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Imposter · Many Things with Steph Libby

• 0:02
  Welcome back to Many Things.
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  I'm Steph, I'm multi-passionate, and I'm building my dream life one step at a time, and this is the podcast where I talk about all of it.
• 0:11
  If you're new here, each week I pick what I call my word of the week, and I talk about how that word showed up in my life over the last seven days.
• 0:21
  My word of the week this week is imposter.
• 0:25
  So imposter, yeah, so this one is a bit of a toughie for me.
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  Um, it's a pretty vulnerable word, and it brought up a lot of really vulnerable feelings this week.
• 0:39
  Um, you know, who likes to admit that they feel like an imposter or a fraud most of the time? It's embarrassing to admit, though I think imposter syndrome is far more prevalent than we know, even though the term imposter syndrome is, um, pretty zeitgeisty.
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  But obviously, until about five years ago, I don't think there was really a word or a phrase for that feeling that I would get in the pit of my stomach.
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  I was so relieved when that term came about and everyone started using it, because I didn't feel alone anymore.
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  I felt like the first step in addressing any problem is being able to name it, and I didn't know how to really name it before.
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  Um, so I was relieved when that kind of became a term that was, you know, used a lot more frequently with people.
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  Um, it was just nice to know that most people at some point in their lives feel like an imposter, at least in some area of their life, if not across multiple areas.
• 1:43
  Um, it's something I've struggled with my whole life.
• 1:47
  I've never quite felt like I fit in, and over time, that's evolved into major, major imposter syndrome.
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  I always feel like I'm on the verge of getting found out.
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  Like, what exactly I think I'm going to be exposed for, I honestly don't even know.
• 2:06
  That's what's so frustrating about feeling like an imposter.
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  It's nonspecific for me.
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  It's just this kind of uh, unsettling, anxious feeling that just kinda coats everything in my life.
• 2:22
  I can't put a finger on what exactly I'm accusing myself of being an imposter of exactly.
• 2:28
  Um, a lot of it's work, but some of it's personal relationships, my friendships especially.
• 2:34
  Um, I'm just always feeling like I'm about to expose myself, that I've taken on more than I can chew or that I'm not smart enough for something or that I'm not capable in some way, which is frustrating because I do know deep down that I am a reasonable, relatively smart and capable person.
• 3:02
  But even as I say that, I usually tend to hesitate.
• 3:07
  I have t- I, like, have to really ask myself, engage if that's how I actually feel or if that's just something I know I should say about myself, so I say it out of habit or duty rather than coming from a place of real authentic feeling.
• 3:23
  And that's such a weird concept because I'm surrounded by people who seem very confident in their ability and, um, seem, uh, pulled together and ha- like they have a good head on their shoulders.
• 3:39
  And a lot of those people are people that I look up to, and I think that's also what's kind of confusing and disarming about imposter syndrome is when we talk about it openly, I'm always shocked at the number of people who I look up to and admire who also feel like imposters all the time, and some of them are really accomplished in their fields or, um, you know, kind of like experts or, uh, they're just seen as kinda like the go-to person at work or wherever.
• 4:12
  Um, so it's always shocking to me that everyone's sort of having these feelings all the time of just like self-doubt and finding it hard to reassure themselves, um, that they can do whatever it is that they're feeling an imposter about.
• 4:29
  Um, but it's strange because it's, it's like on the one hand I know these things to be true about myself.
• 4:36
  Like I, I do know I'm capable.
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  I do know I'm responsible and I'm smart and reasonable and have good ideas and I can be creative and all these different things, but at the same time I don't believe any of it about myself.
• 4:53
  And it's, I, it's just a, it's a hard thing to try to explain to someone, but at the same time we all, I think, experience it to some degree so I- it's also kind of confounding as to why people don't, um, maybe understand or aren't as in tune to imposter syndrome as much as other people are.
• 5:20
  Um, I don't know.
• 5:23
  I mean, I don't know how to overcome this feeling, this fraudulent imposter feeling.
• 5:29
  I mean, I guess therapy is probably the ticket.
• 5:33
  Um, but no matter how much, no matter how much I achieve or how many compliments I receive or awards, it doesn't move the needle in how I feel about myself, which you think it would.
