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NFL Week 16 Saturday Slate | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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Yeah, all systems going clear the lift up. What's up everyone? Tyler
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Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for another edition, a special edition actually
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of the it's a Saturday two gamer NFL slate. Gonna break things down for
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you guys there. We're gonna just talk through that slate first. Then we're
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actually gonna have a showdown segment at the end where while we are on our
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channel. More on that in a second. We will still bring up the
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run the SIMS page, go through some of the SIMS segment for that night
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game tonight. Got my guy Hoop with me here. As always going to
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cover a lot of that some stuff that we've got going over the next couple
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of days. But Hoop, I'll bring you in first, man, we
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got to chat about this slate here. We've got two games on the docket
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already. The chat saying tough sledding, you know, tough slate, all
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these other things. I think we can get through it though, because you
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know, Josh Allen is going to be popular. But then we could talk
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down from there. So what's your first thoughts? Yeah, I mean,
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not the greatest slate, but it's better than you know, a shitty Showdown
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slate. I mean, at least you have two potentially shitty games instead of
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one, more options, less likelihood for duplication at the top, you know,
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better chance to kind of solo shift, and five hundred thousand dollars up
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top on Draftking. So definitely definitely way more appealing than a one crappy game.
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We have two crappy games instead of one, which I'll take any day
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of the week. Prize pools are big, like I said, and yeah,
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we'll go through. Break it Down starts a busy week I mean,
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we got you know, the two today, busy weekend. We start the
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two today, got the two today, We got the full slate tomorrow,
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which we'll have our normal Sunday morning show me you and title, and then
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we have the three game Christmas Day slate. We have that big NBA Christmas
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Day slate. You know, holidays are here, you know, Merry Christmas,
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Happy Holidays to everyone out there, whatever you celebrate, wish you and
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your family the best. But we'll be working all weekend and you know,
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definitely spending time with the family as well. I got to find that proper
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who bring up what you got and then I'll talk about how we'll roll through
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it. Here. Pushed the way up for the last minute because I know
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it'll take her four hours to compete, so I can get here for the
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show uninterrupted. Yeah, lots of good stuff. We got a lot of
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shows like who said we're gonna record the Christmas Day one for you guys.
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Are guys Title and Hebrew Cheetah Rio are going to record the Monday Big five
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Gamer for NBA. So we're gonna have a lot of extra content for you
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guys over the weekend. But I think Hoop for this two gamer, I'm
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gonna do it kind of how Ham and I do the NBA one. Like
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we could just look at it from a two game perspective, position by position,
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it's easier to talk through it, and then what we'll do is we'll
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go to the sim segment for the actual showdown. By the way, I
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got to give kudos to the chat finally came through. They had the what
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was it? The Rams and the over finally came through because Derek Carr battled
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back at the end and found a way to get to your boy spot on
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with the bold calls, by the way, and I wish, I wish
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I have taken advantage of it in the betting market more so, but the
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calls on these games have been spot on. I know the Saints scored some
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garbage time at the end, but the Rams dominated that game. Yeah,
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anytime you're on that, hopefully you got some of those takes today because anytime
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it's with the tight end whisper Hoop, or it's with these blowouts in these
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spots, or it's when you say someone completely sucks. But this is the
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week they're going to come through your crystal wall somehow tells you exactly when that's
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going to be. Shout out to some of our members out there. Kim
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says. The hot take is the Chargers win tonight. That is a hot
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one. That is a very hot one, steaming hot. That is really
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hot one. Actually the other one is who set it up here? Earlier
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someone had it. I don't know where it went. Anyway. There was
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another one that said easton Stick Day as well, so we got a couple
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of people thinking that for sure. And then Andrew says, looking to get
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back in soon. Quick question about these two game slates, how do you
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how different do you need to get for high dollars single entry? So who,
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I'll let you take that one to start things off, and then we'll
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dive into the slate overall, starting at the quarterback position. Yeah, I
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mean for the two game slate. I mean, honestly, there's really only
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so much you can do. I mean, there's not like you're not going
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to find like a three percent like diamond in the rough guy. I mean,
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it's probably more like what you do with roster construction. I think,
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you know, maybe overloading in a spot potentially playing like two running backs from
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the same team to get differ that sort of thing. But really, on
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a two game slate, there's not muchigin to it, dude. The nice
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thing about this slate is, you know where majority of the ownership's going.
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I mean, it's gonna be Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Bills for
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sure. Everything else for the most part. You know, I guess there
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are some other pretty popular spots, but everyone's gonna be playing a lot of
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Bills. So if you want to get different right out of the gate,
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one way would be to go a little bit different and maybe play I don't
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know, a different team heavy, but it's hard on a two game slate
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to get really really different. Yeah, or just jam six bills in.
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You can do that too. That's worth two of the last like eight slates
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like this where they've been on there, it's usually that what it is,
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you just jam all of the bills in. That's definitely a way that you
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can go. We'll talk through it though when we get to the positions and
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the game. So, did you have a first take on how the games
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play out today? Hoop? Before we get to going through that, and
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then Gary says, here's a new law mower with a red bow will be
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out in Hoop's front yard on Christmas morning. Man, that would get me
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pretty excited. I am not gonna lie. If I woke up and Santa
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delivered me a brand new mower sitting out there in the front front yard,
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I would be That would make my holiday season, There's no doubt about it.
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But I unfortunately don't think that's gonna I like my bower though. I
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mean, me and my mower have some good chemistry, so I don't think
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I could push it aside at this point. But you know, that sort
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of stuff does get me, does get me going, that's for sure.
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In terms of these games, I mean the Bengals Steelers, I mean I
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don't know. I mean, I just don't I don't have a strong read
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on the game. I mean, going to Pittsburgh, it can be a
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tough place to play. Would I be surprised if Pittsburgh got the win.
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No, the Bengals are favored by three. I mean, I could really
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see that one going either way. And then that second game, I mean,
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the Bills are kind of starting to roll now. Big favorites the Chargers
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clearly done. I mean, there's nothing here, but you know, the
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firing of the head coach and all the other guys that went along with it.
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Sometimes you see these teams pop up in these spots and play well.
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Am I predicting the Chargers play well today? No? I know, I
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think that the Bills are rolling right now. I expect the Bills to get
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the job done. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Chargers put up a
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fight, play a little inspired. I mean, that last game they played
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was, I mean pathetic. You'd see the players had quit on the coach.
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Those those fumbles where it seem like they're almost literally dropping the ball on
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purpose. It's like I could have ripped the ball out of those guys' hands
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on those plays. So I wouldn't be surprised if they make it competitive.
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I do think the Bills do get the job done, though, for sure.
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Yeah, and obviously peop are going to see that total that game and
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focus on it heavily. You talk about you the Josh Allen stuff, which
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you'll get into in a second, how easy it is to afford him on
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this slate with some of the values just based on the other positions it's just
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our projections not updated yet for this morning. We'll get an update in there
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shortly, but just bring it up so I could show you guys. But
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when you get to you know, James Cook being the highest price running back
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here or sorry, not the highest price, it's Austin Eckler, but highest
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price being at seventy two hundred, you go here. Obviously Stefan Diggs at
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eighty seven hundred fits in, but after that it's there's no chase this week,
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right, so you've got Higgins at sixty five hundred. Then it kind
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of drops off a cliff if you don't like Dalton king Kaid or you're okay
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being off Kinkaid, it's thirty eight hundred and down. And then of course
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defenses have very little cost to them, so realistically it's very affordable and easy
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to get a guy like Josh Allen in. I will say this, like,
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as far as that first game goes, this is kind of the spots
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and I can't really get heavy behind Mason Rudolph here, and so I won't
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be selling you on that, but just to say this is type. These
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are the types of games on how Tomlin gets to all those break even and
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winning seasons. I think it's like thirteen of sixteen winning seasons for the Steelers.
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It's at home, it's in Pittsburgh. Somehow they just grind it out
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and come through. So you can see that on this slate as well.
