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PGA First Look | February 19, 2024 | Mexico Open DraftKings DFS Pricing and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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All sisters gone clear, You're lift up. It's noon on a Monday in
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the Lord's time zone, and you know what that means. It's time to
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start talking golf. If you're one of those people that's like, man,
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i'm a little hungover from the Genesis and Tiger and all that. I need
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a break, well then you're not ready for this show, because this is
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where sweaty tryhards who as soon as the previous week is over, we're ready
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to get knee deep into the next week. That is what we do.
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We love PGA DFS around here. It is fucking fine. You take it,
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you bottle it up, you put it in my veins. If you
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feel the same, lie encourage you to hang around for about the next hour
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because we're gonna have some ruber fun breaking down. The Mexico is in Mexico
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Open. I don't even know if the fuck it's called, but I know
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the players, I know the course, and I know how to play DFS
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and that's all you need. What's up, new guy, my name is
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James better known, asked the degenerate seventy five they former pro DFS player who's
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now just a professional shit talker here to help you get a little bit better
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at DFS. I'm not gonna do it with silly shit like pick some plays.
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get everybody in here. I know you guys love it. A long
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enough intro from the big guy. Let's see if I can do this transition
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here. Let me bring in a man who managed to not win the million
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dollars. He's gonna have to just settle for sixty thousand this week. I
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hope he can make it, make that survive. His name is totagg and
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Tambo. How you doing, bro, I'm doing well. Yeah, it
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was an exciting first week. That was a great intro breaking it all down.
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I'm excited, Like you said, bottle it up. As we always
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say, nobody cares, work harder. We're on to the next one,
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Mexico Open. Gonna break it all down for you guys, as always,
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going through the process, talking about some of the stuff. I know people
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are all excited for this pricing. We don't cheat. There was some spoiler
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alerts over in the discord, so I heard that. You know, the
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tweets are out there, there's a five K price range. We'll get to
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all that, but yeah, it was a one Wait did you say there's
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a five K price range. Yeah. If you don't see those tweets,
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yeah, I don't know how you did anything authentic reactions. I want to
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shit on bad players being over ten thousand, so I make a point not
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to look. I think that'll be the easy part. I just heard about
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that range though. But like you said, yeah, huge first week.
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I do want to say appreciate all the support out there. There was a
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ton of traction with bringing the merger over, getting everything set up with the
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seventy five community and the ship at community. It was a huge first week.
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Who myself others won, But it was all about the members. If
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you saw the tweet that went on earlier, if you didn't go to at
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ship At Nation on X and you can see that there was a ton of
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members that got the job done this week. And oh it's only you guys
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up at the top. Now go look at that. All kinds of members
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got the job done and everyone's happy. The Stone one of the best tools.
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I already knew this already, but many and that's part of the deal.
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We'll getting it done. But bringing that the tool, the Stone over
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for both Classic Slate and each of the Showdown slates was a phenomenal starting point
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for everybody to get on board and check that out. The discord was bumping
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every single day. It is right now for Nascar, by the way,
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too, we got Nascar on the go. Daytona five hundred moved to today.
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So lots of good things going over on at Shippingnation dot com. We'll
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get you that code here in a little bit. But James excited to back
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in and be back with you here for the first look miss last week do
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the travel. Hey, here's my fancy schedule. Hold on, let me
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see if I can blow it up. Look at it. Look at this
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production value I got going on here? Oh wrong screen, Hold on,
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I gotta do it. Oh look at that. I blew it up.
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This is that schedule I was telling you about once again. We're over here
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on the ship every Monday and Saturday and over on my station on Wednesday Friday
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for the time being. So check that out. And I just want I've
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had more than one person tell me this. Well, I'm excited that you
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and shipping are teaming up, but like, I don't want to pay the
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extra price. Bro, It's not an extra price you're getting. You're getting
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Tamba Hoop, all of the awesome people to ship it and me, and
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we lowered the price. If you were a member at my site, it's
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actually cheaper over there than it was on mine. And if you've never been
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a member, just go use this code Dejon fifteen and you will definitely get
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it for cheaper, right, fifteen percent off any package. I will walk
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you through that later, because I know a lot of you are old and
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you're like, hey, man, just be happy. I'm on YouTube watching
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it. I get it. I'm gonna show you how to use that code.
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It is. There's a ton of momentum coming over If you can't see
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that, there is something special going on at ship it right now in the
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PGA streets, actually in all the streets. But I'm really worried about PGA
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because you know me, the big guy gets off the PGA, then you're
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blind as a bad dude. By the way, make sure you're hitting that.
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Like, if we get up to one hundred likes over here, the
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editor will be updating me in private chat. I will give you a ticket
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on me that we will build together in the main contest this week. Okay,
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all right, Tambo, you got any thoughts before we move on to
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the course breakdown. No, I think we're good. All right, you
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have to just sit there and listen to me spew this for a minute.
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Okay, we're not gonna we're not good. There's plenty of course breakdowns out
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there, plenty of people do good stuff. I'm just gonna give you the
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highlights things I'm going to be looking for. We build a model for all
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of our members over at ship at Nation, so they have a model,
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the reference. So if you're not one of those people that's like, yeah,
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I see them data sites, but I don't know how to fucking make
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a model. I get it. I get I think a lot of the
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people to use data sites have no idea what they're doing. But you know,
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waste your money however you want. So I'm gonna give you some things
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that you want to know about this course. First of all, this is
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a resort course. If you don't know about resort courses, they tend to
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be pretty easy because they're basically built for people going on fucking vacations. Okay,
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they're not exactly grinder fest. So if you enjoyed watching some guys actually
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made bogies last week, you can get that out of your mind, because
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they ain't making many bogies at this course. Right. First of all,
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it is a course that is in Mexico. Yes, it is on the
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west coast of Mexico over a what is it by? I just looked it
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up over here on windy it's over by what is this? Uh uh parta
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vorta. There you go. That's my fancy Spanish for the week. And
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this course is a par seventy one. You're thinking, oh, so there's
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only three par fives. No, there's four par fives, but there's five
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par threes, thus making it a par seventy one. This course, if
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you just look at it, is very long for a par seventy one,
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being almost seventy five hundred yards is an extremely long course. But what you're
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gonna find is like it's a bomb's away course, right. There's just not
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a lot of ways to get in trouble at this course. You can absolutely
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bomb the shit out of it wide fair ways. Yes, you are going
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to have a decent amount of long irons in you can see the most common
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shots for the seconds or one to seventy five plus, So there is gonna
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be a lot of mid to long irons being hit in here. But the
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thing is is like, even when they miss, there's no there's no punishment.
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They have huge greens around here. You have very soft pass pallum greens
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which are super receptive, and these guys, even if they do manage to
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miss a green past palum is notorious for being one of the easiest surfaces to
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get up and down. So of course what am I going to be looking
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for this week? Well, long iron players, right. I think some
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long iron players who aren't long off the t can get it done this week.
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But really I think guys who just absolutely spray it off the tea and
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who can bomb it out there, I think are guys that you really want
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to consider this week. You know hashtag cam Champ Right, those are guys
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that are gonna have an advantage because they're going to probably be hidden short to
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mid irons in instead of long irons in and it's easier to control those.
