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Mac & Bone Show - Mike Kaye Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: college football content coming up to later this hour, including
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  Speaker 1: Pete Golding responding to questions about being investigated for tampering
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  Speaker 1: with Luke Farelli while he was in class at Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: we know this man is going to help us bring
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  Speaker 1: great Panther content to y'all. He does it constantly in
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  Speaker 1: the Charlotte Observer. He and Alexetlo do a great job
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  Speaker 1: covering this team and they'll be out in about a
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  Speaker 1: training camp. Mike k, Charlotte Observer Panthers beat writer, joins
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  Speaker 1: us now on the mac en Bone Show. Mike, how
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  Speaker 1: you feeling, man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Well? The weather outside is frightfulland I'm not looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to that. I love training camp, but I don't really
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  Speaker 3: like getting great dog.
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  Speaker 1: I heard it's a rough one and that could hinder
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  Speaker 1: you as you try to write on your notepad. Are
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  Speaker 1: you bringing back the training can't practice notepad? I'm a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's me so yeah, I've got to figure out.
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  Speaker 3: I've actually went to sleep trying to figure out graded
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  Speaker 3: ways and funny ways that I can integrate it today
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  Speaker 3: without it being like a completely just failed attempts for humor,
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  Speaker 3: because I could lose countless notebooks over this rain.
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  Speaker 2: With that notebook when you're writing notes down, Mike, what
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  Speaker 2: position battle entering camp most intrigues you?
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  Speaker 1: What are you focused on?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it would have been the left tackle battle until
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  Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, but I think right now
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  Speaker 3: it's got to be wide receiver three. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: really think they are trying to do everything they tend
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  Speaker 3: to put the zavierly get in position to particularly it's
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  Speaker 3: his z position, get him out in space, get him
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  Speaker 3: to avoid press, get him to just do what he
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  Speaker 3: needs to do to be a productive guy with the
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  Speaker 3: ball in his hands. Chris Brassel played the exposition for
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  Speaker 3: the bulk of OTA's and minie camp with tehero McMillan
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  Speaker 3: sideline with a foot injury. So I think with McMillan back,
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  Speaker 3: we'll see how versatile they try to make them.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned left tackle would have been your number one
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  Speaker 1: storyline to watch now, you know, or the battle to
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  Speaker 1: watch now? It may be the number one storyline to
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  Speaker 1: see Monroe freeling the rookie quicker than we expected in
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  Speaker 1: there with the ones at right tackle. He came out
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  Speaker 1: and everybody knows his physical talents and the upside, but
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  Speaker 1: many people that know way more about watching his O
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  Speaker 1: line tape than me Mike have pointed out, Oh, the
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  Speaker 1: technique is roll. Oh, his functional strength needs to improve.
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  Speaker 1: How much should we be worried? Do you think about
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  Speaker 1: him having to play right tackle from the jump? What
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  Speaker 1: do you think?
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  Speaker 3: They've said all that same stuff in twenty thirteen about
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  Speaker 3: Lane Johnson, So I think what And look that he's
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  Speaker 3: been my op for him since March or April, right
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  Speaker 3: before the draft. So I think for him it's just
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  Speaker 3: a matter of coaching. It's a matter of reps. The
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  Speaker 3: whole thing with him is, yeah, he's got those physical tools,
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  Speaker 3: but he doesn't have a lot of experience. Well, now
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  Speaker 3: he's going to get a full training camp to get
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  Speaker 3: as many reps as possible at that right tackle position
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  Speaker 3: opposite Rob Hunt. And also, I would say from an
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  Speaker 3: optimistic standpoint, he doesn't have a lot of experience at
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  Speaker 3: left tackle. Yes, he was a starting left tackle last year,
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  Speaker 3: but he hasn't developed all these unchangeable habits that would
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  Speaker 3: deter him from moving to the right side of the line.
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  Speaker 3: So I think there's the benefit there. They've also cross
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  Speaker 3: trained him a bit, going back to the offseason program.
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  Speaker 3: I think for the most part, there's an adflet to
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  Speaker 3: serendipity here in that both Lee Hunter and and Roe
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  Speaker 3: Frieling were drafted at premium spots at positions where injuries
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  Speaker 3: are piling up. So I think they feel good about
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  Speaker 3: where they're at with Monroe Freely, and they also resigned
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  Speaker 3: Brady Christiansen and so and forth. Sight has plenty of
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  Speaker 3: experience and right tackle as well.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, you mentioned monitoring the wide receiver three battle, it's
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  Speaker 2: also intriguing the back end of the wide receiver spot
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  Speaker 2: Metchi Horn, Tremaine and all those guys. David Moore, how
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  Speaker 2: do you think it shakes out with the room in
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  Speaker 2: total and who ends up making this thing?
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  Speaker 3: Well, bryceon Tremaine I think is the fifth guy at minimum.