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I cannot wait to get Hoops takes when we get to the running back position
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around Najee Harris and the concrete boots. But we'll get there. Let's start
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at the quarterback position though, Hoop and again just blending it with our projections
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here. No secret, Alan a lot more expensive. They go into these
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other guys projects better, all of that for good reason. But what's your
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take on how you're gonna handle Josh Allen today? Because I know some of
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these slates in the past you've just sort of been all in and said forget
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those other guys. Do you have thoughts around that for this? If this
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was prior to the offensive coordinator getting fired, this is a spot where I
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could just go all in on Josh Allen and just run one hundred and fifty
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Josh Allen teams and led it roll. There's way more risk now with the
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way they're running their offense, and you've seen their offense kind of starts with
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James Cook, and we've seen it for what is a four or five straight
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week since they fired that guy. James Cook is a priority for them offensively,
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and he has a lot of different ways to kind of control the game.
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As we saw last week, they did not pass what Josh Allen had
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ninety four passing yards in that game that it would have been unheard of prior
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to that offensive coordinator getting fired. If they get a big lead, they're
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fine just grinding out the clock, which we saw last week they did barely
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pass the ball in the second half. Now will they do that again against
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the Chargers. I'm not one hundred percent sure they would, just because I
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think they respected the Cowboys a little bit and they wanted to make sure that
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there is no fishing business. They know probably they'll be able to handle the
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Chargers regardless. I don't think they go to that full run attack to kind
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of grind out, grind, grind out the clock, but it definitely is
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in the realm of possibilities. So I think it does introduce some risk to
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Josh Allen's fantasy performance. Now you know, I have Josh Allen, as
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you know, my highest known quarterback. There's no secret about that. And
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I think also which you know, this is part of the premium product at
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run Period or at Chipping Nation. I you know, wrote wrote this up
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where I think Josh Allen could still be the quarterback you need. At a
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floor performance, he goes out there and puts up sixteen seventeen eighteen fantasy points,
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like he could still be the guy that you need at the end of
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the day. So you know, it does still revolve around Josh Allen today
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at the quarterback position. Yeah, the chat's all talking about Mason Rudolph,
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like forget, don't forget about this right who Mason Rudolph Christmas weekend. Gotta
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go with the name. But then you didn't tell us that he's a good
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play today when the chat said, he's absolute cheeks. So it can't be
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the crystal ball spot for Mason Rudolph. So I don't see that one happening
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with him. Ross says he is three and zero versus the Bengals, the
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big Cat Hunter talking about big Dog over there on the PGA streets, the
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Tiger Woods, all the big dog memes, Big Cat Hunter, Mason Rudolph.
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There is ways to stack it up definitely, like you could do it
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there. I know our guy Ham is kind of interested in it. He
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mentioned it in his slate plan and he likes, you know, Deontae and
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you can get some talk around this week with Warren in there. You got
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all kinds of stuff going on there. But I think that it's just tough
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to imagine the other guy I was gonna bring up here, and you know
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you look at you know the floor performance piece you mentioned on Josh Allen at
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least with Browning. I mean you could see some opportunity here. So I
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like Browning in this spot. It's two grand less. It allows me to
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fit a lot more. I can get three pieces from the Buffalo La C
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game where you can get like Diggs, Cook and Eckler. We will have
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a conversation on Eckler in a second as well. I think there's lots of
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good conversation to be had around that. But is there anything else you want
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to add on quarterback or anything to add on with Jake Browning and the Bengals
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there, Because the thing about Browning again, we just showed it floor ceiling
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kind of for that price, like it's all right there, but also we
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get a more condensed target tree with no Jamar Chase And I don't know what
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your take is going to be on Mix and when we get there, but
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you can play him with Mix and just like you can play Josh Allen with
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James Cook. Yeah. I really like Browning. I mean you and I
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have kind of been on him for the past three weeks since he's taken over
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this job. We saw it was the primetime game. He looked really good,
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continues to put up Fantasy points. He's definitely the number two for me.
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And it's nice because when you do pair him with some of his pass
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catchers, it's cheap and you still can get exposure to some of the higher
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end guys as well. Pittsburgh down at least two guys in their secondary.
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They got hurt last week, so it is going to be a weak spot
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of them. I'm in on Browning. I like his pass catchers. Today
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you can pare him with Mix and you compare him with Chase Brown like we'll
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talk about in a little bit. I think Browning is in a pretty good
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spot here to to succeed. Now, you know the Mason Rudolph stuff I
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get, but man, it's it's it's scary for me. I don't really
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want to be on Mason Rudolph today all that much. And then you know,
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East and Stick looked a little rough to start, but then kind of
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turned it on, got their fantasy wise ended up putting twenty fantasy points in
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that blowout game. Like there's no risk with him, Like he's gonna go
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out there and like it's not like they're gonna bench this kid, Like he's
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gonna play the whole game regardless of what happens in that game, They're likely
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playing from behind. He's cheap in a lot of ways to kind of to
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pair him up. So, you know, good with Alan, but I
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do think there's a little bit of risk honestly with Josh Allen for that reason.
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I know someone posted it in the chat. They said that you know
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that's not gonna happen ever, but that Buffalo that they didn't plan on doing
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that. Dallas just couldn't stop the run. Now that makes sense. But
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will the Chargers be able to stop the run of the second half? Probably
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not either. So I think there is a little bit of risk with Josh
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Allen. But again I think a floor performance, he could still be the
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guy that you need today, browning stick I'm good with And you know,
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Rudolph, I don't really want to be there all that much. Yeah,
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and well, a lot of this stuff is valid. I will address this
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stuff quickly. Already brought this one up, our guy Ross. Rudolph is
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three and zero against the Bengals. Great, not the narrative one, Rudolph
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the Red Nose. We already see that one. But just where are some
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of the other ones here? Let me just see right here, Rudolph and
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Deontay have the best chemistry, check their history on limited sample size, et
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cetera, et cetera. We've seen these games play out. Could not be
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a better spot for boy. This is all true stuff like yeah, Porter
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has been incredible by the way, too, which was brought up right after
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Porter can shadow Higgins all that. I don't know when we'll learn, though,
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I know everyone's got to throw it out there, and it's fine.
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I like all good facts, all true. But remember two games late.
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Literally none of this stuff matters. It's one slip foot, it's anything can
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happen on the Oh Walker sucks. There's no way Kenneth Walker can have a
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big game last week because the matchup is bad on paper on a single game
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showdown slate when no one's on them. That's the whole point, Like,
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I don't all this stuff goes out the window. Build your lineups accordingly,
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but you know, looking for that stuff. If you build the perfect DVP
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rankings lineup and the perfect shadow matchup quarterback, et cetera, et cetera,
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you got the same lineup as everybody else out there that thinks like that.
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You need the unknowns to happen, and the best place for the unknowns to
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happen is on a two game slate. Literally, one thing breaks your way
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and it's a game changer for you. So don't be putting ten diamond in
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the rough plays into your pool and trying to make sure you got three of
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them in every lineup. You don't have to go that aggressive. But I'm
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saying you can look for other things to happen and you don't really have to
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worry about that stuff as much. It will be great when Porter does shut
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down Higgins and you get to go after the game and brag and say,
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see, new Porter was gonna shut down Higgins, et cetera, et cetera.
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But that's not what we're looking out for on this slate, I actually
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hope more people would do that. Now, go ahead and hop in.
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But you get what I'm saying. I'm just gonna say. The other aspect
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of that is, yeah, maybe he does shut him down the entire game.
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Okay, maybe he does. Maybe he's got three for thirty or something.
