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Men’s humanity still terrifies feminists | HBR Talk 389 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk three point eighty nine.
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  Speaker 1: Men's humanity still terrorize, terrorizes feminists, terrifies feminists and all
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  Speaker 1: of that. Jazz I wrote the title and I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: even remember it. That's pretty bad. I'm your host, Hannah
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  Speaker 1: Wallen here with nonsense annihilator Lawen Brooks and the personification
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  Speaker 1: to talk about another article that is going to piss
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  Speaker 1: you the fuck off and a Martinez working in the
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  Speaker 1: background to make things happen that I still haven't taken
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  Speaker 1: the time to educate myself on, and of course obviously
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  Speaker 1: it's it's because I'm a girl.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I just haven't taken any time off from work and
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  Speaker 1: in the last forever really since I Seemi twenty nineteen, actually,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't taken any time off from work that didn't
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  Speaker 1: involve me being squatted to the hospital. So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: But in any case, we have an interesting show tonight.
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  Speaker 1: The article we're going to be looking at. This title,
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  Speaker 1: I think is the title of the documentary that was
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  Speaker 1: that the article is about, and it is yet another
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  Speaker 1: article by a woman about in cells because nobody is
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  Speaker 1: as much of an expert on men and their thoughts
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  Speaker 1: and their feelings and their behaviors and some chick right.
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  Speaker 1: When we're not being dedossed by angry feminists. That hasn't
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  Speaker 1: happened in a few months, but it has happened frequently.
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  Speaker 1: But with all of that out of the way, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into the meathead, I mean the meat of the article.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, usually guys get called meathead, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it's appropriate for this chick. She doesn't push back at all.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think on the idea that there are guys
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  Speaker 1: who are in in cell forums. Lots of guys who
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  Speaker 1: are in in cell forums simply because they are lonely.
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  Speaker 1: They are tired of being kicked when they're down, and
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  Speaker 1: they want to have friends that they can talk to
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  Speaker 1: about their experiences and maybe assess them together. And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: So her first line pretty much tells you how this
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  Speaker 1: article is going to be. Some men hate women and
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  Speaker 1: some go online to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Are we're not going to address the title. There's there's
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  Speaker 3: jokes to be made there. I know that I mean,
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  Speaker 3: can it can a trap be an in cell? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is a crossover.
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  Speaker 2: There's the there's the insult, the trans pipeline.
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  Speaker 3: Well, a lot of traps are in Cells's to be
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  Speaker 3: brought up, especially if they become traps long before they
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  Speaker 3: have any chance to engage in a sex life. And
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  Speaker 3: once once they've uh, once they've butterflied their genitals, they're
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  Speaker 3: unlikely to have a really technically lose their virginities. So
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  Speaker 3: it's then we're going to talk about that. Then we're
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  Speaker 3: going to talk about people who go up and shoot
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  Speaker 3: up nine Canadians because they're not just trapped but in cells.
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  Speaker 3: Let's not let's let's uh, let's let's avoid that particular
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  Speaker 3: subject for now.
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  Speaker 1: Call the thought police. Uh No. The sad thing is
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  Speaker 1: they don't want to talk about that. This lady, this
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  Speaker 1: Emily called Crawford or Lawford. Sorry, she didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that. The creator of the documentary doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: to talk about that, because that does not make women
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  Speaker 1: the victims of the feelings of men. We hear all
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  Speaker 1: the time from feminists that the male suicide epidemic, which
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  Speaker 1: is a thing, even if they say that it's not,
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  Speaker 1: is caused by quote toxic masculinity. Uh, and that men
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  Speaker 1: don't talk about their feelings, right, what happens when men
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  Speaker 1: talk about their feelings? You get this documentary and this
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  Speaker 1: article and many others like, uh, they like them where they.
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  Speaker 2: Start out mhm.
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  Speaker 1: Or your mom tells you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah basically yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Or your wife leaves you because you said it hurts
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  Speaker 1: when when she treats you like shit, right, Or because
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  Speaker 1: you said you have anxiety, like only women are allowed
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  Speaker 1: to have anxiety, right, Or because you said you're depressed.
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  Speaker 1: People get mad about that, So there we go. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the in cell trap, because of course, guys get recruited
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  Speaker 1: to be involuntary uh at something. They go out and
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  Speaker 1: find other guys and ask them to involuntarily start doing
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  Speaker 1: the thing that is so common that we hear about
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  Speaker 1: it all the time, involuntary recruiting. And of course, well
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  Speaker 1: you can't, it's not possible. You can't talk people into
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  Speaker 1: involuntarily doing something. The minute that they volunteer, it's no
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  Speaker 1: longer involuntary. That that seems to be pretty straightforward. Do
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  Speaker 1: these people not know what involuntary means? Do they think
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  Speaker 1: that guys just choose to involuntarily do things. Maybe maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's one of those people that confuses bolimia and the
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  Speaker 1: flu or something like that. Yeah, press ganging setto that be, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that would be how most countries recruited for military service
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  Speaker 1: before a certain era of freedom and prosperity. You basically
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  Speaker 1: just got press gang. They'd come and get you and
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  Speaker 1: and you were in the military, especially the navy, because
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  Speaker 1: it's very hard to go a wall if you're out
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  Speaker 1: on the ocean. You can't just when you're when you're
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  Speaker 1: miles away from the shore. You can't just jump ship
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  Speaker 1: and survive. You jump ship. You didn't go a wall,
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  Speaker 1: you committed suicide. So you know, maybe armies were were
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  Speaker 1: less able to do this, right, Maybe especially the front
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  Speaker 1: liners were less able to do this, although not too
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  Speaker 1: much because they have weapons. But when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: naval fleets, when humans started creating boats and using them
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  Speaker 1: to attack each other, they started press ganging men into
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  Speaker 1: serving as soldiers on those boats. Whether they were small
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  Speaker 1: or large, fat or thin, long or short. That was
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  Speaker 1: just a fact of life for men. But you can't
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  Speaker 1: get press ganged into being an inceel either, only ignored
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  Speaker 1: into being an inceel. Only abandoned into being an in
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  Speaker 1: cell right, only look down on into being an incel,
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  Speaker 1: only mistreated into being an inceel, abused into being an inceel.
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  Speaker 1: You really can't get a big group of people grabbing
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  Speaker 1: you and forcing you into the in cell club. It's
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  Speaker 1: in fact the polar opposite.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's literally called involuntary. Yeah, I mean you
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  Speaker 3: get much more, much more direct than that. It's you
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  Speaker 3: can't actually be held accountable for what is literally involuntary.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what people mean by insult. That's what the
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  Speaker 3: INN is short for an insul. It means involuntary. But
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  Speaker 3: people will these vast swathes of especially feminists and now
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  Speaker 3: the general normy sphere, who will call you some kind
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  Speaker 3: of terrorists for something that is quite literally involuntary, and
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  Speaker 3: and they think that's fine. And meanwhile they're excusing criminals
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  Speaker 3: for their criminal behavior and they're like, no, it's not
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  Speaker 3: their fault that they're criminals. They've been driven into this
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  Speaker 3: by I don't know, in cells this it must be
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  Speaker 3: the fault of people who are involuntarily marginalized. That that
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  Speaker 3: people who have been voluntarily marginalized by being criminals, that's
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  Speaker 3: the only reason they're having problems, and it's it's all
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  Speaker 3: a bit skew with isn't it. It's all a bit
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  Speaker 3: fucking upside down that the worst people we can think
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  Speaker 3: of are people who are in their situation involuntarily. Like,
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  Speaker 3: how does anyone justify this? I mean, we know, because
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  Speaker 3: they just fucking hate men. And that's all it's to it.
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  Speaker 3: It's easier to hate men because of the things they
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  Speaker 3: do involuntarily than it is to hate them for things
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  Speaker 3: they do voluntarily. I mean, there's nothing women hate more
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  Speaker 3: than a man with no power. And again that's that's
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  Speaker 3: that's what involuntary means. It's it's a man with no power.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, the the more power they drain away from men,
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  Speaker 3: the more they hate men for not having that power.
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  Speaker 3: And it's yeah, it's it's it's a downward spiral, like
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  Speaker 3: the more we fuck you over, the more that we
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  Speaker 3: will fuck you over, and and we will keep doing
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  Speaker 3: this relentlessly because we're so full of love, because we're
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  Speaker 3: so full of empathy. I can't even odd.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. You know that that catchphrase that
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  Speaker 1: she put at the top, that catch line, angry and
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  Speaker 1: lonely young young men can easily enter a web of
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  Speaker 1: hatred against women online. Is there a way out?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be hateful toward them and and then they
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  Speaker 1: won't be lonely and they won't be angry about it.
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  Speaker 1: But you think about this, Let's start from the perspective
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  Speaker 1: of this, this statement on hatred. Some men hate women,
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  Speaker 1: and some go online to talk about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the hashtag kill all men, which feminists like to tell
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  Speaker 1: us is a joke, is a statement that feminists and
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  Speaker 1: guynocentric women make because they are mad at men for
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  Speaker 1: the crime of not being identical to women. That is
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  Speaker 1: basically the underlying logic behind hashtag kill all men. Feminism
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  Speaker 1: contains a whole spectrum of language that is made specifically
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  Speaker 1: to delegitimize men's existence, men's feelings, men's thoughts and opinions,
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  Speaker 1: men's observations right, men's boundaries, men taking up any out
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  Speaker 1: of space at all in the world, men's successes like
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  Speaker 1: you have that they have a word for every thing
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  Speaker 1: about existence that can happen to men or that men
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  Speaker 1: can do that delegitimizes it or makes it into an
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  Speaker 1: attack on women. Right, everything that exists about masculinity, Feminist
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  Speaker 1: hate and women have a consistent habit of just treating
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  Speaker 1: men's interests and men's men's characteristics that make them successful. Accountability, courage,
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  Speaker 1: the level of stoicism it takes to bypass your your
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  Speaker 1: sensibilities in order to achieve a goal that's important to you. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: yes my knee hurts, but I'm going to finish this race.
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  Speaker 1: Or yes, my knee hurts, but I'm gonna finish building
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  Speaker 1: this road. I'm going to finish fixing this toilet. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to finish making sure that this power line is
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  Speaker 1: properly attached so that electricity will get to people's homes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to finish breaking up this fat berg. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to put this light bulb in this twelve hundred
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  Speaker 1: foot tower so that planes don't hit it and people
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  Speaker 1: can still have their radio signals. Men overcome things that
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  Speaker 1: women just don't bother to deal with. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: clean up all of this blood at this crime scene.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take pictures of this mutilated body at
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  Speaker 1: this crime scene so that there's evidence that can convict
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  Speaker 1: the killer or help to convict the killer. You don't
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of women going into gastro entyrology. It's
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  Speaker 1: a shitty job. But then they complain that pediatricians don't
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  Speaker 1: make as much money as the guy whose job involves
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  Speaker 1: investigating the part of your body that shit comes from,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the part of your body that vomit comes from.
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  Speaker 1: It's very clear that if this guy makes a mistake
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  Speaker 1: while he's shoving a camera up your ass, he can
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  Speaker 1: kill you by perforating the part of your body that
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  Speaker 1: can spill shit into your abdomen and cause paratonitis. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe putting a baby on a scale should
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  Speaker 1: get paid the same amount of money because reasons. Right,
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  Speaker 1: women get mad when men receive merit pay for doing
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  Speaker 1: things that have more merit than the job the woman
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  Speaker 1: is doing, or that have more adverse conditions applied to
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  Speaker 1: the job that make it reasonable to pay somebody more
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  Speaker 1: in order to make it persuasive. Please come do this job. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather do this other job. It's easier and it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have as many difficulties. Well, we'll pay you more money. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do this job. How dare you make more money? Right?