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Last thing I would tell you is pap past palam greens tend to be notoriously
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slow, all right, And so with that, I really like shitty putters
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this week. My theory has always been, and I've never everybody argues about
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this, and I'm just going to tell you my take. Go with it
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or don't. If I have to choose a shitty putter, I would rather
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see him on slow greens than on fast greens. Okay, It's just like
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difficult courses. When of course gets difficult, I want better players. When
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the course is easier, I want more marginal players because that gap between them
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shrinks. Same principle applies here when it comes to putting on tough courses that
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have tough putting conditions, better putters are going to see their strengths exponentially better
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than the weaker players. So that's where I'm going. That is a course
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breakdown. That's all you get. Let's talk contests, Tambo. If you
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had a chance to look at these contests yet, Yeah, I just looked
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them up here because I actually saw somebody say it here, and now I
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can't find anyway someone said bad contest for the small time players. And I
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see a bunch like there's the eight dollars three Max your Classic Baby, the
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ten dollars eighteen, there's all the five dollars single entries, the twelve dollars
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single entries, twenty dollars three Max, I mean twenty bucks an under.
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I still see a ton of great contests. And one interesting note. You
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and I talk pre show, and I'll let you go into it. But
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the twenty dollars is not the worst, not the worst, Bob, as
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you'd usually say, let's hear your thoughts. So what do you got?
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Yeah, I mean so, first of all, the Main Lottery, anytime
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it's twenty percent or less the first, that's as good as you ever see
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the Main Lottery. And one hundred thousand is exactly twenty percent of five hundred
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thousand. I don't know that I'm gonna play in this because I don't typically
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play in the Big Lottery, but if I'm ever going to, this is
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the structure I would play in. This is not gross. I think the
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better play would probably be just come down here to the five dollars, right,
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because it's only what it's that twelve point five percent of first, and
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you get a better payoff structure throughout that top ten. Definitely be Max and
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that drive the Green. And for the people that you're talking about that are
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saying that the contest aren't that great that this week, well, first of
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all, you gotta remember I'm blocked out of a lot of them. But
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I see the three dollar twenty max, I see the six dollar Teea Green,
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I see the five dollars single entry. So I don't know if you're
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talking about like the quarter and fifty cent events, maybe those are bad this
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week, but the ones that I would consider on the lower end look very
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well structured to me this week. And I think for this being a quote
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unquote off week for golf, I think I think draftings spoiled us with really
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good contests. Yeah, John up to do our guy, Billy. You
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know, he was awesome down in Phoenix taking care of us. Really appreciate
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that. He always makes fun of me for not giving the love to hockey
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being the Canadian that I am. But nothing wrong with the five dollars f
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I go actually is great, Like like James just saying, it's just we're
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getting a better twenty dollars then we'll usually get. So it's kind of like
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one of those situations where if you ever were wanting to play it at least,
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this would be one you could consider with only two twenty percent up top
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to first versus usually thirty five or whatever it ends up being each each week
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when it's crazy, so much less of a lottery, but still very much
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so a lottery. That's how we would look at it. Did you just
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click on his comment? You have the ability to click on comments and bring
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him up. You do too, but I know, but if you do
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it, we can agree you're way better at it. To me, you
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could be the comment you host the show. I stand here and just talk
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and then I'll buy. You know, I love reading the comments throughout the
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show. Fucking go cam Champ sucks. I'm not going to argue with that,
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all right, And he does suck until he doesn't un tell he doesn't
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important factor, remember Andrew. All right. By the way, I'm not
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on here given picks. I'm just giving you an example of a guy that
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I would normally never consider that I would be at least giving some consideration to
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this week by and large signature, These these contests look pretty good, signature.
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Hole, you get the fuck out of here. Let's just let hoop.
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You know, victory laugh winning that this past week? Yeah, that
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was good and also funny. Part up with the picks and plays like one
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part you forgot in the breakdown is they've had the event at this course two
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years now. And if you just play Fino, Rogers, Champ and and
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Wu and build your lineups with those guys starting, and there's no way that
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you can lose because they've come top five or top ten every single year it's
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been played at this course, which is the last two years. So make
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sure you set your lineups up that way you'll be good. Nutted nutted,
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Okay, I mean, I will tell you a strategy that not enough people
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consider Tambo, especially on a week like this where I think that it's gonna
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be a little bit more chaotic. Really, go make your stands in the
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seven case and go find three guys in the seven case and legitimately play them
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in like seventy percent of your lineups, right, And then when you do
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that, then you go up top and you just go play twenty five to
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thirty percent of all the top end guys, knowing that those guys have incredible
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win equity, and get a little piece of all of them. And if
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you're three guys in the seven case hit, it doesn't really matter what happens
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up top, because you're gonna have to mix the match with all those people.
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Whereas almost everybody who builds lineups doesn't the exact opposite. They spend their
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time picking the top three up top and then they spray the seven k's,
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And I think sometimes on a crazy week like this, inverting that strategy can
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be a really unique way to get different. Yeah, I'll also segue that
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into another piece or just you know, give a secondary thought on the same
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comments someone mentioned earlier, shout out to our NASCAR content again, but you
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know NASCAR daytona five hundred building with lots of salary left on the table.
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This is definitely an event you could do that because just because all these guys
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are priced up top, and just because now I get the finale case will
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get there in a second, but for the rest of them, they just
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have to be priced somewhere. There is definitely a possibility here where you have
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a feenw with five seven k guys that still gets there and leaves five thousand
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on the table or whatever it might be, and you can get away with
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that. So, just to give an example, you can you can leave
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more money on the table. They're all playing the same course. They're all
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getting, you know, the first two rounds, so we'll go from there.
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With the cut, you still gonna have to make the cut. But
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it doesn't mean someone's gonna be better just because they're priced nine k and above.
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Everybody has to have a price tag at the event. That's that's the
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difference. All right, Let's go check out some quick weather, real quick.
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As you can see the weather, it's a it's a coastal course right
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here. It's a lot like a lot of these resort courses. It's gonna
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be on pass palleum. It's gonna you know, probably, you know,
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maybe get some motion breezes. But as you can see, the early forecast
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doesn't look too bad. And if I know, if I remember anything about
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this court, it is basically this. If it doesn't have any win it
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has no chance. This will be a straight up birdiefest if you do not
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get some gusts. Okay, this isn't a course that's gonna get baked out
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in the afternoon. This isn't gonna have those bumpy POAs. If it doesn't
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have any breeze, this course is going to probably play I would guess minus
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twenty two to minus twenty four winning score range, which is by definition of
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birdie Fest. So we'll be monitoring this weather. It is only a Monday's
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shit can change. By the way, we're using ECMF, which I believe
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stands for Eric cole Monday, Wednesday, Friday or every country makes weather forecast.
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Remember that. Okay, let's get over to the pricing. I have
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not looked. I swear to goodness, I have not looked. Now that
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you told me that there's guys in the five case, I've got to assume
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Tony Fenw is gonna be twelve five. I'm gonna go twelve five. The
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moment of suspense is here. How much is Tony fen now? Oh,
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only twelve thousand? So twelve thousand Tony feen Now. Okay, Wait a
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second, is my screen messing up? Or is that really? Say a
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Milion Agrios eleven to one? Yeah, I was waiting for that one,
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yet I got the same you up on my screen right now, and I
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couldn't wait to respond to that one. EMILIONA wait, am I inut?
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What? What am I missing here? What am I I mean? Look?
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I love Emiliano. I love him. Guy can hit a good long
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iron, which you're gonna need a lot of this week. But eleven ONEm
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Milion Agrillo, who's kind of been spinning his wills like I mean, isn't
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Hoguard like objectively a better player than emilion Agrio like both upside and just raw
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talent. If you turn the l's in his names to elevens and all the
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o's to zero's, you can spell his price with his name. Eleven thousand,
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one hundred is built right into his name. So obviously that's how they
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saw things at DraftKings and just put it together. But it is insane.
