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- 0:01Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handel On Demand from KFI AM 640.
- 0:05Speaker 1: KFI AM 640, Bill Handel here.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 0:08Speaker 1: It is a Monday morning, September 21, as we continue
- 0:10Speaker 1: with the show.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Now, the president, who hates any kind.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Of reporting against him, basically views it as almost traitorous.
- 0:33Speaker 2: He has said many times, I am the Constitution, basically
- 0:37Speaker 2: is what he has said. I'm paraphrasing, but I'm not
- 0:39Speaker 2: far off. And if you vote or you rule or
- 0:43Speaker 2: you report against me, then you are against the Constitution
- 0:46Speaker 2: of the United States. I mean, that's a lot of
- 0:49Speaker 2: hubris there. So he is pretty pissed off at CNN, MSNOW,
- 0:54Speaker 2: and Politico. And what he has done is yanked their credentials,
- 0:59Speaker 2: not allowed in the White House anymore. They will not
- 1:02Speaker 2: be allowed as part of the White House pool of reporters,
- 1:06Speaker 2: will not be allowed in the Oval Office.
- 1:09Speaker 3: They're just done. Of course, they filed a lawsuit.
- 1:12Speaker 2: And so now you have a situation where major news outlets, CNN, MSNOW,
- 1:17Speaker 2: and Politico, are have been denied coverage. As we talked
- 1:22Speaker 2: about earlier, Amy brought up Jim Acosta of CNN had
- 1:26Speaker 2: the same problem when he was thrown out because he
- 1:29Speaker 2: was asking the president questions that the president did not like,
- 1:33Speaker 2: and the administration caved. I don't even know if a
- 1:36Speaker 2: lawsuit was filed, maybe, but the administration backed down. We'll
- 1:40Speaker 2: see if it backs down this time, but that was
- 1:41Speaker 2: during the first administration. This is, the president is... feeling
- 1:47Speaker 2: a lot stronger and goes a lot further during his
- 1:50Speaker 2: second term.
- 1:52Speaker 3: And they're, of course, suing on First Amendment grounds.
- 1:55Speaker 2: Now, here is the bigger picture is, are they going
- 1:58Speaker 2: to win?
- 1:58Speaker 3: Yeah, probably, I would guess.
- 2:00Speaker 2: And the president can make it really easy simply by
- 2:03Speaker 2: allowing them in and just not letting any questions, because
- 2:07Speaker 2: it's the White House that chooses which questions will be answered.
- 2:12Speaker 3: So I think it was the easy fix. I think
- 2:14Speaker 3: he wanted to make a point.
- 2:16Speaker 2: And that is if you write about him in a
- 2:20Speaker 2: negative way, that's fake news.
- 2:24Speaker 3: It is a hoax.
- 2:24Speaker 2: He likes to call things a hoax a lot. And
- 2:27Speaker 2: he called what CNN was reporting a hoax. Anything that
- 2:32Speaker 2: basically is not in his favor. And he argues complete bias. Well,
- 2:37Speaker 2: you know, he's right. But there's no bias when they're
- 2:40Speaker 2: for him. You know, Fox is never biased. they just
- 2:46Speaker 2: run anything positive.
- 2:49Speaker 3: About the president. CNN, totally biased.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I mean, I watch, I listen to CNN as well
- 2:55Speaker 2: as Fox and other outlets. MSNOW, I don't even pay
- 2:59Speaker 2: attention to because they're irrelevant. And so we're talking about
- 3:03Speaker 2: Fox and CNN are the big players here. And CNN,
- 3:07Speaker 2: when it does this reporting, it's totally anti-Trump. There's no
- 3:11Speaker 2: question about it. not as anti-Trump as Fox is pro-Trump. Remember,
- 3:18Speaker 2: Fox had to pay a three-quarters, settled for three-quarters of
- 3:22Speaker 2: a billion dollars when it kept reporting that Dominion, which
- 3:28Speaker 2: manufactures those voting machines, that as fact they were reporting
- 3:33Speaker 2: that those votes were rigged. Not It has been reported
- 3:37Speaker 2: that those votes were rigged. They said it as a
- 3:40Speaker 2: matter of fact. That was their reporting. Those votes were rigged.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Those machines were rigged. Three quarters of a million dollars.
