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- 0:23Speaker 1: Well, everybody, Yes, I know sometimes you know, the bus
- 0:27Speaker 1: just you know, doesn't want to move when it's supposed
- 0:30Speaker 1: to move. But we got it moving. So welcome everybody.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Let me turn myself off over there, because then we
- 0:38Speaker 1: truly are meeting ourselves coming and going. So welcome everybody.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in and turning on and being
- 0:47Speaker 1: part of the conversation. It's always better, you know, than one,
- 0:56Speaker 1: because that's that's really a drag. So we always, like
- 0:59Speaker 1: a dogbies say it's a party, and it is. It's
- 1:02Speaker 1: a party of coming together, celebrating. Before I introduce Writer,
- 1:08Speaker 1: I just want to say favor be to us all
- 1:10Speaker 1: in favor manifested to us all, and we'll talk more
- 1:15Speaker 1: about this. Nothing missing, nothing broken. Welcome everybody in the
- 1:19Speaker 1: chat room. Much love to you, and welcome to a
- 1:24Speaker 1: new timeline. Have you felt it? It's real, folks, it
- 1:30Speaker 1: happened again. You know there's something about this man. We're
- 1:34Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about it because you
- 1:36Speaker 1: and I we are living history, folks. What you and
- 1:43Speaker 1: I and Writer you as well, because we were talking
- 1:46Speaker 1: about this before we went live. We're living history. The
- 1:52Speaker 1: events that we have gone through will not happen again.
- 1:56Speaker 1: I dare say for a thousand or two thousand years.
- 1:59Speaker 1: This is how significant of a time in history that
- 2:03Speaker 1: we're living. And something connected to this guy. I don't
- 2:07Speaker 1: know what it is, but it seems like when he
- 2:10Speaker 1: steps into the picture, everything changes. And it's interesting because
- 2:18Speaker 1: I know many others that have said sinceed it yesterday,
- 2:23Speaker 1: as I told everyone with the ladies Trina and Jenny
- 2:28Speaker 1: that there was this, it was a supernatural calm that
- 2:32Speaker 1: was over me. It was so freaking surreal. And today
- 2:38Speaker 1: we are where we are, and we'll talk more about
- 2:41Speaker 1: it because folks, new timelines present new opportunities. So let
- 2:47Speaker 1: me quit talking and let me bring in my guest
- 2:52Speaker 1: and returning guests, good friend, brother and a Soul tribe member,
- 2:57Speaker 1: no doubt, mister rider Lee, how are you, sir?
- 3:02Speaker 2: I am amazing, I am happy, Wayne, and I think
- 3:05Speaker 2: we should just take a second and soak in this moment,
- 3:09Speaker 2: this very special moment that we have before us, unlike
- 3:14Speaker 2: anything that has ever happened ever, I don't think, and
- 3:20Speaker 2: it's so incredible, and like you were saying yesterday, I
- 3:27Speaker 2: was really calm too. And it's so interesting though, Wayne,
- 3:31Speaker 2: is they made it seem like that this was going
- 3:34Speaker 2: to take a really long time. They made it seem
- 3:36Speaker 2: like this was going to be like two to three weeks,
- 3:38Speaker 2: maybe even a month, and they were wrong. And I
- 3:41Speaker 2: think that that is a really big signifier of this
- 3:46Speaker 2: shift that you're talking about. And I really believe that
- 3:51Speaker 2: there's no other explanation for it other than it being
- 3:54Speaker 2: some kind of shift, whether that's a consciousness shift, whether
- 3:58Speaker 2: that's some kind of timeline shift. But I think that
- 4:03Speaker 2: this is the beginning of something really spectacular and something
- 4:07Speaker 2: unlike that we've ever seen before. And I'm really excited.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I couldn't be more excited. I'm the happiest that I've
- 4:14Speaker 2: been in a really long time. My documentary just came
- 4:17Speaker 2: out a day before the elect congratulations, and Trump is
- 4:21Speaker 2: the presidential elect, So I mean, I couldn't ask for
- 4:25Speaker 2: a better outcome with all this, Like you shouldn't worry
- 4:30Speaker 2: about all this stuff, like, and I had been worried
- 4:33Speaker 2: about it for a while. I thought that things were
- 4:35Speaker 2: I mean, we still have a couple more months before
- 4:37Speaker 2: he actually takes office, so there's this period in there
- 4:41Speaker 2: that a lot of things can happen. But I'm choosing
- 4:43Speaker 2: not to focus on that, because I really think that
- 4:45Speaker 2: we should just take this moment in and just relax
- 4:48Speaker 2: and take off our conspiracy hats with all this stuff
- 4:52Speaker 2: and just take them just breathe in the fresh air.
- 4:55Speaker 2: We don't get wins like I've never experienced a win
- 5:00Speaker 2: this in my lifetime. I don't know about about your lifetime.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Did you experience something like this in your lifetime?
- 5:05Speaker 1: Well, I would say that the closest thing that I experienced,
- 5:08Speaker 1: because I was a part of with the Republican Party
- 5:11Speaker 1: back then, was Reagan and the years with Jimmy Carter
- 5:17Speaker 1: were pretty tough. A lot of people don't remember that
- 5:20Speaker 1: interest rates were at twenty one twenty two percent. You
- 5:24Speaker 1: couldn't buy a home, you couldn't get a loan because
- 5:28Speaker 1: the interests, and so you had these kakumene get a
- 5:33Speaker 1: rounds where you had balloon notes, you know, you would
- 5:36Speaker 1: only pay the interest. But with Jimmy Carter, it was
- 5:41Speaker 1: it was, It was bad, but it wasn't like this.
- 5:45Speaker 1: This one and this is just me. This one had
- 5:51Speaker 1: a spiritual component to it still does. And when I
- 5:55Speaker 1: say spiritual, there were forces greater than the forces of
- 5:59Speaker 1: me at play, and we witness history the attempted first
- 6:06Speaker 1: assassination on Trump. We witnessed a miracle. Now this is
- 6:11Speaker 1: not religious, This is not elevating one religion or another.
- 6:16Speaker 1: We as a species witnessed a miracle. And that's all
- 6:21Speaker 1: you can say it. And may, if I may say,
- 6:28Speaker 1: that's probably when the real timeline jump happened. Because if
- 6:32Speaker 1: you think that micro second, just a little bit of
- 6:36Speaker 1: turning the head, we'd be talking something completely different today.
- 6:40Speaker 2: It would be a completely different reality. And I gotta
- 6:44Speaker 2: say that would have been a great plan for them
- 6:48Speaker 2: to have that happen and take him out like that
- 6:50Speaker 2: and publicly like that. That would have been a great plan.
- 6:54Speaker 2: But he he diverted it, and he diverted it twice.
- 6:58Speaker 1: What I here inside the inner circle, they know of
- 7:03Speaker 1: two other attempts that were foiled. I mean, they were
- 7:07Speaker 1: after this guy, whoever they are, but I don't know,
- 7:12Speaker 1: and I am a I really like Joe Rogan. But
- 7:16Speaker 1: there was something that Mark Zuckerberg said, because I'm not
- 7:19Speaker 1: a fan of Zuckerberg, but when he said, I've never
- 7:24Speaker 1: seen anything like this that this guy is almost his
- 7:28Speaker 1: brains are splattered everywhere. And what does he do? He
- 7:32Speaker 1: does the exact opposite. He stands up and the first
- 7:35Speaker 1: words out of his mouth, and we probably have heard
- 7:39Speaker 1: the story, Trumps tells it better. He said, he knew exactly,
- 7:43Speaker 1: and this is what gets me the hair in the
- 7:44Speaker 1: back of my neck rising. He said, I knew I
- 7:48Speaker 1: was about to write history. Now. That's what I admire
- 7:54Speaker 1: about the Samaran Empire. They understood their place in history.
- 7:59Speaker 1: We don't. But what what we have lived through in
- 8:04Speaker 1: this time will be written about for the next two three,
- 8:08Speaker 1: four thousand years if we survive.
- 8:13Speaker 2: I agree with that, and.
- 8:15Speaker 1: And then we all know what he said, fight fight, fight,
- 8:17Speaker 1: and wow.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an iconic moment. And it was at
- 8:23Speaker 2: that point too that I had this feeling that there
- 8:26Speaker 2: is no way that he could lose. There's no way
- 8:29Speaker 2: that they could they could steal this without bringing the
- 8:32Speaker 2: entire country to its knees.
- 8:35Speaker 1: Bonnie, I have to disagree with you, sister. He the
- 8:39Speaker 1: man was shot, you know, but everyone has their own
- 8:42Speaker 1: point of view.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Absolutely, he was definitely shot. There's no way that you
- 8:45Speaker 2: can fake a bullet grazing the ear. You can't stage
- 8:50Speaker 2: a bullet grazing the ear.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Most people don't understand what.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Hit hits someone's ear. You either hit the target or
- 8:59Speaker 2: you don't hit at the target. It's impossible to hit
- 9:02Speaker 2: someone's ear, like you just can't do it. You can't
- 9:08Speaker 2: what's it called intentionally, You can't intentionally hit someone's ear.
- 9:11Speaker 2: It's impossible.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Absolutely. There was another I don't know if it was
- 9:16Speaker 1: a podcast or another program, but and I loved what
- 9:23Speaker 1: the guy's take was. He says, you know, he says,
- 9:26Speaker 1: we think about beings that can manipulate time, and he said,
- 9:31Speaker 1: this would be a case where you would have a
- 9:34Speaker 1: higher intelligence, a technology that's looking at this thing in
- 9:38Speaker 1: this big, grandiose layout. But he said, imagine moving time
- 9:44Speaker 1: where you slow tying down to such a point that
- 9:49Speaker 1: all it takes is an unseen spirit to move that
- 9:52Speaker 1: head just enough and allowing the laws of physics to
- 9:56Speaker 1: take place as well, so you're not violating a law.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Trump was an innocent victim in this case. He's going
- 10:03Speaker 1: to fulfill destiny. No matter what your opinion is. The
- 10:06Speaker 1: man I've met, the man a nice guy, he really is,
- 10:10Speaker 1: you know. But anyway, he concluded that he said, he said,
- 10:15Speaker 1: if you believe in extraterrestrials, he said, there is a
- 10:18Speaker 1: good opportunity, right there when they actually intervened in the
- 10:22Speaker 1: affairs of man, not angels, not God, not any of this,
- 10:26Speaker 1: but other higher specie beings.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Yeah, we're living in a really incredible time right now.
