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The Twot Seat: STACEY RUSCH (RHOP) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and cam
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  Speaker 1: Ridge Edge.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Stacy, Hi, First of all, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for joining me today.
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  Speaker 3: I know Teddy would have loved to be here to
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  Speaker 3: talk to.
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  Speaker 4: You, and I'm thinking of her and praying for her.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, just really hoping for the best for her
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  Speaker 5: and her family. I'm following along just like everyone, so
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  Speaker 5: sending prayers to her as much as I can.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. All the prayers are needed, please everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Amen?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So, how let's just before we get into the
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  Speaker 2: TJ of it all, let's just talk about this season
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Sure, how are you feeling now that
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  Speaker 2: the season is over?
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  Speaker 5: You know, this has been a wild ride, Like think
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  Speaker 5: about your first season as a housewife.
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  Speaker 4: For sure, you know you're having a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 5: You're learning a lot, not only about the dynamics within
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  Speaker 5: the group of each individual woman, but you're also you know,
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  Speaker 5: learning about yourself. I feel like I've grown up a
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  Speaker 5: lot one season. I know that's like quite dramatic, but no.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's all I feel.
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  Speaker 2: But that's good because I always say there's two types
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  Speaker 2: of housewives. There's housewives to watch themselves and go.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, damn.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really like that part of me, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to change it. And there's other ones that just
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  Speaker 2: don't even see it. So if you're growing from it,
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  Speaker 2: that's a positive.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm definitely growing from this experience.
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  Speaker 2: Now you came from QVC prior, as I'm sure there's
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  Speaker 2: a huge difference between QVC and Housewives.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, it's so different.
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  Speaker 5: Like QVC is you know, the epitome of working at Disneyland,
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  Speaker 5: you know, like we And when I say we, I'll
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  Speaker 5: say that because I used to be a part of
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  Speaker 5: the host team.
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  Speaker 4: But it really is about like spreading love.
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  Speaker 5: And joy and helping people with products that can improve
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  Speaker 5: their lives. And there's preparation and you're studying, and you
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  Speaker 5: want to make sure that you know, you're connecting to
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  Speaker 5: the viewers. It's a it's emotional work and I feel
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  Speaker 5: like with the Housewives it's also emotional work, but in
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  Speaker 5: a completely different way.
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  Speaker 4: And the perks way unprepared. You're totally unprepared.
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  Speaker 5: There's nothing to study there. It's impossible. You just have
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  Speaker 5: to be yourself and sort of ride the way.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, did you leave QVC to do Housewives.
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  Speaker 3: Or were you already done with QVC.
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  Speaker 5: So when I decided to leave QVC, it was primarily
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  Speaker 5: because I was going through a divorce.
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  Speaker 4: No one knew. I'm a very private person, says the
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  Speaker 4: person on reality TV. But I didn't tell anyone about
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  Speaker 4: my divorce. And so.
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  Speaker 5: At the time, I knew that I wanted to come
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  Speaker 5: back to the DC area because my daughter needed that.
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  Speaker 5: It was a really big transition for us to be
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  Speaker 5: living in Philly because when I was working for QVC,
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  Speaker 5: we had to live in Philadelphia. So I knew that
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  Speaker 5: my daughter needed to be home. I knew that my
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  Speaker 5: daughter needed to be.
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  Speaker 4: Surrounded by friends and family.
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  Speaker 5: So it was almost as if, you know, God made
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  Speaker 5: it so that it was perfect timing and gave me
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  Speaker 5: this opportunity to come home and start the show. So
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  Speaker 5: my daughter got to come home, I could finish things
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  Speaker 5: with my divorce and then start this incredible journey on
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  Speaker 5: this crazy show.
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  Speaker 3: How did you get cast for Housewives?
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  Speaker 5: So I was cast by a wonderful man. But there
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  Speaker 5: was a casting agent that I've known four years. I've
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  Speaker 5: known him for about five or six years and we've
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  Speaker 5: always kept in touch. And like I said, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: It was divine timing. He called me and said, hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know, how are things going with you?
