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Hey, everybody, it's Jeff. We wanted to let you know we recorded
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this podcast episode on Tuesday, January twenty third, twenty twenty four. By
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the time you hear this, some things may have changed, but we hope
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you enjoy the show. All right, everybody, Welcome to Opposition Territory here
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at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast
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show in the world. That's right over ten and a half years strong.
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Thank goodness, we are not previewing anymore Philadelphia Eagles games, Thank goodness.
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It is great to get back into the groove of things after this terrible collapse
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of an Eagle season. As you know, we've talked about it on a
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regular show. Oh but I am looking forward getting into some NBA talk here,
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specifically within the Eastern Conference. We're gonna be taking a look at on
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this Opposition Territory podcast the Boston Celtics, number one team in the East thus
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far, Philadelphia seventy six ers, number three team in the East. I
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mean, over the course of these next few months here, these top teams
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are gonna be jockeying for position for sure, gonna be looking to take out
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the Boston Celtics at least. I know the Bucks and the Sixers for sure,
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as well as some other teams. But we're gonna get into this Celtics
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team what we've been seeing from them as of late. We got a great
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guest, let's get right to it. It is great to have back on
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the show to talk about this Boston Celtics team coming to us from celticsblog dot
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com, Great SB Nation site. And also he's one of the co hosts
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of How About Them Celtics, and I love talking to him about Eastern Conference
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ongoing things that are happening, and again with the Boston Celtics, Jack Simone,
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how you doing, Buddy good? How are you doing, Jeff?
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Thank you for having me on the show again. Yeah, it's great to
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have you. Man. I'm doing okay because I mean, quite frankly,
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the seventy six Ers having a pretty good season. They get rid of James
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Harden and things start clicking. You know, it's amazing. That is how
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most most teams find things. That is, that's how a lot of the
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teams, you know, you get rid of James Harden, things tend to
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trend upwards. I suppose, isn't it incredible, Like it really is incredible.
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You know, you know, you know, whether it's Houston, you
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know, whether it's seventy six Ers, you know Brooklyn, you know,
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you get rid of him, and there seems to be some sort of hope
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at the end of the line when it comes to these teams. So we
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look, man again, it's great to have you on talk about this Celtics
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team, and I'm actually first hoping that you can help give us some outside
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perspective as it pertains to one Joe el Embiid and the season that he is
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actually having, because sometimes sometimes I think I'm too close to it. I
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think my co hosts who come on our regular show are too close to it
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sometimes, even though they give pretty good, you know, objective type of
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opinions here. But like, my gosh, what he did last night putting
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up seventy points. He's just having an amazing season, and we just didn't
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necessarily think, I think in Sixers Nation when the season was starting that we
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would see this type of play from him on the court necessarily. So as
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somebody who covers these Celtics, you know, you're looking at what's going on
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with the East, various players in the East. What are your thoughts on
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Joel Embiid and how he's performed this season. Yeah, I mean, seventy
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points is ridiculous. That is it would be hard for me not to start
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there. Seventy points in the game is absolutely absurd. Taking two three pointers
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yeah, Like, I mean he made one, Like, how what are
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you supposed to do with that? How are you supposed to defend that?
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Yeah, And he's been incredible. He's been a top three player in the
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league, if not the best player in the league, probably the most dominant
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scorer we've seen since take your pay Like, it's incredible what he's doing on
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the court this season. He deserves a ton of credit and stuff I've been
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hearing a lot, and that I agree with is he deserves credit for his
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playmaking a lot too this season that I don't think he gets enough absolutely fair
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share for. Yeah, he's been awesome. The Sixers are obviously great and
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Max he deserves a lot of credit for that too, but without him,
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they're not what they are. Thirty I laugh for your time to look at
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his stats. Thirty six eleven and a half and six assists on those shooting
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splits. Yeah, it's absurd. It's it's just insane what he's doing plus
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a career not a career high, but to one point nine blocks a game.
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Like, he's one of the best two way players in the league.
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He's arguably the best offensive player in the league. He's easily, in my
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opinion, the best scorer in the league. It's just a matter of and
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I'm sure you guys talk about this in here all the time, like he
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doing the playoffs like like, that's just what it comes to in terms of
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in terms of regular season play, he's probably the best player in the league.
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Although there is that pesky sixty five game requirement for the awards that he's
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pressing up upon right now. Absolutely very pesky. Yes, it's very pesky.