- 10:35Speaker 2: And I told you this privately, and I told you
- 10:40Speaker 2: before the show too, and every time I talk about it,
- 10:43Speaker 2: I kind of tear up some in the train.
- 10:44Speaker 1: And Nina, you're wrong on that there is a scar.
- 10:47Speaker 1: You know, this is what I don't understand about. In
- 10:50Speaker 1: one aspect, there is such this this psychological thing with
- 10:55Speaker 1: people where Trump is concerned, and so it's so tribe.
- 10:59Speaker 1: I'm just gonna talk to you straight. You know, you
- 11:01Speaker 1: can believe what you want. The man has a scar
- 11:04Speaker 1: on his ear, and you know, I don't understand that
- 11:10Speaker 1: that that that is conspiracy. There was nothing of that. Uh.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And if you know anything about the body, the ear.
- 11:18Speaker 2: The ear has those of the fast.
- 11:20Speaker 1: But yeah, and and you know, yeah, anyway, anyway, yeah, the.
- 11:25Speaker 2: Ear heels the fastest. And if you don't think that
- 11:27Speaker 2: Trump has like some of the best surgeons and people
- 11:31Speaker 2: that can fix them up really quickly. I mean he
- 11:33Speaker 2: showed it the Joe Rogan on Joe Rogan's.
- 11:37Speaker 1: Watch, The Joe Rogan show. See right there.
- 11:40Speaker 2: He said, do you have a scar on your ear?
- 11:42Speaker 2: And Trump was like yeah, and he pulled out his
- 11:44Speaker 2: ear and he was like, there's the scar. And Rogan said, yeah,
- 11:47Speaker 2: that's a little tiny scar. And they talked about how
- 11:50Speaker 2: quick the ear heels.
- 11:51Speaker 1: So do y'all understand, Nina, what a two to two
- 11:53Speaker 1: three is? Do you understand the ballistics and the how
- 11:58Speaker 1: a two two three operates, what happens when it's fired.
- 12:01Speaker 1: It's not a seven five six, it's not a three
- 12:04Speaker 1: to eight, a two two three, So step up from
- 12:06Speaker 1: the twenty two and if you understand the dynamics of
- 12:10Speaker 1: how that could happen, you wouldn't have that thought. You say,
- 12:16Speaker 1: whether there was no blood on his ear when he
- 12:18Speaker 1: stood up, Folks, the damn bullet was going four thousand
- 12:23Speaker 1: feet per second. It has a carterization effect when it
- 12:28Speaker 1: hits something as the ear, so all it takes is
- 12:37Speaker 1: something for a moment, and those blood vessels and they're
- 12:42Speaker 1: going to start exploding and then you're going to see
- 12:46Speaker 1: the blood anyway.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Yeah, it's wild, and I've seen that with the with
- 12:53Speaker 2: the community too. I was like, what are they talking about? Like,
- 12:56Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that that they were seeing that this
- 13:00Speaker 2: thing was fake and stage, and I was like, what
- 13:02Speaker 2: are they even I don't I don't understand what these
- 13:05Speaker 2: people want. I don't understand what they're trying to achieve.
- 13:09Speaker 2: I mean, this man has done, he's been attacked, he's
- 13:12Speaker 2: been sued, he's been threatened to be put in prison.
- 13:15Speaker 2: What should That's another thing that could you know, possibly
- 13:20Speaker 2: have some ramifications later on in the month, because he's
- 13:23Speaker 2: he's supposed to be sentenced I think on November twenty
- 13:26Speaker 2: seventh or some time at the year.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Well breaking out MSNBC on the Morning Joe, So I
- 13:33Speaker 1: know something's up because they said, wonder if Biden will
- 13:39Speaker 1: pardon Trump? I mean, everything else is turned upside down
- 13:45Speaker 1: in this whole scenario. I mean, why not. I mean,
- 13:50Speaker 1: you know, it's a real possibility.
- 13:56Speaker 2: It is a real possibility. I mean, we got Justin
- 13:59Speaker 2: Trudeau up in Canada now saying that he's looking forward
- 14:02Speaker 2: to speaking with Trump and working with the Trump administration,
- 14:05Speaker 2: which I never thought was. I never thought that I
- 14:09Speaker 2: would ever see that. So, I mean this kind of
- 14:12Speaker 2: everything and everything that I thought was going to happen
- 14:15Speaker 2: didn't happen. So it's like you know, the only explanation
- 14:19Speaker 2: for that is like some kind of weird type of shift.
- 14:25Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't think that it was going to
- 14:27Speaker 2: take one day. I didn't think we were going to
- 14:28Speaker 2: know the results so soon it happened. I didn't think
- 14:30Speaker 2: that he was going to take all these swing states,
- 14:33Speaker 2: which is going to probably turn out that he's going
- 14:35Speaker 2: to take a majority of the swing states. But once
- 14:37Speaker 2: he grabbed Pennsylvania, I knew that it was over. Whoever
- 14:40Speaker 2: has Pennsylvania pretty much wins the election, and there's really
- 14:44Speaker 2: nothing that they can do because the republic kings are
- 14:47Speaker 2: going to hold the House, the Senate, and they have
- 14:51Speaker 2: the Supreme Court backed with Republican Supreme Court nominees, so
- 14:57Speaker 2: it's like there's really nothing that they're going to be
- 15:00Speaker 2: able to do politically. So their only course of action,
- 15:04Speaker 2: which I thought was really interesting because I've never seen
- 15:07Speaker 2: a presidential election in my lifetime since I've been alive
- 15:13Speaker 2: where the other candidate doesn't speak on the night of
- 15:18Speaker 2: the election, and Kamala did not speak. She left. She
- 15:22Speaker 2: left it like ten pm my time, which was well, no,
- 15:26Speaker 2: it was actually earlier than I was, like nine pm.
- 15:28Speaker 2: So it had been like many.
- 15:29Speaker 1: Apparently she had according to people that have said this
- 15:35Speaker 1: to the press, she apparently had a meltdown. They said
- 15:39Speaker 1: equivalent to almost a nervous breakdown, and that she was
- 15:44Speaker 1: in no mental capacity. And you know, so what happens.
- 15:50Speaker 1: Just to remind everybody how this process, because there have
- 15:53Speaker 1: been those who said, well, maybe a week or so
- 15:55Speaker 1: they start changing election effects. Now, once Kamala Harris can
- 16:00Speaker 1: seeds the race, it doesn't matter. She has conceded and
- 16:05Speaker 1: at that point, legally all you know, she's out and
- 16:09Speaker 1: the results stand.
- 16:11Speaker 2: That's the thing is, like, I don't know, she should
- 16:14Speaker 2: have conceded last night. She should should have she should
- 16:16Speaker 2: have conceded. She should have hung it up. Because even
- 16:19Speaker 2: if she doesn't concede, I don't think that it's really
- 16:21Speaker 2: going to matter that much of a difference because Trump
- 16:25Speaker 2: has won by such a great margin that it doesn't
- 16:27Speaker 2: matter if she doesn't concede or not. They're not going
- 16:29Speaker 2: to be able to do a recounter or or anything
- 16:34Speaker 2: like that. It's not going to be like Bush and
- 16:37Speaker 2: what was the other guy, al Gore. It's not going
- 16:41Speaker 2: to be like al Gore and Bush, where it goes
- 16:43Speaker 2: on for a couple of months, and there's all this.
- 16:45Speaker 1: And people don't remember. Yeah, it went right up to
- 16:48Speaker 1: January twelve with Gore and bush yep and the Supreme
- 16:53Speaker 1: Court made that decision some historians, but that one.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Was really close though this one is not even close.
- 17:00Speaker 1: No, no Eve.
- 17:02Speaker 2: Ran away with it. So even if she doesn't concede
- 17:05Speaker 2: and they do some kind of they're not going to
- 17:07Speaker 2: be able to recount it because there's not going to
- 17:09Speaker 2: be a reason to recount it because he's won by
- 17:12Speaker 2: such a large margin. So she needs to concede. She
- 17:15Speaker 2: needed to concede last night, but she was she always
- 17:18Speaker 2: to come out and speak this morning. I don't think
- 17:20Speaker 2: that she's come out and speak, spoke to you.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Has not. I think what I'm reading now is that
- 17:24Speaker 1: she's going to address the nation at six pm I
- 17:29Speaker 1: think Eastern times, so tonight.
- 17:31Speaker 2: She's waiting all the way until tonight.
- 17:34Speaker 1: So it's not over. I mean, indeed, you know, it's
- 17:37Speaker 1: a it's interesting and you know, and there's so much
- 17:41Speaker 1: at play here because this is our lives. I mean,
- 17:44Speaker 1: people don't understand policy, and this is what we're talking about.
- 17:47Speaker 1: We're talking about the deregulations. You know that you can
- 17:51Speaker 1: actually keep your natural gas stove. You can actually have
- 17:55Speaker 1: an air conditioner, because under the current administration, with their
- 17:59Speaker 1: Green Deal in five years, it was going to be
- 18:03Speaker 1: almost next to impossible for Americans to a number one
- 18:07Speaker 1: and Ford air conditioning if you had to get a
- 18:09Speaker 1: unit and two being able to get the EP or
- 18:13Speaker 1: what they call the products that they're there, they're allowing
- 18:18Speaker 1: to actually allow yourself to have refrigerant air.
- 18:22Speaker 2: So listen, there was something that Kamala wanted to do
- 18:26Speaker 2: where I forget what it was called, but I read
- 18:28Speaker 2: about it the other day where she wanted to tax
- 18:32Speaker 2: people that have that just hold stocks.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. It was the unrealized capital gains.
- 18:40Speaker 2: That's it, unrealized capital gains. That is unbelievable, That is
- 18:44Speaker 2: unreal I couldn't believe that that would even be apollotic,
- 18:46Speaker 2: Like what are these people are? They like rookies and
- 18:48Speaker 2: like amateurs. I don't understand like that having stocks and
- 18:53Speaker 2: investing in companies is what keeps the economy going and
- 18:55Speaker 2: leaving it in there is what keeps the economy going
- 18:58Speaker 2: because you have your money in side of the stock
- 19:01Speaker 2: and if you're being taxed on that the only taxable
- 19:05Speaker 2: event that should ever happen is whenever you cash out
- 19:07Speaker 2: your stocks and you get money for that. But that's
- 19:10Speaker 2: how a lot of people hold their wealth. They hold
- 19:12Speaker 2: their wealth inside of stock.