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  Speaker 1: But men hate women, that's the claim at the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the article. The big question that I have is
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  Speaker 1: what is that hatred? What is this woman defining his hatred?
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  Speaker 2: Is it.
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  Speaker 1: A desire to prevent women from existing? Is it a
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  Speaker 1: hashtag kill all women? Is it a treatment of women
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  Speaker 1: as as not permissible. You can't come in here because
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  Speaker 1: you're a woman. You're dangerous to the people around you.
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  Speaker 1: You're scary because you're a woman. You're automatically presumed creepy
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  Speaker 1: and guilty of something because you're a woman. Nobody does that.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody says I'm afraid of getting raped because there's a
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  Speaker 1: woman in here, even though women are just as likely
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  Speaker 1: to perpetrate as men, possibly more, because they feel entitled
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  Speaker 1: and they don't think that their sexuality can be an imposition,
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  Speaker 1: even if the other person says no, even though women
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  Speaker 1: can be just as violent as men, women can use weapons,
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  Speaker 1: women can use guns, and even like that chick that
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  Speaker 1: used a machete to try to well, she did rape
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend. We hear nobody ever say I'm afraid of
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  Speaker 1: getting beaten up, killed, robbed, conned out of everything because
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  Speaker 1: there's a woman in this room with us. They don't
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  Speaker 1: do that. They don't do that because they don't recognize
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  Speaker 1: that women can be just as dangerous, and they don't
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  Speaker 1: generalize the women who are just as dangerous to the
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  Speaker 1: rest of us who don't want jack or shit to
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  Speaker 1: do with violence, well to.
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  Speaker 3: Play devil's advocate. There has recently been people have looked
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  Speaker 3: into this idea that women should not be prison officers
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  Speaker 3: in men's presence, and that is a very good point,
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  Speaker 3: largely because those women very often tend to be predatory,
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  Speaker 3: and those of us in Honey Badger Radio talk about
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  Speaker 3: in terms of how they are predatory. But a lot
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  Speaker 3: of other folks are say this it because those women
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  Speaker 3: are putting themselves in danger, and yes they are, even
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  Speaker 3: though largely they're they're not because even convicts, even even
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  Speaker 3: male convicts, are generally quitecentricycentric, and dare I say empathetic.
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  Speaker 3: I know we like to say women are the empathetic sex,
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  Speaker 3: but when even convicted convicts, even violent convicted convicts. Tautology,
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  Speaker 3: but even even male convicts are quite happy to be
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  Speaker 3: statutorily raped by women without exactly they're violent tendencies on
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  Speaker 3: them because they know what's going to happen if they
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  Speaker 3: do that, they're going to put into into solitary confinement
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. And because prison officers have all the power
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  Speaker 3: even if they're women. Nay, especially if they're women. But
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  Speaker 3: that's none of this is the same as this idea
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  Speaker 3: that women that men should never be in charge of children.
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  Speaker 3: And this is another thing I've seen working the rounds
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  Speaker 3: on Twitter, because recently there was there was a male
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  Speaker 3: guy who some kind of nursery operative who committed some
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  Speaker 3: kind of atrocity, and and since then, this this idea
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  Speaker 3: that men should never be in charge of children in
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  Speaker 3: a professional capacity, has reared its ugly head, like why
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  Speaker 3: would any man want to be in charge of children
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  Speaker 3: unless it's so he can rape them? And I can
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  Speaker 3: see where you're coming from, because we live in an
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  Speaker 3: age where where so many people have have had their
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  Speaker 3: priorities and their sense of morality skewed in all sorts
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  Speaker 3: of directions. But for most of history, the professionals in
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  Speaker 3: charge of children have been male and female. And and
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  Speaker 3: we didn't have these kinds of proper well, we did
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  Speaker 3: have we did have these kinds of problems, but they
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  Speaker 3: were generally vetted to make sure that we didn't admit
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  Speaker 3: too many nonsens into the into the charge of children
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  Speaker 3: of children.
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  Speaker 1: But this, well, you also had the threat of consequences.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if the adult got outed for behaving that way.
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  Speaker 1: The adult didn't just get moved on to another school.
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  Speaker 1: And in particular, if the adult was male, then the
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  Speaker 1: adult basically got lynched or beaten to death by the
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  Speaker 1: men of the community. Because most men are very protective
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  Speaker 1: of children, very protective. You get a whole room full
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  Speaker 1: of men together, and you tell that room full of
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  Speaker 1: men that outside of the room there is a child molester,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be ready to leave the room and
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  Speaker 1: kill that child molester. They're going to assume that child molester. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to assume that's another guy. And if they
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  Speaker 1: walk out and it's a woman, half the time they
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  Speaker 1: don't know what to do, but they will still want
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  Speaker 1: to apply consequences.
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  Speaker 3: And this makes it very difficult for a man to
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  Speaker 3: enter into childcare, even if I mean especially if he's
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  Speaker 3: not a nonce, because he's he can be subjected to
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  Speaker 3: false accusations, and in the event that he's subjected to
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  Speaker 3: these false accusations, his life will be on the line.
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  Speaker 3: In the old days because he could get lynched and
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  Speaker 3: in the current days because he could get the modern
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  Speaker 3: equivalent of being lynched. Both in the court of public
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  Speaker 3: opinion and in the literal costs, And to be honest, that,
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  Speaker 3: if anything, is the reason men shouldn't go into childcare,
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  Speaker 3: not because they're likely to rape children, but because they
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  Speaker 3: are far, far more likely to be falsely accused of
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  Speaker 3: raping children. And that is what I will tell men. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you probably shouldn't go into two childcare, not because I
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  Speaker 3: think you're a nonce, but because I think you're very
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  Speaker 3: likely to be accused of being an because we live
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  Speaker 3: in an extremely misanderic age. But compare that with the
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  Speaker 3: the female prison officers thing. People are saying women shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be female prison officers, not because they're predators, but because
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  Speaker 3: they're likely to be putting themselves in danger. And people
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  Speaker 3: are saying men shouldn't be in charge of children, not
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  Speaker 3: not because they're putting themselves in danger, but because they're
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  Speaker 3: putting other people in danger. And that's that's the way
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: it is across the board. Like the only reason men
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: are being marginalized and expelled from these sectors of employment
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: and from these entire sectors of community, from these entire
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: sexes of civilization is because they are assumed to be predators.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And the only reason, or at least The primary reason
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: anyone even considers marginalizing or rejecting women from any sectors
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: is because they are endangering themselves. And I put it
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: to you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: And certain is where they're predatory.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people, people are just miss missing out these the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: idea that women can be predators and that men can
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: be predated upon.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: As as imagined. You can't sit in a park and
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: read a book about people stamin at you.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In the US, there have been men who have
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: taken their own children to a park to play and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: been assaulted by other people in the park for trying
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to kidnap their own children or for being being predators
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: without any evidence, literally no evidence. Just they were there
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and there were children there, and a man who was
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: there must be there for nefarious reasons because men have
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: been so deep.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: No, Mike, do you remember the early two fashions pedophile hysteria?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I mean the feedophile hysteria has been around since oh
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: you mean brass I.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was this classic.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: British and the monkey and monkey Dust as well.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I remember monkey Dust, the pedo finder general.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's this was all satire, but people were
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: wising up to this, to this notion of of I say,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: men being falsely accused of peterphilia, but it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Was called people being falsely accused of peterophilia. But yeah,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: people got onto this ship like thirty years ago that
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the media, especially back then with because you know, you
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: know how the news media works, they always try to
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: to to sell moral panics to the public in order
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: to get eyes on them. And yes, this did include
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: like very much over hyping the moral panic of specifically
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: male pedo files. And it's difficult to talk about this
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: without being called a pedo apologist or a pedo defender
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: or something. But yes, there are both sides to everything. Yes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: there are a bunch of fucking nonss around these days,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: and they're always happening. I mean the something something Epstein files. Yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: but that's that that that's in the upper echelons of
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: these things. And indeed in schools there are more, There
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: are more fucking nonss than ever because because we've given
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: we've given them this top hall in of the LGBTQ
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: thing to hide underneath while they groom children into into
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: whatever sexual deviance that they feel like grooming them into.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: And so yes, it has become a far bigger problem
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: now than it was back in the nineties and and
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and the two thousands. But at the same time, there
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: is the other end of the coin where some people
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: can be falsely accused of being a nonce that's never
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: gone away. That's that's still there.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: There are personally father that was on vacation with his
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: daughter who was accused by the owner of a hotel
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: where he registered for them to stay. They that you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: could tell when I saw the news story. You look
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: at the image of the father and the daughter in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the news story, it is blatantly obvious that that child
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: is his child. She looks like him, But the hotel
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: owner assumed that because he was male, the child must
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: not be his and he must be a pedophile, even
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: though if that child had been traveling with a woman,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and she could have been traveling with a woman that
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: looked nothing like her, the same individual would assume that
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the child was safe without any evidence, without any other
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: evidence besides the fact of the sex of the adult
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: that was traveling with the child. And of course the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: child was put into a terrifying situation if I remember right,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: they were either in a foreign country or very far
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: away from home. So this child is confiscated from her
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: father by strangers who then subjected her to an entereation
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: under the assumption that she was protecting this pedophile because
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: she had been brainwashed, you know, groomed into protecting this individual.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And they also subjected the father to an interrogation and
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: being able to show like you can't. You don't usually
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: take your child's birth certificate with you when you're traveling
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: because if it's stolen, that's a stolen ID. You don't
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: usually take your kid's Social Security card or anything like
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that because your child is with you, and you're not
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: usually asked to prove that your child is your child.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But if I remember, like I said, I think they
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: were in a foreign country and passports were what established
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: that yes, actually this was his child, and that is
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: how they ended up remedying the situation, but not until
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: after both the father and the child were terrorized, traumatized.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: They'll never forget what happened to them, and she's never
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: going to forget the fact that her father was accused
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: of being a pedophile just for being a man, despite
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the family resemblance. And this is the difference between how
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: men and women are treated in society. So when we
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: talk about Hey, I want you to all remember the
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: society that we live in is guinocentric. That is, there
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: is a dominant focus in our society on the interests
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and welfare of women and girls over that of the
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: interests and welfare of men and boys. And there is
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a tendency to fail at holding women and girls accountable
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: for their behavior or even presume them capable of being
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the situation. Being incorrect about
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: something or being malicious, doesn't matter whether it's from you know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the mistake end of the spectrum or the malicious, the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: malice end of the spectrum. At all ends of the spectrum,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: women and girls get a larger quantity and quality, better
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: quality of benefit of the doubt than men and boys.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: So at both sides, catering to their interests and not
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: catering to other people's interests when they come into conflict
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: with their interests, women, women are given the better end
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: of the stick, right, whether you would say the long
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: end of the stick or whatever. Meanwhile, they've taken huh
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: or they take it well, and they take it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: That they they've taken over meanst they've.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Taken over men. Showed in the UK see this is
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: another one. Right, We keep hearing about the epidemic of
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: male suicide, which is it's a valid complaint. There are
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: significantly more men committing suicide than there are women committing suicide,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and there are sign if significantly more people committing suicide,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: then should even we should even have to worry might
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: be attempting. Nobody should be in that situation. Like I recognize,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: there are sometimes when it happens because of chemical imbalance,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a natural chemical imbalance, But there is so much suicide
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: as a result of pain and suffering, most of which
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: is happening to men, that it is fair to call
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it an epidemic. It is absolutely fair to call it
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: an epidemic. And we hear about it all the time
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: from feminists that, oh, this is because men don't make friends,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: they don't communicate, they don't talk about their feelings, they
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: don't go to therapy. And then as soon as men
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: create something like men sheds that provide a therapeutic environment
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: where men can work on their problems together in a
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: manner that they are comfortable with, that is a safe
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: space for them. Basically, women have to invade it and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: take it over and feminize it. So when women complain
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that men aren't dealing with their problems, that they aren't
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: talking about their feelings, that they aren't going to therapy,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that they aren't communicating, they need to remember that when
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: men do that with each other without female interference, women
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: flock to interfere, women demand entry, and then women demand
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that things be altered to suit their sensibilities. Then they
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: want to committing suicide.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That's why I always say women in light the mafia, and.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: The mafia at least is uh somewhat purpose driven.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: But women then they're not we women as peppe is driven.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: They want to take over the space.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but not community purpose, like the mafia actually used
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: to have some degree of community responsibility. It's a It
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't excuse the murder, it doesn't excuse the theft, it
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: doesn't excuse the shakedowns. But the fact is that they
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: they kept other gangs out, they didn't tolerate competition, and
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: they also if you look into the history of how
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: they operated when their community needed something and it wasn't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: being taken care of by the city by the government,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: guess who stepped in just as much in some ways