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And you know, when it does come to the Sixers, you know,
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they won six in a row. As of us recording this right now,
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you know, three and a half games behind the Celtics, the third
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in the East. A lot of stuff is clicking for this team on the
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court. But like you just said, you know, you know that pesky
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little thing to the back of our minds here. If the postseason was starting,
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say next week, Jack, how concerned would you be about the Sixers
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if they would were to face the Boston Celtics, if they were to have
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to face each other in the postseason, Say again, if the postseason started
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next week, what's your level of concern And from a postseason standpoint, do
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you think they would scare you? Again here at the end of January,
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as we're looking into February, what are your thoughts. I would say,
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if you gave a fear level from like one to ten, yes, I'd
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say maybe like a four. Okay, which is it's not it's not it's
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not a reflection of how like good or bad Joel Embiid is. But like,
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historically speaking, the Celtics are one of the very few teams who have
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had an answer for Joel Embid Absolutely, and the answer being the one the
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Sixers tried to steal from the Celtics, and Al Horford and also Drew Holliday
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has guarded him very well this season. So they've had guys that they can
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throw at Joel Embiid, they've guarded him well. The talent level there is,
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I would argue, like just the depth of Celtics have I think is
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a little bit better. And then Tyres MAXI the Sixers second best player and
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a clear All Star this year hasn't exactly played very well against the Celtics either.
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I think it'll be a little different with him as the second option.
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We'll so we'll see what he could do there and we'll see how he performs
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in really his first postseason as that bona fide like secondary score on a champion,
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hippope ful team. But I just think with the history there in the
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postseason, with how well the Celtics have played the played the Sixers, and
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honestly, I'm I think the Sixers will be more difficult to knock out this
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year than they have in other years. But if you ask a lot of
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Celtics fans and you just go on Celtics Twitter, they would rather play the
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Sixers than probably five out of the other six top seven seats in the West.
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And I think it's just because, like there is that baseline of they've
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never even like they've never beaten exactly Like why president here, Yeah, there's
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precedent for that. I mean why again, as an outside perspective on this,
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why is it that the Celtics continually you know, I'll use the I'll
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use the phrase quote own the Sixers at times. I mean, is it
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I mean, is it just one on one matchups? Coaching? What do
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you think it is why the Celtics usually get the best of the Philadelphia seventy
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six ers when when we when we see these type of matchups, and we
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have in the past, I think a lot of it is just the matchup
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of Al Horford defense Joel Embiid very well, and now you have Drew Holliday
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too, who has been defending centers all season at at a high level,
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and so they have one of the best defensive setups in the league to guard
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Embiad, especially when you factor in the fact that you'll have Al on him,
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and if Al get switched off, you can put a smaller guy on
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him. And it's not the perfect, you know, one to one comparison,
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But last year was Grant Williams and this year can beat your Holliday and
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you know, smaller defender guarding him, and then you just send help and
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then you force other guys to beat you. And in years passage, don't
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think the Sixers have had the best other guys quote unquote that can beat you,
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like PJ. Tucker maybe not making his threes or some other guys not
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making their threes in the past, and that's why I think the Sixers are
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almost a little bit better set up this year to beat them because I think
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they have weirdly enough, even though they traded James Harden, I feel like
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they have a more well rounded supporting cast. Like Dnt Melton played really one
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in the playoff last year. I think he'll be good. I think Tobias
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Harris is having a much better season this year. I think whoever they can
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trade for will play well. Nick Buttoom has been awesome, yes from three
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for the Sixers this year, and Maxi's taking that massive leap, so I
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don't think it'll necessarily be as easy. But I also think a part of
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it is just like the Sixers know they always lose to the Celtics, like
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this, This is not like some secret like they know in their head and
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be going on here. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean it's been years since
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the quote, but Embiid was like, this isn't a rivalry. They always
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beat us, like yeah in kinder words, Yeah, and you know he
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still knows that because it's still true, Like they beat him last year,
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they've beat him in years past. There is just this hump, and every
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regular season the Sixers beat the Celtics once or twice and fans are like,
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oh, we're back, and then the playoffs come around and like, nope,
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no, it's the same stuff. Yeah happens, And so I do
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think part of that is that mental like they know what happens. But I
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think the bigger parties like they just have the best defensive infrastructure to slow down
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em Beid. Yeah, folks, you know we've been talking sports psychology on
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this podcast in recent weeks, especially as it pertains to the Philadelphia Eagles.