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It's nuts to see you're gonna say the same when you see Olson right there.
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We're just staying tenk and above. I mean, I'm with you,
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guard the hose. I like that play, but it doesn't get much better
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after that. I think Olson just won on the DV World Tour, I
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believe, so I would have to go look that up again just to remember.
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I'm pretty sure he just came over there. I mean, it looks
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like he got third a while back. I mean, oh wait, maybe
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they don't have the new stuff on here, never updates, And I'm gonna
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go double check now, because I us that's how you say name. For
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all of you that are aware, it's their beards, all right, you're
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there ten three hundred. Good to see he's out of prison. You love
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to see him beat the charges. Okay. So uh, by the way,
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very euro heavy dtree, Uh, the beard and the hoguard all up
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here. Uh. And then you got Kreo, which is just I mean
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right off the top. If Creo's twelve percent this week, I will like
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probably like eat my hat with a state knife and a fork. I cannot
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believe he is pribaced at eleveny one hundred. Okay, yeah, I mean,
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what's the narrative? He speaks Spanish and they're in Mexico, so like
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he's gonna fill more at home? What the fuck are we talking about?
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I did just go look it up though, just so you know. It
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was Olson won a couple of weeks ago, and it was the event when
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uh Nikolai was in the running. At the event, he was playing his
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brother Rasmus was doing well in the event, ended up finishing second to Olison.
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So he beat a different guy guarding the hose over there is brother Rasmus,
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Nicolay's brother who's in this field. Nikolaye hoguard up top at ten seven.
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So I feel like it's important you know this. I live in America
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and we don't even know that there's other countries. Okay. The only only
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reason we're even doing this Mexico nonsense this week is because the Amercans are down
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there playing, right. The PGA is down there all right. America doesn't
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even know what the countries exist. It was about the same field strength.
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That looks like, so we'll see. But yeah, that's just a note
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to have. All right, So up top, I mean, I a
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hoyguard is about where he should be. I don't even mind dtre up there,
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thear BEARDD you should I? I once again, doesn't it feel like
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Keim and Grio are probably gonna be the two pivots up here just because like
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they're not gonna like Grio's over priced and people do not remember all thear beard.
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Yeah, I definitely would agree with that. I'm top right away.
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It stands out. I guess the bigger conversations around what to do with female
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the chat asked earlier early thoughts on ownership. I could easily see thirty eight
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percent or something ridiculous here because it is a twofold. It's what you talked
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about where you know people just you know, the genesis hangover whatever you wanna
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call it, which brings a lazy event in. And then the secondary part
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of what I talked about is, no matter what, you're pretty much gonna
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have the money left over to be able to afford him. Especially with this
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dynamic pricing, I doubt anyone in the five K range is even playable.
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I have to go look. But when we get there, we'll see.
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The point would be you could still always afford a twelve K guy. To
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James's point, the funniest part to me about them doing dynamic pricing without looking
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ahead and seeing who's down there is if you're gonna do five k, you
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should have done twelve, five or thirteen, like doing the same twelve and
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eleven eights that we've already always seen. It's close enough to eleven eights.
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It doesn't actually make that big of a difference to me, like you should
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it should be to put a thirteen K tony Fenow or a twelve five tony
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Fenw. But teach their own is what it is. So just noting that
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I think Fenw, Hoguard d Tree would be the guys that at least make
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sense versus the field strength up top here. And then I'm sure we'll find
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some guys in the nine k. That makes sense as well. Does Tony
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Fenow justify forty percent ownership with a guy based on how he's been playing at
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twelve thousand dollars? Because twelve thousand dollars, even if there's five k guys
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in this field, is still pretty price prohibitive, right, So does does
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he justify twelve thousand dollars with like I swar to God him and like his
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putter is broken? His putter is just broken broken? Yeah, what was
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the event we did this at recently? We just had this conversation. I
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think it was maybe Scotty at one of them, where it was like,
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again, if you can find Scotty lineups, like, I definitely can't foresee
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myself lock buttoning fen now or playing eighty percent or something. So I guess
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if you are the lineups that you do go to with few, I would
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want to play with something extremely different, whether it's you know, a couple
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thousand on the table or finding guys down load that you can get to,
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Like I think you can build a lineup easily and get some lower on guys
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down below. I'm gonna be using the stone this week. I can tell
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you that for a fact, to be able to go in and see who
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some of these high leverage plays, high upside guys are, knowing that it's
18:29
built around the actual tournament at stake. Like someone said this earlier too,
18:33
was like, you know, I figure what they said here. I got
18:34
to do a better job remembering where they are. But somebody said, like
18:37
this week it feels like ass or something, and that's what. Oh,
18:40
here it is, but it's awesome. Lots of slanders. He was more
18:42
so saying, Brian, saying what other people are thinking versus what you and
18:47
I and many others are feeling. That's what we want. That's the edge,
18:51
that's the advantage. It doesn't not to say I've got the super edge.
18:52
It's gonna win you the Mexico when you don't know. That takes skill,
18:56
luck, experience, putting it all together, the process, building it
18:59
out, using the tools and things that we offer. No one can guarantee
19:02
that you're gonna win this week playing a tournament. But going into the week,
19:06
any given edge would be when others are doing what I always call a
19:08
lazy week, you're gonna see ownership congregate on certain plays in certain areas,
19:12
and there's gonna be a ton of great ways to get different and get get
19:15
different around them, plus their showdown slates, plus there's other stuff. So
19:18
there's just gonna be a lot of stuff that we can do this week.
19:21
And I love weeks like this. Most people want to sleep on this week.
19:25
Ship At jumps on the opportunity. Cody knows and what a last name
19:29
gamble? All right? Hey, by the way, I see two hundred
19:32
people in here, only about one hundred likes. That means we have roughly
19:34
one hundred donkey dicks. We don't no donkey dicks allowed here. Okay,
19:37
all right, let's get to this next range because I gotta tell you three
19:41
guys that instantly we're in my head before I've looked at any modeling, before
19:44
I've looked at anything, are right here. I mean, I don't even
19:45
think it's that crazy to actually start my lineups with these three guys. Let's
19:51
see if you can guess my three guys that I love in this range that
19:52
I was already thinking of. I didn't know if you were thinking of them
19:56
to play them or not play them, to play them? These are guys,
19:57
YEA. If it's not play that'd be obvious, fucking loser, piece
20:00
of shit. Patrick Rodgers double Bogie's eighteen to miss the cut on the number,
20:04
Patrick Rodgers, What about my guy Steven Yagers? Oh of course Jaeger
20:07
bombs. Oh god, this course is meant for him. He's a resort
20:11
course, Darling. What about Taylor Pendrick? Oh yeah, you know,
20:15
I got a Canadian fetish, you know, I got one, and then
20:18
the last one I think is either you know, I just don't know if
20:21
we would be woo because of that. So what about Mark Cobard? Uh,
20:23
you know, Mark Cubbard is a guy that I think can play with
20:26
this course, But I like Keith Mitchell. Man, Keith Mitchell can bomb
20:30
away with impunity, right, and if there's no punishment for just absolutely smashing.
20:33
Oh my god, Nick literally nailed all three ye knows exactly. Those
20:37
are the three guys that I was like, I'm playing those guys, And
20:40
honestly, if I could be honest with you, I think Keith Mitchell's overpriced.