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: as the church did. You know, Like I said, It
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't make up for all the crime, It doesn't make
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: up for the violence. But that is part of what
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the mafia used to do. And I don't know if
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: they still do that or not, but I do know this,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: whether they still do or not. Women never did they
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: never they would take over like the mafia. They would
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: gatekeep communities like the mafia, but for their own benefit,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: not for the benefit of the community.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Measures have been put in place to try and combat
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the mafia. I guess the government has been put in
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: charge of that. It doesn't do a very good job
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: because in each other's pockets they can grease each other's
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: palms all the time. But you know that men have
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: transgressed over history, and bigger organizations and collectives have been
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: put in place, and bigger ones on top of that
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: to try and curtail the kind of things that men
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: do in the mafia. Not that there aren't any women
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: involved in the mafia, there absolutely also are. But then
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: there's the things that women do individually, relationally, aggressively on
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: their own small scale, and I'm talking about female pedophiles.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Nothing has been put in place to stop that. For
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: all of history, women have been in charge of children,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: they don't do it. They don't do it in mafias.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: They do it in the on the smallest possible scale. Yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: sometimes they talk about amongst themselves, but women don't tend
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: to talk honestly amongst themselves. They tend to just say, oh, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: you're great, you're a ten, you're all tense. We're all great,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: aren't we. Meanwhile in the back rooms, women are. Women
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: have been committing horrific acts of pedophilia for pretty much
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: all of history, and I know no measurements have been
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: put in place to protect this from happening. The government
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: doesn't do it. The government only works on bigger and
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: bigger scales to try and prevent smaller collectives like the
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: mafia from doing things ostensibly. I mean, they just go
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: from one collective to a bigger collective to another bigger collective,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: and they never look at what women are doing individually.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: And despite women being so collective in their political trappings,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: the crimes they commit against especially children, have always been
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: right down to the individual, individualistic level. With female pedophiles
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: don't need an Epstein Ireland. They've never needed an Epstein island.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: They have their families to themselves, and no one's going
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: to curtail what they do. Now, some of you may
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: be thinking, oh, we just how dare you assume that
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: women are pedophiles just because of Well that's what you
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: do with men, folks, not as feminists, but even the
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: fake fucking trad cons You just assume that if men
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: are in charge of childre and that means they're going
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: to be raping children. Well, guess who is in charge
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: of children? Ninety five percent at the time, at a
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: lower bound, women are the ones in charge of children,
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: and if they want to nounce those children, they can,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: and they will and they do because there's never been
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: a mechanism put in place to stop them from doing that,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: largely because society has decided on the whole that nonsery
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: cannot be committed by anyone who doesn't have a penis.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: But there's all kinds of nonsery. It doesn't even have
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: to involve a penetrative weapon. It can involve grouping or
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: not even a physical thing. It can mean a psychological mechanism.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Rooming never even has to involve raping. At the end
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: of the day, very often it does whatever you can
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: call what women do that can be called raping. But
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: women abuse children in ways not just physical. They abuse
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: their sons into committing crimes on their behalf, all kinds
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: of crimes. They especially single mothers who don't have a
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: husband to do their crimes for them. All they have
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: to do is extract a man's seed. And then the
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: time they'll have a son to do their crimes on
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: their behalf, and they don't even have to rape them
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: into doing it. They can just abuse them into doing it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: And then their sons go on to do the rape
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: convenient and they don't even stop them when they do that.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: And that's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, men can do raping,
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: but women can raise men who do raping and they
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: do nothing to stop it. Women can raise men who
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: do all of the crimes.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about female guards in the prison system.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I want to mention something because I wrote about this
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: a while back. When I looked into the statistics that
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the Bureau, the Justice Bureaus Investigation Wing basically looked into
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: self investigation wing. You'd think, you know, we have investigated
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: ourselves and we found no wrongdoing, would be the thing
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: that you always get from government, right, But what they
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: actually found at juvenile detention facilities was that that uh.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: In the facilities for male juveniles, the majority of sexual
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: misconduct was committed by staff, not other juveniles. The majority
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: of the imposition where you know, the individual was in
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: in some way or another averse or had to be
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: groomed into it, because remember these are children, and and
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: was not uh engaging in misconduct towards someone else and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: then trying to blame the other person. The majority of
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the conduct that that was uh there where somebody was
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a victim, that was that was done by the adult
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: staff in the facility, not by the other children. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much predictable. Kids don't necessarily have that
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: on their mind. They shouldn't have that on their mind
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: unless you know an adult has introduced it to them,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and then that is an adverse circumstance for them. They
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: have been victimized if that has happened to them. The
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: worst part of it was less than half of the
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: staff the adult staff was female, but female perpetrators were
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: responsible for ninety five percent, approximately up to ninety eight
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: percent if you count situations where the perpetrators were both
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: sexes of staff. Sexual misconduct in the juvenile facilities for
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: boys in the juvenile facilities for girls, it was mostly
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: other inmates, not staff, so both directions. The majority of
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: victims of sexual misconduct, imposition, exploitation, et cetera. The majority
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: of victims reported female perpetrators. And that should tell you
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: a lot. Those kids that come out and engage in
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: in recidivism behaviors, they went in as gang members, and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: they come out as hardened gang members who are more
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: likely to commit violent crimes, more likely to steal, more
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: likely to sell drugs, and so on. The distinct possibility
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: is that instead of getting the mentoring in therapies that
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: they needed to correct the path that they were on,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: they got raped by some dumb bitch and the trauma
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: made it more difficult for them to reform. Women turned
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: reform school into rape clubs. And the first thing that
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: feminists did when that information came out was call it consensual. Literally,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: the first feminist we talked to made the argument that
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: these boys wanted this to happen, that they were willing participants,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: these underage kids that were raped by adults as old
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: as middle age and older, that they wanted it because
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: boys want sex. That was her logic. Some Canadian professor,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: she was an idiot, and then she threatened us for
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: publishing what she said and mocking her for it, so
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: we mocked her for threatening us as well. I think
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: that that video is still in my channel, my ancient
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: channel that I haven't done anything with in years because
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I'm busy doing this. But yeah, we hear about women
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: hating men, but our society condones things that men get
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: condemned for when women do them. Our society turns a
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: blind eye, or it excuses or it rationalizes, Well, it's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: not as harmful when women do it. Oh, it's not
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: as intentional when women do it. Oh, she's the victim
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: because he was the aggressor. Right, But you would never
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: say that if the sexes were reversed and a teenage
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: girl was the aggressor, you would say yes, But that
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: man is the adult and he should know better. He
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: should know that this girl needs help, not exploitation. Right,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: So should a woman know about a boy that he
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: needs help not exploitation. That something is wrong if a
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: child is a sexual aggressor, if a teenager is a
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: sexual aggressor toward an adult, that something is missing from
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: the equation that that teenager needs for their protection. They
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: haven't been mentored properly, or they've been allowed to get
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: into things that they shouldn't get into, or somebody has
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: done something to them that they shouldn't be doing right.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter whether that's a boy or a girl.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: That is universal. If somebody is underage and they're seeking
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: out sexual attention from an adult, it is the adult's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: responsibility to protect that child from that child's misconception about
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: relationships and sex and that child's interest in an activity
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: that is dangerous for them, regardless of the sex of
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the adult, and regardless of the sex of the child,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: and regardless of how long the adult has been an adult.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: But we don't think about it that way in society,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: do we. We look at a man that takes his
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: child to the park to play with other kids, Well,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: the guy sits and relaxes on the bench, just like
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: a mom might do, and say something's wrong. That guy
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: must be a pedo. But when my gym teacher raped
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: one of the boys at my school, she was just
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: moved on to another school. They didn't consider it that
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: big of a deal because, oh, the relationship was consensual. Bullshit,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: it was con sensual. That's an underage kid it is
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: statutory rape. When my track coach did that with a
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: student who was over the legal age of consent but
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: still a student, a female student, he went to jail
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: for two years. But when my gym teacher did it
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to a boy who is under the age of consent,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: she moved on to another school, same community, same administration,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: same school building, different results because of gender. So in
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the article she says, some men one it's.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Because it's been an hour and we haven't even scrolled
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: down there.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when you hear some men hate women and
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: go online to talk about it, I want you to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: remember that that women will go online and make excuses
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: for women hurting boys, but some men complain because women
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: are mean or dishonest or have toxic standards. On Reddit,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: there are whole groups. Well there aren't anymore. I think
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: they got rid of those subreddits they oh, well, they
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: didn't get rid of men's rights. On Reddit, there are
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a whole group subreddits which appear to be dedicated to
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: blaming women for everything.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: Translation, blaming women for some things some of the time.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Now giving women a pass. Sometimes they'll say you're blaming
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: women when you're simply saying this woman who did a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: bad thing. It's not somebody else's fault. Being a woman
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it somebody else's fault. One group called Our
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Men's Rights has three hundred and sixty three thousand, eight
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: hundred members. So i'll tell you right now, full disclosure.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: I've been a member of that subreddit. I haven't been
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: on it for a long time. But because I haven't
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: been on Reddit, reddit's the hoa of the Internet. But
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: I haven't been on Reddit in years because of that
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: very much. But I was on I was part of
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: that website, part of that subreddit before the front page
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: became a thing. I was part of that subreddit when
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: Reddit was its own separate subreddit, and then you had
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: the other subreddits when there were less than three thousand
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: members in that subreddit. So there's now what I'm not
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: even gonna divide. But I don't know one hundred and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: twenty times as many members in that subreddit now, and
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful, or actually one hundred and twenty Yeah, that's right,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty. But I'm grateful to see that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: it expanded that much and it got that big before
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: before I quit posting very much there. It's never been
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a group dedicated to blaming women. It's been a group
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: talking about problems that men face because of accommodations that
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: only benefit women, or because our society has deemed it
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: acceptable to infringe upon civil rights of men for women's benefit.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: It's not blaming, Like the lady that lives next door
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: to me is not being blamed for this. If you're
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a woman in the audience and you didn't lobby for
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: changes in law and policy to make this stuff happen,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: end up being blamed for this if you take this personally.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: It's a way of avoiding the fact that the situation
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: being described is discriminatory and wrong and needs to be changed.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But it's a lot easier for feminists to say, oh,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: you're blaming women than it is to argue why they
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: think that we should maintain a system that is discriminatory
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: and wrong. So you're blaming women, That's what they'll say.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Right who post about why women have it easy, why
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: women can't be trusted, why women ruin men's lives. They
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: won't tell you about the actual posts. They won't show
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: you any posts from this this subreddit or any other subreddit.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: What they'll do is they'll tell you what some somebody
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: that was selected by the documentarian or other individual said
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: to them, right, as some joke somebody.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: Told based by the way, where's the light given? The
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: women doesn't mean all women. It means some women. Yes,
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: some women can't be trusted, Some women ruin men's lives.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: Some women have it easy. Where's the light ay?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Good point. There's also the fact that feminists do this
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: when it comes to men. Men are pigs. Men do
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: bad things to women, right, Men kill women, women are
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: afraid men will kill them, men are afraid women will
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: laugh at them, and all all of those stages. We
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: choose the bear because being around a man is more
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: dangerous no matter who he is. And we have no
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: way of telling the difference between the hero and the
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: villain in the story because the guy's behavior doesn't give
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you a clue a guy's character. You can't vet him
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: for character because you're too stupid. But you know, women,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: aren't they.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: It used the film anyway? Mm hm.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: They accuse the villain and the hero, and they choose
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: the villain. You're right. They expect the hero to rescue
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: them when the villain gets too hot for them to handle,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: and what ends up happening when they go someplace with
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the villain where the hero doesn't know where they are,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what's going on there, and can't do anything
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: about it until they complain later on and the villain
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: does something to them that they're not happy about. They
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: blame the hero for not protecting them. That's how women
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: behave because they have been allowed to become chilled r
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: over the centuries. This lady's mad at reddits are men's
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: rights subreddit. She should have seen the discussions back in
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: the day in the red pill subreddit. They were a
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: lot more harsh. I used to I used to read.