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But on a two game slate, if he finds the end zone once,
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like you might just need him. If he gets to twelve somehow,
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that could be good enough on a two game slate. So the expectations have
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to come way down on what you're trying to get. I mean, he's
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their best end zone red zone target right now with chase out, doesn't need
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to do that much to potentially be on the optimal. So yeah, it's
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tough to really play those matchups and things like that. I mean, it's
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just two game slay one play. All that shit just goes right out the
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window. And then real quick, well, Ron, we're gonna go to
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running back. But do you like with your some of your stacks, just
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doing a quick handbuild here on the on the solver, just to look at
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it with our projections, Like if you go Alan Diggs kinkaid, you only
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got four point seven left. Like even if you find a cheaper d and
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you say, okay, i'll play the Steelers at home, you get five
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k Did you look at some of this, like what was your preferred stacking
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method? Is it just Alan and Diggs? Is there is there other ways
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that you were looking at? What what did you like the best out of
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this set up here? Yeah? I mean so what if you play the
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high high priced guys Alan Diggs, Yeah, uh, you got knocks in
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there or Kinkay, whatever it may be. It's like you can go a
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variety of different ways today when you do stack stack these these guys up.
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But yeah, if you play the high end guys are immediately uh, you're
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immediately down. So you're looking at you know, maybe double tight end,
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you're looking at punting at wide receiver. You're looking at having to play some
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some cheap running backs, which they're they're they're truly is is not? So
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I don't know. Yeah, there's a lot of different ways to go,
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you know. Even uh, we'll talk about him in a few Like Gabe
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Davis, like he has what goose eggs in three out of four games,
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but like he's the perfect guy for like this sort of slate. They're like
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he's known as what like one of the best blockers out there, and they
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use him to block a time. They're going to reward this guy at some
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point, like they're gonna get him a game. There's no doubt about it.
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So it could be today. You have a variety of different ways to
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go go about stacking up up the Bills today. But yeah, if you
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go with the high end dudes, you know you're immediately down there bargain hunting
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for sure. Yeah, just seeing what we got here. But just to
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look at it, like you're David, so we say different, that's different
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right here, right, you know something like this. You want to play
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the Bills and be different, like this is this is one way to do
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it immediately, Like immediately you're way different. And we're going to segue to
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running back. But whether you like Warren or not, just using a prime
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example, like this lineup is already pretty different and you now have six point
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five k average left and like I said, when you get to wide receiver,
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you're not going in this lineup example, you're not going to a digs.
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Probably you can you can overstack it too, don't get me wrong,
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say you can fit this still and get there as well. But if you
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were trying to avoid digs here and you don't like the Higgins matchup, I
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mean you got money for days to spend wherever else you want. These are
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the types of lineups that you can see find their way through, so definitely
20:52
don't hate something like that. We saw a Davis Shakir lineup work when the
20:56
Bills played the Eagles that week. It ended up being Davis and Sir that
21:00
were needed and then Devonte Smith on the other side. So it was definitely
21:03
stuff like that that you could see going on. And yeah, like other
21:06
stuff like Sean says, again, guy's been incredible. The stats are there
21:10
at the point was valid. But anybody can you get cooked on any day?
21:15
We're talking college now, he's it's it's not really he is bringing up
21:18
an example because it is. But the point would be the best cornerbacks get
21:22
cooked all the time. Remember the week earlier in the season. Oh man,
21:26
that chat was just painful that day about how certain was gonna shut down
21:32
Tyreek Hill, and Tyreek Hill burned him for sixty on like literally the first
21:36
drive with the peace sign in his face like seeing, yeah, it just
21:41
doesn't matter, like it doesn't matter, and on a two game slay it
21:45
matters even less. Let's move on. Let's talk about these running backs here
21:48
who we talked about Cook and getting the action. I mean, if you
21:52
look here these games with him, you can see his attempts right on here.
21:55
Like it was twenty five last week, still at a couple of targets,
21:59
end up getting third. Nine the week before ended up getting more targets,
22:02
had five targets that we end up getting twenty five. But look thirty
22:04
nine, twenty five, sixteen, nineteen sixteen, it's been pretty solid.
22:08
And I'm not sure what you think of the overall running back slate. You're
22:11
usually not a Pittsburgh running back guy, But where are you at with these
22:15
running backs today? Because it gets them quick tough. I mean, if
22:18
I was going to lock one guy on today's slate, it would be James
22:21
Cook. I'd lock him over, Josh Allen, I'd lock him over,
22:23
Digs, I'd lock him over you know, Tyler Boyd if everyone likes him,
22:27
or Higgins, whatever it may be. If I was going to make
22:30
a big move today and just lock one guy, would be James Cook.
22:33
He's going to be a big time focus on what they do moving forward.
22:38
It's like, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Like he's been
22:41
dominating, they're playing the best football of the season. They're going to get
22:45
this guy the ball, There's no doubt about it, in a really good
22:48
matchup against the Chargers team that could potentially be giving up at this point.
22:52
So I think James Cook is just clearly the best play on the slate.
22:56
Is he going to be popular? Absolutely not Absolutely, He's gonna be one
23:00
of the most popular guys on the slide. He probably is the most popular
23:03
guy in the slate. But again, if you're looking to lock somebody,
23:07
I think it would be James Cook today, just a phenomenal spot. Running
23:10
backs week, you have three other teams that are basically splitting carries. I
23:14
mean Joe Mixon and Chase Brown. I mean it's a pretty close split between
23:18
those guys. Now, do I like those guys both individually? Yeah?
23:22
Some, But I mean there's gonna be some takeaway there. Jalen Warren,
23:26
Najie Harris, you know the story there. I mean, it's gonna be
23:27
a split. It's actually looks like it's trending towards Jalen Warren, which is
23:32
nice because definitely prefer to play Warren over Najie Harris and then Austin Eckler all
23:37
the way up at seventy two hundred their seasons done, Like how much are
23:41
they going to use him moving forward? You know there's some risk in his
23:45
playing time I think overall, and I still don't want to play the other
23:48
you know, the other dudes behind him, Spiller, Joshua Kelly, Like
23:52
that doesn't sound funny either, although Spiller did get what sixteen rush attempts last
23:56
game, mostly in like garbage time, but this could be another their garbage
24:00
time spot for the Chargers today. So running back is really really weak.
24:06
James Cook just looks so much stronger than all these other guys, and again
24:11
he's gonna get all the ownership all that, but he is the guy that
24:14
I potentially looked at to lock today. Joe Mixon does have a nice touchdown
24:18
scoring prop. He's favored to score, which I mean it's not like a
24:22
huge number. I believe it was like minus one fifteen, one twenty.
24:26
Pulling it up right now is yeah, minus one ten, So slight favorite
24:30
to score, and that's better than all the other running backs on the slate
24:33
besides Cook. I mean, Cook's only minus one fifteen, so he's right
24:37
there with Cook. You know he's gonna be the goal line guy for sure.
24:40
But you know Brown is getting mixed in quite a bit. But you
24:42
know this position. For me, there's two parts of this position that are
24:47
very important. I think what you do with James Cook and then what you
24:51
do with Austin Eckler, because I think there is some risk there and I
24:55
haven't I haven't really decided what I'm gonna do with Eckler, so I'm curious
24:57
to get your take on him. Andrew asked this, like, do we
25:00
have any info on the interim head coach and how he likes to run an
25:03
offense? Don't know, don't care, Only because the same thing I said,
25:07
it's gonna be one game today, one sample. I think the obvious
25:08
would be. And that's why I, like you said, it's important to
25:11
get this right. No, we know Cook is good. This gets talked
25:15
about FanDuel. I think it's fine. You know it works on both sites.
25:18
I say fandal because it is more of a touchdown site twelve to one
25:21
though thirteen to one someplaces, is that bet just go bett two touchdowns.