- 3:48Speaker 2: By the way, the other company, Smartmatic, I think is
- 3:50Speaker 2: the name, is in the middle of a lawsuit now.
- 3:54Speaker 3: That has not been resolved yet. So which way is
- 3:57Speaker 3: this going to go?
- 3:58Speaker 2: And here's the problem I have with it, because it
- 4:02Speaker 2: is the job of the media company. to rip into
- 4:07Speaker 2: whatever administration is on. It's the job of the right-wing
- 4:11Speaker 2: media to rip into what Democrats do and likewise the
- 4:16Speaker 2: other way. I have never heard of a president who's
- 4:21Speaker 2: been ripped. I mean, for example, covering the old ageness
- 4:27Speaker 2: of Joe Biden. Was there ever an accusation that it
- 4:30Speaker 2: was unconstitutional or whether it was a hoax? No, no.
- 4:36Speaker 2: I mean, they denied it. They said, no, that's not true.
- 4:40Speaker 2: But a hoax, it's fraud. And that's what the president's
- 4:44Speaker 2: position is. If you go against him, you are going
- 4:49Speaker 2: to be denied and they're going to go after you
- 4:51Speaker 2: as much. He's going to go after you as much
- 4:52Speaker 2: as possible. By the way, he's filed defamation suits across
- 4:55Speaker 2: the board. CBS, he filed, they caved.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Who else?
- 5:03Speaker 2: ABC? ABC came back. Disney came back and I think
- 5:08Speaker 2: won that one. But it is a situation where, you know,
- 5:15Speaker 2: I just don't I truly don't understand what's going on
- 5:18Speaker 2: where you have this imperial presidency where you can't even
- 5:21Speaker 2: say the emperor has no clothes, because if you do,
- 5:25Speaker 2: you're basically traitorous. I have a hard time with any
- 5:29Speaker 2: administration claiming that the administration and the Constitution are inseparable.
- 5:35Speaker 2: That if you say anything against the administration, you are
- 5:39Speaker 2: talking against the Constitution of the United States or the
- 5:43Speaker 2: United States. As a matter of fact, that was exactly,
- 5:46Speaker 2: I think, the quote. This was on Truth Social that
- 5:54Speaker 2: the president posted. when he said these news outlets have
- 5:58Speaker 2: been barred and he intends to bar other news outlets
- 6:02Speaker 2: in the future. And I'm going to quote a truth,
- 6:05Speaker 2: a social post outlet should not be able to constantly
- 6:08Speaker 2: write a report fiction and lies when they're covering the
- 6:12Speaker 2: president of the United States, the Trump administration or the
- 6:15Speaker 2: United States of America, because all of them are one thing.
- 6:20Speaker 2: The president is the administration, which is true. The president
- 6:25Speaker 2: is the United States of America. No, the president is
- 6:29Speaker 2: not the United States of America. The president is elected
- 6:33Speaker 2: as our chief, our chief of state and head of state,
- 6:39Speaker 2: as well as the most powerful position, the.
- 6:42Speaker 3: Head of the head of state. the executive branch.
- 6:48Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean the executive branch is the Constitution.
- 6:51Speaker 2: If you say anything against them, you are saying you're
- 6:55Speaker 2: talking against the Constitution. That's not true. And so now,
- 7:02Speaker 2: do these organizations, do they cave? I don't think so.
- 7:07Speaker 2: I don't think so. When Pete Hegseth denied a bunch
- 7:12Speaker 2: of these news organizations, Media access to the Pentagon, coming
- 7:18Speaker 2: up with some BS excuse about how they go through
- 7:21Speaker 2: the halls and they're able to get classified information that
- 7:25Speaker 2: they did, which is complete crap. And they just come
- 7:27Speaker 2: up with crap. But he limited them from covering the Pentagon.
- 7:32Speaker 2: And they said, OK, we're done. They gave up their
- 7:35Speaker 2: press passes to the Pentagon, then cave on that one.