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't comment in there, but I used to read.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: And there was a post that really made a difference
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: in how I look at men's issues in that I
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: was better able to understand a lot of how women
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: argue men's issues against men's rights activists. There was an
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: account called Whisper who pointed out that as women are
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: getting older from from you know, childhood, at about the
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: age of fourteen, they stopped maturing, or rather they never
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: hit a level of maturity that is beyond what a
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: boy is expected to hit at the age of fourteen.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Prior to when you are starting to date prior to
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: when you are expected to be the breadwinner for whatever
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: relationship you're going to be in with the opposite sex
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: as a guy, prior to when you have any real
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: legal responsibility for much of your actions. Although in the
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: juvenile detention system in the US there are boys there
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: that are elementary school age, just a reminder, we're talking
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: nine ten year old kids that are in there getting
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: getting raped by female prison guards and then being being told, well,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: it was consensual by feminists, But yeah, he was. He
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: was pretty pretty well correct. The level of responsibility women
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: are expected to take in their lives, uh, the level
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: of obligation women face in their lives, the level of
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: restriction on self indulgence and uh boundary crossing, things like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: that putting yourself before the people around you. That women
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: never developed past where men would man would be at
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: the age of fourteen, where a guy would be at
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the age of fourteen. Uh, they're they're never expected to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: be more accountable for themselves than a guy would be
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: at the age of fourteen.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, when they start getting real attention, that's when they
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: start worrying. When they start getting attention, then they quite
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of women skip in uh maturity and
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: then when they get to middle aged they started developing
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: it because they don't have a choice. But there's a
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: lot of women out there that are my age that
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: argue that men are responsible for abortion because they haven't
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: passed enough laws to stop women from having abortions, and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: then they'll get mad if I point out that when
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: abortion was illegal in the United States. The last year
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: before abortion was legalized in the United States, there was
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: an organization that today brags that they did sixty thousand
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: abortions just in Chicago when it was illegal when men
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: passed laws. Allegedly men passed laws. I think abortion laws
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: were not gender specific in who supported them, but when
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: they're laws to stop women from having abortions, women still
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: had abortions if they wanted to, So what else are
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: men supposed to do? So I pointed out the only
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: way for men to control this, based on the history
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: of women flouting the law when the law said a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: woman can't have an abortion, is for men to chaperone
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: women everywhere they go during everything they do, and prevent
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: women from engaging in sex unless they want to have
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: a baby, and prevent women from going into a clinic.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: That's what they used to do in the UK. They
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: used to chaperone women all around. But the women got
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: what do you call it mad at that, and they
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: protested a lot because they call misogyny. Yeah, and because
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: of the abortion thing in Chicago. The thing is that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: black women wanted the abortionals to be changed as well,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: so they bought the abortion clinics into the black communities
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: in the States because of what Margaret Singer did. What
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: she had to do is go into the black community
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: and because the black women wanted to Margaret sing it there,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: she was advocating for the black women to have abortion
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: clinics in the black community.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of wonder if those abortion clinics had
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: never existed. It is a fact that per capita, black
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: women have five times as many abortions as white women.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: And you know, the black population has been a minority
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: population in terms of vote power in the US throughout
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: its history here being able to vote, the whole population's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: history here being able to vote, which isn't a very
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: long history, but it is still.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: A history stopped. She also stopped black people with black
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: menfol getting the earlier on as well.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And she Also, I would I would call her largely
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: responsible for the fact that the black population does not
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: have more power as a voting block than they do
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: because the number of black babies that were never born
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: before they were killed is high enough that it would
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: have made a difference in in the population dynamics in
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the country in terms of if you actually acted as
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: a voting block. Uh, you know, based on on your
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: racial background, and Black people would not have been as
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: powerless or as low power as they as they were.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And this isn't just limited to black as true, as
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: of Hispanic people as well.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: That's what I kind of breast said about the Holocaust,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: about the abortion clinics and stuff.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Yep, maybe even none of this happened, they wouldn't have
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: to replace the the Afro American population with Somalians.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Like black people are great. There are so many things
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: black people are good at. None of these I could
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: attribute to Somalians. Somalians are And I will cut off
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: that sentence before I complete it or I will be arrested.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: But you know what.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: You think he's strucken about that, He's not.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: He's not He's not. Yeah, that's that's that's the thing.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: So when you hear this paragraph and you hear what
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: this woman is mad about, I want you to remember
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: that women, women have made abortion the leading cause of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: death in the world. Being aborted more people die, more
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: human beings, lives are terminated through being aborted than what
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: modern medicine calls the leading cause of death, which is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: cardiopulmonary emergencies, heart attacks, strokes. Even you know, when you
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: throw in things like asthma and stuff like that, where
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: people are dying from suffocation, none of it adds up
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: to as much. If you put all the wars together
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: in documented history during the time that abortion has been legal,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: abortion outnumbers them significantly in terms of how much blood
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: has been shed, death has been dealt. But she says,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: let's see, a few months ago, I messaged a member
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: who calls himself misso cockney. It's like misogyny but with
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: cock in the middle.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Yeah, I didn't say that. Thank you for
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: clarifying that I'm an idiot.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you, And he wrote back, Honestly, I'm described as
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: a pig of a man. I'm fit and well endowed.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I'm a misogynist, as you know. I think he was
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: making fun of her because that's just silly. So she asked,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: why are you a pig of a man, and he says,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I don't believe I'm capable of love. I've been reaching
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: down to treating women like objects my whole life. I've
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: been educated toward mistreating women. Right here, I will say this,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: I think this exchange is fake. I don't believe it
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: ever happened because I've been in that subreddit and that
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: is not the way the men in their talk. That's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: just not yeah. Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: I would have thought most men would say, actually, no,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I'm not a pig. I mean, especially men of certain
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: religious persuasions. I would say, no, I'm not a pig.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: I am religiously abhorrented to such comparisons. But most people,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: even even people of religions who don't abhor pigs, would
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: be like, yeah, no, no, I'm actually not a pig.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: I actually don't appreciate being compared with the pig. I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: consider pigs to be lesser than humans, and I consider
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: it literally dehumanizing to call me a pig. And if
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: only the men of most populations could get around to saying, actually, yeah, no,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: it's not okay that you call me a pig. It's
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: not okay that you say all men are pigs. I
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: think you might be dehumanizing us. There can I can
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: we can we say that? Can we get away with
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: saying that you are dehumanizing us by calling us literally
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: not humans? Uh no, yeah no, maybe.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: You know that would be nice, That would be nice.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: But we live in a guy in acentric world, and
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: so the chances are that it's not gonna happen. Oh,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: and that's the sad thing. But the the other sad
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: thing is if you object to being called a pig
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: or treating like treated like shit, what happens? You get
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: called a misogynist.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: So she asked, you might go ahead, Oh you might
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: get surfaces cough because you're a misogynist.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Wait, you might even get arrested if you object to vehemently,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: especially if you're in the UK.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: I'm saying nothing, and neither is Richard.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: That's right. It's it's insane because that that almost happened
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: to be I almost had a surfaced I red like
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: the cough because of that show. That's that's that's some truth.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: The UK has been defeated, it has been defeated by women.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: So he says he doesn't believe he's capable of love,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and she says, uh, do you want to change? Right?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: This is another one. If a woman said that, the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: first question would be what happened to you? Why not?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: What's what caused you to be this way? Did somebody
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: hurt you? Hurt you? Is there something I can do
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: for you? Have you considered therapy? Anything? But do you
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: want to change?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: If he doesn't think he's capable of loving women, this
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: woman thinks that he owes women. Change from this circumstance
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: that he owes women. He has an obligation to women
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: that he should recover from this inability to love women
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: that he thinks he has.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: But I'm just a pig. How can you expect a
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: pig to love human women?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: Eh?
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: What the law?
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: That sounds like panfic yep.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Then then the rest of the conversation this is more
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: like when I looked at this the first time, I'm like, okay,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: this is fictional. I'd like you to use honorific while
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: talking to me. Honorific And of course you know she
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: says as in sir, why sir with a capital? Because
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I am superior and I want you to acknowledge that
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: have no desire to see a woman as an equal.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: I think we need to start opposing the feminist movement.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: This is this is a stereotypical feminist portrayal of men
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: who are are simply advocating that fathers should should retain
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: custody rights to their children after divorce so that they
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: can mentor them and protect them and ensure that the
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: mother is mentoring and protecting them and not just taking
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: money from from dad and spending it on shoes.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, your mom will take money from you thinking that
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: she or you might will take money from your account
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: thinking that is her money. Well, my mom did that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: one time. Well not one time, but a lot of times.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: You're not the only one. I happen to know multiple
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: people who have talked to me about that happening, especially
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: after a divorce. The the mother, the biological mother, takes
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: money out of the kids trust funds, out of their
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: savings accounts, if they have checking accounts, anything that she
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: has access to do.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I'm suppose that his stories about that that you work
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: with the special needs kids.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Well, I work with special needs adults and a lot
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: of times the guardian doesn't have access to those phones
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: or funds. Because they are put in the in the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: control of the organization that is providing their care. So
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: what my job is like they an individual, the parents
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: are no longer willing or able to provide care for
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: them an adult adulthood, and they put them in their
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: own apartment or as a housemate in a house with
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: three or four other people of similar disabilities, and then
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: there will be two or more people during the day
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: in that home and one or more people during the
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: night in that home that are like me, that are
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: just there to make sure everybody's safe and anything they
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: can't do for themselves, we do anything they need help with.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: We help them with. Anything they need protection from, we
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: protect them from it. Like if some telemarketer calls and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: they don't understand the phone call, it's our job to
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: step in and make sure that they're protected from being scammed.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: Or if somebody comes to the door that doesn't belong there,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: you know, it's our job to make sure that that
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: person is removed from the property by the police we call.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: If there's a snowstorm and the power goes out, you know,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: it's our job to make sure that we get the
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: correct help for those individuals. But once a family has
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: relinquished essentially caregiving responsibility and whatever degree of guardianship that
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: you give over to a caregiver. To my company, they're
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: also relinquishing most of their control, like they don't get
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: into that person's accounts anymore and take money out. They
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: can have a right of approval before any large sum
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: of money is spent, but it's not like they don't
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: have that kind of access to able to just take
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: what they want and use it.