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I think it's something we need to keep in mind as it pertains to the
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seventy six ers teams. It pertains too this you know, quote rivalry between
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the Sixers and Celtics. So I'm sure we're gonna be getting into that more
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on this podcast platform in the future. But as we're moving along here,
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Jack, you know, the star power of the Celtics, I mean it's
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obvious. You know, see, we got some really good starters playing up
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in Boston here, and we knew they'd be cooking on all cylinders this season.
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But there were some questions as far as depth and as far as what
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this sixers bench was going to be and you even mentioned, you know,
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the depth just a couple minutes ago, and that depth has really become somewhat
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of a strength for the Celtics, you know, when they have needed it.
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So I'm wondering if you can talk about what we've been seeing in terms
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of the Celtics depth and how certain pieces may be important for the team down
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the stretch here. Yeah, of course. So obviously, like you said,
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the starting lineup is the starting lineup, it's five all star caliber players
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who all of whom, if they were the third option or second option on
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the team, could be an all rights. Yes, your holiday dear,
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And I'll even I'll throw Al Horford in this because as much as you want
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to say bench guy, like he's a starting caliber player who's just their stay,
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which is Yeah, I was talking about it on our podcast last night,
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like that is a crazy luxury to have. Yep, that the Celtics
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luckily past that. Sam Hauser has been awesome this season, shooting forty percent
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from deep on five and a half attempts a game. He's like third or
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fourth on the Celtics in three point attempts a game in twenty minutes, like
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he just he gets in that game, he is shooting at three and it
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doesn't matter if it's contested, and a lot of them go in, and
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so he's been awesome. He's also been like a very very good defender this
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year, which is not something you see a lot. I asked Joe Missoula
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a couple of weeks ago and he said, straight up, he goes,
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yeah, he's a white guy, so you probably didn't think he can defend,
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but he's been able to defend forever. And he's been really good and
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a lot of teams end up like in the Rockets game specifically, they were
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sending you know, Jabari Smith, they were sending Dylan Brooks just one on
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one, like, oh, I beat this guy, and then it was
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just like terrible shots because he's a good defender. So they call it Howser
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Island, and he's been able to sort of shut people down from that perspective.
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Peyton Pritchard, fresh off his contract extension this summer, has been great
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for them as well. He's averaging eight three and three, shooting well from
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the field in from three. He's just been a solid tertiary point guard behind
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Drew Holliday and Derek White, like he's just doing everything they need him.
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He started off the season slow shooting, but he's picked it up, shooting
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around thirty eight percent now from deep. But he's averaging three point three rebounds
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and three assists sneakily also one of the best like offensive rebounding guards in the
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league for some reason, like he's just crashing the class, which is super
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fun. That's probably Oh and then Luke Cornett. Luke Cornett gets a terrible
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rep. If you ask like half of Celtics nation, they will absolutely hate
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him. But he has been awesome this season. He has been a great
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defender, he has been a great offensive rebounder, he has been a great
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screener. He's doing all the little things the Celtics need from him. So
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he gets a ton of flak from Celtics fans who want to see nimiash Keida,
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who is one of the Celtics two ways guys who is good but just
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not quite as defensively sound as Cornett. They want to see him get some
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more minutes. But Cornett has been like a rock for the Celtics and past
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that you probably won't see much else in the playoffs. So shaper set's been
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solid. It's been a really good rebounder and a good cutter and he did
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finish her around the rim. But I think that about covers the Celtics depth,
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which I mean to the season was very questionable for them. Yeah,
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very questionable. It's uh, it's been nails. It's been very good.
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It really has been. And it seems like every single piece of the depth
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for the Celtics, they they have some sort of role to play and that
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role hasn't necessarily just tapered off or dropped off a cliff. It's been consistent
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and I think that's really been the key for this team as well. And
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again, folks, we're talking to Jack Simone at Jacksimone NBA on Twitter,
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Celtics blog dot com, and he's co host of how About Them Celtics,
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Great great podcast, And uh, I kind of want to get into some
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you know, underrated aspects of this team and also some weaknesses too here Jack,
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because I'm wondering, you know, which player you know looking at this
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from Okay, seventy six ers third in the East right now, they're wanting
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to really you know, you know, make make even more noise if they
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possibly can and and it is you know, gonna be targeting some weaknesses,
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uh, but also making sure that the underrated aspects of this Celtics team may
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may not get their fair share or get their due. So I'm wondering which
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player or even what aspect of this Celtics team have really been the most underrated
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here this season? Essentially, you know what part of the team hasn't necessarily
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gotten the love maybe they deserve. I'm going to go to not a player.