• 5:47
  You'd think that all these things would be evidence in the case against my being a fraud, that it would prove, um, that I'm not any of those things.
• 5:57
  Like, there's evidence to the contrary.
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  But instead it makes me more anxious because the bar has been set even higher, the expectations for what I achieve next are greater, and I can't help but feel like I'm, like, unintentionally pulling the wool over some people's eyes, and that maybe I hit this first accomplishment or two, but eventually reality's going to catch up.
• 6:22
  People are going to see through me, and I'm going to be left in this really vulnerable, exposed place feeling like a bad person because someone had faith in me or gave me extra responsibilities, and it turns out they never should have, and I'm going to be painted as a fraud and a liar or someone who knew all along that she couldn't handle it.
• 6:44
  Um, I think there's also, beyond just, like, feeling like a fraud, I think it's just that fear of, like, embarrassing yourself that, um, you're gonna put yourself out there, you're gonna try something new, you're going to step out of your comfort zone, and you're gonna fail, and everyone's gonna see you failing.
• 7:04
  And it's bad enough to fail in front of people and kind of stumble your way through, but it's even worse when you felt like the whole time people were maybe already second guessing whether or not you were capable of doing that thing to begin with.
• 7:22
  Um- Part of that feeling, I think, comes from being multi-passionate because I've never become an expert in anything.
• 7:33
  I've always bounced around and dabbled or maybe another way to think about it is that I might have expertise in some things, but many of those things I don't maybe personally consider valuable, so it doesn't feel like expertise to me.
• 7:48
  Um, that could also be true.
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  I, you know, for instance, like I don't love marketing, I don't love agency work, I don't love client service, but I'm good at it, and some people might think that I'm an expert at those things, but I don't think of myself that way.
• 8:04
  Um, I'm kind of ashamed that I work in marketing, and I'm kind of ashamed that I work in marketing in tech.
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  Um, so maybe I don't wanna believe that one of the only things that I might be decent at or at least knowledgeable about is one of the things that I like the least, rather than be an expert, um, about something that I'm really passionate about and would be proud to be an expert in.
• 8:34
  Um, you know, part of being multi-passionate is that we are a breed of people who are always finding ourselves to be a beginner in something Yeah, I'm not a super diversified, multi-passionate person.
• 8:50
  My interests are actually pretty narrow in topic, but broad in scope within that niche.
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  So what I mean is that my interests are pretty centered in, like, two or three f- areas rather than being someone who dabbles in, like, 20 different things.
• 9:07
  Like, I have friends who paint, um, who do crafts, who play instruments, who write, who, um, you know, are entrepreneurs.
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  Like, and that could be, like, the same person.
• 9:23
  Like, I have, I have a l- s- people in my life who are just good at, like, a lot of different things or at least enjoy doing a real variety of a lot of different activities.
• 9:33
  Um, whereas I...
• 9:35
  Like, I love writing, but instead of just being one type of writer, I love all writing.
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  I love different genres and forms, short and long.
• 9:43
  Um, I love writing memoir and poetry.
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  I journal.
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  I love talking about writing.
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  I love reading about writing.
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  I love teaching writing.
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  Um, I love the subcultures that come with writing and books and all of that.
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  But, but anyway, uh, because I'm always a beginner, as most multi-passionate people are, we're kind of jumping around from thing to thing, so we're kind of chronic beginners.
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  I always feel like I don't actually know anything.
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  Even if it's something that I've spent, like, time in, I'm just so used to researching and reading and curiosity and discovering, um, that I'm always surrounded by people who know more or who have been writing longer or are more articulate or have real credentials or whatever.
• 10:31
  Or if there's something that I'm just, like, kind of really curious in, there's always gonna be people who just know more, are more well-versed in it and, and all of that.
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  And so it's...
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  I'm always just at the beginning of something, and that just comes with the territory of being multi-passionate.
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  It's just one of those things.
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  So You know, I think, you know, I wonder if multi-passionate people are just more prone to imposter syndrome because we're always kind of starting something new.
• 11:00
  We're always kind of at the beginning of something.
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  And I don't, I don't really, at least from my perspective, I don't think we ever truly get super comfortable with being a beginner.