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  Speaker 3: So and can I can I clarify? No, I have
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  Speaker 3: no desire to see women as an equal because physically
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: they are not, nor are they in any sexual species.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: If men and women were equals, they would not be
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: a sexual species in the first place. It's only an
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: a sexual species like fucking bacteria where they are equal,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: because there's no such thing as men and women. The
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: very existence of males and females within the same sexual
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: as opposed to a sexual species that that necessarily means
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: they're not equally. If I was a spider, I would
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: be like as a male spider. No, I did not
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: see myself as equal to a female spider, because the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: female spiders like hundred times the size of me, and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: she's very much in charge of the reproductive process, and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: I'm just and I'm just here to do the inseminating.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: And ladies and gentlemen. Uh, you see how that You
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: see how that relates. You see how that relates.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: She might kill him?
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: And I've ever since I was a child, I like,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, how is it that arthropods like spiders
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: and bees and ants have like a giant female who
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: is in charge of everything and the and the males
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: are just drones? And somehow this evolved not on land
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: but in sea, because you know, we're all evolved from
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: a common ancestor in the sea that was arthropodic and
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: and the thing with the thing with the spine fish
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: and arthropods used used to be that the same species,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: and once upon a time we evolve from that thing.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: And and somehow this evolved into insects where the where
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: where the women are considerably larger than the males. But
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: and it evolved into mammals where the male is considerably
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: larger than the female. In other case, they're not equal.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: But how is it that we devolved into these two
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: different mindsets? If you can even attribute a mind to
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: the likes of spiders and ants and bees. But how
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: is it the mammals have a species where where the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: males are bigger and stronger and they have more reproductive
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: say over things and than women do. But once, once
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: you get into this, you realize they don't. It's actually
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: kind of the same. The fact that mammalian species have
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: larger males doesn't affect this the the power over reproductive situations,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: Like even in mammals with the females, despite being smaller,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: still have the final say over who gets reproductive rights.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: Even though human females are smaller than human males, human
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: males are much like the queen bee. They they have
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: the final say when it comes to reproductive rights. Am I,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm getting getting this across yet,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: but it's it's not to do with physical size. It's
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: it's to do with the hormonal effect that males and
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: females have over each other. And that's not equal, that's
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: never going to be equals. So no, I do not
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: see women as equals women, no matter how small they are.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, even in gorillas where the female is half
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: the size of the male, even in any given mammalian
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: species where the women is fucking a fifth of the
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: size of males, women still have dominion over who gets
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: to inseminate them. It's just like it is with spiders,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: just like it is with anything all the way back
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: fucking millions of years back in evolutionary history. It's women's
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: who get to say who inseminates them. And this has
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: always been the same, no matter how big males get. So, yeah,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: we're not equal, and it's nothing to do with how
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: big we are. It's to do with what with how
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: evolution has set us up. It's to do with them
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: with whatever incentives females are able to give males And
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: yeah that could be Yeah, only the biggest male gets
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: to inseminate me. It's much like it is with spiders,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: even when female spiders are bigger than male spiders. And
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: it's the same with humans even though male spiders, even
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: though male humans are bigger than female humans. Size and
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: strength isn't the point. It's about whatever vector can be used.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: It could be pheromonal, it could be physical, it could
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: be dare I say toxic. Yeah, No, males and females
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 3: are not equal, not in any species. It can develop
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: in all kinds of physical or chemical directions, and it
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: it's helpful that we happen to exist in a species
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: with huge brains that can deprogram themselves into realizing that
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: it kind of doesn't matter who's bigger or who's smaller,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: or who has the hormones floating across the place. We
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: happen to be in a species that has big brains
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: that can, like I say, reverse engineer all this ship
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: and go Okay, now we see what's going on. Maybe
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: we can prevent ourselves from falling into an evolutionary niche
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: where where all we can do is plunge ourselves into
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: the programming of this evolutionary niche, and we don't necessarily
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: have to make males bigger and bigger and women more
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: and more manipulative. Maybe we can be like ah, I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: see the trick now, and and and yeah, we can.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: We can develop this species without falling into the traps
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: that will make us unable to adapt to environmental change.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: And it's especially important when humans are so intelligent that
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: the environmental change is at our own hand. You see
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: how this is all going to grow out of control
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: unless we can get a handle on what humans are
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: doing to our own environment and how we and how
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: we're going to destroy the environment unless we can get
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: hold of what it is that's driving us and what
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: it says that and what it is that's driving us,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: it's the same thing that's driving spiders and flies and
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: and and bees and ants. That we that that we
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: just plug as much as we can into women at
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: the expense of men. And yeah, that's that's that's going
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: to drive us apart and make us extinct. And and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: unless we can figure out how not to do that,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: and that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we are trying
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: to do here on a budge radio. Figure out why
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 3: we're doing that and why we should not do that. Yeah, yes,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: men are stronger than women physically, but women are stronger
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: than men psychologically and perhaps hormonially. And if we forget
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: one of these paths while hyper focusing on the other path,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: then we're going to fall into the same evolutionary black
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: hole that that ninety percent of species whoever existed on
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: this Earth will fall into. But when we fall, it's
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: going to be harder than any other fall. We're going
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: to take the Earth with us if we don't figure
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: this out. In short, when humans do finally bring the
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Earth to the brink of extinction. It won't be because
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: of men. It will be because of well, not even women.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: It will because we weren't able to harness the comprehension
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: of the difference between men and women, and that there
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: even is a difference between men and women. I mean,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: needless to say, if we're just going to go ahead
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: and pretend that there isn't a difference between men and women,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: then of course we're going to destroy the earth, chasing
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: this lunatic notion that there is no difference between males
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: and females. Like our intelligence is our advantage, but at
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: the same time it could be our downfall. No other
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: species on Earth has failed to understand that there is
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 3: a difference between men and women. We're the only species
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: ever that has tried to forget that men and women
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: are not equal. And that's where we are right now.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: We're surrounded by lunatics who are determined to to float
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: this fantasy that men and women are equal when by
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: definition we're not.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: God, you know, the sad thing is, no matter how
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: much we talk about this, no matter how much we
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: point out differences between the sexes, the only time feminists
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: ever want to talk about it is when it benefits
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: women to recognize those differences. If it doesn't benefit women
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: to recognize those differences, doesn't even matter whether it harms
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: women or not. Even if it just doesn't benefit them,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: feminists won't want to talk about it. The same feminists
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: will say, for instance, that it is not as big
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: of a deal, it's not that bad, it's not as
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: much of a problem if a woman engages in violence
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: against a man as it is if a man engages
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: in violence against a woman, because men are bigger and stronger, right,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: they'll say that. They'll say that women are less capable
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: of using violence to cause harm, and that they're less
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: capable of using violence to undermine a person's self interests,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: keep them from enforcing their boundaries, take things from them
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: that they don't want to give up. So on right,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: they'll make that claim that a man can overpower a woman,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: but a woman cannot overpower a man, that when a
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: man engages in violence, it's a beatdown, but when a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: woman does it, it's just a slap, quote unquote, just
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: a slap. Even though women use guns, baseball bats, poisons
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: other people to engage in violence, they use proxy violence,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: and women can be physically strong enough to do significant
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: home arm and men have areas that are particularly vulnerable.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: It only takes a couple of pounds of pressure to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: remove your testicles, and in a particularly violent manner, for instance.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: So it isn't did I remind you of? Do I
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: need to remind you of some of the experiences I've
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: had in my life? I I learned a few things.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: Well, well, you're just a man man zero days.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: Zero days. But the fact is, and it's it's not
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: funny that it only takes a couple of pounds of
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: pressure to break the skin on the scrotum and yank
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: off a pair of testicles. A man is that vulnerable?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: If a woman decides she wants to be violent. There
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: was a woman here in the Dayton metro area several
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: years ago that made the news because she bit her
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: sex partners testicles off because she was angry with him.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fucking violent. That is violent. She
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't accusing him of rape, he wasn't doing anything bad
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: to her. She was mad at him because he was
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: going to leave and she wanted him to stay, and
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: she bit his testicles off. That was it. There was
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: no even a bad excuse she just bit his testicles
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: off to control his ability to leave, to walk out
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: of the apartment. That's it violence. But women will claim
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: that women should get a pass on violence because men
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: are bigger and stronger and more capable than women, more
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: more capable.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: But the minute that you talk about a job where
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: the job duties, the involved tasks are are difficult, dangerous,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: require a significant amount of physical strength, and you say, well, men,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: men do these jobs more than women do. Oh, that's discrimination.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Is because women are discouraged from seeking these jobs. No,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: it's because there's a higher percentage of workers who have
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: the physical strength to do these jobs that happen to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: be male than there are that happen to be female. Right.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Women will argue that it's worse when a man engages
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: in sexual violence against a woman than the reverse because
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: women's sensibilities are more fragile because men want it more
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: and so on. But when you talk about jobs that
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: are involve wear and tear on the sensibilities, jobs that
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: are you know, and involving horrific smells and dirt and
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: grime and nastiness, things that women don't really want to
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: deal with, and you point out, you know, The reason
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: that it takes hazard pay to get these jobs is
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: because it's such a disgusting job to have to do.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: And no, there are more women that don't want to
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: do this job than there are that want to do it.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: And there are more men willing to do the job
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: than there are women who are willing to do the job.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: That's why these men are making more money than you.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: The cashier at the convenience store or the retail outlet
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: that sells gurly clothes and jewelry. That's why he makes
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: more money than you do, even though, yeah, you clean
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: the toilet in the bathroom, but he's breaking up fatbergs
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: in the sewer, or he's cleaning up blood and guts
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: at a crime scene. Again, women will claim that men
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: are more capable of handling that that women are when
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: it comes to women benefiting as crime victims for more
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: compassion in society than men receive. But as soon as
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: there's a job to be done, men suddenly are not
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: more capable because that would mean that they deserve to
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: make more money. Well, they deserve to make more money.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: We're not equal. But in terms of this user kind
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: of look the user up and this this user is
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: so bad that Reddit suspended me for looking at his account.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. It says that suspicious activity I've been
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: on and off. I've never had that message before. There's
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: nothing in my DMS or my account that indicates that
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: anything has occurred that should have resulted in that. So
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that Reddit suspended me for looking at
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: this guy's account, which hasn't had a post in two years.