- 7:39Speaker 2: So this is a story that keeps on going and
- 7:42Speaker 2: going and going.
- 7:43Speaker 3: Okay.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Now, a story last Tuesday, a horrific story. An NBC4 helicopter,
- 7:48Speaker 2: news helicopter, carrying reporter Ileana Moreno and the pilot crashed
- 7:54Speaker 2: covering a news story in Chatsworth. And both died along
- 7:58Speaker 2: with a bystander. And this helicopter, Will Kohlschreiber, had been
- 8:04Speaker 2: flying on this helicopter doing sports for five years.
- 8:07Speaker 1: News.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Pardon?
- 8:09Speaker 1: News.
- 8:10Speaker 2: News. Covering news. And this story that came out of
- 8:14Speaker 2: the LA Times is kind of interesting. And that is
- 8:16Speaker 2: the way it works with news helicopters is something breaks
- 8:21Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're circling around or they're
- 8:24Speaker 2: following a high-speed chase and they sort of have an
- 8:27Speaker 2: unwritten rule that certain positions are going to be held.
- 8:32Speaker 2: And it's all about breaking news first. So, Will, I
- 8:35Speaker 2: want to throw this at you first of all. Why
- 8:38Speaker 2: is it so important that, for example, breaking news and
- 8:43Speaker 2: 30 seconds later, every news outlet has the same news?
- 8:48Speaker 2: Why is that 30, 40 seconds that critical to these
- 8:51Speaker 2: news outlets?
- 8:52Speaker 3: Good question.
- 8:53Speaker 1: I mean, as you tune around, when you see something
- 8:57Speaker 1: on one station and you see it there first, you
- 9:00Speaker 1: tend to just stick there because they happen to be
- 9:04Speaker 1: the one that got it first. I mean, it's about ratings,
- 9:07Speaker 1: I guess. Do you really think ratings make it or
- 9:09Speaker 1: it's just bragging rights? Bragging rights, but it comes down
- 9:13Speaker 1: to viewers. It comes down to number of viewers positively.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Even though, you know, while they're doing the breaking news,
- 9:19Speaker 1: they don't sell any commercials. But, you know, overall, it
- 9:23Speaker 1: just increases their number of viewers.
- 9:25Speaker 3: OK, so you're.
- 9:26Speaker 2: Flying around out there and you've got a major story
- 9:33Speaker 2: going on, you know, a major crime issue going on.
- 9:36Speaker 2: or a high-speed chase, and or something that the helicopters,
- 9:42Speaker 2: you'd have a lot of news helicopters out there.
- 9:44Speaker 3: Are you concerned about running into each other? Does that
- 9:47Speaker 3: go through your mind?
- 9:48Speaker 1: Oh, heck yeah, especially if it's something like a chase
- 9:50Speaker 1: where the person's driving crazy and they're having to deal
- 9:54Speaker 1: with air traffic controllers at the same time. And, you know,
- 9:57Speaker 1: everybody in the helicopter is looking out, even the reporters.
- 10:00Speaker 1: even though they're focused on what's going on on the ground,
- 10:02Speaker 1: they're looking, you know, well, that guy's, oh, five is
- 10:04Speaker 1: getting kind of close. Seven's kind of getting a little,
- 10:08Speaker 1: you know, same altitude. So yeah, it's a group effort
- 10:11Speaker 1: for sure.
- 10:12Speaker 2: So do they talk to each other and say, you're
- 10:14Speaker 2: too close, move away, leave me alone? Yep.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Yep.
- 10:18Speaker 1: There's a frequency that they use here in the L.A.
- 10:20Speaker 1: area that they all talk to each other in addition
- 10:22Speaker 1: to the air traffic controller. So like if it's in
- 10:25Speaker 1: the Van Nuys area, for instance, like Chatsworth was, they'd
- 10:28Speaker 1: be talking to the air traffic controller at Van Nuys Airport,
- 10:31Speaker 1: but also to each other on a side channel. Hey,
- 10:34Speaker 1: you guys are getting kind of close or could you
- 10:36Speaker 1: move a little over that way or.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Whatever, you know. But yeah.