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  Speaker 4: Like what are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, oh my gosh, this is happening.
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  Speaker 5: This is happening. And he was like, stop, you got
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  Speaker 5: to come on the show.
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  Speaker 3: And how did you know? Did you know any of
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  Speaker 3: the housewives?
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  Speaker 4: Yes? Yes, you know.
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  Speaker 5: You know, DC is really small, especially when you talk
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  Speaker 5: about the social circle that I'm in, So I had
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  Speaker 5: met a lot of the women.
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  Speaker 4: Just socially at parties.
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  Speaker 5: I had already met Ashley and Giselle and Wendy. Wendy
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  Speaker 5: and I served together on a board for a charitable organization,
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  Speaker 5: so I knew a lot of the ladies socially. I
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  Speaker 5: knew a casting agent. It was just it was a
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  Speaker 5: very easy transition for me. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 5: people say that, a lot of people are like, wow,
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  Speaker 5: it just seems like you're such a great fit.
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  Speaker 4: I think because it was the perfect time, the combination of.
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  Speaker 5: Knowing a little bit about the ladies, but not like
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  Speaker 5: knowing everything you know, So it was just perfect.
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  Speaker 2: So now, looking back, you had said that Karen reached
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  Speaker 2: out to you to meet you before you started filming,
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  Speaker 2: do you think she did that to steer you in
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  Speaker 2: certain directions or what was your thought on that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I think it's apparent now having watched the finale episode,
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  Speaker 5: that that's something that she does with a lot of newbies.
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  Speaker 5: So I think she was just taking me out to
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  Speaker 5: welcome me into the group and to talk about things.
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  Speaker 5: As I've said, Karen and I have known each other
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  Speaker 5: for years. I wouldn't say that we were best friends
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  Speaker 5: and we were going out every Friday night for drinks,
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  Speaker 5: but we've known each other for years.
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  Speaker 4: So we decided to get together.
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  Speaker 5: She invited me, and she told me what to expect
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  Speaker 5: from the ladies in the group, or maybe those were
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  Speaker 5: her expectations, but that's something that she does with all
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  Speaker 5: the new girls, So I don't think that that was
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  Speaker 5: Looking back, I think I was one of many newbies
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  Speaker 5: to make it to the tally ho.
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  Speaker 4: You know, having lunch.
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  Speaker 3: That's funny. She takes them all there.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell you this, I see a spark
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  Speaker 2: in your eye every once in a while. Usually you're
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  Speaker 2: very sweet and very kind, but I'm like, oh, Stacy's
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  Speaker 2: gonna snap. She has it in her. She has it
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  Speaker 2: in her, and you did a few times. Now, are
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  Speaker 2: do you think you are the same person on camera
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  Speaker 2: as you are off camera? Did you try to play
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  Speaker 2: it safe when you came in there was rumors that
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  Speaker 2: you were boring and not tough enough to be a housewife.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, uh ah, I see it in her.
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  Speaker 4: I'm at heart.
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  Speaker 5: I am a very kind and loving and compassionate person.
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  Speaker 5: I've said this many times. My life speaks for itself.
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  Speaker 5: I taught yoga for seven years. I've taught all over
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  Speaker 5: the world.
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  Speaker 4: I serve on.
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  Speaker 5: Many organizations to help animals, dogs and people.
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  Speaker 4: I am who I am, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: However, I'm a human being. And you can only laugh
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  Speaker 5: it off and take the jabs and die the jabs
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  Speaker 5: so much, and you have to at some point speak
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  Speaker 5: up for yourself. And so you know, people are like,
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  Speaker 5: oh my goodness, I thought that you are so prim
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  Speaker 5: and proper. I can't believe that you're raising your voice.
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  Speaker 5: I can only take so much. I'm a human being.