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: And while occasionally he'll say something in the Men's Right subreddit,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: his main haunt is a bunch of gag subreddits, not
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: not Men's Rights. If you look at the Men's Right subreddit,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: you probably won't see a single one of his posts
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: because that's not one of the prominent users there. That's
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: the guy that they got to talk to them because
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: they couldn't get the prominent users to talk to them,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: which is I know what I expected. This guy is
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: mocking this person for contacting him, and he is a
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: class A top of the line troll, and this is trolling.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I'd like you to use the honorific use honorific while
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: talking to me, as in sir, why sir with a capital,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: because I'm superior and I want you to acknowledge that
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: I have no desire to see a woman as an equal.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I think we need to start opposing the feminist movement. Start,
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and that should be your first clue. We've been opposing
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: the feminist movement, most of us, since before we were
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: men's rights activists. I was an anti feminist in nineteen
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: eighty five. The first time I got hit with the
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: label men's rights activist, I believe was two thousand and nine,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: maybe two thousand and seven, maybe as early as two
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven, definitely not any later than two thousand
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: and nine. I've already started even women are against how
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: far it's gone. I believe women are below men in
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: many ways. May I show you? Then we can proceed
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: the symbol of my superiority. So she sends back to him,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: please don't send me an explicit picture. You know before
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: she said that it's quite possible that she was going
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: to get a picture of him doing the gun show.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: Pose got tickets to the gun shows, showing off his
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: muscles and whatever. But now he has to send her
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: a dick pic because she just told him not to.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: You mean, please show me, And there it is, his
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: penis poking through the flies. Of his of tight gray genes.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: Now we can proceed. So that's her claim about what
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: the men's rights movement is.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: I'll take shit that didn't happen for fifteen thousands, alex.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: I don't even care if it did. Even if it did,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: she found a troll that mostly posts in other subreddits
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: and occasionally drops into the Men's Right subreddit and try
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: to make him representative of the men that are in
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: there every day talking about custody issues and how to
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: deal with false allegations and what due process rights, what
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: respecting due process rights looks like, and equal treatment under
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: the law, things like that, because if she had had
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: a conversation with, say, the guy who exposed the fact
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: that the reason that states are so unfair to men
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: in the court systems when with regard to income and
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: child support is because the federal government pays them dollar
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: for dollar for everything that they can claim they had
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: to take legal action to recover. Like, they couldn't talk
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: to that guy because he has things to say that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: are logical and reasonable and demonstrate an actual need for
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: men's rights movement, So instead they talk to the troll,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: because if you talk to the troll, you can make
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: the whole community look bad without lying about the community
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: at all. You just say that this guy is besides
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: saying that this guy's representative, which he's not. The Manisphere,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: she says, is a loose group of men who promote
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: misogyny and anti feminism online.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: I'll stop you there. There are women in the Manisphere.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, I.
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I know, according to like a million
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: people on Twitter, she's not a woman. But I can
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: confins well.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can make my voice.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: In person, but I've never confirmed biologically that she's a woman.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: But she looks pretty much like a woman to me.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Well, the guynocologist who delivered my son has confirmed that
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: I am in fact female. By the way, I'm old too.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not just any female. I'm old. My son this
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: year will turn the age that I was when I
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: gave birth to him, and I was. I was not
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: a young mother. I was old enough to have already.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: If I had decided to get a master's degree, I
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: would have had it by then. But I didn't. I
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: didn't drown myself in academia, which is why I'm not
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: brainwashed and I'm able to be here talking some sense.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: But yes, they promote misogyny and antifeminism. Notice the poisoning
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: the water again, Like they do this every time. Antifeminism
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: must be misogyny. The fact that feminists undermine women's success
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: by treating female accountability as a as a form of misogyny.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: So they are a detriment to women using one of
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: the most important tools in the toolbox for success, right,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: but opposing them as misogynies hate for women. You hate
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: women if you don't want to stop other women from
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: teaching them to be helpless and stupid. That's that's what
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: she's saying here. Then she goes on a lot of
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: them are in cells or involuntarily celibate men who are
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: frustrated at their own lack of romantic options. Her goal
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: here is to treat this as a means of attacking
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: every single problem a man can have. It's apparently illegitimate
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: that men are frustrated at their own lack of romantic options.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: But if women are in that situation, they're being mistreated.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: They called them for themselves, yea, and they get more
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: and they get more sympathy.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: The dumb thing is most most women have options, Like
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: there's it's for a woman to not have options. Well,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: let's just say this. In the population of disabled adults,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: there are almost no women who are single that don't
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: have somebody they call a boyfriend and that that that
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: agrees with her that he is actually the boyfriend or
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: a girlfriend. The ones that are single want to be single.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: I black build a whole discord about that as well. Yeah.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. In the population of adults with disabilities that are
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: profound enough that they need caregivers, however, there are numerous
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: males who want a partner and don't have one. This
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: is because even a woman who doesn't have the usual
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: things to contribute to a relationship that most women think
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: they need in order to be attractive can find a
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: man who wants to be with her. She has to
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: actively not want involvement to not find that. She doesn't
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: even have to look for involvement. She has to avoid
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: involvement to not be involved. A woman can be morbidly obese,
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: and she will still have a boyfriend if she wants to.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: She just has to recognize that she isn't going to
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: She isn't going to date a bodybuilder who values being healthy.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: You can always find You can always find a chubby chaser.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's true. That's true.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: It sort of goes both ways. There are some women
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: who have a bit of a fat, fatishan in men.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: That's not quite as common.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: But well, i'll tell you this, dad bods are the
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: sexiest type of bods. They are cuddly and still handsome.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: Don't listen to a gentleman.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Its it depends on They are the sexiest type of bods,
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: especially if they're the father of your child.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 3: Well well yeah, it kind of specifically if they if
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: they're the father of a child. And I think to
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 3: some degree, women like fat men. If if if those
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 3: women in question happen to have been the ones who
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: fed those men. Women like it when when they when
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: they feed a bunch of delicious food to a man,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: and that's how he gets fat. But a woman who's
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: never met you won't be particularly interested in your fat
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: because that means someone else has fed him. And and yeah,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 3: it goes both ways and in all kinds of ways.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: But let's not forget women have higher standards than that
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 3: than men do. And it's very much skewed hugely in
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: that direction. Like most I will go so far as
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: to say most women these days want the six six six.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: They want a six pack and a six vegas salary,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: and a and a and six inches and whatever the
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: other six is. Like, Like, a man can find a
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: woman who's into him, even if he's a dad bod,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: But your chances aren't as good as a man finding
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: a woman because he happens to like a bit of
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: chunk on whatever you.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: Like you have. You have men who are in cells,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: not because their standards are too high, but because literally
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: no woman has an interest in them. You have women
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: who call themselves in cells because they cannot find among
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: the men that that meet their standards a man who
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: takes an interest in them. But those same women will
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: complain about men that they're not interested in hitting on them.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: On the social ladder, if you look at look at
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: it as a thing, a real physical thing. Right, you
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: put that letter up and you say, maybe the bottom
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: rung on the social ladder is nerds, dweebs, geeks, people
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: who are socially adept, people who are unattractive, whatever, And
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: the next rung up is slightly socially adept nerdst weeves, geeks,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: people that are a little more capable of interacting with
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: other people. On a positive level, even if they're not
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: the best looking. And as you improve social aptitude and
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: physical appearance and all the contributing factors to building relationships
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: with other people, being able to find things in common
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: so on, you know, you get get closer to like
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: you get through the nerd community, and you get into
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: what we used to call preppies when I was in
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: high school, essentially upwardly mobile people. You might call them
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: yuppies in the eighties when they graduated high school and
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: got jobs and stuff like that. But at the bottom rung,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: you're not at the bottom of the social ladder. Beneath
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: the bottom rung there are two levels of basement, and
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: the first level of basement might be like somewhere between
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: one and ten percent female, where none of the people
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: on the social ladder would would give those people any consideration.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: The rest are men. They get ignored, they're invisible. If
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: they become visible, they're treated as though their presence is
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: an offense to the people around them. And if you're
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: in that if you're in that level, you generally go
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: through life keeping your head down right. You don't try
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: to make any kind of romantic connections with people unless
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: you're really sure that they've given you all the signs,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: and in some instances you just don't try, because nobody
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: ever does that. In many instances, right below that level
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: is another level, and it is all men, all boys
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: and men, there are no women. And those are the
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: guys that if they sit next to a female on
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: the bus, you know whether she's an adult or child.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: If they sit next to a female on the bus,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: somebody is going to treat it as an aggressive act.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: Those are the guys that if they go into a
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: restaurant and sit by themselves, they get kicked out. They're
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: missing something always that connects them with the whole rest
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: of humanity. And in cell men are in those two
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: bottom groups. Women who call themselves in cells can be
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: as high up as the bottom ring of the social ladder,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: and they will look around them and they will think
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: that they merit a better looking guy than they are,
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: and they will not consider the humanity of the men
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: around them and the character of the men around them.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: They'll fantasize about the bad boy who looks like I
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: don't know Han Solo, or the actor that plays Yochi
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: or the actor that plays Aragorn, but they won't consider
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: the guy that they work with or talk to every
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: day that has the same values that they have, likes
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: to do the same things that they like to do,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: and might even be more attractive than them. But isn't
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: that attractive? And they're not in cells because they can't
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: find a partner. They're in cells because their level of
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: picky is above their level of attractiveness. And it's partly
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: because a woman who doesn't have the characteristics that connect
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: with other people, a woman who is highly unattractive. Right,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: maybe she has one tooth left in her head and
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: it's broken. Maybe maybe her breath is bad, maybe she
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: has bad body odor, maybe she knows jack shit about hygiene.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: She can still find a guy who will sleep with her,
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: She can still find a guy who will make a
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: relationship with her, but she won't accept that guy if
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: she's in you know, in the mentality of the female
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: in cell, she thinks she deserves a tin, and her
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: idea of a tin isn't based on how has the
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: same values as me, has the same goals in life
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: as me, or is willing to mutually support each other's goals.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Is a kind person, is a caring person, is fun
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: to talk to, as a good sense of humor, none
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: of those things. It's you know, got I have that
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: washboard stomach, right, gotta have that sleepy eyed bad boy. Look,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: you gotta gotta be a little bit dangerous.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: That is not involuntary. That is an attitude, and it's
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: a wrong attitude. Right. The guys that usually uh you
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: hear about calling themselves in cells, they're not. They don't
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: have that same opportunity. They don't have women out there
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: that they're rejecting because I should be able to get
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: someone that's significantly more attractive than me, and I only
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: care about how she looks, don't care about how she
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: treats me. Right, That's not what's happening with them. Many
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: of them are involuntarily celibate because there is nobody that
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: will take an interest in them. There's a big difference.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: The term was invented by a woman who wanted to
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: whine about being temporarily temporarily without a dating partner.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: The reality for a lot of men is that they
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: go their whole lives without one, their whole lives birth
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: to death, go ahead.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: It was called in the film. It was called in
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 2: the film not in Cell was a spell I N yeah,
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: I n f E L in film.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: I n F L.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh wow, yeah, But then I don't know when
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: the time. It's always kind.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting because you know, women did try to
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: reclaim the term based on that it didn't work, right,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: and so now they just use it to hate on people.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: And you know, this isn't just a small group of
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: people either, right, You have to think about this the
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: other side of the coin of the calculation that eighty
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: percent of the women in the world are competing for
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: the top five to ten percent of men and ignoring
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: all of the other men.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: That's a that's an out, that's not out that it's
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: that what is it now now? Nineteen nine percent and
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: one percent?