- 10:40Speaker 2: I'm assuming these helicopter pilots have to be really seasoned
- 10:43Speaker 2: and experienced, because if you're talking about them looking around
- 10:46Speaker 2: and talking to air traffic and talking to each other
- 10:49Speaker 2: and covering the story and getting as low as possible,
- 10:52Speaker 2: all happening at the same time, that's a lot of
- 10:53Speaker 2: balls being juggled.
- 10:55Speaker 1: They are really good. Yeah, they're they're they're they're extremely
- 10:59Speaker 1: experienced in most cases.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 11:01Speaker 2: And from what I understand, this may have been a
- 11:05Speaker 2: technical aim that. just a malfunction of the equipment. And
- 11:10Speaker 2: you knew you, I mean, did you work with Eliana
- 11:12Speaker 2: or Moreno or did you just happen to know her?
- 11:15Speaker 3: I saw her. Yeah, we worked.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Well, when I was working with NBC four, she was
- 11:20Speaker 1: working at the time with KTLA five and I think
- 11:23Speaker 1: maybe the CBS station as well, but mostly channel five
- 11:26Speaker 1: at the time. And she'd fill in sometimes on channel four,
- 11:29Speaker 1: they'd move around. Cause we, we both worked for angel
- 11:31Speaker 1: city air there in Pacoima. And yeah, I, you know,
- 11:36Speaker 1: I didn't spend a ton of time with her, but
- 11:38Speaker 1: she was always just very sweet and, uh, just, you know,
- 11:41Speaker 1: eager to learn. And she learned a lot over the years.
- 11:44Speaker 1: She got so much better as every year passed and
- 11:46Speaker 1: it's just, it's sad.
- 11:48Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
- 11:49Speaker 2: And so, uh, there you are. And we used to
- 11:51Speaker 2: have a KFI in the sky with, um, with an airplane.
- 11:57Speaker 2: It was, uh, Mike Nolan had his own airplane, uh,
- 11:59Speaker 2: small that was, and airplanes at least are better in
- 12:02Speaker 2: terms of traffic because they can zip back and forth
- 12:05Speaker 2: across the city. Helicopters take a lot longer. And it's
- 12:09Speaker 2: come now to it makes almost no sense to have
- 12:11Speaker 2: a traffic reporter in the air because you have all
- 12:15Speaker 2: of these computer screens and you're looking at it because
- 12:17Speaker 2: you are KFI on the ground.
- 12:19Speaker 3: Yes.
- 12:20Speaker 2: And we did that for a while, by the way.
- 12:22Speaker 2: It was KFI in the sky. And then there was
- 12:25Speaker 2: no mention. about KFI in the sky. Actually, it was
- 12:29Speaker 2: for a little while. And then it all stopped. I
- 12:32Speaker 2: would say, and now let's go to Will Kohlschreiber, KFI
- 12:35Speaker 2: on the ground. And they sort of stopped me from
- 12:38Speaker 2: doing it.
- 12:38Speaker 3: They didn't like that?
- 12:39Speaker 2: No, they got a little upset about that. And then,
- 12:43Speaker 2: I mean, you do traffic, obviously. To me, it seems
- 12:46Speaker 2: like it makes so much more sense the way you
- 12:49Speaker 2: do it than flying around up there.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Now, yes.
- 12:52Speaker 1: Back in the day, and not even that long ago,
- 12:54Speaker 1: we didn't have cell.
- 12:56Speaker 3: Phones in every car that were reporting speeds.
- 12:58Speaker 1: That's what sends in the speed to Google Maps and
- 13:03Speaker 1: Waze and all the apps. But back before we had that,
- 13:07Speaker 1: we just had the CHP dispatch and callers, tipsters. Those
- 13:12Speaker 1: two things were our sources. So To get eyes on,
- 13:15Speaker 1: to really know what was going on, you had to
- 13:17Speaker 1: be out there over it. You had to be there.
- 13:19Speaker 1: And now it's not quite as critical. There are times when, oh,
- 13:22Speaker 1: I wish I could verify something or double-check something, but,
- 13:26Speaker 1: you know, what are you.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Going to do?