- 19:13Speaker 1: We do it the same way. I mean, my portfolio
- 19:16Speaker 1: is up very nicely, and overnight it really got a
- 19:19Speaker 1: hit up nicely. And for my wife and I were
- 19:24Speaker 1: it was a serious concern because who the hell makes
- 19:28Speaker 1: the determination on a specific day if you don't know
- 19:33Speaker 1: what the day is, but that day is where they're
- 19:36Speaker 1: going to determine the unrecognized capital gains that you currently hold.
- 19:41Speaker 1: And there was no provision as to well what happened
- 19:44Speaker 1: if you took a capital gain's loss. And people don't
- 19:48Speaker 1: understand that it's a big, big, big deal.
- 19:53Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's what that one blew my mind.
- 19:57Speaker 2: I was like, what do you mean? And for people
- 19:59Speaker 2: that don't understand how the stock market works, are never
- 20:02Speaker 2: invested in that, they probably wouldn't think that that's a
- 20:04Speaker 2: big deal. But that's a really big deal, like.
- 20:06Speaker 1: A huge big deal.
- 20:07Speaker 2: That means that everything that you have involved in any
- 20:10Speaker 2: kind of stock market or any company that you're invested in,
- 20:12Speaker 2: it is going to be taxed regardless if you have
- 20:15Speaker 2: access to that money or not.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Well, I'm very active in the angel investment in investment industry,
- 20:28Speaker 1: and you know, you're looking at startups, looking at new ideas,
- 20:31Speaker 1: et cetera. But with the venture capital markets, if that
- 20:36Speaker 1: had happened, it would have shut down all new innovation
- 20:41Speaker 1: startups would not be able to get funding. Companies that
- 20:45Speaker 1: are needing mezzanine financing would not be able to find
- 20:49Speaker 1: it because this venture capital and it's you know, people
- 20:54Speaker 1: don't know how it works, but they were going to
- 20:58Speaker 1: shut down the funds. I mean, investors are going, what
- 21:02Speaker 1: the hell? I mean, you know, if I have twenty losers,
- 21:06Speaker 1: but I have one hit, well that hit could be
- 21:09Speaker 1: as much as you know, ten thousand X. You don't
- 21:14Speaker 1: realize the funds at that moment, but you're going to
- 21:16Speaker 1: be text on that.
- 21:18Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was an unreal Spare me a dime, brother,
- 21:26Speaker 3: just to say, you know, I like this because this
- 21:27Speaker 3: is you know, it's a little off the path that
- 21:32Speaker 3: we typically hear, but these are things that and I see.
- 21:38Speaker 1: A correlation here. We're expanded knowledge and the opportunities of
- 21:44Speaker 1: new innovation, new products, new theories, new ideas. You have
- 21:49Speaker 1: to have this this environment and you and I were
- 21:53Speaker 1: talking about this, and one of the things that Trump
- 21:55Speaker 1: has said now, he said, it's I think in its
- 21:59Speaker 1: acceptance speech. Right. He stayed up and I did not.
- 22:02Speaker 2: I stayed up and watched it until the last ten minutes,
- 22:06Speaker 2: and I thought that it was going to go on
- 22:08Speaker 2: for a really long time because they decided not to.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Trump said that he didn't want any teleprompters, so he
- 22:13Speaker 2: wasn't reading off of any teleprompters out there. He just
- 22:15Speaker 2: went out there and free balled it. And I was like, Okay,
- 22:18Speaker 2: this is probably gonna last for like a couple of hours,
- 22:20Speaker 2: like the RNC speech that he did. Like, I went
- 22:23Speaker 2: and took a shower. I watched for an hour that
- 22:26Speaker 2: the RNC, and then I went took a shower, and
- 22:29Speaker 2: then came back. He was still talking, and I went
- 22:32Speaker 2: and used the bathroom, made dinner, cooked dinner, ate dinner,
- 22:34Speaker 2: and he was still talking. So I thought that it
- 22:37Speaker 2: was going to go on for a really long time.
- 22:41Speaker 2: So I went and did some other things around the house,
- 22:45Speaker 2: and then I came back and then I was like, oh, well,
- 22:47Speaker 2: it's over already. He was only up there for.
- 22:49Speaker 1: Maybe twenty eight minutes.
- 22:51Speaker 2: I heard yeah, not very long. Yeah, and yeah, it
- 22:55Speaker 2: was a it was a really and you brought up
- 22:57Speaker 2: a few other people.
- 23:00Speaker 1: I think it's going to be exciting to see the
- 23:03Speaker 1: Silicon Valley crowd get involved, and that Robert Kennedy Junior,
- 23:10Speaker 1: he's going to be in the cabinet as well.
- 23:13Speaker 2: He had just I think that was a really big
- 23:15Speaker 2: curve ball for them because RFKA Junior, he had a
- 23:19Speaker 2: lot of support, a lot of support, and that was
- 23:23Speaker 2: a really big curve ball that was thrown in their
- 23:25Speaker 2: direction because RFK had said because I followed his campaign
- 23:30Speaker 2: since the.
- 23:32Speaker 1: He's still a Democrat, Yeah, yeah.
- 23:35Speaker 2: And I followed it since the beginning, since he announced
- 23:38Speaker 2: that he was going to be running for president, and
- 23:40Speaker 2: then Biden administration completely shut him out of the Democratic
- 23:43Speaker 2: Party and made him go independent. And I still followed
- 23:45Speaker 2: him because I liked everything that he's been talking about,
- 23:48Speaker 2: you know, the health crisis that we have, the obesity crisis,
- 23:51Speaker 2: the addiction crisis, in the things that he wants to
- 23:55Speaker 2: clean up, and he's done a lot of fantastic environmental work.
- 23:59Speaker 2: He cleaned up a lot of rivers in the United
- 24:02Speaker 2: States and sued months.
- 24:03Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical companies or they.
- 24:06Speaker 2: Are and so I followed him a lot, and he
- 24:11Speaker 2: he had said several times that he would never team
- 24:14Speaker 2: up with Trump, and I was like, okay, well that
- 24:16Speaker 2: just kind of squashes that whole thing there, because I
- 24:21Speaker 2: was hoping that he Trump was actually going to pick
- 24:23Speaker 2: him for VP. But at that time, Kennedy was still
- 24:27Speaker 2: on his you know, campaign to be running for president
- 24:30Speaker 2: as an independent. And then the tides turned and then
- 24:34Speaker 2: he joined in with Trump, and I was like, man,
- 24:36Speaker 2: this is a freaking curveball that they were not expecting.
- 24:41Speaker 2: I don't think that they expected that because RFK had
- 24:43Speaker 2: said several times that, you know, his wife would would
- 24:49Speaker 2: he was joking, of course, he said his wife would
- 24:51Speaker 2: kill him if he if he joined the Trump administration.
- 24:54Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, well, if he's saying that,
- 24:56Speaker 2: then it's probably not a possibility. But it happened, and
- 25:02Speaker 2: I really don't miracle.
- 25:03Speaker 1: It's a miracle. I'm telling you.
- 25:04Speaker 2: You had so much support from not only the left,
- 25:08Speaker 2: but the independent voters, the undecided voters. They they were
- 25:12Speaker 2: you know, they wanted something different, and then you joined
- 25:14Speaker 2: up with Trump. And it's I think that that move
- 25:18Speaker 2: right there, in the combination of him, you know, being
- 25:23Speaker 2: shot at in an attempted assassination just threw him over
- 25:28Speaker 2: the edge.
- 25:28Speaker 1: You know, I'm an independent, and you know I've known Democrats,
- 25:33Speaker 1: you know, Congress and Senators and Republicans. But the interesting
- 25:38Speaker 1: thing that I think where Kamala was concerned, this desperation
- 25:43Speaker 1: and that which began to tell me something was really
- 25:45Speaker 1: up here when they went so far to the extreme
- 25:49Speaker 1: in the vitriol, name calling, you know, character assassination, going
- 25:55Speaker 1: to the extreme of you know, invoking you know, Nazis
- 26:00Speaker 1: and Hitler and you know, as I'm on the record
- 26:05Speaker 1: of saying, if you're if you're before an investor conference,
- 26:10Speaker 1: you might as well just give up. If you're going
- 26:13Speaker 1: to go out on stage and present yourself and all
- 26:16Speaker 1: you're going to do is tear your competitors down and
- 26:19Speaker 1: never mention what your product really is, You're not getting
- 26:23Speaker 1: that's fun.
- 26:24Speaker 2: That's all Kamala did the entire PA That's all.
- 26:26Speaker 1: That's all she did. Yeah, And it was just and
- 26:29Speaker 1: it was a bonehead move. I mean, and I think
- 26:32Speaker 1: her not getting on Joe Rogan was a bonehead move again.
- 26:37Speaker 2: I mean, she wouldn't have been able to handle that,
- 26:39Speaker 2: She wouldn't have been able to handle a three hour restrution. No,
- 26:42Speaker 2: with Joe Rogan, she would literally melt to the ground.
- 26:45Speaker 2: I mean she can barely say anything without reading off
- 26:47Speaker 2: of a tele prompter or reading what she's supposed to say.
- 26:50Speaker 2: And that's like the whole wild thing. That's that's what
- 26:53Speaker 2: happened at that the most recent rally that she had,
- 26:55Speaker 2: where like Cardi b was up there and yeah, Artib's
- 27:00Speaker 2: teleprompter screwed up and she just stood there for a minute.
- 27:05Speaker 2: She didn't see anything because she couldn't see anything because
- 27:07Speaker 2: she couldn't read it.
- 27:09Speaker 1: Well, doesn't that kind of go into like the whole
- 27:12Speaker 1: When I saw that moment, I thought of your movie MK,
- 27:15Speaker 1: you know MK Ultra. I mean, that is what the
- 27:19Speaker 1: movie is about. And I think we saw so much
- 27:21Speaker 1: on display in this election cycle that why don't we
- 27:25Speaker 1: And it's a nice way segue, by the way, everyone
- 27:28Speaker 1: in the chat room, I still love you. You can have
- 27:31Speaker 1: a different idea, It's all right.
- 27:33Speaker 2: Just because we have different ideas and different thoughts we're
- 27:36Speaker 2: talking about different things doesn't mean that we don't like
- 27:38Speaker 2: you or that we hate you.
- 27:39Speaker 1: That's just simulate good conversation.