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me. But even giving the generous you know,
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: eighty eighty percent, right, if those women are not considering
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: the other ninety percent of men in the world, that
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: means that that ninety percent is competing for the remaining
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: twenty percent. And you know, excluding the fact that in
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: some countries there are men who hoard wifs, hoard girlfriends, whatever,
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: hoard women, that that indicates that approximately seventy percent of
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: men are losing out. They don't have access to dating
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: and relationships. So even if you don't want to be
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: that generous, let's say, let's say there's a twenty percent
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: cushion in there, seventy down to fifty percent where sometimes
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: they they get to date, some of those women will
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: will sleep around with those guys, but they're still looking
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: to partner with the upper echelons. That's still half the
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: population and men in the world.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: And this is why. Else, this is why it's not
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: as counterintuitive as it sounds to say that Islam is
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: a feminist religion. I mean, after one hundred years of
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: being subjected to these feminist ideals that have brought women
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: to such high standards and men to such low standards,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: it sort of makes sense that well, already at this
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: point in the West, it's an understatement to say that
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: twenty five percent of men are competing for seventy five
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: percent of the women. So it's hardly surprising when you
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: look at the Middle East, in these Muslim countries where
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: men are allowed four wives, that twenty five percent of
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 3: the men are married to seventy five percent of the women.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's only when you call it marriage that
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: there is even a delineation between these things. At this
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: point in the West, with all this hookup culture and
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: hit you can uncontroversially say that twenty five percent of
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: the women are hooking up with the seventy No, seventy
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 3: five percent of the women are hooking up with twenty
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: five percent of the men. And that is a low estimate,
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 3: like like Richard said, is probably more like ten. And
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: of the women, it's probably it's it's at least approaching
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: one to ninety nine. And as long as when addressing
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: that problem, it's only going to get worse ten years
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 3: from now, it's going to be zero point one to
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 3: ninety nine nine.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's headen that way.
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is all right. So you have
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: this situation where again, even if we're generous, if we're
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: extremely generous, a full fifty percent of the male population
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: never never has a date, and seventy percent never gets
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: to settle down right, not fully. That's that's before we
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 1: get into the divorce rate in some countries. What do
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: we do with all those extra men? The answer is
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: that the establishment uses them as fodder for war. Those
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: are the men who get roped one way or another
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: by hook or by crook, by draft or by scam
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: into fighting and dying in those wars. And it depends
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: on the nation. You know, it might be completely sanctioned
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: by the local establishment. It might be the thing that
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: the local establishment uses university incentives and job training incentives
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: and prestige and incentives and so on to persuade these
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: young men to get involved in and do right, or
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: draft them into it. Or in some countries, it's where
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: terrorist organizations take you into a beautiful garden and fill
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: you full of hashish and make promises about seventy two
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: version version virgins while you're high as fuck and can't
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: account for yourself and UH and get you to pledge
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: your loyalty to to their organization and start planning to
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: be a suicide bomber or cut people's heads off or
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 1: everything else that happens UH in in UH Islamic warfare.
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 1: It might be that your local gang in your neighborhood
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: where drugs are sold and people's houses are getting broken into,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: drive by shootings are happening and so on, they rope
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: you in. Well, you know, you can't get laid as
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: just a regular guy on the street, because you know
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: who wants to be with just a regular guy on
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: the street. But if I make a boss out of you,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: if I make a pimp out of you, if you
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 1: make a lot of money selling this shit, you know,
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: if you make make make yourself well known for being
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: a dangerous man, you might have a better chance. That's
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: that's where they end up. They end up as the
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: the bottom rung of the work ladder, the the the
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: dirt under the feet of the leadership of the establishment
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: or the underworld, and they die in in large numbers
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: in violent circumstances. As a result. There is no equivalent
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: for women. None. And that's that's not even considering the
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: number that off themselves because they are depressed or desperate
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: to get out of that situation. And Shadow Will f
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: eighty seven says, desperate men make good foot soldiers. Well,
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: they're more willing to be foot soldiers than men who
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: have everything going for them.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, so she's poisoning the water with regard
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: to voluntarily celibate men. Oh, they're just frustrated with their
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: own lack of romantic options. No, they're usually trampled under
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: the feet of society in general. Some have traditional views
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: of masculinity believing women should stay at home or be
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: stay at home mothers and have a duty to have babies.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: Others would rather shun women completely. So there's the only
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned men going their own way debts. They're more scared
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: of men they can't boss around than anything. If they
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: can't have power over a man because he's not interested,
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's given up on women. That
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: is scared to them, even than men who, like in cells,
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 1: are actually notoriously ginocentric to a degree. And if you
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 1: talk to them, they want relationships, They want to be
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 1: close to women. They want to be recognized as potential partners.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: Make taw have have basically given them, given women the finger,
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: turned their backs and walked away. And if you talk
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: to them, you better be ready to be told no,
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk to you. I don't want
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 1: to be alone with you. I don't care what your
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: opinion is, and I don't care if I offend you.
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: You're not important to me and you don't deserve my attention.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: If you can't handle that, then as a woman, you
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: shouldn't talk to them. They don't want you to. They
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: don't want you getting involved in their shit. So leave
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: them alone. But feminists are terrified of men going their
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: own way.
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  Speaker 3: Far more terrified than they are about pick up artists
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 3: like he shall not be named Fine, and you take
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: this is this is why they're teaching like school pupils
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 3: to be terrified of Andrew Jay. But they're not teaching
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 3: them about any prominent meg toales. They can't think of
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 3: any prominent make toales. They're not interested in any prominent
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: maketows because meg tows scare them far more than p
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 3: u A's ever will, because at least p UA's p
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: u A's are I'm gonna pre have what you're saying, Richard,
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: p Uas are only interested in pushing men into guyandocentrism.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 3: They're pushing men into this is how you please women,
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 3: Even if it's like how you please a different women
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 3: every day, that's still better than going off and doing
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 3: your own thing, because there's nothing Because there's nothing that
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: scares women more than men going off and doing their
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 3: own thing. They fucking they get wetter than an ottist pocket.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 3: The idea of a man teaching men how to please women,
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 3: even if it's just temporarily pleasing women. They because they
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 3: want the tournament species. They want ninety percent of women
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 3: to crowd around ten percent of men, the ten percent
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 3: of men who can give them all the resources, even
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: if those men ostensibly hate women, even though they fucking don't,
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 3: because they because they want those men want to give
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 3: women all their attention and all their resources, even if
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 3: they divide those resources between hundreds of women. They they
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 3: they would rather have one percent of a rich man
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 3: than of a poor man. That's that, that's what's going on,
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 3: and and and that's why they're so scared of Makedail,
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 3: because Mikedail will give them zero percent of what they have,
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 3: and that they can't handle that. What the idea of
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 3: a man who gives women nothing is infinitely literally, i
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 3: mean mathematically, infinitely worse than that than a man who
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 3: would give them anything.
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: Right, Yep, they can't use him, they can't exploit him,
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: they can't control him, and they can't they can't take
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: anything from him. Then they can't. They don't even have
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 1: an easy time punishing him, you know, for that because
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 1: if he is uh is he, if he's like most
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: men going their own way, he has protected himself as
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: best he could against false allegations. He's very careful to
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: avoid circumstances and actions that make him vulnerable to them.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: So they don't even have that, So they just don't.
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: They don't talk about men going their own way. When
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 1: they do, they make shut up, but they really don't.
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 1: Most of the time. They just ignore that whole segment
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 1: of the manisphere. But she goes on and we'll we'll
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: finish up with this paragraph right here, and then we'll
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: continue this. Are you available again next week? Richard? Are
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: you there, Richard?
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just have to me yeah, all of the
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: Awesome. Then we will continue this next week. This is
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: actually a really long article too.
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: But I can I can tell I can tell the
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 2: story about my taking I could tell the story about
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: my mom taking more money.
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, talk well, well, talk to some people that are
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: close to you before you do that. But I'll explain
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: more after the show. But definitely, Uh, if if it's
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: okay once you know, once you've talked to people that
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: are close to you and you're and you're still interested
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 1: in sharing more information about that, then that sounds like
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: a good plan. But uh, last paragraph for the Night Online.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: They soak in their victimhood and rage in anyone who disagrees.
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: It sounds like projection to me, but sometimes it spills
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: out into real life in violent ways. In England and Wales,
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 1: two point three million people each year, around one twenty
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: adults commits violence against women and girls. So this was
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: this was written in twenty four so she already knows
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: about the the aspect of that that the guys from
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: the UK can't talk about. She already knows about the
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: rape gangs. She already knows about the culture clash. But
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: she's not going to mention that. She's going to blame
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 1: it on people on the internet. And I'm the only
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 1: one I think that that is able to say anything
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: about that, because I think the two of you actually
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 1: would go to jail if you say anything.
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 3: The rape gangs. How very dare you? It's all white
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 3: men doing it? Shut up?
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 2: It have happened?
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Should that ever happened? Hashtag? The bad thing about
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: it is that that, besides the actual crime itself, is
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 1: that it's been mostly women like this one protecting those
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 1: gangs who targeted underage kids. And now that we're hearing
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: about it, we're hearing about what they did to girls.
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: But the research that I've done on it so far,
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: there were boys who were victims as well, and there
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: were occasional stories that came out, like the the guy.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: That was laid off in I've been telling people, oh,
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: If you're if you've.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 2: Been telling people that. I've been telling people that like
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: for ages, but no, really believe me.
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a if you.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 3: Think Fstein Island only supplied people with girls, must to
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 3: fill you in about for one of the better phrase.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 3: But yeah, given that they had the likes of Peter
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 3: Mandelssohn in there, Yeah, no, they they they had they
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 3: had boys, boys young enough to represent girls.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: You know, all the creepy paintings that they have up
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: have both children and both sexes in them. I don't
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 1: believe that their activities were any different.
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 3: But yeah, no one gives a shit about male victims.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: Maybe twenty years from now we can finally get into saying,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 3: do you know all those dudes were raping boys as well?
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 3: But we can't. It's not that's that's a long time off. Well,
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 3: we'll concentrate on girls they raped first.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: See if see if, see if see Afghanistan for that.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 1: And I want to point out the United States military
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: knew about that. There were sort of that came back
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: and disclosed that they were told not to talk about
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: it and not to do anything about it because they
• 2:12:07
  Speaker 1: were working with the Afghan soldiers that were committing the
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 1: acts of terror on these kids.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 3: Are you raping people? No, it's fine, we're running raping boys.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, okay, well carry.
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: On, yeah, because it's a sin if it's a girl,
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: but it's it's okay if if it's a boy, and
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: if he complains, then he's gay and they'll they'll throw
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: him off of a building or behead him. That's that's
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: essentially the way that was. But in the UK there
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: was a guy, I believe it was one of the
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: northernmost parts that that went after a boy in a
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: swimming pool and if I remember, he assaulted the kid.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: I don't remember whether there was penetration, whether it was
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 1: considered rape or other another type of sexual assault. But
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 1: in his hearing he argued that it was a sexual
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: emergency and also that he didn't know he wasn't allowed
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: to do that in this country and they let him off.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 3: Well, it's not a sexual emergency, doesn't It doesn't count
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 3: as rape if you do it to a boy. Well,
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 3: I guess it's a sticky area for one of a
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 3: better phrase. If a man does it to a man,
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: but if a woman does it to a man or
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 3: a boy, it's literally not rape.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: So I have a penis.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: I guess maybe if you identify as a woman then
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: that doesn't Oh my god, I just opened up a
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: kind of worm want to think about.