25:25
It would come in handy on a two game slate. But again it's hard
25:26
to imagine. But if you could sneak one in early and then they do
25:30
get ahead late, I don't hate that. The thing is, though,
25:33
I don't think coaching wise or nothing, who cares. I think you just
25:37
go with Eckler and try and run the ball and keep Josh Allen off the
25:41
field. Is it going to work? I don't know. Maybe not,
25:44
probably not, but I least start there. So I have way more interest
25:48
in Cook Eckler, and I have more interest in the Pittsburgh guys than the
25:52
mix inside. Again, like the touchdown prop, I think it's not crazy
25:56
when he scores a touchdown and be like, that's what he does and he
25:57
gets volume and all of that. But I think he's still going to get
26:02
ownership just because there's nowhere else. Really guess, just to cut in,
26:04
just thinking about it a little bit more now that you kind of mentioned like
26:07
the new coaching staff, it's like they're gonna want to impress a little bit
26:11
today. These guys like they're fighting for a potential job in the NFL,
26:15
so have to imagine they're going to use their best players when they can't now
26:18
well at work against the Bills. Possibly not, But now that I kind
26:22
of think about that a little bit more, you have to have to imagine
26:25
Eckler's workload. It's pretty pretty secure here today, Like they know he's their
26:27
best running back. Imagine that they're going to want to try to feature him
26:30
a little bit here today. So yeah, maybe I do like Eckler a
26:33
little bit more than when I initially talked about it. And again you saw
26:37
the Spiller stuff again, Like you said, most of it came in garbage
26:40
time. They got blown out by what forty something points. Yeah, of
26:41
course he's going to get those attempts, so you're not going to see that.
26:45
But one thing was for certain was Eckler was still getting the targets early
26:48
and often. So if they can stick to that sort of game plan,
26:49
I've got no problem with it. I missed it because I was reading some
26:52
of the chat comments. Did you have a preference between what you said you
26:56
like Warren overhears right, Yeah, yeah, I mean like the workloadd I
27:00
mean war especially on a site like DK, I mean the game Warren's game
27:04
just fits DK so much better. He has a little more expensive which which
27:08
I'm fine with, but decide in between the two. I mean, it's
27:11
got to be Warren over Harris for me, definitely. But again, this
27:15
is a slight two games slate where if Nase finds the end zone like that
27:19
could be good enough at a at a week running back position, and he'll
27:23
he will get opportunities if they get, you know, to the goal line.
27:26
So I'm not saying I'm fading Nase Harris, but I certainly prefer Warren
27:30
over him. Yeah, maybe the coaching change helps Eckler like it helped James
27:34
Cook. There, we'll see how that goes. And see this. You
27:40
can definitely do same game. Parlays out there and find this and just throw
27:41
them both on and bet that. Uh you know, two tds for Cook,
27:45
two tds for Friar Mooth? What would that be? So two or
27:48
more? Ug in here out man, I don't even have it's not loaded
27:52
up yet. I'll see, Oh, there you go, two tds for
27:55
him, and then who'd you say, Friar Mooth the one? It would
27:59
be nice Christmas bonus if that hit. Yeah, I gotta switch games,
28:03
but it'd be pretty good. Yeah, so if you want to bet that
28:06
you can find that stuff out there. The other thing, just quick hoop
28:08
about the mixing thing is do we really believe the higher ownership because we know
28:15
Cook is getting it and we know Eckler fits a bunch of those builds and
28:18
if people are more excited just going back now thinking out loud, why we
28:22
like talking through this stuff is like, if everyone's going to Higgins or Boyd,
28:26
then does it become a spot where mixing actually gets a little bit left
28:30
in the dark there where people are going to one of those Pittsburgh guys with
28:33
James Cook and or Eckler all three and Mixon does get dropped down a little
28:37
bit from an ownership perspective, Yeah, I think he has to get squeezed
28:41
a little bit. You know, everyone kind of has mixing around that fifty
28:45
percent number, and uh, I think it's probably more in like the forties,
28:48
potentially maybe right around forty. I mean, it's got to get squeezed
28:51
a little bit just because of that price tag. Especially people are gonna be
28:55
playing Josh Allen at quarterback. They're gonna want James Cook, They're gonna want,
29:00
you know, steff On Diggs are going to want the you know,
29:03
t Higgins of the world. Like, I think mix In is down that
29:07
list in terms of priority for people today, So I think that number,
29:11
I think his ownership will be lower than the fifty percent number that everyone's showing.
29:15
Yeah, this is another thing too. Don't forget about this guy,
29:18
right, Chase Brown. Regardless if you like it or not, the price
29:21
is still pretty fair at forty nine hundred. He's not projecting well, but
29:23
it's another guy that I would feature in there. They've been using him a
29:26
lot more these last three games where it's actually his numbers look better than Najee
29:30
Harris, And I know it's one hundred bucks cheaper, but it's like that
29:33
that is a potential spot you could go. And they're using him right out
29:37
of the gate too. It's like you mix them will come in for a
29:40
couple of plays and then they go right They're going right to Brown. He's
29:41
getting mixed in immediately, so it's not like it's all right, you're getting
29:45
one, You're getting you know, one set of plays, like they're putting
29:48
them in there right away. And these games were with Jamar Chase also for
29:52
the most part, right, So you got spots there and stuff like that,
29:55
So I definitely could see it where he gets mixed in as well over
29:59
using mix in, And that also goes back to my original thought of the
30:02
potential of a squeeze on a guy like Joe Mixon here when you've already got
30:06
Cooke getting it and then you see other stuff getting spread out down below.
30:08
Anything else at running back that you want to talk about before we move to
30:11
wide receiver? What are your thoughts on playing like Warren and Harris together or
30:18
mixing in brown like yes or no? Or are you gonna, you know,
30:22
make a rule to not do that. I don't make a rule,
30:25
but I don't think i'll get it. I again, once you get that
30:27
much cook in there, once you get Eckler in there, once you get
30:30
some of these other fillers in there, it's just really tough for me to
30:33
get that. You could run a if I was gonna run it, I'll
30:36
be honest, I would run it Warren, Harris, Steelers D and just
30:40
lock it up that way. I could look at some of those handles maybe
30:41
after, but I'd be all love it. I don't love that. I
30:45
just don't think there's enough to go around, that's for sure. But yeah,
30:48
it's really just if they do run all day the I guess the other
30:52
really interesting one then, if we're doing this right now, would be to
30:55
run this Cook gets there early and often this guy does slam a touchdown or
31:00
two in and just the other guys don't do much on the slate and you
31:03
got that blowout angle as well. But even then it's really tough to like
31:07
to go there like I would almost because it's like you don't want to go
31:11
heavy on the chargers, you don't want to go you can't really play any
31:15
other bills guys, so then you're basically stacking the first game. Yeah,
31:18
this would be the other ways. Like I said, even then, it'd
31:21
be hard for me to get Murray in the downtime, like if in the
31:23
blowout time. More so kind of on the opposite side of the guy we
31:26
just saw get sixteen touches plus in a blowout where it's like you could actually
31:30
then get there with Cook and his defense dominating stick. It becomes the Spiller
31:34
show later on, and that those are the three that you need within that
31:38
game, and then you can fill it out with pretty much whatever you want
31:41
beyond that, and you can still have a guy like you could still actually
31:45
have Digs in a lineup like this and get away with it. So I
31:48
mean just on PPR points alone. So there are lots of different ways that
31:51
you can go there. Let's look at some of our wide receivers here.
31:53
The other thing is Pickens Deontay both pop a little bit, but like I
31:56
said, Boyden Higgins, you knew we would see up there. So Boyd
32:00
and Higgins are going to be popular. Diggs will be popular because he's easily
32:04
affordable. What's your thoughts here at the wide receiver position? Who are some
32:07
of the guys that stand out for you? Yeah? I mean it's definitely
32:10
the Cincinnati guys. I do like quite a bit, you know, Boyd
32:15
Higgins, I'm good with even Trent and Irwin. He's gonna be out there
32:19
a lot. He's what three three K, So good with him. You
32:23
know. Deontay Johnson. I always kind of like Deontay Johnson, uh fifty
32:28
one. I prefer him over Pickens. Our projections like Pickens better, but
32:31
I definitely prefer Deontay Johnson over Pickens. If you're deciding between those two,
32:37
you have the Chargers guys without Keenan Allen. You know, Quintin Johnson just
32:40
disappoints every single freaking game, Like it doesn't matter the situation, doesn't matter
32:45
who's in or out, Quinton Johnson will find a way to not do essentially
32:50
anything. But you look at it last three games, he has been somewhat
32:53
productive, so there is some hope there, but you know he's has a
32:58
lot of hype behind him. Joshua Palmer same story. I mean, you
33:00
can look at the last game, but that was you know, garbage time
33:04
for Quentin Johnson and Joshua Palmer. They're down by like freaking forty and those
33:08
guys got there at the end because the Chargers continued to pass. So you
33:12
know, I'm not really thinking about what they did last game. But you
33:14
have to consider both those, especially if you're playing, you know, josh
33:17
Allen at quarterback. You want some back and forth. I mean, the
33:21
best way to get the back and forth is through the pass catchers of the
33:23
Chargers. And then on the Bills side of things, you know, I
33:30
think the Bills passing game is the spot a lot of people want to go.