- 27:42Speaker 2: We need to have discourse again, like we need to
- 27:45Speaker 2: have a good debate again, we need to have we
- 27:48Speaker 2: do And that's what's been lacking from this and in
- 27:52Speaker 2: this whole age of social media has turned healthy debate
- 27:56Speaker 2: and disagreements into like attacks and yeah, character assassinations.
- 28:01Speaker 1: And they still teach debate in schools. In high school. Yeah,
- 28:06Speaker 1: you know, I was on the debate club. I loved
- 28:08Speaker 1: this too.
- 28:09Speaker 2: I did debate. I took debate, and I loved it
- 28:12Speaker 2: because it's it's supposed to be expanding. It's not supposed
- 28:15Speaker 2: to just get up there and like attack your opponent.
- 28:17Speaker 2: You're supposed to bring up points, counter counter arguments to
- 28:20Speaker 2: what your opponent is saying.
- 28:22Speaker 1: And I can say what I learned in school from debate,
- 28:27Speaker 1: in the principles of debate played a major role later
- 28:30Speaker 1: in life, particularly you know, you know, I was hired
- 28:34Speaker 1: as you know, I turned around companies and launched startups.
- 28:39Speaker 1: You have to have that ability when you have someone
- 28:42Speaker 1: criticizing you on a judging panel. You can't take that personally.
- 28:48Speaker 1: You have to be adapt enough mentally that you can
- 28:51Speaker 1: come back and immediately begin to counterpoint the point.
- 28:57Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was the thing is like Kamala didn't
- 28:59Speaker 2: have any counterpoint, Like all it was was attacking him
- 29:03Speaker 2: and saying how bad his policies were, while not saying
- 29:07Speaker 2: anything about her policies until the very last couple of
- 29:11Speaker 2: minutes when the debate was completely over, which had no
- 29:14Speaker 2: relevance at that point. It wasn't even the question that
- 29:17Speaker 2: was asked. And then she goes on about how it's
- 29:20Speaker 2: going to be, you know that she's going to give
- 29:23Speaker 2: some kind of tax break to new families and new
- 29:27Speaker 2: businesses and give them like a startup income. That's the
- 29:30Speaker 2: only thing that she said. The entire debate and the
- 29:33Speaker 2: rest of it was just tearing down how bad Trump's
- 29:36Speaker 2: policies were.
- 29:36Speaker 1: With all, I still don't know what her economic policy was,
- 29:39Speaker 1: I don't know what our national foreign policy was, I
- 29:42Speaker 1: didn't know what her domestic policy. And that's what I
- 29:45Speaker 1: was looking for, was something of subsistent me to saying,
- 29:48Speaker 1: all right, I know what Trump's going to do, and
- 29:51Speaker 1: he's and here's the thing, a reckoning is coming. You know,
- 29:55Speaker 1: he got His first administration was full of saboteurs. They
- 30:00Speaker 1: were those that were purposely in there to ensure that
- 30:05Speaker 1: whatever his agenda was was not going to be able
- 30:08Speaker 1: to move forward. I mean, two impeachments, all of this,
- 30:11Speaker 1: I believe this one's going to be a lot lot different.
- 30:15Speaker 1: And he said that in Joe Rogan's interview, he said,
- 30:18Speaker 1: I learned my lessons from the first one.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 30:22Speaker 1: Yeah. And getting back to Kamala, I wish her well
- 30:25Speaker 1: in life, wherever that may be. But I think it's
- 30:31Speaker 1: like Obama's told Joe Biden that you know, you couldn't
- 30:34Speaker 1: see it because the mic was you know, they were
- 30:36Speaker 1: up on stage and some person who can read lips
- 30:42Speaker 1: she said exactly what the discussion was. And Obama told
- 30:47Speaker 1: Joe Biden, he said, she doesn't have it what it takes.
- 30:51Speaker 1: And here's my problem with with Kamala Harris. She never
- 30:55Speaker 1: earned it. It was a coup and it'll go down
- 30:59Speaker 1: in his as she was the one, whether she did
- 31:02Speaker 1: it herself or she's just merely the puppet and Americans.
- 31:07Speaker 1: I think that's what what I'm reading now with many
- 31:10Speaker 1: Democrats that they felt that she basically nullified their vote,
- 31:15Speaker 1: disenfranchised them, and so she never paid a price for
- 31:20Speaker 1: the nomination. It was just she just took it. And
- 31:25Speaker 1: whereas with Trump, he had to work his ass off
- 31:29Speaker 1: in being able to get into the message.
- 31:33Speaker 2: And you know, now, that's another thing is that the
- 31:36Speaker 2: Democrats screwed up on is that they didn't have a bench.
- 31:39Speaker 2: They didn't have a bench of people to know that
- 31:41Speaker 2: could come up. They have him propped anybody up there.
- 31:44Speaker 2: There's literally nobody else on the Democrats side. They couldn't
- 31:48Speaker 2: even find anybody but an old man with dementia to
- 31:50Speaker 2: run against Trump in twenty twenty.
- 31:52Speaker 1: And she never had one person, one senator, one congress person.
- 31:56Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was on her, you know,
- 31:59Speaker 1: stumping for.
- 32:00Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that that's the first time. There's been
- 32:02Speaker 2: a lot of first with this this election and the
- 32:05Speaker 2: process that's led up to this election, but I'm pretty
- 32:08Speaker 2: sure it's the first time in American history that someone
- 32:11Speaker 2: has gotten the nomination, the Democratic nomination, without a.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Vote, with one single vote. And I hope Trump is right.
- 32:19Speaker 1: I hope that he is prophetic in his proclamation that
- 32:23Speaker 1: he is ushering in a golden age.
- 32:27Speaker 2: He said done last night and at the speech that
- 32:31Speaker 2: he when he came out and accepted the win, he
- 32:34Speaker 2: said that we're going to be that this is going
- 32:37Speaker 2: to be a golden age that he's going to bring
- 32:39Speaker 2: about a golden age for the United States.
- 32:42Speaker 1: I think for the rest of the world. It's quite remarkable.
- 32:46Speaker 1: The world leaders that they didn't waste no time. I mean,
- 32:50Speaker 1: as soon as it hit the wires and it had
- 32:52Speaker 1: been called, you know by all the other news agencies
- 32:55Speaker 1: and everyone with the official votes coming in that you know,
- 33:00Speaker 1: the list of phone calls, it was like, oh, thank God,
- 33:03Speaker 1: whatever God that may be. I mean, Neat and Yahoo said,
- 33:06Speaker 1: you know, quite remarkable. He said, it's a miracle. He said,
- 33:09Speaker 1: it's the comeback of all the ages.
- 33:12Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. And I was saying,
- 33:17Speaker 2: if we could.
- 33:17Speaker 1: Step back from the precipice of World War three, if
- 33:20Speaker 1: we can end the Ukraine nonsense and stop the slaughter
- 33:25Speaker 1: of human beings in a needless conflict and back this
- 33:32Speaker 1: down in the Middle East, yeah, I'll take that.
- 33:37Speaker 2: I think that we have averted. If things don't turn
- 33:42Speaker 2: out the way that some people think that it's going
- 33:45Speaker 2: to turn out with these next couple of months, and
- 33:46Speaker 2: something major doesn't happen, and everything runs smooth, and he
- 33:50Speaker 2: gets in the offices and the inauguration goes through really smooth,
- 33:55Speaker 2: I believe that we have averted civil war. We've averted
- 33:59Speaker 2: War War three. I think we've averted all of that stuff.
- 34:03Speaker 2: It's all going to be gone. And I don't understand
- 34:05Speaker 2: why people wouldn't want that. Why do they not want that?
- 34:11Speaker 2: It's like they want war. Starting to seem like they
- 34:14Speaker 2: want a civil war in a World War three.
- 34:17Speaker 1: It's like you haven't been able to eat in a
- 34:19Speaker 1: week and someone's offering you this beautiful buffet. You're gonna go. Nah,
- 34:24Speaker 1: I see that you've got cranberries. I don't like cranberries.
- 34:27Speaker 1: You know, I'd rather have war. You know, It's like, geez,
- 34:31Speaker 1: come on, folks.
- 34:32Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right now, you don't want that.
- 34:34Speaker 2: You don't want war. You don't want a civil war.
- 34:36Speaker 2: And it might look fun in the movies. It might
- 34:38Speaker 2: look fun in those disaster movies, you know, all the
- 34:41Speaker 2: everything being in chaos, and a lot of the apocalyptic
- 34:44Speaker 2: zombie type movies. It might look fun, but that's a
- 34:47Speaker 2: Hollywood version of it. You don't want it. It's going
- 34:49Speaker 2: to be bad. And I think that we should be
- 34:52Speaker 2: doing everything that we possibly can to avert war and
- 34:55Speaker 2: avert an uprising, and avert any kind of civil unrest,
- 35:00Speaker 2: and avert any kind of civil war. And I think
- 35:03Speaker 2: that that will happen if everything runs smooth in these
- 35:07Speaker 2: next couple of months up into the inauguration on January sixth.
- 35:11Speaker 2: And if that goes smooth, everything's good. They don't try
- 35:15Speaker 2: and take him out again, something doesn't happen, he doesn't
- 35:20Speaker 2: get put in prison. Then we are we're sitting really pretty,
- 35:25Speaker 2: sitting real pretty.
- 35:26Speaker 1: It's time for healing. I mean, the America needs to
- 35:29Speaker 1: be healed, I dare say the world. But this thing
- 35:33Speaker 1: tried to tear us apart. You know, husband against wife,
- 35:38Speaker 1: you know, you know, parents against children, friends against friends.
- 35:42Speaker 1: I mean it was getting to the point where, if
- 35:45Speaker 1: it continued in that direction, the ultimate end of that
- 35:49Speaker 1: would have been a self inflicted civil war. Well, August,
- 35:52Speaker 1: all civil wars are inflicted by self. But anyway this
- 35:56Speaker 1: one would have it would not need to have because
- 35:59Speaker 1: there was there was no platform, There was no point
- 36:02Speaker 1: in it. I mean, slavery was for the first one.
- 36:05Speaker 1: I don't know what this woel had been because you know,
- 36:07Speaker 1: I hate my neighbor because you know, they happened to
- 36:10Speaker 1: like Harris, and you know I happen to like Trump,
- 36:13Speaker 1: and so let's just you know, blow each other's homes up. Now, No, no,
- 36:16Speaker 1: that's crazy.