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: So that there were incidences like that that made the news,
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 1: there's a lot more of them that didn't really get
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 1: reported on, but you'd hear about them from people that
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: this happened in their neighborhood or that happened in their community,
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: and they knew about it and they could tell you
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: about it, but the media is not reporting on it
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: because it wasn't a girl. Yeah, the night Scotsman. I've
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: gotten kind of used to speaking about things that are
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 1: downright stomach turning. I've been doing this for a long time,
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: and my first activism was on the subject of abortion,
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: which in and of itself, there's not really anything about
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: that subject that isn't stomach turning. Like to the degree
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: that I've sat and described all of the different styles
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: and types of abortion to somebody to get across the
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: point that it's not just tissue and it's not like
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: clipping your fingernails. And I started doing that. I started
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: looking into that and engaging in activism at the age
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: of thirteen. So it's not it's not difficult for me.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: I'm able to do that because of that, and and
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: I've also had a few experiences. It takes a while
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: to be able to talk about that stuff without, you know,
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: sounding horrified. But yeah, there's a reason to be sarcastic. Sarcasm.
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: The sarcasm is a tool, a cutting tool that is
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: used to stab basically at the subject, not the victims,
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: but the people who condone it. When women in particular
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 1: condone violence, that they would abhor if it was happening
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 1: to them. But since it's not, they condone it, they
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: deserve to be stabbed with sarcasm. And yeah, seniors, don't
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: get me started on abortion. We'll be here all night.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: But yeah, depending on the development of the baby the
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: gestational age, abortion can be anything from a simple act
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: of flushing or sucking out the the barely formed baby
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: to a brutal act involving salt poisoning and dismemberment, and
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: it can be varying levels of dangerous to the to
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: the mother as well, and you don't want to hear it.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if I can describe it all
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: on YouTube without getting flagged. If I was a doctor
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: and I was explaining it in clinical terms, I could,
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't. I don't think that we would
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: not get in trouble for that. I do recommend that
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: you avoid looking up any any information that would be illustrated,
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: because the images are gore. It's it is straight up gore.
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: If you look at what that is, it is it
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: is horrific, and you'll never be able to argue probortion
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: side of an argument again after that.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 3: I am a doctor, and you'll notice I stopped talking
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 3: about circumcision a long time ago because I was I
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: just couldn't handle it anymore because the people I was
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 3: arguing with just ignored the biological procedure that went along
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 3: with it, and they were just like, it's fine. And
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 3: I could never quite gauge where they were coming from.
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 3: They were just like, no, it's fine that we generously
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 3: torture babies because we've always been doing it, and it's
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: it's It's much the same argument with abortion. It's fine
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 3: because we've been doing it for so long. Why would
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: we Why would we be doing something for so long
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 3: if it wasn't a good idea.
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: I was against looking at watched circumcisions or immediate immediate
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 1: post circumcision, appearance after and and even the difference between
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: a botched and a not batched circumcision. Don't. Don't even
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: look that up, because again it is straight up gore.
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 3: Ironically, what I just described was conservativism, the idea that
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: we've been doing it for so long, and therefore it's
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 3: it must be a good idea, so we have to
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 3: conserve what we've always been doing. Well, this is what
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 3: I want to say to people who ostensibly call themselves progressivists.
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 3: You're not advocating for something progressive. You're you're advocating for
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 3: something conservative. It's been done for so long, I mean,
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: especially circumcision. When it comes to the Jews and the Muslims,
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 3: they've been doing this for thousands of years, and because
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 3: we've been doing it for so long, it must be
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: a good thing, because we haven't all died out. Yeah,
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 3: that's that's That's what the Aztecs would say about the
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 3: fucking people that were beheading on the top of the
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 3: pyramid and then rolling their heads down the fucking side
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 3: of it. But then they eventually fucking died out, And
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 3: uh does that come of anything? But yeah, at the
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 3: same time, we've been chopping off boys the end of
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 3: boys penises for the longest time, and we still haven't
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 3: died Okay, well, look how long Muslims have been circumcising
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: girls for this long and they still haven't died out?
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 3: Now it's yeah, it's because they're doing the bare minimum
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 3: that you can do while they can still reproduce, and
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 3: and they're still reproducing, So what's the problem with that?
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 3: Just you could you could cut off a child's ears,
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: both of them. They'll still be able to hear, so
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 3: what's the problem. You can you could gouge out both
• 2:20:20
  Speaker 3: eyes of a child at birth. They won't be able
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: to see, but they can still live. They'll just be blind.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: You could amputate every part of human beings body and
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 3: technically they'll still be able to live. But for how long? Yeah,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 3: ask the Aztecs how long they were able to survive
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 3: fucking chopping people? Says off and ship, you know.
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: You can actually survive getting your stomach removed.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 3: And and and and yeah. This this, this is where
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 3: traditionalism and progressivism should actually come together in in in
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 3: something resembling medium. Like some traditions exist because they have
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 3: a track record, but some traditions are just bullshit that
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 3: have been going on because but because they happen to
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 3: have existed, And and some progressivism it only exists because
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 3: because people want change for the sake of change, and
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 3: that that that doesn't have a track record at all.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 3: By the way, you don't do you don't do any
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 3: change just for the sake of change.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's reasonable to say, because we've been doing
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: this for a long time, is neither a rational reason
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 1: to keep doing something when there is evidence that it
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: should be stopped, or to stop doing something when there
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: is no evidence that other evidence.
• 2:21:53
  Speaker 3: And this becomes this becomes particularly fucked up when we're
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: still doing a tradition and we're still call it progressive,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 3: like feminism. We've only been doing it for a hundred years,
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 3: but but people keep saying, well, we've been doing this
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 3: for a hundred years and it hasn't killed us yet,
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 3: and and so let's keep doing it. Yeah, No, one
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 3: hundred years is nothing like one hundred years is only
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 3: half of what it takes, only most of what it
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: takes to fucking kill a species. Like either of these avenues,
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 3: it can be a way to destroy society. But to
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 3: call it one thing and then to call it another thing,
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: to like introduce something out of left field, so to speak,
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 3: and then to say that we've always been doing this, like, yeah,
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 3: that's the fastest way to kill a civilization, Like let's
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 3: let's let's do this because we've never done this, And
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 3: then and then that's fame. We're doing this because we've
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 3: always been doing this. Yeah, that's uh, that's that's the
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 3: stuff of the devil, and that's that's the quickest way
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 3: to kill everyone as fast as possible. So let's not
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: do that. Let's maybe not doing that, listen, gentlemen.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: In the meantime, well that yeah, See she goes on.
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 1: She doesn't talk about any of the things that have
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 1: happened to men and boys. She doesn't talk about who's
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: committing the violent crimes against women and girls that she's
• 2:23:38
  Speaker 1: talking about. She just gives a few examples that out
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 1: of context. An example like that out of context is
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: essentially just an emotional peal, not because the crime itself
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't bad. But because she's not giving you any reason
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: why that's connected to what she said before, or why
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 1: it's evidence of anything to do with the people that
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 1: she's trying to condemn. She's mentioning that one in twenty
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 1: adults commits violent act against women and girls, but she's
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: not providing a chain of connection to demonstrate that. It's
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 1: because there are men on Reddit talking about custody issues
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: and due process rights. But she goes on This summer,
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 1: a man has been charged with the slaughter with slaughtering
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend, her mother and sister with a crossbow. Charged.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: We don't that's not the same as conviction. By the way,
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: three little girls were killed and ten others stabbed at
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  Speaker 1: a Taylor Swift themed dance. A female care worker was
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  Speaker 1: killed in a knife attack in Greater Manchester and eleven
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  Speaker 1: year old girls put in an ad luck in like is
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  Speaker 1: that likester lester lester square and stabbed eight times. Don't
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: let me tell you that English is my first language.
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  Speaker 1: Police believe the man accused of the crime had never
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  Speaker 1: met her, a care worker. By the way, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I do. That's in the UK, I will be called
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  Speaker 1: a terror which I think is a better title. Here
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  Speaker 1: in the US, I'm called a direct support professional, which
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  Speaker 1: is pretentious as fuck and I hate it. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: still going to do the job because I like that part.
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 1: But then she follows that up with but today radicalization
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  Speaker 1: begins on the internet. I wanted to meet in real
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  Speaker 1: life the men who post misogyny online to understand their hatred.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: And next week we will start with this paragraph about Alex,
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  Speaker 1: who again does not at all look to me to
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  Speaker 1: be typical of the posters of the men's rights subreddit.
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  Speaker 1: But it looks like she went outside of that subreddit
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  Speaker 1: to look for men to represent the subreddit. So clearly
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  Speaker 1: this this woman is, you know, one of the honest
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  Speaker 1: establishment media. We did have one super chow Meredith g
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  Speaker 1: gave us five dollars, said, HBr talk three eighty nine,
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  Speaker 1: honey for the Badgers. We did not have any super
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  Speaker 1: chats that I saw. I hope I didn't miss any here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna scroll back really quick, and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't see any super chats. So we didn't
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 1: get any super chats or any paid rumble rants. So
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  Speaker 1: there isn't anything else that I need to read off,
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  Speaker 1: but I will say uh ba kazoo in the uh
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  Speaker 1: normally the special chat but the special crowd hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: here pointed out that to the attacker, one of the
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: attackers from one of the stories I mentioned was an immigrant,
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 1: a foreigner. That doesn't surprise me, probably all of them, right,
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  Speaker 1: man of unspecified ethnicity, because she can't say that it's
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: one of the people labeled refugees that had been committing crimes.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I know people in government in the
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 1: UK are dumb, but they can't possibly fail to notice
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: that the information that they're trying to deny to their
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: own people has spread around the world and we're all
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 1: aware of it. We can all see it happening. And
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: they're not fooling anyone, just saying I.
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  Speaker 3: Only wish they would fooling anyone. But they're fooling a
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  Speaker 3: whole funk fucking bunch of people.
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  Speaker 1: They're fooling the people they can can can hide information
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  Speaker 1: from by controlling the availability of that information. They don't
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: control the availability of information here in the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you all have access to X. Yep, some
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 3: of you have access to X. There are as many
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 3: people in the United States who have access to xan
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 3: than there are people in the UK in general. And
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 3: because there's an Yeah, and because there's the contingency of
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 3: people in the UK who don't look at x because
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: the TV has as showed them that it's full of
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of right wing, right wing racists. Those people
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  Speaker 3: just keep watching the BBC assuming that they're being told
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  Speaker 3: the truth, the whole the trath.
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also the uh, the fact that if people
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: from the UK talk about what's going on in the UK,
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: they get arrested. Yeah, whereas they're not gonna come here
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: and arrest me, They're not even going to try. If
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: they did try, it would be a fuck around and
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: find out moment and I wouldn't even have to make it.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: So with that said, thanks everybody for listening. Thanks to
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  Speaker 1: all of my co hosts for talking about this uncomfortable
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 1: subject with me. Uh, not that in cells are uncomfortable,
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  Speaker 1: but that the people's social attitudes toward them and the
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: way that the media lies about them is fucking uncomfortable.
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: Pisses me off. And uh, thanks everybody who works in
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: the background make HBr talk happen, especially Brian, who is
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: again doing pretty much all of the background work at
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  Speaker 1: this point, good I al.