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I think Joe Mizula deserves a lot more credit. Okay, this season
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has gone for the Celtics. Yeah, he got a lot of criticism obviously
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in the postseason last year when the Celtics went down three er to the Heat.
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They brought it back. They did, losing seven, but like,
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it's not like it was a sweep, right, And the first season he
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talked to he won on the JJ Redick Pot at the start of the year
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and he said, last year I was thrown into the fire. I mean
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you have to remember he was brought on board as the Celtics head coach in
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October, like a week out from training camp and resports, Like, yeah,
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here's a staff that is not yours, it's the past coaches. Here's
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a team that you know was built for another coach that was going to coach
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this team. Here is you know, a guy who was this you know,
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a second bench guy, like behind the first row. We're gonna put
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him in as the head coach because you know he's you know, familiar with
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the players. And he was just like, yeah, I really just relied
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a lot on the talent on that team because we had a really good team
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and I didn't fully know what I was doing, Like, I, what
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do you want for me? Like yeah, And so he's been a lot
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more open and honest this year. One of the big things was he said
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something along the lines of last year, I didn't emphasize defense a lot because
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in my mind, as a guy who was always, you know, a
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hard nosed defender in college, it was just a given that you should play
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hard on defense. But I guess I have to actually tell the players that.
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And so he's been which is just an all time quote, and like
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it makes it makes some sense because he like from his perspective, he's just
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like, yeah, just play hard on defense. It's not that difficult.
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And you know, a lot more this year of Celtics have broken out a
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two one two zone. They've gone a lot of you know, free safety
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defense with Drew Holliday or KP playing off the ball. They've done a lot
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of Drew Holliday. He's been challenged to be the quarterback so he can like
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help over no matter what, like he has the freedom to move. They've
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done a lot of you know, Tatum guarding Shay Luca was guarded by JB
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last night. They switched a lot of stuff up. So yeah, he's
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emphasized a lot of defensive things this year. Offensively, he was able to
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bring in a new coaching staff, so Chounsey Phillips is on the team.
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Charles Lee is on the team on the coach staff former Celtic Phil Pressey.
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He brought in some other guys as well. They focused a lot more on
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post ups. Tatum and Jalen are getting into the post ups. Jalen Brown
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is getting out in transition and focusing on getting his buckets there more and speeding
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up the tempo. Derek White is running a ton of pick and rolls with
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Porzingis and Tatum even and Tatum and Derek White are screening for each other like
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KP's getting a lot of post ups. Cornette and Derek White have run a
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really nice too many game, Like there's so many intricate things that I think
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Joe Mazzola doesn't get credit for because of how talented this team is on paper,
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But he truly has been awesome this season, not only with the on
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court stuff and running this basketball team, just the way he's presented himself and
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talked with the media. Like he came in the media room after a game
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like last week, he just looks at Bobby Manning, who's a reporter for
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Sealed, as he goes, are you we're gonna tie? And he goes
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yeah. He's just like starts joking with the media like he's just so much
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more comfortable this year, which is is not something you knew you got last
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year from him. Like he would say on the JJ Redcott, he goes,
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when I was an assistant, I would take the service elevator up here,
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go to the film room, and take it back down so I wouldn't
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have to talk to anybody. He was the most introverted guy. He just
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wanted to work. He just wanted to talk about basketball, and so I
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think it took him a year to open up and get comfortable in the role,
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and now that he is, he's it's very fun and it's very good
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to see. You look at Joe Sozola, and you take a look at
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Nick Nurse too, and I'll tell you right now, these are two coaches
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where that contingency of NBA fans that say coaching really doesn't matter that much,
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where it's the superstars and it's the talent on the court that's really gonna get
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the job done. I'm sorry, Joezola, Nick Nurse. You see what
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has happened with these teams when you have new leadership as your head coach and
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new coaching philosophies to coach amazing talent on the field. You see what's happened
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with Joel Embiid actually better than his MVP season last year, Tyrese Maxi developing
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the way he has. You've just analyzed what has been happening with this Celtics
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team and how Joe Mazzula has brought a new philosophy to this crew over the
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course of now over a year. Coaching absolutely matters, and I think these
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two gentlemen here in twenty twenty four, Jack absolutely put to rest that notion
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amongst certain fans that coaching really doesn't matter in the NBA. Definitely. I
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mean Nick Nurse has been awesome in Philly this year. He deserves credit for
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that. That team's playing regardless of Joe Embiid's thirty six points tonight. Yeah,
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he's great. I will say a lot of At least my co host
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Sam as not the biggest Nick Nurse fan, only because he hates the it's
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the now famous mouth, the gape complaining about the call, Like what do
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you mean, like the now wide open, Like, yeah, that is
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iconic Nick Nurse. Yeah, but you can't you count doubt his talent as
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a head coach. He's awesome, absolutely, all right. Well, as
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we're moving along here, as I mentioned, kind of wanted to get into
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maybe what where the Celtics maybe a little bit vulnerable here. You know,
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we're talking about the depth before, how it has become a strength. We
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thought initially during the early parts of the season that it could be a liability
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for the Celtics. What do you think is taking its place in terms of
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what might actually be the biggest weakness of the Celtics team. I think it's
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the same thing that has kind of caught up to them in recent years.