33:32
I definitely want to go there, but I do think there's some degree
33:35
of risk if they continue, you know, what they did last week.
33:38
It's kind of like the the chief stuff that we've talked about all season long,
33:42
where they're fine winning these ugly, grinded out type games, is that
33:46
the Bills. Now are the Bills willing to do that? Like? Are
33:49
they going to continue what they did last week? So a little bit of
33:52
risk. I do think there's a chance a guy like Stefan Diggs, he's
33:55
not going to be low on, don't get me wrong, but gets squeezed
33:59
maybe just like a little bit because everyone's going to James Cook for sure,
34:04
right Like everyone's playing James Cook. People are gonna go to quarterback and say,
34:07
yeah, I'll just play Josh Allen. You're immediately down a lot in
34:12
salary. And then if you do play Allen, you do play Cook and
34:15
you try to put in digs that's what you had up originally, you're immediately
34:19
full value the rest of your lineup. I think Diggs is the one that
34:22
people will say, you know what, I don't necessarily need digs. I'll
34:25
pass on him and I'll go, you know, I'll take a chance on
34:30
like Dawson Knox or King Kate or something like that. Over Dig. So
34:32
I think there is a chance Digs again, He's not gonna be lowan,
34:37
don't get me wrong. It's a two game freaking slate. I think there's
34:38
a chance, out of all the guys, he gets maybe a little bit
34:43
squeezed in there. So I'll make sure I have a decent chuck of Diggs.
34:46
He's They're gonna get the ball to either Digs. Digs or Gabe Davis
34:50
is catching a touchdown today. One of those two. Like after last week
34:52
where the offense did absolutely nothing from a passing perspective, one of these guys
34:58
is getting an early touchdown. It's either Digs or Gabe Davis. I do
35:00
want to be over on Gabe Davis. There's a lot of risks. I
35:04
mean, he has three goose eggs in the last four games, and he's
35:07
fine with this role. Like there's been interviews and stuff. He's just all
35:10
about the team. He's a great blocker. They use him time. They're
35:14
gonna reward this guy at some point. I have a feeling that today is
35:17
the day. I have a feeling Gabe Davis catches a touchdown today, So
35:21
I'm gonna make sure I have a lot of Gabe Davis. These calls have
35:23
been spot on all season long. You can clip this after the game.
35:27
Gabe Davis is catching the touchdown today and I feel pretty damn good about that.
35:31
There it is, folks. You got it the dust, the guy
35:34
that he says is dust that all of a sudden has his big game.
35:37
After the let me see what we got to go back to wide receiver for
35:39
two seconds. We'll go down to Gabe Davis for the game log watchers.
35:44
Absolutely, you know, bad bad, He's you know, really one game
35:47
here out of all of it. But he says it's going to be today.
35:50
That's when who comes through. Every single time. I will say this,
35:52
just when you're bringing up an idea there, this is another build I
35:55
like today because it's I always call it like the red zone zone build.
36:00
It's like, once they get up there, you could definitely see a spot.
36:02
I know there's Davis, I know there's Digs like you mentioned, but
36:05
if it's not them, like Alan can run it in. James Cook could
36:07
have ran them all the way up there and run it in. Dawson Knox
36:10
is a guy that can get open up there. Once he's in the end
36:13
zone. So I kind of like something like this where most will have one
36:16
of Davis Shakir dig something like that, or even Kincaid. This still frees
36:21
up money and gives you a way to get after the points when they get
36:23
down to the red zone end zone. So I do like that. We
36:27
talked about East and Stick earlier, and we're gonna talk about some of his
36:30
wide receivers here in a second. Somebody asked them about Palmer and Johnson,
36:32
our guy Ross. Yeah, definitely, Danny. It's pretty straightforward, always
36:36
projections like and then if you're putting correlation and leverage and all the stuff we're
36:39
teaching on the site, or if you're a member like it sounds like,
36:42
go go to the nfl DFS education course. It'll break it all down for
36:45
you. Ownership is just a product of what you're putting together there, but
36:49
if you're using correlation and leverage in some places, you can can ignore that
36:52
completely and just focus on what your build looks like and getting what you want
36:57
in there, versus worrying about all but this guy's seven percent own I wish
37:00
you was twenty one percent. Doesn't matter, Like, build your lineups accordingly
37:04
definitely use the projections to put yourself in a better spot, especially NBA you
37:07
asked about earlier. Definitely an NBA. So other guys here. I do
37:13
like Palmer, so I like Palmer over Johnston. I like Boyd over Higgins.
37:17
I like Pickens over Johnson as well. Like I said, just going
37:21
back to this, I like your take. Obviously, people are bringing up
37:22
the Mason Rudolph connection. There was also a lot of talk back then too
37:27
though, when Rudolph was like I remember Tom was like, get Pickens the
37:30
ball, Like you need to get this guy the ball. They but they've
37:32
been that same thing has been said for how long's Pickings been in the NFL,
37:37
Like every single week. I feel like they say they got to get
37:38
Pickens the ball. They try, guy gets it, it doesn't, it
37:42
doesn't work. It's just that, Yeah, I mean that's the thing.
37:45
But uh, you can do both. I like your take on Davis.
37:50
I wouldn't hate something like this and just plugging these guys in and starting there,
37:53
like that's two cheaper guys. I think most people will be on Boyd
37:58
here at forty six hundred. You can split the difference you're going above with
38:00
Pickens a little more above. With Gave Davis, you can still get away
38:05
with some of this other stuff. And even if you went with a build
38:07
with Cook and Alan here, you still have five K left. There's lots
38:10
of different ways you can go. The most of the tight ends are cheap.
38:13
There's other cheaper mid tier wide receivers. I definitely think this is an
38:16
option. The one thing I will say though, and no surprise, no
38:21
difference fro where everybody's already going. They're going on Josh Allen, but I'm
38:24
saying that the setup of Digs Diggs requires Diggs story can be without Josh Allen
38:31
very obviously. He can catch eight malls for ninety yards and still be needed
38:36
at eighty seven hundred. He's fine because the slate is the way it is.
38:38
But if Gave Davis has a big day, it's probably a huge day
38:42
for Josh Allen. Everything else he does the rest, he spreads it around,
38:45
running it in all that. So it's no surprise. But it's just
38:47
to say the truth, and I would prefer to have Davis in my Allen
38:52
stacks as opposed to a one off to just oh hoop said he's gonna have
38:54
a big day. If he has a big day, it's likely that it's
38:58
with Josh Allen, so it seems obvious, but keep that in mind.
39:00
Yeah, like Zach says could have one of those old school Isaiah McKenzie three
39:05
touchdown games. That's definitely gonna be possible. So definitely think you guys want
39:09
to keep that in mind when you're looking at it. And Danny, we
39:13
don't fully keep track of this. Man, I appreciate you in this before,
39:15
but we've given away over one hundred free memberships to the site this year,
39:20
in the last seven months, so when you're asking the same question,
39:22
they're like six times. I'm just answering eventually to get it done for you.
