
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  contradictory gospel, but it's not. Go ahead and share a little bit about that. Yeah, that's a great
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  point. I mean, He said, whosoever will may come, you know, so it's open to all. He got so
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  loved the world. I like to tell people that because another similar argument I hear people say is
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  that telling people there's a hell is just a scare tactic, you know, to get people into Christianity.
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  And really, what it is, what the gospel is is, you know, if you see the example I use is,
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  if you see a fenced in area and it says high voltage, keep out, you don't say, oh, that's a
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  scare tactic. But it's the reality of what's there. If you go into that and you touch some
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  certain things, you're going to find out the hard way that that high voltage will kill you. And
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  it's the same thing with Christianity with with salvation is that the reality is God is the
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  holy God. We are sinful people people. Every single person on earth is born and sin. That's not a
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  popular statement, but it's true. It's biblical. And but the thing is, He did everything possible
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  so that we don't have to go to health. If for people to go to hell, they have to step over the
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  cross, reject what God has done and make their own decision to rebel against God and to ignore what
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  He's done. Now, there is definitely an aspect to it that is a, you know, when you look at God's
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  sovereignty versus man's responsibility, we can't reconcile all that God is in complete control.
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  And at the same time, we're responsible to respond. But the bottom line is God is God and we're not.
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  And for me, and maybe this will encourage someone in that vein, for me, that's why
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  grappling with the Bible itself first was the thing that led me to my salvation because
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  even at 13 and even as a, you know, with some rebellious thoughts in my mind about trying to
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  reject the Bible, I genuinely wanted to know truth. And I, and if in the Bible, if the Bible is
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  the source for Christianity, if the Bible is inspired from cover to cover, and that's the authoritative
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  word of God, then I had to figure that out first. Once I saw evidence that that was true,
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  that that book is accurate and can be trusted in one area that I couldn't explain, then that meant
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  I could also trust it in the areas of salvation and eternity and heaven and all those kind of
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  things. So it really is an amazing apologetic, fulfilled Bible prophecy and many other apologetics,
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  you know, archaeological discoveries keep just affirming everything in scripture. I mean,
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  it's just mind-blowing. If people will come to it, set their pre-suppositions aside and say,
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  I just want to know truth and I'm willing to go wherever it leads me, I believe they'll come to Christ.
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  I mean, just that fact, I mean, we know fulfilled prophecy is big enough, that's enough, but also
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  archaeology. If people want to truly reason it and if they're open-minded and thinking, okay,
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  I just want to gather information, every time there's an archaeological dig, you know,
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  something comes up that confirms either a person, a place, a historical event,
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  things that happened or people or places in the Bible in the Old Testament and people don't,
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  I don't know, I don't understand how people don't look at that and go, wow, so the Bible just
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  isn't a history book, it is very accurate, but Todd, you mentioned something, you mentioned authority
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  and over at the non-profitsguide.com on this new book where it says Bibliology. I'm looking at
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  those five things. So this, you know, it's an animated book, it's a little light-hearted, but the
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  content is a deep dive into what the Bible really says and these key concepts, inspiration,
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  inerrancy, authority, sufficiency and canonicity. I mean, in our churches, a lot of people don't hear
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  many of those words at all and here they are in this new book, Todd. So if you want to pick any one
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  of those, just talk about something that jumps out at you because these are very important
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  concepts and topics. They really are and the reason I included it was, that's in one of the
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  early chapters where I'm trying to give a baseline for why we can trust what scripture says about
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  heaven. You know, and so, like you said, so many people have never thought about what those are,
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  so I kind of unpacked the fact that first the Bible is revealed, it's God's revealed word, word,
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  it's inspired by the Holy Spirit, literally God breathed and because of that, we believe it's
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  inerrant meaning it's without error in everywhere that it speaks and actually we find that to be
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  true even scientifically, even though it's not a science book or or scientific terms like we're
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  used to today, what it states holds up. So it's inerrant, it's without error, it's it's sufficient
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  meaning everything we need to know about our relationship to God, how to reach him and how to
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  live this life in a way that pleases him is in there. It's authoritative meaning it tells us how to
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  live and what to believe and we we need to bow to that, we need to submit to the word of God
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  and canonicity is just a fancy way of saying the 66 books that wound up in the Bible are there
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  on purpose, that God oversaw that process of those books coming together and and there's whole,
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  you know, you could take whole courses on how that all came together and why that's important,
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  but but I but I mention those because it's so important to wrestle with those and to
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  form our own convictions about what we believe about the authority and sufficiency and in
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  energy of scripture, there are some movements within the church right now that are that are
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  gutting those things that are weakening the moorings of those key things and then
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  then you're left with a Bible that you don't know whether it's the word of God. No, we can have
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  confidence that the Bible from Genesis 1-1 to Revelation 22-21 is 100% the word of God. Inspired
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  God breathes. I was just thinking was it first Peter 1 chapter 1 verses 1920, I think it's
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  first Peter who talks about the men were carried along, it's not no prophecies of man's will,
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  but men carried along by the Holy Spirit or carried by God spoke spoke through the Holy Spirit.