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  Speaker 5: And I also think this is my first season. You know, like,
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  Speaker 5: people don't know me. In one season, You're getting to
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  Speaker 5: know me, and you're gonna get to see different sides
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  Speaker 5: of me. This is just the beginning. So when I
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  Speaker 5: get upset, it's because you have pushed me there. I'm
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  Speaker 5: always here.
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  Speaker 2: But if you know, I will absolutely agree, You're not
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  Speaker 2: the person that's going to laughter somebody for no no,
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  Speaker 2: some reason.
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  Speaker 3: If you get pushed, you're going to push right back.
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  Speaker 4: At some point. I'm a human being. I have to
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  Speaker 4: take up for myself. I do have self respect.
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  Speaker 5: For God's sake, you can only take so much, even
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  Speaker 5: as the nice girl.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how did you reach out to Karen after she
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  Speaker 2: went to court?
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  Speaker 4: I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are not on good terms. I take it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, honestly, when you think about the entire season
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  Speaker 5: and all the things that happened with Karen, we did
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  Speaker 5: not end in a good place. But I have a
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  Speaker 5: tremendous amount of respect for Karen and who she is
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  Speaker 5: and the legacy that she has begun to build in
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  Speaker 5: our community beyond Housewives and our community, and with her family.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of things that I know about.
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  Speaker 5: So at this time, despite where we are, I just
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  Speaker 5: want the best for her.
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  Speaker 4: I sincerely want her to.
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  Speaker 5: Heal and get well, and I want her to come
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  Speaker 5: back stronger than ever, because that is what I would
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  Speaker 5: expect from the Grandame. It doesn't matter where we ended
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  Speaker 5: at the season. As of today, I'm standing behind her
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  Speaker 5: to get back to the phenomenal woman I know her
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  Speaker 5: to be.
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  Speaker 2: So the Grandama has said that she wants to ditch
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  Speaker 2: that title and just go by Karen and get wants
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  Speaker 2: people to know who she is. Now, there's been talk
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  Speaker 2: that you guys will start filming pretty soon, and of
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  Speaker 2: course she will not be in this season. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think that it's going to affect the season at all?
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  Speaker 5: I think that Karen has been a part of the
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  Speaker 5: Real Housewives of Potomac brand since it's beginning, and that
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  Speaker 5: is commendable and we love her for that. But I
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  Speaker 5: also feel like our brand is strong and it is,
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  Speaker 5: as you know, an ensemble cast, and I think we
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  Speaker 5: have some really wonderful stories that still need to be
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  Speaker 5: told and shared. So I think that while she heals
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  Speaker 5: and she gets back to herself Karen Huger, I think
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  Speaker 5: that we can hold down the fort YEP.
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  Speaker 3: I think you can.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk about the reunion. So this was your
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  Speaker 2: first reunion. You guys all looked beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: I do. I did like it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Favorite of course, you of course, know, you guys all
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  Speaker 2: look beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: There was a lot of boobs. There was a lot
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  Speaker 3: of boobs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna a lot of Like I just felt
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  Speaker 2: like I needed to push them down a little bit, Like.
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  Speaker 4: It was like bring them out, bring them out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some of y'all looked really uncomfortable, like sitting on
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  Speaker 2: the beads and you know the type.
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  Speaker 4: Something really funny.
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  Speaker 1: M hm.
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  Speaker 4: So do you remember when and Andy wanted to show
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  Speaker 4: me the video? Oh, yes, I do, a tj y and.
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  Speaker 5: We were all I was we were laughing a little
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  Speaker 5: bit after. You know, you can always find laughter even
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  Speaker 5: in the worst moments. But I was saying I couldn't
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  Speaker 5: even get up to sit next to him to look
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  Speaker 5: at the video because I was so snatched.
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  Speaker 4: You know, with the corset and the dress.
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  Speaker 5: So we were all laughing that we all like were
• 11:24
  Speaker 5: glued to our seats because we couldn't move.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it looked like that, say, you guys are beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: It looked really uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 5: Even if I wanted to run off the stage, like
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  Speaker 5: it was impossible.