- 36:18Speaker 2: If it were to happened, it would have been an
- 36:21Speaker 2: uprising against the government, That's what it would have been about.
- 36:25Speaker 2: And it would have turned into some kind of civil
- 36:28Speaker 2: conflict with neighbor against neighbor. But the catalyst for getting
- 36:34Speaker 2: to that point would have been in Washington, d C.
- 36:38Speaker 2: And people.
- 36:38Speaker 1: I went into the store this morning, and I can
- 36:42Speaker 1: tell you there was we were talking about different timelines.
- 36:47Speaker 1: There was a calmness, I mean, and in many of
- 36:49Speaker 1: the people I saw a tiredness. You know. It was
- 36:52Speaker 1: like as I knew the cashier and talking to her,
- 36:56Speaker 1: and of course they can't speak politics against store policy,
- 36:59Speaker 1: but you know, you can communicate without having to say
- 37:02Speaker 1: the word. And I said, you know, I said, it's
- 37:05Speaker 1: a remarkable feeling of calmness. And she said yes, she said,
- 37:12Speaker 1: and doesn't it make you somewhat just tired? I said, well,
- 37:16Speaker 1: I think we're all going to sleep well tonight. Now
- 37:18Speaker 1: I know that there's another half that are in our
- 37:22Speaker 1: way in that they're they're devastated, they have been, you know, disappointed,
- 37:29Speaker 1: and we get that and it's going to be all right.
- 37:34Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, it's going to be
- 37:35Speaker 1: okay and just allow yourself to have a little bit
- 37:40Speaker 1: of leeway in your strong held beliefs and thoughts. Ideology
- 37:46Speaker 1: is fine, but if taken to the extreme, it becomes
- 37:49Speaker 1: a hindrance of being able to accept other people's thoughts
- 37:53Speaker 1: or ideas. You know, let's us, let's us take a
- 37:56Speaker 1: break America. Let's allow the process to have its way.
- 38:02Speaker 1: And both Democrat and Republicans said last night Obama and
- 38:07Speaker 1: Bush both made the point we saw American democracy and
- 38:12Speaker 1: action and it worked, and that's the most beautiful thing.
- 38:17Speaker 1: We are one of the few countries in the world
- 38:20Speaker 1: that where we have this process every four to eight years,
- 38:23Speaker 1: where there is a change in government, and we can
- 38:26Speaker 1: do it peacefully, we do it in a civilized manner
- 38:30Speaker 1: and order. And the next part of this process is
- 38:33Speaker 1: what December twelfth, I think that's when the Electoral College
- 38:38Speaker 1: comes together, certifies the vote, and then that then is
- 38:43Speaker 1: then taken to the Vice President head of the Senate,
- 38:48Speaker 1: in which then he will then bring it forth as
- 38:52Speaker 1: its final certification. So those are the next steps that happen.
- 38:56Speaker 1: And I believe if Kamala drops out and concedes the race.
- 39:00Speaker 2: So wild is Kamala is the vice president.
- 39:02Speaker 1: I know. Doesn't escape me on that one.
- 39:10Speaker 2: It's like, oh, that might be a little rough there.
- 39:15Speaker 2: That might be a little rough.
- 39:18Speaker 1: You couldn't have written the script better, though, could you?
- 39:20Speaker 2: Oh? My god?
- 39:22Speaker 1: Well, I hope she has the the integrity and the tenacity.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Is Mike Pinstead and you know, not doing Shenanigans. But anyway, Wow, wow,
- 39:37Speaker 1: interesting isn't it.
- 39:40Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 39:41Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the.
- 39:43Speaker 2: Little dicey uh, little dicey situation there. But I think
- 39:47Speaker 2: it all comes down to if she concedes today or not.
- 39:52Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and she has to she has.
- 39:54Speaker 2: To concede today. I mean there don't think there's anything.
- 39:56Speaker 1: She has to win three of the five and I
- 39:59Speaker 1: just don't see that happening, you know, I just don't. So, writer,
- 40:05Speaker 1: Let's talk about your movie, my friend. This is it's exciting.
- 40:10Speaker 1: It's the second one. The first was JFK. And I
- 40:16Speaker 1: was telling you that I've seen a lot of spinoffs
- 40:20Speaker 1: from that. I'm seeing other independent film you know, directors
- 40:25Speaker 1: and with different takes. And it seems like you opened
- 40:31Speaker 1: a door with that one, and then you followed it
- 40:33Speaker 1: up with your latest release, A Clockwork Shining, available in
- 40:40Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. I have left the links below. Considered that
- 40:46Speaker 1: go and check it out. It is on my viewing
- 40:48Speaker 1: this weekend, so I will be watching it. But talk
- 40:55Speaker 1: to us about it, tell us how it came about,
- 40:58Speaker 1: what is it about. And again I just want to
- 41:02Speaker 1: say congrats, way to go, buddy, thank you very much.
- 41:05Speaker 2: I'm very proud of it. I think that it's a
- 41:08Speaker 2: work of art, not only from an editing standpoint, but
- 41:11Speaker 2: a filmmaking standpoint. And how it came about was around
- 41:16Speaker 2: two years ago. I brought Jay Widner on my show
- 41:19Speaker 2: and he had he had done two movies before this
- 41:21Speaker 2: one which was a Kubrick's Odyssey one and a Kubri's
- 41:25Speaker 2: Odyssey two. I mean, he's been a filmmaker for a
- 41:27Speaker 2: really long time. He's produced a lot of other movies.
- 41:29Speaker 2: He worked at Gaya and did a lot of production
- 41:33Speaker 2: for them, and he's done a lot of production for
- 41:35Speaker 2: a bunch of movies before. But he had two movies
- 41:38Speaker 2: that would basically were analysis on Stanley Kubrick's work, which
- 41:44Speaker 2: was Kubric's Odyssey one and two. And I watched those
- 41:47Speaker 2: movies in order to bring him on my show to
- 41:49Speaker 2: you know, talk about the you know what I wanted
- 41:53Speaker 2: to talk about, so I can ask really deep interesting
- 41:56Speaker 2: questions into it. And uh, I'd watched Shining a couple
- 42:01Speaker 2: of times before that, and I gotta be honest, I
- 42:04Speaker 2: did not like the Shining. I thought that it was
- 42:06Speaker 2: a boring film. The first time that I seen it,
- 42:09Speaker 2: I was like, what is going on here? Why is
- 42:11Speaker 2: this like? So I didn't really understand it. And it
- 42:14Speaker 2: wasn't until I watched it several times after that that
- 42:17Speaker 2: it really clicked with me in what was going on?
- 42:19Speaker 2: And I automatically had a new theory. And that's what
- 42:23Speaker 2: A Clockwork Shining is about. It is about. It is
- 42:25Speaker 2: my theory. It is my analysis of the movie.
- 42:31Speaker 1: So what it.
- 42:33Speaker 2: All revolves around my analysis of it. And if anybody
- 42:35Speaker 2: else tells you that they've seen it before, I did
- 42:37Speaker 2: their line. I seen it. I didn't hear anybody else
- 42:41Speaker 2: ever talk about the things that I talked about in
- 42:43Speaker 2: the movie my analysis of it. I didn't hear. I
- 42:46Speaker 2: didn't watch somebody else someone else's analysis of it and
- 42:51Speaker 2: then copy their analysis of it. Though we do have
- 42:54Speaker 2: things that have been discussed before within A Clockwork Shining,
- 42:58Speaker 2: but that's just a a setup for what we're going
- 43:02Speaker 2: to be talking about, and we let people know where
- 43:04Speaker 2: a lot of those things that other people have found
- 43:06Speaker 2: throughout the movie came from. Now when I was watching it,
- 43:10Speaker 2: it it's really interesting when because in the first ten
- 43:14Speaker 2: minutes of The Shining gives away the entire plot of
- 43:19Speaker 2: the movie. It's one of the only movies that I've
- 43:21Speaker 2: listened to that within the dialogue of the movie give
- 43:28Speaker 2: away really what you're getting ready to see throughout the
- 43:31Speaker 2: rest of the movie. But it's given away in a
- 43:34Speaker 2: cryptic type of scenario between Almond and Jack, and Almond
- 43:39Speaker 2: looks a lot like JFK.
- 43:41Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it does.
- 43:43Speaker 2: He knows looks identical to JFK. And I think Kubrick
- 43:45Speaker 2: was doing that on purpose. But there's so many things
- 43:47Speaker 2: within The Shining that are presumed to be continuity errors,
- 43:55Speaker 2: you know, like and we've shown them all in the movie.
- 43:58Speaker 2: One of the first ones is sticker that's on Danny's door.
- 44:03Speaker 2: In one scene it's there, and then in the next
- 44:05Speaker 2: scene it's gone. There's a chair that's behind Jack when
- 44:09Speaker 2: Wendy comes in to speak with Jack in the main
- 44:13Speaker 2: entrance to the hotel where he's typing his is supposedly
- 44:17Speaker 2: his book, but we all know that he's not really
- 44:20Speaker 2: typing a book. There's a chair behind him, and then
- 44:24Speaker 2: it cuts to Wendy, and then it cuts back to
- 44:26Speaker 2: Jack and the chair is gone. There's light switches and
- 44:31Speaker 2: plugins in the movie that are there at one shot
- 44:34Speaker 2: and then later on in the movie they're not there.
- 44:36Speaker 2: Like when Jack walks into Almon's office, there's a like
- 44:41Speaker 2: plugins underneath one of the pictures, and then later on
- 44:45Speaker 2: when he goes in to destroy the radio to keep
- 44:47Speaker 2: Wendy and Danny from leaving the overlook, it's not there.
- 44:52Speaker 2: There's another one where.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Let's us stop on that, because that's interesting because set
- 44:56Speaker 1: design is crucial in any set up of a scene
- 45:00Speaker 1: that's going to be shot. There's a lot of thought
- 45:02Speaker 1: into it. In fact, if you read the scripts, they're
- 45:05Speaker 1: very detailed in what the set design is supposed to have.
- 45:09Speaker 1: So a professional film director deliberately removing that that's interesting
- 45:17Speaker 1: because it is suggests that it's either a number one,
- 45:22Speaker 1: you know, and watching the trailer, I thought it was
- 45:25Speaker 1: interesting that you see those things removed and the continuity.
- 45:30Speaker 1: Obviously someone would have caught that well.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Also, Stanley Kubrick is completely rewriting the entire script as
- 45:38Speaker 2: the movie's being shown, which is completely unheard of, like
- 45:42Speaker 2: no one ever does that. You just don't do that.