39:24
Man, appreciate you. Let's keep it moving here, Hoop. I'm
39:28
just going through some other low end. You brought up Erwin, who I
39:32
like. I think that's a guy that when people are focused on Boyd and
39:36
Higgins, if it ends up being this guy Eobasis or whatever a visas this
39:39
guy, it'll really tilt me. But I do like that. I like
39:42
Irwin and Shakir as the guys down low. I know some people in the
39:46
discord were bringing up like Erickson and Davis did you have any thoughts on either
39:51
of these guys just just little pieces to make everything else kind of work.
39:57
Like if they get in my one P fifty, all right, but it's
39:59
not gonna be like I'm gonna have a ton of them. And like the
40:02
chargers passing stuff like from last week, I get it, you know,
40:06
the Eastern stick and all these guys like got there and stuff. It's like
40:09
they're down by fifty or whatever. It was like forty and just chucking the
40:14
ball the entire time. Could that happen today? Like, yeah, maybe,
40:17
but like it's somewhat unlikely. I'm gonna have some stick, Don't get
40:22
me wrong, I'm gonna have these pass catchers. But like that was a
40:24
Fluke situation. I mean they were dead in the first half, like he
40:28
did absolutely nothing. It was one hundred percent garbage time. Again, it
40:30
could happen today, don't get me wrong. You just tough to bank on
40:34
that. Yeah, same even like Chad Sam Robinson or Calvin Austin, Like
40:38
you gotta get i mean, get some shares of them if you're playing them,
40:43
like I said, when you go digging for those diamonds in the rough
40:45
and hoping that they hit for you, even when you have like okay,
40:47
someone says, oh I got Calvin Austin. I threw him on a lineup
40:51
and he he got there for me, he's like one percent or two percent
40:53
owned. It's very likely all those lineups are dead lineups anyway, because they're
40:58
not gonna have the rest of the parlay put together properly. So unless you
41:00
thought one of them were coming in at like five or six percent, wanted
41:04
to get twelve percent to say you got double the field and actually have a
41:07
stake in that player getting there. That's why I don't dig for that,
41:10
and that's why you see on some slates it not even becomes something that matters
41:14
even though they end up getting there. Anything else you want to talk about
41:16
on Wide Receiver Room? If not, let's go to tight Endy. I
41:21
don't mind the mentioned Shakir. I don't mind him tight end I mean you're
41:24
going cheap. I mean everyone's cheap except King Kaid, who I do think
41:29
you know is similar to Stefan Diggs, like he's down the list of bills
41:35
that people want to play. I mean, it's Alan, it's it's Cook
41:38
and then kind of everyone else five k for King Kid, or do you
41:43
just go into the three K range and take the cheap guys. I think
41:45
a lot of people just go and take the cheap guys over a guy like
41:49
kN Kaid. So again, I think he has a chance to not be
41:52
low owned, but you know lower own that then people kind of anticipate.
41:57
Today. Everett, Friar Mooth, Hudson all in the same range. I
42:02
like Everett quite a bit today, eight targets and I believe was it back
42:07
to back games? The way they use him, I think is is perfect
42:12
in a trailing game script, which I think it will be. Evert's my
42:15
favorite pass catcher for the Chargers, my favorite tight end today. You know,
42:20
friar Mouth, I like Hudson. I think over friar Mouth. To
42:22
be honest, I like what I've seen out of Hudson so far. I
42:24
think he's very solid. I'll mix in some Dawson Knox. He was on
42:28
the field quite a bit. The thing about Dawson Knox gets you into a
42:31
different, different tier here. I mean he's an additional thousand dollars on average
42:36
cheaper than those three K guys, and he was on the field. I
42:38
mean he did nothing because they didn't pass the ball, but I wouldn't be
42:43
surprised if he caught a touchdown. If he catches a touchdown at twenty seven
42:45
hundred, probably need him today, So good with good with Knox. You
42:50
know, my boy Parham, I'll have maybe you know, a few shares
42:53
of him, just because you know it's my boy, and I gotta gotta
42:57
include him a little bit, you know, not a priority play by any
42:59
means, but I'll have a few shares of him today. I saw you
43:05
pulled up Drew sample, you know, just one target last week on my
43:08
line. I was gonna say, if you're taking a few shares of Parham,
43:12
I'll take a sample of Drew because I was put there. I think
43:15
he does actually uh you know, twenty five hundred just punted off. But
43:19
he's been in the mix before last week. It was throwing up similar points
43:22
to some of these other guys other It's not like the game log watch as
43:24
much as what you mentioned earlier on the other guy. We were talking about
43:27
where you could just see someone like them pick it up and at a ones
43:30
position like tight end. I'd rather burn it there than try and make Calvin
43:35
Austin work at wide receiver when I have like tons of wide receivers above him
43:38
that even if he gets in the box, those other guys can beat him
43:42
and out match him at tight end. It's kind of gross across the board.
43:45
Sorry, carry on, I just thought that was a good one.
43:46
No, I mean that's kind of you know where I'm at at tight end.
43:49
I mean, there's not really too much more to talk about. I
43:51
mean, you have those three guys that are priced in the same range,
43:52
Averett Farm with Hudson again I prefer Everett. You have Kinkaid, who I
43:59
think has a chance get a little bit squeezed because he's more expensive five K
44:01
coming off the Big Goose Egg which was very, very painful, and the
44:06
fan duel Live Final as I had a live team with with Kinkaid's gooseg in
44:10
there, and then Dawson Knox, which takes you to a whole another tier
44:15
much cheaper than those three K guys. Like this one too, because we
44:19
talked so much about Davis, how he'd be involved. The other thing about
44:21
Kinkaid is well, it's not really a pay up, it's just pay up
44:23
based on this slate. He's only I mean, I can't say only but
44:27
like we would have if it was a full slate right now and he was
44:30
forty four hundred on a full slate or forty three, you'd kind of be
44:31
fine with that. You'd be like, that sounds about right. Josh Allen
44:35
is his quarterback. The spot this could happen five K is a product of
44:38
it being only two games, but still I have no problem with it.
44:42
And twofold one. I think all four of these guys above him in our
44:45
projections all come in higher owned than him, because it's kind of like these
44:49
three make the most sense. They're like those one off spots that they're all
44:52
under four K. It makes it work. And then Dawson Knox is just
44:55
like if I need the money, people just say Knox or kin kid all
45:00
knocks It's fine, he can get in the box right. The setup here
45:02
on Kinkaid, though, is kind of what we've seen these last few slates.
45:06
Who where you've got the payof for probability. Look at just the other
45:10
night. Can't pay up for DeMarcus Robinson or you can, I mean goes
45:14
off and crushes it. Shaheed seven K on the showdown say way too expensive.
45:19
Nope, breaks it gets in the box early, like a sixty yard
45:22
touchdown, all that stuff. We see it week after week where these payoff
45:25
spots where it's like, ah, you just would rather save the money.
45:28
Sometimes you got to spend a little bit more. I always talk about best
45:30
buy pricing. Sometimes that nine to ninety nine TV is a good deal,
45:35
but the twelve hundred dollars TV is actually much better and will last much longer
45:37
and do more for you. That can be the case here with these positional
45:40
players as well. And I think Kinkaid is interesting in this stack that still
45:45
leaves you a fair share of money. Any quick thoughts on defense and guys,
45:49
you can start throwing your scores for the game tonight. So for Buffalo
45:54
and the Chargers, we're gonna run the sim segment. We're gonna go through
45:58
some showdown stuff, stret throwing your scores into the chat for the game tonight.
46:02
On what you think is gonna happen in that Buffalo Chargers game. Who
46:05
defense is anything here? Yeah? I mean no strong opinion on the defenses.
46:10
I mean I'm gonna play the Bills, I'm gonna play the Steelers,
46:14
I'm gonna play the Bengals, and just whatever I get of them I kind
46:20
of get obviously, I think that the Bills are the best defense. It's
46:23
not hard to get to them at thirty five hundred, but you know,
46:28
probably try to avoid the charges a little bit. But man, it's a
46:30
high variance position. Anything can freaking happen. You're not even getting a huge
46:35
discount on the Chargers either, which is interesting. They're twenty seven hundred.