20:42
There's no reason he should be ahead of Steven Yeager, right, I
20:47
think I think he's a little over Patrick Rodgers is definitely fucking overpriced, but
20:51
uh, like, I think that's gonna make Keith Mitchell all the more playable,
20:55
because I bet he's only gonna be like ten or eleven percent because no
20:57
one is going to play him when he is more expensive than Yeager. Sad
21:02
thing is now I think Jeger is probably gonna be like twenty five percent.
21:06
Yeah, I do think that Yeager's always a popular guy anyway, Like people
21:07
like to play him, so people like to play him and Rodgers. But
21:11
what's interesting again, just first look is I feel like a lot of people
21:15
like Taylor Pendrith too. I did get a spoiler alert in the discord earlier
21:18
somebody mentioned that so and then our guy Rinn hashtag Sheppard. He's always in
21:22
the discord. He goes, oh my, the ninety five hundred dollars range
21:26
has some absolute studs and the exact guy at ninety five hundred is his DUDEVR.
21:30
EVR might finally be playable because the field strength, but I don't know.
21:33
His price now goes up with it. You got to balance that as
21:36
well. But I think you nailed it. I think you broke it down
21:37
solid. I guess to me, James, like the setup here would be
21:41
Mackenzie Hughes down to Hubbard. Seems like it would go overlooked because people will
21:45
play Mitchell, Jagger, Rogers, Pendrith probably you know more Yagger and Rodgers,
21:51
but Pendrith up there too. So the bottom nine k range looks like
21:52
where we could get some leverage here. I think, I think you're exactly
21:56
right evr through Hubbard that low ninety five hundred nine thousand. I would bet
22:00
good money none of those guys get about fifteen percent, which is a pretty
22:03
bold proclamation because we know rule number one, people spend their salary and so
22:07
just inherently guys in the nine k's get ownership, right, But I think
22:10
that none of those guys are really fitting the prevailing narratives that are out there,
22:12
and people just aren't comfortable paying that kind of salary for Brandon wu right.
22:18
So like I think that all these guys, if you like them,
22:19
you should probably be pretty excited, because I bet all of them are going
22:22
to be lingering in like that nine to thirteen percent ownership range. And I
22:26
mentioned Hubbard to try and get you to go with one of your three there.
22:30
But I do like Hubbard even if it is nine K. I kind
22:33
of like that he's not best by pricing. And I've heard a little Davis
22:34
Thompson love over there, get the dude that's our first donkey chok warning yeah,
22:41
and then don't forget about don't sleep on he's coming out, dude,
22:45
Jake Knap's eighty seven hundred. I'm not sleeping on him playing. I was
22:48
praying he was gonna be like eighty two hundred. I wanted him to be
22:51
overpriced. When we were in Phoenix, when we had our meetup, what
22:53
was I just like a week ago. I remember watching him. I was
22:56
like, this dude's a stunt, Like this guy is really good. So
23:00
yeah, Davis Thompson at eighty nine hundred, if you're thinking, ooh,
23:03
I'm gonna get sneaky and play eighty nine, dude, he's gonna be donky
23:07
joh. If he's not twenty percent owned, I would be shocked. He
23:08
will be super popular, and he should be because he's a dude that's a
23:12
great course fit. He can hit long irons and he absolutely smashes the ball
23:15
off the tee. He's good on pass palwell, he's never good at putting,
23:18
but like he's less bad on pass ballum so a lot to like here,
23:23
Doug Gim. I don't know has Doug Gim been playing well this year?
23:27
I see four out of ten cuts made, but that seems a little
23:30
high. But I am excited about Jake Napp being overpriced well two gloves Aaron
23:34
Rye. But I don't see any rain in the forecast, so I don't
23:37
love him, and no one's going to play camp Champ at eighty six hundred.
23:40
Can we concur I believe you're correct? This was what Cabways had to
23:44
say about Gim. Just of note there, sixty to one is fire long
23:47
iron game is there? He's likable. We got to play guys that are
23:49
likable, but he may be overlooked. I like the second part better,
23:52
the ladder of it of being maybe overlooked at eight point eight k A one
23:56
quick note though, I do got to interject here that you brought up about
24:00
Davis Thompson. I was thinking, how would Davis Thompson get as popular as
24:03
we might think? And then I remembered, maybe he does stay a little
24:06
bit in check. Because if you like you said a lot to like here,
24:08
if you like Djen myself together, one guy that would make him popular
24:12
is Pat Mayo. One guy that's not doing his show this week is Pat
24:17
Mayo because over on the Male Media Network this week while he's away enjoying his
24:21
vacation, which by the way, he texts me this morning says he's doing
24:23
a betting show, probably from the beach. Like the dude just can't take
24:26
a day off. So you absolutely love to see it, but hopefully having
24:30
a great time. But Djen and myself will be doing the regular studio show,
24:34
not in studio obviously, but we will be doing the studio show of
24:37
building some lineups, going back and forth seeing where the field's going on Wednesday
24:41
morning. I don't know if it's gonna be recorded or live yet. We'll
24:45
decide that, probably off air, but just to get a feel for it,
24:47
we'll get it out to you guys so that you know. But we're
24:48
gonna be doing that over on the Male Media Network this week. I'll try
24:52
hosting it. Djen can be me on the show the switch spots there and
24:56
he can come up with all the bullshit and make fun of me and we'll
24:59
go from there. That's usually what I do with Pat, so it should
25:00
be a good show. Check that one out if you guys like us together.
25:03
That should be another version of the show that we can get out there
25:06
this week for you guys Wednesday sometime morning or afternoon looking forward to it.
25:11
Look little and you know Pat show moves the needle, so we can get
25:14
on there and just be like you gotta play Doug, gimme he's likable.
25:17
That'll be our that can be our narrative we run with. How about this
25:19
one? Should I put this on in the car so my kids can listen
25:22
to Uncle d Jen and Uncle Tambo? Is this this should be safe?
25:26
The f counter comes out on Wednesdays? Right, Yeah, I've only I've
25:27
only said two so far. We're doing pretty good this far into the show.
25:32
And then and then beg bg Rice, I just fed mine so they
25:34
would leave me alone, get rid of those kids. Perfect, All right,
25:38
let's get down here to the lower eight case. Chuck Hoffman's kind of
25:41
playing good golf like we you know, like I remember back in the day
25:45
when I first started playing PGA dfs, you could always count on Chuck Hoffman
25:48
to be like on the front place of the leaderboard Thursday and or Friday,
25:52
and like I it almost feels like we're back there. I mean, he
25:55
clearly did good at the waste Management. He got off to a really roasty
25:57
start at the Genesis. Of course it is, but like, is Chuck
26:02
Hoffman like going through a resurgence here because the Duke can hit long irons and
26:04
if this is gonna be a long iron course, I don't mind old Chucky
26:07
Hoffs. Yeah, he would make sense from that perspective for sure. And
26:10
I wonder, just going back to that upbreak, if you've got Thompson and
26:12
then Jake Knapp and Cam Champ's course history here and if people are talking about
26:17
gim we're liking what they see. We already saw it in the chat.
26:19
I wonder if you see him go overlook because the next range just sawid too,
26:22
Like justin Suh, Michael Kim, Matt McNeely, Ekro and all those
26:26
guys can make birdies and bunches. I don't know if you want them all
26:29
together in a lineup, but just to say it, I mean, there's
26:30
definitely a range here of Hoffman down to Ekro where I could pick and play
26:33
some of these guys within my builds and maybe even get after sort of balanced
26:37
type build. This is guys that you could see sort of find their way
26:40
to the top, make birdies throughout and go from there. So Hoffman would
26:42
be a guy that fits it. We just saw him do well in Phoenix
26:45
there, make it into the playoff where he ended up eventually losing, but
26:48
still great run from him there, and then I think some of the guys
26:51
just below him are interesting as well. And as a guy that you know
26:53
me, I get off to ownership, Oh, ownership. There's no range
26:56
that week in and week out goes more overlook in the low eight case.