- 45:44Speaker 2: And our analysis within the movie is Qubrick basically was
- 45:49Speaker 2: given The Shining to pretty much make because his movie
- 45:53Speaker 2: before that, that was Barry Linden and Barry Linden, did not
- 45:55Speaker 2: go over well. It did not get make a lot
- 45:57Speaker 2: of money, it was not critically a c it was
- 46:00Speaker 2: pretty much a mess of a film. So Warner Brothers
- 46:03Speaker 2: essentially came to Cubrick and was like, here, here's this
- 46:06Speaker 2: book by Stephen King. We want you to make a
- 46:09Speaker 2: movie about this. And they'd already had a major success
- 46:12Speaker 2: with a horror novel being adapted into a movie with
- 46:16Speaker 2: William Freakin's The Extorcist, and they were like, okay, well,
- 46:20Speaker 2: let's get another big time film director to come in
- 46:23Speaker 2: and film the best selling book of Stephen King's The Shining.
- 46:29Speaker 2: So what we propose is that it's highly possible that
- 46:32Speaker 2: Stephen King wrote up a treatment to give to Warner.
- 46:38Speaker 1: Brothers of the movie Slay.
- 46:41Speaker 2: A screenplay, you know, like a script in the dialogue
- 46:44Speaker 2: and all that, and then for them to accept it
- 46:48Speaker 2: that was more along the lines of Stephen King's novel,
- 46:52Speaker 2: because there's Stephen King famously hated the movie The Shining
- 46:56Speaker 2: by Stanley.
- 46:59Speaker 1: That's for sure work.
- 47:00Speaker 2: And I think that what we propose in the movie
- 47:04Speaker 2: is that Qubic decided to completely change everything because he
- 47:10Speaker 2: wanted to make his own movie. He wanted to make
- 47:13Speaker 2: his own version of Stephen King's book The Shining in
- 47:18Speaker 2: movie form, and he knew that he couldn't do that
- 47:21Speaker 2: by handing in a script that was completely different than
- 47:25Speaker 2: Stanley than Stephen King's movie. So and then that way
- 47:30Speaker 2: he can also put things in the movie that are
- 47:34Speaker 2: very symbolic. There's a lot of very symbolic things. And honestly,
- 47:38Speaker 2: whenever I was watching it over and over and over again,
- 47:41Speaker 2: I was like, there's absolutely no way that I'm going
- 47:43Speaker 2: to find things in this movie that people have not
- 47:46Speaker 2: seen before. Like it's been ran into the ground. Like
- 47:49Speaker 2: there's so many theories and so many speculations, like Jay
- 47:52Speaker 2: Wiener's theory of that it's about the faking of the
- 47:55Speaker 2: moon landing. Stanley Kubrick faked the moon landing, which is
- 47:58Speaker 2: a very plausible theory because during that time Stanley Kubrick
- 48:02Speaker 2: was actually shooting two thousand and one a Space Odyssey,
- 48:04Speaker 2: so it's very it's highly likely that he had these
- 48:08Speaker 2: actors film an extra scene that was not in two
- 48:11Speaker 2: thousand and one of Space Odyssey, and then that is
- 48:13Speaker 2: the moon landing footage. But we don't really get too
- 48:16Speaker 2: much into the faking of the moon landing in the movie,
- 48:20Speaker 2: but we do bring it up and we do talk
- 48:21Speaker 2: about it. But as I was watching it several times,
- 48:25Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, like, there's no way I'm going to
- 48:27Speaker 2: find things in here that people haven't seen or any
- 48:30Speaker 2: kind of new theory. And I was watching and I'm
- 48:33Speaker 2: seeing these things that I had never heard anyone ever
- 48:36Speaker 2: talk about before, and I'm like, holy crap, this is
- 48:40Speaker 2: in one of those things. Is the first time that
- 48:44Speaker 2: we meet Wendy and Danny in The Shining, Windy is
- 48:48Speaker 2: reading a book which is called Ketcher and the Rye
- 48:52Speaker 2: written by JD. Salinger, which was also on the scene
- 48:57Speaker 2: of two major assassinations in the United States within a
- 49:01Speaker 2: year of the release of The Shining, So it was
- 49:04Speaker 2: in The Shining. Stanley Cupri had it in The Shining,
- 49:06Speaker 2: and then less than a year later you had the
- 49:09Speaker 2: Mark David Chapman murder. Then you had the John Hinckley
- 49:14Speaker 2: assassination that, you know, the the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan.
- 49:18Speaker 2: They were both reading it, they both had it on
- 49:21Speaker 2: their on their person, they had had it with them
- 49:24Speaker 2: when the well, you know, attempting to kill Ronald Reagan.
- 49:30Speaker 2: It didn't actually have him, but he fired shots. I
- 49:32Speaker 2: think Ronald got hit in the back.
- 49:34Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it died. I mean, it's amazing, love
- 49:38Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. You heard what he said of the doctors, right,
- 49:42Speaker 1: what it is sayes any of you. Hope y'all voted Republican.
- 49:46Speaker 2: Right, But there's that, And that's in the very beginning
- 49:52Speaker 2: of the movie. And then with Omen basically telling Jack
- 49:57Speaker 2: in the dialogue between Jack and Olman, He's like, listen,
- 50:02Speaker 2: this isn't a very physically demanding job. This is a
- 50:07Speaker 2: this is a psychological job. This is mentally taxing, you know.
- 50:12Speaker 2: And that's him giving you know, Jack a queue that
- 50:18Speaker 2: this is like an experiment. This isn't like a you know,
- 50:24Speaker 2: a normal type of job. And then later on when
- 50:27Speaker 2: Jack is sort of in like a psychosis and going
- 50:31Speaker 2: after Windy, Jack is like, do you know not know
- 50:33Speaker 2: the responsibilities that I have to my employers? And then
- 50:36Speaker 2: also within that conversation between Olman and Jack, they talk
- 50:42Speaker 2: about these people in Denver, like all the time they
- 50:44Speaker 2: bring up to people in Denver, like four or five
- 50:46Speaker 2: times in the conversation, like who are these people in
- 50:50Speaker 2: Denver that they keep referencing, And so there was a
- 50:55Speaker 2: lot of things like that. And then I I was
- 50:57Speaker 2: the first person to see that there's a handprint on
- 51:02Speaker 2: a bloody handprint on the lady's ass whenever she whenever
- 51:07Speaker 2: Jack gets up from the bar, whenever he's talking to
- 51:09Speaker 2: Grady and Grady gives him drinks, whenever before Jack runs
- 51:13Speaker 2: in the Grady and Grady spills the alcohol on Jack.
- 51:15Speaker 2: There's a lady that walks past right in front of
- 51:17Speaker 2: them that has like a bloody handprint on her ass.
- 51:21Speaker 2: And then there's a Nazi swastika in the background of
- 51:26Speaker 2: the gold Room, which correlates to what other people have seen,
- 51:32Speaker 2: which I did not come up with. I learned about
- 51:35Speaker 2: it was that at the end of the movie, there's
- 51:39Speaker 2: whenever the camera pans into the picture frames on the wall,
- 51:45Speaker 2: when the shot fades from the far away shot to
- 51:49Speaker 2: the close up shot of Jack's picture on the wall,
- 51:52Speaker 2: just for a split second, you can see like a
- 51:55Speaker 2: tiny Hitler mustache beginning to form on Jack's face, which
- 51:59Speaker 2: it all wraps up nice and neat into this movie
- 52:02Speaker 2: because we propose that it's really a mind control operation
- 52:08Speaker 2: that's happening up at the overlook. I mean, it has everything,
- 52:12Speaker 2: all the telltale signs of it being a CIA experiment,
- 52:18Speaker 2: especially when you look at the Monarch poster on the
- 52:23Speaker 2: wall when Danny sees the twins. That's one of the
- 52:25Speaker 2: first things that Danny sees at the hotel. That's anything
- 52:30Speaker 2: that's strange. He sees the twins in the games room.
- 52:33Speaker 2: And I didn't see this to begin with. Again, I'm
- 52:37Speaker 2: trying to make distinction here. I wasn't the first person
- 52:41Speaker 2: to see the Monarch poster. Other people had seen the
- 52:43Speaker 2: Monarch poster before, but they never talked about what it
- 52:46Speaker 2: actually means, what Monarch actually means. They try and relate
- 52:51Speaker 2: it to a dynasty or that it's referring to Monarch
- 52:59Speaker 2: Mountain in Colorado, which is a possibility. But Stanley Kubrick,
- 53:04Speaker 2: he could have put anything on that wall, Like why
- 53:07Speaker 2: did he put a poster that says Monarch at the
- 53:10Speaker 2: bottom of it, you know, And why did he do
- 53:12Speaker 2: all of these things. And another thing, there's a whole
- 53:15Speaker 2: ending to The Shining that nobody even knew about that
- 53:17Speaker 2: was cut from the movie that really explains the entire
- 53:20Speaker 2: movie and shows that there's a there's a that it
- 53:24Speaker 2: was basically a CIA operation. Oh really, Yeah, the Stanley
- 53:29Speaker 2: Kubrick cut out the entire the original ending of the movie.
- 53:33Speaker 1: So was were they being used then as an MK
- 53:38Speaker 1: ultra experiment?
- 53:41Speaker 2: Well, when you look at the book Catcher in the Rye,
- 53:42Speaker 2: a lot of people have said that Catcher in the Rise,
- 53:44Speaker 2: like this MK ultra assassination trigger that you know, triggers
- 53:49Speaker 2: people to you know, kill people. And if you look
- 53:51Speaker 2: at The Shining, Jack, what's Jack doing throughout the movie?
- 53:55Speaker 2: He's trying to kill people. He's trying to kill his family.
- 53:58Speaker 1: Yeah, ended up killing himself. I think. So, so what
- 54:05Speaker 1: do you think Kubrick's was, you know, because I always
- 54:07Speaker 1: think of, you know, like Apocalypse Now, you know, another
- 54:12Speaker 1: one of these movies that that movie is one that
- 54:15Speaker 1: still kind of jacks with my head a lot if
- 54:17Speaker 1: you if you watch it, it's so intense. But I
- 54:21Speaker 1: contend that the whole setting of the backdrop for The
- 54:28Speaker 1: Shining is it's always been a little bit odd because
- 54:33Speaker 1: it's it trying makes you think it's supernatural, but it's
- 54:36Speaker 1: really about a man's own psychosis.