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  Speaker 4: Girl, I was like glued to that seat. So we
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  Speaker 4: were just laughing about that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, bless your hearts because I could never do that.
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  Speaker 4: I've done like on my.
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  Speaker 5: Skin from the corset, I could show you that I
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  Speaker 5: still have marks, and that was filmed months ago where
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  Speaker 5: it was made of wire flowers.
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  Speaker 4: So it cut into my skin. Oh my god, for
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  Speaker 4: that reunion.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yes you did, You're still bleeding, I think.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, let's talk about your best friend TJ.
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: Sure, Andy did play you the tape showing TJ accusing
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  Speaker 2: you of paying him to be love interest on the show?
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  Speaker 3: Is there any truth to this?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: How where did he come up with us?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are not believing you and thinking
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  Speaker 2: that it's absolutely true that you paid him. He is
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  Speaker 2: a working actor. Did he get confused somehow, thinking like
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna bring me on and somehow you're gonna pay me?
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm I'm okay with not everyone believing me.
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  Speaker 4: That's life.
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  Speaker 5: I'm never I didn't come on this show to win
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  Speaker 5: people over or to have people on my side, or
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  Speaker 5: to be the most popular. I understand that life happens
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  Speaker 5: and everyone's going to have an opinion, especially on a
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  Speaker 5: platform like this, And I don't want to bash TJ
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  Speaker 5: despite what he did and that he betrayed me in
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  Speaker 5: a way that greatly affected me in a way that
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  Speaker 5: I've never been affected in my life. I have not
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  Speaker 5: paid TJ to be my boyfriend in any way. And
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  Speaker 5: when I say boyfriend, I'll say love interest. I know
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  Speaker 5: that on the show we called him my best friend,
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  Speaker 5: and everyone laughed at that and made fun of it. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: I've prayed with this man. He brought me closer to
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  Speaker 5: God through his faith, and through his profound faith, I
• 13:46
  Speaker 5: guess I should say I've prayed with him. He's met
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  Speaker 5: members of my family. We've spent quite a few intense
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  Speaker 5: moments together. And this is someone who I had a
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  Speaker 5: deep connection with. This is someone who I.
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  Speaker 4: Never spoke ill of.
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  Speaker 5: I've only said the positive things and the positive blessings
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  Speaker 5: that he brought to my life. And I didn't do
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  Speaker 5: that because I was following a script. I didn't do
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  Speaker 5: that because I'm a liar or I'm a fraud. I
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  Speaker 5: spoke highly of him because that is who I thought
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  Speaker 5: he was.
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  Speaker 4: So when it was brought to my.
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  Speaker 5: Attention in front of the world that he said that
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  Speaker 5: I paid him, knowing that he knew what that would
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  Speaker 5: imply about me, right, knowing that he said that, knowing
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  Speaker 5: that it would hurt me, knowing that I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: have to, you know, defend this and come on and explain.
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  Speaker 2: Why does he want to hurt you? That's what I understand.
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  Speaker 2: Why would he want to hurt you if he's your
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  Speaker 2: best friend.
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  Speaker 4: I think that it was.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was really difficult for him to see
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  Speaker 5: his worst moments and the way that he treated me.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was really hard. He was very upset
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  Speaker 5: with production and the way that he was. He feels
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  Speaker 5: he was portrayed. I think a lot of things that
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  Speaker 5: were said about his behavior at Wendy's birthday party. There
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: were just a lot of things that he did that
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  Speaker 5: were disrespectful, and I think a lot of people saw
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  Speaker 5: that and they wanted to defend me, and he read
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  Speaker 5: those comments. He saw it too, and quite frankly, I
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  Speaker 5: think it was a lot for him, and I think
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  Speaker 5: that the only way to make that go away after
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  Speaker 5: we broke up was to say it wasn't real.