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They get in their own way a lot. It hasn't been nearly as relevant
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this season, but you've seen it pop up a few times over the past
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few games. The Denver game, they lost one or two one hundred.
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They scored I think it was four points in the last five minutes of the
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game. You're just not gonna win basketball games like that, right. Their
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offense completely went out the window. They slowed things down, they lost the
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flow. They got good shots, right, Me and Sam did a sort
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of like breakdown. We looked at all their shots in the fine to five
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minutes, and they were all fine shots, but just they slowed down the
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tempo and they stopped playing the offense that got them to that point in the
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first place. You saw in the Houston game too. They ended up pointing
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the same thing with the Dallas game, but they just sort of slow down
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their offense and play a different style and sort of try to, like NBA
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games naturally slow down towards the end, and that's not the brand of basketball
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that suits the Celtics, and so they sort of give into that and then
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take their foot off the gas. The Indiana game they got again caught up
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and playing a style that doesn't suit them. Indiana is very we're going to
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run, We're only gonna play offense. And the Celtics, while they do
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thrive in transition as much as you don't want to slow the game down completely,
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they love getting into the half court, finding mismatches and attacking them and
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then zipping the ball around from there. The Indiana game was just run,
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run, run, score, score score, and if you're getting a shootout
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with the Pacers, you're gonna lose. It's just like how it works.
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And so that's what they got caught up in in that one. The Milwaukee
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game, they got blown up by thirty. Weirdly enough, that is,
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in my opinion, the least concerning loss of the season. Sometimes you just
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don't have it. And it was so clear the Celtics just weren't going to
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make shots. Anomaly. Yeah, yeah, Bobby Porters was making contested three
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pointers. You lose, sorry, that's whatever. But then in the OKC
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game, like third quarters have been another thing that thats have for some reason
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killed the Celtics this year, Like they just lose third quarters and when you
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come out of the second half and the other team can get that momentum.
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Like you can go into halftime up ten, but if the other team wins
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the third quarter by eight, you go to the fourth up two, you
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don't have momentum and that other team is going to be able to build on
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that. And so I think the third quarter has been a big one,
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although they've solved it at times, but it's kind of trickling its way back
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into the fold. And then just the inability to consistently perform on offense.
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I think it is what could catch up to them this season because they've been
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a lot better offensively this year. I think they've stuck to their game plan,
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they've gotten good shots, and they've been able to attack miss matches this
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year, but they too many times have they settled for bad shots in the
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wrong moment, or they've slowed down the pace too much, or they've you
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know, played the wrong brand that doesn't suit them to try to match the
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moment of the game. They just have to put their head down focused on
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doing what's right for them offensively, and I think they'll be all right.