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  Amen. Canonicity, I want to spend just another minute or two on that because we're running
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  on a time. The average person might think, well, gosh, how did these men, church leaders or whoever
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  scholars, theologians, how did all the, how did God get all these men together and figure out
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  what books would be in the 66 would be inspired would be his holy word. Just share a little bit
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  more about that please. Yeah, sure thing. I mean, briefly, it was a messy process especially for
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  the New Testament, but God uses messy means. Look at the 12 disciples who changed the whole world.
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  God, but and nothing prophetically or biblically happens in a vacuum. It happens in real life in
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  a process over time. The Old Testament was settled, you know, long before Jesus came on the scene,
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  so that that kind of as a no-brainer, it's the New Testament Canon that people wrestled with when
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  when letters were first out, but there were some standards about what was what was scripture and
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  what was not. Some of the apostles referred to other apostles writings in the New Testament as
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  scripture. So that's your first hint that, oh, okay, first we had the prophets and the writers of
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  the Old Testament. Now we have the the apostles and the New Testament and the gospel writers,
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  the disciples of Christ, anyone alive at Jesus's time would have been the ones who could write
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  the scriptures. Anything beyond that, we don't hold to. And also through that messy process,
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  different councils did wrestle with what books go in, which ones don't. And they looked for things
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  like accuracy, agreement with other books, the fact that it fits in the Canon. What was what was
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  used in the first century? What what the apostles themselves used? What letters they wrote that were
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  circulated? So again, it is a messy process, but we believe God, the big word we use is God super
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  intended that process of the Canon coming together. Just like he and super-tended the process of
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  me coming to Christ as a messy 13 year old. He takes messy things and puts them together. But God
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  is God and we need to trust him with those things. Amen. Amen. I love the fact that you touch on each
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  of these topics. And you mentioned you do it early in the book too. So this is not just some light
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  hearted. You know, don't let don't let the illustrations and the animation fool you friends. This is
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  not just some lighthearted kids book. This is deep stuff. And Todd, what a blessing to have that
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  talent to do it in a way that's like you said, non-threatening that might bring in some people who are not
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  believers that are that look at this going well heaven. You know, a lot of people are interested in
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  heaven, not just obviously not just believers. So yeah, brilliant. So now people could pre-order it,
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  but it's due out October 1st. And I mean Lord willing, we will have you back on maybe in the fall
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  or something in a couple months right now. Yeah, but let's let's keep now ones we're connected now.
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  Yeah, you said that'd be great. We have you on tape. We have you on tape. Todd, God bless you.
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  Guys, go to Todd Hampson.com or prophecy prose podcast and so many other places. But brother,
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  thanks just so much for for using your talents just to glorify God to bring people to him. I really
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  admire that. And you're a Southern. You don't even sound like a southerner. So that's it's kind of
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  any. Yeah, I was born and raised in Maryland and DC area. Yeah, my wife's from the south and I
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  moved south. So I'm sure I picked up some of that. Okay, so you're watching the south. Solve this
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  dilemma for me. Is it pecan or pecan? According to her it's pecan. According to me, it's pecan because
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  of wow, I grew up. Okay, we fight over that all the time. All right, brother, just having fun. So
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  thank you so much. This is great. We'll talk to you later. We'll link soon. All right, guys. Thank
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  you. I if that sounds like a phenomenal book, I will get my hands on a copy. I hope you do too.
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  Thanks, friends. God bless you for sharing the podcast and for just supporting us by praying,
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  against the spiritual warfare and God's provision and protection over Todd's ministry,
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  over our ministry. We're just thankful for you. God bless you. And as always, keep speaking
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  the truth about things that matter.