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  Speaker 4: I also think, you know, I hate to.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to ever be the type of person
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  Speaker 5: that says like, well you didn't see this moment or
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  Speaker 5: production did this. Like I accept that my job is
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  Speaker 5: to allow reality to play out and you know this right,
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  Speaker 5: But what you didn't see. There was a moment when
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  Speaker 5: I was with the girls on stage and I said,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Andy said, TJ's not here.
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  Speaker 4: Why is he not here?
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  Speaker 5: I said, well, we broke up. He said, oh, so
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  Speaker 5: you broke up with TJ. You're divorced.
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  Speaker 4: I said, you know what. Yeah, And it feels good
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  Speaker 4: to stand on my own. It feels good to be here,
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  Speaker 4: Justice Dacy. I don't need anybody. I'm so confident.
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  Speaker 5: I feel so good, and I just think it's so
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  Speaker 5: ironic when I chose to stand on my own this happened.
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  Speaker 4: I just think I'm not the first or the last
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  Speaker 4: woman that this will happen to.
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  Speaker 5: I think for me, it's quite obvious how this is
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  Speaker 5: playing out.
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  Speaker 3: How long did you know him?
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  Speaker 4: I'm about two years, okay, two two years.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it's possible that he used you to
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  Speaker 2: get on TV?
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  Speaker 5: A lot of people say that, a lot of people
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  Speaker 5: seem to think that I.
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  Speaker 4: Was wanting more of a relationship.
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  Speaker 5: And when I say wanting more of a relationship, I
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  Speaker 5: want to say that our plan together was to try
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  Speaker 5: to be in an intimate relationship after my divorce.
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  Speaker 4: Was final finalized.
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  Speaker 5: That was our plan, and I think I was so
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: excited about that, and I think he was so excited
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  Speaker 5: to be a part of rhop and be on camera.
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  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I think so too.
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  Speaker 5: But you don't see things when you're in it. You know,
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  Speaker 5: It's what can I do? No, I get to know
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  Speaker 5: about you. But like for my first season watching the show,
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: after you filmed for months and they put it all together,
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: it was hard for me.
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  Speaker 4: There were a lot of things that I forgot.
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  Speaker 5: There were a lot of moments that I had to relive,
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  Speaker 5: like you know, when I was at Wendy's birthday party
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  Speaker 5: and to see him.
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  Speaker 4: Act that way.
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  Speaker 5: It you know, my mother called me and said, Hey,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: is everything okay?
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  Speaker 4: Is this man? What is going on? That was hard
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  Speaker 4: for me?
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  Speaker 3: Was your breakup bad?
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  Speaker 2: Were you guys when you broke up? Were you still talking?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Was it did it get dirty?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Was there anything?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: And that's what's so surprising for me. No, we ended with.
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: I thought that we ended things with a mutual respect
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: for each other. I said that I needed time. He
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: knew before a lot of other people knew when my
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: divorce would be final. And I said, you know, I
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: think you are fantastic, but I just need like a moment,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: I was like, I got to catch my breath.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I moved from Philadelphia, quitting a job that I love
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: to take care of my daughter. I started the show.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: I had to figure out how to find my feet
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: with these women, the filming schedule, our relationship, a divorce
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: from a man that I was married to for sixteen years.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I said to him, you know, I think you're fantastic
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: and I think there's a future, but I just need to.
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: Breathe can you give me a moment?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: And then he said those things at the reunion.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I was totally caught off guard.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: He gave you a moment, and I do think that
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: he gave me a moment. He gave you a moment.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: And he also put suspicion out there that you were
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: paying him. Now, let me just tell you this. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: did see a lot of comments on Instagram saying that
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: prior to him saying that, do you think that he
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: read those and thought, ah, I'm going to bring this up.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Another thing is why did they call him? Do you
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: think this was planned?
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: We talked in depth about what people were saying about
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: the show.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I'm going to keep it completely real with you.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: We as soon as the show aired and people started
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: making comments about him and their perception of the way
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: that he treated me. He and I looked at comments
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: and we were like, wow, oh my gosh, this is awful.