27:00
And it's largely because people like those upper eight K options quite frequently, and
27:03
they also like the upper seven case. And when you do that, a
27:07
one range that typically gets squeezed is the low eight K range. And looking
27:11
at these salaries, I think that's going to be a case again this week
27:12
because when you scroll right there to the upper seven k's, I think there's
27:15
some dudes that are going to be kind of popular. Like you don't know
27:18
this, but sh Kim secretly smashes the shit out of the ball right like
27:22
he is going to be one that I think is gonna catch some steam this
27:26
week. Is somebody that I'm definitely gonna be warm to I'm definitely gonna be
27:29
warm to toasty. You see what I did there. This guy absolutely smashes
27:33
that. Vince Norman smashes that Jonathan Vegas smashes it. And if the prevailing
27:37
narrative is going to be you have to smash it off the tee, then
27:40
I think that some of these guys that maybe aren't the longest off the tee,
27:42
like a Michael Kim, are guys that are gonna get overlooked. And
27:47
don't forget Justin Saw is only good at two things. He can hit the
27:49
ball far and he can putt. And if those are the only two things
27:52
he has and he's gonna be seven percent on this week, that could be
27:55
a good enough reason to justify playing him. Yeah, I like that one.
27:59
Could you confirm if this story is true? From Nick? He says,
28:02
got my kid in trouble for calling kids at school mother fathers, so
28:04
be careful. I actually had to meet with the teacher and my wife wasn't
28:08
happy that. That's an incredible story if true, taking it, taking the
28:11
bit to a whole new level and just getting the job done. Do you
28:14
know if that's true, it is true. Shaping the minds of the next
28:17
generation. That's what the big guy does. My god, yeah, this
28:21
next range, and then Rinn says this too. I like this. So
28:22
you can actually make a case that some of those low eight k's could be
28:25
swapped with the low nine k's. You could fade fenwe get into a balance
28:27
build. Yea. I think there's definitely different ways that you can go about
28:30
it here, and just seeing it early on again getting a first look,
28:33
that is something that stood out to me right away. That's why I brought
28:36
it up. People seem to like McNeely. So maybe he's the guy that
28:38
gets sort of roped into this range as popular at eighty one hundred, he
28:41
is less than the average price over our DraftKings at eighty one hundred, So
28:45
I think that's another interesting point just to make here. Now that's the upper
28:48
eight k range, and then probably McNeely is where I would see people going
28:52
early on. For sure. The Chess and Hadley at seventy seven hundred seems
28:57
a little over priced, Like Chess and Hadley better than Norman Vegas, cage
29:00
Lee, Alex Smalley, Like, what are we talking about here? Bob
29:04
Jerry likes the shout up to Jerry Matts has happened that. Hey, I
29:07
agree with you, Jerry chessin Hadley does love a birdie fest. I'm just
29:11
pointing out that he's overpriced, like he should be seventy two hundred even in
29:12
this field. Like there's just no way Hadley should be priced ahead of Norman
29:17
Vegas, kh Lee and Alex Smalley. I can't do it, Bob.
29:19
I mean, I can play him, and I might actually play him,
29:22
but I'm going to play him because he is overpriced and that's probably going to
29:26
drive down his ownership. Because people love a good value in building their lineups.
29:29
Yeah, I think that's you know, the interesting part too, is
29:32
just if you go back to the original thought process of Tony fen Now up
29:36
top and the price that he is, Like I said, if you play
29:37
him and a bunch of guys down here, it's often gonna be you know,
29:41
they're gonna mix. You're gonna see people mixing in the ones up top
29:44
and then going down from there. I'm sure in the sixes we must have
29:47
some dudes that you can play. So I think that's another thing to note.
29:49
This bottom seven K range has some guys that we can get to as
29:52
well. I think you're gonna see Tony fen now, and then I think
29:56
a lot of people are gonna come down here and grab these guys right here,
29:57
right Vegas smally young. Like, there's some really good players in this
30:03
range, right, and you can easily put three of these guys in there
30:06
and get Tony fenaw and you really don't even feel like you're punting with your
30:07
lineup. It still feels quote unquote safe. Which, by the way,
30:11
if you're playing GPPs and your lineup feel safe, you don't fucking get it.
30:14
Pal. So uh, let's see any I mean, like, these
30:18
are some good golfers. Like I think kh Lee doesn't fit the narrative,
30:21
but like if it's a Barti fest, I'm always open to kh Lee.
30:25
Yeah, I like that golf too. And one other note, I was
30:26
just looking at while you were pulling it up there, just the there's this
30:29
might might be the first time in a long time that I can remember this.
30:33
There is more guys combined in the eight K and nine K range than
30:36
the entire seven K range. Just the way this separation works, that's not
30:40
something you ever see. Only eighteen guys in the in the seven K range
30:44
this week, So yeah, noting that as well, just again for lineup
30:47
composition if you want to call it that roster construction as a whole, just
30:49
we'll get We'll get after that in the slate plans and stuff we do over
30:52
on shimper Nation, just to be able to show you guys how we're looking
30:55
at that and how we think others are building it. But again the nice
30:56
part of it this week with djn am I popping in on Wednesday to that
31:00
show in the Male Media Network, we will look at some lineup breakdowns and
31:03
see where we think people are going with it. Start with the chalky build
31:07
break it out from their ways to get different, see where we're at when
31:10
we have more information on ownership sweaty tryhard ownership that is from djn now over
31:15
at ship Nation including his projections and ownership for all showdown slits as well.
31:19
And then of course we'll also be looking at it from any other perspectives like
31:22
if people are using few, what does that look like? If they go
31:26
to balance throughout, what does that look like? So we'll have more on
31:29
ownership whether when we get to that point, nobody else down here that really
31:32
stands it off the top I saw people mentioning Nate Lashley. I heard Johnny
31:36
Vegas whispers last night before we even got pricing. People always seem to like
31:40
Carson Young at events like this, so I think, you know, that
31:42
could be something. Scott Stallings ends up popping usually in projections on other projection
31:48
sites, so I can see him getting up there. And then for whatever
31:49
reason, people love JJ spawn. I'm one of those people in the past,
31:52
so I don't know. Maybe he'll get some ownership as well. And
31:56
then I think Sam's gonna is he gonna spawn into a player that doesn't fucking
31:59
suck spawn into a player? I don't know about that. That's the issue.
32:02
And then someone said earlier in the chat, do you see Bobby Mack
32:06
at seven k? They said, talk me out of Bobby mack chalk at
32:09
seven k. What do you think about that one? Uh? I mean,
32:12
here's first of all, let me let me let me go ahead and
32:15
give this dot. I think the prevailing narrative this week is going to be
32:17
you gotta play bombers right, and there's only so many people who are going
32:20
to fit that. I think there's two ways that, like, you can
32:22
find guys who can have success to this course and could be good players at
32:25
this course who are going to be lower owned and they're this right. Find
32:29
the bombers that no one are talking about, right, Like Grayson Sigg is
32:31
a dude that absolutely mashes it. Sam Stevens absolutely mashes it. And I
32:35
bet they are not going to get near the hype that some of these other
32:37
bombers get. Right. And the other one is like a guy like b
32:42
York right, a guy like kh Lee. They don't fit any narratives that
32:45
are out there this week. But I'm telling you we have seen both of
32:47
these guys can get nuclear hot. And if this is going to be a
32:50
resort course and it's gonna turn into a putting contest, those guys can get
32:53
as hot as anybody, right, So that I just want to put that
32:55
out there before I forgot to say it that those are two ways you could
32:58
consider getting different. Go with guys who don't fit the quote unquote standard narrative,
33:01
or find guys that do fit the narrative that for whatever reason aren't getting
33:06
the steam. Back to Bobby Mack, I mean long term talent. I
33:08
think Bobby Mack is a much better player than most of these guys. Down
33:12
here. But I just think that Bobby Mack's like kind of a grinded guy.
