Latest / Chuck Douglas / Eric Delbert and 21 month old fatally shoots himself
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Greeting salutations, Welcome, my friends to another edition of The
- 0:03Speaker 1: Power Hour on six ten WTV, and I'm Chuck Douglas.
- 0:06Speaker 1: You know who you are, and we take it from there.
- 0:08Speaker 1: We get one hour together, which means I talk really
- 0:10Speaker 1: fast and you must listen even faster. My number eight
- 0:13Speaker 1: two one nine, eight eighty six eight two one WTV
- 0:15Speaker 1: and or one eight hundred and six to ten dou WTV.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And I did not talk about this story during Blazer
- 0:22Speaker 1: Show because it's it's I've been stewing on this, stewing
- 0:26Speaker 1: on this since last night. I'm talking about this baby
- 0:31Speaker 1: that is no longer here, that is no longer alive,
- 0:35Speaker 1: twenty one months old. His name was Jashn Butler. And
- 0:45Speaker 1: first of all, I will say this, if the father's
- 0:51Speaker 1: story or this man's story, I don't know which way
- 0:57Speaker 1: to refer to him. If it is truthful, he's too
- 1:05Speaker 1: stupid on a firearm. I doubt that it is truthful.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Quite frankly, I would not be surprised to find that
- 1:20Speaker 1: there was nothing accidental about this at all. And I've
- 1:26Speaker 1: got nothing to go on except instinct. Court records that
- 1:33Speaker 1: were obtained by the folks over at ABC six said
- 1:36Speaker 1: that this man de Shan. Butler said he and his
- 1:40Speaker 1: son were in his bedroom upstairs alone and he went
- 1:46Speaker 1: to secure the gun in a safe. I doubt it,
- 1:50Speaker 1: He told detectives. He was distracted by his toddler's mischief
- 1:56Speaker 1: and stepped away without realizing. He didn't close the safe
- 2:00Speaker 1: door all the way. Anybody who has a gun safe
- 2:09Speaker 1: has it for a reason. And when it closes and latches,
- 2:16Speaker 1: you know, when it does not close and latch, you know.
- 2:26Speaker 1: The story continues. Moments later, he said he heard a
- 2:30Speaker 1: gunshot rang out should be ring out, and found as
- 2:35Speaker 1: toddler had shot himself. His twenty one month old toddler
- 2:42Speaker 1: had shot himself. Club's police said. Butler fled the scene
- 2:48Speaker 1: as all innocent people do, later turned himself into club's
- 2:54Speaker 1: police headquarters for outstanding warrants hours later. Been charged at
- 3:01Speaker 1: this point with felony child in endangering. However, November twenty
- 3:09Speaker 1: twenty one, court document said Butler punched his girlfriend, choked her,
- 3:15Speaker 1: pulled her into a car when she tried to run away.
- 3:19Speaker 1: The girlfriend told detectives at that time he threatened to
- 3:22Speaker 1: kill her. Seven months later, May twenty twenty two, court
- 3:27Speaker 1: document said Butler chased the same girlfriend outside the residence
- 3:30Speaker 1: to the parking lot, where he tackled her to the pavement,
- 3:34Speaker 1: punched her in the face and head six times with
- 3:38Speaker 1: a closed fist. Documents say that Butler got behind her,
- 3:43Speaker 1: put a gun to her neck, and told her that
- 3:47Speaker 1: she'd better listen or he would kill her. Three months
- 3:54Speaker 1: after that, August twenty twenty two, alleging Butler attacked his
- 4:00Speaker 1: ex girlfriend, pointing a gun to her face, forcing his
- 4:03Speaker 1: way into her home before punching her to the ground
- 4:05Speaker 1: and putting his foot on her face. February twenty twenty five,
- 4:12Speaker 1: court documents said he threatened to break his other son's
- 4:15Speaker 1: jaw by punching him in the face. Document said the
- 4:21Speaker 1: child was assigned to live with another family member by
- 4:24Speaker 1: Franklin County Children's Services. Channel six did ask Franklin County
- 4:30Speaker 1: Children's Services how many children were in Butler's care at
- 4:32Speaker 1: the time of Jashawn's death and what contact the agency
- 4:36Speaker 1: had with the family. Spokesperson for the agency said Franklin
- 4:40Speaker 1: County Children's Services was not actively working with the family
- 4:44Speaker 1: at the time of this incident. Why Why has this
- 4:48Speaker 1: guy not demonstrated a track record of violence? Why was
- 4:54Speaker 1: he out? Why wasn't he in jail? How many times
- 4:59Speaker 1: do you have to beat somebody up, point a gun
- 5:01Speaker 1: at them, threatened to kill them before you go to jail.
- 5:09Speaker 1: He shouldn't have been out, he should have been behind bars.
- 5:15Speaker 1: He should not have been in possession of a gun period.