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  Speaker 3: I think his special teams value. His ability to play
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  Speaker 3: all three wide receiver spot puts him in a very
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  Speaker 3: very good position. Now when you talk about David Moore
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  Speaker 3: and John MESHI they're kind of competing with Tremaine and
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  Speaker 3: Xavier Lagett and Chris Brasel for snaps because they're not
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  Speaker 3: necessarily just going to be these guys that play on
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  Speaker 3: special teams. And then Jimmy Horn is a guy where
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  Speaker 3: I think he really needs to develop a role on
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  Speaker 3: special teams to make this team. I'd also throw Ja
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  Speaker 3: siem Reed, a practice squad holdover, into that mix as well.
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  Speaker 3: He's a guy who had an impressive Ricky Mini camp,
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  Speaker 3: impressive off season program, catches the ball well. So I
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  Speaker 3: think it's pretty open ended beyond Tremaine. Of that group,
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  Speaker 3: John Metchi's not a special teamer and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: going to make it very hard unless he can force
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  Speaker 3: the team to move on from Xavier la Guette or
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  Speaker 3: bryceon Tremaine via trade because he's playing so well. You
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  Speaker 3: just there's only so many spots. And I think that
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  Speaker 3: you also deal with the aspect of AJ Dillon, Libe Franks,
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  Speaker 3: James Mitchell. Those guys are going to factor into the
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  Speaker 3: pass catcher playmaker battles as well. So it's a matter
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  Speaker 3: of numbers at other positions. Do you really want to
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  Speaker 3: keep seven wide receivers when you're gonna get into the
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  Speaker 3: pass catcher playmaker battles as well? So it's a matter
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  Speaker 3: of numbers at other positions. Do you really want to
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  Speaker 3: keep seven wide receivers when you're gonna keep five active
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  Speaker 3: on game day?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be another one. Just like last year.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be watching those numbers big time. Mike Cage
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  Speaker 1: joining us Charlotte Observer Charlotte Observer dot com, him and Alexelo.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're gonna cover every aspect of Panthers' training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure if you're not doing Panther fandom right, if
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  Speaker 1: you're not reading those guys here during training camp Mike.
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  Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball, Derek Brown yesterday
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  Speaker 1: said he said, I'm not putting a number in terms
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  Speaker 1: of like where we can be ranked, but this defense
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  Speaker 1: has a high ceiling. He did go there, we've kind
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  Speaker 1: of been using that top ten like wanting them to
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  Speaker 1: be a top ten unit. Do you think that's possible?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think is the is the fair goal
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  Speaker 1: for this defense and how good they can be this year?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I know the narrative has been that they overpaid
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  Speaker 3: for Jalen Phillips, but with this Vic Fangio style defense,
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  Speaker 3: there are only about like five to seven guys in
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  Speaker 3: the league who can truly do that position justice from
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  Speaker 3: what he jarro everro asks them to do. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you got to drop and coverage, you got to rush
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  Speaker 3: the pastor you gotta set the edge. You've got to
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  Speaker 3: literally do everything at that outside linebacker position in the scheme,
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  Speaker 3: and Jalen Phillips is a great pit for that. He's
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  Speaker 3: also what I would call a force multiplier. He makes
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  Speaker 3: guys better around him. Is he going to get a
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  Speaker 3: ton of sacks? Probably not, but he's going to create
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  Speaker 3: a ton of pressure, which is gonna be good for
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  Speaker 3: Derek Brown, good for Dick Gordon, and thus good for
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  Speaker 3: the guys behind them at linebacker, at safety, at corner.
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  Speaker 3: If j C. Horton can stay healthy, if Mike Jackson
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  Speaker 3: can stay healthy, this is probably the best cornerback group
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  Speaker 3: in the division. And I think Devin Lloyd fall off
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  Speaker 3: of the cliff from what he was able to accomplish
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  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville as a blitzer. As a guy in coverage
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  Speaker 3: is an interception ballhawk. I think top ten is realistic.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think they are going to somehow be the
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  Speaker 3: top defense in the league or top five, but I
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  Speaker 3: think top ten is realistic.
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  Speaker 2: Mike, this debate over the grass that the entire league
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  Speaker 2: is having, Robert Hunt spoke out about it yesterday. What's
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  Speaker 2: your what's your take on the whole situation? And when
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  Speaker 2: guys like Robert Hunt speak out publicly. Do you think
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  Speaker 2: it matters at all or ultimately is this gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to be a big discussion within the CBA and the
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  Speaker 2: owners eventually.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think this is going to be
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  Speaker 3: something that has to wait for the CBA. But they
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  Speaker 3: should be playing on grass. I mean, I think when
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  Speaker 3: the preference of this many players and for this long
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  Speaker 3: has been grass grass grass. I understand that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like Big of America Stadium has other business ventures going on, right,
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  Speaker 3: But I think across the league, I think you're seeing
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  Speaker 3: a major resistance and this is going to be a
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  Speaker 3: massive talking point of the future CBA talks. It's got
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  Speaker 3: to be. Players are being too upfront and out there
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  Speaker 3: about it. It's it's almost like a baseball salary cap
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  Speaker 3: style issue. I mean, this is this is not just
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  Speaker 3: about the integrity of the game, but keeping guys healthy,
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  Speaker 3: and I think they're going to push for this hard.