• 11:14
  Um, it's always uncomfortable, I think.
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  It's alway- it, it has a tendency to feel very raw.
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  And, you know, unless you're one of these people who are, like, very, very gifted and they can, like, pick up anything and they're just great at it, it, it's always gonna be kind of a struggle, and it's always gonna feel Like you're, um, the kid in a room full of adults, you know? So, uh, I'd like to think that we gets u- get used to being beginners, but I don't know.
• 11:46
  Like, at least for me, it's always really tough.
• 11:48
  Um, i- imposter syndrome feels like an out-of-body experience in a lot of ways because I won't give myself any credit for anything, yet I can have this 50,000-foot view of myself and the situation and know what's logical about it and know that I might be being extra hard on myself And, and that's always, like, kind of a struggle to deal with.
• 12:18
  Like, it goes back to what I was saying a little earlier.
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  It's like I have this kind of more feelings version of myself, like how I feel like I'm an imposter, and I feel like I don't know what I'm talking about.
• 12:29
  But, like, ultimately, I, I, I know I, that I do.
• 12:34
  But to get my heart and my mind to connect in a logical way so that they're both kind of on the same page is really, really difficult.
• 12:43
  And my brain doesn't win out.
• 12:46
  My, my brain is never going to tell me that, like, I'm great at this thing, and I should just trust my instincts.
• 12:51
  Like, that's never my first thought.
• 12:53
  Um, doubt is always my first thought.
• 12:57
  And I think for me, imposter syndrome and perfectionism, perfectionism go hand-in-hand.
• 13:06
  You know, they feed off of each other in really hard to manage ways.
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  And when those two feelings combine, it spirals out of control really easily.
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  All logic kind of goes out the window at that point.
• 13:16
  And I think there's, like, maybe a third spoke to this wheel, um, where you have imposter syndrome, perfectionism.
• 13:28
  But I think there's also a lot there around, like, the, the fear of disappointment.
• 13:33
  I feel like part of being hard on yourself, which probably just links back to, like, low self-esteem, honestly.
• 13:40
  But, um, part of where that imposter syndrome is kind of coming from, I think, is, like, managing your own expectations.
• 13:49
  If I think, if I don't ever think that I'm great at something, then when I, if I fail or I disappoint myself or I don't achieve whatever the thing is that I want to achieve, then you don't have to be quite as disappointed in yourself, that the pain doesn't have to be quite as hard.
• 14:09
  The hit doesn't feel quite as heavy because you knew from the beginning that was maybe a long shot.
• 14:15
  But it's also hard to live in an existence where you think everything in your life, everything that you go after is a long shot.
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  Um, or that when you get it, you can't even enjoy the getting of it because you don't think you actually deserved it in the first place.
• 14:37
  You know, I found myself in a lot of interesting situations in my life, like job hunting and things like that.
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  And I remember this one time, um, I was working at a collection agency.
• 14:51
  I can't remember if I had already finished my MFA and my other master's, um, or if this was before that.
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  I can't quite remember, like, how old I was at the time, but I was, like, in my 20s, like mid to late 20s.
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  And, um, there was this big, um...
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  I can't remember the name of it now, but there was this big, like, kind of community health organization in Southern New Hampshire, and they were looking for Um, I don't, like a head- like a director of philanthropy, um, or a director of major gifts, something like that.
• 15:32
  And I applied for it, and I really felt like I had no shot of getting it.
• 15:38
  Um, I definitely thought it was like way out of my league, all of this, and, and I really did not have the experience it needed or, or anything.
• 15:48
  But I went in there, and I gave a great interview, and they loved me, and I came in for a second interview, and they still loved me, and I almost got the job.
• 15:57
  It came down to me and one other person, and when the lady called to tell me that I didn't get the work, um, she told me that it was down to me and this other person and that the only deciding factor really just it come down to like the person, the other person just had more experience.
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  And I don't understand why I don't think about that more often.
• 16:23
  Like when I'm a, when I'm job seeking or thinking about my next move, I don't understand why I can't look back at that and go, "You know, maybe I'm not an imposter."
• 16:34
  Like, maybe that these very educated, very...
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  These were older women.
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  They've clearly interviewed probably hundreds of people in their careers, and they saw something in me that they really liked.