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: And he was furious about the way he thought production
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: portrayed him. And I said, you know, I don't know
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: what to say about this. I think that, like, these
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: are things that happened the camera and our MIC's caught them,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: and I think we have to try to work through this.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know that he could work through it. I
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: think it was that hard for him. I really, I'm
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: being honest. I think it was really difficult for him.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: And I know people are probably like, why do you
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: care about him? Why don't you talk about yourself. I'm
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: just coming to you with truth and trying to give
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: you an idea of my perspective of the way things
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: played out. But we were very much aware of what
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: people were saying. There was a hashtag free Stacy on Twitter,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: you know. So there were a lot of things that
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: happened behind closed doors, and there were a lot of
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: things that came to light on camera, and it was
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: hard for me to relive those moments.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: It was really difficult.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, especially your first year, you're like, whoa this is?
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: You know, total shock to the body.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Are you worried that TJ will fabricate or attempt to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: show receipts? And if he does do something like that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and you are set in your truth, what will you do?
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: I can't worry about what he will do.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Do you think he will?
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't. I don't I honestly, I
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I haven't called him since the conversation that we had
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: after the reunion where he was very remorseful and he
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: wanted to publicly apologize, and there were a lot of
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: people that wanted him to do that, and there were
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: a lot of people who said I would be crazy
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: to allow him one more moment of camera time.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Quite frankly, would you want him to publicly apologize to you,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: even if it's on his social media, to take some
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: account of ability?
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: You know what I want for TJ? I want TJ
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: to have the life that he deserves.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I am so.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Grateful to have had this experience. My daughter is healthy
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: and well. I am home in Virginia. My life is
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: so full right now. My best friends were with me
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: when I was filming watch What Happens Live. I don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: wish ill for TJ. I don't worry about what he's
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: going to do. It's not my lie to disprove. I
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: don't have to fix anything. I can stand in my
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: truth and who I am.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: I am. My life speaks for itself, and my life
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: is blessed. God is good. I can't worry about other people.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I think I who live like that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: A lot of people do, a lot of people they
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: do yes, And I would have to say it takes
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a really big, strong person to be like, say whatever
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you want about me. I don't care because I know
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: my truth and I don't care what other people are
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: saying about me.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: My husband is like that hundred percent. He's like, I
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: don't care. Is that their opinion can't matter to me nothing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I'm getting that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I'm getting to that point where I'm like, I, you
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: know what doesn't really bother me what other people think,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: especially on this platform, because you could be given away
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars and doing charities and people will still
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: find something to pick on you.
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: I am okay with people believing TJ. I am okay
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: with people saying, oh, I'm not a fan of hers.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Do you know what I use to concentrate on.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I concentrate on, you know, Opening my phone this morning
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: and reading message is like, Stacy, You're a breath of
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: fresh air.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: We stand by you.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: Stacy. Don't let this stop you. Please come back next
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: next season.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: I love so much fun.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: I focus on good. I don't focus on negativity, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: how can I My life isn't like that, and I
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: have a pretty great life because I have not chosen
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: to focus on things like that. Well, when you're sometimes
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: worried about him, I'm not worried about people who don't
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: believe me, even people on the show.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: You know, I I am the girls, And yeah, the
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: girls didn't seem to believe you, and I will agree
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: with that, because when you focus on negativity, negativity comes
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: into your.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Life and that isn't anything any of us want. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the girls did not believe you. How did you leave?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Who are you talking to? Who are you not talking to?
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: On the show?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: I've spoken to everyone on the show, and I have
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: had conversations about how to move forward. Some people have
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: voiced their opinion to say I don't believe you. Some
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: people have voiced their opinions and said, it doesn't matter.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Everyone feels differently, and I don't want to speak for them.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I think that I'll allow them to speak for themselves.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: I won't do that, but I'll say this to you,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: as I've said to my friends on the show. If
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: you choose not to believe me, that's okay. I'm okay
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: with that.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: It's okay.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's a good place to be, Stacy, it really is.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Let's switch from TJ because I've had enough of this guy,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: and TJ. Do the right thing, buddy, do the right thing.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about something that really really pissed me off,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: and that was the Miami trip. You went to Miami
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to MIA's birthday party, You paid for a hotel, a babysitter,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: you paid for a flight, and Mia ghosted you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Guys crazy, Who does that? I know?