- 13:28Speaker 2: Yeah, and you could have talked to the old KFI reporters,
- 13:31Speaker 2: but they're all dead because they crashed.
- 13:33Speaker 3: No. Okay. Just one.
- 13:35Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Amy, you're shaking your head. Stop it. Does that surprise you? Okay.
- 13:42Speaker 2: Anyway, before we go on to the story talking about
- 13:46Speaker 2: springtime for Hitler, the news just broke that the president,
- 13:51Speaker 2: as you know, has replaced, has kicked out MSNOW and
- 13:56Speaker 2: CNN and Politico from the White House. And the major
- 14:01Speaker 2: television networks are standing with CNN. declining to replace its
- 14:06Speaker 2: White House pool crew. The way it works, and so
- 14:09Speaker 2: Amy and I talked about this earlier, is that there
- 14:11Speaker 2: is a revolving group of reporters of news outlets that
- 14:16Speaker 2: go in and among them, one major one can share,
- 14:20Speaker 2: they share information with each other. In other words, one
- 14:24Speaker 2: will go in and actually video it and then that
- 14:27Speaker 2: is shared with the other news outlets.
- 14:29Speaker 3: And they also ask questions on behalf of the other
- 14:32Speaker 3: news outlets. Oh, thank you for that.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Yeah. And now they're all saying we're not going to
- 14:36Speaker 2: be part of it. We are not going to be
- 14:38Speaker 2: sharing that pool. We will not have our reporters there.
- 14:41Speaker 2: And that includes Fox, by the way. Even Fox has
- 14:45Speaker 2: come to the CNN position. And so that's kind of interesting.
- 14:54Speaker 2: So is that going to only be the acolytes of
- 14:57Speaker 2: Donald Trump, the ones that love him, and there won't
- 14:59Speaker 2: be any reporting.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Against him, Amy?
- 15:02Speaker 2: No.
- 15:05Speaker 3: I don't know. Okay. Are they going to have reporters
- 15:09Speaker 3: in there, but just not the pool camera? Have no idea.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Isn't that interesting? So we'll see who wins that one.
- 15:15Speaker 2: I think the media is going to win that one
- 15:17Speaker 2: if I have to. Now, I want to share with
- 15:20Speaker 2: you a story that I take particular interest in. As
- 15:24Speaker 2: you know, World War II stories, I really, that's my wheelhouse,
- 15:30Speaker 2: the history of World War II, mainly because my dad.
- 15:33Speaker 3: Fought in the war.
- 15:34Speaker 2: So there is a television series called Babylon Berlin, which
- 15:42Speaker 2: is being filmed in Germany. And it's, let me tell
- 15:48Speaker 2: you what they had to do. Okay. They had to
- 15:52Speaker 2: set up outside a theater in Berlin. And it's the
- 15:57Speaker 2: final season of this show that's set in the Weimar
- 15:59Speaker 2: Republic before the Nazis came to power. during his rise
- 16:03Speaker 2: to power, Hitler's rise to power. And the scene called
- 16:06Speaker 2: for a group of Nazi henchmen in swastika armbands, I'm
- 16:11Speaker 2: sure you've seen video and photographs, to disrupt a crowd,
- 16:16Speaker 2: to beat up the Jews in there, to harass them,
- 16:18Speaker 2: to shut down stores, et cetera. And so when they
- 16:22Speaker 2: were filming that particular scene, tall barriers had to be
- 16:28Speaker 2: erected around the perimeter of the entire shoot. So there
- 16:32Speaker 2: would be no onlookers at all. No one could be
- 16:35Speaker 2: a looky-loo. Like, you know, they film on the streets
- 16:39Speaker 2: of L.A.
- 16:40Speaker 3: And people just love to watch because it's out in
- 16:43Speaker 3: the open.
- 16:44Speaker 2: And when there is a period piece, I, for example,
- 16:47Speaker 2: used to live in Hancock Park adjacent. And the houses
- 16:51Speaker 2: along that street were built in 1927 in the old
- 16:53Speaker 2: street lamps. It was always used for films that were
- 16:58Speaker 2: period pieces of the 1920s.