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  And I almost made it across the finish line for a job that was...
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  I mean, at the time, I was just a marketing assistant.
• 16:56
  I was a marketing assistant.
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  That's it.
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  That's all I was.
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  I was just a lowly marketing assistant who was, um, who had found her way onto like a, a board for a charter school and was barely keeping her head above water, and I almost got this job.
• 17:13
  And I don't know, so I don't know why I don't think about that more.
• 17:16
  Like, that is evidence that I'm capable.
• 17:20
  There's evidence that like I have something going on upstairs.
• 17:25
  And I also think about times, which I think I've shared on this podcast before, but times where, you know, when it comes to my writing, I will tell myself like, "I'm not good enough.
• 17:34
  No one's ever wanna, ever wanna read my work."
• 17:38
  But I have each, every story that I've sent out has gotten published.
• 17:45
  Have I sent out a lot of stories? No.
• 17:47
  But I've sent my work out.
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  It has got accepted every time.
• 17:52
  Um, was I sending it to maybe low-hanging fruit places? Potentially, sure, but they were still picked.
• 17:57
  People still liked them, and I've even gotten paid for some of my writing.
• 18:04
  I don't know why I keep insisting that I don't know anything about writing, that I don't know how to tell a good story.
• 18:09
  I've had friends and people I don't know even come up to me and tell me that they love my writing.
• 18:15
  I remember when I was, um, when I was graduating with my MFA for creative writing, they did, like, a senior reading night, and that was part of, like, your graduation weekend is that you had to, uh, read part of your thesis.
• 18:33
  And so I read a chapter from my thesis, and I had people...
• 18:38
  You know, there are people that I don't know at all, and I had people coming up to me afterwards and saying that they thought my writing was beautiful.
• 18:47
  Like, I don't know these people.
• 18:48
  They don't have to come up to me and give me a compliment about my writing at all, at all.
• 18:53
  Like, this is completely unsolicited.
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  They don't know who I am.
• 18:57
  They actually know people there 'cause it's, like, friends and family of other people that are graduating, so they really have no reason to be there at all.
• 19:04
  Um, and I had people who were new to the program who I hadn't even met before coming up and saying that they loved my story.
• 19:11
  It's wild.
• 19:11
  And, um, my first semester there, um, I also did, like, a...
• 19:20
  You know, they did, like, a new writers...
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  You know, they would always have, like, little readings.
• 19:25
  And, um, there was this really famous literary agent that was there.
• 19:31
  And, um, I read, and he had happened to be there 'cause he was visiting the campus and doing a speech or whatever, and he had come up to me afterwards and said that he loved my story and that, um, when I got my writing together, that I should send it on, um, and he would love to read it.
• 19:56
  Did I ever do that? I didn't.
• 19:58
  I never did that.
• 19:59
  And there have just been countless times like that, though, I guess, is my point, where there is so much evidence that I'm good at it, but I still can't bring myself to believe it.
• 20:09
  And I know that deep down part of that is it's easier to believe that I can't than to believe that I can.
• 20:15
  And I don't quite know how to overcome some of that.
• 20:20
  But maybe part of it is just reminding myself of those moments when these good things are happening and these positive things are occurring, and to remind myself that, like People are giving me these opport- like, I'm earning them, and people are giving me opportunities, and maybe I'm just, like, much harder on myself than I need to be.
• 20:49
  Um, 'cause it's not fun wandering through life constantly feeling like an imposter, constantly feeling like you don't belong, constantly feeling like someone else deserves whatever this thing is more than you.
• 21:02
  But for what reason? Like, I don't know how much someone's actually working towards this thing that I want, but I know how hard I'm working towards the thing that I want.
• 21:14
  Um- Yeah, I don't know.
• 21:18
  I mean, obviously it brings a lot of anxiety.
• 21:21
  It brings a lot of uncertainty.
• 21:23
  Um, it's definitely, you know, a self-esteem problem for sure, and it's a trust problem too.
• 21:32
  Like, I don't trust myself.
• 21:33
  I don't trust that I'm smart.
• 21:35
  I don't trust myself with my own decision-making.
• 21:37
  I don't trust that I'm trying hard enough, or, um, I don't trust that I'm going to ever feel like an adult rather than...