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: And this is the thing, you know, I am so forgiving,
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: I am always nice, right mm hmm. For me to
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: say to me at the reunion, I can't receive this
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: right now shows.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: You how strongly I felt in that moment.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: I couldn't even receive what she was saying to me
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: because it was so obvious that she blatantly ghosted me
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: and didn't care about me.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I love seeing I love seeing you all redd up.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: When you're talking to her about that, I'm.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Like you, I believe I was like hot, you are hot.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, she's got it in her. Stop
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: saying she's got it in her.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: But only when you do something that I'm a human being.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: You can't tread me this way. The nicest like Gandhi
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: wouldn't be treated this way.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: For God's sake.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: No, And I'm like, oh my god, if somebody did
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that to me, I would be like, you're done.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I'm done with you.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: What.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they you know that I've spoken.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: To her, Mia, Yes, what were your thoughts on me
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and leaving the reunion? I know this was your first one,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: but what were the girls saying about it? You know
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: you're trying to be nice. You're trying to be nice.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I know you have some words in there that you
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: want to get out.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: I feel like you're hip to my game. Girl. You know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: I'm going to take a breath and.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Think I have I can. I can read people very easy,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: very easy.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: You can. I have to be careful with you.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like she wants to say it, and she's trying
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to be nice about it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just gonna tell Okay, let me just say this.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: After being on the receiving end of a beatdown from
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: the ladies, I can understand why it was too much
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: for her and she walked away.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think it was right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I think that, you know, she should have stood there
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: and defended herself like she did all season when we
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: would bring things up to her about you know, things
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: she said, sorry about her children, horrible things that she
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: said about Giselle's children. In those moments, Mia was like big,
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: bad gl Amazon.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: She stood up, she said how she felt.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: But when we all sort of questioned her and her
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: motives and her behavior, she ran away. Not right, but
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: I understand, That's all I'm saying. It's tough in this group.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: It is really tough when you feel like everyone is
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: coming down on you.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: So I get it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: I called her after the reunion to make sure she
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: was all right, and she was.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: You know how Mia is, She's already moved on to
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: the next thing.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: So Mia running out.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: She lied a lot, and I she got caught in
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: a lot of lies. However, The reason why she ran
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: out was not because she was lying. It was because
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think it was just Giselle said called.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Her a bad mom or something like that. Mom. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: didn't like that at all. I would have probably got
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: up and left too. I don't know if I would
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: have went.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Home but the lot, but it was a lot, so
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: you know, I would have been pissed off too.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: But that's my point. I understand it. I get it
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: because I you know, when they gang up on you.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I said this at their reunion. I really, I've never
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: been in a sorority. Have you been in a sorority?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: No?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: God, no, I was had a baby at eighteen. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: want a school of hard knocks.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Well, I've never been in a sorority.
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: But or this is Hey, the way that I have
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: been treated on this show is what I would imagine.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Hazing to be.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: Well, just you know, it's like we're going to make
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: sure we like beat you down before we accept you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: I'll never understand, well because looking for friendships.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: The good thing is is next season we get to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: see a different side of you.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sure because you get to know the girls better.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And you know how next season, yeah, I do, and
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I just wanted I have fun with it, be yourself
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: and keep a TJ away. And I just want to
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: say thank you so much for taking the time to
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: come on the podcast. You are beautiful, you are lovely,
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: and like I said, I can't wait to see you
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: next season.
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: Okay, thanks honey, thank you for inviting me, and your
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: beautiful face.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: You as well, you as well. Thank you Stacy, thank you.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Bye.