- 54:41Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's hidden under the guise of something
- 54:44Speaker 2: super natural. And that's something that we bring up within
- 54:46Speaker 2: the film too, is like, this is one of the
- 54:48Speaker 2: greatest people you know put this on their top five
- 54:53Speaker 2: at least horror films.
- 54:54Speaker 1: A horror films.
- 54:55Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's not really a horror film. There's nothing
- 54:58Speaker 2: that happens throughout the movie that's considered horror until the
- 55:05Speaker 2: last thirty minutes of the movie. That's it.
- 55:10Speaker 1: So it's like I kind of at points that it
- 55:11Speaker 1: did kind of drag in the middle because it again,
- 55:15Speaker 1: but I love how you're coming at this. If you
- 55:17Speaker 1: look at Jack's character, I mean, the guy is this
- 55:20Speaker 1: going deeper and deeper. You know, it's like he's losing
- 55:23Speaker 1: all basis of reality.
- 55:26Speaker 2: And the only time that he experienced anything strange and
- 55:30Speaker 2: started seeing you know, people within the like you know,
- 55:36Speaker 2: ghost and apparitions and stuff is when he took that
- 55:41Speaker 2: alcoholic drink from Lloyd. Then he goes into the room
- 55:44Speaker 2: two thirty seven because Wendy comes down and Wendy is like, oh,
- 55:48Speaker 2: Danny got attacked by this old lady in an upstairs room.
- 55:52Speaker 2: So then he goes up there and then he sees
- 55:54Speaker 2: the old the really attractive woman then turn into an
- 55:58Speaker 2: elderly lady. And then when Wendy ask him about it later,
- 56:01Speaker 2: he's like, nothing happened. I didn't see I didn't see
- 56:04Speaker 2: a damn thing up there. So it's like, you know,
- 56:07Speaker 2: and the CIA has been known too, you know, in
- 56:11Speaker 2: in the early days to spike people's drinks with LSD.
- 56:17Speaker 2: There's many cases of that. There's even cases of people
- 56:21Speaker 2: springing LSD aerosol in a room to make to make
- 56:25Speaker 2: people trip out. And one of the famous cases of
- 56:29Speaker 2: that was Blinking on his name. But there is Sidney
- 56:34Speaker 2: Gottlieb spike this guy's drink. It's there's a whole Netflix
- 56:40Speaker 2: documentary about it, and he ended up committing suicide and
- 56:44Speaker 2: killing himself jumping out of a window, and we show
- 56:46Speaker 2: the document in the movie.
- 56:48Speaker 1: Let me ask you writers as a person that in
- 56:53Speaker 1: my youth, you know, I have a very close association
- 56:57Speaker 1: with LSD. But my point is where the CIA is
- 57:02Speaker 1: concerned in mind control, such as MK ultra. There was
- 57:07Speaker 1: this everywhere from the military industrial complex into domestic intelligence.
- 57:15Speaker 1: For I'd probably say about maybe seven eight years thereabouts,
- 57:21Speaker 1: there was this concentrated effort of seeing what LSD had
- 57:26Speaker 1: on the effect of individuals and society in large groups.
- 57:31Speaker 1: What do you think the purpose of that was? And
- 57:33Speaker 1: it was it was incorporated in a number of films.
- 57:37Speaker 2: Well, taking some kind of hallucinogenic knowingly and you know
- 57:43Speaker 2: what it is taking and you're expecting to feel the
- 57:46Speaker 2: effects of that is one thing, but unknowingly getting those
- 57:52Speaker 2: with it, you're going to think that you're losing your mind. Yeah,
- 57:57Speaker 2: you're going to be like, what is going on right now?
- 58:00Speaker 1: What ticularly the LSD the government used it. It was
- 58:04Speaker 1: you know, sometimes many times five hundred and seven to
- 58:06Speaker 1: fifty mics, which that will fuck with your head.
- 58:11Speaker 2: Yeah, some of it was some of the first LSD
- 58:14Speaker 2: that they they used in the MK Ultra programs, which
- 58:20Speaker 2: wasn't called mk Ultra when it first started. It went
- 58:24Speaker 2: under different names like Artichoke and different types of code
- 58:27Speaker 2: words and code names. But some of the first experiments
- 58:30Speaker 2: were done on military personnel, army personnel which they use and.
- 58:34Speaker 1: They were talking with goats come from those guys were.
- 58:38Speaker 2: That's the start that's involved with the remove viewing program
- 58:42Speaker 2: of the Stargate Project. Lim Buchanan, which the I've had
- 58:47Speaker 2: on my show several times. He was the character in
- 58:50Speaker 2: the Minister at Goats was named Lynn and it's kind
- 58:53Speaker 2: of based off of limb Buchanan's experience. Okay, many people
- 58:57Speaker 2: will claim that the men who Stericoats is about them
- 58:59Speaker 2: and all, just like they do with you know, stranger
- 59:02Speaker 2: things like I am the real eleven, you know, just
- 59:05Speaker 2: like and in Breaking Back, a completely fictional show, people
- 59:11Speaker 2: will be like, I'm the real Walter White, you know.
- 59:13Speaker 2: There several people say that they there were the real person.
- 59:18Speaker 1: But with the LSD though, I mean there there there
- 59:21Speaker 1: was a purpose. I wonder many times, I don't think
- 59:24Speaker 1: we really get the full story. I think there was
- 59:26Speaker 1: far much more that they were digging for.
- 59:28Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it wasn't It just didn't have to do
- 59:30Speaker 2: with LSD. It has had to do with many drugs.
- 59:34Speaker 2: A lot of the antidepressants and antipsychotics also came out
- 59:39Speaker 2: of the m k AULTU programs. They were tested on
- 59:41Speaker 2: individuals before they ever hit the public Adderall riddling was
- 59:46Speaker 2: all tested on mk Ultra patients before they were given
- 59:50Speaker 2: to the public. So pretty much all we have a
- 59:52Speaker 2: list of all of the medications that the CIA tested
- 59:59Speaker 2: in the mk Ultra programs in the movie.
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: In the movie, there's like over.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: One hundred different medications that they were using. And Sydney
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: gott Leave, the head of the mk Ultra programs, had
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: a brother that was a plant biologist, So there you go.
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: Plant biologists is the brother the head of the mk
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Ultra programs. So that's just been two and two together.
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: There's not really any you know, proof that he was
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: making concoctions, but it only stands to reason that if
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: he's a plant biologist, he's making weird concoctions and giving
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: him to his brother to use on these patients. So
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: when people think that it's just the LSD, it's not.
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: It's like almost every single pharmaceutical medication that is readily
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: used today was used in those programs before they were
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: given to the public. And then what did they put
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: kids on when they don't behave or whenever they're not
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: school riddle in our adderall right, or some sort of
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: ADHD medication.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: And I was heard that this has gone back further
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: if you go back into the air here in the
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: United States where we had asylums, you know, these mineral
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: asylums which held five six seven thousand patients at a time.
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: That it is said that this was more government driven
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: because they didn't have the accountability factor that they did
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: they would have today, and that many of the breakthroughs
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: in drugs and what have you that we have is
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: because of the experiments that they did on the so
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: called mentally ill.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: Yeah, the insane asylum thing was that.
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: Would be a good documentary because there were some there
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: was some evil stuff going on there. I mean that
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: that the governments and medical the medical industry knew about
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: in fact condoned.
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: Yeah, and and propped up. And I just had one
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: eye Alla on my show recently, and we did a
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: whole thing on like trebidation. Trebnation, it's either trab nation
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: or trebidation. I think they're both really similar. But that
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: that when you you basically drill a hole into your
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: like frontal lobe, and it's supposed to disconnect some things
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: that make you be able to see the spiritual realm
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: and be in contact with like entities and like see
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: people's uh.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Scene through lotomy in order to touch God pretty much.
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: But that that was the that's yeah, that's exactly right.
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: But that's how the lobotomy really started. Yeah, with that
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: type of scenario and that belief that if you drilled
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: a hole in the frontal lobe of your brain that
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: you would unlock these spiritual and then it eventually turned
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: into lobotomies. The transorbital lobotomy, the open brain lobotomy, the
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: open brain lobotomy were some of the first ones that
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: ever happened. And that's where they would literally just you know, surgically,
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: just putting up your skull and screw around with your brain.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: And then they realize that all they have to do
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: is disconnect that that frontal load thing. So then they
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: just took an ice pick and put it through your
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: tear duct of your eye and then wiggle around the
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: ice pick and it turns you into basically a zombie.
- 1:03:22Speaker 1: Now that's a horror film. Brother, I don't care what
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: anyone that just the thought of that alone, I mean,
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: holy crap.
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to some and seeing the oldest seen
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: asylums that are still up and up and running. There's
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: one in West and West Virginia called trans No, they're
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: not up and they're not up and running anymore. They
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: just do like tours. They do like historical tours, and
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: some of them do like, you know, ghost tours at
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: night and then paranormal tours and stuff. But the translag
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: Any Lunatic Asylum is the second largest handmade building in
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: the United States is still standing.
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: It's massive, huge property. I've seen pictures of that.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get the whole thing in one photo.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: And by the way, that's one of the things I
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: have against Reagan. Reagan basically cut off all funding of
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: and you know, let me just say that there were
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: a lot of asylums that were a refuge for people
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: that were truly had issues and that there were therapies
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: that were able to help them overcome that. So but
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: during the Reagan administration they shut them all down. I
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: mean I remember driving through Mississippi and seeing the Mississippi
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: State Mental Asylum.
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, And they would they would literally admit
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: people for the most ridiculous things, like you could literally
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: take your family member or your wife is like you
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: just didn't want to be with your wife anymore. You
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: could just take her and drop her off at the
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Insale asylum.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: And they wouldn't be any questions asked.
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: No questions ask And I've literally seen trans Alleghany the
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: log book because they have the logbook that you can
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: go through you can see all of the reasons for
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: why some of these patients were admitted. And one of
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: them was just like, well, one of the funny ones
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: is like excessive masturbation, which I thought was really funny, like.
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: How much is too much and how much is too little?
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: I've never read that book. Sorry, we're finding that you're
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: you know, and is that male or female? I'm not
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: really confused.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I was reading through it and I went down
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: to the bottom and just said reason for admission masturbation.