33:15
I don't want him at a Bertie Fest. Is that is that a
33:16
bad take? It could be fine. I think actually that was what was
33:20
funny. Is though people look at it from the talent perspective, but a
33:22
lot of the tournaments that he was showing up in in that were those majors
33:25
grinding out types, us opens, things like that. So maybe it is
33:29
more of a course setup versus that. Obviously, talent wise, it's all
33:30
there seven k is, you know, looking very cheap. I would take
33:35
T Dunks over Bobby Mack head to head this week. I just like T
33:37
Dunks at Bertie Fest. More like, I don't think he's a better golfer.
33:40
I just think T Dunks this is a better spot for him than it
33:43
is for Bobby Mack. So, like just playing the game, I would
33:45
rather have T Dunks over Bobby Mack. I don't always just go up who's
33:49
the long term more talented golfer. A lot of times I go with the
33:52
guy who I think is better for the scoring environment that's going to be there.
33:55
Yeah, one thing I will say about that, we got the course
33:57
fit rankings like guy Lee Aldrich does over a ship came over from a formerly
34:00
a fan share. I really like those ranking as well, just another tool
34:04
we have, And just saying it like that, I'm gonna be curious to
34:06
see how some of these guys right out when he sets it up, because
34:08
last week what got me could have been a much better week had I used
34:12
Harris English as opposed to Bo Hostler dumpy Bow never again dumpy Bow. Maybe
34:16
maybe maybe, But I say it like that was a setup where it ended
34:20
up probably being a better setup of a course for Harris English, and that's
34:23
what ended up happening, and Harris English ended up having the better week some
34:27
other guys Andrew says, got her up. You already brought up the Bomber
34:30
narrative. I do like brox call though, and Andrew Novak. I think
34:32
he's an interesting place. Well, I want to see his betting number two.
34:36
This is the type of field you could see somebody like him come through.
34:37
So yeah, not much else that I have here, but I think
34:40
it was a good breakdown of that bottom range too. All right, sixty
34:44
eight hundred. It saddens me. I was hoping Bramlet was gonna be like
34:46
seventy six hundred this week to maybe keep people off of him. But at
34:49
sixty eight hundred, I'm gonna tell you right now, Joseph Hamlet's gonna get
34:52
some steam. I think he has good course history here. I haven't got
34:54
in I haven't started doing all my research yet other than just the course.
35:00
But Joseph Bramler bombs it bombs. It came tenth last year. Yeah he
35:05
missed it got the first year, tenth last year. So, uh you
35:07
know, here's this is another guy I'm talking about. Not a soul's going
35:10
to play Harry Hall this week? All right, Harry Hall, where's the
35:13
stupid little hat Bryson want to be? He's a short hitter, right,
35:15
But I'm just telling you a guy like him as a dude that if this
35:19
turns into a putting contest, you want Harry Hall on your team. Right,
35:22
This is just a straight up putting contest, and minus twenty four is
35:24
the winner. Harry Hall will have a round of minus eight. I promise
35:28
you he always has one in him. So that's just the way that like
35:30
you can find these sleepers that don't fit the narrative out there that everybody's going
35:34
to be pushing this week, but you got to remember at a resort course,
35:37
there's it's not the US Open, and the difference between the edge that
35:42
the bombers have and the short hitters, it's it's diminished because the short hitters
35:45
a lot of times can put a lot better. All right, who else?
35:51
Garrik he Go at sixty seven hundred seem a little cheap to you.
35:53
I'm just gonna say, we have to. It would remind me on Wednesday,
35:57
we have to build the Mayo Special and it has to have he Go,
36:00
It has to have Davis Thompson, and it should have Michael Kim just
36:04
because you know, a fan of the show was just on with with Mayo.
36:07
There that Michael Kim shows a good one. You guys haven't checked it
36:09
out, Definitely go and watch that. He broke down a lot of insight
36:12
like he's been doing sort of in his threads over on X and things like
36:15
that, where he'll actually go in behind the scenes or pull the curtain back
36:17
a little bit. And I thought it was pretty interesting stuff that he was
36:20
talking about with certain courses, green layouts, things like that. But yeah,
36:22
maybe remember he go for that sixty seven hundred, though this would be
36:25
the type of place that you would see him show up. So I think
36:29
he's actually interesting here at that sixty seven hundred dollars price tag. Del sol
36:32
You talking about Eric Cole earlier, Eric Sohler, the guy Del Soler,
36:37
the guy that shot Del Solaire. He shot the what was it a fifty
36:40
seven a couple of weeks ago or something. I saw that. That's crazy.
36:44
Yeah, so talk about he can get hot as the sun. You
36:46
see what I did there? I did Garrik, hego real quick. If
36:52
he gets simmy steam, tell me that this is a bad take. If
36:55
we see that, he's gonna be like twelve percent home because he's honestly too
36:59
talented to be at sixty seven hundred. Can I just fade him at week
37:01
long and playment showdown where he's actually good? Yeah, definitely like that call
37:06
quite a bit. And again that's what I'm saying. I do think again,
37:07
you'll have the ownership. It's gonna be the basketball haven it covered,
37:10
but that is where you're gonna see. There is gonna be some serious spots
37:14
where guys are like eight to ten percent and everyone around them is point five
37:17
or one and it just again, I know you're not playing in a vacuum.
37:20
It's not a matchup bet where it has to be this person versus that
37:23
person. But we're saying when you're seeing that, especially when you get down
37:25
to these price tags, it becomes a little bit easier. But you even
37:29
have a separate strategy for it in saying not only that, I'm still gonna
37:31
play the dude, I'm just gonna focus on it in showdown. One more
37:36
process piece, just because I think you brought this up pre show. Maybe
37:38
talk about this a little bit, like is this a slate where you tighten
37:42
your pool or you spread it out with these five to six k range guys
37:45
you can talk to from a couple different angles, But how are you treating
37:47
this one? Oh? Wait, were you asking me? I'm sorry,
37:52
I was. I was checking something on my phone. I'm sorry. You
37:55
know, it's all good. We talked about this pre show a little bit,
37:57
so I'll let you take it. But he just talked about your playbol
38:00
You always do a great job explaining this of saying like kind of letting your
38:02
player pool dictate your contest selection and go ahead on that. So like,
38:07
like I was already looking this week at like what contest do I want to
38:09
play? And I don't think that's the question you should be asking yourself on
38:13
a Monday. I think the question you should be asking yourself is how many
38:15
players in this tournament are you interested in? Start starring all the players that
38:19
you like, right, put a little note by them, and if you
38:21
find you like you're only finding like eight to ten guys, well then maybe
38:23
this is a good week for a single entry or a three max. Right.
38:25
Go you know, you play one hundred dollars a week, We'll go
38:28
get in the thirty three dollars single entry and kind of do it that way.