• 21:46
  I always feel like I'm just, like, this 22-year-old kid fresh out of college who, like, can't fucking figure anything out for themselves.
• 21:53
  But actually I'm 39 years old and still stumbling my way through life, and I...
• 22:00
  And maybe part of it is just we- that feeling never seems to go away.
• 22:06
  Like, when I talk to older people or I read essays that people write, it seems like people feel like the kid at the adults' table their entire lives.
• 22:16
  And so maybe part of living is just accepting the fact that we all feel like imposters all the time because That's maybe just part of life.
• 22:31
  Um, I mean, I do believe that faking it until you make it does work a little bit with imposter syndrome.
• 22:38
  I feel like that's...
• 22:40
  You just gotta kind of like compartmentalize and shut your brain off and tell yourself that you can even when you absolutely believe that you can't or shouldn't, or that there's someone better out there to do it.
• 22:52
  Um, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
• 22:54
  I think I think the only way out is through, and you have to just sort of push through it.
• 23:03
  Doesn't make it easy.
• 23:04
  Um, it's much easier to say that that's the way to move through it.
• 23:12
  Um, I don't know.
• 23:14
  I mean, some of the best confidence advice is either, like, that I've received in my life, and I mean, I don't have a lot of confidence, so maybe I haven't received the best advice.
• 23:24
  But it does always seem like you just gotta, like, force yourself to do it and tell yourself that you can even when you don't, so, like, fake it till you make it.
• 23:31
  Or reminding yourself of times when the opposite is true.
• 23:37
  So, like, reminding yourself of times when you said you couldn't do something, but you did.
• 23:41
  You said you wouldn't win, but you did.
• 23:43
  Um- So I don't know.
• 23:47
  I mean, it's hard because I also don't know...
• 23:51
  I can't define the thing that I need to have happen in order for me to not feel like an imposter.
• 24:00
  You know what I mean? Like, every time I think I, I, I always say, like, "Oh, I feel like an imposter.
• 24:08
  I feel, like, this anxiety.
• 24:09
  I feel like I'm getting found out."
• 24:10
  But it's like, okay, well, like, what would I need to do or what would I need to accomplish to make that feeling go away? And I don't have a good answer for that.
• 24:18
  Like, I just don't know.
• 24:20
  And I also feel like even if I could define it for, like, today, where I'm at with myself, I feel like that's always gonna be a moving goalpost.
• 24:31
  Like, it's never just gonna be, "Well, once I achieve this thing, then I'll feel better.
• 24:35
  Then I'll know that I'm not an imposter anymore."
• 24:37
  I don't think there is that.
• 24:39
  I don't think there's, like, an end game.
• 24:41
  I think it's just the way we feel, and I think some people just feel it more and other people feel it less.
• 24:47
  But I think everyone kind of feels out of place.
• 24:50
  Or I'm h- I guess maybe I'm hoping that everyone always feels a little bit out of place.
• 24:54
  Otherwise, you know, what does that, I guess, say about me? Um, so I don't know.
• 25:03
  Like, I, I've been thinking about it a lot this week, obviously, because of this podcast and all of that, but I don't know.
• 25:10
  I, I guess I didn't...
• 25:13
  I guess I wasn't sure, like, what feelings, um, this topic would bring up for me.
• 25:19
  I wasn't quite sure, like, where I would land with it.
• 25:23
  But it was kind of, um...
• 25:26
  it started off as a very heavy kind of topic, but as the week went on and I thought about it more and more, I don't know, I guess maybe, like, maybe I made a bit of peace with it.
• 25:39
  Like, why obsess over something that I'm not sure is actually gonna change? And, um- Why give something more power than I want to? I think sometimes when you acknowledge a feeling, you're kind of like breathing it, you're giving it life, you're breathing it into existence.
• 26:04
  Whereas if I just kind of ignored it a bit- Mm-hmm and just moved on with my day, um, maybe it wouldn't hold quite so much weight.
• 26:17
  Like maybe I'm giving it more weight than it needs, especially if it's something where everyone feels it, right? Like, okay, well, maybe thinking about it and focusing on it and being obsessed with my shortcomings isn't helping anything.