- 17:00Speaker 3: But it was public. I mean, we went there, we watched,
- 17:02Speaker 3: it was kind of neat.
- 17:03Speaker 2: And then of course, traffic was shut down and we
- 17:06Speaker 2: wanted to kill the directors. So you had these, basically
- 17:12Speaker 2: these fences around the entire shoot. We're talking about an
- 17:17Speaker 2: entire area of town. And not only were these fences,
- 17:24Speaker 2: these barriers erected around the shoot's perimeter. So onlookers couldn't
- 17:29Speaker 2: look There were swastikas that, of course, were worn because
- 17:35Speaker 2: these were Nazi henchmen. And when the crew was not
- 17:39Speaker 2: filming during the breaks, all the swastikas were removed from
- 17:44Speaker 2: their arms. Flags were taken down and put away during
- 17:49Speaker 2: the break. I'm talking about lunch breaks. They took them
- 17:52Speaker 2: all down and put them away.
- 17:54Speaker 1: All right.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Now, let me finish the segment about this television company. film,
- 18:01Speaker 2: this television show in Germany. It's called Babylon Berlin, and
- 18:07Speaker 2: it's set in the 20s prior to Hitler taking control
- 18:12Speaker 2: of Germany, the Weimar Republic. Hitler took over in 1932.
- 18:16Speaker 2: This was in the 20s when there was a democratic
- 18:19Speaker 2: government there for a little.
- 18:20Speaker 3: While, in any case. And so here they are. They're
- 18:27Speaker 3: There was one.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Scene or several scenes, and this is supposed to be
- 18:30Speaker 2: shot on the streets of Berlin. Well, it was done
- 18:34Speaker 2: on the streets, but tall barriers were put around the
- 18:38Speaker 2: perimeter of the entire shoot. So onlookers couldn't see it.
- 18:42Speaker 2: Swastikas that were out there and these Nazi flags had
- 18:46Speaker 2: to be hidden when the film, when the crew was
- 18:49Speaker 2: not filming. I'm talking about during lunchtime. They had to
- 18:52Speaker 2: take it down. Only when actual film was done. There
- 18:57Speaker 2: is a song, the Horse Vessel song, which was basically
- 19:00Speaker 2: the national anthem of the Nazis. And that's been banned.
- 19:04Speaker 2: And so it was silently mouthed on set. They weren't
- 19:08Speaker 2: actually singing it. They were just mouthing it. They were
- 19:11Speaker 2: lip syncing it. And then the song was inserted in post-production.
- 19:17Speaker 2: And so why is there so much of these controls
- 19:22Speaker 2: put on there?
- 19:23Speaker 3: I mean, it is really nuts.
- 19:26Speaker 2: In terms of what they have to do. As a
- 19:27Speaker 2: matter of fact, even to the point where the biggest
- 19:31Speaker 2: studio there, Babelsberg, which is being used, its back lot,
- 19:35Speaker 2: which is being used to film the streets of Berlin
- 19:38Speaker 2: during the 20s, it's actually an enclosed street with walls
- 19:42Speaker 2: around it, so no one can even look.
- 19:46Speaker 3: So why is it so crazy there?
- 19:49Speaker 2: Well, because Germany has made it illegal to show a
- 19:54Speaker 2: Nazi flag, to show the swastika, to call yourself a Nazi.
- 20:02Speaker 2: It is a criminal violation in Germany. That's what happened
- 20:05Speaker 2: after World War II. The Germans came to the table
- 20:08Speaker 2: pretty quickly. And they took, they owned what happened during
- 20:14Speaker 2: the Holocaust, unlike the Turks, who to this day deny
- 20:19Speaker 2: there was the Armenian Holocaust in 1914, when a million
- 20:23Speaker 2: and a half, give or take, Armenians were slaughtered. The
- 20:26Speaker 2: Germans came to the table pretty quickly, and they owned
- 20:30Speaker 2: what happened during the Holocaust and passed laws that anything
- 20:35Speaker 2: that is indicative of the Nazi era has to, cannot
- 20:40Speaker 2: be shown. So when you see these far-right figures and
- 20:44Speaker 2: far-right parties in Germany, they call themselves ultra-nationalists. You will
- 20:49Speaker 2: not hear the word Nazi whatsoever. Now, we have the
- 20:53Speaker 2: Communist Party. Even though it was illegal to be a communist,
- 20:57Speaker 2: we're fine. We bring it back. You know, hey, we're communists.