38:30
Right. Whereas if I find myself starring twenty eight guys, which I
38:34
got to tell you early in the week, I am finding myself starring a
38:37
lot of guys. In my head, it's probably a better week to play
38:38
in the quote unquote lotteries where you can enter one hundred and fifty lineups and
38:43
have a player pool of twenty twenty five, maybe even thirty players, and
38:46
then you can spread it out that way. I let the number of players
38:49
that I'm interested in that week dictate the contest I play in, not the
38:52
other way around, and it's just something that's always worked for me. Yeah,
38:54
I like that quite a bit. For a second part of a quash.
38:57
I know what he's saying, Like the five to six K range is
39:00
specifically wider. We just talked about it. It's a bigger range the seven
39:02
K range of shrunk down this week. Again, that's part of it.
39:06
If you like a bunch of guys in here, and you truly like them,
39:07
then get after. But I also talk about this the other way too,
39:10
where it's not something where I want to get Let me get three percent
39:14
of this guy because I heard he shot a fifty seven a couple of weeks
39:16
ago. All that addc guy man, we've been waiting for him. Got
39:20
to get my three percent of him. Oh, Indycott. I heard someone
39:22
mention him in the chat when I was watching DJ and Tamba on Monday.
39:25
Better get three percent, Like, don't do that either. We're talking Endicott
39:29
for showdown. You're welcome everybody. Yeah, that's a good call too.
39:31
So I think that's just the key to it all too. I would go
39:35
down here, find some guys you're actually feeling and like get your your range
39:37
of them and then sort of narrow down your starring or your player pool size,
39:42
then go pick your contest selection based off of that. Love all that
39:45
putting it all together is what it's all about. Part of the process that
39:47
we talk about it often, isn't Carl you and usually like sixty two hundred
39:52
and really good field And now he's sixty two hundred in this field? What
39:53
the hell is that all about? And gonna make birdies and bunches for sure?
39:57
Yeah, Carl gets real hot. Wait, Matthew Neismith at sixty two
40:01
hundred, am I in like? What Matthew ni Smith at sixty two hundred?
40:06
Like? He is objectively a better player than Parker Coody and Chan Kim
40:09
and Heismith? What did they was somebody drunk? Like did they have?
40:14
What's going on here? I think it's just a product of what we've seen
40:16
from him lately, not good in Phoenix, miscut at the others way,
40:20
some of those courses a lot harder too, if you go back to sort
40:22
of the easier courses mishmash of results, thirty top thirty fives and stuff.
40:27
But definitely think at sixty two hundred more than fair for his price here at
40:30
this one sixty two hundred. Lanto Griffin at sixty one hundred, here's my
40:32
narrative, tell me if you're coming with me on it. When I see
40:35
the name Lnto, I think, oh, that's that sounds like a name
40:37
from somebody from Mexico. Is that a good enough narrative to play? I
40:40
guess. But we actually know who he is, so that would change it
40:44
a little bit. But I still think he's probably fine to be honest.
40:45
At sixty hundred. You don't let the fax get in the way of a
40:49
good narrative. Tambo, all right, I agree. Narrative Street's always the
40:52
best. That was the narrative last week, speaking of Mayo and all the
40:54
you know, the win this week and everything like that. Not in studio,
40:58
narrative lives on. He always, you know, it's always my best
41:00
weeks when I don't go in studio and do the show. So good news
41:02
you and I are doing that show, but hashtag not in studio. So
41:07
it could be another big week over at the Nation for US and for members
41:09
and many others. So I'm excited for that as well. Anybody else down
41:14
here, Look, does Troy Merritt being in the five thousands thank you,
41:17
thank you, thank you. Uh, that seems a little low for Troy
41:22
Merrett, who's actually a guy that I think kind of might have fixed his
41:23
putting yips. So I don't I don't know. Wait, wait, what's
41:28
the rule? What's the Troy Merrett rule? Tampa Murritt. Yeah, I
41:30
was gonna tell you that. This is the Troy Merritt flow chart. The
41:31
discord was confusing it earlier. Is Troy Merritt in the field? Yes?
41:36
Is Troy Merritt cheap? Yes? Is it a Birdie fest? Yes?
41:40
Play Troy Merritt. We'll be in on Troy Merritt this week. The process
41:45
right there, that's the people want to know a little bit about me and
41:46
Tamba's process. That's it right there. He comes up with that, and
41:50
then I have things like Lanto Griffin sounds like a Mexican name, right See,
41:52
we we you know, it's a very it's a very very complex process.
41:58
Don't don't go past fifty eight hundred, Oh boyd Norman fifty eight hundred
42:02
two Norman, Yeah, yeah, CET paying fifty seven hundred the disrespect on
42:10
ct BAN Callum Terran, play that guy at showdown. He will have Calum
42:15
Arran actually might be a good fit here at fifty six hundred, and you
42:19
know I'm here. I just got to see something real quick, Tim.
42:22
But if I like, let's just go back to that start I was talking
42:23
about earlier, If I want to go Keith Mitchell, Jaeger Pendrith to start
42:27
out, and then I'm willing to come down here and like just toss in
42:30
one Callum Teren just one quote unquote punt at fifty six hundred. Look that,
42:34
let's me get all the way back up to the mid sevens with the
42:37
rest of my lineup. Yeah right, I mean, like you can build
42:38
some really good lineups if you're willing to stay away from the double digit range.
42:43
Right, I can finish with Vegas and kh Lee. We just nutted
42:46
it. Oh wait, we're saving this for the Wednesday show, aren't we?
42:49
My bad? My bad? Good preview? Good teaser. We call
42:52
that a teaser in the bus. You got it, you nailed it?
42:53
There are we? Are we doing that live or we're gonna pre record it?
42:57
That's I said. I don't know. We didn't talk about it,
42:59
so we can talk about an hour off air. I don't care. People
43:00
probably don't mind listening in. But why to do whatever the hell Pat wants
43:05
us to do? Right? Doesn't that? Does he? Does? He?
43:07
Whatever Pat decides, we'll we'll we'll find out for him today and we'll
43:09
let you guys know. I don't think he cares, but I do think
43:12
we might even get like a cool thumbnail if we do it recorded, because
43:15
then I'll be able to edit it out, fix it in, and do
43:17
all that. So it probably will be recorded, but we'll do it early
43:20
enough and get it out there as usual, so similar time that Pat and
43:22
I would normally record. Get that out to you guys. But also speaking
43:25
of that Pat's boy, you just scroll past him, I think, but
43:29
peace and Coody as good as him, won't try to be him doing that
43:32
one. But just to note that he is in the field as well.
43:35
But his brother's more expensive. Yes, here's someone was the good one,
43:38
so did I. Parker's more though like way more? Wouldn't he like he
43:42
was way up here? He's sixty five hundred. It might be recent form.
43:45
I think Parker showed a thing or two is the last couple? What
43:47
did he play twenty fifth at the Farmers for Parker? So that just automatically
43:52
warrants him being more expensive now because one time recently he did better. Dude,
43:57
Nicholas Satchavaria is like an actual golfer, right, and once again,
44:00
I bet he speaks Spanish, so he's gonna fill at home in Mexico.
44:04
You gotta run with the narratives, got it. That's one you can run
44:07
with. Yeah, he can make birdies at least, but maybe a better
44:08
showdown play. I saw I saw Jorge Mpio up there, and I was
44:10
gonna say that narrative for him, But I think he speaks that Spanish Spanish
44:15
and not that Mexican Spanish, and I've heard that like there's there's gonna be
44:17
something lost in translation, so I think he's gonna be tilting easy fade.
44:22
Yeah. Also, Pearson missed the cut at the Farmers, Parker made it
44:25
and finished top twenty five boom thousand dollars. Price increase just like that.