46:38
The Steelers are just three hundred dollars more so, no strong opinion at defense,
46:45
and real quick because we got time, I mean we got We'll be
46:46
on for the fifteen minutes at least, more like we always are. But
46:50
just a quick question Monday night, I want to get your quick take on
46:53
this. The Ravens five and a half point underdogs. Who do you got
46:58
in that game against the forty nine Ers? Man, it is crazy,
47:00
Like if the forty nine Ers are favored by five and a half right in
47:04
that game against who has bet probably the second best team overall this year.
47:07
I mean, it just goes to show like how highly Vegas thinks or the
47:14
public thinks of this forty nine Ers team, Like, man, that's a
47:17
big boy number. But two they are playing so good, Like I'm I'm
47:22
on the forty nine ers side, and it's up to six now as well.
47:28
No, no Homer. The people that know there's the Ravens. I'm
47:30
a huge Ravens fan. I got too a bad spot for him. I
47:35
got the Ravens winning when it doesn't matter as much when it's a preview and
47:38
not the actual thing or something like that. That's why I like the six.
47:42
If it wants to keep going, I don't think it will. But
47:45
someone asks us, I like Boyd if you're playing. I know it's season
47:47
long, but I'll just answered. But I do like Boyd today in the
47:51
spot that he's in over Guz Edwards. And I know that obviously the unfortunate
47:54
news of like Heaton Mitchell being out for the season now and the injury and
47:58
all that that happened, but I do think I do think Lamar people might
48:01
be forgetting Lamar versus NFC teams is definitely a thing. He shows out and
48:05
shows off, and that's what I'm hoping happens on Monday. But I do
48:07
like that. I think that regardless of some of the injury stuff, they're
48:10
gonna show up and their defense is just so good and this is the big
48:15
time deal because it's the quote unquote MVP battle between Lamar Jackson and Joe Montana
48:20
aka Brock Perdy. So we got to see how this thing shakes out.
48:22
But I think it's gonna be a really good game. I'm super excited for
48:25
Monday night. What a way to end Christmas Day for those celebrating Christmas out.
48:29
They're just an awesome thing with even if you're not just the Holidays in
48:31
general, family friends, things like that. It's gonna be a great way
48:35
for that day to end. One thing I want to say two quick things.
48:37
Who one was on the defenses. I'll start defense against quarterback awesome today,
48:44
perfect spots for it, really right, Like you could play the Bills
48:46
D against an Easton stick lineup. You could play the Chargers D against Alan
48:51
maybe he's the only guy he throws picks all the time. It's only four
48:52
quarterbacks to pick from that you can put the defenses against. There's definitely opportunity
48:57
there. Even if they get blown out, you could see that possibly be
48:59
a way that they do get in the box for one of their small scores
49:01
or something like that. So I don't hate defenses against quarterbacks. And then
49:06
real quick jumping back to it, who the chat had asked about two tight
49:09
end builds today and how popular you think those are going to be, and
49:13
if you're willing to use a bunch of them, what ones would stand out
49:15
for you? Yeah, good with good with two tight end builds today.
49:21
I mean it would be you know, I said, I like I like
49:24
Everett. I'd be fine pairing him with like anyone else. I'm fine with
49:28
with double tight end today. Two games plate like certainly like could two.
49:31
Basically you're saying, can two of these tight ends get at least ten fantasy
49:35
points? I think it's well within the realm of possibilities today. So good
49:38
with two tight end builds, no doubt about it. Yeah, Billy asked
49:42
a good question. Yeah, it does look like three running backs, man,
49:45
just because when you put Cook and Eckler then it's kind of just how
49:47
it will sort out. But there's lots of builds that you'll see on the
49:51
other side as well. So I don't have like a definitive for you.
49:53
I just think I think I'll be pretty spread. I think I'll be pretty
49:57
spread, just because you do have like the Tyler bull aids, the Joshua
50:00
Palmers at wide receiver. You have, you know, multiple three K title
50:05
I think it will be pretty pretty spread out. Yeah, point too is
50:08
I just don't care enough. I don't think it's gonna be like there's no
50:12
more important on main slates. They like that conversation is way more important on
50:15
like main slates opposed to these these smaller ones. Yeah, I agree.
50:20
I like our guy Nick here and the Ravens win by three plus. I
50:22
would love that. So gonna be a good game. Though. We'll flip
50:25
over too Showdown. I'll pull up the Sims segment at the end. Hoop,
50:29
you want to a quick run through on this, I mean, first
50:30
off, got to get your take on Josh Allen. This is some of
50:32
these are the slates where you just locked Josh Allen, but you brought up
50:36
for the two game earlier where there could be a slight concern. Does that?
50:39
Is that the same for you on this Showdown slate where you would be
50:43
willing to drop down, save the money and go to cook or a digs
50:45
or where are you at thinking of captains for the Showdown slate tonight? Yeah,
50:49
I mean it would just be just bills captains for me on the slate.
50:52
I mean Josh Allen, James Cook, Digs Uh, definitely, Gabe
50:58
Davis should be low loaned up top, like that would be my one.
51:00
Like really, you know, I guess sneaky, whatever you want to say,
51:05
that would be my one. He's only fifty eight hundred two, so
51:08
like you put him in the Captain, Gabe Davis, he's eighty seven hundred.
51:12
I think he just had the chance for a big game today, So
51:14
him it's gonna be consolidated for me, Alan Cook, Diggs, Gabe Davis.
51:20
That those are the four that I would would kind of focus on.
51:22
Just I'm not going to get to the Charger stuff, like you know,
51:25
I get it, they'll be much lower on but it's just like, no,
51:29
thanks, I'm not playing any Chargers up top. Big game, Gabe.
51:32
There's the there's the quick show course for me. I like this one,
51:36
Gabe, Alan and Flex you get Palmer on the other side seven point
51:40
four k, Like I love something like that. I'll prob to go to
51:45
Palmer and Eckler in the Captain. That might be it though, like on
51:51
that side, and I'll be much you know what, maybe I'll say if
51:53
I wasn't gonna go charger. Maybe some where's my boy Everett. I think
52:00
he's really cheap. He might be a third for me. But I will
52:05
say, much like my Josh Allen conversation, and also there's much less likelihood
52:10
that Alan gets these one yard tush push brotherly shoves either that. At seventeen
52:15
to one, when I see Diggs, I see Cook, I see you
52:20
know Gabe Davis, who we just talked about. I will play a couple
52:22
chargers. I'll have I'll be underweight at least on Alan in the captain tonight.
52:27
Obviously, James Cook looks really good. We'll see where his ownership comes
52:30
in, but he's quite a bit less at fifteen K. That twenty one
52:32
hundred goes a long way throughout the rest of your build where you could still
52:36
get James, get Josh Allen in, get Steffan Diggs, and then drop
52:38
down from there. So definitely think this this slate will be something to look
52:44
at. But let's let's go over here. Let's go to run the sims.
52:46
Let's do a couple scores for them out there tonight. What score do
52:50
you got first there hoop that we can pull up for people. Let's do
52:54
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ten thousand sims. See what they play by play shoot out like. In
56:47
this score total, the thirty five to seventeen bills, Josh Allen, who
56:52
they have in around fifty five percent owned in the flex and around thirty one
56:54
in the Captain for eighty six total, shows up less in the fleg but
57:00
much more almost fifty percent of the time in the captain ninety two percent of
57:05
lineups. Almost a pure lock button in this scenario. Who what's your thoughts?
57:07
I mean, that's obvious the thing to you, But what else?
57:10
What else do you got with this first run that we've done thirty five seventeen.