• 26:32
  I'm, I just like am very much in awe of how some people can move through life, and I know everyone has insecurities and all that, like I get that, but I'm always in awe of how some people are able to just kind of take their insecurities on the chin and not obsess about them and not be too overly concerned.
• 26:52
  It's like, it's like how I envy people who can like meditate because they can just let their thoughts kind of, you know, they can just kinda shoo them away.
• 27:02
  You know? They don't...
• 27:03
  They float there, and they see them, they acknowledge them, and they move on, you know? I've always admired that in people, 'cause I just don't have that ability.
• 27:10
  Anything I feel I, you know, grab onto and can't let go of.
• 27:16
  So it's just a skill that I just don't really have, but I, I envy in other people because I think- I think that they are able to just sort of s- not, not put as much stock into some of the feelings as I do.
• 27:34
  Um, all right.
• 27:37
  Well, I'm gonna wrap this up with a little recommendation corner.
• 27:42
  Um, so the first thing is Substack.
• 27:47
  The first thing I have on my recommendation list is Substack.
• 27:50
  Um, I've been exploring Substack a bit more for a few reasons lately.
• 27:55
  The first being that, um, social media feels so toxic right now.
• 27:59
  I mean, I know of course it is, but it's been awful for years obviously.
• 28:04
  But especially with midterms coming up and the world of idiocracy that we live in now full time, um, I'm just so exhausted by all the noise and the overconsumption and the aesthetics.
• 28:17
  Um, it's really draining.
• 28:19
  So I've been spending more time over at Substack, and it's been really refreshing to spend time getting to know people and brands with more context and substance than just, you know, a one-minute get ready with me video and all the rage baiting and seeing the same news clips and viral videos over and over and over again, just with a different talking head on top of it.
• 28:45
  Um, I just had to step away, I think, a little bit.
• 28:50
  Plus, I know if I wanna grow this podcast, I should be posting on my own socials more, and the more time I spend on social media, the more I feel guilty for not posting more, um, and feeling guilty that I'm not sure what to post.
• 29:04
  So, um, I've just been spending some time on Substack instead, reading essays about people who are moving through the world and their day-to-day lives and what's on their minds, and it's...
• 29:19
  I don't know.
• 29:19
  It's just been refreshing.
• 29:23
  Uh, it's October, so I'm watching lots of fall favorites and spooky movies.
• 29:28
  I love all of that stuff.
• 29:30
  This is one of my favorite times of year.
• 29:33
  Um, this isn't, um, a recommendation yet because I haven't watched them, but I wanted to share some of the new movies and shows that I'm looking forward to watching this October.
• 29:46
  Um, the first is Teenage Sex and Death at Camp Miasma.
• 29:51
  Um, it stars Gillian Anderson, who I love so much.
• 29:56
  Dana Scully is one of my favorite female characters of all time.
• 29:59
  I bet Dana Scully has never had to deal with imposter syndrome, um, 'cause she's a badass.
• 30:07
  Um, it's about a director who was hired for a new installment of the slasher franchise Camp Miasma And she's obsessed with, um, casting Gillian Anderson's character who played the Final Girl in the original film.
• 30:27
  Um, it's been described as surrealist, uh, psychological romance slasher.
• 30:33
  Um, so I'm in.
• 30:36
  The other one is Other Mommy, uh, starring Jessica Chastain.
• 30:40
  I've heard that it's full of jump scares, and I love a good jump scare movie, so I wanna see that.
• 30:49
  The other thing that I wanna watch is called You know, I think I I think I have the name wrong, but I think it's called Crystal Lake.
• 30:59
  Um, and it's a prequel TV show based on Friday the 13th, which I love, love, love.
• 31:07
  Um, it's all about Mrs.
• 31:08
  Voorhees' origin story, I think.
• 31:10
  So that's coming out on Hulu, I think, and stars Linda Cardellini, who I've loved since Freaks and Geeks, so I'm really excited to watch that.
• 31:19
  Um, yeah, so I mean, that's it for this week.
• 31:22
  Um, I hope you join me back here next Thursday.
• 31:25
  My word of the week for this week is curious.
• 31:29
  All right, we'll see you then.
• 31:31
  Bye.