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But yeah, all right, I think that would be the biggest thing they
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could get in their way, all right, Very good. Well. To
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close us out here, I'm wondering what your top three biggest concerns are for
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the Celtics as we're getting ready to head into February here is we're staring down
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the trade deadline and as the top teams in the East are really jocking for
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position here, what are those top three biggest concerns for you as we close
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out our discussion here, Jack, Good question. I think number one is
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what I just said, like the inability for them to just play their brand
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of basketball. Like I said, too often they get caught up in trying
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to match the other team or trying to slow down because the game calls for
22:45
just play the brand of basketball. That has led to the dominance that has
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been shown this season by the Celtics, because when they do, they've been
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awesome. Two Weirdly enough, and this was sort of I don't know the
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quick word for it. They like they fixed this in the MAVs game last
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night. As we're recording this, I think they too often get caught up
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in Jason or Jalen Brown, Jason Tatimer, Jaylen Brown have to be the
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guy in the final five minutes, like they have to score, but no
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one else that's to do it. Like in the in the Rockets game,
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I think it was Porzingis and Derek White led the team in shots and they
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won because those guys were awesome. And so I think the Celtics have to
23:22
be more comfortable just letting anybody make a play because Porzingis is an All Star.
23:26
Derek White, my opinion, is an All Star. Giliday was an
23:30
All Star last year. Like as on the team, there's tons of stars
23:34
on the tam there's out of other guys that can do things. Yeah,
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Kristaps Porzingis might be the most unguardable player in the NBA because of the talent
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around him. Because you can't double him. You put him in the post.
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He's seven foot three. He's been awesome in those post moves. He's
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shooting. Let me let me see, he's shooting sixty five percent from two
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this year. I'm pretty sure. Sure he's shooting like seventy percent in the
23:53
paint. Like, you can't stop him because you can't double him in because
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the Celtics are putting him in great spots like Shengun was guarding him and he
24:02
would either drag him to the three point line and get an open three because
24:04
Shingun's trying to drop, or you know, Shangun would drop or follow him
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to three point line, and the Celtics have an open lane. Derek wh
24:11
had an open layup, or they'd put Jalen Green on. I'm trying to
24:15
be cute, and Porzingos just post him up and do nothing. So I
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think getting more comfortable with having other guys close games is important. Although you
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want the best player to have the ball, but still, yea, I
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think they should be more comfortable with having them. And I'm sure you saw
24:27
this coming. Top three concern just please stay healthy, knock on the good
24:33
every time, like Porzingis and a Orford and whoever. Just if they can
24:37
stay healthy for the playoffs, please, Like Porzingis was out with knee inflammation
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against the MAVs last night. Good please, it's fine. Let him his
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knee be inflamed. Quote unquote, Yeah, keep him healthy for March,
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April, May, June and we'll be good. So I'll go with those
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threes my top three. If Joe El Embiid is healthy during the playoffs,
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I honestly believe we could see a Celtics sixers Eastern Conference Final I actually do
25:02
believe that. I think it's very very possible. Again, all comes down
25:04
to health. So at the end of the day, folks, you gotta
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follow Jack on Twitter at Jack Simone NBA if you are over there, how
25:14
about them Celtic's podcast and also celticsblog dot com. Jack, you are always
25:18
so wonderful and gracious to come on the PST podcast show here. Thank you
25:22
so much, buddy, Come on back down the road. I'd love to
25:26
talk to you again, my friend, anytime. I appreciate you having me
25:30
And as I said last time, shout out the Jason Kelsey. Jason Kelsey
25:33
still like my favorite. Oh there and listen, listen. I will also
25:37
say, I know it is now like it's become like not cool to say
25:41
that because of the whole podcast, and he's like, oh, he's over
25:42
popular now. I want it on record that I said it on this podcast
25:45
a long time ago, any right, like this was this was a well
25:48
backed thing that I have been on record saying I would love Jason Kelsey.
25:52
I love it. We even did a bit, We even did a bit
25:55
on our We even did a bit probably about a month ago, Jack,
25:56
where we were just saying you know what, we're actually kind of getting tired
26:00
of it. It's like, we love it, you know, we love
26:02
the Philadelphia brand getting out there, but man, it was getting to be
26:06
a little it was getting out little much. I like hearing that from somebody,
26:08
somebody to make sure that it was on record that I was I beat
26:11
the hype, you know, I was. I was here before the hype.
26:15
Absolutely. Well, let's you know, let's talk more NBA at some
26:18
point down the road, Jack, I'd love to have you back on my
26:21
friend anytime. Thanks for having me. Good times talking with Jack. I
26:26
absolutely love his take on Jason Kelsey, the whole Kelsey phenomenon. I'd love
26:30
to talk to him more about that at some point down the road. But
26:33
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