- 5:22Speaker 1: And after his violent history, I go back to where
- 5:28Speaker 1: I started. I will not be surprised to find out
- 5:30Speaker 1: that there was no accident to this at all. I'm mad, Yes,
- 5:35Speaker 1: I am, because a twenty one month old child is
- 5:42Speaker 1: no longer with us. Don't know a thing about that child,
- 5:47Speaker 1: don't know a thing about his mom, don't know what
- 5:50Speaker 1: kind of life he would have led, what kind of
- 5:51Speaker 1: future he would have had, And now no one ever
- 5:55Speaker 1: will know that. One of the the television news people
- 6:02Speaker 1: in this city felt the need to follow up the
- 6:07Speaker 1: uh facts of this story was some imaginary facts of
- 6:12Speaker 1: their own, one of which cited gun violence as being
- 6:19Speaker 1: the number one killer of teenagers. Except they use the
- 6:31Speaker 1: word children. I use the word teenagers because in those numbers,
- 6:37Speaker 1: what they are counting are eighteen to nineteen year olds.
- 6:43Speaker 1: If you're speaking specifically of minors thirteen to seventeen, The
- 6:48Speaker 1: number one cause of death is auto accidents. But they
- 6:54Speaker 1: get out on the street, they decide to play gangster,
- 6:59Speaker 1: and this is the fate that awaits them. So it
- 7:03Speaker 1: goes up. That number goes up. I heard one of
- 7:09Speaker 1: the UH, one of the talking heads today actually sounding
- 7:17Speaker 1: very sympathetic toward this man, this grieving father, till somebody
- 7:24Speaker 1: proves me wrong. There's no room for grief for him,
- 7:29Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. Eric Delbert up at LPD
- 7:34Speaker 1: Firearms and Range. He put al YouTube video outs about
- 7:37Speaker 1: three minutes long. I'll put that up on my Facebook
- 7:40Speaker 1: page when I get off the air tonight. But just
- 7:44Speaker 1: you know his thoughts, his commentary as both a gun
- 7:47Speaker 1: dealer and a law enforcement officer, and they don't differ
- 7:52Speaker 1: significantly from what I'm telling you. If people who break
- 8:01Speaker 1: the law actually paid a price for breaking the law,
- 8:11Speaker 1: a twenty one month old child would still be alive today.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Had this man gone to jail for beating, threatening pointing guns,
- 8:26Speaker 1: had he been behind bars, that child would still be alive.
- 8:38Speaker 1: It is disheartening enough to watch them grow up and
- 8:42Speaker 1: become teenagers and go out into the streets and act
- 8:44Speaker 1: like they know everything and get themselves involved in situations
- 8:47Speaker 1: they are not even close to being ready for, and
- 8:52Speaker 1: seeing them pay a price, sometimes a hefty price, for
- 8:57Speaker 1: doing the wrong thing, concerting with the wrong people, having
- 9:01Speaker 1: the wrong image, being in the wrong place the wrong time.
- 9:05Speaker 1: That's bad enough, but to lose them before their second
- 9:11Speaker 1: birthday unacceptable. Of course, all of the government and prosecutorial
- 9:17Speaker 1: fingers will point at this guy, as they should. But
- 9:22Speaker 1: as the old saying goes, when you point one finger
- 9:24Speaker 1: at me, four more pointing back at you. Had the
- 9:31Speaker 1: system done its job, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be
- 9:40Speaker 1: thinking what I'm thinking. I wouldn't be feeling what I'm
- 9:42Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad right now the way that I am,
- 9:50Speaker 1: because the twenty one month old child would still be alive.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Break the law, pay a price. When you were allowed
- 10:04Speaker 1: to continue doing what you're doing, threatening and pointing guns
- 10:08Speaker 1: and choking and beating down and nobody stops you from
- 10:14Speaker 1: being out here doing that, then some of this crap
- 10:21Speaker 1: is your fault too, or maybe that's just me A
- 10:25Speaker 1: two number E two WTV and I mentioned Eric Delbert
- 10:29Speaker 1: in his video a little while ago, and he's actually
- 10:31Speaker 1: calling in right now. Eric Delbert from LPD Firearms and range.
- 10:34Speaker 1: As I was saying earlier, your video and my feelings
- 10:37Speaker 1: are are pretty much hand.
- 10:39Speaker 2: In hand one hundred percent, Chuck, and thanks for giving
- 10:42Speaker 2: attention to this today. I know you were as fired
- 10:45Speaker 2: up as I was on this. It keeps continuing and continuing,
- 10:50Speaker 2: and so we got to keep putting the message out
- 10:53Speaker 2: there at about some of these falses. They continue to
- 10:57Speaker 2: put out the.