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  Speaker 1: All right, last thing we want to ask you something
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  Speaker 1: we've been kicking around with our fellow Panther fans today
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  Speaker 1: is like, Okay, what what are fair expectations for them
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  Speaker 1: this season? Like? What do they have to do Mike
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  Speaker 1: for this season? And obviously they get a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: key injuries. It kind of throws that off. But like,
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  Speaker 1: assuming they're pretty darn healthy, Like, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: a fair thing to ask for as fans from this
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  Speaker 1: team is.
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  Speaker 3: Like as far as a record goes, yeah, record.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of achievements, Yeah, what do you think?
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  Speaker 3: I mean? I think above five hundred is a pretty
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  Speaker 3: fair way to start. I think they are better than
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  Speaker 3: what they were last year. I think the roster's been
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  Speaker 3: upgraded in quite a few positions. I also think the
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  Speaker 3: depth has been upgraded in quite a few positions. Granted
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  Speaker 3: now they've got injuries at spots that are pretty prominent
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  Speaker 3: and important. I think this the problem with the NFC
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  Speaker 3: South is they're kind of like the NFC West from
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  Speaker 3: like a decade and a half ago, where everybody just
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  Speaker 3: beats each other silly, and so it kind of dilutes
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  Speaker 3: the overarching success of these records. But I think as
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  Speaker 3: much as I think the Saints have improved in ways,
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  Speaker 3: I think the Falcons have improved a lot of a
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  Speaker 3: big Kevin Stefanski guy. I think what they've done from
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  Speaker 3: a coaching staff perspective to match their talent is pretty
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  Speaker 3: pretty good. And the Buccaneers seem like they're falling into
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  Speaker 3: the ocean. Mike Evans was so excited about their future
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  Speaker 3: that he decided to bolt for San Francisco. I think,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's anybody's division, but I think the Panthers
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  Speaker 3: are in a good spot to finish no worse than second.
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  Speaker 3: So I think if they can push forward and they
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  Speaker 3: can use their talent widely and avoid catastrophic injury, if
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  Speaker 3: Bryce Young can take them, I mean, I can't believe
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  Speaker 3: it's taking this long and talk about Bryce Young in
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  Speaker 3: this interview, But if Bryce Young can take the next step,
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  Speaker 3: he can do what he's shown flashes of and they
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  Speaker 3: can start early. That's been the problem with this team
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  Speaker 3: is they don't start early in the regular season, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't start early in games. If they can play
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  Speaker 3: as well early on as they tend to finish, I
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  Speaker 3: think they're going to be in a really good spot
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  Speaker 3: to contend, not only for the playoffs, but for a
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  Speaker 3: premium spot amongst division winners.
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  Speaker 1: Love it. Man. By the way, we're getting a tip
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  Speaker 1: here from our Texter Rachel, that wants us to tell
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  Speaker 1: you that I have never heard of such sorcery that
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  Speaker 1: scuba divers have notepads. They can use underwater. Maybe they're
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon. So that is she's trying to help you
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  Speaker 1: with a notepad you can write on at camp in
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  Speaker 1: the rain.
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  Speaker 3: Mike K.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go.
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  Speaker 3: You said this, You said this caller, this texture is Rachel. Yes, okay, cool. Well,
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  Speaker 3: when I get one of these, I'm going to have
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  Speaker 3: to give her a shout out in the notebook.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, she's got to make it.
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  Speaker 3: If this notebook survives the rain today, maybe she'll get one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, good.
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  Speaker 3: Always appreciate you guys having me. Hopefully I can function
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  Speaker 3: as a person that scribbles down thing.
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  Speaker 1: You got this, You would go so viral. If you
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  Speaker 1: wore scuba gear out there. Oh yeah, yeah, I add
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  Speaker 1: that in there too, that would really be sweet. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not the story, that's ah he said, you forget both laugh.
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  Speaker 1: This man's an actual journalist. But we know Bone and
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  Speaker 1: I we were the opposite. We would prefer to be
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  Speaker 1: the story last arrogant to do it later on. All right, brother,
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  Speaker 1: All right, Mike K. Looking forward to reading you and
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  Speaker 1: Alex and all those Charlotte Observer coverage. You can't man,
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  Speaker 1: keep up to good work.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, guys,