57:14
Yeah, so kind of kind of correlate this to our conversation with the
57:19
two games late right when we talked about it. So, any of these
57:22
bills kicking the chargers ass type lineups is going to want Allen number one and
57:28
then James Cook number two. Stephan Diggs is a little bit down here forty
57:32
five percent lineup. So I think we can correlate that as well to that
57:36
two Games slate where we talked about it. I think Diggs has a chance
57:38
to get squeezed a little bit for this exact reason, because this is how
57:42
the public's going to be thinking. Josh Allen won Cook two. Can I
57:45
do I have enough money to get to step on Diggs? H Yeah,
57:49
maybe not, so then I'll take Digs out. So, you know,
57:52
maybe Digs is the play on the two Games slate for the showdown slate.
57:55
You know, your boy Palmer showing up here as the charge guy they want,
58:00
which is you know, interesting, got Gabe Davis here? Yeah,
58:05
yeah, again the one thing that stands out to me Cook over Digs though,
58:09
Yeah, I like that. I think a couple other things to know,
58:12
like obviously East and Stick even in them putting up only seventeen. It's
58:15
a price thing, right, and the guy has the ball in his hands
58:17
the most, or probably does. We'll see what Eckler ends up doing.
58:20
It does not love Eckler. It's not like Eckler goes way off the board,
58:22
but they just don't like him in the Captain like him a lot less
58:25
in flex than he was three percent less over there as well, but like
58:29
a couple notes, for sure, easton Stick pops out. They have him
58:32
in the captain only three percent of the time is what they're thinking. I
58:36
think he could come in more than that. But let's say he's in there
58:37
three percent of time. They've got him in nine percent of the time in
58:40
the Captain, they've got him forty two percent in the flex, and then
58:45
the SIMS have him forty seven percent in the flex. So it definitely likes
58:50
east and Stick. Palmer not a popular captain, but still coming in almost
58:53
seven percent of the time even in that game script. And we've seen that
58:57
in some other games where guys like Courtland's pops in because it's again he's a
59:00
wide receiver one for that team, but it's a price play. It's the
59:05
same thing here with a Palmer, your Davis play pops up a little bit
59:07
more. The other thing just to note quickly is people see this, I
59:10
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People look at this hoop and say, oh, see, Cook's a bad
59:21
play. No, no, no, he's still showing up in sixty percent
59:23
of the lineups. It's just saying, based on them thinking he's super owned
59:28
at captain, they have him in the sims coming in slightly less. When
59:30
you run the sims, he doesn't pop up twenty four percent of the time.
59:34
That's where that negative captain leverage comes from. And in the flex they
59:37
see him about forty seven percent of the time. It drops down a couple
59:42
percent as well, but he's still showing up in plenty of lineups. So
59:45
something else there to keep in mind. Anybody else here got a score hoop
59:49
that you want to throw up there, we can do another one. Let's
59:52
do a score that we kind of talked about, which is a real possibility
59:54
where the Bills get a lead and just kind of grind it out. So
59:58
Bills win, the low scoring Bills win, like twenty seven fourteen or what
1:00:02
are we thinking, twenty four fourteen? Yeah, twenty four or fourteen,
1:00:07
something like that, they get the lead, maybe Chargers score like a you
1:00:09
know, garbage time touchdown at the end. It was twenty one to seven
1:00:14
the entire game, and then you know, they find a way to get
1:00:16
something at the end. Yeah, this would almost be similar to like what
1:00:21
you said, even if again, you can build your scripts this way when
1:00:22
you're doing it with your handbuilds and stuff too. But like to your point,
1:00:25
if you load something like this, it kind of even could be like
1:00:29
where they're up, like you said, like twenty one to seven, they
1:00:31
get up twenty four to seven and then there's a garbage time touchdown for the
1:00:35
chargers. Could could definitely see something like that happening. And Joanne left Gramma's
1:00:39
wheelchair alone, took grant us to play today. Help me out. I
1:00:43
get it's so funny, Like, I mean, this is like a complete
1:00:45
bullshit because I picked the guy last week you know that you know has one
1:00:50
of the options, and you say, oh, the wheelchair things so played
1:00:52
out, we're not doing that, blah blah blah. Now you've rushfersted it
1:00:54
twice on the show today. Yeah that not for winners though, not picking
1:01:00
Okay, Yeah, there's always that. Yeah, there's always always a caveat.
1:01:02
Yeah, a caveat. Okay, it makes sense now, right,
1:01:07
it's also the holiday season. I'm spreading the year trying to keep my guy
1:01:09
Hoop happy. You love that one. I'm like, i know he'll like
1:01:12
this. Let me just throw that the good little setup for the people.
1:01:15
It's good, good chemistry here, Hoop. So yeah, yeah, all
1:01:19
right, guys, this is the last one we're gonna run for you today.
1:01:22
So we ran it here. This is gonna be the twenty four to
1:01:23
fourteen We talked about how it could get there. Here's the setup of it.
1:01:28
Josh Allen still eighty seven and a half percent. Again, no surprise
1:01:31
to this one. After that, it does kind of level out a bit
1:01:34
more like, yes, James Cook's still sixty east and stick. It's very
1:01:37
similar. But what are you sit here with, Hoop, Because very similar
1:01:40
besides the Bill's d popping up a little bit more. I mean, the
1:01:44
Bill's d's up here a little bit. But it's truly, I mean,
1:01:47
it's very similar to what we just saw. Yeah, I mean could play
1:01:52
itself out that way. Obviously, if you guys are a member, you
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can go get your own custom lineups based off of this, and your own
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custom projections based off of this. We can set it up and New Ones
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is right with you. You guys are hand in hand coming at him.
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He had his horrible NBA takes yesterday. I had to let him know.
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So that's the fun of the community. If you are a member and you're
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in the discord, we're in there all the time. There's no like Q
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and A today at nine pm Eastern and you get to chat with us,
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or like the setup of oh he's still in here late at night. You
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can you believe we're We're just in there all the time, having a good
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time. So many like minded individuals, people that are just trying to get
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better at DFS, wanting to find good results, see some success over time,
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hopefully today with the slate at hand, But everybody sort of picks and
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choose their spots. You get it when you get it, So I don't
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see too much here different hoop. I guess Easton, Stick and Palmer continue
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to be the options that pop up. But Quintin Johnston just a note.
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We didn't talk a lot about him on the main two Gamer either. He's
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definitely a guy you could go to. He's a thousand less then let me
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just say this, he's a thousand less than Palmer on the main slate.
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But some of this stuff, if we go back over real quick to the
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two Gamer and then we'll get out of here, is like this type of
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setup. Right if you've got a Friar Moth and a Palmer. I think
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you've got a very popular build, but you can again, you'll need to
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find two hundred bucks, but you can go to a pay up for King
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Kid and do a pay down in a spot others aren't really doing it with
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a Quinton Johnston and that ends up being almost the same build. You gotta
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find two hundred bucks, but to be honest, on the two Gamer,
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you probably have hundreds to play with you You're not very often maxing out your
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fifty k salary. Even when you're handbuilding, you're landing in spots where it
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could be a thousand bucks left and you're trying to reset things up to find
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a different way to go around it. So just little things like that are
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what I'm always looking at. Pay up to pay down where most people will
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have Palmer and a Everett or a something like that. I think that you
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could see with a Hudson or a friar Moth. Just little things like that
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are where you can do it. So any final thoughts from you Hoop before
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we get out of here. Yeah, I'm the Quentin Johnson thing. I
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mean, yeah, totally fine play. I mean they take shots with the
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guy. I mean they look for him down the field, which is what
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you want. I mean, the problem is they just haven't connected at all,
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and it's you know, East and Stick throwing him the ball. But
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I would definitely want exposure to Quentin Johnson just to wrap up that conversation.
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Yeah. In terms of the two game slate, which we covered in the
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opening, it's a fun one five hundred thousand up top for the main event
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on on DraftKings, a lot of different ways to go. I think we
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Who are you on today? Where are the cores? We get our
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on the content and in the discord. Very excited for this late, Very
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excited for the showdown slate. If you have anything going on with the f
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