- 10:59Speaker 1: Idea and the statistics. You had those statistics earlier with
- 11:03Speaker 1: the you know, the number one calls of death because
- 11:06Speaker 1: they're not counting juvenile teams. They're adding the eighteen and
- 11:09Speaker 1: nineteen year olds in there that go out into the world,
- 11:11Speaker 1: mess up, get themselves involved with the wrong plate, people
- 11:13Speaker 1: doing the wrong stuff. Suddenly the gun deaths go up.
- 11:17Speaker 1: But if you're talking about minors seventeen to thirteen, gun
- 11:20Speaker 1: violence is not the number one calls of death.
- 11:24Speaker 2: No, but that doesn't fit the narrative. You can't stand
- 11:27Speaker 2: up and say gun violence is the number one cause
- 11:30Speaker 2: of death amongst our children when you take those other
- 11:34Speaker 2: ones out, and it's just when you look at these
- 11:37Speaker 2: studies and when I heard that on the news again,
- 11:40Speaker 2: I know we've talked about it on our show. It's
- 11:42Speaker 2: such a false study when you look at the details
- 11:45Speaker 2: of it, is not genuine in how they report it.
- 11:50Speaker 2: But man, for those who don't know, it's easy to say,
- 11:53Speaker 2: look at this guns and guns again are the problem
- 11:56Speaker 2: causing the death of our kids.
- 11:57Speaker 1: I know that you know, you've got some insight information
- 12:00Speaker 1: your other officers and so forth. I go back to
- 12:03Speaker 1: the original question, why the hell was this guy not
- 12:05Speaker 1: behind bars for all the other violence, for the beatings,
- 12:08Speaker 1: for the pointing guns, for the threats. Why was he
- 12:11Speaker 1: not behind bars where he could not hurt or allow
- 12:14Speaker 1: to be hurt this little boy?
- 12:16Speaker 2: And Chuck, you're exactly right, and I'm not sure if
- 12:17Speaker 2: you hit it or not, but did you pick up
- 12:20Speaker 2: on I believe this individual had a case bound over
- 12:25Speaker 2: when he was a juvenile to adult court, and that
- 12:29Speaker 2: case he ended up pleading guilty to an F one
- 12:33Speaker 2: aggravated felony age robbery with a gun speck. Then he
- 12:39Speaker 2: knew to him then.
- 12:40Speaker 1: He legally not only should he not ethically have had
- 12:43Speaker 1: a gun, he legally should not have been in possession
- 12:45Speaker 1: of a gun.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Not even in possession of guns or ammunition.
- 12:52Speaker 1: I just I don't know what to say, and I mean,
- 12:54Speaker 1: you know, as I said earlier, the prosecutors are gonna
- 12:57Speaker 1: they're they're going to go after him, hopefully and and
- 13:00Speaker 1: point at him and say guilty, guilty, guilty, yuilty. But
- 13:04Speaker 1: there's a lot of prosecutorial dropped balls here that could
- 13:07Speaker 1: have kept this from happening in the first place.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And Chuck, I hope that they charge him for the
- 13:11Speaker 2: gun specification in this too, him being in possession of
- 13:14Speaker 2: a firearm. He admitted he was in possession of it,
- 13:17Speaker 2: the full force of the law could come down upon him.
- 13:21Speaker 2: They should charge him federally for that. So it mandates
- 13:24Speaker 2: some time behind prison.
- 13:26Speaker 1: And you know as well as I do, I said
- 13:27Speaker 1: this too. You've got a gun and a safe. When
- 13:31Speaker 1: you close the gun safe, you know, it's like putting
- 13:34Speaker 1: on your seat belt in the car. You know when
- 13:37Speaker 1: it latches and when it does not. If you don't,
- 13:39Speaker 1: you're too stupid to own a gun. It's obvious. So
- 13:42Speaker 1: his story falls apart from the very beginning for me,
- 13:46Speaker 1: one d per.
- 13:47Speaker 2: And just as you said, an innocent person doesn't run away, well, yes.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Yeah, that you don't have to take off what is
- 13:54Speaker 1: your YouTube channel? Because I talked about that video before
- 13:57Speaker 1: I post it maybe somebody who's on YouTube right now
- 13:59Speaker 1: can look at where is that?
- 14:01Speaker 2: Sure just under l EPD Firearms and Rains. It's out
- 14:04Speaker 2: there under I think it is the I forget what
- 14:08Speaker 2: channel within that, but you can find it because it
- 14:10Speaker 2: was the most recent posting. But it's also on our
- 14:12Speaker 2: Facebook page, so it goes right to that as well,
- 14:15Speaker 2: on our Facebook page LPD Firearms and Range.
- 14:17Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll keep an eye on this. I
- 14:18Speaker 1: may be calling on you in the future to grape
- 14:20Speaker 1: with me some more, depending on how they handle it.
- 14:22Speaker 2: All right, Thank you Chuck though, for putting the attention
- 14:25Speaker 2: to this that that it deserves.
- 14:26Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Eric, thank you