- 21:00Speaker 2: The law allows us to do that. You can't do
- 21:01Speaker 2: that in Germany. Absolutely not. And it was, you know,
- 21:06Speaker 2: that there is there was Nazi propaganda. There were booklets
- 21:12Speaker 2: that were there may still be where you had literature, booklets, pamphlets,
- 21:17Speaker 2: books that were secretly distributed throughout Germany and have been
- 21:22Speaker 2: for years.
- 21:23Speaker 3: You know where those are printed up?
- 21:24Speaker 2: You have any idea where the Nazi publication capital of
- 21:29Speaker 2: the world is?
- 21:30Speaker 3: Lincoln, Nebraska. That's where it all comes from.
- 21:34Speaker 2: In the United States, where you can print whatever the
- 21:36Speaker 2: hell you want, you can print up Nazi propaganda, and
- 21:40Speaker 2: if you bring it into Germany, you are now violating.
- 21:43Speaker 2: It's a criminal act to violate it. That is how
- 21:49Speaker 2: nuts they are. But, you know, it makes a great
- 21:52Speaker 2: deal of sense. Did you know that the number one
- 21:54Speaker 2: country after the war that helped beyond the United States,
- 21:58Speaker 2: that helped Israel, was Germany? Matter of fact, early days
- 22:03Speaker 2: of Early days of Israel, you'd go to Tel Aviv
- 22:08Speaker 2: or you'd go to Jerusalem, and the taxi cabs were
- 22:10Speaker 2: for the most part Mercedes-Benz because of what Germany did
- 22:16Speaker 2: during the war and how sensitive they are to mentioning
- 22:20Speaker 2: the Holocaust or to being anti-Semitic. And a whole lot
- 22:24Speaker 2: of Jews went back to Berlin, which no one thought
- 22:26Speaker 2: they ever would. So I have to keep it absolutely
- 22:32Speaker 2: clear Locked up. If you have a Nazi symbol or
- 22:34Speaker 2: a Nazi flag in a film, first of all, you
- 22:37Speaker 2: have to ask permission from the government to even have it.
- 22:40Speaker 2: And the government allows you to have it by permit.
- 22:46Speaker 3: And the film, the.
- 22:49Speaker 2: The film or the television show has to specify exactly
- 22:53Speaker 2: what they're going to use it for, what the scene is,
- 22:55Speaker 2: how long they're going to have it, and the safeguards
- 22:58Speaker 2: they're taking it so it cannot be seen in public
- 23:01Speaker 2: or cannot be inseminated. And one of the fears has
- 23:04Speaker 2: gotten tougher and tougher because of cell phones. And one
- 23:08Speaker 2: of the legislators said, can you imagine if we had
- 23:11Speaker 2: a swastika on a building, a swastika flag or one
- 23:15Speaker 2: of those banners, and with a cell phone, someone got
- 23:18Speaker 2: hold of it?
- 23:19Speaker 3: Or took a photo of it, can you imagine how.
- 23:22Speaker 2: Quickly that would spread around the world and what it
- 23:24Speaker 2: would do to the reputation of a democratic anti-Nazi Germany?
- 23:31Speaker 3: Okay, coming up.
- 23:34Speaker 2: If you want to kill and eat a bald eagle,
- 23:38Speaker 2: and by the way, they're not bad. I mean, breast
- 23:42Speaker 2: of eagle is actually pretty tasty. I've had it and it's...
- 23:47Speaker 2: It's not bad, not bad at all. I'll come back
- 23:50Speaker 2: with that because the rules have changed completely.
- 23:54Speaker 3: There really is no.
- 23:56Speaker 2: Such thing as an endangered animal anymore as far as
- 23:59Speaker 2: the feds are concerned.
- 24:00Speaker 3: I'll share that with you when we come back.
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