44:30
Uh Ben Taylor fifty one hundred. This is crazy to see guys, this
44:36
cheap, Like this is so weird to me, Like Ben Taylor's an actual
44:38
golfer, Like he's an actual golfer. I thought it was gonna be Ben
44:43
Martin and then I wondered in my head if you told the Ben Martin baby
44:46
story from people, No, I didn't tell it, you should tell it.
44:50
What were we on the fifteenth green? There was that? Yeah?
44:52
Was that par five? Right? Yeah? So we were over the green.
44:55
Who was the leader at the time that we were thinking was gonna show
44:58
up? It was like, damn, I forget now whoever was leading the
45:00
tournament at that time. We're like, oh, man, it's his ball,
45:04
so it's gonna be right beside us, gonna be on camera, like,
45:06
we'll get over here, we'll see this off. We're setting up just
45:07
to hang out and be in that spot. And then they're like, no,
45:10
he was in Nick Taylor's group. Yeah, they're like, no,
45:14
it's actually not him, it's it's Ben Martin. We're like, all right,
45:16
well, who Cares's watch a shot. You're betting guys like five to
45:20
one odds on getting up and down and doing all this stuff. And anyway,
45:22
we watched that. The next shot comes along the lines that was the
45:27
first one. Sorry is somebody else? That was Sam Stevens. Actually,
45:29
Ben Martin comes over. In the next version, we're standing up on the
45:31
hill and a dad has his two year old there and he's not even being
45:36
beat like I have a three year old boy. This kid was fun,
45:38
trust me, he was fuck you know, he just wants to be up
45:42
on his shoulders. All he did was lift him on his shoulders. And
45:44
the caddie and Ben Martin are like, get the kid out of here,
45:46
please move the kid. Move the kid. Everyone's like, oh shit,
45:50
that's a little aggressive. Obviously they're pissed off. They went from the bunker,
45:52
transferred to behind the green. Obviously flubs it. It's bad, it's
45:55
up and I didn't flubb it up and over rolls out, misses the post
46:00
and then I just yelled out kid karma and everyone started laughing and all the
46:04
parents and everyone started making fun of this guy for the fact that he hates
46:07
kids. And I think you yelled at it. You're like Ben Martin hates
46:09
kids or somebody yelled at and just hilarious. He an't that bogy. He
46:14
earned that bogey that don't tell me karma is not real. He earned that
46:16
bogey on the thirteenth hole, which was easiest shit he thought it was yet
46:20
yeah, yeah, he was the second easiest hole on the course and he
46:23
boged it because he was an asshole to a kid. You don't mess with
46:27
the kids, man, that's the issue that you can't be doing that.
46:29
And I get like, I would get it if like the kid was being
46:30
annoying, but like, I'm not even a person that likes little kids,
46:34
and I would be have to be objective and say the kid was doing literally
46:37
nothing wrong, literally nothing wrong. Yeah, Nick did get a buy out
46:39
there, that didn't you know, I think it worked in your favor though,
46:43
is the way it worked. He could have made more, but yeah,
46:45
on that note, that was true. And then people were saying,
46:47
well, how's he going to handle the sixteenth hole when he gets there shortly?
46:51
Because if he can't handle this, it's not going to be very good
46:52
over there. But yeah, it was a fun event, great time,
46:54
And that was one of the stories. You telling that story because Ben Martin's
46:58
in the field, Did I just scroll right over him? No? When
47:00
I looked up Ben's Ben Taylor came up and he was talking to Ben Taylor,
47:04
and there is no Ben Martin. So we're for future reference, we
47:07
have to know and yeh, Sean remembers JT. Justin Thomas speaking to justin
47:10
Thomas Wow, forty percent chocks Seeya bye, but he was mean to hoops
47:15
Kid before and ended up missing the cut at that event as well. Like,
47:19
it's just not good karma if you want to be mean to the kids.
47:22
All right, final thoughts on this field. First of all, do
47:25
you like the dynamic pricing? Like? I think, the more cool clever
47:30
things you can do to mix up the game and get people thinking and not
47:31
just have everybody in the same cookie cutter process every week, I enjoy Are
47:36
you with me on that one? Been on it for a while. Yeah,
47:37
I've been asking for this for a while. The one thing I'll take
47:39
away again, it's their first time in a while doing it. I know
47:42
we get it at the Tour Championships and things like that, playing a lot
47:45
of pgadfs. Just saying I do think the dynamic needs to go more both
47:49
ways. Again, like we all we always get golfers at eleven eight or
47:52
whatever, So what's the difference in twelve If you're gonna have the fives,
47:55
let's make it thirteen or twelve nine for feenaw and really start getting some separation
48:00
and some fun in there. But we'll take it as a stepping stone.
48:04
Definitely love that, Like you said, from a perspective of playing the game,
48:07
getting different game theory, you know, stuff that we can find angles
48:09
of attack different. This is a good starting point. I love this.
48:13
Are you buying my theory that they did this because the field is so gross
48:16
that they know people aren't going to want to build a typical lineup, So
48:20
now they're basically saying, hey, go play one of these five thousand dollars,
48:22
assholes, and you can still get five real golfers in your lineup,
48:25
basically making it, you know, softer pricing without really changing the pricing,
48:30
if you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel like that's something because
48:31
you can only do so much when not everybody knows the people that we know
48:36
in this field, and so this will at least make them feel like they
48:37
can get five guys burgers and fries that they like in their lineup. So
48:42
I do think it's possible that that's the setup for it, Like at a
48:45
major you're talking about, when the pricing is super soft, everybody can make
48:49
a lineup of people they know and love and feel like it's the nuts.
48:52
We already built the nuts on this show recently, but just to say it,
48:54
you can definitely build a lineup that you like. The way this is
48:57
set up over under feedale ownership thirty seven percent I had I said thirty eight
49:01
earlier, so over, but I do feel like that's the early look here.
49:06
Yeah, And even if I do end up projecting doing ownership projections,
49:09
because I'm a sweaty try hard that does it and he's let's say he's thirty
49:12
three percent, I almost guarantee you Wednesday night on the stream, I'll have
49:15
him on the steam right just like I told you that JT Steam was coming
49:17
last week, I projected him higher than everybody, and I still said he
49:21
would be over thirty percent, because people love a value and they love course
49:24
history, and like you put those two things together, you just get you
49:28
just get Wednesday Night Steam and people are gonna be like, wait, why
49:30
am I playing these guys when I'm I could just find the extra thousand dollars
49:34
in play fee now, which to me, I don't think Fein's playing that
49:37
well. I think like he mentally is broken right now putting kind of like
49:39
Sungjay is just all around broken. I think Feenow is mentally broken at putting
49:44
that's just my take, Okay, So anything else, Tambo, Nope,
49:50
I feel like we covered it all. He said, we'll be back Wednesday,
49:52
and we got extra shows this week, Hoop, and I'll be on
49:53
tomorrow on this same channel. Like Djen said earlier, make sure you like
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subscribe to the channel and turn on the notifications. Back tomorrow at three pm
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50:04
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50:07
I'll be tonight with Kenny Kim doing the Fantasy Golf Degenerates podcast, catching up
50:10
with him because I didn't get to chat with him after Phoenix last week.
50:13
Shout up to my guy Bearof for covering me there. And then we'll be
50:15
back on Wednesday. You and I to record, you know, for the
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MAO Show, and then of course you've got your stream Wednesday nights that everybody
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knows and loves. I can't wait to see the video. This week.
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don't forget Rule three thousand and eighty. Expensive town sites are shady.
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