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: That's how insane it was back then though. And some
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: of them, some of the entries were for just having
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: a common cold, just being a little sick or having
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: an upset stomach, like they would literally just take their
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: family members and just drop them off at this Saint Asylomon.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: They went through torturous things at that point. It was like,
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: you know, electric shock, super like ice baths, like torturous conditions,
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: like it was just a really bad scenario to being.
- 1:06:18Speaker 4: So in an enlightened society, US folks, you know, this
- 1:06:23Speaker 4: is where our parents and grandparents are from and that
- 1:06:27Speaker 4: was completely acceptable.
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: I'm asking what the hell was wrong with us? And
- 1:06:36Speaker 1: let me tell you writer, and I know we've really
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: gone over thank you for hanging on.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: But so.
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: The skeptic within me says, all right, Steiger, you've got
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people that didn't have to be
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: accounted for. Now what makes you think they stop doing that?
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: So where are they getting their victims at? You know,
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: you and I were talking over the weekend. You know
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: the thing that's not talked about is the number of
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: missing homeless. And by the way, this is not a
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: small number. This is numbers that are now reaching six
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: seven figures. They think because no one tracks the homeless,
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: and and I can't help but not think and this
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: is just a conspiracy. Theorist in me says that these
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: facilities still exist, they just don't exist out in the open.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, It's highly plausible. I mean, think about it.
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: What was the reason that we did that back then? Like,
- 1:07:47Speaker 2: did we do it because there was actually something wrong
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: with these people? Or were there was there nothing wrong
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: with them? And then we still put them there because
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: we didn't want them a part of our society anymore.
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: We wanted this, you know, this perfect picturesque kind of
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: society that looked amazing from the outside. So we took
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: all of the people that might have been different and
- 1:08:15Speaker 2: we locked them up.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: I contend that, you know, but now it's not that anymore.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: Now we'll just put you on fifty medications. Now we'll
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: dose your child up with antidepressants, antipsychotics, adderall riddling, nerve
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: pills whatever.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: When you look at the medical industry in itself, I
- 1:08:39Speaker 1: mean back in the late seventeenth eighteenth nineteenth century, they
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: would steal cadavers grave robbers to bring the cadavers to
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: what would be considered people not have stable. But they
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: were doctors. So we learned the anatomy of the human body.
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: And then you got to take it that the brain.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: The brain is the last frontier. You figure the brain
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: out and you've got the holy Grail, so to speak.
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: And I contend that it's today I think they're trying
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: to figure out how to capture the human soul. Well,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: by the way, this is not medical advice. You know,
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: you get this crap sometimes. Well, all we're simply saying
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: is what it is, by the evidence and it's out
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: there because you know, when you.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: Look at some of the pharmaceutical drug company is from
- 1:09:32Speaker 2: like way back in the day. The very first manufacturer
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: of LSD that made a deal with the CIA to
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: manufacture LSD for them was Eli Lilly Company. Yeah. Eli
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: Lilly Company was also the first manufacturer of Prozac.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: And a lot of these coincidence nothing to see here, just.
- 1:09:56Speaker 2: A crazy coincidence there. And from my personal research and
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: my personal thoughts and theories, is that what they were
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: trying to do. Because when the CIA released the LSD
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: to the public and like you know, made it readily available,
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: which is another thing that we talk about within our
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: film A Clockwork Shining, is that the CIA pretty much
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: created the counterculture, but then they also stomped out the counterculture.
- 1:10:26Speaker 2: They also destroyed the counterculture with the Manson Tate murders.
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: After the Manson Tate murders, it was like just kind
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: of over at that point, it was done. And Mark Devlin,
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: which is in our film, he believes that that was
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: a setup to basically destroy the monster that they created.
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: So you have LSD that's linked to Charles Manson, then
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: his crew does this murder and then it takes it out.
- 1:10:57Speaker 1: That's completely different than Timothy Larry. You know Timothy Larry
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: who ran for governor against d Reagan. By the way,
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: Oh yeah he did, didn't Yeah, yeah, he did. Yeah,
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: And you were talking about this. You know, I used
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: to sell drugs at back in nineteen seventy thereabouts, and
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: I would get you know, the LSD. I would pick
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: it up, typically from someone that was a chemist, and
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: many times it you know, it's quite interesting because there
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: would be thousands of hits, you know, of orange Sunshine,
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: and so that tell told me that someone's manufacturing this
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: on a much larger scale.
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: Then when you look at like, okay, well, the main
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: manufacturer in the United States was Eli Lilly Company. They
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: were had a contract with the CIA to distribute these
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: all the CIA, all the acid and the LSD for
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: the CIA. And then the CIA realizes that they made
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: a huge mistake by bringing this to the population.
- 1:12:07Speaker 1: They like it, they like it.
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: This is a problem, This is becoming a real issue.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: How do we how do we take care of this problem? Well,
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: one what you would do is you would create a
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: scenario like the Manson Tate situation that puts this in
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: the Then unfavorable contacts with a with a quas a
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: serial killer, so you would link that and the next
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: thing that you would want to do is that you
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: would want to take away all of the enlightening effects
- 1:12:41Speaker 2: and consciousness expanding effects of LSD, but you still want
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: to have the drug, and rose that comes in. That's
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: where these antidepressants come in.
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: They're there.
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: An offshoot of LSD, but without the enlightening and consciousness
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: expanding effects of it. Is the is the dumbing down
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: and the zombie effects of it. So they they've chemically
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: changed LSD it's at its fundamental structure to rid the
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: drug of any healthy benefits. And then they put the
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: culture in the society on anti depressants and anti psychotics.
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: I mean, when you look at the statistics of how
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: many people are on pharmaceutical medications is ridiculous. Over half
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: the population in the United States pharmaceutical medication.
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's back when I was single,
- 1:13:49Speaker 1: I dated a couple of ladies that were psychedesh. You know, well, right,
- 1:13:55Speaker 1: this really went way over. I apologize for that. Interesting
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: conversation and someone talked about ka ludes. Yeah, got some
- 1:14:04Speaker 1: stories on that one. Oh, boy, boy boy. Great sex though,
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: that's all I got to say. Sex on LSD, wasn't
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: That's a whole different hold bucket deal, becauesn't.
- 1:14:19Speaker 2: You start laughing? You just start just laughing.
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: True story, You forget what you're doing. Absolute truth story. Yeah,
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, I just don't remember Susie looking at me,
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: Hi Digress. Well, Writer, everyone, I've left the link out there.
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- 1:15:21Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Wayne, appreciate it. You've always been
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- 1:15:27Speaker 2: You're a good friend and someone that I really look
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- 1:15:47Speaker 2: Hollywood is done. All Hollywood wants to do is remake, reboot,
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: use recognizable IP and that's coming to TV as well.
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: They're doing nothing but remakes, reboots, prequel sequels, requels, and
- 1:16:01Speaker 2: it's getting ready to infiltrate into the TV movie industry
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: as well, which is a sad, sad thing because the
- 1:16:08Speaker 2: TV was kind of the last stop for creative people
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- 1:16:41Speaker 2: Drive thinks everyone in the chat. I wasn't able to
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: watch any of the chat because I wanted to be
- 1:16:45Speaker 2: engaged in the conversation and sometimes.
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: It was engaging. We covered the whole gamut on this.
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: It was and you know, when I look at the independence.
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: You know, film producers and directors. They are the ones
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: that bring out new directions in film. And as you
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: were saying, Hollywood just now is regurgitating the vomit that
- 1:17:08Speaker 1: was once you know, regurgitated to begin with, and you know,
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: it becomes so stale, and it's talents like yourself writer
- 1:17:19Speaker 1: that bring out. I find it very creative and it's
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: thought provoking. So and to me, you've accomplished exactly what
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: I believe your film was there to do, engage in discussion.
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: That's the response that I've gotten from several people that
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: have watched it. They've reached out to me personally and
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: they're like, hey, like, I've been looking into this stuff
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: for years and years and years. I've considered myself awake
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: for a really long time. But the way that you
- 1:17:48Speaker 2: presented it, and with the way that we presented this
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: movie it they also had a hard time like processing it.
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: They several people told me that they had to pause
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: it at like an hour in just to take in
- 1:18:03Speaker 2: all the information. Like holy crap. So if you watch it,
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- 1:18:23Speaker 2: you're able to purchase it, I'm glad that the election
- 1:18:27Speaker 2: went as smooth as possible so far, so that, you know,
- 1:18:31Speaker 2: because I was really worried about that. So the election is,
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: you know, so far, so good there, and hopefully everything
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: turns out great. And this movie is a smash hit
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: and it's a really big success. And I'll definitely have
- 1:18:45Speaker 2: you to think Wayne for bringing me on and having
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: this conversation with me and promoting the movie. And when
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: you watch it, please please let me.
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: Know you hear that this is the way we can
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: support one another as a community. And as so Bonnie says,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: can't wait, Rider, I'm watching it this Saturday. You know,
- 1:19:04Speaker 1: Saturday is typically the day because I love watching independent
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: films and Amazon Prime offers a lot of that, and
- 1:19:12Speaker 1: in fact, they have a whole category of that.
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: So yeah, watch you with your watch with your wife.
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: I am he's usually right beside me.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: Be interested to let me know what she thinks as well.
- 1:19:24Speaker 1: I'll let you know that. Yeah, yeah, I love that.
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: Gal Well, Rider, much love to you, brother, and thank
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: you for coming on sometime. We have to get Jay
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: over here at the same time, and that would be
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: an engaging conversation, no doubt, just to use it free
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: forming it.
- 1:19:42Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, he's on like a little trip right now,
- 1:19:44Speaker 2: so he won't be back for around a week or so.
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: But yeah, let's h let's let's do another one. Let's
- 1:19:50Speaker 2: do that after you've watched it and you've all right good,
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: we'll do another one with me and Jay.
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: Excellent idea everyone in the chat room. Thank you, Nina,
- 1:20:00Speaker 1: Love you y'all. Check out Nina's program. She does her
- 1:20:04Speaker 1: hump day show. Guy, I much love to you as well,
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: and Bonnie, much love to all the rest of y'all.
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: I'll see you tomorrow. And hey, Zach writer said, just
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: sit back and enjoy the moment. And if you're if
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: your person didn't win, it's all right, it's gonna be okay.
- 1:20:23Speaker 1: And if your candidate did well, happy for you. So anyway,
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: much love everyone. Guy says she's gonna look forward to
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: watching it as well. So all right, you beautiful, lovely people,
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: we love you, and